Hi, I'm Dr. Kim
Logan-Nowlin. I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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And welcome to "Making It Work."
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Arthur, today our
program is entitled
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"The Second Time Around." Wow.
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You like that?
Sounds interesting.
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It's gonna be interesting.
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I want to welcome our guest,
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Mr. and Mrs.
Danny and Lori Mann.
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God bless you. Welcome.
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Well, thank you
for taking time out
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to come and be with us.
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Well, listen we want
you to tell your testimony,
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when we talk about
the second time around,
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we're talking
about, how they married,
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they divorced and
then they remarried.
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And we want them to
tell you their story.
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All right, who'd like to start?
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I'll start. I'll start.
All right, Lori. All right.
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Well, we were at
his father's funeral.
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And I've learned to be
obedient when guys speaks to me.
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You have to listen and
you have to be obedient.
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And I was sitting
in the back table,
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with his cousins and we
were talking having a good time,
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and someone told you turn around
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and go ask him
to come back home.
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Oh, no I can't do
that. Didn't want to do that.
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But I knew it was
his sprit speaking to me.
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But again I didn't
want to be obedient.
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But he has talked
to me two more times
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he said it again.
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So I knew, I had to
get up and at the end
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I asked him to come back
home, he thought it was a joke.
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But I wasn't
joking, I was serious
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and it went from there.
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Wow.
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What was the
timeframe from the marriage
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to the divorce
to your reconciling,
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you remarried?
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Yes. Okay.
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What was the timeframe,
you've been married 23 years--
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All together now,
we were divorced 7.
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You were divorced 7 years? Yes.
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All right, so did you all stay
in contact with one another,
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because you have
children, you have two children?
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Right.
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So you
communicated about the children?
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Not really. No. Not really?
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Okay, Mr. Mann, why was
there no communication with you
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about the children?
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Well, there was
slightly communication
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about the children.
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We did talk, sometime.
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But it was where one point...
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I decided to just go my way.
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Where you angry?
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What was it making
you to make this decision?
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Well, it wasn't anger, it was...
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Bitterness, anger.
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You think so? I think so.
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Why do you say that?
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I think so, I don't know
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maybe because of
the way we broke up,
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and things that were going
on in our lives and, you know,
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we weren't putting God
first in our life sorts of all.
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Were you both
attending church at that time?
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No.
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Neither one of you
were in the body of Christ?
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No. Okay.
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but since that time you've
are in the body of Christ.
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Right. Okay.
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We're talking about
selling you a period,
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where the children didn't
have their parents together.
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How was that
making an impact with you,
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because you were
keeping the children?
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Right.
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You know, and you were
taking care of your family.
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I knew, I had to
get back to basics.
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And I knew, I had
to get back to where--
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Explain your
basics, when you say that?
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Foundation, God,
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and I was raised that
way and I strayed away.
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And I know, I had
to get back for them,
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because I had to lay
that foundation for them.
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So I started going to
different churches, visiting
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and until I found
one where we could join.
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You know, and I had prayed
and asked God to direct me.
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And give me strength and
put me where he wanted me to be.
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Then after the divorce.
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I mean, what were you feeling,
what were you thinking about?
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You know, you thinking
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that this was just
the end of your family
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or, you know, 'cause I guess
a lot of men get to the point
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where it becomes difficult
for them to deal with family
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after a traumatic
situation like that.
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Well, honestly
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I tried the
single life with many.
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Okay. And it didn't fit me.
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Okay.
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Because--
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Basically all my adult life,
I've been in a marital status.
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Okay.
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Because I was
married before we met.
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So she is my second wife. Okay.
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So I got married before so,
I got married at the age of 20.
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So I've always been
in a marital status.
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And I realized I
just couldn't do it,
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you know, that single life.
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So you were going
through a lot of pain
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during this
separation and divorce and--
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That's loneliness--
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Loneliness. Yeah. You know.
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And what was going on through--
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I was having a good life.
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Lori, you weren't
missing your husband?
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No, honestly no.
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Okay, tell us
why? I had a good time.
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Tell us why?
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I enjoyed being
single, because I like him.
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I didn't get married,
he was my first husband.
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and we got, when I
married Danny, I was 28.
