Hi, and welcome to "The Books of the Book" series 00:00:21.45\00:00:23.89 on "The Gospel of Matthew". 00:00:23.90\00:00:25.55 We're exploring this gospel picture, 00:00:25.56\00:00:28.18 the portrait of Jesus Christ 00:00:28.19\00:00:29.88 and Matthew under the inspiration 00:00:29.89\00:00:31.60 of the Holy Spirit provides for us. 00:00:31.61\00:00:34.02 We're here with Dr. Ranko Stefanovic 00:00:34.03\00:00:36.26 from Andrews University, theological seminary, 00:00:36.27\00:00:38.29 professor of New Testament. 00:00:38.30\00:00:40.19 Ranko, it's a joy to do this program together 00:00:40.20\00:00:42.80 to be studying scripture is just a wonderful opportunity. 00:00:42.81\00:00:46.03 Yes, Glenn, it's--I'm so glad to be with you here. 00:00:46.04\00:00:49.86 We've known each other for long time. 00:00:49.87\00:00:52.17 We taught in the department of religion 00:00:52.18\00:00:54.07 for significant number of years 00:00:54.08\00:00:56.47 and I know your passion for Christ and for ministry 00:00:56.48\00:00:59.41 and it's a great privilege to be here at 3ABN 00:00:59.42\00:01:01.97 and shared this message of Jesus Christ. 00:01:01.98\00:01:04.99 You know, Ranko, I think both of us 00:01:05.00\00:01:06.98 would admit as teachers 00:01:06.99\00:01:08.75 that sometimes things aren't quite the way they should be, 00:01:08.76\00:01:11.83 perhaps in the school, perhaps in our campuses, 00:01:11.84\00:01:14.54 perhaps even in our classrooms. 00:01:14.55\00:01:16.90 We need prayer, don't we? Oh, yes. 00:01:16.91\00:01:18.93 We need the support and encouragement. 00:01:18.94\00:01:20.56 I just want to say a word to the viewers out there, 00:01:20.57\00:01:24.04 please pray for your teachers, pray for your pastors, 00:01:24.05\00:01:26.92 pray for the ministries, pray for 3ABN. 00:01:26.93\00:01:29.98 It's so easy to be critical and to criticize, 00:01:29.99\00:01:32.42 and to find in the opportunity to find fault. 00:01:32.43\00:01:35.11 But please pray for God to speak through 00:01:35.12\00:01:37.95 and for God to bless. 00:01:37.96\00:01:39.95 Each one who is seeking this 00:01:39.96\00:01:41.23 share Christ with our young people? 00:01:41.24\00:01:44.21 It's a difficult world these days. 00:01:44.22\00:01:45.90 It's a tough time to grow up as young person. 00:01:45.91\00:01:48.16 Reach out to the young people in your church, 00:01:48.17\00:01:50.07 in your home, pray for them. 00:01:50.08\00:01:51.95 It'll make all the difference in the world. 00:01:51.96\00:01:53.95 Glenn, I would also like to say something to our viewers. 00:01:53.96\00:01:57.66 You know, I have in my wallet, I have several cards, 00:01:57.67\00:02:01.45 one of them is to show my profession 00:02:01.46\00:02:03.58 as a professor with a doctoral degree. 00:02:03.59\00:02:06.81 But probably the most important card 00:02:06.82\00:02:08.64 that I have in my wallet is this 00:02:08.65\00:02:11.25 that says, "Ministerial Credentials". 00:02:11.26\00:02:14.04 I'm the ordained pastor of Seventh Day Adventist Church 00:02:14.05\00:02:17.24 and I take my classroom as my church 00:02:17.25\00:02:19.86 that those young people 00:02:19.87\00:02:20.88 they have different challenges as young people. 00:02:20.89\00:02:23.50 But at the end of the semester when they come to you, 00:02:23.51\00:02:26.08 they say, in this class I found Jesus Christ. 00:02:26.09\00:02:29.75 I fell in love with Him. I want to serve my church. 