Hi I'm Dr. Kim Logan
Nowlan and I'm Arthur Nowlan
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And welcome to Making It Work.
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You know Arthur we were so
blessed to have a wonderful
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guest with us and he was
gracious enough to come back to
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do part two for us.
Welcome back Jerrell Shine.
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We have opportunity for you
to share your testimony about
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losing your
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mother, your grandmother and
your little cousin by gunshots
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by your cousin and we know it's
been a difficult time this last
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month or so since February 14th.
Around that time around February
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15th. So now your back to talk
about with us some of the impact
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I want to know how their lives
and them not being in your life
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any more physically has impacted
you to change or has it changed
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you? Well yes
it's changed for the
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best because I now understand
that I have to live for them and
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I cannot let my mother and
my grandmother's name go down in
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vain. I must be the person who
stands firm and show the world
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that you can lose the key pieces
to your life but not lose it
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mentally. When you see me you
see a guy that hasn't lost it
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mentally. Because
you could have lost it
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at that moment when you saw your
grandmother and mother lying
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there and you could have just
lost it right then and there.
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Most definitely. But
what kept your mind together
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what was it that said not, no?
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I realized everything that my
mother always told me, how she
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raised me. She always said well
Jerrell if something happens to
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me make sure you take care of
your brother and your sisters.
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Take care of your son, take care
of your family. She needs me now
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more than ever and this is my
time that I have to step up and
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be the man that
I've always been.
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How are your siblings responding
to you, as being like now the
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leader of the family.
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Well, me and my stepfather are
like he's plan A captain. I'm
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like plan B captain. So he's
the overseer and I'm right there
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making sure the kids do what
he says. But I've always been in
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their lives. I've changed
their Pampers and made bottles.
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Me and my mother used to bathe
them in the kitchen sink so it's
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not like I'm just now coming
into their lives. I've always
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been there.
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Whenever you hear on the news
someone has been shot or killed
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what happens to you at that
moment? Do you watch the news?
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Previously or now. Now.
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Now I can't watch it. About
a few weeks ago the show called
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The First 48 was on and it
got to the part where the family
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showed up to the crime scene and
got thefallen out and I was able
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to identify with their pain.
I started feeling a little weak
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and I had to turn it. It's hard
for me to watch because there's
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a lot of
violence on every station.
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Every time you turn around
there's something happening.
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We're talking about choices if
you're just joining us and the
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choices that this young man is
now making. What do you do for a
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living? What I do
for a living is I'm a
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part time student and
I'm a high load truck driver.
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Okay. What does a
high load truck driver do?
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You pick up stuff that's too
heavy that a man cannot pick up
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himself and drive it
from point A to point B.
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Okay. So you do this 8
hours every day. Yes ma'am.
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And then you come back and
you go to school. Yes ma'am.
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All right. Then you repeat
it every day. Are you in school
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every day?
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No I'm not. I go
like three times a week.
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Okay. And we talked about
your career choice is mortuary
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science. Yes
ma'am. Why that field?
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For one my mom always
told me come up with a plan and
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the plan I came up with
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was... I said where can I go to
school for that's not going to
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lay off or get slow. And I
just come up like medicine, law.
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You know medicine or law so I
came up with mortuary science.
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People die every day and I have
the heart and the brain and the
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mental capacity
to get the job done.
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How about your spirituality. You
know how all of this, all the
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things that you've
experienced affected you in your
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relationship with God?
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Well affect. I wouldn't use the
work affect. It hasn't affected
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me. Now what it has done for me
was get me closer to God because
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now I really understand that you
got to put some stuff in God's
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hands. You can't get it
done by yourself, so to speak.
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With that being said, what about
the siblings, your brothers. Do
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you have a brother and sister?
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I have a 17-year-old brother
and a 15-year-old sister.
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So do they attend church with
you or do they go on a regular
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basis? Yes they
go on a regular basis
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and my sister, she's praise team
choir. My brother he just sits
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there and listens to the
music. But my sister, she's very
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involved, she's very involved.
