Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan
Nowlin. I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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And welcome to Making it Work.
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Arthur, do you think
about taking the journey
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and coming home again,
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what type of
expression or fuss do you have?
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I think, when I
hear something like that
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it's basically
have another opportunity
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to be with people I
know, to be with friends.
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Okay.
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You know, so those
are some of the things
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that I think about.
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Well, I think about enthusiasm,
I think about the excitement
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I'm gonna have when I see Jesus.
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Well, today on Making it Work,
we have a very special guest
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and a friend,
Mrs. Cherlyn Rupert.
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Welcome to Making
it Work. Thank you.
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Well, we want you
to tell your story,
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tell your
testimony, share with us,
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you know was it was
like growing up at Burns
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and then there was a shift,
and then you came home again.
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So we want Cherlyn
Rupert to tell her story.
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Okay, I
originally came to Detroit
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in 1982, and I
was, attended Burn.
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At that time, I had two
little girls at that time.
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And Burns having
received me so well.
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I felt comfortable, it
was like being at home.
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And so, until today, I feel like
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when I go home I go to Burns,
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although I am at
a different church,
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our city temple.
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But my life went
on and I was here,
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I was married at that time
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with my husband in the Military.
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Yes.
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We had the two girls,
and later on I had a son.
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During the time of
my life, my daughter,
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my youngest
daughter joined the Military.
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And at the time my
husband and my daughter
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both being in the
military at the time of the war.
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They, one went to Iraq
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and the other one
went to Afghanistan.
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And I was left at
home and I strayed away.
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What do you mean strayed away?
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I strayed away from the
church, I strayed away from God,
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and I strayed away
from my upbringings,
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the things I was taught.
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My mother's a retired
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Seventh-day Adventist's teacher.
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And so I feel like I
was born in the church.
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But to came back to where I was,
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I guess I was drawn
in with other things,
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meeting other people,
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and just trying to adapt
to the change in my life,
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and I lost my way.
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I did things that I
was taught not to do,
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it was never interested in,
but during that time, you know,
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how the devil wait
right at your weakest time,
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at your weakest moment,
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and then that's
when he does his thing.
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Of course. Okay.
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So I lived in that worldly
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crazy state of
mind for years, I did.
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And so that's why
you didn't see me,
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but I knew that I needed
to stay somewhere affiliated
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and associated with the church.
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So I started
going to city temples,
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and I took my daughters
and my son to city temple,
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and then I
strayed away from there,
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and go back from there.
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But the good thing
about it, God never let me go.
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Come on, Cherlyn.
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Okay, if God kept me
where I needed to be,
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all had to do is reach
out, reach out for him.
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And I hear what
you're saying that, you know,
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on this two different occasions,
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you strayed away.
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What was the some other
things that was pulling you?
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I heard that you just kind
of involved with the worldly,
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I guess events that
had happened in your life.
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But what was some
of the worst things
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that cause you to stray
away, what was putting you away?
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Okay, the things that I
was going through was marriage,
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problems, and
situations, and children.
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You know, I am
thousands of miles
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away from my home,
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and at that time
I was the only...
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And your home means where?
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Louisiana. Louisiana.
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Oh, Shreveport,
Louisiana. Really?
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Yes, and I was the member of
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the Philadelphia
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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in Shreveport, Louisiana.
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So my family that was there,
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we lost connection,
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I felt battle
alone and felt lost,
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somehow felt like
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everything was
on me to do at home.
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My husband was gone
with Military three months
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at that time.
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And just, he's not a
Seventh-day Adventist
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and I am.
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And it's hard sometime
when you have that difference
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in a
relationship with your spouse.
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You know, you
want them to be there.
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And there is so much
to learn in the religion,
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we're always
talking, and teaching,
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and discussing things that,
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you know, you just want
your significant other there
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to hear what's going on.
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It's like, good,
oh, this is good news,
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you need me here
so you can hear this.
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And it just escalate and...
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So did you get angry?
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I mean, because he wasn't there
and you felt that, you know,
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because he wasn't with you
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that even have
any purpose, I mean?
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No, I didn't get
angry, I felt like I was alone
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because I was determined
to bring my children to church
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and teach them,
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because my mom always
told me and my sister that,
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"I don't have anything
else to give you, but God."
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All right.
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And so she made sure that we
study Sabbath school lessons,
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and read the Bible,
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and remembered the memory versus
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and everything.
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But, like in just growing up,
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people introduced things to you.
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But until you
witness it for yourself
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and go through
some things yourself,
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have trails then you
really don't understand them.
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So I thought I had a
relationship with God,
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because I had
been through something,
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and been in the military,
and out, and married, and kids,
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and so I thought I was okay.