00:02:29.76\00:02:33.06 I want to serve Christ the rest of my life. 00:02:33.07\00:02:35.36 Wherever I travel, I find my former students 00:02:35.37\00:02:37.80 they said, "You remember I was lazy. 00:02:37.81\00:02:40.37 I did not take my classes seriously. 00:02:40.38\00:02:42.38 But God used you to make a difference in my life." 00:02:42.39\00:02:45.22 I know the same happened with you. 00:02:45.23\00:02:47.03 So please pray for us 00:02:47.04\00:02:48.86 because we are all on the same mission is 00:02:48.87\00:02:52.20 to bring people to Jesus Christ. 00:02:52.21\00:02:55.95 And as we continue in our exploration of the gospel 00:02:55.96\00:02:59.53 according to Matthew, 00:02:59.54\00:03:01.12 all we want to be sure God leads us in our study. 00:03:01.13\00:03:03.14 Let's pray together. Yes. 00:03:03.15\00:03:05.35 Lord, we come. 00:03:05.36\00:03:07.44 We've thoughts and ideas. 00:03:07.45\00:03:09.83 We've training and we've background. 00:03:09.84\00:03:12.88 But more than anything else, we need Your spirit. 00:03:12.89\00:03:15.77 We need you to breakthrough to speak to our hearts, 00:03:15.78\00:03:18.42 to speak to our minds, to draw us to you. 00:03:18.43\00:03:21.63 May we truly sense 00:03:21.64\00:03:23.42 that Your spirit is present with us now 00:03:23.43\00:03:25.54 as we study Your word. 00:03:25.55\00:03:27.26 Be with each viewer, be with each of us 00:03:27.27\00:03:29.56 in Jesus name we pray, amen. Amen. 00:03:29.57\00:03:33.18 All right, Ranko, 00:03:33.19\00:03:34.24 we have been exploring this wonderful book of Matthew. 00:03:34.25\00:03:37.34 We've seen that Jesus has now 00:03:37.35\00:03:39.06 set His face towards Jerusalem. 00:03:39.07\00:03:41.41 He is headed to the cross. 00:03:41.42\00:03:43.85 But there are some things He needs to make sure 00:03:43.86\00:03:45.74 that His disciples understand before He gets there. 00:03:45.75\00:03:48.70 It's interesting as Jesus is moving 00:03:48.71\00:03:51.62 with His disciples towards Jerusalem there, 00:03:51.63\00:03:54.16 He is constantly taking them aside, 00:03:54.17\00:03:57.18 talking with them, trying to serve them 00:03:57.19\00:03:59.81 because He does not have too much time, 00:03:59.82\00:04:02.07 you know, to talk to them. 00:04:02.08\00:04:03.98 And He wants to tell them, 00:04:03.99\00:04:05.95 "I'm going to Jerusalem to die." 00:04:05.96\00:04:07.73 This is what will happen. 00:04:07.74\00:04:09.03 But evidently their interest was in something else. 00:04:09.04\00:04:12.75 So Glenn, I would like to ask you, 00:04:12.76\00:04:14.44 if you can take verses 1 to 6 of Chapter 18. 00:04:14.45\00:04:18.79 We're hearing Chapter 18 at this moment. 00:04:18.80\00:04:20.17 And we remember the disciples came with mixed motives-- 00:04:20.18\00:04:22.98 Mixed motives etcetera. 00:04:22.99\00:04:24.27 With all kinds of other objectives. 00:04:24.28\00:04:26.39 They had some sincerity. Yes, we have to admit that. 00:04:26.40\00:04:28.94 They were sincere people. 00:04:28.95\00:04:30.28 But they also had some misunderstandings. 00:04:30.29\00:04:32.44 Matthew, Chapter 18, verse 1, 00:04:32.45\00:04:34.78 "At that time the disciples came to Jesus saying, 00:04:34.79\00:04:37.49 'Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?' 00:04:37.50\00:04:40.84 Jesus called a little child to Him, 00:04:40.85\00:04:42.83 set him in the midst of them, and said, 00:04:42.84\00:04:45.24 'Assuredly, I tell you, unless you are converted 00:04:45.25\00:04:48.24 and become as little children, 00:04:48.25\00:04:50.30 you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. 