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So how were you there for
them knowing the tragedy that
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occurred. I mean how
did you support them?
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Okay, well. Honestly at first
I would say it was hard for me
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to support them because I had
my own issues that I was dealing
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with. I believe the way I
was coming off was probably a
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little scared for them because
they never saw me emotional.
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They never saw me cry, they
never saw me fall down on the
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floor. They've never seen me
like that because they always
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saw me as their big brother,
the guy they could turn to for
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strength and at that point of
time I believe they saw a weak
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man and not really realizing
that I was just frustrated and
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just hurt and confused.
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Was that for a period of
time because we're talking about
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something that happened.
Did this expression of emotions
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occur like over months or was...
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Well honestly it's gotten better
At first I couldn't control it.
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I just could not control it.
I would sit up and sit there and
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I would hear a song, Marvin
Gates song, I Want You and
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that's one of my mother's
favorite songs and it was just
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hard for me and my brother
actually to listen to it, you
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know, her music.
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Your aunt, your mother's sister,
was planning to get married
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during that time when you lost
your mom and grandmother and
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she recently got married.
Yes ma'am. And you attended the
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wedding. Yes I did. How is
your aunt doing because she lost
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a mother and a sister
and a niece. How's she doing?
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Well she doing. I can't say
she's doing great. Like I said
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about everyone in my immediate
family but that best thing about
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her getting married was she got
married April 5th. That was the
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weekend we were all supposed to
be in Montego Bay together. But
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that was the first day
since February 15 that I had a
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genuine smile. I had a genuine
like ahh, like a sigh of relief
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when I saw her and her husband
come through that door for the
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first time. I said, thank God,
there is a God. Now we finally
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have some type of hope and
uplifting type of event besides
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a funeral. Because at that point
we had been to three funerals
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in a matter of six weeks. So
you know I'm completely numb.
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So after experiencing that
lift did you kind of transfer
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emotions to your aunt because
you lost your mom, you lost your
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grandmother? So do you transfer
some of those feelings towards
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your aunt be try to put her
in the role of your mom or your
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grandmother? Well
honestly, my mom and my
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grandmother they're like their
own type of people. I could
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never replace my mother and
my grandma with an aunt but what
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I can do is build our
relationship, make it stronger
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and hopefully
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we can just be one again.
Because the family will never
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be the same, never, ever, ever.
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Are you angry at your other
Aunt, your cousin Dee's mother
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when you see her and you saw her
at your cousin's funeral. Was
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she at the wedding?
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Yes she was.
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What's your
relationship with her?
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Well my relationship with her
is we still have a relationship
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like I said. She's always been
a second mom to me. She's never
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made me feel unwanted,
unappreciated. Every Christmas,
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every birthday, every graduation
every good deed in my I life
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that I as involved in, she was
there with my mother. So I can't
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just turn my back on her
because she still has a place
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in my heart. I'm going to always
love her. I'm going to always
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love her.
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Do you know if she's
seen her son, your cousin?
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I'm not for sure.
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But you haven't asked
or anything like that?
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I don't inquire about
anything that has to do...
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But you stated that
you will attend the trial.
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Oh, yes indeed, yes indeed. Only
to make sure justice prevails
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Do you think he
will speak at the trial?
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I don't know what he will do.
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No you if they ask for that.
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Oh most definitely. Yes indeed.
I'm going to speak. See when I
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speak I'm speaking for my mom,
my grandma and my seven-year-
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old cousin. If anyone says
Jerrell Shine, can you speak on
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the subject of your mother, your
grandmother and your baby cousin
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yes I'll jump up and
I'll speak in front whoever.
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What about the communication
that you have your aunt? Is it
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difficult for you to
communicate with her?
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It's not difficult but that's
his mother so you know it would
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just difficult to know someone
for 29 years and then all of a
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sudden you just
can't talk to them.
