Welcome back to Hong Kong. 00:00:03.93\00:00:05.57 Our very special guest is Elder Bob Folkenberg. 00:00:05.60\00:00:09.04 And, Bob, welcome to the program. 00:00:09.07\00:00:10.64 It's good to be here. 00:00:10.67\00:00:12.01 I have enjoyed very much 00:00:12.04\00:00:15.54 listening to the various reports 00:00:15.58\00:00:17.31 and the activities taking place in China. 00:00:17.35\00:00:19.68 You know, I remember back in 1975, 00:00:19.71\00:00:23.22 I first came to Hong Kong. Wow. 00:00:23.25\00:00:25.02 Took a train out, looked across the border 00:00:25.05\00:00:27.26 and what I saw 00:00:27.29\00:00:29.82 and thought then has changed a quite a bit from today. 00:00:29.86\00:00:32.69 What have you seen taking place in China for the gospel? 00:00:32.73\00:00:36.90 Well, you are mentioning the year 1975, 00:00:36.93\00:00:39.43 at that point we didn't know what God was doing in China. 00:00:39.47\00:00:42.54 And when we got to about 1980, 00:00:42.57\00:00:45.01 we began to start getting some reports 00:00:45.04\00:00:47.11 of what God had done, what He was doing. 00:00:47.14\00:00:49.81 And we found that He was working a miracle 00:00:49.84\00:00:51.98 during those very difficult times 00:00:52.01\00:00:53.52 in Chinese history. 00:00:53.55\00:00:54.88 When the church went basically underground in the late '49, 00:00:54.92\00:00:59.35 basically early '50s we only had 20,000, 21,000 members. 00:00:59.39\00:01:03.26 But in the '80s when we started getting reports, 00:01:03.29\00:01:05.83 we had over 200,000 members. 00:01:05.86\00:01:07.46 So as you were looking across... 00:01:07.50\00:01:08.90 Yes, God was still working. 00:01:08.93\00:01:10.47 He was still working in his special way 00:01:10.50\00:01:13.77 and since that time as China has opened up 00:01:13.80\00:01:16.67 and religious freedom has blossomed more, 00:01:16.71\00:01:19.64 we have now taken our membership over 400,000. 00:01:19.67\00:01:22.71 In fact 428,000 we praise the Lord. 00:01:22.74\00:01:25.18 Yeah, you know, 00:01:25.21\00:01:27.25 in addition to the blessing of the Holy Spirit 00:01:27.28\00:01:29.42 provides to make that happen. 00:01:29.45\00:01:31.29 What do you see as the key values 00:01:31.32\00:01:34.99 and the key components 00:01:35.02\00:01:38.09 of having that growth take place? 00:01:38.13\00:01:40.33 Well, I think that what you see clearly 00:01:40.36\00:01:42.70 especially from those years of persecution and difficulty 00:01:42.73\00:01:45.83 even up until now is strong member involvement. 00:01:45.87\00:01:48.90 Okay. 00:01:48.94\00:01:50.51 This is a lay laid church. 00:01:50.54\00:01:52.11 Out of 428,000 members, Elder Ryan, 00:01:52.14\00:01:56.04 we only have about 140 ordained ministers. 00:01:56.08\00:02:00.02 Okay, wow. 00:02:00.05\00:02:01.38 Only 140 and then we have all of these 00:02:01.42\00:02:03.89 other lay ministers that are working 00:02:03.92\00:02:06.02 and leading the church all across China. 00:02:06.05\00:02:07.89 So number one I would say lay involvement 00:02:07.92\00:02:09.92 and number two is just a deep love for Jesus. 00:02:09.96\00:02:12.73 They can't help but share Christ. 00:02:12.76\00:02:15.73 That, you know, I also know that there're many programs 00:02:15.76\00:02:19.07 that we actually partner with the government on. 00:02:19.10\00:02:22.40 They give us permission to print books 00:02:22.44\00:02:24.77 and they're supportive of that, 00:02:24.81\00:02:26.64 and what are some of the ministries that we see 00:02:26.68\00:02:29.51 taking place in China, they bring hope to people. 