00:04:50.31\00:04:52.96 Therefore whoever humbles himself 00:04:52.97\00:04:55.32 as this little child is the greatest 00:04:55.33\00:04:57.39 in the kingdom of heaven. 00:04:57.40\00:04:58.76 Whoever receives one little child like this 00:04:58.77\00:05:01.46 in My name receives me. 00:05:01.47\00:05:03.82 "Whoever causes one of these little ones 00:05:03.83\00:05:06.06 who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him 00:05:06.07\00:05:09.03 if a millstone were hung around his neck 00:05:09.04\00:05:12.20 and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.'" 00:05:12.21\00:05:14.69 Okay. Let's try to understand something here. 00:05:14.70\00:05:17.17 When the disciples ask Jesus, 00:05:17.18\00:05:18.74 who is the greatest in the kingdom? 00:05:18.75\00:05:20.53 Who is the greatest in the kingdom? 00:05:20.54\00:05:22.70 Obviously God. Who has the power? Yeah. 00:05:22.71\00:05:25.45 Who is the greatest in the kingdom 00:05:25.46\00:05:27.85 that person will be next to Jesus in his kingdom. 00:05:27.86\00:05:30.31 They were fighting for position there-- 00:05:30.32\00:05:33.31 there in the kingdom. 00:05:33.32\00:05:35.09 They thought that Jesus was to establish 00:05:35.10\00:05:37.69 that earthly kingdom, but Jesus surprised them. 00:05:37.70\00:05:42.32 They were interested in power, 00:05:42.33\00:05:44.03 but Jesus brings there in the midst, 00:05:44.04\00:05:46.06 He brings a child. 00:05:46.07\00:05:48.13 Now there is something different about 00:05:48.14\00:05:49.40 the eastern view about children, 00:05:49.41\00:05:51.48 in biblical times and children today. 00:05:51.49\00:05:53.39 We're used to when a child comes into the room, 00:05:53.40\00:05:55.51 our conversation stops in the center. 00:05:55.52\00:05:58.52 But, in ancient times the child was what? 00:05:58.53\00:06:00.98 When, when-- adults are talking 00:06:00.99\00:06:04.23 child does not have place there. 00:06:04.24\00:06:06.38 The child is outside. 00:06:06.39\00:06:07.80 It's all outside because--go, go and play, 00:06:07.81\00:06:09.63 you've nothing to do with adults. 00:06:09.64\00:06:10.95 So child is an example of the least. 00:06:10.96\00:06:13.17 Yeah, so Jesus invites the child and He says 00:06:13.18\00:06:17.33 if you do not humble yourself to be like this child, 00:06:17.34\00:06:22.11 you'll actually not 00:06:22.12\00:06:24.30 get into the Kingdom of Heaven. Can you imagine? 00:06:24.31\00:06:26.36 Who is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven? 00:06:26.37\00:06:27.66 Jesus has--if you do not become like this child, 00:06:27.67\00:06:30.52 you don't--not that you're not great, 00:06:30.53\00:06:32.47 but you'll not find yourself there 00:06:32.48\00:06:34.48 in the kingdom of heaven. 00:06:34.49\00:06:35.56 So there is a contrast that we're seeing here. 00:06:35.57\00:06:38.71 They're asking about the greatness 00:06:38.72\00:06:40.71 and He's showing the least. Yes. 00:06:40.72\00:06:42.92 And now Jesus is making to move 00:06:42.93\00:06:45.42 from that Kingdom of Heaven, 00:06:45.43\00:06:47.24 He is moving now to the visibly. 