Making Waves

Sardis - Lidia Romashick

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00:01 Wake up, wake up, wake up, it's a call that Lidia heard.
00:05 Find out how in just a moment.
00:50 The seven cities to whom the Apostle John wrote
00:52 his well known letters from the Island of Patmos
00:55 were in western Asia Minor.
00:57 Two of them Sardis and Pergamum
01:00 have been formally been capitals of powerful kingdoms
01:03 still possess great political prominence in the time of John.
01:08 The whole area in which the seven churches
01:10 of Revelation were found
01:12 it is rich in historical memories
01:14 of the early Christian period
01:16 and played a great role in ancient history.
01:20 Sardis's thought to have been found it
01:22 around the second millennium B.C.
01:24 At that time it was apparently
01:26 the capital of the small principality
01:28 situated on the border of the Hittite nation.
01:33 During the seventh and sixth centuries B.C.
01:36 the powerful Lydian kingdom
01:38 which ruled over more than half of Asia Minor
01:41 had its capital at Sardis.
01:45 In the second century B.C. it was taken over by Rome.
01:48 For more than four centuries Rome administered
01:51 the area as the province of Asia.
01:54 In 17 A.D. it was destroyed by an earthquake,
01:57 but it was always rebuilt.
02:00 It was one of the great cities of western Asia Minor
02:03 until the later Byzantine period.
02:08 Over my left was the main thoroughfare,
02:11 the main road for Sardis.
02:13 This is all side walk area.
02:15 Matter of fact, imagine if you can kick out
02:17 some of the dirt in this area,
02:18 there would be a lot more marble revealed.
02:21 But up and down this whole thoroughfare were shops,
02:26 possibly the food shops, the little restaurants,
02:30 the various things that people sell their wares
02:32 come from the country, the farms
02:34 and sell their fruits and vegetables,
02:36 maybe even their hand knit rugs
02:38 and all the other wonderful things
02:39 that Turkey is actually known for.
02:43 Lidia, thank you for coming today.
02:46 I am very happy to see you as well.
02:48 I am so glad that isn't raining today.
02:50 We've had so much rain in Ukraine.
02:53 This was a blessed meeting.
02:56 Tell me, where were you born?
03:00 Foreign language
03:01 It's a very nice historical place with name Yuma.
03:04 Foreign language
03:07 Beautiful parks and lots of beautiful places.
03:10 Foreign language
03:13 Tell me little more about the family,
03:15 big family, little family.
03:17 My grandfather had ten kids.
03:20 My mom was eleventh.
03:22 In my family, it's only me and my brother.
03:25 Little smaller.
03:27 Tell me a little more about yourself as far as,
03:29 where the family Christians or did they not believe,
03:33 where they communist?
03:35 Foreign language
03:37 I learnt everything from my grandparents.
03:40 They show me how to pray.
03:42 We went to church together to a small church.
03:45 Foreign language
03:52 It wasn't an Adventist church.
03:55 I'm not sure what kind of church it was,
03:58 but they were with God.
03:59 Foreign language
04:03 My mother was an Adventist.
04:05 Foreign language
04:08 So did you grow up then a Christian yourself?
04:11 Foreign language
04:13 I was educated about Christ until fourth grade,
04:17 because I was put in an orphanage.
04:20 After that I was separate from Christ,
04:23 because I didn't have anyone to talk about to Christ.
04:27 Foreign language
04:28 My mother was very ill,
04:31 back then a lot of people were getting sick and died.
04:35 I believed that Christ saved her life.
04:37 Foreign language
04:39 She had a serious brain illness.
04:41 She was going through
04:43 with the brain treatments for eight years.
04:46 And finally they decided to make a surgical procedure.
04:50 I was in eighth grade at the time.
04:53 So you went to the university,
04:55 tell me a little more about your university days.
04:59 Foreign language
05:04 I had no help I worked and support myself.
05:08 I had the opportunity at school to communicate
05:11 and meet everyone through Ukraine
05:15 and that's a very nice thing.
05:16 Foreign Language
05:23 I still keep in touch with my classmates.
05:26 Every thing back than was nice.
05:29 God blessed me with a good job
05:31 that was easy to keep while I was in school.
05:34 Foreign Language
05:52 I am very sure that, if they knew I was Adventist,
05:56 they wouldn't have let me attend to college.
05:59 I knew that I couldn't express myself
06:02 and I couldn't talk about Christ,
06:04 I kept Christ in my heart.
06:06 Foreign Language
06:15 Praise the Lord, they were not
06:16 in those times of persecution now.
06:18 You and I can be sitting here in a park
06:20 and talking and it's wonderful.
06:23 Foreign Language
06:27 I thank God everyday for this freedom to praise Him,
06:31 to know Him and to believe and follow Him.
