Making Waves

Ephesus - Lidia Glyadeshina

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Participants: Jim Ayer

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00:01 The things I once hated, I now love.
00:03 And the things I once loved, I now hate.
00:05 Interesting words from the Apostle Paul,
00:07 but can those changes really occur
00:09 in a person's life?
00:10 Stay tuned, you'll find out.
00:48 The Apostle Paul sailed the Aegean Sea,
00:50 landed here at Ephesus.
00:52 It's long since silted in because of so many years,
00:55 but this was the harbor, this was the area
00:57 that all the sailors and the Apostle Paul walked up
01:01 these areas here amongst these columns.
01:03 Why did he come?
01:04 I believe he came because
01:05 this was a Seatown, a town that people
01:08 from all over the world came to.
01:10 And Paul was no dummy, he understood that
01:12 if he shared the gospel of Jesus Christ here,
01:15 it would go to all the world.
01:17 And certainly, Paul made a stir here in this area.
01:33 The Grand Amphitheater of the Ephesians,
01:36 a place that held, 23,000- 24,000 people.
01:41 Imagine, they would come out here
01:43 on a regular basis and at this time
01:45 to hear the Greek plays,
01:47 because the Greeks controled the whole area.
01:49 The Greeks built this as their theater for their arts,
01:53 for their enjoyment, for the plays,
01:54 but then something different happened,
01:56 the Romans took over.
01:57 The Romans beat them back, and now under Roman control,
02:01 they take out the first group of seats, why?
02:03 So they can have gladiator games.
02:05 They need an area to place the tigers
02:07 and the lions and all of the other things
02:09 that would actually devour people of all things.
02:13 But then something very interesting occurred,
02:16 the Apostle Paul came to town one day,
02:18 the little Roman, the intelligent little Roman,
02:21 he began talking with people.
02:23 And soon Demetrius, we're told
02:25 in the Book of Acts is not happy,
02:27 because you see Demetrius is a silversmith.
02:31 And the trade is having problems because
02:34 Paul is preaching against all the other Gods so much,
02:37 so much that now their money,
02:40 their monitory situation is going down, down, down
02:44 because nobody is buying Gods any longer for their home.
02:48 What happens?
02:49 Demetrius comes here, calls everybody from the city
02:52 and begins complaining and shouting
02:53 to all of these people, who by the way,
02:56 from right down here
02:57 the person in the farthest row
02:59 can hear your voice perfectly.
03:02 And I just imagine Demetrius standing here
03:04 and yelling at the Apostle Paul saying,
03:06 we need to do something about this man,
03:08 we've got to do something.
03:11 And soon they take a hold of Paul,
03:13 and they're ready to tear him apart,
03:15 ready to tear him apart, but God intervenes
03:18 and finally, a little difference away
03:20 they take him to a prison, where Paul literally raised
03:23 the roof with his singing.
03:30 The history of Ephesus began
03:32 in the Mid-seventh Century BC.
03:34 It was attacked by Samarians, but unlike
03:36 its neighbor Magnesia, Ephesus survived the attack.
03:40 For a while it was ruled by tyrants,
03:42 allied by marriage to the King of Lydia
03:44 and was conquered by Croesus,
03:46 who rebuilt the Temple of Artemis,
03:48 bringing in many large columns
03:49 and golden calves for the temple.
03:51 Ephesus was not only the most magnificent,
03:54 but the most corrupt of the cities of Asia.
03:57 Superstition and sensual pleasure held
03:59 its way over her teaming population,
04:01 under the shadow of her temples,
04:03 criminals of every grade found shelter.
04:05 And the most degrading vices flourished.
04:08 It's so incredible to open the word of God.
04:12 To read in the Book of Acts, the Book of Ephesians
04:14 and realize I'm standing in the very places,
04:18 the very location where the Apostle Paul
04:21 preached so many sermons,
04:22 where he labored for the word of God.
04:24 The giant of God himself walked down the street,
04:28 went down to the harbor
04:29 to where all the fisherman work,
04:31 watch them offload their catches,
04:33 talked with these men.