00:02:29.54\00:02:32.65 You know, you are right, 00:02:32.68\00:02:34.02 the government is looking for churches to participate 00:02:34.05\00:02:36.18 in serving the needs of a community. 00:02:36.22\00:02:38.35 I just heard just last week of a new church plant 00:02:38.39\00:02:42.06 and one of the provinces in China 00:02:42.09\00:02:44.56 that has developed the relationship 00:02:44.59\00:02:46.63 with an orphanage 00:02:46.66\00:02:48.20 and their members go in there every week to spend time, 00:02:48.23\00:02:51.40 and these are orphans that have special needs 00:02:51.43\00:02:54.14 and they are ministering to those people in that way. 00:02:54.17\00:02:57.71 The government which is... 00:02:57.74\00:02:59.91 by the way the orphanage is run by the government is delighted 00:02:59.94\00:03:02.58 to have this church come in. 00:03:02.61\00:03:04.28 We have other ministries like that going on to lepers 00:03:04.31\00:03:07.58 for example, into other special needs. 00:03:07.62\00:03:10.19 The fact is the more our membership 00:03:10.22\00:03:12.45 gets involved in the community, the more relevant they are. 00:03:12.49\00:03:15.76 Well, it's actually really the ministry of Jesus. 00:03:15.79\00:03:18.39 It is, yeah. 00:03:18.43\00:03:19.76 It's the method that Christ used, 00:03:19.79\00:03:21.13 He actually touched people's lives. 00:03:21.16\00:03:22.50 That's right. 00:03:22.53\00:03:23.87 Spend much more time healing than He ever did preaching. 00:03:23.90\00:03:25.23 Oh, He did. 00:03:25.27\00:03:26.60 Many of our churches are doing health expos, 00:03:26.63\00:03:28.47 they are teaching health principles. 00:03:28.50\00:03:31.04 Many of our churches have what they call health centers 00:03:31.07\00:03:33.84 but what they are, are lifestyle centers 00:03:33.88\00:03:36.34 and they invite people with terminal disease 00:03:36.38\00:03:38.85 and lifestyle diseases to come in 00:03:38.88\00:03:41.15 and wonderful things happen physically 00:03:41.18\00:03:43.95 but more so spiritually. 00:03:43.99\00:03:45.72 Hundreds of... 00:03:45.75\00:03:47.09 and I'm not just exaggerating. 00:03:47.12\00:03:48.46 Hundreds of people come to know Jesus 00:03:48.49\00:03:50.66 and join this church. 00:03:50.69\00:03:52.19 Well, I have been, 00:03:52.23\00:03:53.56 was surprised today to hear of the, 00:03:53.60\00:03:55.23 almost like sanitarium type... 00:03:55.26\00:03:57.43 Yes. 00:03:57.47\00:03:58.80 Institutions that are operating in China by local churches. 00:03:58.83\00:04:01.70 That's right. 00:04:01.74\00:04:03.07 They are the ones implementing them. 00:04:03.10\00:04:04.44 That's exact and these are not small enterprises. 00:04:04.47\00:04:06.37 Lots of people come and I was surprised, 00:04:06.41\00:04:08.61 when I visited them, 00:04:08.64\00:04:09.98 when they have their morning instruction 00:04:10.01\00:04:13.75 or their class time, 00:04:13.78\00:04:15.35 they start out with a strong devotional message, 00:04:15.38\00:04:17.65 they then talk about Jesus, 00:04:17.69\00:04:19.62 they talk about the power of God 00:04:19.65\00:04:20.99 to help them overcome certain habits. 00:04:21.02\00:04:23.12 They are open with morning and evening devotionals. 00:04:23.16\00:04:25.43 Let me just put it that way, worship. 00:04:25.46\00:04:26.93 These are non Christian people, atheists, 00:04:26.96\00:04:29.20 some of them are even government officials. 00:04:29.23\00:04:30.87 But you know, we have talked about the various ministries 00:04:30.90\00:04:34.84 that are taking place in China, 00:04:34.87\00:04:36.81 the things that our members are involved 00:04:36.84\00:04:39.37 and they make this growth take place. 