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But Jerrell, come on, let's
be real you know if I could just
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go there with you. This woman
is your aunt. Her son killed
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your grandmother, your mother,
your baby cousin, which is his
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own child. The anger, the rage
you know, I want to take it out
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on somebody, but your not. I
mean I look at you, you're cool,
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calm and collected as if nothing
has happened. Where's all this
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restraint coming from?
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Is that really how I look?
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That's how you look.
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It looks like you are really,
really in control of everything.
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Everything in your life is well
and I don't have a problem in
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the world.
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No, that's not how I look, you
know. Someone other they said
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well you're looking good, you
look good. In order to look like
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this, you got to go through a
lot of heartache and pain. You
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got to really hit the floor a
couple of times. If your knees
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give out you can't stand so
you're only going to hit the
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floor so... I'm in control.
I feel like we all have choices
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that can be made. Like I said
once before just because someone
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kills your mother, your
grandmother and your baby cousin
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doesn't mean you have to
lose your mind because they lost
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theirs. Now that
makes a lot of sense
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yes. I really respect that
answer. That takes a lot of
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strength for you to even say
that. But we're still dealing
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with the fact that your mom and
your grandma and you baby cousin
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were murdered by someone and you
really don't have an answer to
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why it was done even though
there may be some things said,
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or speculations,
but you really don't
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have that
answered and you seem to be
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dealing with all this in a way.
I would attribute to you being
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able to communicate of why your
dealing with these things to
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your relationship with God. That
would be my first thought. Yes.
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I don't know if there's any
other motivation behind this.
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Motivation. I have a three-year-
old son, okay, I have a three-
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year-old son. My biological
father went to prison when I was
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three years old. Okay. He
got out when I was eighteen.
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I refuse
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to leave my son out in
this world with just his mom and
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extended family because when
you're dealing with a child no
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one would love a child like
their mother and their father.
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And that's my motivation and
I hear my mom. My mom raised me
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under strict discipline.
That's how come I'm able to be
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disciplined in a time like this.
Not turning my anger and rage
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towards anyone else in society.
My mother just raised me to be
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a disciplined, responsible,
independent young man and
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why hopefully the world
will be able to see that.
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Jerrell, you never got
in trouble when you were in
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elementary school, middle high
school. Did you ever go to jail
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or juvenile. I
never been to juvenile but
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yes, yes I went to jail before.
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Can I ask you for what reason?
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Yes you may. I went to jail
for fleeing and eluding in 2004,
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April 7, 2004. What
did your mother do to you?
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Well what my mom did was first
of all she never supported me.
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Ever since I was little my
mother and my grandma said if
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you go to jail, don't call me.
That's how my family operates
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because they were letting me
known as a child that you can't
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just get away with doing any
and everything and think we have
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your back because we're not.
So what did my mom do? My mom,
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she never came to court, I
paid my own way out of that.
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She never put anything on
nothing. My mother was about
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the right thing, not the wrong
thing. Because if your involved
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in something wrong Sayonara.
But if it's a good deed I'm your
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number one fan. I'm rooting for
you baby, I'm rooting for you.
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But something bad,
she'd turn her back.
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So how did you rebuild her trust
in the relationship? At that
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time how old were you?
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I was 20, I was 20.
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So how did you rebuild her trust
with you. Mom, I hear you mom
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and I'm going to turn this
around. Mom please don't close
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the door on me. What did you do?
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What did I do? Um, I believe I
became a man. I believe I became
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a man. It's not about
chronological age. It's about
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mental capacity. I believe
I became a man. I just grew. I
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made the decision to go back
to school. Made a decision never
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to implicate certain actions in
front of my younger brother so
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it would entice him to do
certain things. Just always
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guiding my brother and my
sister in the right way. I used
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to say Mom you know, when I
graduate college you know that's
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my way of repaying you back
for whatever I've done bad as a
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child. And she would say, you
wasn't a bad kid. I'd say well
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mom you know I got in
trouble and she's like real...
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I worked for the prison system.
You're not a bad kid. I know bad
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children. She was just like
you're just a young man. You had
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to find your way and
thank God you found it.
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So she wasn't trying to be your
friend. She was actually being
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a parent. Your
mother parented you.