04:35 Two hundred and fifty thousand people
04:37 lived in the city and soon
04:39 because of Paul's work in Acts 19 Verse 20 it says,
04:42 "So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed."
04:46 Because of Paul, because of Paul's relationship with God,
04:50 he spread the word throughout Ephesus.
04:52 He raised up a church, he raised up a work
04:54 that spreads throughout the world. Wow!
04:59 One can only get a taste of the former glory
05:01 by looking around that the pieces of pillars
05:03 that lie in this main thoroughfare.
05:07 The area from the library to town,
05:09 or from the theater back up this way to the library,
05:14 it's all marble, you can see slight tracks
05:17 from the Roman chariots.
05:19 What's most interesting to me however
05:21 is that they had a drainage system here,
05:23 so when the rains came,
05:24 it all dropped into the sewerage system.
05:27 Credible ingenuity by the Romans.
05:36 We're forever tempted to think that these people
05:39 were not extremely intelligent
05:41 in how they constructed and what they constructed.
05:45 This library right behind me should remove all doubt.
05:48 These people did a marvelous job,
05:50 a beautiful and exquisite job.
05:52 However, this library
05:54 only lasted for about 40 years.
05:56 It was destroyed by earthquakes.
05:58 And it was rebuilt in the 1970s,
06:00 originally from the Second century however,
06:02 it housed a great deal of knowledge
06:05 of the then known world.
06:07 It was about the third largest library
06:09 in existence at that time.
06:11 Below it we're told there just a little peep hole,
06:14 but supposedly the governor is buried down there,
06:17 that existed earlier during that time.
06:22 The building may be considered
06:23 important today because it is one
06:25 of the few remained examples
06:27 of an ancient Roman influence library.
06:30 It also shows how public libraries
06:32 were not only built in Rome itself,
06:34 but also throughout the empire.
06:37 The people that constructed this library
06:39 were so intelligent about the design
06:41 that they actually created a doubled-wall system
06:43 in order to eliminate humidity.
06:45 Not only that, but they created a roof design
06:48 that eliminated all the elements
06:50 but allowed in the most white,
06:52 that people might still be able to read.
06:54 Now that's intelligent.
06:57 The Library of Celsus was built
06:59 to store 12,000 scrolls
07:01 and it serves a monumental tomb to Celsus.
07:04 It was unusual to be buried within a library
07:06 or even within city limits.
07:09 So this was a special honor for Celsus.
07:13 I'm told this is the place where the Governor's buried.
07:15 How do they know that?
07:16 Well, some years ago,
07:17 I guess they took mirrors and they put them
07:19 way over the edge to check it out
07:21 and they could actually see some type of casket
07:24 or coffin or sarcophagus down there.
07:27 But over the years it's kind of caved in so,
07:30 this is all we get is a hole now,
07:31 I guess and I belief that, that's where it is.
07:46 Well, I spend some time this afternoon
07:48 jostling elbow to elbow in the market
07:50 with 20,000 or 30,000 people it seems.
07:53 I've got my spices,
07:55 I've got my linens for my wife.
07:57 I got the fish that were just delivered
07:59 right from the ocean fresh.
08:00 And now I think I'll go check out the library.
08:03 Well, at least, that's my active imagination
08:06 for what it must have been like at the time.
08:10 Right behind me here is the market place
08:12 of the great city of Ephesus.
08:14 People from all over brought their wares
08:16 from the then known Roman Empire.
08:18 Spices and various things to trade.
08:21 I can imagine now Apostle Paul
08:23 walking through from stall to stall.
08:25 Pointing these Romans to the one and only true God,
08:28 Jesus Christ. What a scene?
08:31 What a time in our history?
08:33 The roots of Christianity growing up right here.
08:39 As a communist, she thought that
08:40 there just must be more to life than this.
08:43 But what was it?
08:44 Jesus told the Ephesians to persevere
08:48 and that's exactly what she did.
08:50 She persevered until she found
08:52 that loving relationship with Jesus Christ.
08:55 Stay tuned to find out more.
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10:59 So, your name is Lidia.
