Mission 360

She Asked God to Kill Her

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Series Code: MTS

Program Code: MTS002201A


00:18 Missionaries help improve a university in Mozambique,
00:21 a woman who lost two legs becomes a church planter,
00:25 and the story of two pioneer missionaries
00:27 in Cambodia
00:28 coming up next.
01:01 Hello and welcome to Mission 360.
01:02 I'm Gary Krause.
01:04 Today's program is coming to you
01:05 from Phnom Penh, Cambodia,
01:08 and I'm actually standing in a museum here
01:11 in Phnom Penh
01:12 that records documents
01:14 a very dark chapter in Cambodia's history.
01:18 That was the period of the Cambodian genocide
01:21 in between 1975 and 1979.
01:25 Different estimates,
01:27 but probably some 1.7 million people were killed
01:31 during that time.
01:32 And as you walk through this museum,
01:34 you go into the cells where people were detained.
01:37 Some of the thousands of photos of the Khmer Rouge
01:40 took of their victims are on display.
01:43 And as you look into the eyes of these people,
01:46 older people, young people, children,
01:49 it's just a record
01:51 of how dark the human soul can be
01:54 without the love of Jesus in dictating,
01:58 directing people's lives.
02:00 And that dark chapter is now
02:03 something that is in the distant past
02:04 in terms of young people today.
02:06 They weren't part of it,
02:08 but it's a history that cannot be forgotten.
02:11 And today we'll be talking more about
02:14 what has happened here in Cambodia.
02:15 We'll be talking about mission in Cambodia.
02:17 We'll be talking to Dr. and Mrs. Ng
02:19 who are missionaries here
02:20 and left about three weeks
02:22 before the Khmer Rouge took power.
02:24 First up,
02:25 let's meet some missionaries in Mozambique, Africa.
02:32 We are in front of Adventist University of Mozambique,
02:36 which is located Beira,
02:37 which is near the center of the country
02:40 and right of the sea.
02:41 The story of how we arrived in here
02:44 is interesting.
02:45 I was a geology professor in pharma,
02:48 the Adventist University of the Amazon
02:51 near Belem, Brazil.
02:53 Malu my wife was the educational coordinator
02:56 in the same institution.
02:57 We were very comfortable,
03:00 but then I received an email
03:02 inviting me to teach
03:03 at the Adventist University of Mozambique.
03:06 I was uncertain at first,
03:09 I had never thought about overseas mission.
03:12 What would it be like?
03:14 How would my family adjust?
03:16 Many things went through my mind,
03:19 but I had to share the news with my wife first.
03:22 When he told me about the email I responded,
03:25 "Really? Let's go. Let's go right away."
03:28 Malu's response caught Dr. Heraldo by surprise.
03:32 Part of him hoped
03:33 she would turn down the invitation,
03:35 but when she immediately accepted it,
03:37 he saw it as God's approval to go.
03:40 When they arrived,
03:41 the university campus was in decay
03:43 and the students and staff lacked
03:45 the most basic necessities like food.
03:48 This is a charcoal oven.
03:51 You put the charcoal below and the pan on top.
03:54 It is a typical oven in this nation.
03:57 One day I found a school worker cooking rice in a small pan
04:01 with a bit of cabbage on top.
04:04 I asked him
04:05 if that was his only meal for the day,
04:08 the man said,
04:09 "Yes, this is my only meal today."
04:12 So I asked him
04:14 if that was going to be enough to feed him.
04:16 And he said,
04:18 "Oh, no, this is not just for me.
04:20 It's for me and two other people.
04:23 Dr. Heraldo returned to his office in tears.
04:26 He and my Malu knew
04:27 the students couldn't study and learn on empty stomachs.
04:30 So they prayed together for God to provide.
04:33 He answered their prayer through a missionary
04:35 who donated funds to start a cafeteria.
04:38 Now the university serves daily meals
04:40 to students and staff.
04:52 Many other positive changes are happening
04:54 at the Adventist University of Mozambique.
04:57 New school buildings
04:58 and fields of study have been added.
04:59 And the student body has doubled in two years.
05:03 The campus church was dilapidated
