We drove for a lot of miles this afternoon 00:01:01.33\00:01:03.40 through what seemed like hot air and desert 00:01:03.40\00:01:05.40 but in reality it used to be all a big bay. 00:01:05.40\00:01:09.73 We arrived here in Miletus. 00:01:09.73\00:01:11.90 Miletus was a major importance in the time of Paul. 00:01:11.90\00:01:16.90 It was actually a bigger city than Ephesus was. 00:01:16.90\00:01:19.86 You remember in the book of Acts. 00:01:19.86\00:01:21.76 Paul sealed here, called all the elders 00:01:21.76\00:01:24.33 from Ephesus to come here to speak with him. 00:01:24.33\00:01:26.70 How to take charge of the church, 00:01:26.70\00:01:28.10 how to foster God's children. 00:01:28.10\00:01:30.46 This was the time when he was heading 00:01:30.46\00:01:31.83 to Jerusalem and before he left they embraced him, 00:01:31.83\00:01:35.00 they gave him hugs and kisses, the Bible says, 00:01:35.00\00:01:37.33 fell on his neck because their leader was leaving. 00:01:37.33\00:01:40.56 He spent years with them in this area. 00:01:40.56\00:01:42.80 This is an interesting place 00:01:43.40\00:01:44.80 because not only was it a large center of commerce 00:01:44.80\00:01:48.46 but because it had two bays, ships could sail in and out. 00:01:48.46\00:01:52.13 Remember no motorized boats in those days 00:01:52.13\00:01:55.90 but they could sail in the one area, 00:01:55.90\00:01:58.10 if the wind was contrary they would sail in the other way 00:01:58.10\00:02:00.70 that's why it made it so important 00:02:00.70\00:02:03.23 for this particular city. 00:02:03.23\00:02:05.60 At its height of glory you can see 00:02:05.60\00:02:07.53 some of what's left here, massive amphitheater, 00:02:07.53\00:02:11.66 buildings, construction everywhere. 00:02:12.20\00:02:14.90 Huge city flourishing during the time of Rome 00:02:14.90\00:02:17.13 and maybe even a little bit before them. 00:02:17.13\00:02:21.43 Just imagine the jigsaw puzzle was out here. 00:02:21.43\00:02:24.53 Many times you see 00:02:24.53\00:02:25.50 that they mark them with specific codes. 00:02:25.50\00:02:28.10 They have been started doing that yet and once 00:02:28.10\00:02:30.46 they get the codes together they catalog everything, 00:02:30.46\00:02:34.36 then they put it in the computer 00:02:34.36\00:02:35.60 and start rebuilding the model. 00:02:35.60\00:02:38.00 They've got a lot of work ahead of them. 00:02:38.00\00:02:39.60 Andrey, thank you for joining us today. 00:02:46.20\00:02:48.26 foreign language 00:02:48.26\00:02:53.73 Now this is the Russian summer I'm cold. 00:02:53.73\00:02:56.90 You, you seem like you're warm. 00:02:56.90\00:02:59.26 foreign language 00:02:59.26\00:03:05.33 We're accustomed to have that kind of weather. 00:03:05.33\00:03:08.26 I'd hate to see Russian winter. 00:03:08.26\00:03:10.16 Yes, How much snow do you get? 00:03:10.16\00:03:13.23 foreign language 00:03:13.23\00:03:17.66 All winter? 00:03:17.66\00:03:20.86 During the biggest once, yes. 00:03:20.86\00:03:23.13 Now I can see why you're in 00:03:23.13\00:03:24.43 short sleeves and I am in a coat. 00:03:24.43\00:03:26.90 Yes, Tell me a little bit of your story 00:03:26.90\00:03:29.36 what do you do for a job? 00:03:29.36\00:03:31.50 foreign language Now? foreign language 00:03:31.50\00:03:36.53 Oh, manager in a company 00:03:36.53\00:03:38.03 that deals with public health issues. 00:03:38.03\00:03:40.40 Okay, okay, you've been that--doing 00:03:40.40\00:03:42.43 that for a long time? 00:03:42.43\00:03:43.46 Half a year. 00:03:43.46\00:03:44.66 Oh, what you do before? 00:03:44.66\00:03:46.10 foreign language 00:03:46.10\00:03:48.36 I work for a missionary group 00:03:48.36\00:03:50.00 for a program "300" not far from the city. 00:03:50.00\00:03:53.33 foreign language 00:03:53.33\00:03:55.46 I started a new church 00:03:55.46\00:03:56.80 and I was working there for seven years. 00:03:56.80\00:03:59.13 So you've always been a Christian? 00:03:59.13\00:04:01.16 No, I was an atheist since my childhood. 00:04:01.16\00:04:04.26 Okay, what point did you become a Christian? 00:04:04.26\00:04:08.40 foreign language 00:04:08.40\00:04:09.96 The main thing was the information, 00:04:09.96\00:04:12.10 true and serious information. 