11:01 Foreign language
11:02 Lidia, what type of work do you do or did you do?
11:05 Foreign language
11:18 I was a stay at home mother,
11:20 and did the work around the house
11:22 and I have two children.
11:24 Foreign language
11:28 My job was the family, house, and children.
11:31 I was interested in Bible.
11:33 My grandparents was Christians.
11:37 Foreign language
11:39 My grandfather had a Bible.
11:41 When I was a little girl, I looked at the Bible,
11:45 it was such a large book with the big letters.
11:49 Foreign language
11:53 My grandparents always prayed for me
11:56 and I think that is why I was interested in Bible.
12:03 I have always been interested in religious radio programs.
12:07 I listened to anything that spoke about God,
12:11 even Muslim programs.
12:13 Foreign language
12:22 So you always had this desire from young person
12:26 to get, know more about religion.
12:30 Foreign language
12:33 So how long was your search?
12:36 Foreign language
12:40 I was trying to read the Bible,
12:41 but we move to Novomoskovsk and the Bible stayed
12:45 with my grandparents in the Khalkhas.
12:49 So we had no Bible to read and we forgot all about it.
12:56 So you did your searching started out
12:58 during the time of communism?
13:01 Yes, during that time it was forbidden
13:05 to have a Bible in the house.
13:07 We found a really old and tattered Bible.
13:10 Somebody had given it to my parents.
13:13 We were afraid to show it to anyone.
13:16 We weren't really interested in reading it at that time.
13:21 It's hard for me to imagine
13:22 that reading the Bible is a hard thing to do
13:25 or a dangerous thing to do.
13:27 Can you tell me a little more about that?
13:30 Where did you go, how did you find the Bible
13:32 or study or do anything like that?
13:37 Yes, we were trying to read the Bible,
13:40 but if anyone knocked at the door,
13:42 we would quickly hide the Bible.
13:44 So no one would know what we were doing.
13:54 Immediately behind me is where they kept the lions.
13:57 The lions for what you ask, well,
13:59 what concerns me is the lions for the Christians,
14:02 because the Christians died for their faiths,
14:04 on this spot.
14:07 It's hard to imagine that the Christians
14:11 who would not give allegiance to another God,
14:14 stood here on this location
14:17 and they let the lions right out of that area
14:20 and they were very hungry lions
14:22 and these people died for their faith in Jesus Christ.
14:24 But the good news is, it's only momentary,
14:29 because the Bible says, O death,
14:30 where is thy sting?
14:31 O grave, where is thy victory?
14:33 There is a home waiting for those people soon
14:36 when Jesus Christ return.
14:39 He's waiting for you and me too,
14:41 to give our hearts and life fully to Him,
14:43 fully to Him.
14:44 We'll have the courage and the strength
14:46 to follow him every moment of everyday.
14:55 We're not exactly sure who came through the corridor,
14:57 whether it was the lions or the Christians.
15:00 But one thing is for certain,
15:02 the outcome was always the same.
15:11 A few miles out it's the Island of Patmos,
15:14 it's a quaint and beautiful island really.
15:18 But it was a prison for John
15:21 and on the island as you go up the hill,
15:24 and there's a cave there and they think
15:26 that that's where the Apostle John stayed
15:30 and probably had a lot of meditative time
15:34 and quite time to write the Book of Revelation.
15:38 But Praise the Lord, he wasn't exiled forever.
15:40 Yes. Came back here to, apparently,
15:43 the place where we are now. Yes.
15:46 This little old city of Ephesus is nearby
15:49 and that's the place where John spent many, many years.
15:53 He was actually the pastor of Ephesus.
15:56 Really? I never knew that.
15:58 Of the church there in Ephesus. Okay, okay.
16:01 And he, he is a unique disciple of Jesus.
16:05 He was at that time one of the younger ones.
16:10 Peter was an older person
16:12 and I think of the time
16:14 when just before the resurrection,
16:17 or at the time of the resurrection,
16:19 they were running to the tomb and John ran,
16:23 but Peter was having a hard time
16:25 keeping up with him,
16:27 but John respectfully waited until Peter,
16:29 the elder one got there before they did anything.
