A baby they could
have saved in Kinshasa.
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This quarter's 13th
Sabbath Offering projects
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and children worshiping
in a shipping container.
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All this and much
more coming up next.
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Hello and
welcome to Mission 360.
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I'm Gary Krause.
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Today's program is coming to you
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from the campus
of Andrews University
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in Michigan in
the United States.
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And directly behind me,
you can see this building,
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which is the
Adventist Theological Seminary.
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And in this building,
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you'll also find the
Department of World Mission.
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And here students are trained
in missiological principles
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that will help
us be more effective
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in working cross culturally.
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And that's what
Andrews University
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is all about, to
equip people, young people,
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older people to
be more effective
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in mission and service.
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And we'll be learning more
about Andrews on this program.
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But first up,
let's travel to the Congo
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and the mighty city of Kinshasa
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to see an
Adventist clinic in action.
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Each day at work,
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Badibanga makes sure
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the Kinshasa
Adventist Clinic is kept safe.
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He works as a security
guard for this compound
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in the Democratic Republic
of Congo's capital city.
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When he started working here,
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he didn't know much
about Adventist beliefs
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except what he heard
coming from the church
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also located on the compound
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as they held evening
meetings throughout the week.
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A few years ago,
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the clinic staff
started a small church plant.
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Many members
are former patients,
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doctors who came to
know Jesus at the clinic
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and people from the community.
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On Sabbath, the
church is full of praise
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and worship through
testimonies and music.
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The choir writes and
performs original songs.
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One day the church
pastor invited Badibanga
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to attend an upcoming campaign.
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So Badibanga decided to
see what it was all about.
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After the meetings,
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his mind was
overwhelmed with information.
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He was motivated to
study the Bible further.
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And before long,
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Badibanga accepted
the Adventist message
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and invited
Jesus into his heart.
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For me the
difference in my life is that
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I'm able to pray and
see the answers from God.
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So that's something
that has changed in my life.
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The Kinshasa Adventist Clinic
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aims to meet the needs of people
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in the community
through Christ's method.
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The clinic meets physical needs
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with a team of
doctors and nurses
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while staff assessed
patients' spiritual needs.
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People come to this
clinic with a number of symptoms
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and illnesses ranging
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from malaria to
pregnancy complications.
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Frank and Nikki
rushed into the clinic
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when Nikki was
bleeding for unknown reasons.
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The expectant parents
knew their baby wasn't due yet.
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Doctors and
nurses tried everything
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but they couldn't
figure out what was wrong.
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The medical staff
gathered around Nikki and prayed
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for the Holy
Spirit's intervention.
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Right after the
prayer, one of the doctors
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was able to detect the problem
and rushed her to surgery.
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But because of a
lack of equipment,
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they began surgery
without anesthesia.
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They had to
sterilize the instruments
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with rubbing
alcohol in a small flame.
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Unfortunately,
they lost the baby
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during surgery and
almost lost Nikki too.
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It was a miracle that
she survived the incident.
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Doctors prayed over her again.
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And we're certain that
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she would get an
infection in the coming weeks.
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But after 10 days,
there was no sign of infection
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and Nikki made a fast recovery.
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As I'm leaving today,
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I'm thankful to God
because He assisted me.
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He came to secure me.
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I did not think that
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I would be able to talk
to people about my story.
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The impact of this
event changed their lives.
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Frank and Nikki are
now Adventist members
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and attend the church
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on the clinic's
compound every week.
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If the clinic had
the proper equipment,
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it's possible the baby
could have survived too.
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The staff is qualified to
provide top quality service
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but unfortunately,
they need instruments,
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beds and general materials
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to vastly improve the
services they provide,
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especially for
expectant mothers.
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I'm asking to make a
call to the world church.
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I want you to tell them
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that this
clinic needs their help
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in terms of equipment.
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We need a lot of help.
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And if we can have
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the equipment
required in this clinic,
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we will be the
best clinic in Kinshasa.
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Doctors, nurses and the staff
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at the Kinshasa Adventist Clinic
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pray for the Lord to use
them to further His mission.
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This quarter, a portion
of your 13th Sabbath Offering
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will help expand and improve
the clinic's health services
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here in the
Democratic Republic of Congo.
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Please pray and consider
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how you can
contribute to this cause.
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Thank you for supporting
the 13th Sabbath offering.
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We're on the campus
of Andrews University
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and my guest is
a graduate student,
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Daniel Duffis.
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And Daniel, among other things,
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is doing a
dissertation on urban ministry.
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And it's good to have
you join us today, Daniel.
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It's a pleasure to be here.
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Now, we talked a little
bit before this interview
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and you have a
fascinating background.
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Give us a brief
overview of where you began
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and what you've been doing?
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Right, right.
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So my parents are from
the island of San Andres.
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It is a Colombian island
off the coast of Nicaragua.
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On the island they
speak English and Spanish.
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And so my dad
was a pastor there,
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and I was born in that island.
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But when I was
about one year of age,
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they were called
to be missionaries
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on the island of
Curacao in the Dutch Caribbean.
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So I grew up
speaking English at home,
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up here meant to
the local language
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there in Curacao and
also studied in Dutch.
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And so I've always had
a very unique background
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in terms of
being able to connect
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with people from
different cultures.
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And there on the island,
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we worked a lot
with Venezuelan refugees
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that were coming
since the island is close
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to the coast of Venezuela.
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After this, I moved
to the US after 18 years,
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and studied graphic design.
