Hi, and welcome to "The Books of the Book" series 00:00:21.38\00:00:23.85 on "The Gospel of Matthew". 00:00:23.89\00:00:25.49 We're exploring this gospel picture, 00:00:25.52\00:00:28.12 the portrait of Jesus Christ 00:00:28.16\00:00:29.82 and Matthew under the inspiration 00:00:29.86\00:00:31.56 of the Holy Spirit provides for us. 00:00:31.59\00:00:33.96 We're here with Dr. Ranko Stefanovic 00:00:34.00\00:00:36.16 from Andrews University, theological seminary, 00:00:36.20\00:00:38.20 professor of New Testament. 00:00:38.23\00:00:40.10 Ranko, it's a joy to do this program together 00:00:40.14\00:00:42.70 to be studying scripture is just a wonderful opportunity. 00:00:42.74\00:00:45.94 Yes, Glenn, it's--I'm so glad to be with you here. 00:00:45.97\00:00:49.78 We've known each other for long time. 00:00:49.81\00:00:52.08 We taught in the department of religion 00:00:52.11\00:00:53.98 for significant number of years 00:00:54.02\00:00:56.38 and I know your passion for Christ and for ministry 00:00:56.42\00:00:59.32 and it's a great privilege to be here at 3ABN 00:00:59.35\00:01:01.96 and shared this message of Jesus Christ. 00:01:01.99\00:01:04.96 You know, Ranko, I think both of us 00:01:04.99\00:01:06.96 would admit as teachers 00:01:07.00\00:01:08.70 that sometimes things aren't quite the way they should be, 00:01:08.73\00:01:11.77 perhaps in the school, perhaps in our campuses, 00:01:11.80\00:01:14.47 perhaps even in our classrooms. 00:01:14.50\00:01:16.84 We need prayer, don't we? Oh, yes. 00:01:16.87\00:01:18.87 We need the support and encouragement. 00:01:18.91\00:01:20.51 I just want to say a word to the viewers out there, 00:01:20.54\00:01:23.98 please pray for your teachers, pray for your pastors, 00:01:24.01\00:01:26.88 pray for the ministries, pray for 3ABN. 00:01:26.92\00:01:29.92 It's so easy to be critical and to criticize, 00:01:29.95\00:01:32.35 and to find in the opportunity to find fault. 00:01:32.39\00:01:35.06 But please pray for God to speak through 00:01:35.09\00:01:37.89 and for God to bless. 00:01:37.93\00:01:39.89 Each one who is seeking this 00:01:39.93\00:01:41.23 share Christ with our young people? 00:01:41.26\00:01:44.13 It's a difficult world these days. 00:01:44.17\00:01:45.80 It's a tough time to grow up as young person. 00:01:45.83\00:01:48.07 Reach out to the young people in your church, 00:01:48.10\00:01:49.97 in your home, pray for them. 00:01:50.01\00:01:51.87 It'll make all the difference in the world. 00:01:51.91\00:01:53.88 Glenn, I would also like to say something to our viewers. 00:01:53.91\00:01:57.58 You know, I have in my wallet, I have several cards, 00:01:57.61\00:02:01.42 one of them is to show my profession 00:02:01.45\00:02:03.55 as a professor with a doctoral degree. 00:02:03.59\00:02:06.79 But probably the most important card 00:02:06.82\00:02:08.62 that I have in my wallet is this 00:02:08.66\00:02:11.23 that says, "Ministerial Credentials". 00:02:11.26\00:02:14.00 I'm the ordained pastor of Seventh Day Adventist Church 00:02:14.03\00:02:17.20 and I take my classroom as my church 00:02:17.23\00:02:19.80 that those young people 00:02:19.83\00:02:21.17 they have different challenges as young people. 00:02:21.20\00:02:23.44 But at the end of the semester when they come to you, 00:02:23.47\00:02:26.04 they say, in this class I found Jesus Christ. 00:02:26.07\00:02:29.71 I fell in love with Him. I want to serve my church. 