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My mother was my mother.
I got to make this clear. My
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mother's a million percent
heterosexual. My mother was my
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mother, my uncle and my father
all in one meaning she wasn't
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oh you want
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some more supper let me... She
was get in there and do what I
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told you to do. Do it right the
first time and you won't have
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to do it again.
Very stern, very stern.
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And that's how
she raised you? Yes.
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Let me ask you about
your relationship with your
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biological dad. He was in prison
from four up until age eighteen.
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Three to 15 years.
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Okay and how is your
relationship with him now?
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Well my father passed
in 2010. July 20th, 2010.
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So how was the
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relationship when he
finally came out of the prison?
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Honestly it was sort of like
the same of being in prison.
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Really. So you didn't get
a chance to really develop a
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sincere
relationship with him. No sir.
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Okay. What about his relatives?
Did you deal much as far as
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interacting with them?
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I'll be honest with you. My
father's family believe it or
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not by me never being able
to have a relationship with my
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father, I feel like my father's
side of the family has always
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compensated for that. My grandma
...?, I credit her and my
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grandfather Johnny Wilson, Jr.
for me having this yes ma'am,
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no ma'am, no sir, yes
sir thing about myself.
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So repeat that again. So you say
yes sir, and no ma'am, you use
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that even now to
this day as a young man?
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Yes ma'am.
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I want to thank you. I believe
in that same theory. I don't
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know what has happened to our
society where we can say yeah,
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naw, uh-huh to our parents. What
has happened. And even to my
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mother to this day it's yes
ma'am, no ma'am, yes sir. Even
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I don't care where I am I give
that respect. I think that's a
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good characteristic to have.
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Of course it is. I think it's
really important and then coming
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from a young black man
who's being raised up with some
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challenges and you still was
able to hold on to that dynamic
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that you got from your
grandparents. That's really
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important. But you never had an
opportunity to really sit down
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and talk to your biological
dad about your feelings.
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No, no I haven't.
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Is that something that you
wanted to do? Did you ever have
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a desire to do it or were
you angry about the fact that he
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was locked up?
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Well honestly I can't sit before
you just so to speak dog my
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father on. It was a two-way
street. The day I got the call
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from my daddy stating that
Jerrell, your father, had a
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heart attack in his house.
That's the day, July 20th it was
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like 2:30 p. m. 2010. I was
coming from Sports Authority
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with my younger brother and
that's the day that all of a
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sudden all those negative
feelings had just left my body.
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It was like oh Jesus, now at
first I had a choice whether I
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could call him or not. I'm not
going to call, not going to call
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just because I had a choice but
when I got that call saying that
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your father has passed, I was so
devastated and hurt that I had
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been being selfish. I was a
grown man just like my father
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was at that time. You know, I
could have took the initiative
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to call him. I had his phone
number. He had mine. You know
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I would call him ever so often
but we never got a chance to
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develop a relationship and I
look just like my father, just
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like him, just like him.
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And that's also your motivation
for you not to be placed in a
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situation where you
would be incarcerated.
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Yes, yes, yes. I remember
how it felt as a young boy.
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That's really important.
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Do you think you had a fear
when you got in trouble that you
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you were going in the same
direction as you father? Did she
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ever talk about
that. You cannot do this.
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We never talked about that.
Okay We never talked about me
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following in the footsteps of my
father because I didn't have the
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desire to be like him. I wasn't
a kid who ran in and out of
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jail. I wasn't like that. I made
one or two choices, one or two
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bad mistakes and paid the
consequences for it. I moved on.
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It's not cool. It's not fun.
It's not nothing to be glorified
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to go to jail or prison. There's
nothing interesting about
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about standing in a courtroom
and your fate is in other
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people's hands. That's not hip.
It's much more hipper to go to
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college, get a Ph. D. get
masters bachelors whatever
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whatever degrees you can. That's
cool to me. That's what I want
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to tell the young guys standing
at the gas station with their
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pants down to here. You know,
I know how they think. I used to
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think like them but I told
my mother, I say mom if I can go
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back to college and graduate
any one of these young guys can.
