Making Waves

Smyrna - Lilya Skachdova

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00:01 The devil persecuted the Christians of Smyrna.
00:03 Why? He is in the business of persecution
00:06 and he is still in the same business today.
00:08 As a matter of fact he may even use
00:10 family members to do it for him.
01:01 Izmir is the great port city in western Turkey.
01:04 It is the country's third most populous city.
01:07 Its port is second only to Istanbul
01:10 and its one of the most beautifully situated cities
01:12 in all of Asia Minor.
01:15 It lies at the head of a gulf that reaches 30 miles inland
01:18 and has a harbor well protected by surrounding mountains.
01:22 The urbanization of Izmir dates back over 3,500 years
01:27 and was known as Smyrna,
01:29 perhaps named after a goddess of the Greeks
01:31 who founded the city.
01:32 It is the second of the Seven Churches of Revelation.
01:40 The ancient remains of the city
01:41 are located in middle of the Smyrna.
01:44 In the last few years
01:45 buildings around the original excavation site
01:48 have been torn down to make way for more
01:50 excavations of this historic site.
01:56 A primary school which burnt was not rebuilt
02:00 and has been incorporated into the excavation site.
02:07 You know as I stroll through
02:08 the ancient part of the city here,
02:09 it's not too difficult to imagine
02:12 what it must have been like almost 2,000 years ago.
02:15 Because some things in Turkey today have changed,
02:18 but some things really haven't changed that much.
02:21 Or just imagine the shopkeepers and the sellers,
02:24 these people know how to sell.
02:26 They know how to barter, they know how to trade,
02:28 because they've been doing it,
02:29 for thousands and thousands of years,
02:32 they're experts at it.
02:33 Imagine over here the little shopkeeper
02:35 with her bread selling her wares
02:38 and in the next one the fine carpets,
02:41 the next one the linens.
02:43 And as the people nudge and jostle
02:45 one and other through the days,
02:47 of the hot days, they buy all their wares.
02:50 They come over here to a natural spring that is so cool,
02:54 so cold, so refreshing.
02:56 Why is this tap so wonderful?
02:59 It's so exciting to think
03:01 we're here Smyrna, biblical Smyrna.
03:04 What a phenomenal area?
03:06 So much history, but you realize
03:11 they were only here for a short amount of time.
03:14 We talk about thousands of years
03:16 but it's only a short amount of time you see
03:18 because God create us for eternity not for time.
03:23 And that's the whole difference
03:24 that's what made the difference here to the Christians
03:27 when God could point them to the heavenly universal luck.
03:35 Today the most important result of the new studies
03:38 has been the discovery of the Agora's northern gate.
03:41 Embossed figures of the Goddess Hestia
03:43 found in these digs were continuation of the Zeus altar
03:47 uncovered during the original digs.
03:51 The gods Hermes, Dionysus, Eros and Hercules
03:55 have also been found.
03:56 As well as many statues, heads,
03:58 figurines and monuments of people and animals
04:01 made of marbles, stone, bone, glass, metal and terracotta.
04:14 We're in a beautiful city here at the city of Kiev.
04:17 Lilya where were you born?
04:19 I was born here in Kiev.
04:22 Tell me a little bit about yourself?
04:23 What's your occupation?
04:25 What do you do?
04:27 I work for a construction company as a manager.
04:33 That building here over my shoulders
04:36 was built by our company.
04:38 How many years have you done that?
04:42 In this organization I worked for four years,
04:45 but I used to work for a different company
04:49 that deal with a construction as well.
04:51 Now I know you're a Christian now,
04:53 but how about all your life.
04:55 What, tell me more about your life?
04:59 Yes those are old days of course,
05:03 but I'm a Christian since year 2000.
05:07 What was your life like before that?
05:10 A life of an original person.
05:17 I was a person who believed in human power
05:20 believe in only myself and my close one.
05:26 So was there any happiness in the life of the old Lilya?
05:33 Of course the birth of my son
05:36 and the love of my life say it merits.