00:02:29.74\00:02:33.01 I want to serve Christ the rest of my life. 00:02:33.05\00:02:35.32 Wherever I travel, I find my former students 00:02:35.35\00:02:37.75 they said, "You remember I was lazy. 00:02:37.79\00:02:40.32 I did not take my classes seriously. 00:02:40.36\00:02:42.32 But God used you to make a difference in my life." 00:02:42.36\00:02:45.16 I know the same happened with you. 00:02:45.19\00:02:46.96 So please pray for us 00:02:47.00\00:02:48.76 because we are all on the same mission is 00:02:48.80\00:02:52.10 to bring people to Jesus Christ. 00:02:52.13\00:02:55.87 And as we continue in our exploration of the gospel 00:02:55.90\00:02:59.44 according to Matthew, 00:02:59.47\00:03:01.11 all we want to be sure God leads us in our study. 00:03:01.14\00:03:03.11 Let's pray together. Yes. 00:03:03.14\00:03:05.31 Lord, we come. 00:03:05.35\00:03:07.42 We've thoughts and ideas. 00:03:07.45\00:03:09.82 We've training and we've background. 00:03:09.85\00:03:12.85 But more than anything else, we need Your spirit. 00:03:12.89\00:03:15.76 We need you to breakthrough to speak to our hearts, 00:03:15.79\00:03:18.39 to speak to our minds, to draw us to you. 00:03:18.43\00:03:21.56 May we truly sense 00:03:21.60\00:03:23.37 that Your spirit is present with us now 00:03:23.40\00:03:25.50 as we study Your word. 00:03:25.53\00:03:27.20 Be with each viewer, be with each of us 00:03:27.24\00:03:29.50 in Jesus name we pray, amen. Amen. 00:03:29.54\00:03:33.14 All right, Ranko, 00:03:33.17\00:03:34.51 we have been exploring this wonderful book of Matthew. 00:03:34.54\00:03:37.28 We've seen that Jesus has now 00:03:37.31\00:03:39.01 set His face towards Jerusalem. 00:03:39.05\00:03:41.35 He is headed to the cross. 00:03:41.38\00:03:43.79 But there are some things He needs to make sure 00:03:43.82\00:03:45.69 that His disciples understand before He gets there. 00:03:45.72\00:03:48.66 It's interesting as Jesus is moving 00:03:48.69\00:03:51.56 with His disciples towards Jerusalem there, 00:03:51.59\00:03:54.10 He is constantly taking them aside, 00:03:54.10\00:03:57.10 talking with them, trying to serve them 00:03:57.13\00:03:59.73 because He does not have too much time, 00:03:59.77\00:04:02.04 you know, to talk to them. 00:04:02.07\00:04:03.97 And He wants to tell them, 00:04:04.01\00:04:05.94 "I'm going to Jerusalem to die." 00:04:05.97\00:04:07.71 This is what will happen. 00:04:07.74\00:04:09.08 But evidently their interest was in something else. 00:04:09.11\00:04:12.71 So Glenn, I would like to ask you, 00:04:12.75\00:04:14.42 if you can take verses 1 to 6 of Chapter 18. 00:04:14.45\00:04:18.75 We're hearing Chapter 18 at this moment. 00:04:18.79\00:04:20.16 And we remember the disciples came with mixed motives-- 00:04:20.19\00:04:22.96 Mixed motives etcetera. 00:04:22.99\00:04:24.33 With all kinds of other objectives. 00:04:24.36\00:04:26.36 They had some sincerity. Yes, we have to admit that. 00:04:26.39\00:04:28.90 They were sincere people. 00:04:28.93\00:04:30.27 But they also had some misunderstandings. 00:04:30.30\00:04:32.40 Matthew, Chapter 18, verse 1, 00:04:32.43\00:04:34.74 "At that time the disciples came to Jesus saying, 00:04:34.77\00:04:37.44 'Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?' 00:04:37.47\00:04:40.78 Jesus called a little child to Him, 00:04:40.81\00:04:42.78 set him in the midst of them, and said, 00:04:42.81\00:04:45.18 'Assuredly, I tell you, unless you are converted 00:04:45.21\00:04:48.18 and become as little children, 00:04:48.22\00:04:50.25 you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. 