Welcome back, we're discussing
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Matthew Chapter 18
and we are exploring
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how we should treat one another
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within the family,
faith, within the church.
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And Jesus has some
very specific instructions.
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Let's go little further
and answer your questions.
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Okay, it's not
hard in the church,
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to be loving towards people
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who are loving
towards us and who are okay.
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Jesus is not talking about that.
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He is talking about the church
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where there are people
who are lost. They've seen us.
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And Jesus says,
like the shepherd
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going out to
look for lost sheep,
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so we have to go and
find those lost sinners, okay.
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So what are the steps
that Jesus here prescribes
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telling us how we
are supposed to go
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and to see the sheep.
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It's those of
well-known verses 15.
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Let's go there.
Jesus says, who is--
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I want to
reemphasize that this context,
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we often read
verses 15 and following.
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Without remembering
what comes before or after.
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So in the context of
seeking the lost sheep
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let's go to Matthew Chapter 18.
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So we are
looking for a lost sheep,
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who is that lost sheep.
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Well, there is so
much to be said here.
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How does, Glenn,
how does verse 15 begin?
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"Moreover if your
brother sins against you,
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go and tell him his fault,
between you and him alone.
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If he hears you, you
have gained your brother."
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Glenn, how does Jesus
refer to that little one
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that lost sheep in the church?
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Brother. Your brother.
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Keep in mind that
person who lost in the church
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is my brother, not the sinner
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that I have despised him,
that I have to remove him,
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I have to distance myself
from him, he is my brother.
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Glenn, there is
something that comes to my mind.
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It's also in the synoptic.
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It's not in the
Gospel of Matthew.
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Do you remember
when that young man
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in the Parable
of the Prodigal Son
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came back to the father?
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His older brother came.
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Everybody was celebrating.
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They're rejoicing, or repentance
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of that young man,
but his brother did not
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want to even to enter the house.
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And the father comes out.
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And he says to the father,
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you know how a long time
I have been faithful to you.
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But when your son came--
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He doesn't call him his brother?
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--when your son came
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what is that the
father says to him,
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"my son, yeah, everything
what you said is okay.
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You are faithful to me.
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But you should come and to
see your brother who came."
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This is exactly
the point judging you.
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We have to
understand when we have
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the person in the
church, who is weak in faith,
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who has a
spiritual problems etcetera.
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Jesus says, he is your brother.
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Go and talk to him.
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This is the first
step how we should go
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and look for the lost sheep.
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And that first step
Ranko, is first to go
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our brother or sister. Sister.
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How? One to one. One to one.
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Not to spread around.
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He is your
brother, keep in mind.
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You love your brother.
She is your sister don't go--
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You keep--your sister,
you keep you reputation.
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Go, pray with that
person, talk to him.
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If that person recognizes
his condition comes back,
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the whole heaven rejoices.
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But if not there is a
second step verse 16. All right.
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"But if he will not hear,
take with you one or two more
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that by the mouth of
two or three witnesses
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every word may be established."
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This text is very
much misunderstood.
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If he doesn't obey me, let
me take one or two witnesses
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that I have the
evidences that he screwed up.
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I cannot number and intimidate
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and take the evidence.
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Actually this is not
what Jesus tried to say.
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Usually the Christians
they do when they read the Bible
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they don't connect
verse 16 with verse 19 and 20.
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Glenn, would you this text.
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Verse 19? And 20.
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"Again I say to you
that if two of you."
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Okay, what is the
beginning of this text? Again.
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What does it mean, again
I say to you? I'm going by.
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The Jesus said it
before, okay. Let's go on.
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"Again I say to you,
that if two of you agree
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on anything on
earth that they ask,
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it will be done for
them by my Father in heaven.
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For where two or
three are gathered
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together in my name, I am
there in the midst of them."
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So number one, Jesus said,
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"Again I say to
you if two or three
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are gather in My name"
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where did Jesus talk
before about two and three.
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He just mentioned it
back in verse 16. Verse 16.
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Why here we
have take one or two,
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here we have two or three.
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You see, if you
take, you are one
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and if you take one or
two then you are two or three.
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Why are you
supposed to take to find
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one or two people with
you to go with that brother?
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Not to have
witness to use against Him.
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According to Jesus, you
are supposed to pray for them.
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You invite people who
are spiritually strong,
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who also love that person.
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And you explain the situation,
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you pray together you ask God.
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But as you pray, as you
discuss about the brother
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what is that that
you have to keep in mind?
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That Jesus is present
with you so the question
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that you have to ask yourself,
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Jesus, we tried to deal
with his brother to help him.
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How would you relate to him?
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How would treat to him?
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We must keep in mind always
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awareness of
Jesus presence with us.
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We have to treat that
brother in Jesus spirit
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as we try to restore him into
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the fellowship of the believers.
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This passage is often
thought of as a redemptive--
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as a discipline thing.
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But you're saying there's
a redemptive function here.
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It's discipline.
But it's redemptive.
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Yeah, you and
me, we had our kids
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when they were a--
we disciplined our kids.
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For what purpose, to kill them?
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They thought so, sometimes. No.
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It was redemptive. Yes.
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Because we wanted to
put them on the right path.
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This is
discipline. That's right.
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But no discipline that's
usually many people think
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it's about is
discipline to save a person.
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So this is not the point
of cleaning the church books
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and kicking out of
those who don't measure. No.
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It's to treating
people in love of Jesus.
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And let me say and finally
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they were
successful, Praise God.
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They won't have any rejoices
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but the person
is still stubborn.
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What is the next step?
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"And if he refuses to hear
them tell it to the church.
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But if he refuses
even to hear the church,
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let him be to you like a heathen
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and a tax
collector." Let's talk here.