00:06:47.25\00:06:49.42 You remember, we talked about the visible manifestation 00:06:49.43\00:06:52.01 of the Kingdom of Heaven 00:06:52.02\00:06:53.08 and that's actually what the church is. 00:06:53.09\00:06:56.18 And giving the practical instructions, 00:06:56.19\00:06:58.41 if you want to be the great in the kingdom, 00:06:58.42\00:07:01.82 now this is the way how you should live, 00:07:01.83\00:07:04.78 you should live in the church. 00:07:04.79\00:07:06.48 And one of the great problems 00:07:06.49\00:07:07.51 it's--been in so many times in our congregation 00:07:07.52\00:07:11.23 is that same old problem like the disciples 00:07:11.24\00:07:13.10 who is the greatest in my church, 00:07:13.11\00:07:15.22 in my community of faith, 00:07:15.23\00:07:17.19 and Jesus now gonna deal with it, all right. 00:07:17.20\00:07:19.77 So now let's go to what Jesus has done. 00:07:19.78\00:07:22.64 You'll notice how many times 00:07:22.65\00:07:25.68 Jesus uses here the expression "the little ones" 00:07:25.69\00:07:28.75 in verse 6, "The one who causes the little ones." 00:07:28.76\00:07:33.76 Then verse 10, 00:07:33.77\00:07:36.00 "See that you do not despise one of these little ones." 00:07:36.01\00:07:40.95 Let's go verse 14, 00:07:40.96\00:07:42.99 "So it is not the will of our Father who is in heaven 00:07:43.00\00:07:46.35 that one of these little one perishes." 00:07:46.36\00:07:49.14 What Jesus tries to make is that we must be aware 00:07:49.15\00:07:53.25 that in the church, there is a group, 00:07:53.26\00:07:56.43 the Jesus labels or Jesus refers to as the "little one." 00:07:56.44\00:08:00.67 Glenn, if the little ones 00:08:00.68\00:08:02.19 then how we should call another group? 00:08:02.20\00:08:04.56 Well, it's got to be greater. 00:08:04.57\00:08:05.66 The greater ones. 00:08:05.67\00:08:07.13 So there are two groups in the church. 00:08:07.14\00:08:10.93 And what Jesus tried to make very clear is, 00:08:10.97\00:08:14.65 if you are the great one in the church, 00:08:14.66\00:08:18.27 you'll be great by the way you deal 00:08:18.28\00:08:22.46 and you treat 00:08:22.50\00:08:24.08 those little ones there in the church. 00:08:24.09\00:08:26.64 So way to find out how faithful 00:08:26.65\00:08:30.20 I'm in following Jesus is the way I treat the least. 00:08:30.21\00:08:33.38 He's not just talking about age children here, is He? 00:08:33.39\00:08:36.25 Other synoptics,ther synoptics, 00:08:36.26\00:08:39.91 they has-- actually they contain 00:08:39.92\00:08:42.15 and then they mention some other instructions of Jesus. 00:08:42.16\00:08:44.89 When Jesus told them, do you see 00:08:44.90\00:08:46.03 the rulers in the world? 00:08:46.04\00:08:47.72 They take the power. They dictate. 00:08:47.73\00:08:50.10 And they rule other people. 00:08:50.11\00:08:51.61 Keep in mind, they ask who is great in the king of God? 00:08:51.62\00:08:55.25 Jesus said, "Great in the king of God is not the person 00:08:55.26\00:08:58.50 who has the power dictate, dominate other people. 00:08:58.51\00:09:02.75 No, he is the person who tried to treat 00:09:02.76\00:09:07.18 those little ones in the way the Jesus Christ treats them. 00:09:07.19\00:09:12.02 All right. He seems to understand 00:09:12.03\00:09:15.63 human nature very well. Yes. 00:09:15.64\00:09:18.00 And he understands how even though 00:09:18.01\00:09:21.22 we're like the disciples of chosen that follow Jesus. 00:09:21.23\00:09:24.08 We're still struggling. We're still not there yet. 00:09:24.09\00:09:28.60 Now Ranko, there might be little bit of surprise 00:09:28.61\00:09:30.61 where some people say, well the church should be perfect. 