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But it wasn't until I
lost my connection with God
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that I turned to other thing
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smoking, drinking
and worldly things,
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things that is totally
different from my upbringing.
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So where was your husband,
was he still in military?
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I mean, did you like
come together at times?
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I mean, he will come
home or come to the Detroit,
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wherever you were?
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Oh, yes, he will come home.
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But even with that I felt like
I had to be the strong person
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and keeping things
going while he's way.
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As I said, he would be gone
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for like three months at a time.
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And it's hard on a relationship,
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especially when you have
kids, and different things,
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you know, just everyday
life, financial situations.
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But doing it on we
struggled through it, and,
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but I couldn't get it
together for myself, you know,
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I just turned, so I
turned to that side of things
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for comfort.
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So, in the mean time
did you and your husband
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discuss the change
that you were going through?
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I mean, did he recognize
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that there was
difference in you?
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Yes, yes, we did discuss
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and we did
counseling and everything,
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everything turned out okay,
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but it was all on me then.
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You know, it was all
my problem, everything,
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I showed up everything,
I took up everything,
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and so that's what happened.
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The finances
was coming from him?
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Finance was coming
from him, I was working.
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I worked at the city of Detroit,
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I've been there all the time.
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And then, I took on extra hours
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and I started
working at Cobo Hall,
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and which just opened my
world of to hold lot of things.
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You know,
meeting different people,
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Mayor, Governors you know,
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you can imagine and
having different events.
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And I worked, I was working
so I didn't know how much,
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I have worked until
the end of that year
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when we added up
and did our taxes.
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And I couldn't believe it,
I said, "I worked that much?"
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My goodness!
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See, so, that's how
out of control you can get
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when you don't stay
focus on what's important.
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And what it has been
and should have been to me
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was my relationship with God.
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But through it all,
God didn't let me go.
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Let me ask you a
question, sweet heart.
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When you were
coming to visit church
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and you would see
us, and you would see,
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you know, the familiar faces,
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did you ever feel uncomfortable?
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Did you at any times saying,
"I don't fit in here anymore,
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you know, or I've
got make some changes
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so that I can feel
comfortable again."
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Did you ever think that?
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I did, I felt uncomfortable,
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and I felt like it
wasn't enough smiles,
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it wasn't friendly at that time.
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But even more than that
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I knew the problem was not them,
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the problem was me, you
know. I changed, I saw it,
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when I looked in the mirror
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I didn't like
that person, you know.
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So I was intact
enough to realize that
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you are out of line, you know,
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talking to myself in the mirror.
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And I would just cried
many days, many nights.
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Really?
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And you think about the people
who come in with the façade,
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the mask in
church, on their jobs,
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even in your homes,
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just trying to exist,
not living but existing.
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And it sounds like
that's where you work,
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cause you work
crime, you were depressed.
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Were you depressed? I
was depressed and crying.
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And the thing
about it is nobody knew.
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Nobody knew. I'm sure, no.
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Let me follow with
something, you know,
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and you actually just
really made an emphasis
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on some of the things
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that people are
trying to address
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with a military personal.
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And here it is that
you went to that process,
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but it became really
a difficult task for you
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because your husband
was away in military,
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you were left
with responsibilities.
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How, do you think that a lot
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of spouses that who are not,
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I guess, familiar dealing
with, say that goings on,
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or dealing with all the things
that's require to run a family,
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you think that may be
they may really experience
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some of the same difficulties
that you experience?
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Yes, I'm sure they do.
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Because I was
fortunate to go to a meal
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that they had
for the dependence,
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and I spoke with the
few of the ladies there,
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and became quiet
friendly with them.
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And it's quiet
normal, it's in the homes,
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we still have to do,
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everything has to
you know, remain the same
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especially when
you have children.
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It's hard, it's not easy.
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But I'm so happy
that the First Lady
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is addressing these concerned.
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And every time I hear her
speak of the different programs
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that they have
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and all the things
they're starting to do,
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it makes me really happy
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because we have to
do all of the things
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I can remember once,
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one time my husband
was going off to tour
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and they had us all to sit down
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and they briefed us
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of what we're supposed
to do while they are away.
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And it was everything, it
was absolutely everything.
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So they breathe
you on paying bills
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and things like that.
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Yes, they let us know
that don't bother them
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while they're doing that
because they're in you know,
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a dangerous situation or
whatever their mission is,
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or whatever their job is.
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So they want us to
you know, just hold,
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you care the
weight while they do that.
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So while that was going
on, let's bring it back to you
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coming back to Christ,
you coming back to the lord.