00:04:12.10\00:04:14.50 And I heard it through the "Voice of Hope." 00:04:14.50\00:04:16.46 foreign language 00:04:16.46\00:04:17.83 Well, I definitely wanna come back to that in a minute 00:04:17.83\00:04:19.86 because that's important to us. 00:04:19.86\00:04:22.36 Let me ask you. 00:04:22.36\00:04:24.90 How old were you at that time? 00:04:24.90\00:04:27.63 Twenty-five. Twenty-five. 00:04:27.63\00:04:29.30 so you are an atheist for 25 years. 00:04:29.30\00:04:32.33 Well, at around 18, 19 I started thinking about it. 00:04:32.33\00:04:36.43 I understood that there was something 00:04:36.43\00:04:38.40 but I cannot figure out what it was. 00:04:38.40\00:04:40.90 So it seems like from what I've heard 00:04:40.90\00:04:42.60 that a lot of people in the country were atheists 00:04:42.60\00:04:47.76 but many of them began thinking 00:04:47.76\00:04:49.50 there's got to be something more than atheism. 00:04:49.50\00:04:52.63 Yes, Why, why did you get your thinking 00:04:52.63\00:04:55.63 was there anything that said oh, 00:04:55.63\00:04:56.90 there's got to be something more? 00:04:56.90\00:04:58.86 foreign language 00:04:58.86\00:05:01.40 From the start in school 00:05:01.40\00:05:03.30 they told us that evolution was the truth 00:05:03.30\00:05:05.70 and the Bible was a myth. 00:05:05.70\00:05:07.53 foreign language 00:05:07.53\00:05:10.50 And it was impossible 00:05:10.50\00:05:11.53 to receive information from anyone. 00:05:11.53\00:05:13.83 foreign language 00:05:13.83\00:05:16.10 So you're brainwashed in school, 00:05:16.10\00:05:18.00 all through school but yet something 00:05:18.00\00:05:19.83 kept speaking to you? 00:05:19.83\00:05:21.83 foreign language 00:05:21.83\00:05:27.60 Through the "Voice of Hope" 00:05:27.60\00:05:28.56 I realized that the sophistication of nature, 00:05:28.56\00:05:31.53 many think and realized that there is a creator. 00:05:31.53\00:05:34.26 foreign language 00:05:34.26\00:05:40.73 Although this amphitheater is smaller 00:05:48.50\00:05:50.63 than the one in Ephesus 00:05:50.63\00:05:51.63 to me it's a lot more impressive. 00:05:51.63\00:05:55.30 It's beautiful in design it's, 00:05:55.30\00:05:57.03 it's--I don't know it's just gorgeous. 00:05:57.03\00:05:59.50 The Greeks really knew how to do it. 00:05:59.50\00:06:02.56 We think today of our stadiums, 00:06:02.56\00:06:03.93 our football stadiums and things that, 00:06:03.93\00:06:05.93 it's a new invention but they had done their science here. 00:06:05.93\00:06:09.20 Look around and say wow, 00:06:09.20\00:06:11.23 they really knew what they're doing. 00:06:11.23\00:06:12.66 Maybe, maybe that's why Paul there at Athens 00:06:12.66\00:06:16.20 went up on Mars Hill. 00:06:16.20\00:06:18.16 He began talking with these men 00:06:18.16\00:06:19.63 about the great things, speaking to them 00:06:19.63\00:06:21.80 about the unknown God. 00:06:21.80\00:06:23.76 Because they had a statue to even 00:06:23.76\00:06:25.33 the unknown God, they wanted 00:06:25.33\00:06:26.73 to make certain--they had all basis covered. 00:06:26.73\00:06:29.40 They had them covered in philosophy. 00:06:29.40\00:06:30.90 They had them covered in everyway. 00:06:30.90\00:06:33.10 Except they really didn't know the creator God. 00:06:33.10\00:06:36.80 I can imagine Paul perhaps standing 00:06:36.80\00:06:38.60 right here and addressing the great throngs of people 00:06:38.60\00:06:41.70 during the Roman times. 00:06:41.70\00:06:43.50 But things were a little bit different in Roman times 00:06:43.50\00:06:45.73 because once Rome took over they tore out 00:06:45.73\00:06:48.70 many of the seats and they created an arena of blood. 00:06:48.70\00:06:52.96 The gladiators, the lions, it looks to me like the, 00:06:52.96\00:06:58.43 the level here is a little too low for lions 00:06:58.43\00:07:00.96 but I guess there was a readymade feast 00:07:00.96\00:07:02.80 within the arena so the lions really 00:07:02.80\00:07:04.90 didn't have to go anyplace. 00:07:04.90\00:07:07.03 It's hard for me to imagine today what it must 00:07:07.03\00:07:10.90 have been like. 00:07:10.90\00:07:12.96 Blood soaked ground, people screaming and cheering 00:07:12.96\00:07:15.70 for the death of someone else. 00:07:15.70\00:07:17.80 What a time? 00:07:17.80\00:07:19.73 These were not the cheap seats. 