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From Lynnwood, from Bright more,
Flint all over the east side
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of Detroit.
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Any one of them can. When they
look at me they're looking at
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themselves actually.
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I think the relationship with
God stands out. That to me is
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the motivation for you to
continue to do the things that
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you're doing in the
positive manner. Yes Sir. You're
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relationship with
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God as you have expressed those
feelings here today and also in
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the last segment that we
completed with you that stands
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out even more. Your desire to
be successful, that stands out.
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I think what was said about
why you do the things you do is
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really, really important. I
think there are some young men
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that may be looking at this
program right now that needed
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to hear that from you because
you are a success story. I don't
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know all the dynamics that were
involved in you being raised the
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way you were and the
circumstances that happened in
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your life but I know God has his
hand on you and I know that with
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your desire to be successful,
your desire to maintain your
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relationship with him you have
accomplished some mighty, mighty
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things in your life.
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Jerrell, can you look at that
camera. We're just going to let
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you talk to the young men and
young people out there and let
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them know that you can make it,
they can make it with God's help
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Just talk into that camera.
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Okay well I've actually been
waiting on this chance to spread
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the word to the younger
generation. I'm 29 years old. I
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was born in 1983 in Detroit,
Michigan. I've been here ever
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since 1983. I moved to Alabama
in the early 1990s and came back
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I've witnessed a lot of things
from the so called street life
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glorifying drug dealers, seeing
them shot down and killed. I've
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witnessed family turn on family.
So what I'm trying to say is we
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all have choices. When you've
seen the things that I've seen
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there was a point of time in
my life 10 years ago I wouldn't
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be carrying myself like this.
I would be carrying a gun trying
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to hurt someone because of my
inner pain dealing with what I'm
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dealing with but if I can stand
up anybody can. Put the guns
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down, pick up a book, pick
up a college catalog book, go to
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the college, talk to an academic
advisor and move on with your
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life. There's nothing cool about
getting 30, 40 years in prison
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by the age of 22. There's
nothing fun about being in a
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prison facility and 30 guys
can bang your head in and do
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whatever they want to do to
you. That's not cool. So stop
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throwing stones at the
penitentiary. Pick up a book,
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pick up a pen, a pencil, start
writing down your goals, your
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short term goals, long term
goals for five years, 10 years
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even 15 years. Take care of your
kids if you're having kids. Even
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if you got four different kids
by four different women, take
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care of them in each household.
That's what real men do. And I'm
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glad I had the
chance to speak to you all.
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You know what, I think about the
challenges that we're all facing
00:26:47.37\00:26:50.67
today in these last days. But
the most important book that we
00:26:50.71\00:26:54.01
all can pick up is the word
of God and be able to spread the
00:26:54.08\00:26:57.38
message. There's hope, there's
love and there's healing in the
00:26:57.45\00:27:01.42
name of Jesus. To you right now
all you have to do is call upon
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the name of Jesus and he
is there to help you through
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whatevere you're going through.
I just want to thank you,
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Jerrell for God blessing you
to place you in my life, in my
00:27:12.53\00:27:16.16
classroom and for something you
saw in me and I prayed every day
00:27:16.20\00:27:20.57
that's it's Jesus Christ
that my students see and that we
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continue to go forward. I
want you to know you have a link
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and a support system with my
husband and I and we thank God
00:27:26.24\00:27:29.04
for you. I really,
really admire the fact
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that you're here and
representing your generation
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and you have the desire to do
the things that are right. With
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your education it's going to be
an asset. So if your listening,
00:27:41.92\00:27:47.73
listen to this young man
and try to model yourself after
00:27:47.76\00:27:51.83
some of the things that
are really being shown by the
00:27:51.87\00:27:55.94
demonstration of his character.
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Well we want to think all
of you I'm Dr. Kim Logan Nowlan
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I'm Arthur Nowlan.
Continue to make good choices.
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God bless.
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