05:42 Life brings a lot of happiness.
05:46 So you're like many people, good job, marriage, child,
05:53 don't really care about God.
05:56 I always thought that God was there.
05:59 But I believe that He was too busy for me.
06:04 Something changed for you, tell me what that was?
06:09 I believe that God didn't want the person like me
06:12 to go through with so many sufferings.
06:19 My son was a good kid until eighth grade.
06:23 In high school I started noticing things,
06:26 but I couldn't understand what just yet.
06:34 But later I found out that he was doing drugs.
06:41 For those that know about this problem
06:44 maybe some of you are going through these problems
06:47 and you do realize that this is hell on earth.
06:52 And I was the woman who came so close to this hell.
06:57 Fourteen years my son was taking drugs.
07:02 Me and my husband tried to put him through treatments
07:05 and tried to get help nothing helped.
07:09 He came and said, listen mom everything that you
07:13 and the rest of the people told me
07:16 I let in one ear and out of the other.
07:19 He said his only wish is to do drugs.
07:26 My husband at a point told me that
07:29 I don't have a son anymore,
07:31 we lost our son.
07:33 Foreign Language
07:39 With me lives my mother who is 87-years-old.
07:43 We were going through a rough time.
07:46 My son sold everything we had.
07:52 My only option at this time
07:54 felt like I either had to kill myself
07:58 or start drinking heavily.
08:03 Even though I was not baptized nor did I come to Christ,
08:07 I still had Christ help me through my tough times.
08:16 We know that Alexander the Great was in this area,
08:19 but the rest of it is legend.
08:21 He fell asleep one day after a hunt up here on this hill.
08:25 In a dream God has appeared to Him
08:28 and said you should relocate the city up here?
08:31 Well before he did that he traveled some distance
08:33 and checked with an oracle.
08:34 The oracle too had the same idea and said, yes.
08:38 It will be a blessing for you to do so.
08:40 So he directed his general to rebuild the city up there.
08:44 Now what seems to be fact
08:46 is Lysimachus his general actually constructed walls
08:50 in some of the area of the city up there
08:51 and lived there himself for sometime.
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11:43 We're here in Izmir, Turkey.
11:44 It's actual the ancient biblical city of Smyrna.
11:48 It's an active archeological site.
11:50 This whole area was destroyed by an earthquake in A.D.178,
11:54 but Marcus O'Reilly has took it upon himself to rebuilt it.
11:58 I understand all these architraves
12:00 all of these columns were his edition to fortify the city
12:03 and fortify this area against future earthquakes.
12:09 If you've ever wondered what the wife
12:11 of Marcus O'Reilly has look like.
12:12 Well there she is right up on the top of the ark,
12:15 her name was Fovestina.
12:19 So you are drinking, you are considering suicide,
12:24 what happened from that moment?
12:26 One day I heard my door bell ring.
12:29 And when I answered it in front of me
12:32 people stood that attended church.
12:35 I made sure to identify myself and to see what they want it.
12:41 I find out that he was actually attending a church
12:45 and I believed that God guided him.
12:54 I was worried that my son would end up
12:58 where he started,
12:59 so I decide to meet those people.
13:04 They agreed to meet with me
13:07 and I decide to tell them everything.
13:11 Then people started telling me who I am.
13:15 They invited me to visit their church.
13:18 This church is located here in Kiev
13:21 and it's called the Victory Church.
13:24 The pastor here in Kiev, he is from Zimbabwe.
13:28 I spent four years in this church.
13:32 My son stopped going to church and continue using
13:36 and experimenting with the drugs.
13:39 Who were you, where did you find out you were?
13:43 After I read the Ten Commandments
13:45 I compare my life to it.
13:47 And I realize I was sinner.
13:52 I understood and felt guilty in front of my son.
13:57 I decided to wash his cloths keep him clean,
14:00 get feed him good food
14:02 and basically try to keep him near me,
14:05 so he wouldn't go away.
14:07 The way it was when he was younger
14:11 that would be enough for me.