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So I had lived a
single life, you know,
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I went to college and
to have my own place and--
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got out there, you know,
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so it was a new beginning
for me to rejuvenate myself
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and find myself again so--
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Did you redefine
yourself after you got divorce?
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I sure did.
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And what was that definition
that you could define?
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That I could do it by myself.
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That I didn't need any help,
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and I was proud of
myself for that, you know.
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Okay so here we are,
you both were separated,
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divorced, you know,
you have a good time
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but yet, you get the
Holy Spirit talking to you
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about this is not
what I want for you.
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Right.
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You know, and it
started nagging at you
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I mean, it started
becoming more stronger.
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Yeah.
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And it's interesting because
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you weren't in
the body of Christ
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or did you become
in the body of Christ
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during the separation?
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During the separation.
Yes. You joined a church.
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All right, so
you and the children
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started going to church?
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Yes.
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You know, was that a
difficult transition for them
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to start going to church,
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and where they had not
been raised in the church
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were difficult for them?
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Well, when we started going,
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I think my son was about four.
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Oh, so he is very young. Okay.
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He was around four years old.
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So I had to introduce
him to going to church
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and how to behave,
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how to sustain and
listen that was the job
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you know, I was stuck with it.
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Sure. Yeah.
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So in the midst of all of that
you were having a good time,
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you had the children.
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You're working doing your thing,
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so it was not
reaching out to him about,
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when you're coming
to see the children,
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how are you, nothing?
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Not really, no. Okay.
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Because we had gone according,
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he had shun on DJ
for every other weekend.
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Oh, so he saw them so
you had parenting time.
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Yes. Okay.
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So even in a process of
you've been independent.
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You know, we're still looking
at something was driving you,
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you know, to get your
marriage back on track.
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And yet you responded.
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'Cause we have to
be obedient. Okay.
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And I've learned
that, and I've learned that,
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you know really the hard
way and when he talks to you,
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you have to do what he says.
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When he says it
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because there is a
window of opportunity
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that he is giving you.
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And if you don't take
it, you gonna lose it.
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Wow. And you
can't get that back.
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So you said, that he at
first he thought it was a joke.
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How soon thereafter did
he say, are you serious?
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Well, about a week
later, week or so later.
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About a week later? Yes.
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Almost two
weeks. Almost two weeks?
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So it was, but in the
mean time you're thinking that,
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this might be
able to be something
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that you wanted to do.
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Well, you know exact
I prayed only myself.
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You know, ask Lord,
you know, for help me.
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I was sad, didn't
like this single life.
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Tried it and it just wasn't me.
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I'm a type of person that--
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enjoy a curfew.
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That's a good way.
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I can't be
outrageous all night long.
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And I just can't do it.
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So, I guess I prayed on it,
and she asked me to come home.
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I just said, do
you think it serious?
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And just had to make
sure she was since she--
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Well, how did you make sure?
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Well, I just waited it
out really, just waited out.
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We talk, we said and
we talk with the kids.
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And I asked them how
do they feel about it
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and made my decision from there.
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So what was the response
from the children, you know,
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when you sat
down and talk to them
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and telling your intentions?
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They was--
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My son was happy about it,
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my daughter, she was okay.
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Because she was old
and she probably saw more,
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she heard more.
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Right.
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Okay, so in that
transition, you know, the pain
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or holding on to
something was difficult for her,
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because you were
reminder of that pain.
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Right. Probably, so yes.
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All right.
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She might have
been a little angry
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about the divorce
in the first phase
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about how it ended.
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Right.
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So that might be
one of the things
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that may have come across.
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How's your
relationship with her now?
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It's good, it's really
good. What makes it good now?
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Well, we talk about it,
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and spend a lot
of time together.
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Do you think it's important
that fathers and daughters
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have their
quality time together?
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I think they should
have more, because see it...
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Shows the child--
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What it means
for us supposed to do
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and they are like and how again
how I was gonna treat them.
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Well, I want to go
back to what caused divorce
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in the first place?
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What caused the
divorce in the first place,
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first of all break
down in communication
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and alcoholism.
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Okay.
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And whose part
was the alcoholism?
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Danny's.