00:09:30.62\00:09:32.69 There should be no problems. 00:09:32.70\00:09:33.92 Was that the vision Jesus had? 00:09:33.93\00:09:37.22 Was He unrealistic about his followers? 00:09:37.23\00:09:39.80 Glenn, can we be reminded, we did not have a time 00:09:39.81\00:09:44.17 to go extensively to treat that text. 00:09:44.18\00:09:46.46 In Matthew Chapter 13, Jesus said, 00:09:46.47\00:09:49.00 the Kingdom of Heaven which is the church, 00:09:49.01\00:09:52.36 okay on the earth, that Kingdom of Heaven, 00:09:52.37\00:09:57.34 there are not only good seeds 00:09:57.35\00:09:59.94 but there are also tears. 00:09:59.95\00:10:01.85 And Jesus said 00:10:01.86\00:10:02.87 "until the very Second Coming of Christ, 00:10:02.88\00:10:05.87 the both groups will be in the church." 00:10:05.88\00:10:07.90 We don't want to do it. 00:10:07.91\00:10:09.43 It's not that God is happy because of that. 00:10:09.44\00:10:11.76 And Jesus does not predict that it must be. 00:10:11.77\00:10:15.13 But Jesus said, "This is the reality whether 00:10:15.14\00:10:17.64 we want to accept it or not." 00:10:17.65\00:10:19.57 But until the very Second Coming of Christ, 00:10:19.58\00:10:22.54 there will be two groups together 00:10:22.55\00:10:24.53 and it is only the Second Coming of Christ 00:10:24.54\00:10:26.77 that we'll make separation between the two members. 00:10:26.78\00:10:28.76 And the first thing, we've seen then is 00:10:28.77\00:10:30.34 that one of the things that has to make a difference 00:10:30.35\00:10:32.86 is that those of us in the community of faith need 00:10:32.87\00:10:36.22 to treat those on the fringes, those on the edges, 00:10:36.23\00:10:39.26 those who are the most likely to be 00:10:39.27\00:10:40.89 outcast or rejected. 00:10:40.90\00:10:42.49 How do we treat them? 00:10:42.50\00:10:43.88 Actually, if you notice here verses 7 to 10, the Jesus said, 00:10:43.89\00:10:47.62 "that those little ones, they are sinners." 00:10:47.63\00:10:49.92 There are people who have a problem, 00:10:49.93\00:10:51.39 they're not spiritually strong. 00:10:51.40\00:10:52.91 But Jesus says, 00:10:52.92\00:10:54.09 "If I'm spiritually strong and great person, 00:10:54.10\00:10:57.14 and if I'm a stumbling block to those people," 00:10:57.15\00:11:00.42 do you know what it means stumbling block. 00:11:00.43\00:11:02.28 I can offend people, I can treat them harshly. 00:11:02.29\00:11:05.31 Jesus says, "Is better to me." 00:11:05.32\00:11:08.80 That these are-- Strong lines. 00:11:08.81\00:11:10.82 I'm--I'm afraid to reading those. 00:11:10.83\00:11:12.41 Jesus says, "Put the millstone out of your neck 00:11:12.42\00:11:15.35 and throw yourself in the lake. 00:11:15.36\00:11:16.68 It's better for you to lose this life 00:11:16.69\00:11:18.41 then you one day that you finish in that, in that hell," 00:11:18.44\00:11:22.19 eternal fire that you just mentioned 00:11:22.20\00:11:25.08 at the Second Coming of Christ. 00:11:25.12\00:11:26.21 Fairly that compassion of Jesus 00:11:26.22\00:11:28.66 that we've seen several times in the gospel 00:11:28.67\00:11:30.79 cares deeply how we treat each other. 00:11:30.80\00:11:32.76 And Jesus cares about sinners. Yes. 00:11:32.77\00:11:36.34 By the way, in verse 12, 00:11:36.35\00:11:40.14 Jesus talks about those little ones 00:11:40.15\00:11:43.49 and he compares them with the lost sheep. 