00:04:39.41\00:04:41.31 But we cannot sidestep the question of the challenge. 00:04:41.34\00:04:45.05 Yes. 00:04:45.08\00:04:46.41 The challenge is there, I mean China is now... 00:04:46.45\00:04:49.62 1.4 billion. 00:04:49.65\00:04:51.32 1.4 billion people and I know that there are cities 00:04:51.35\00:04:55.89 probably scattered throughout China 00:04:55.92\00:04:58.49 in which probably Christianity in general 00:04:58.53\00:05:01.76 has just made a beginning if anything. 00:05:01.80\00:05:04.60 That is exactly right, entire provinces. 00:05:04.63\00:05:07.97 You and I when talking usually, 00:05:08.00\00:05:09.34 we have a province 00:05:09.37\00:05:10.71 where we don't even have one single member. 00:05:10.74\00:05:12.07 And the Christian presence as a body is very, very scarce. 00:05:12.11\00:05:18.01 There are millions upon millions of people 00:05:18.05\00:05:21.42 in large cities in China that have yet to hear 00:05:21.45\00:05:24.59 that they can go to bed at night at peace 00:05:24.62\00:05:26.99 knowing that Jesus loves them. 00:05:27.02\00:05:28.62 We have one city, Elder Ryan, that has 30 million people, 00:05:28.66\00:05:32.56 that's more people in that one municipality 00:05:32.59\00:05:35.50 than all the states, United States 00:05:35.53\00:05:37.23 except for California, 00:05:37.27\00:05:39.27 and we only have 200 members or so in that huge city. 00:05:39.30\00:05:41.84 I don't want us to get by the time 00:05:41.87\00:05:43.20 here without this question. 00:05:43.24\00:05:44.87 You know, there're many people 00:05:44.91\00:05:46.27 watching this from around the world, 00:05:46.31\00:05:48.24 this is the Adventist mission video, 00:05:48.28\00:05:50.65 and you know when we used to talk about 00:05:50.68\00:05:52.75 these un-entered cities 00:05:52.78\00:05:54.12 and these multiple millions of people 00:05:54.15\00:05:56.32 that haven't had the message. 00:05:56.35\00:05:57.82 What role does the rest of the membership play 00:05:57.85\00:06:00.99 in bringing that hope to them? 00:06:01.02\00:06:02.36 Well, you know what? 00:06:02.39\00:06:03.73 I appreciate that question because I believe 00:06:03.76\00:06:05.13 the most important role is please pray for China. 00:06:05.16\00:06:08.70 There is power in prayer. 00:06:08.73\00:06:10.30 This is a God sized task, pray for China. 00:06:10.33\00:06:13.54 Number two please... 00:06:13.57\00:06:15.00 I like that expression that God sized task. 00:06:15.04\00:06:17.97 That's exactly right. 00:06:18.01\00:06:19.34 Yeah, just be sure you remember that. 00:06:19.37\00:06:20.71 A God sized task, it is, it's way beyond 00:06:20.74\00:06:23.55 our ability even to comprehend. 00:06:23.58\00:06:25.95 So we need to pray, and secondly, 00:06:25.98\00:06:28.22 please support global missions. 00:06:28.25\00:06:32.19 It is through go Adventist missions. 00:06:32.22\00:06:35.09 Those funds that you give 00:06:35.12\00:06:36.73 come to help us put pioneer missionaries 00:06:36.76\00:06:39.59 in un-entered cities. 00:06:39.63\00:06:41.06 They speak the language, they know the culture 00:06:41.10\00:06:43.40 and they're trained by our local members. 00:06:43.43\00:06:45.77 There is a lot we can do. 00:06:45.80\00:06:47.14 And that spending 00:06:47.17\00:06:48.50 that is on top of the mission offering at time. 00:06:48.54\00:06:49.87 Exactly, yes. 00:06:49.90\00:06:51.51 That's exactly right. Yeah. 00:06:51.54\00:06:53.07 Anyway, thank you. 00:06:53.11\00:06:54.44 Yeah, and I'm sure you want to thank the people. 