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So that impacted
the entire family?
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Yeah.
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It caused the dynamics of
the entire family household.
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Did your husband
come home intoxicated?
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Yes. Was he abusive?
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No. Never violent, no. He
never abused? Never violent?
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He wasn't
violent, we didn't fight,
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he didn't jump on
me, didn't none of that.
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It was just not doing
what he was supposed to do
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as the man in our household.
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He was working
during that particular time?
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Oh, yeah.
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So functioning, would
you consider him alcoholic
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or that he just indulged?
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He was a functioning alcoholic.
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You know, a
function alcoholic. Yes.
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All right, Danny, you know,
I like some feedback from you.
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You know. I find it funny.
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Okay.
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I drunk a lot,
I will admit that.
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Why did you drink so much?
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I've seen miscommunication--
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The communication just wasn't
clear enough in the household--
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Okay. In my opinion.
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Okay, so you're telling
me that the communication
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you using that as a
reason why you drank?
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Yes.
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So are you blaming
your wife that you drink?
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No I'm not, I
don't point a finger.
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And like I told her
and I always told her.
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I'm not accusing you or
blaming you for anything.
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But what I'm saying to you,
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you're the
reason for my drinking
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is because of your behavior.
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Now how long
you gonna stand that
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or I can bring it
down any further--
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Okay, so you're telling
about the behavior of your wife.
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And how you
responded to that was drinking.
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The reason why
I did, well I did.
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Okay. All right.
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Was the communication to a point
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where you just
couldn't talk about the problems
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or the issues that were
going on in the household?
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We didn't talk about it. Okay.
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Did your wife
ever approached you
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and tried to talk to you about?
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No, we didn't had
that type of relationship.
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At one particular
time, it was all funny game,
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we enjoyed, we hate, we
always enjoyed one another
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but for a serious conversation
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on feelings never came about.
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Lori, during this
time did you drink?
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Yeah, I indulged.
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Did you indulged together?
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Sometimes, yes. Okay.
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So when did the change happen
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when the alcohol
was no longer fun
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or it was impacting the family,
because you both were drinking?
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That's hard to say.
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So did you stop, and
your husband didn't stop?
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I wasn't a functional drinker.
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I didn't, not gonna
drink and go to work.
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So I wasn't
drinking on a daily basis,
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weekend yes.
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You partied on
weekends? Okay. Yes.
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Yes, and we partied
with each other, you know.
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But, things just
started getting in a way
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and bills weren't getting paid.
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And we weren't communicating
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and it just started
going down here from there.
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Why do you think the
communication didn't work?
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Because we didn't
try to make it work.
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We didn't try to
talk to each other.
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And again still the main thing
is that we weren't in church.
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We weren't going.
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And we both were
raised in church,
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so we both move better.
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I can't, excuse me, baby.
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But I can say this though.
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Without God in
your life, you're lost.
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It is a Bible line, you're lost.
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And you came to that conclusion.
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After things fell
apart. Yes. Right.
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So you had to go
to your bottom line,
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you know, hit your bottom
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and then trying to
work yourself with backup.
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Right.
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Well, how has it been
now the second time around,
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you know, the happier times,
you know, coming back together,
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you know, no longer the alcohol,
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you no longer drinking Mr. Mann?
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No.
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Okay, and both of you
are attending churches.
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Now this is interesting.
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They attend two
different churches,
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and that has been a dynamic
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or variable in the relationship.
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You know, but lately
something has happened,
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tell us about that?
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We have come to a compromise
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that we will attend
each others churches.
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He will come to mine
once in month, which he did,
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this morning
great church service
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and me and the kids will
go to his church once a month.
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Okay. So, that's working out.
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And guess what, and the reason
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you're in two different churches
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is because of
your responsibility
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that you each have
00:17:20.57\00:17:22.04
and you have two
different churches.
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Now, were you into different
churches when you remarried?
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Yes.
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I see and so that's something,
you know, and then bringing it,
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and making a decision
about joining one church.
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Is that on the table now,
00:17:36.42\00:17:38.15
looking at there
is a possibility?
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And we're taking
just one step at a time.
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One step at a time.
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The loving prayer.
All right, all right.