00:04:50.29\00:04:52.92 Therefore whoever humbles himself 00:04:52.95\00:04:55.26 as this little child is the greatest 00:04:55.29\00:04:57.33 in the kingdom of heaven. 00:04:57.36\00:04:58.69 Whoever receives one little child like this 00:04:58.73\00:05:01.43 in My name receives me. 00:05:01.46\00:05:03.80 "Whoever causes one of these little ones 00:05:03.83\00:05:06.03 who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him 00:05:06.07\00:05:09.00 if a millstone were hung around his neck 00:05:09.04\00:05:12.17 and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.'" 00:05:12.21\00:05:14.68 Okay. Let's try to understand something here. 00:05:14.71\00:05:17.15 When the disciples ask Jesus, 00:05:17.18\00:05:18.71 who is the greatest in the kingdom? 00:05:18.75\00:05:20.52 Who is the greatest in the kingdom? 00:05:20.55\00:05:22.68 Obviously God. Who has the power? Yeah. 00:05:22.72\00:05:25.42 Who is the greatest in the kingdom 00:05:25.45\00:05:27.82 that person will be next to Jesus in his kingdom. 00:05:27.86\00:05:30.29 They were fighting for position there-- 00:05:30.33\00:05:33.29 there in the kingdom. 00:05:33.33\00:05:35.03 They thought that Jesus was to establish 00:05:35.06\00:05:37.63 that earthly kingdom, but Jesus surprised them. 00:05:37.67\00:05:42.27 They were interested in power, 00:05:42.30\00:05:43.97 but Jesus brings there in the midst, 00:05:44.01\00:05:46.01 He brings a child. 00:05:46.04\00:05:48.08 Now there is something different about 00:05:48.11\00:05:49.44 the eastern view about children, 00:05:49.48\00:05:51.41 in biblical times and children today. 00:05:51.45\00:05:53.35 We're used to when a child comes into the room, 00:05:53.38\00:05:55.45 our conversation stops in the center. 00:05:55.48\00:05:58.45 But, in ancient times the child was what? 00:05:58.49\00:06:00.99 When, when-- adults are talking 00:06:01.02\00:06:04.26 child does not have place there. 00:06:04.29\00:06:06.39 The child is outside. 00:06:06.43\00:06:07.76 It's all outside because--go, go and play, 00:06:07.83\00:06:09.60 you've nothing to do with adults. 00:06:09.63\00:06:10.97 So child is an example of the least. 00:06:11.00\00:06:13.13 Yeah, so Jesus invites the child and He says 00:06:13.17\00:06:17.31 if you do not humble yourself to be like this child, 00:06:17.34\00:06:22.08 you'll actually not 00:06:22.11\00:06:24.28 get into the Kingdom of Heaven. Can you imagine? 00:06:24.31\00:06:26.35 Who is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven? 00:06:26.38\00:06:27.72 Jesus has--if you do not become like this child, 00:06:27.75\00:06:30.49 you don't--not that you're not great, 00:06:30.52\00:06:32.45 but you'll not find yourself there 00:06:32.49\00:06:34.46 in the kingdom of heaven. 00:06:34.49\00:06:35.82 So there is a contrast that we're seeing here. 00:06:35.86\00:06:38.69 They're asking about the greatness 00:06:38.73\00:06:40.70 and He's showing the least. Yes. 00:06:40.73\00:06:42.86 And now Jesus is making to move 00:06:42.90\00:06:45.37 from that Kingdom of Heaven, 00:06:45.40\00:06:47.20 He is moving now to the visibly. 