00:06:54.48\00:06:55.94 Absolutely, our greatest thanks go to that, 00:06:55.98\00:06:59.01 we feel supported, 00:06:59.05\00:07:00.92 in fact one of the Chinese pastor just recently said, 00:07:00.95\00:07:04.02 we feel humbled that there is so much love 00:07:04.05\00:07:06.25 and support around the world for our church here. 00:07:06.29\00:07:08.32 Thank you, Elder Folkenberg for being our guest today. 00:07:08.36\00:07:10.59 Now we're gonna go to Rwanda 00:07:10.63\00:07:12.36 and South Sudan for further stories. 00:07:12.39\00:07:14.96 Africa beautiful landscapes 00:07:24.57\00:07:27.01 with unique cultures and teeming with history, 00:07:27.04\00:07:30.28 home to more than one billion people. 00:07:30.31\00:07:32.58 The African continent is rich with mission opportunities. 00:07:32.61\00:07:36.62 Here you find some of the most picturesque scenery on earth, 00:07:36.65\00:07:41.02 as well as loving people who are full of joy. 00:07:41.06\00:07:44.59 Unfortunately this beauty has been marred 00:07:44.63\00:07:47.40 time and again by war and violence. 00:07:47.43\00:07:51.00 Despite the problems 00:07:51.03\00:07:52.47 there are more than seven million 00:07:52.50\00:07:53.94 Seventh-day Adventists 00:07:53.97\00:07:55.44 and three world division offices here. 00:07:55.47\00:07:58.57 One of the divisions 00:07:58.61\00:07:59.94 is the East Central Africa division 00:07:59.97\00:08:02.11 and this is our focus this quarter. 00:08:02.14\00:08:05.68 This territory is made up of 11 countries 00:08:05.71\00:08:08.22 and more than 11,000 churches. 00:08:08.25\00:08:11.05 Four of the countries are in the 1040 Window, 00:08:11.09\00:08:14.06 a region considered to be 00:08:14.09\00:08:15.49 the most unreached area of the world. 00:08:15.52\00:08:18.43 In countries like the Democratically Public of Congo, 00:08:18.46\00:08:21.56 Burundi, Eritrea, Rwanda and Somalia. 00:08:21.60\00:08:25.83 War and violence have taken a heavy toll 00:08:25.87\00:08:28.84 impacting thousands of lives. 00:08:28.87\00:08:31.61 In Rwanda, tribal genocide affected church members, 00:08:31.64\00:08:34.78 left buildings in ruin and scattered families. 00:08:34.81\00:08:38.15 But the resilience of this faithful people 00:08:38.18\00:08:40.38 is helping to make strikes towards a strong church. 00:08:40.42\00:08:44.32 The church in Rwanda has more than half a million members 00:08:44.35\00:08:47.42 and is well respected in the community. 00:08:47.46\00:08:50.03 Rwandans are required to perform community service 00:08:50.06\00:08:53.06 on the last Saturday of each month 00:08:53.09\00:08:55.66 but the government makes an exception 00:08:55.70\00:08:57.33 for Adventist members to perform these duties 00:08:57.37\00:08:59.87 on Sunday instead 00:08:59.90\00:09:01.70 to accommodate Sabbath observance. 00:09:01.74\00:09:03.57 In the country of South Sudan, there has also been war 00:09:09.28\00:09:12.31 and sadly fighting is still going on. 00:09:12.35\00:09:15.82 But in spite of these problems, God is working here. 00:09:15.85\00:09:19.52 There are 59 Adventist churches 00:09:19.55\00:09:22.36 with approximately 24,000 members 00:09:22.39\00:09:25.16 and more and more people are becoming Adventists 00:09:25.19\00:09:28.06 every year in South Sudan. 00:09:28.10\00:09:30.60 This Sabbath, church members 00:09:30.63\00:09:32.40 from all over Juba are joining together in worship. 00:09:32.43\00:09:36.60 They celebrate growth in their territory. 