05:04 and the roof leaked when it rained.
05:06 But now it has been renovated.
05:09 A new library was built and books were donated
05:12 and the university has now received
05:14 the highest level of accreditation
05:15 in Mozambique.
05:17 The faculty has also developed a mission institute
05:19 to equip students for mission and action.
05:23 After lunch on Sabbath,
05:24 the students come here to receive training.
05:27 Then they are divided into groups
05:29 to visit children, elderly,
05:32 former member of the Adventist Church
05:35 and the sick
05:36 given Bible studies as they go.
05:39 Visiting the surrounding area has greatly impacted both
05:44 the community and the lives of the students.
05:47 Some people we reach out to have already accepted Jesus
05:51 and were baptized.
05:53 In the previous year alone,
05:55 this program has strengthened the faith of many
05:57 even resulting in 17 baptisms.
05:59 And the excitement for mission continues to grow.
06:02 We aim to develop
06:04 a fully mission minded university
06:06 that prepares student
06:08 to fulfill God's mission for us.
06:12 God can use us even in simple ways.
06:15 God has used us
06:17 and we feel like we're making a difference here.
06:20 But there are still many challenges ahead.
06:22 Students and staff
06:23 at the Adventist University of Mozambique
06:25 now pray for funds
06:26 to expand the food and nutrition department
06:28 with a hands-on learning environment.
06:31 Their goal is to hold health expos,
06:33 so they can share the health message
06:34 with the community.
06:36 Please pray for cross-cultural missionaries
06:38 like Dr. Heraldo and Malu
06:40 who are serving in remote parts of the world.
06:43 Pray also for the goals
06:44 of the Adventist University of Mozambique.
06:46 And thank you for your support of Adventist Mission.
06:51 My guests are Dr. and Mrs. Ng.
06:53 And Dr. Ng is my boss,
06:55 and he's the secretary for the General Conference
06:57 of Seventh-day Adventists.
06:59 And Mrs. Ng works
07:00 for the Hope Channel International.
07:02 And thanks for joining us.
07:04 Now, for you, this is bit of sweet memories
07:07 coming back to Phnom Penh, Cambodia.
07:10 How does it feel like
07:11 to come back after all these years, Mrs. Ng?
07:14 This is the first time since we left in 1975
07:19 and I really feel so excited to come back,
07:22 you know, after so many years,
07:25 40 some years. Yeah.
07:26 And you came here as young missionaries from?
07:29 Yes.
07:30 We just finished our graduation
07:34 in November, 1972.
07:38 In Singapore. In Singapore.
07:39 And before graduating
07:42 the Southeast Asia Union
07:44 had already assigned us to go to Cambodia.
07:46 At that time,
07:48 the president of the union was Ralph Vas Jr.
07:52 When we first went to Cambodia,
07:55 we thought we must have done something wrong.
07:58 This is a punishment,
08:01 but a perceived punishment
08:04 turned out to be a great blessing to us,
08:06 you know, an experience we will not,
08:12 will not exchange for anything else.
08:14 Now you were trained as a pastor, right?
08:16 Yes.
08:17 And now they've trained you how to be a missionary?
08:20 Not really.
08:21 The curriculum
08:23 did not really cover a mission service,
08:26 mission training,
08:27 cross-cultural training as such.
08:29 In fact, the mission component was rather meeker.
08:34 Mission was not as emphasized as it should be,
08:39 you know, and we were brand new.
08:42 We did not know
08:43 what mission service was all about.
08:45 We were not IDE missionary or international employee,
08:51 missionaries send from the General Conference.
08:55 We were just interim missionary within a far Eastern division.
09:00 And we went there without mission institute,
09:03 without adequate training, without anyone instructing us,
09:07 what mission service was all about.
09:10 And I think,
09:12 for example, a group of people from the union
09:15 and from the church sent us off at the airport in Singapore.
09:19 You know, they were so happy to see off,
09:21 see us off only to find out
09:23 we did not have visa to go to the country.
09:25 A mere technicality.