00:11:43.50\00:11:47.14 If you go to the gospe of Luke, Chapter 15, 00:11:47.15\00:11:50.11 we have the parable of the lost sheep. 00:11:50.12\00:11:52.32 But, you know, we've the parable of the lost sheep in Luke 15. 00:11:52.33\00:11:55.21 We've the lost coin, and we've the prodigal son. 00:11:55.22\00:11:58.42 Who is the lost sheep in that context? 00:11:58.43\00:12:00.48 Is somebody who left the church and is sinner, 00:12:00.49\00:12:03.18 it's outside of the church, 00:12:03.19\00:12:04.36 and the shepherd goes through them? 00:12:04.37\00:12:05.90 In this context, this sheep is lost in the church. 00:12:05.91\00:12:10.67 The context and the metaphor that Jesus is using, 00:12:13.78\00:12:17.38 He is completely differing them 00:12:17.39\00:12:18.96 from the metaphor of Luke 15. 00:12:18.97\00:12:20.94 The people who are in the church, 00:12:20.95\00:12:22.95 they come, they smile, they have a tie, 00:12:22.96\00:12:25.22 they, you know, everything is nice. 00:12:25.23\00:12:26.72 They're all smiling when they come to a church, 00:12:26.73\00:12:28.78 but those people are lost in the church. 00:12:28.79\00:12:32.60 They've nominal name Christians, 00:12:32.61\00:12:35.12 but they've nothing to do Jesus Christ. 00:12:35.13\00:12:37.17 They are so much oppressed with the problems of this life 00:12:37.18\00:12:40.47 and Jesus says, 00:12:40.48\00:12:41.51 "if you're great in the king of God 00:12:41.52\00:12:44.86 it is your duty to go and to seek 00:12:44.87\00:12:48.83 and look for that sheep, find that sheep, 00:12:48.84\00:12:52.30 and restore her into the fellowship of the flock." 00:12:52.31\00:12:57.23 I'd like to read verse 14, 00:12:57.24\00:12:58.51 "Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven, 00:12:58.52\00:13:01.79 that one of these little ones should perish." 00:13:01.80\00:13:04.80 God's desire is that no one should perish. 00:13:04.81\00:13:08.84 What a beautiful picture! It's a beautiful picture. 00:13:08.85\00:13:11.91 As we, as we work through this process, 00:13:11.92\00:13:14.64 He wants us to catch the heart of God, 00:13:14.65\00:13:17.02 He wants us to have the love for the ones 00:13:17.03\00:13:18.80 who would perish just like the Father does. 00:13:18.81\00:13:20.97 There is something else. 00:13:21.07\00:13:22.13 In verse 13 says, when that strong one, 00:13:22.14\00:13:25.88 the great one into church finds that sheep 00:13:25.89\00:13:29.33 that is lost in the church, "He finds truly, 00:13:29.34\00:13:31.93 I say to you he rejoices over it more than over 99, 00:13:31.94\00:13:37.36 which have not gone astray." 00:13:37.37\00:13:39.80 There is a joy when a sinner comes back to God. 00:13:39.81\00:13:43.20 Now there is a question. 00:13:43.21\00:13:44.45 I know that the viewers are asking the question, 00:13:44.46\00:13:47.90 what does it mean that we go and seek for the sheep? 00:13:47.91\00:13:51.15 How we are supposed to seek that sheep? 00:13:51.16\00:13:53.87 I don't, I don't know, I don't know, 00:13:53.88\00:13:55.40 who is that little one that is lost? 00:13:55.41\00:13:57.22 Right after, right after the break Jesus give us 00:13:57.23\00:13:59.68 detailed instructions actually how to seek for the sheep. 00:13:59.69\00:14:02.47 Ranko, you've raised the question. 00:14:02.48\00:14:04.02 We're gonna have to come back for 00:14:04.03\00:14:05.11 the answer right after the break. 00:14:05.12\00:14:06.49 We'll be right back. 00:14:06.50\00:14:07.50