06:34 Foreign Language
06:39 It definitely feels good not to hide.
06:42 God is very important to me now and everything I do is with Him.
06:48 Foreign Language
06:55 This is just one of the capitals of the column like that.
06:58 You can imagine look at the size of this,
07:00 look at how massive those are.
07:02 This is the Temple of Artemis,
07:04 she was the goddess of fertility.
07:06 They normally built a temple like this close to the river.
07:09 They apparently had a system
07:12 where they would cut off portions of an animal,
07:15 drape them over her.
07:16 After a while she would become very bloody,
07:18 so once a year they had a ceremony
07:20 to take her statue down to the river
07:22 and wash and cleanse that statue for the next season.
07:25 Interesting God.
07:34 Until you actually get right up to these,
07:37 you just can't appreciate the size.
07:43 It makes you wonder exactly how they built this.
07:46 There is various stories
07:47 about how they built up sand mounts
07:50 and then added layer after layer of columns.
07:53 Then as they took away the sand,
07:55 they would then chisel and do all their ornate design.
07:59 Whatever it was, they were pretty intelligent.
08:10 As you can see many of these column parts
08:13 are not carved yet.
08:14 Apparently the reason is they started construction
08:17 here during the Hellenistic period,
08:19 it went all the way through into the Roman period
08:22 but it was never finished.
08:29 Excavation of the site began in 1910 by Princeton University.
08:34 Today some of the equipment used
08:35 in the first excavation can still be seen.
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09:47 There are remains of several churches,
09:49 the Temple of Artemis
09:50 and most impressive are the partially rebuilt
09:53 ruins of the Roman gymnasium and the Jewish synagogue.
10:03 Somewhere between 150 and 250 A.D.
10:06 this building was remodeled
10:08 and redesigned from the civic building
10:10 of the government into a Jewish synagogue.
10:13 The area behind me the large labour.
10:16 They speculate that was used for the washing of hands
10:19 before prayer or perhaps just a large gathering area.
10:23 This building holds over a thousand people,
10:26 so it tells them this must have been
10:28 a large Jewish community in the area.
10:31 Over here apparently, these were used to hold torah.
10:35 The artwork here is tremendous on the walls,
10:38 on the floors everywhere, the mosaics, the tiles,
10:41 everything are just tremendous.
10:51 At the front of the synagogue,
10:52 we find this table immediately behind,
10:55 were the areas for the elders to sit.
10:57 What I really wanted to call
10:58 your attention to though is this eagle,
11:01 one on each side of a table,
11:02 a Roman eagle clutching dual thunderbolts.
11:12 The discovery of the Sardis synagogue
11:14 has change the perception
11:15 about Judaism in the later Roman Empire.
11:19 It is now known that the Jewish communities
11:21 were still a vital part of the Roman
11:23 Imperial civic life.
11:25 However most Jewish communities at this time
11:28 were overshadowed by the new Christian religion.
11:33 These marble slabs were originally used by the Pagans,
11:36 had pagan symbols, pagan writing,
11:38 but notice the cross
11:40 is superimposed over the top of them.
11:42 It's believed that this was then used as Baptistery
11:53 After the university what did you do?
11:56 Foreign Language
11:59 I did go to church,
12:01 but I did go to the wrong church for about a year.
12:04 Foreign Language
12:08 This all had a lot to do with my husband passing away.
12:12 I was going through a lot of stressful moments.
12:15 Foreign Language
12:21 At that time I didn't pay attention
12:23 to the different churches.
12:26 I thank God everyday for sending special people into my life
12:31 that helped me get through this tough time.
12:34 Foreign Language
12:38 I happened to read the newspaper and notice the Voice of Hope
12:43 and their Bible study assignment that were offered.
12:47 I know that God wants me to study the Bible
12:50 and He's continuously opening up to me.
12:54 Thanks to Christ,
12:55 I found His truth and His destiny.
12:58 Foreign Language
13:00 Well, it's exciting, tell me more?
13:03 Foreign Language
13:05 The first I ever saw the Bible, God says,
13:09 "If you love Me fulfill My commandments.
13:14 How did that text of John affect your life and your practice?
13:18 Foreign Language
13:20 I've failed to fulfill the fourth commandment
13:25 and I can feel this troubling me till this day.
13:29 Foreign Language
13:31 I thank God for His love and patience.
13:35 He has been waiting for me to correct my ways.
13:40 When I read the scripture,
13:42 I have realized that we're here
13:45 destined to fulfill the good ways
13:49 and like our Christ.
13:51 I own Him myself for taking me
13:54 and keeping me away from the wicked lies.
13:58 Foreign Language
14:00 At first I didn't know what I was doing,
14:05 but later I opened up,
14:07 repented and accepted Christ when I was baptized.