14:17 This wasn't a month,
14:19 this was a year, this was 14 years.
14:27 Can you even imagine?
14:32 God whispered in my ear, tell your son you love him.
14:48 With all the problems that were going on
14:51 and all the money
14:53 that I had to spend on him in the end
14:56 I was supposed to say I love you.
15:06 Now he is in the church for a while
15:08 and you said he left your son, what, what happened?
15:13 He wanted to stay but his soul wouldn't let him.
15:17 I know that God was the one
15:19 who is quite at him in that direction first.
15:22 But his soul wouldn't let him, he wasn't ready.
15:30 I tried to bring my sister as well her son was alcoholic.
15:39 Together I and my sister started praying,
15:43 her son was dying.
15:45 How can this be?
15:47 We prayed and praying and her son still died.
15:52 So we both left this church
15:53 and decided to not come for a whole year.
15:58 Prior to the destruction of the area
16:00 by an earthquake there were mainly government buildings
16:03 establishments that type of thing here
16:05 and the Altar of Zeus.
16:07 After that time in the lower areas
16:09 especially a lot of shopkeepers moved in,
16:11 so it became more of a general marketplace for the area.
16:15 However still the main attraction was Zeus.
16:19 The God that looked for sacrifices,
16:22 the God that looked for that type of thing and perhaps
16:25 a child from a Christian snatched from his arms.
16:27 I don't know it's just my thoughts
16:29 of what could have happened
16:30 because there was a great deal of persecution
16:32 to the Christians in this area.
16:46 In and into the angel of the church of Smyrna write.
16:49 These things say at the first
16:50 and the last which was dead and is alive.
16:53 I know they works in tribulation and poverty,
16:57 but they aren't rich
16:58 and I know the blasphemy of them
17:00 which say they're Jews and are not,
17:02 but are the synagogue of Satan.
17:05 "Fear none of those things
17:06 which thou shalt suffer: behold,
17:08 the devil shall cast some of you into prison,
17:11 that ye may be tried,
17:12 and ye shall have tribulation ten days,
17:16 be thou faithful unto death,
17:18 and I will give thee a crown of life.
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19:34 John speaks of tribulation lasting ten days.
19:38 The suffering and poverty
19:39 of their community was well known
19:41 and caused by Roman oppression and the Jewish community
19:44 that did not accept Christianity.
19:47 The city was famous for its loyalty to Rome
19:50 and was happy to persecute Christians to please Rome.
19:54 The ten day period of tribulation
19:56 has been viewed by scholars in two different ways.
19:59 The first is the day for a year
20:00 principle the Bible sets forth in Numbers and Ezekiel.
20:05 If it is understood in this manner,
20:07 the ten years fits with the period 303 to 313.
20:12 During this time Diocletian and his associates
20:14 conducted the most bitter campaign of annihilation
20:17 of Christianity ever suffered at the hands of Pagan Rome.
20:23 If on the other hand
20:24 it is a literal ten day period and not prophetic time.
20:28 It could then mean a brief period of persecution
20:30 that the Christians of Smyrna
20:32 no doubt suffered in apostolic times.
20:35 This too is a sound biblical interpretation.
20:39 Gladiator games could have been referenced here
20:41 as their time of persecution.
20:43 Inscriptions have been found in the Agora,
20:45 speaking of gladiator games for five days.
20:50 The stories of martyrdom
20:51 associated with these games is very common.
20:57 Popular punishment
20:58 reserved for Christians were crucifixion,
21:00 burning or been thrown to wild animals
21:03 often carried out in open places of assembly.
21:08 Your son is still a drug addict apparently,
21:12 your sister's son has died.
21:15 Now what happens in your life?
21:17 And the charismatic church
21:19 they never talk about the Sabbath day.
21:25 So I decided to pray to God.
21:30 I prayed Lord you see and know the pain
21:34 that I'm going through inside.
21:36 Please guide me to the real church.
21:41 I heard that over Saturday and Sunday,
21:44 they have translated Bible messages
21:46 by the name of Voice of Hope.