00:06:47.24\00:06:49.37 You remember, we talked about the visible manifestation 00:06:49.40\00:06:51.94 of the Kingdom of Heaven 00:06:51.97\00:06:53.31 and that's actually what the church is. 00:06:53.34\00:06:56.11 And giving the practical instructions, 00:06:56.14\00:06:58.35 if you want to be the great in the kingdom, 00:06:58.38\00:07:01.82 now this is the way how you should live, 00:07:01.85\00:07:04.79 you should live in the church. 00:07:04.82\00:07:06.49 And one of the great problems 00:07:06.52\00:07:07.86 it's--been in so many times in our congregation 00:07:07.89\00:07:11.23 is that same old problem like the disciples 00:07:11.26\00:07:13.13 who is the greatest in my church, 00:07:13.16\00:07:15.20 in my community of faith, 00:07:15.23\00:07:17.17 and Jesus now gonna deal with it, all right. 00:07:17.20\00:07:19.73 So now let's go to what Jesus has done. 00:07:19.77\00:07:22.60 You'll notice how many times 00:07:22.64\00:07:25.67 Jesus uses here the expression "the little ones" 00:07:25.71\00:07:28.74 in verse 6, "The one who causes the little ones." 00:07:28.78\00:07:33.75 Then verse 10, 00:07:33.78\00:07:35.98 "See that you do not despise one of these little ones." 00:07:36.02\00:07:40.92 Let's go verse 14, 00:07:40.96\00:07:42.96 "So it is not the will of our Father who is in heaven 00:07:42.99\00:07:46.33 that one of these little one perishes." 00:07:46.36\00:07:49.10 What Jesus tries to make is that we must be aware 00:07:49.13\00:07:53.20 that in the church, there is a group, 00:07:53.23\00:07:56.37 the Jesus labels or Jesus refers to as the "little one." 00:07:56.40\00:08:00.68 Glenn, if the little ones 00:08:00.71\00:08:02.21 then how we should call another group? 00:08:02.24\00:08:04.58 Well, it's got to be greater. 00:08:04.61\00:08:05.95 The greater ones. 00:08:05.98\00:08:07.32 So there are two groups in the church. 00:08:07.35\00:08:10.95 And what Jesus tried to make very clear is, 00:08:10.99\00:08:14.66 if you are the great one in the church, 00:08:14.69\00:08:18.29 you'll be great by the way you deal 00:08:18.33\00:08:22.43 and you treat 00:08:22.46\00:08:24.07 those little ones there in the church. 00:08:24.10\00:08:26.63 So way to find out how faithful 00:08:26.67\00:08:30.17 I'm in following Jesus is the way I treat the least. 00:08:30.21\00:08:33.38 He's not just talking about age children here, is He? 00:08:33.41\00:08:36.24 Other synoptics,ther synoptics, 00:08:36.28\00:08:39.88 they has-- actually they contain 00:08:39.91\00:08:42.12 and then they mention some other instructions of Jesus. 00:08:42.15\00:08:44.85 When Jesus told them, do you see 00:08:44.89\00:08:46.22 the rulers in the world? 00:08:46.25\00:08:47.69 They take the power. They dictate. 00:08:47.72\00:08:50.09 And they rule other people. 00:08:50.13\00:08:51.59 Keep in mind, they ask who is great in the king of God? 00:08:51.63\00:08:55.20 Jesus said, "Great in the king of God is not the person 00:08:55.23\00:08:58.43 who has the power dictate, dominate other people. 00:08:58.47\00:09:02.77 No, he is the person who tried to treat 00:09:02.80\00:09:07.21 those little ones in the way the Jesus Christ treats them. 00:09:07.24\00:09:12.05 All right. He seems to understand 00:09:12.08\00:09:15.65 human nature very well. Yes. 00:09:15.68\00:09:18.02 And he understands how even though 00:09:18.05\00:09:21.22 we're like the disciples of chosen that follow Jesus. 00:09:21.26\00:09:24.09 We're still struggling. We're still not there yet. 00:09:24.13\00:09:28.56 Now Ranko, there might be little bit of surprise 00:09:28.60\00:09:30.60 where some people say, well the church should be perfect. 