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Who was watching your children
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while you were out
there doing your thing?
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What was going on
with your children?
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My daughter and my
family, actually it was,
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my husband's family mostly,
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because I really
don't have much family here.
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And, so they were there.
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And what you were doing,
when you drop the children off.
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Some knew, and some would
just come to my home, you know.
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And, but they
were supportive. Okay.
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And they didn't understand.
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They knew that I
was out of character.
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But they didn't have,
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they didn't have an
idea of how bad I was.
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My problem was
more on the inside,
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just ripping, just you
know, destroy myself on inside,
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my thoughts were not good.
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You know my, it
affected my body.
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And you know I
was sick physically.
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So you became depressed?
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I was depressed. Yeah.
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Did you go to counseling?
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I went to counseling but
even with the counseling,
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the Counselor, she said,
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"Well, if you need
anything let me know,
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but its sounds like you
have everything under control."
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Well, you didn't have
anything under control.
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I didn't have it under control.
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And as far as she was
concern, she probably did see
00:16:01.16\00:16:06.29
that I had it under
control, but she didn't realize
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that I had lost my best
friend, I had lost my life,
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you know because that
was brought up loving guy,
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teaching guy, preaching guy,
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living that
relationship with God.
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And I didn't have it.
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I felt betrayed, I felt
like, okay, I'm on my own,
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I have to deal with
this, I can't bother him,
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I can't bother my husband
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with the thing
that's going on at home.
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So I carried
them and I held them.
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So your home,
actually how did you felt that
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because your husband was away,
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because the momentary had
talked you about what to do,
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you couldn't contact
your husband and you know,
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tell him some the
things that you were feeling
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because you felt
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that would be too much
weight for him to bear.
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Right, it wasn't the thing
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that we were
supposed to do anyway.
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And, and I can understand that
being a new military myself,
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I can understand he
had... You served in military?
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Yes, that's where we
met. That's where you met.
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What branch in the
military? The army.
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Is that right?
00:17:20.77\00:17:22.10
So you met with your
husband in the military?
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Yes. Where were you stationed?
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Fort Jackson, South
Carolina, that's Columbia.
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South Carolina. Okay.
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Well, you know, the
programs that are available now,
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you're right.
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There's a lot of programs
for supporting families,
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but by you not
really having those programs
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available to you, there
may be even more difficult.
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You have to rely on
family, and once again,
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you, as communicated,
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your relationship
with God has deteriorated.
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Did you feel like, yet,
God had turned away from you?
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I felt something like that.
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I felt you know, just to try
and describe it, I felt like,
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Well, God, why?
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Why did you allow me to
get in this relationship,
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allow me to marry this person?
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And then this happen.
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I wasn't in touch with things,
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but, and then I was
young, actually I was young.
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We were both
young when we marry,
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we were both young when
we were in the military.
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But I don't
necessarily blame God,
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but I was a little disappointed
that things didn't turn out
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the way I thought they
should have in my life.
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Because when I
was in college I said,
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I didn't have really
big goals for myself,
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I wanted to be married.
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Excuse me.
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I wanted to be married,
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and I wanted to
have two children,
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and I want it to not work.
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But I did... Stay at home.
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I was gonna be a
stay at home mom.
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But let me say something
before you go on, that is,
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and I want to say
this to all the women,
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and single parents, and parents.
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Being a parent, being a wife
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is a great
calling, a great calling.
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And we don't want
to play their down
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because it is crucial
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to the
upbringing of our children.
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So I think those
are outstanding goals
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you have for yourself.
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Yes, it is, it is a great call.
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And if I had to
work, I want it to do that
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and I wanted to help my husband.
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And that was the whole
thing about the working part.
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But now, that I am
older and I've been working,
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I actually like
working outside the home.
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And when I was in the home
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I enjoy being at
home with my children
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and bring them up.
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But as I
strayed away from church
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and I was at work
one day, and I said, "
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"Look, I'll go and
get something to eat.
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And as I was going
through the skywalk
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at the Coleman A.
Young Municipal Center...
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Located in the
Detroit, Michigan.
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As I was going
over to the milliner,
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I saw one of the
members at city temple,
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Harry Logan.
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Yeah, oh, Harry. I love her.
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And I often say
she saved my life.
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Praise the Lord.
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Because I have told her.
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She said, well, she
said, "Where have you been?"
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She said, "It's
so good to see you,"
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and she hugged me as a welcome.
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"I miss you, and I love
you. Where have you been?"
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It was like a
family member being away
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you know, for long time.
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And I received that,
I received their love.
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And I said, "Harry, I
have been through so much
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and I am not right now.