00:07:29.60\00:07:30.93 These were the expensive seats 00:07:30.93\00:07:32.36 but they probably misplaced this one. 00:07:32.36\00:07:35.13 In all reality it would have been down further 00:07:35.13\00:07:37.63 in the front because the big man, the governors, 00:07:37.63\00:07:40.63 all the rulers they sat down further 00:07:40.63\00:07:43.16 but they got the good seats with a backrest 00:07:43.16\00:07:45.90 even though it was rock, it's still a backrest. 00:07:45.90\00:07:48.43 As you can see AWR is frontline mission radio. 00:07:49.50\00:07:53.43 Our first priority is to travel 00:07:53.43\00:07:55.23 where missionaries cannot go. 00:07:55.23\00:07:57.83 We broadcast thousands of hours each day 00:07:57.83\00:08:00.30 in 70 major languages of the world. 00:08:00.30\00:08:03.70 AWR has the capability and capacity of blanketing 00:08:03.70\00:08:06.66 almost 80% of the world's population. 00:08:06.66\00:08:09.90 Not only do we broadcast via shortwave radio 00:08:09.90\00:08:13.03 but our signal is on over 1000 FM and AM stations 00:08:13.03\00:08:16.76 around the world as well. 00:08:16.76\00:08:19.03 Our podcast subscribers, internet users, 00:08:19.03\00:08:21.90 satellite downlinks are growing rapidly. 00:08:21.90\00:08:24.50 Evidenced by the hundred thousand plus e-mails, 00:08:24.50\00:08:27.40 letters, and phone calls we receive each and every year. 00:08:27.40\00:08:31.36 Yes, AWR is your mission radio. 00:08:31.36\00:08:34.66 No walls and no borders. 00:08:34.66\00:08:36.33 For AWR that means change lives and change hearts 00:08:36.33\00:08:39.20 around the world because God is using 00:08:39.20\00:08:41.96 the airwaves of AWR to reach people everywhere. 00:08:41.96\00:08:46.40 Here is another story of hope from Adventist World Radio. 00:08:49.50\00:08:53.96 You're crazy and the Bible is corrupt and distorted. 00:08:53.96\00:08:57.40 The letter said, "Please do not write me back." 00:08:57.40\00:09:00.56 It was from Salome a devout Muslim in North Africa. 00:09:00.56\00:09:04.70 Our staff member who received 00:09:04.70\00:09:06.13 the letter honored Salome's request and did not reply. 00:09:06.13\00:09:09.90 For weeks she prayed to the Holy Spirit 00:09:09.90\00:09:12.30 would bring Salome to Christ. 00:09:12.30\00:09:14.40 One day a letter arrived from Salome. 00:09:14.40\00:09:17.46 "I want to apologize for what I wrote before," it said. 00:09:17.46\00:09:21.76 "I don't know what's happening but lately something greater 00:09:21.76\00:09:25.86 than I has opened my eyes and filled my heart 00:09:25.86\00:09:29.40 with a desire to know more about Jesus. 00:09:29.40\00:09:32.36 Please forgive me and send me your Bible lessons." 00:09:32.36\00:09:37.30 Adventist World Radio shares the hope of Christ 00:09:37.30\00:09:41.03 with millions of people every day in their own languages. 00:09:41.03\00:09:45.23 For more information visit awr.org. 00:09:45.23\00:09:49.36 I'm actually standing on top of the hill right 00:09:49.36\00:09:51.90 now which is a fort. 00:09:51.90\00:09:53.60 The forts that the Turks built 00:09:53.60\00:09:55.33 above all the Greek and the Roman ruins. 00:09:55.33\00:09:58.23 What I wanted to show you is right behind me. 00:09:58.23\00:10:00.70 You can see out there the Aegean Sea. 00:10:00.70\00:10:03.20 The sea used to come right up very close over 00:10:03.20\00:10:06.13 here and on the other side also. 00:10:06.13\00:10:09.70 It's hard to imagine how all these silted 00:10:09.70\00:10:11.80 in but overtime it did and hence 00:10:11.80\00:10:14.20 today all the farmland fields. 00:10:14.20\00:10:16.40 When Paul landed in the harbor 00:10:21.26\00:10:23.20 he sent words to the Ephesians. 00:10:23.20\00:10:24.50 Now they had to come through 00:10:24.50\00:10:25.50 these mountains right over here. 00:10:25.50\00:10:28.93 Fifty kilometers away, that's a long journey. 00:10:28.93\00:10:32.33 Where did he stay, at that realm? 00:10:32.33\00:10:34.10 This is my sanctified imagination but perhaps 00:10:34.10\00:10:36.40 he stayed in something like this as he waited 00:10:36.40\00:10:38.46 for those men because it was a, 00:10:38.46\00:10:40.10 a several day journey. 