16:32 I can almost start appreciating that nowadays.
16:34 Yes. Being behind just a little bit.
16:37 Well, John was known as the Apostle of love.
16:41 And his gospel is a little different than the others.
16:44 It is. The three gospels Matthew, Mark, and Luke
16:47 are more narrative in story.
16:50 John's is more theological.
16:52 He talks about faith and the Holy Spirit
16:56 and love and in all of his writings
16:59 that theme of love seems to come through.
17:02 And I love the way he was so humble in his writings,
17:04 he never referred to himself,
17:06 only the one Jesus loved or-- Yes.
17:09 Always diverted attention away from himself.
17:12 That's right.
17:13 Now, John, John was also a person
17:17 that lived the longest.
17:20 He was, it was almost to the end
17:23 of the first century before he died.
17:26 Of course he spent many years on Patmos in exile,
17:30 but apparently after that exile
17:33 he was able to come back here to Ephesus
17:36 and to this area.
17:37 And apparently it seemed liked
17:39 he lived down his life here
17:40 and then actually the tomb is up over here,
17:42 what they say he's buried. Yes.
17:44 But this is a very sacred site to Catholics,
17:46 I know, because two popes have visited this area.
17:49 Yes. And also there is a place nearby here,
17:55 I understand, it is a place where Mary,
17:59 Jesus' mother lived and of course Jesus asked John
18:04 to take care of His mother,
18:06 when He was hanging on the cross.
18:07 That's right and of course John loving Jesus so much
18:10 would have done exactly that.
18:11 Apparently right through to the end.
18:14 To think that this could be the place John is buried,
18:17 you think of all the history here, it's, it's--
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19:24 It was much easier to listen to the radio.
19:28 We started to listen to the voice of hope.
19:31 I was really interested in voice of hope,
19:33 because it was the most simple and easy to understand
19:37 of all the Christian radio shows.
19:40 I sent a letter so I could learn more
19:43 and take the Bible correspondence course.
19:47 How did you ever find the AWR program?
19:50 It was by chance.
19:52 Tell me about that first time,
19:54 when you found it by chance?
19:55 Foreign language
19:59 I was so happy that we had the radio station.
20:03 It was a pleasure to listen,
20:05 I don't know how to explain it,
20:07 but it was so pleasant to listen
20:10 and learn more about Jesus
20:12 and I really wanted to learn more.
20:15 Foreign language
20:19 You said you accidentally came across the program
20:22 the first time but why didn't you keep the dial there,
20:24 what, what tweaked your interest to stay,
20:28 stay right there?
20:29 Foreign language
20:35 I was always interested in a program like this.
20:38 Foreign language
20:40 That's what feed my soul, it was like bread.
20:45 It was so nice, I was happy
20:47 to get something to feed myself.
20:51 It was so close to my heart.
20:54 Foreign language
20:59 So you wrote down the address,
21:02 you sent for the Bible lessons and then what?
21:06 Foreign language
21:10 I was really interested and was searching the Bible
21:13 to see if it was really right to keep Saturday.
21:17 I was attending the Orthodox Church
21:19 and I was asking the priest and the people
21:23 and even went to confession and ask about Saturday.
21:27 I felt like it was a big sin in my heart
21:30 because I wasn't keeping Saturday as the Sabbath.
21:35 Foreign language
21:40 The priest told me,
21:41 I forgive you all of your sins,
21:43 but I was waiting for more information
21:46 for the answer to my question,
21:49 but he didn't explain anything.
21:51 I was asking around about Saturday,
21:53 but no one was keeping Saturday as the Sabbath.
21:57 When I read the Bible and saw those words,
22:00 I started to keep the Sabbath myself.
22:02 Foreign language
22:07 But where did you get your first Bible?
22:10 Communism it was illegal, how did you get it?
22:13 My aunt sent us a Bible from Khalkhas.
22:16 This Bible belonged to some church.
22:18 My aunt was losing her sight and couldn't read anymore
22:22 because it has small letters,
22:25 so she sent the Bible to us
22:27 and we started reading this Bible.