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But you love your church,
and you love your church.
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Okay, all right.
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There is another show in
this stepping, another program.
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Let me ask, you know,
00:17:52.03\00:17:53.74
about how your
relationship is now?
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You know, I mean, you know,
the communication was a issue.
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How have you
progressed from that?
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Do you talk on a
regular basis, you know,
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the family
meetings, what's going on?
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Well, let me answer it. Sure.
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At first, it was
a little difficult.
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I mean we were just
trying to put it together,
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it was a little difficult,
00:18:21.43\00:18:23.13
so what we decided
to do and that was,
00:18:23.16\00:18:26.37
come see what you've all got.
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And you all open up,
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a gateway for us.
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I just say that, where
we have fun together now.
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We talk all the
time, discuss everything,
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laugh and joke
about many things.
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The whole family?
00:18:49.49\00:18:50.83
It was to a point where I'll sit
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and watch TV with her now.
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What's your
favorite program, Danny?
00:18:56.50\00:18:59.47
Lena Hall.
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Okay. All right.
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But it's been a beautiful thing.
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Excellent, so how
has it been for you?
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It's a lot better, lot better,
00:19:12.15\00:19:14.88
and
communication is a lot better.
00:19:14.92\00:19:17.79
We both listen to each
other instead of, you know,
00:19:17.82\00:19:22.72
trying to over talk each other.
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Don't forget our morning prayer.
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Oh yeah, we pray
together now every morning.
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Praise the Lord.
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On Mondays, I
don't work on Mondays,
00:19:31.57\00:19:34.14
so we make that
our day to go out
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and do something together.
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We go to the show, go for lunch.
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You have a date day? Yeah.
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Nice. Okay.
00:19:42.31\00:19:44.91
And, you know, it's been
great. Oh, that's impressive.
00:19:44.95\00:19:48.78
Are you enjoying
your date day, Danny?
00:19:48.82\00:19:50.32
Love it.
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Well, I have a
question, wanted to know,
00:19:52.85\00:19:55.62
how did you quit drinking,
00:19:55.66\00:19:58.43
you know, it's very
hard for individuals
00:19:58.46\00:20:01.43
who use alcohol as a
substance, what did you do?
00:20:01.46\00:20:05.10
I gave it to the
Lord. And I prayed on it.
00:20:09.47\00:20:14.54
And I asked Him
to take that taste
00:20:14.58\00:20:18.08
out of my mouth.
00:20:18.11\00:20:19.45
Okay.
00:20:19.48\00:20:20.82
He's still strong on
his word and he did it.
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That's all-- You were ready?
00:20:28.22\00:20:30.36
I was ready. Yeah.
00:20:30.39\00:20:31.73
I was tired and
I was ready. Yeah
00:20:31.76\00:20:34.06
So that's important
to bring out the fact
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that when you get to a point
00:20:36.56\00:20:38.13
and you're
ready to stop drinking
00:20:38.17\00:20:41.24
that God will give you
this extra burst of strength
00:20:41.27\00:20:45.07
to resist.
00:20:45.11\00:20:46.78
I commend you for that.
00:20:46.81\00:20:48.48
But let me ask you
this follow up question.
00:20:48.51\00:20:52.35
When you stop drinking,
00:20:52.38\00:20:53.72
a lot of times
when people recognize
00:20:53.75\00:20:55.95
that they have
a problem drinking
00:20:55.98\00:20:57.32
and they stop drinking
because of whatever reason,
00:20:57.35\00:21:00.26
because of family or health.
00:21:00.29\00:21:02.72
Sometimes they get to a
point where they become angry,
00:21:02.76\00:21:06.73
because they had
to stop drinking.
00:21:06.76\00:21:09.63
Did you get to
that point? Angry?
00:21:09.66\00:21:14.14
I didn't think so.
00:21:14.17\00:21:16.81
She always tell I was angry,
but I don't think I was angry.
00:21:16.84\00:21:21.01
Maybe I was, I don't know.
00:21:21.04\00:21:23.88
Did you notice the
difference? He was obeying.
00:21:23.91\00:21:26.01
Okay. He was obeying.
00:21:26.05\00:21:29.05
But did not hurt me any anymore.