21:49 I heard them talk about Saturday.
21:52 They told us to write them
21:54 and they will sent my way free Bible study homework.
21:59 So I wrote them a letter
22:01 and received my first lessons from the Bible school.
22:06 I was studying for about a year.
22:08 And then they offered to go little bit more in-depth,
22:12 I passed that as well.
22:15 At the end of my lessons
22:17 they offered me a church where I went.
22:20 It was an Adventist Church of the Seventh-day.
22:25 Everything that is said in church,
22:27 I always make sure to check for myself
22:30 before following what the word says.
22:35 I was baptized there and for two years
22:39 I'm a part of this church.
22:42 I see the smile on your face, so I know you have happiness.
22:45 But I imagine you still have trails and problems,
22:48 but God has helped you.
22:53 I want to say that today
22:54 my son has been drug free for four years.
22:59 I praise the Lord, he is a Baptist
23:03 and he is walking with God today.
23:06 I use to attend a Baptist church
23:08 and I know that God is with him
23:11 and will guide him.
23:13 So God is working in his life too.
23:17 Yes of course praise Him, praise the Lord.
23:23 Today I hug my son,
23:26 we tell each other how much we love one another
23:29 and we pray together.
23:31 My son has changed a lot.
23:34 He even appreciate his father.
23:38 Christ the Lord, God bless us, I can't ask for anything else.
23:44 So all of the time and energy and the money
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23:52 because you are here.
23:55 I pray to God and I told God,
23:58 said if you take my son away from these drugs,
24:01 I promise that I will share this gospel
24:04 everywhere I go, I'll spread Your word.
24:08 Really, I'm really so happy
24:09 that your story does have a happy ending.
24:18 Many years after the persecution
24:19 by the early church of Revelation,
24:22 another person was persecuted by the name of Polycarp.
24:25 Polycarp was the bishop
24:27 here of the church in the area lived here for many years.
24:29 But he too for his faith was martyred.
24:33 A letter known as the Martyrdom of Polycarp
24:35 states that he was taken on the day of the Sabbath
24:37 and killed on the Great Sabbath.
24:40 They hung him on the funeral pyre of fire,
24:42 but he was not destroyed, and in frustration
24:45 they finally stabbed him to death.
24:47 He was faithful to the end for his faith also.
24:54 But persecution only made the Christians stronger.
24:57 They grew in numbers
24:58 and in faith as they endured the pain
25:00 and suffering heaped upon them.
25:03 Lilya is the same.
25:05 She has endured tremendous hardship
25:07 and suffering even from her own family,
25:10 but despite the devils onslaught
25:12 she has remained faithful.
25:19 Lilya suffered the heartache
25:20 of so many parents all around the world.
25:23 She watched her son go down
25:25 into the depth of hell in drug abuse.
25:29 For her, it was a kind of persecution.
25:33 How could she stand it?
25:36 She even suffered physically and materially
25:38 from it as her son sold the possessions
25:41 of their house to support his drug habit.
25:45 But God was faithful and she responded.
25:49 The Voice of Hope did its job
25:54 as an instrument of God and gave her hope.
25:58 I'm standing here
25:59 in the place of the old city of Smyrna.
26:03 There was a Christian church here in Smyrna.
26:07 It received the letter from our Lord
26:10 as recorded in the Book of Revelation.
26:12 In this letter it told how they would be severely persecuted.
26:17 But then it also said
26:19 keep faithful even to the point of death
26:23 and you'll receive a crown of life.
26:27 Lilya is looking forward to that heavenly reward.
26:30 But she also found that God
26:33 gave her a sustaining power for her life even now,
26:38 power to cope, the encouragement of hope.
26:44 You may have a trial in your life
26:46 that you're facing right now.
26:48 God will help you.
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26:59 who have very difficult circumstances in their lives.
27:02 Let's give them something to live for.
27:06 Christians are no longer dying in Roman amphitheatres.
27:09 But they're dying nonetheless, they're giving up their lives,
27:12 because they love the gospel of Jesus Christ so much.
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