22:38 Then you mentioned in the card,
22:39 then we didn't have time to finish it but a story about,
22:42 yes, Eusebius had shared it.
22:45 Yes, Eusebius is one of the early church historians
22:49 and he writes about the Apostle John
22:51 in one of his chapters.
22:53 He tells the story of how John had been away
22:56 from Ephesus for quite some time,
22:59 of the church that he founded here.
23:01 And when he came back to visit one time,
23:05 he discovered that one of the young man
23:08 that he personally had led to Christ had been following in
23:12 with bad company and had gone with them
23:15 and they had become bandits,
23:17 they wandered around in the hills here
23:20 and would attack travelers and so on.
23:23 And when he heard that this young man
23:25 had forsaken Christ,
23:27 then had gone off with this,
23:28 he could hardly contain himself.
23:31 And so as the story goes, though he was an old man,
23:34 gray haired, he took off climbing the hills,
23:39 looking all around to see if he could find this young man.
23:43 Well, when he got near the cave,
23:45 that of course the bandits had guards all around
23:48 and they took him prisoner and into the cave,
23:51 but the young man knew him
23:52 and told the guards that it was okay.
23:55 And the Apostle John, that apostle of love plead
24:00 with this young man to come back to Jesus Christ.
24:05 Why would he leave what he had learned,
24:07 and he just used every persuasion
24:11 that he could think of,
24:12 and finally what could the young man do,
24:15 but respond to his spiritual father,
24:18 the Apostle John,
24:20 and come back to the church of Ephesus with him.
24:23 And you know, that's such an example
24:26 of the Old Apostle, the Apostle of Love.
24:30 What an example for you and for me,
24:32 you know to never let a soul go. That's right.
24:34 Because it means eternal life or eternal love.
24:37 John was really serious about that,
24:39 he, too often I think we kind of let people drift away
24:44 and don't do anything about it,
24:45 but John was intense about maintaining
24:49 and keeping this young man in the fold. Amen.
24:58 In the second chapter, the Book of Revelation,
25:00 God specifically writes to the church here at Ephesus
25:04 "Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write,
25:07 these things saith he that holdeth the seven stars
25:09 in his right hand,
25:11 who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks.
25:14 I know thy works, and thy labor,
25:16 and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear with them
25:20 which are evil."
25:21 And he goes on to say.
25:22 "Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee,
25:26 because thou hast left thy first love.
25:29 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen,
25:31 and repent, and do thy first works
25:33 and here is the reward of those for doing
25:36 the first works To Him that overcometh,
25:39 will I give to eat of the tree of life,
25:42 which is in the midst of the paradise of God."
25:45 What an exciting point.
25:48 Since you found Jesus Christ now
25:50 and the fullness of His love,
25:52 what does that mean to you?
25:55 Foreign language
25:58 I'm really peaceful in my soul
26:00 and I hope that somebody will take care of me and help me.
26:05 Foreign language
26:09 Lidia, I want to thank you so much for sharing today
26:12 and being in the rain out here but still staying,
26:14 thank you so much. Thank you.
26:18 It's going to be fun to be with you in heaven.
26:20 Foreign language
26:25 In that Church of Ephesus,
26:27 so many years ago in New Testament times,
26:29 the Christians did have some challenges in their faith.
26:33 We've heard those stories as they've been repeated.
26:37 We also saw in today's program,
26:39 the story of Lidia in Russia.
26:42 Lidia was a person who all her life
26:44 had sought to learn more about the Christian faith.
26:47 The Apostle John in the Book of Revelation
26:50 wrote letters to the seven churches.
26:53 The first Church was Ephesus,
26:55 this place where we're standing right now
26:58 and the counsel that Jesus Christ gives
27:00 to the church of Ephesus.
27:02 Part of it says, I know that you have persevered,
27:06 even though you have suffered greatly for my name,
27:10 but you have not grown weary, Chapter 2 Verse 3.
27:14 That is the characteristic both of Lidia
27:17 and the people here in Ephesus.
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