00:09:36.64\00:09:39.54 God is richly blessing the dedicated work 00:09:39.57\00:09:42.14 of this faithful family. 00:09:42.18\00:09:44.35 Juba is the capital city 00:09:44.38\00:09:46.08 where Adventists operate a school, a clinic, 00:09:46.11\00:09:49.08 and among other entities and Adventist radio station. 00:09:49.12\00:09:54.46 There are approximately 900 students at the school here, 00:09:54.49\00:09:57.76 but not enough classrooms to accommodate them. 00:09:57.79\00:10:00.73 Students sit tightly together as they share a desk 00:10:00.76\00:10:04.73 and some have to sit on the floor 00:10:04.77\00:10:06.63 as they write with notebooks on their laps. 00:10:06.67\00:10:09.44 The children pay little attention 00:10:09.47\00:10:11.17 to these inconveniences. 00:10:11.21\00:10:13.04 They are eager to learn 00:10:13.07\00:10:14.61 and are very respectful towards their teachers and faculty. 00:10:14.64\00:10:18.05 Good morning, Sir. 00:10:18.08\00:10:21.38 How are you? 00:10:21.42\00:10:22.75 I'm fine, thank you, Sir. 00:10:22.78\00:10:26.19 Which class is this? 00:10:26.22\00:10:27.59 PII 00:10:27.62\00:10:29.59 PII? Yes. 00:10:29.62\00:10:31.29 Yes, thank you very much. 00:10:31.33\00:10:33.83 There are many plans for growth 00:10:33.86\00:10:35.50 in the East Central Africa division. 00:10:35.53\00:10:38.17 Please pray for local leadership 00:10:38.20\00:10:40.67 and for church members as they are actively involved 00:10:40.70\00:10:43.54 in reaching their world for Jesus. 00:10:43.57\00:10:45.97 Well, I hope that you have enjoyed today's 00:10:58.19\00:10:59.92 360 degree of mission around the world, 00:10:59.95\00:11:02.72 and I hope that you've been inspired 00:11:02.76\00:11:04.43 and challenged by what you've seen and heard. 00:11:04.46\00:11:07.60 From more rural areas in Africa through to high density, 00:11:07.63\00:11:11.83 highly populated cities such as Hong Kong, 00:11:11.87\00:11:14.90 men and women are sharing the light of God's love 00:11:14.94\00:11:17.44 in very practical ways. 00:11:17.47\00:11:19.44 And I want to thank you for your continuing 00:11:19.47\00:11:21.04 support for mission through your prayers, 00:11:21.08\00:11:23.58 through your personal involvement, 00:11:23.61\00:11:25.15 and through your giving. 00:11:25.18\00:11:26.78 It does make a tremendous difference. 00:11:26.82\00:11:28.98 And I want to remind you about companion magazine, 00:11:29.02\00:11:31.95 our Mission 360 Magazine that's full of stories 00:11:31.99\00:11:35.02 just like you see here on this program. 00:11:35.06\00:11:37.33 Full of stories, full of pictures, 00:11:37.36\00:11:39.23 full of inspiration to keep you on the frontlines 00:11:39.26\00:11:43.67 of what's happening in mission around the world. 00:11:43.70\00:11:45.90 And if you'd like to get a hard copy of this magazine, 00:11:45.93\00:11:48.87 I'll be happy to send that to you, 00:11:48.90\00:11:50.64 but if you look at the information on your screen, 00:11:50.67\00:11:52.57 you can see how easy it is to download the magazine 00:11:52.61\00:11:55.91 on to your digital tablets 00:11:55.94\00:11:57.58 so that you can read it 00:11:57.61\00:11:58.95 in the comfort of your own home, 00:11:58.98\00:12:00.32 as you're traveling you can share it with others 00:12:00.35\00:12:02.15 or you can just view it on the internet 00:12:02.18\00:12:03.55 at adventistmission.org. 00:12:03.59\00:12:05.65 Well, for Adventist Mission, I'm Gary Krause, 00:12:05.69\00:12:08.12 and I hope that you can join me next time 00:12:08.16\00:12:10.36 right here on Mission 360. 00:12:10.39\00:12:12.59