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So present to the church
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what is the
church supposed to do?
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To plan. In the same spirit.
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To plan how to
work with that person
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with the same spirit,
the Spirit of Jesus Christ.
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As the church is, is
relating to that lost brother
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that little one they
must think about Jesus Christ
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whom they serve.
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If that person admits
and that person comes back,
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Praise God, the whole heaven
the entire church rejoices.
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But if not then the
church has to take one step
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and what is the step.
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And unfortunately
these steps have been
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so much misused. Oh, yes.
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People say you see, "Jesus said,
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kick out that
person from the church."
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And Glenn, I
just want to tell you,
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I hear her in one
place even people say,
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well, Jesus said when
there is garbage in the church,
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take that
garbage and throw it out.
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And we would
have to say that sadly
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there have been injustices,
as people been mistreated
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and greatly hurt by the church.
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But the description
here is "let them be to you
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like a heathen."
What does it mean?
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Glenn, Glenn,
what Jesus said here,
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does it imply
that you have to do
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the fellowship that person. Yes.
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To treat them like a heathen.
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Yes, tax collectors and sinners
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are outside the
church, that's fellowshipping.
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But there is
something very interesting.
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In the New Testament
there is a technical Greek word
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for this
fellowshipping which is the word
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"Ballo" or "Exballo."
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It means cuss them
out from the Church.
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But amazingly Jesus is not
using this expression here.
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Yeah, Jesus said his
fellowship to the person.
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It's clearly there, there
are some people who said no,
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there is no this fellowshipping.
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Jesus says this fellowship,
but Jesus used expression,
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"make that person to be to you,
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as a sinner and
tax collectors, why?
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Because even the
sinners and tax collectors
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were the object of
Jesus greatest love. Yes.
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It means put that person
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outside of the
Church and do what?
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You know, when you see
tax collectors or sinners,
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what do you do? You want
to preach the gospel to them.
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You pray for them,
you make great effort
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to bring them to the church.
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So Jesus says, put those
people outside of the church
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that they
realize their condition.
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And then work,
make the same effort
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to bring them back to the church
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as you do with tax
collectors and sinners.
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What a wonderful savior!
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Your ministry is not over.
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So even then you,
these fellowship people
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from the church
it's not punishment,
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it's to help them.
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It's to discipline
them to restore them
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into the fellowship
with, with, with God.
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You've cleared up one
often misunderstood text
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but another one
is verse 18. Yeah.
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"Assuredly I say to you
whatever you bind on earth
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will be bound in heaven,
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and whatever you loose on earth
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will be loosed in heaven."
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This text has
been so misunderstood.
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I just want to tell you
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when I was a young
Pastor in ministry.
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I saw they bring people
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before the
church board sometimes.
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And you know, the
person, yeah is guilty,
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is not guilty you
know whatever it is.
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But they say, you know, you,
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we have a right to do
it because whatever we do,
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Jesus said, God will
seal it there in Heaven.
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Is that indeed what Jesus said.
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Glenn, I don't know
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what you have in
your English translation.
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Can you read this
text one more time in--
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"I say to you assuredly
whatever you bind on earth
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will be bound in heaven,
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whatever you loose on
earth will be loosed in heaven."
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You know, we don't like to talk
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too much about Greek language.
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But please allow me
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to say exactly
how it looks in Greek.
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And Glenn,
English is your language
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and please I would
like you to explain
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to me grammatically what
it means there. We'll try.
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Actually in Greek, if you
want to translate literally,
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it says, "Truly I say to
you whatever you bind on earth,
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it shall-have
been-bound in heaven."
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And then it says, "And whatever
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you loose on earth it shall
have been loosed in heaven."
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You know, binding means
to accept someone in church.
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To loose, it means somebody's
fellowship on the Church.
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Glenn, what does grammatically
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these saying of Jesus tells us?
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You're dealing with tenses
and we're dealing with times.
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Yes, it's the
future perfect tense.
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So what--the text says, is it,
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is it that the Heaven follows
the decision of the Church?
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No. Or what does the text say?
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What you just said, is that
"It happens in Heaven first."
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So the Church has to
follow the decision of Heaven.
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What the text tell us
what ever you bind on earth,
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be careful that
it is in accordance
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what was done
there in the Heaven.
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I wanna make sure we got
that, Ranko, that the church
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needs to follow
the decision of Heaven.
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Of heaven. Not the Heaven
for instance. Heaven leads.
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You know that the
medieval theology,
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medieval persecution is,
is whatever we do with people,
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God will seal there in Heaven.
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How much in people can
misunderstand the Bible
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and misuse the Bible in order
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to support their
theology and ideas.
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What a savior we have. Yes.
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Savior, who cares
both for the righteousness
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for those who are
spiritually strong
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but His love is equal
towards those who are weak,
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those who are lost, those
who are struggling spiritually.
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Jesus love, try
to reach everybody.
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We have to understand that
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Jesus is anchor
chain to reach people.
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But He is using me, me and you
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in order to find those,
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those who were
lost in the Church.
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And although we can't
go in to it, let's remember
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that there is a parable
that comes right after this.
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We will come to
that in the next lessons.
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I would like to, to say
something to the viewer,
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I know that there
are many Christians,
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they stopped
going to the Church.
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And they don't go any
Church to worship Christ.
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They distance themselves
from the community of believers
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because of the
mistakes that people made.
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And some of them they
feel even a bitterness.
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I just want to
tell you something.
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Don't look at people.
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Don't look at people's mistake.
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Look at the Jesus Christ.
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There are still
many loving Christians
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that Jesus Christ is using
to reach people for, for Him.
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Come back to Jesus Christ
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and you'll be accepted by Him.
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