00:10:40.10\00:10:42.23 What did he talk about? 00:10:42.23\00:10:44.20 He was levy. 00:10:44.20\00:10:45.23 These were his children. 00:10:45.23\00:10:46.43 He loved them supremely. 00:10:46.43\00:10:48.56 He wanted to uplift them even further 00:10:48.56\00:10:50.13 to Jesus Christ and I'm sure he talked with them 00:10:50.13\00:10:52.33 about their reunion in heaven. 00:10:52.33\00:10:53.86 Immediately behind me you'll see the old ruins 00:10:59.50\00:11:01.70 and also olive grows. 00:11:01.70\00:11:04.03 It brings up a very interesting story 00:11:04.03\00:11:05.83 of a man named Thales. 00:11:05.83\00:11:07.10 Thales was before the time of Paul. 00:11:07.10\00:11:09.93 But Thales was a man who observed things. 00:11:09.93\00:11:12.63 He observed nature. 00:11:12.63\00:11:13.70 He watched the comings and goings of the sun 00:11:13.70\00:11:16.63 and the moon and the stars. 00:11:16.63\00:11:18.40 He noticed that certain years these olive trees 00:11:18.40\00:11:21.83 would produce large amounts, other years not much. 00:11:21.83\00:11:27.20 He began thinking about this and soon 00:11:27.20\00:11:29.23 he fashioned a plan. 00:11:29.23\00:11:30.26 He told his neighbors and friends 00:11:30.26\00:11:31.60 but they wouldn't believe him, science, these things, 00:11:31.60\00:11:34.26 observation it meant nothing to them. 00:11:34.26\00:11:37.30 But he was going to prove something. 00:11:37.30\00:11:39.46 And the years that his trees produced 00:11:39.46\00:11:41.36 great abundance of olives he collected those olives. 00:11:41.36\00:11:44.63 The next year not many olives, 00:11:44.63\00:11:46.43 he sold all the olives to the friends and neighbors 00:11:46.43\00:11:49.83 and relatives and everybody around, 00:11:49.83\00:11:51.80 when they had none. 00:11:51.80\00:11:52.80 He made a lot of money in commerce 00:11:52.80\00:11:54.66 and that made everybody else think 00:11:54.66\00:11:56.43 this man may know something. 00:11:56.43\00:11:59.16 Some of the people we talk to pronounce his name Thales 00:12:04.30\00:12:07.56 but the Greeks actually pronounced it Thales. 00:12:07.56\00:12:10.60 Before Thales the Greeks explained 00:12:10.60\00:12:12.40 the origin and nature of the world through 00:12:12.40\00:12:14.20 myths and anthropomorphic gods and heroes. 00:12:14.20\00:12:17.43 Phenomena such as lightning and earthquakes 00:12:17.43\00:12:19.33 were attributed to actions of the gods. 00:12:19.33\00:12:21.96 In contrast to these mythological explanations 00:12:21.96\00:12:25.13 Thales attempted to find naturalistic explanations 00:12:25.13\00:12:28.03 of the world without reference 00:12:28.03\00:12:29.83 to the supernatural. 00:12:29.83\00:12:31.70 He explained earthquakes by hypothesizing 00:12:31.70\00:12:33.80 that the earth floats on water and earthquakes 00:12:33.80\00:12:36.43 occur when the earth is rocked by waves. 00:12:36.43\00:12:39.33 His philosophies help bring about scientific observation 00:12:39.33\00:12:43.03 rather than the contemporary thought that the gods 00:12:43.03\00:12:45.46 were the source and explanation of these things 00:12:45.46\00:12:48.00 that they did not understand. 00:12:48.00\00:12:49.43 Okay, so we're actually back to AWR. 00:12:51.30\00:12:54.03 Tell me then how did you first find it on the radio dial? 00:12:54.03\00:12:58.00 Around 1991 or 1992. 00:12:58.00\00:13:01.53 And what happened? 00:13:01.53\00:13:02.56 Exactly how did you find it? 00:13:02.56\00:13:04.53 foreign language 00:13:04.53\00:13:05.70 It was by chance--it happened by chance. 00:13:05.70\00:13:08.80 By an accident? 00:13:08.80\00:13:10.10 Back then, I thought it was by accident. 00:13:10.30\00:13:13.00 And what was the first program that you heard? 00:13:13.00\00:13:17.00 No, Don't remember that but, 00:13:17.00\00:13:19.26 but there was a change--start to change in his life? 00:13:19.26\00:13:22.33 Yes, foreign language 00:13:22.33\00:13:26.03 Yes, because they carried out 00:13:26.03\00:13:27.43 serious educational information from just 00:13:27.43\00:13:30.20 the first time listening to it. 00:13:30.20\00:13:33.66 And it caught my attention and it was very interesting 00:13:33.66\00:13:36.70 and started drawing me in. 00:13:36.70\00:13:38.60 After receiving so many facts I started comparing 00:13:38.60\00:13:41.56 it to evolution and later started reading the Bible. 