00:21:12.10\00:21:14.40
I have this problem, that
problem, this is going on,
00:21:14.44\00:21:18.21
and that is going on."
00:21:18.24\00:21:19.57
She said,
"Well, I tell you what,
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bring all of that to
church and come back."
00:21:21.68\00:21:26.11
She said, "Because that
is where you can get heal.
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That's where we can
love you and get you back
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to where you need to be?
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And just bring it to the church,
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bring it to the
Lord, and leave it there."
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And that's what I did.
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So with that
feeling of a lovingness,
00:21:45.70\00:21:49.50
that connected you to
come back to city temple?
00:21:49.54\00:21:52.64
Yes.
00:21:52.67\00:21:54.01
And then what
happened after that?
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Glad to tell you,
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Cherlyn is on fire for the lord.
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She leads out
with the praise team.
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You will see her,
no one else stands up,
00:22:00.45\00:22:02.45
and shouts in church,
00:22:02.48\00:22:03.99
all I have to do is
look to the right side of me
00:22:04.02\00:22:06.15
and this woman does,
she's shouting, she's praising.
00:22:06.19\00:22:09.72
Don't everything,
but running up and down.
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I am just wait for that.
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But what is that gives you
all this fire and excitement?
00:22:13.29\00:22:17.67
It's the love
and the relationship.
00:22:17.70\00:22:22.67
Excuse me.
00:22:22.70\00:22:24.04
That I finally
got back and renewed.
00:22:24.07\00:22:29.48
Actually, it's a
new relationship.
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It's a new
relationship with God.
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How soon after seeing
Harry did you come back?
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It took a while.
It took a months.
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Month, okay.
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I was so, to tell
you how low I was,
00:22:46.63\00:22:50.80
I couldn't come on my own.
00:22:50.83\00:22:53.17
I would ask my daughter's
help me to get back to church.
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I need to go. I
need to go there.
00:22:56.20\00:22:58.94
And I never ever
thought in my life
00:22:58.97\00:23:02.74
that I would be in this place.
00:23:02.78\00:23:05.25
You know, I never
thought that I could go there.
00:23:05.28\00:23:08.52
And that's why
anytime I see anybody come in,
00:23:08.55\00:23:14.16
and I know I haven't
seeing them in a while,
00:23:14.19\00:23:17.56
I go to them and I
tell them, "How are you?
00:23:17.59\00:23:21.36
Come on, I missed
you. Come back, come back."
00:23:21.40\00:23:24.73
And actually, I
am in a position now,
00:23:24.77\00:23:27.94
working at the
finance assessor's office
00:23:27.97\00:23:32.51
to help people.
00:23:32.54\00:23:34.34
I see people that I
haven't seen in a years.
00:23:34.38\00:23:37.25
And I've seen
members, some of our members,
00:23:37.28\00:23:41.88
and I have
challenged them to come back,
00:23:41.92\00:23:44.52
and I've told them
that I miss you, come back.
00:23:44.55\00:23:48.26
I don't know
what the problem was.
00:23:48.29\00:23:51.83
Some of them discuss
things with me and some don't.
00:23:51.86\00:23:56.46
But I feel that with
prayer they will be back.
00:23:56.50\00:24:00.27
Let me ask this
question, okay, you know,
00:24:00.30\00:24:02.50
things are going pretty
well for you at this point.
00:24:02.54\00:24:06.68
But what happened
00:24:06.71\00:24:08.04
when your husband
returned from the military,
00:24:08.08\00:24:10.65
'cause he was in
Iraq, is that correct?
00:24:10.68\00:24:12.98
He was in Afghanistan.
He was in Afghanistan.
00:24:13.01\00:24:15.18
He was in
Afghanistan, and also in Cuba.
00:24:15.22\00:24:18.89
But to put it
quickly, he was not the same.
00:24:18.92\00:24:25.43
Okay.
00:24:25.46\00:24:26.80
Our
relationship wasn't the same.
00:24:26.83\00:24:28.76
And so there again,
00:24:28.80\00:24:32.47
I have to leave
that in God's hand.
00:24:32.50\00:24:36.20
And I believe and I trust
00:24:36.24\00:24:38.47
that God will take care of that.
00:24:38.51\00:24:40.78
So now, you know, you
are at a point in your life
00:24:40.81\00:24:43.88
as Kim indicated earlier
00:24:43.91\00:24:45.85
where you're on
fire for the Lord.
00:24:45.88\00:24:48.25
You know, God is
gonna bring everything back.
00:24:48.28\00:24:51.09
How's your relationship
with the children now?
00:24:51.12\00:24:54.16
Its good.
00:24:54.19\00:24:55.89
They are happy,
they've been very supportive.