14:13 And I thank God,
14:14 I will never give up and I'll never leave this path.
14:19 And I'll always believe His commandments.
14:22 Foreign Language
14:24 So you started to attend church then?
14:27 Foreign Language
14:29 Yes, I went right away,
14:32 I enjoyed the support that we offer for others.
14:36 We pray for others that Christ would heal,
14:41 help, and support them.
14:43 I receive a great joy and happiness
14:47 that I have the ability to ask Christ
14:50 to support their health and their healing.
14:53 I thank God for this joy and happiness
14:57 and I pray that He would give me ability to help
15:02 and heal others as well.
15:04 Foreign Language
15:08 The Roman gymnasium was an important part of life.
15:11 The ancients believe that the human body
15:13 was a thing of beauty
15:15 and should be displayed and exercised regularly.
15:26 I don't know if you can figure out
15:27 where I'm standing right now,
15:28 but it's actually in the Roman bathroom.
15:31 They had tremendous ingenuity.
15:33 This is four spots here
15:35 and they actually used their slaves to sit down
15:37 and warm the stone before the Roman's would sit here.
15:40 A whole sewage system caught everything
15:43 and washed it all out in the drainage system,
15:45 tremendous ingenuity.
16:02 Here in the ancient city of Sardis,
16:05 I was thinking and contemplating about the lives of the people
16:07 who lived here,
16:09 especially the lives of the Christians.
16:13 I sometimes forget as I read my Bible
16:15 and think about these people
16:17 that they had real lives everyday lives
16:19 like you and I have everyday lives.
16:22 They had to work, they had to eat,
16:23 they had to sleep,
16:25 and they had to survive among the culture a bit,
16:29 that didn't believe like they did.
16:31 They sacrificed humans,
16:33 they looked to gods of sun and moon and stars
16:38 and all the other things.
16:40 The people in Sardis had a faith in Jesus Christ,
16:45 but at some point many of them left that faith,
16:47 but there were those who stayed faithful.
16:49 There were those that held on to the message of Jesus Christ.
16:53 Jesus pointed them to a life hereafter,
16:57 and this was the life that they wanted to have.
17:01 Here in this massive gymnasium,
17:04 the people had fun, and games, and frivolity.
17:08 Oh, they may have believed someone in health,
17:10 but specially the Greeks they love the good game.
17:14 It's exhibited by this massive structure.
17:19 They loved the beauty of the eye,
17:22 the beauty of the senses,
17:25 and these were some of the things
17:26 that the Christians had to struggle against here in Sardis.
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18:44 To the untrained eye, this site really does not look like much
18:47 except perhaps through the cross on the wall over there,
18:50 telling us that may be there was a church here.
18:52 Indeed the archeologists tell us there are two churches.
18:56 Perhaps put the words of Jesus when he said
18:58 "Gather up all the fragments, so nothing be lost"
19:01 applies here because an earthquake or something else
19:04 may have destroyed the first church,
19:06 they gathered up all those fragments,
19:08 added to it, and built another church on top of it.
19:11 Who knows one of these days
19:13 they might find the actual church of Revelation.
19:21 In Revelation 3 verses 1 through 6,
19:24 John speaks of the church of Sardis.
19:27 "Write this letter to the angel of the church in Sardis.
19:32 This is the message from the one
19:33 who has the sevenfold Spirit of God
19:35 and the seven stars,
19:37 "I know all the things you do,
19:39 and that you have a reputation for being alive--
19:42 but you are dead.
19:44 Now wake up!
19:45 Strengthen what little remains,
19:47 for even what is left is at the point of death.
19:50 Your deeds are far from right in the sight of God.
19:54 Go back to what you heard and believed at first,
19:56 hold to it firmly and turn to me again.
19:59 Unless you do, I will come upon you suddenly,
20:02 as unexpected as a thief.
20:05 Yet even in Sardis,
20:06 there are some who have not soiled
20:08 their garments with evil deeds.
20:10 They will walk with me in white, for they are worthy.
20:15 All who are victorious will be clothed in white.
20:18 I will never erase their names from the Book of Life,
20:20 but I will announce before my Father
20:23 and His angels that they are mine.
20:27 Anyone who is willing to hear should listen to the Spirit
20:29 and understand what the Spirit is saying to the churches."
20:35 What a message for all of us,
20:36 "Wake up, wake up the time is at hand
20:39 when everyone will come before the judgments seat of God."
20:43 Turn again to what you once knew to be true.
20:45 Turn again to the faith you once possessed.
20:49 This was the very message
20:50 God continue to whisper to Lidia.
20:53 She had wandered far from her faith,
20:56 but one day she heard God calling her back
20:59 and she did indeed wake up.