00:13:41.56\00:13:46.23 After knowing more about Christ I started praying 00:13:46.23\00:13:49.80 and later God started answering my prayers 00:13:49.80\00:13:52.06 and miracles began happening in my life. 00:13:52.06\00:13:55.00 So I decided to turn my life around. 00:13:55.00\00:13:58.80 What caused you to actually pray? 00:13:58.80\00:14:00.50 I mean praying is a Christian thing and you, 00:14:00.50\00:14:03.56 you hear a program and you started praying? 00:14:03.56\00:14:06.86 I wanted to receive help. 00:14:06.86\00:14:09.36 So you just knew that help would come from there? 00:14:09.36\00:14:12.76 Yes, I had a lot of problems 00:14:12.76\00:14:15.46 that I wanted to get rid off during that time. 00:14:15.46\00:14:18.23 Alcoholism, smoking I tried with all my power to quit. 00:14:18.23\00:14:23.36 I read in the Bible that God can straighten 00:14:23.36\00:14:25.70 you so I decided to try. 00:14:25.70\00:14:28.53 If it worked, it worked. 00:14:28.53\00:14:30.83 If it doesn't I don't lose much trying 00:14:30.83\00:14:33.70 but I did have a lot of faith that it would work. 00:14:33.70\00:14:36.36 Now you began listening to AWR, 00:14:36.36\00:14:38.70 your life started changing, 00:14:38.70\00:14:39.93 you quit all these things, what, what next? 00:14:39.93\00:14:43.46 Yes, I started going to a small Bible studies 00:14:43.46\00:14:46.00 group here in a small church. 00:14:46.00\00:14:48.10 And even before that 00:14:48.10\00:14:49.10 I attended a Russian Orthodox Church 00:14:49.10\00:14:51.73 and went to a Protestant Church as well. 00:14:51.73\00:14:54.23 And after that I compared the two churches 00:14:54.23\00:14:56.36 and decided to attend the Protestant Church 00:14:56.36\00:14:58.96 because it sounded closest to what I wanted to hear 00:14:58.96\00:15:01.90 and what I was comfortable listening to and later 00:15:01.90\00:15:04.93 I became closer with Christ and was baptized. 00:15:04.93\00:15:08.00 Now you're baptized where in, in Adventist Church? 00:15:08.00\00:15:11.33 Yes, Okay, so you did the, 00:15:11.33\00:15:14.10 you did the Bible studies do you, you-- 00:15:14.10\00:15:16.26 foreign language 00:15:16.26\00:15:18.66 Yes, foreign language 00:15:18.66\00:15:21.96 From the "Voice of Hope," 00:15:21.96\00:15:23.33 24 discs to change my life 00:15:23.33\00:15:26.10 and I was amazed it was fantastic. 00:15:26.10\00:15:29.70 Now I thought I heard him say fantastic, 00:15:29.70\00:15:31.76 did I hear him say that? Yes, 00:15:31.76\00:15:33.16 So that's was--you're into English words. 00:15:33.16\00:15:34.76 Fantastic, all right. 00:15:34.76\00:15:37.70 So, so what's your life been like now? 00:15:37.70\00:15:42.30 The Bible can only describe my life as the blessed one. 00:15:42.30\00:15:49.13 Do you share AWR and your faith with others? 00:15:49.13\00:15:52.23 Everyone I know. 00:15:52.23\00:15:53.93 Everyone, Yes. 00:15:53.93\00:15:55.66 foreign language 00:15:55.66\00:15:57.60 When I visited the bordering city of Kimovsky 00:15:57.60\00:16:00.70 everyone in that town knew and even 00:16:00.70\00:16:02.93 when I was with the missionary they all knew. 00:16:02.93\00:16:06.00 Everywhere I go I recommend "Voice of Hope." 00:16:06.00\00:16:09.13 The city of Miletus became one of the 12 Ionian Cities 00:16:14.70\00:16:17.80 of Asian Minor. 00:16:17.80\00:16:19.26 Another Ionian city was Priene. 00:16:19.26\00:16:22.46 Situated across the valley floor against 00:16:22.46\00:16:24.40 the side of the mountains Priene was sacked 00:16:24.40\00:16:27.16 by Ardys of Lydia in the 7th Century B.C. 00:16:27.16\00:16:30.13 but regained its prosperity in the 8th Century. 00:16:30.13\00:16:33.90 Captured by the generals 00:16:33.90\00:16:34.96 of the Persian King Cyrus around 540 B.C., 00:16:34.96\00:16:38.66 Priene took part in several revolts against the Persians. 00:16:38.66\00:16:42.36 The city was subject to the Persians 00:16:42.36\00:16:44.06 until the time of Alexander the Great. 