09:27 And so we had to return to the school
09:33 where we were located
09:35 and a week or two later we applied visa.
09:37 Then off, we went again.
09:39 And, of course, this time,
09:40 the well-wishers were much fewer
09:44 than what it was before.
09:47 So the standard of living in Singapore was very different
09:50 to what you encountered when you came here?
09:51 What was it like when you arrived here?
09:53 How did you feel?
09:56 It was not too bad,
09:57 you know, we were young and ready to do some venturing.
10:02 Yes. Yeah.
10:04 The student missionaries told to us,
10:06 they say, we are preparing your honeymoon suite for you.
10:10 And honeymoon suite turned out to be an empty nest,
10:13 empty apartment,
10:15 but they were very kind,
10:16 they painted the whole apartment
10:18 in the Russian Information Center
10:20 on the top floor of a four-story building.
10:23 So we were very grateful for their warm welcome,
10:28 but it was a stark contrast to what life was in Singapore.
10:33 You know, we were spoiled
10:35 with all the conveniences in Singapore.
10:39 And Cambodia being a foreign country,
10:43 we did not quite know how to behave,
10:47 you know, and how to relate to people.
10:51 And the first assignment given by the union
10:54 was to study the Khmer language.
10:57 So this was an area where we make a lot of errors.
11:01 We had no language preparation whatsoever.
11:04 And so we merely hire elementary school teacher
11:10 to teach us Khmer.
11:12 And of course,
11:14 elementary school teacher did what he used to do.
11:18 And that is to use grade one textbook.
11:24 Memorize all the consonants and alphabets
11:27 of the Cambodian language,
11:29 which had its roots in Sanskrit.
11:33 You know, so it's extremely complicated language.
11:37 And so we memorize all, a lot of words,
11:41 memorize a lot of sentences, but we couldn't put them to use
11:46 because we could not communicate
11:49 when we went marketing and so on.
11:52 Only to find out later that
11:55 that was not the best way to study language.
11:58 And it was only months later, we discovered by chance,
12:03 a textbook published
12:05 by the State Department of the United States government
12:08 in which they train missionaries
12:11 within a short period of time, like three months
12:14 to speak the Khmer language
12:15 emphasizing only on conversation
12:19 and not on the vocabulary.
12:21 The aim was to build up your confidence,
12:23 to speak the language,
12:24 to be able to communicate with people, you know.
12:27 After that you learn the consonants,
12:29 the alphabets, the vocabulary and so on.
12:33 So we began to make headway after that.
12:35 Yeah.
12:37 How, how many church members were there
12:38 when you came?
12:40 There were very few of them, probably 17, 18 of them,
12:45 but we have good attendance.
12:47 Every Sabbath,
12:48 most of them came from the language school itself,
12:52 students from language school.
12:53 They relished coming to Sabbath school
12:56 and worship service
12:57 because they receive free English tuition,
13:00 so to speak.
13:02 So they got to practice their English.
13:06 They got to listen to English lectures.
13:10 And so the attendance was always good.
13:13 The chapel was always full.
13:15 Even Sabbath afternoon we had what we call the story hour,
13:20 making use of the 10 volume,
13:22 a Bible story written by Arthur Maxwell.
13:26 And that's where we got a lot of converts.
13:30 And so every few months we will have baptisms.
13:34 So when we had baptisms,
13:36 we had to go to the church by the presidential palace.
13:42 The baptistery was there
13:44 and it was a time of great rejoicing
13:47 when, before we left, we had 33 members.
13:50 Wonderful.
13:52 Well, thank you so much for joining us.
13:53 And we're going to be talking
13:55 a little bit later in the program.
13:56 We actually here at the genocide museum,
13:59 which commemorates
14:01 a very unfortunate time in Cambodia's history,
14:04 which actually began about three weeks
14:06 after the Ng's were evacuated out of Cambodia.
14:09 But we'll talk about that some more, a bit later.


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