00:09:30.63\00:09:32.67 There should be no problems. 00:09:32.70\00:09:34.04 Was that the vision Jesus had? 00:09:34.07\00:09:37.21 Was He unrealistic about his followers? 00:09:37.24\00:09:39.77 Glenn, can we be reminded, we did not have a time 00:09:39.81\00:09:44.15 to go extensively to treat that text. 00:09:44.18\00:09:46.45 In Matthew Chapter 13, Jesus said, 00:09:46.48\00:09:48.98 the Kingdom of Heaven which is the church, 00:09:49.02\00:09:52.35 okay on the earth, that Kingdom of Heaven, 00:09:52.39\00:09:57.33 there are not only good seeds 00:09:57.36\00:09:59.93 but there are also tears. 00:09:59.96\00:10:01.80 And Jesus said 00:10:01.83\00:10:03.16 "until the very Second Coming of Christ, 00:10:03.20\00:10:05.80 the both groups will be in the church." 00:10:05.83\00:10:07.84 We don't want to do it. 00:10:07.87\00:10:09.37 It's not that God is happy because of that. 00:10:09.40\00:10:11.71 And Jesus does not predict that it must be. 00:10:11.74\00:10:15.08 But Jesus said, "This is the reality whether 00:10:15.11\00:10:17.58 we want to accept it or not." 00:10:17.61\00:10:19.51 But until the very Second Coming of Christ, 00:10:19.55\00:10:22.48 there will be two groups together 00:10:22.52\00:10:24.49 and it is only the Second Coming of Christ 00:10:24.52\00:10:26.72 that we'll make separation between the two members. 00:10:26.76\00:10:28.69 And the first thing, we've seen then is 00:10:28.72\00:10:30.29 that one of the things that has to make a difference 00:10:30.33\00:10:32.79 is that those of us in the community of faith need 00:10:32.83\00:10:36.13 to treat those on the fringes, those on the edges, 00:10:36.16\00:10:39.17 those who are the most likely to be 00:10:39.20\00:10:40.80 outcast or rejected. 00:10:40.84\00:10:42.40 How do we treat them? 00:10:42.44\00:10:43.81 Actually, if you notice here verses 7 to 10, the Jesus said, 00:10:43.84\00:10:47.54 "that those little ones, they are sinners." 00:10:47.58\00:10:49.84 There are people who have a problem, 00:10:49.88\00:10:51.31 they're not spiritually strong. 00:10:51.35\00:10:52.81 But Jesus says, 00:10:52.85\00:10:54.18 "If I'm spiritually strong and great person, 00:10:54.22\00:10:57.05 and if I'm a stumbling block to those people," 00:10:57.09\00:11:00.39 do you know what it means stumbling block. 00:11:00.42\00:11:02.26 I can offend people, I can treat them harshly. 00:11:02.29\00:11:05.29 Jesus says, "Is better to me." 00:11:05.33\00:11:08.73 That these are-- Strong lines. 00:11:08.76\00:11:10.77 I'm--I'm afraid to reading those. 00:11:10.80\00:11:12.37 Jesus says, "Put the millstone out of your neck 00:11:12.40\00:11:15.30 and throw yourself in the lake. 00:11:15.34\00:11:16.67 It's better for you to lose this life 00:11:16.71\00:11:18.34 then you one day that you finish in that, in that hell," 00:11:18.37\00:11:22.14 eternal fire that you just mentioned 00:11:22.18\00:11:25.01 at the Second Coming of Christ. 00:11:25.08\00:11:26.41 Fairly that compassion of Jesus 00:11:26.45\00:11:28.62 that we've seen several times in the gospel 00:11:28.65\00:11:30.75 cares deeply how we treat each other. 00:11:30.79\00:11:32.72 And Jesus cares about sinners. Yes. 00:11:32.75\00:11:36.29 By the way, in verse 12, 00:11:36.32\00:11:40.10 Jesus talks about those little ones 00:11:40.13\00:11:43.40 and he compares them with the lost sheep. 