00:16:44.06\00:16:47.86 The population of Priene was limited and probably 00:16:47.86\00:16:50.36 never exceeded 5,000. 00:16:50.36\00:16:52.83 This was due in part to its cliff side location. 00:16:52.83\00:16:55.96 Priene is not mentioned in the Bible 00:16:55.96\00:16:57.53 but it is likely that the early Christians of Miletus 00:16:57.53\00:17:00.30 had contact with this city. 00:17:00.30\00:17:03.16 It had a substantial Christian community 00:17:03.16\00:17:05.16 during the Byzantine period 00:17:05.16\00:17:06.60 and was the seat of the bishop. 00:17:06.60\00:17:09.06 From the acropolis you can see 00:17:09.06\00:17:10.36 across the plains to Miletus. 00:17:10.36\00:17:13.70 Because of the silting end by the Meander River 00:17:13.70\00:17:16.06 the area is now rich farmland. 00:17:16.06\00:17:18.43 These two Ionians cities once separated 00:17:18.43\00:17:20.83 by the Aegean Sea are now a major source 00:17:20.83\00:17:23.63 of produce in the area. 00:17:23.63\00:17:27.60 The evolution of the land reclaimed by the sea somewhat 00:17:27.60\00:17:30.40 argue is additional proof of Darwin's theory of evolution. 00:17:30.40\00:17:34.60 Other see it is as the earth is creating 00:17:34.60\00:17:36.40 new land as designed by the creator. 00:17:36.40\00:17:39.23 Through the radio wave of AWR God is reaching 00:17:39.56\00:17:42.20 people around the world. 00:17:42.20\00:17:45.40 We would like to offer you an addition of Making Wave. 00:17:45.40\00:17:47.90 Its four of our 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of hope from Adventist World Radio. 00:18:42.06\00:18:46.30 My name is Benjamin Schoun 00:18:46.30\00:18:47.76 and I'm the president of Adventist World Radio. 00:18:47.76\00:18:50.36 Let me tell you about our work in Vietnam. 00:18:50.36\00:18:52.70 The communist country where Christianity is severely 00:18:52.70\00:18:55.73 controlled and public evangelism is outlawed. 00:18:55.73\00:18:59.10 However programs broadcast by Adventist World Radio 00:18:59.10\00:19:02.36 effortlessly reach Vietnam and large numbers 00:19:02.36\00:19:05.60 of people listen secretly to our message of hope. 00:19:05.60\00:19:08.80 Many of these people risk arrest and severe punishment 00:19:08.80\00:19:12.00 together in small house churches to listen 00:19:12.00\00:19:14.86 to the programs called "Peace and Happiness." 00:19:14.86\00:19:17.46 These groups continually send us letters 00:19:17.46\00:19:19.90 asking how to bring others to Christ. 00:19:19.90\00:19:22.66 Time and again we are encouraged by making contact 00:19:22.66\00:19:25.90 with another group of believers 00:19:25.90\00:19:27.36 brought to Christ through the radio. 00:19:27.36\00:19:29.53 Adventist World Radio shares the hope of Christ 00:19:29.53\00:19:34.56 with millions of people everyday. 00:19:34.56\00:19:37.03 For more information visit awr.org. 00:19:37.03\00:19:41.20 Ben, I can look all the way out to the sea 00:19:43.83\00:19:46.10 and I understated that Patmos is not too far from here. 00:19:46.10\00:19:49.90 Yes, a few miles out, it's the island of Patmos. 00:19:49.90\00:19:53.66 It's a quaint and beautiful island really. 00:19:53.66\00:19:57.03 But it was a prison for John. 00:19:57.03\00:20:00.10 John was sent there. 00:20:00.10\00:20:02.20 The isolation with the sea all around prevented 00:20:02.20\00:20:06.56 him from having contact with anyone else. 00:20:06.56\00:20:09.86 Praise the Lord, he wasn't in exile forever. 00:20:09.86\00:20:12.06 Yes, Came back here to apparently 00:20:12.06\00:20:14.20 the place where we are now. 00:20:14.20\00:20:16.16 Yes, these little old city of Ephesus is nearby 00:20:16.16\00:20:20.66 and that's the place were John spent many, many years. 00:20:20.66\00:20:24.50 He was actually the pastor of Ephesus. 00:20:24.50\00:20:27.30 Really, I never knew that. 00:20:27.30\00:20:29.83 Well, John was known as the apostle of love 00:20:29.83\00:20:33.63 and his gospel is a little different than the others. 00:20:33.63\00:20:36.70 It is, the three gospels Matthew, 00:20:36.70\00:20:39.23 Mark and Luke are more narrative in story. 00:20:39.23\00:20:43.00 John's is more theological. 00:20:43.00\00:20:45.26 He talks about faith and the Holy Spirit 00:20:45.26\00:20:48.16 and love and in all of his writings 00:20:48.16\00:20:51.40 the theme of love seems to come through. 