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But after two years, I
felt a bit of an emptiness,
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something was calling me
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and I decided to
become a minister.
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So I was, I went to
Puerto Rico to study.
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There I learned Spanish,
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worked as a
pastor there as well.
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And now I'm here
in the United States.
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Fantastic.
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Now, what made you decide
to do a PhD here at Andrews?
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Well, I never
thought I would do a PhD.
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But one of my
professors approached me,
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Dr. Kuhn, when I
was finishing my MDiv.
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And he told me that
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I had a
fascinating background, almost,
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I was a person that
was easily able to adapt
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to different cultures.
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And so he told me that
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it will be good for me
to look into doing a PhD.
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In that way,
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I will be able
to help the church
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in a very unique way.
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So that is what
got me to doing my PhD.
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Interesting.
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Now, you're not just
studying at the moment,
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you're also
helping pastor a church.
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Tell me about that? Right.
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So right now I work
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with a Korean community
in Queens, in New York,
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and I work with
second and third generations
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Koreans in an urban setting.
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And so every week I fly there.
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That's another
story I have to tell.
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But I go there every weekend
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so that I can help them to learn
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how to work with
postmodern individuals
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there in that
urban setting, yeah.
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It must be a
fascinating ministry
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because these young
people are sort of like
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one foot in their
traditional Korean culture
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then the other foot
they're here in America
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in an urban setting?
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Many challenges
for these young people?
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Yes.
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As myself, I grew up
as a church culture kid.
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So I understand that
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as a Korean
American here in America,
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the Koreans often
struggle with their identity.
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Koreans are very
collectivist in their thinking.
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They oftentimes try to do
things together as a family.
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But the American culture is
very individualistic, right?
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And so when Korean American
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tries to stay
loyal to their family,
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but at the same time,
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feel as part of the
community here in America,
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it brings a lot of
conflict within themselves
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of which culture
they're going to portray
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as they are living.
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So I do see that a lot
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when I'm working with my friends
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there in that community.
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Yeah.
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Now, the
dissertation that you're doing
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for your PhD ties
into urban ministry.
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Tell me about that?
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So I'm looking at consumerism,
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and how that
impacts spirituality
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in urban settings.
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Consumerism can be
defined as a way of life
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where one tries
to identify oneself
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with the
possessions that one has.
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And so, in the church
we're seeing right now
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that many individuals,
they often go to church,
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not because they
are faithful to God
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or committed to the
religion that they're following.
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But because going
to church gives them
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a particular
identity within the community
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where they are working with.
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And so being part of
a particular religion
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doesn't necessarily
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push you to
commit to the religion
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but you commit to what
people think about you.
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And so if that
particular religion is not
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or is not very famous
anymore or looked as high class,
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one can just walk away
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and find another
religion to form one's identity.
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I think that is fascinating.
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Interesting. Interesting. Yeah.
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So when you look at your...
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How long have you been
here on the campus now?
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I studied my
MDiv for three years.
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And now I've been back
for two years, so about five.
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So in your study,
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how do you see
this enriching yourself
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and equipping you for ministry?
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So here on campus, you are often
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connected with people
from different nationalities,
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different countries.
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And so you do see
how their worldview
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affects the way that
they experience reality.
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And so being here
with my classmates
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has really helped me to
be able to look at myself
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and see the biases that I
have of looking at the world.
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But it also helps me
to think more academically
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and critically
about the subjects
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that I'm studying.
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Oftentimes in mission
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we tend to
romanticize what we do.
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We think it's going to be
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a beautiful experience going out
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and confronting a new culture.
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But I think being
here has really helped me
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to look at the difficulties
that you have as well,
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and how you can tackle
that in a way that's healthy
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and that glorifies
God in the process.
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Yes, I think it's wonderful
how you're combining your study
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with still practical
work in ministry every week.
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So when you finish
here, do you have any goals,
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anything that you feel
that you would like to do?
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I do want to dedicate my
life as a long term missionary.
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And so I'm still
waiting for the exact place
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or part of the world
where God is calling me.
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I am studying other languages
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as well as French and
Arabic to get myself prepared.
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So the six languages
you speak is not sufficient.
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No. Okay.
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I want to be as efficient
as possible in God's work.
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And so I don't
have a particular place.
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But I do know I want
to work in urban settings.
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I'm very interested in
refugee ministries as well.
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So any place that God
calls me I'm prepared to work
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and to be helped
to the church and,
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and also to help other
people learn about Jesus
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in the process, yeah.
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Wonderful.
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So for people who
are maybe thinking
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about coming to Andrews
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to further their
knowledge to equip them better
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for mission, what
would you say to them?
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So I would say to them that
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mission needs to be
connected to education.
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If we don't value
the educational side of
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or the academic side
of looking at mission,
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we can often
make a lot of mistakes
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when we go out on the field.
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And so educating oneself
is actually a form of love
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towards those people
that we're trying to reach.
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And so anyone who's thinking
about going into mission,
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I think they should consider
coming to an academic setting,
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preparing
themselves in the best way
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so that they can
show the love of Christ
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to the world that's
waiting to hear about Him.
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Wonderful.
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Daniel, thank you so much
for sharing a little today
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of your
experience and God bless.
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Thank you. It was a blessing.
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Our viewers at
home, pray for Daniel,
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pray for other
students here who are preparing
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for mission, not
just theoretically
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but how they can put
into practice principles
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that they're learning here.
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We'll be right
back after this break.
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