00:24:55.92\00:24:58.89
And after everything came out
and my life was on billboard,
00:24:58.93\00:25:05.87
so to speak, they realizes
that they needed to help mom.
00:25:05.90\00:25:10.34
It's their time
to step up and help.
00:25:10.37\00:25:12.84
And so they did, and
they were there for me.
00:25:12.87\00:25:15.84
And I'm still
praying in that issue also.
00:25:15.88\00:25:20.62
So at this point now, you know,
it seems like God is, you know,
00:25:20.65\00:25:25.25
just like grab hold you and say,
00:25:25.29\00:25:27.46
now you're welcome back home.
00:25:27.49\00:25:30.36
And you know, it seems like
you're filled with Holy Spirit,
00:25:30.39\00:25:35.46
you're motivated to tell
people about God, like you said,
00:25:35.50\00:25:39.87
even on your job you
telling people about Christ,
00:25:39.90\00:25:44.04
and you getting them,
00:25:44.07\00:25:45.81
you trying to encourage
them to return in church.
00:25:45.84\00:25:49.31
That's something really positive
00:25:49.34\00:25:51.25
and you're motivated.
00:25:51.28\00:25:53.05
So you know, do you plan
00:25:53.08\00:25:55.48
on continuing to
do that outreach?
00:25:55.52\00:25:59.59
Oh, yes, of course.
00:25:59.62\00:26:01.36
And I made a promise to
God that if I get back in here
00:26:01.39\00:26:06.80
and start over
again, and get my life back
00:26:06.83\00:26:10.87
then I will praise your name.
00:26:10.90\00:26:13.60
Amen.
00:26:13.64\00:26:14.97
And that's what I am doing,
and that's what I am going
00:26:15.00\00:26:17.04
to continue to do.
00:26:17.07\00:26:19.17
And more outreach to people
00:26:19.21\00:26:22.68
because there
are sad souls here.
00:26:22.71\00:26:26.38
Yes.
00:26:26.41\00:26:27.75
You know a lot is going on
and we are needed right know,
00:26:27.78\00:26:31.59
God need us to let people
know that he is there for you.
00:26:31.62\00:26:37.23
God is here for
you, all you have to do
00:26:37.26\00:26:41.10
is ask, that's it.
00:26:41.13\00:26:46.37
So I have a goal
and I have a mission,
00:26:46.40\00:26:50.94
and my mission
is to tell everybody
00:26:50.97\00:26:53.78
that I came how good God is,
00:26:53.81\00:26:57.45
and how much he is
waiting and happy to help us.
00:26:57.48\00:27:02.68
And that's my story.
00:27:02.72\00:27:04.89
That's great,
that's a fantastic story.
00:27:04.92\00:27:06.55
Thanks a lot.
00:27:06.59\00:27:07.92
Especially, how you
doing things in a church,
00:27:07.96\00:27:10.76
you're singing, you're part
of the hospitality and noxious,
00:27:10.79\00:27:14.76
and I mean, I see you
there and you have such a smile
00:27:14.80\00:27:20.00
on your face when I come in.
00:27:20.04\00:27:22.64
And that's motivating, you know,
00:27:22.67\00:27:24.14
that lets people know
00:27:24.17\00:27:25.51
that you are full
of the Holy Spirit
00:27:25.54\00:27:28.41
and that you're legitimate.
00:27:28.44\00:27:30.18
And I think that's
what your story means,
00:27:30.21\00:27:32.81
and going through
trials and tribulation
00:27:32.85\00:27:34.85
because helping
some of the people
00:27:34.88\00:27:38.05
that are experiencing,
some of difficulties
00:27:38.09\00:27:40.22
as military personal,
that is really meaning full
00:27:40.26\00:27:45.46
that you may be
placed in a position
00:27:45.49\00:27:47.93
where you can encourage someone
00:27:47.96\00:27:50.10
that is in that
type of environment.
00:27:50.13\00:27:52.33
It's difference, even though
00:27:52.37\00:27:54.30
there is help available to them,
00:27:54.34\00:27:56.60
it still a difference.
00:27:56.64\00:27:58.14
It is.
00:27:58.17\00:27:59.51
Well, we want to
thank you, Cherlyn
00:27:59.54\00:28:00.88
for being with us
and telling your story.
00:28:00.91\00:28:02.48
We were truly moved,
00:28:02.51\00:28:03.98
and we know our
viewers have been moved.
00:28:04.01\00:28:06.48
I am Dr. Kim Logan
Nowlin. I am Arthur Nowlin.
00:28:06.51\00:28:09.02
And continue to
Making It Work. God bless.
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