00:20:51.40\00:20:54.26 And I love the way he was so humble in his writing. 00:20:54.26\00:20:56.56 He never referred to himself, only the one Jesus love-- 00:20:56.56\00:21:01.13 Yes. Always diverted attention away from himself. 00:21:01.13\00:21:04.43 That's right. 00:21:04.43\00:21:06.13 To think that this could be the place 00:21:06.13\00:21:08.43 John is buried you think all the history 00:21:08.43\00:21:10.90 here it's, it's moving. 00:21:10.90\00:21:14.00 John is a disciple that I like. 00:21:14.00\00:21:16.50 I like his spirit. 00:21:16.50\00:21:18.03 He was a gentle person and had such concern for people. 00:21:18.03\00:21:24.33 This actually is basilica that was built a little later 00:21:24.33\00:21:29.13 in honor of the Apostle John. 00:21:29.13\00:21:31.56 And so it's a huge complex here. 00:21:31.56\00:21:34.30 It seem like they always built a church 00:21:34.30\00:21:36.16 over every good location. 00:21:36.16\00:21:38.10 Yes, that's right. I was told, Ben, 00:21:38.10\00:21:41.06 this place was built in about the 6th Century. 00:21:41.06\00:21:44.06 Yeah, that's what I've heard too. 00:21:44.06\00:21:45.73 And look they have a baptistery here. 00:21:45.73\00:21:49.00 And it's not just a fountain for sprinkling. 00:21:49.00\00:21:51.80 It's one where you get right in. 00:21:51.80\00:21:54.86 I remember seeing an old artwork 00:21:54.86\00:21:57.73 pictures of baptisteries 00:21:57.73\00:21:59.13 where people--they did it a little different. 00:21:59.13\00:22:00.80 Let's go down and see what it's like. 00:22:00.80\00:22:05.50 When they baptize, often they would just crouch down. 00:22:05.50\00:22:09.50 Looks awfully tiny in here. 00:22:09.50\00:22:10.76 It does but they would get their head under 00:22:10.76\00:22:13.70 the water like this. 00:22:13.70\00:22:15.56 And you know, the reason for immersion 00:22:15.56\00:22:18.30 is the significance of it. 00:22:18.30\00:22:22.20 It symbolizes a death, being buried under water 00:22:22.20\00:22:26.70 and then coming up out of the water like 00:22:26.70\00:22:28.86 a new resurrection into a new life in Christ. 00:22:28.86\00:22:32.56 And a witness to those around 00:22:32.56\00:22:33.96 that your life has been changed also. 00:22:33.96\00:22:35.70 And further more the water symbolizes 00:22:35.70\00:22:37.80 washing or cleansing from sin. 00:22:37.80\00:22:40.56 So there is a lot of symbols connected 00:22:40.56\00:22:42.53 with baptism by emersion. 00:22:42.53\00:22:44.76 And you know every one of our stories 00:22:44.76\00:22:47.63 that we've had throughout this entire series 00:22:47.63\00:22:50.23 on "Making Waves" has gone through this experience. 00:22:50.23\00:22:53.73 That's right, that's right. 00:22:53.73\00:22:54.96 God is, God is doing mighty 00:22:54.96\00:22:56.10 things through the ministry. 00:22:56.10\00:22:57.16 Ben, that's what is exciting to me. That's right. 00:22:57.16\00:22:59.20 In fact that's why part of the reason we chose 00:22:59.20\00:23:01.43 this name because we make waves 00:23:01.43\00:23:04.03 when we lay people in the water. 00:23:04.03\00:23:06.53 Perfect thing, then they are part 00:23:06.53\00:23:07.76 of the family of God. 00:23:07.76\00:23:09.66 Amen, amen. 00:23:09.66\00:23:15.36 Andrey, if have you had the opportunity 00:23:15.36\00:23:17.26 to share, what you believe about Jesus Christ 00:23:17.26\00:23:20.53 to the whole world? 00:23:20.53\00:23:23.23 What would you share? 00:23:23.23\00:23:24.33 What would you tell everybody right now? 00:23:24.33\00:23:26.76 Christian or non-Christian. 00:23:26.76\00:23:29.63 Nonbelievers-- foreign language 00:23:29.63\00:23:32.10 Because, because you're an atheist-- 00:23:32.10\00:23:33.70 foreign language 00:23:33.70\00:23:35.40 And now you are a Christian. 00:23:35.40\00:23:37.50 What do you tell all those who don't believe in Christ? 00:23:37.50\00:23:40.53 foreign language 00:23:40.53\00:23:43.70 To just pay a little attention. 00:23:43.70\00:23:45.76 To dig into the situation. 00:23:45.76\00:23:47.93 foreign language 00:23:47.93\00:23:52.20 Try to find God and you'll see what happens. 