21:04 You did things a little different
21:06 than many of our listeners.
21:07 You first did our Bible studies
21:10 and then you said you listened to the radio.
21:13 Tell me how did that work out?
21:15 Foreign Language
21:19 I really wanted to be familiar with the word
21:23 and so I studied newspaper and magazines.
21:26 Foreign Language
21:30 I didn't enjoy listening to the radio
21:33 nor did I watch the television.
21:37 It just didn't feel right being connected that way
21:41 with the rest of the world.
21:44 But I'm really happy
21:45 that Voice of the Hope brought to me
21:48 and give me opportunity to listen to Voice of Hope.
21:52 Foreign Language
21:58 I wanted to tell everyone at church and to my sisters.
22:03 I want everyone to listen, because it's very interesting.
22:08 Foreign Language
22:13 When listening to this, I would definitely say that
22:18 there is a seed planted in the park.
22:21 Foreign Language
22:24 You seem like you're like every one of our AWR listeners.
22:28 As soon as you hear it,
22:29 you want to share the programs with others.
22:31 You want to make waves to everybody else.
22:33 Foreign Language
22:37 Yes, I was always around other people at the foster home
22:42 and even now I tell people about it.
22:46 And after a while they want my presence,
22:50 they thirst for it.
22:52 and I love that feeling that someone else needs me.
22:56 Foreign Language
22:59 There were people that are going to watch
23:02 the two of us talking today and they may realize
23:06 there is something missing in their lives.
23:08 What would you tell them is missing?
23:11 Foreign Language
23:15 I want to say that God is with us today
23:20 and He was there in my past.
23:22 Foreign Language
23:26 I have a lot of friends all over the country
23:29 and when they hear my voice, I hope that they come to Christ.
23:34 Foreign Language
23:37 I really want them to hear me testify
23:40 and I hope that they all come to Christ
23:44 and my relatives as well.
23:47 I want them to have a future with Christ.
23:51 I want them to live an eternal life.
23:54 Foreign Language
23:58 I love them all and I love God,
24:02 because He unite us all.
24:04 Foreign Language
24:09 I know that He will find them when they are lost.
24:13 Foreign Language
24:16 You said it wonderfully.
24:19 Thank you so much for coming today.
24:20 Foreign Language
24:22 I thank God for you guys.
24:24 Foreign Language
24:28 In our story today we saw the experience of Lidia.
24:32 Her mother was an Adventist,
24:34 but she only lived with her mother
24:36 a relatively short time,
24:38 but even that short time made an imprint upon her mind,
24:43 then came the long days of communist atheism.
24:47 It was a dark period for her soul,
24:50 but then the time of change began
24:54 and as communism was fading,
24:56 she learned about the Bible correspondence course
24:59 offered by the Voice of Hope.
25:01 When she began to study that Bible course,
25:04 she had two kinds of reactions.
25:07 One reaction was
25:09 "Hey, I've heard some of these things before.
25:12 I remember that my mother talked about Jesus who saves us,
25:16 and the second coming of Jesus
25:18 and how she went to church on the Sabbath."
25:21 And so she felt happy about that,
25:24 but on the other hand she felt a different kind of feeling.
25:28 She realized that in her life
25:30 she wasn't keeping God's will and so she felt guilty
25:35 and she felt like she should make a change.
25:39 From her study of the Bible lessons
25:41 one key text stood out, it was John 14:15.
25:46 "If you love Me, keep My commandments."
25:49 In one sense, she felt bad
25:52 because she hadn't been keeping God's commandments.
25:55 On the other hand when she remembered that
25:58 Jesus had saved her,
25:59 she wanted to keep the commandments,
26:01 because she loved Jesus.
26:03 Well, it wasn't long before Lidia discovered
26:07 an Adventist Church in her neighborhood
26:10 and when she began to attend that church,
26:12 somehow she just felt like she was at home,
26:15 she had returned to her roots.
26:18 I'm standing here in the area
26:20 where the city of Sardis once stood
26:24 and there was a letter written
26:26 in the Book of Revelation to the city of Sardis.
26:29 There are some differences between Lidia's story
26:32 and the experience of the people here in Sardis.
26:35 In Sardis, the people were known to be Christians,
26:39 but the message to them was
26:41 "Wake up because you're essentially dead."
26:44 In Lidia's case
26:46 she was involved in circumstances
26:49 beyond her control that kept her from learning more about God.
26:54 But finally Lidia took the advice.
26:56 She has returned to the fold of Jesus Christ
27:00 and that's how God wants us to be
27:02 whether we're in the church or outside of the church,
27:05 He wants us to come back to Him.
27:08 Won't you help AWR
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27:14 and return to the fold,
27:16 so that we can be with Him when He comes.
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