00:11:43.43\00:11:47.07 If you go to the gospe of Luke, Chapter 15, 00:11:47.10\00:11:50.04 we have the parable of the lost sheep. 00:11:50.07\00:11:52.24 But, you know, we've the parable of the lost sheep in Luke 15. 00:11:52.27\00:11:55.11 We've the lost coin, and we've the prodigal son. 00:11:55.14\00:11:58.35 Who is the lost sheep in that context? 00:11:58.38\00:12:00.45 Is somebody who left the church and is sinner, 00:12:00.48\00:12:03.15 it's outside of the church, 00:12:03.18\00:12:04.52 and the shepherd goes through them? 00:12:04.55\00:12:05.89 In this context, this sheep is lost in the church. 00:12:05.92\00:12:10.66 The context and the metaphor that Jesus is using, 00:12:13.76\00:12:17.33 He is completely differing them 00:12:17.37\00:12:18.90 from the metaphor of Luke 15. 00:12:18.93\00:12:20.90 The people who are in the church, 00:12:20.94\00:12:22.90 they come, they smile, they have a tie, 00:12:22.94\00:12:25.17 they, you know, everything is nice. 00:12:25.21\00:12:26.68 They're all smiling when they come to a church, 00:12:26.71\00:12:28.71 but those people are lost in the church. 00:12:28.74\00:12:32.55 They've nominal name Christians, 00:12:32.58\00:12:35.05 but they've nothing to do Jesus Christ. 00:12:35.08\00:12:37.12 They are so much oppressed with the problems of this life 00:12:37.15\00:12:40.42 and Jesus says, 00:12:40.46\00:12:41.79 "if you're great in the king of God 00:12:41.82\00:12:44.79 it is your duty to go and to seek 00:12:44.83\00:12:48.73 and look for that sheep, find that sheep, 00:12:48.76\00:12:52.20 and restore her into the fellowship of the flock." 00:12:52.23\00:12:57.14 I'd like to read verse 14, 00:12:57.17\00:12:58.51 "Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven, 00:12:58.54\00:13:01.78 that one of these little ones should perish." 00:13:01.81\00:13:04.78 God's desire is that no one should perish. 00:13:04.81\00:13:08.82 What a beautiful picture! It's a beautiful picture. 00:13:08.85\00:13:11.89 As we, as we work through this process, 00:13:11.92\00:13:14.62 He wants us to catch the heart of God, 00:13:14.66\00:13:16.99 He wants us to have the love for the ones 00:13:17.03\00:13:18.79 who would perish just like the Father does. 00:13:18.83\00:13:20.96 There is something else. 00:13:21.03\00:13:22.36 In verse 13 says, when that strong one, 00:13:22.40\00:13:25.83 the great one into church finds that sheep 00:13:25.87\00:13:29.27 that is lost in the church, "He finds truly, 00:13:29.30\00:13:31.87 I say to you he rejoices over it more than over 99, 00:13:31.91\00:13:37.31 which have not gone astray." 00:13:37.35\00:13:39.75 There is a joy when a sinner comes back to God. 00:13:39.78\00:13:43.15 Now there is a question. 00:13:43.18\00:13:44.52 I know that the viewers are asking the question, 00:13:44.55\00:13:47.86 what does it mean that we go and seek for the sheep? 00:13:47.89\00:13:51.09 How we are supposed to seek that sheep? 00:13:51.13\00:13:53.83 I don't, I don't know, I don't know, 00:13:53.86\00:13:55.30 who is that little one that is lost? 00:13:55.33\00:13:57.13 Right after, right after the break Jesus give us 00:13:57.17\00:13:59.60 detailed instructions actually how to seek for the sheep. 00:13:59.63\00:14:02.44 Ranko, you've raised the question. 00:14:02.47\00:14:04.01 We're gonna have to come back for 00:14:04.04\00:14:05.37 the answer right after the break. 00:14:05.41\00:14:06.74 We'll be right back. 00:14:06.78\00:14:08.11