00:23:52.20\00:23:56.33 foreign language 00:23:56.33\00:23:59.33 God will answer your prayers and He will bring hope 00:23:59.33\00:24:02.50 and He will help you solve your problems. 00:24:02.50\00:24:05.26 Amen, I'm gonna ask you one more question. 00:24:05.26\00:24:10.30 Because it was the, the message of creation 00:24:10.30\00:24:14.56 that touched you. 00:24:14.56\00:24:16.06 What if somebody else out there 00:24:16.06\00:24:18.10 is kind of wondering well, 00:24:18.10\00:24:20.53 you know, I look at evolution, 00:24:20.53\00:24:22.26 I look at creation, why believe in creation? 00:24:22.26\00:24:25.66 foreign language 00:24:25.66\00:24:30.60 It's better known and compared to evolution. 00:24:30.60\00:24:33.23 foreign language 00:24:33.23\00:24:41.53 Even Darwin himself wasn't sure and questioned 00:24:41.53\00:24:44.96 his own theory. 00:24:44.96\00:24:46.53 foreign language 00:24:46.53\00:24:53.76 It was his partners and students who added things 00:24:53.76\00:24:56.76 and made things up. 00:24:56.76\00:24:58.56 This wasn't a solid theory. 00:24:58.56\00:25:03.33 You know, Andrey, it's I guess about 9 o'clock here, 00:25:03.33\00:25:06.60 sun goes down very late in summer in Russia 00:25:06.60\00:25:09.20 I didn't believe that till I saw it, 00:25:09.20\00:25:11.83 but I understand the ladies have got a meal for us. 00:25:11.83\00:25:14.53 Shall we go and have a meal? 00:25:14.53\00:25:15.53 foreign language 00:25:15.53\00:25:16.56 And I think your testimony is going to change 00:25:16.56\00:25:19.53 many lives for the Lord. 00:25:19.53\00:25:22.33 Thank God, Praise the Lord. Halleluiah, Praise the Lord. 00:25:22.33\00:25:25.30 Thank you, brother. 00:25:25.30\00:25:26.70 Thank you so much. 00:25:26.70\00:25:28.20 I am standing here in the Garden of Gethsemane 00:25:34.40\00:25:37.56 and behind me this huge olive tree, very old, 00:25:37.56\00:25:42.10 a magnificent example of God's creation. 00:25:42.10\00:25:45.40 And then we have the flowers around and the birds flying 00:25:45.40\00:25:48.70 and the animals and then God's crowning work 00:25:48.70\00:25:51.46 the creation of human beings. 00:25:51.46\00:25:54.30 Few of us realize just how central 00:25:54.30\00:25:57.53 the doctrine of creation is to all that we believe. 00:25:57.53\00:26:02.86 In fact for Andrey it was these things 00:26:02.86\00:26:05.26 that caught his attention and changed 00:26:05.26\00:26:08.00 him from an atheist to a believer. 00:26:08.00\00:26:11.10 When Andrey began to believe in the creator God 00:26:11.10\00:26:15.30 miracles began to happen in his life. 00:26:15.30\00:26:19.36 His prayers were answered. 00:26:19.36\00:26:22.10 His habits began to change. 00:26:22.10\00:26:25.40 A creator God is a powerful God. 00:26:25.40\00:26:28.36 And God's power is what transforms our lives. 00:26:28.36\00:26:32.50 Even in these last days the Book of Revelation 00:26:32.50\00:26:35.56 in the first angel's message Chapter 14 and verse 7, 00:26:35.56\00:26:39.23 it encourages us to again worship the God 00:26:39.23\00:26:43.03 who created the heavens, the earth, the sea, 00:26:43.03\00:26:45.86 and the fountains of water. 00:26:45.86\00:26:47.86 It was the "Voice of Hope" radio program 00:26:47.86\00:26:50.36 where Andrey first learned about creation 00:26:50.36\00:26:53.60 and the Creator God. 00:26:53.60\00:26:55.50 In his own words he said, 00:26:55.50\00:26:57.40 "The concept of creation has harmony and it's logical." 00:26:57.40\00:27:02.56 You can help AWR give this message to thousands 00:27:02.56\00:27:07.03 more people in this world. 00:27:07.03\00:27:08.80 Almost every place in the world 00:27:10.10\00:27:12.36 AWR is reaching people for Jesus Christ. 00:27:12.36\00:27:15.73 I hope you'll join us give us a call today 1-866-503-3531. 00:27:15.73\00:27:22.23 Or you can write us at 12501 Old Columbia Pike, 00:27:22.23\00:27:26.30 Silver Spring, Maryland 20904. 00:27:26.30\00:27:29.90 Or long on to the website at www.awr.org 00:27:29.90\00:27:35.80 Thank you for watching. 00:27:35.80\00:27:37.46 Please join us again for another exciting 00:27:37.46\00:27:39.53 gospel adventure because around the world 00:27:39.53\00:27:42.10 AWR is making waves. 00:27:42.10\00:27:44.10