00:21:29.08\00:21:30.52
Okay.
00:21:30.55\00:21:31.89
So when you come home
from work now, you know,
00:21:31.92\00:21:34.36
that down there was a husband
who is completely different?
00:21:34.39\00:21:36.59
Yes. And that's nice.
00:21:36.62\00:21:38.19
It's peace. Peaceful.
00:21:38.23\00:21:40.16
That's fine to know. Yeah.
00:21:40.20\00:21:42.80
What do the children
saying now about you two
00:21:42.83\00:21:45.27
and your new found
love in relationship?
00:21:45.30\00:21:48.67
They don't says much
00:21:48.70\00:21:50.04
but, you can tell
that they're better too.
00:21:50.07\00:21:52.74
Oh, that's
beautiful. They're better also.
00:21:52.77\00:21:54.88
How was that first day
when Danny came to church
00:21:54.91\00:21:59.28
and joined you all at church,
00:21:59.31\00:22:00.95
you know, what was the reaction,
00:22:00.98\00:22:02.32
did they know he was coming?
00:22:02.35\00:22:03.79
Sure, no one did.
00:22:03.82\00:22:05.35
I don't think they
knew that he was coming.
00:22:05.39\00:22:07.19
So he surprised them. Yeah.
00:22:07.22\00:22:09.49
Okay. But it was nice.
00:22:09.52\00:22:11.76
They were happy and
proud. That's a blessing.
00:22:11.79\00:22:14.03
Let me ask, what
are some of the goals
00:22:14.06\00:22:15.56
that you have
for your family now?
00:22:15.60\00:22:16.97
Yes.
00:22:17.00\00:22:18.33
You know, certain
goals that you have
00:22:18.37\00:22:19.70
for your relationship?
00:22:19.73\00:22:22.60
Right now my goal is--
00:22:22.64\00:22:27.28
I have four years
to retire and I'm just,
00:22:27.31\00:22:30.78
I want to work towards retiring
00:22:30.81\00:22:33.35
and before I was
moving out of state.
00:22:33.38\00:22:36.72
Okay.
00:22:36.75\00:22:38.09
That's what my
goal is to us right now.
00:22:38.12\00:22:40.92
And seeing Charnel finish school
00:22:40.96\00:22:44.99
and getting DJ off
00:22:45.03\00:22:46.49
and me and Danny
just enjoying ourselves.
00:22:46.53\00:22:50.17
I mean that's
where I'm. That's right.
00:22:50.20\00:22:52.07
That's where we are.
He is there where I am.
00:22:52.10\00:22:54.30
Okay.
00:22:54.34\00:22:55.70
Any particular location
that you like to move to?
00:22:55.74\00:22:58.84
I like to go out west.
00:22:58.87\00:23:00.21
Really? Yeah.
00:23:00.24\00:23:02.24
No more snow and cold weather.
00:23:02.28\00:23:04.15
I want to swim in
pool in the backyard.
00:23:04.18\00:23:07.22
You want a swimming pool? Yes.
00:23:07.25\00:23:08.82
You don't miss the
snow. I don't care.
00:23:08.85\00:23:13.56
Well, that's where
my goal, our goal is.
00:23:13.59\00:23:15.99
Yes, that's beautiful.
00:23:16.02\00:23:17.69
And so you go along
with that, didn't you?
00:23:17.73\00:23:19.23
Oh, yeah. No, problem.
00:23:19.26\00:23:22.53
You know, when you think
about the goodness of Lord
00:23:22.56\00:23:24.73
and all He has
been to you, you know,
00:23:24.77\00:23:27.50
of all the
scriptures in the Bible,
00:23:27.54\00:23:29.14
is any particular
scripture that comes to mind
00:23:29.17\00:23:31.54
that helps you over
those hurdles everyday?
00:23:31.57\00:23:34.44
"My help cometh from the Lord."
00:23:34.48\00:23:38.71
"And look to the hills,
from whence cometh my help."
00:23:38.75\00:23:41.48
My help comes from the Lord,
00:23:41.52\00:23:42.85
Danny, is there a
favorite scripture that you use?
00:23:42.88\00:23:46.32
There is one that I
wake up on every morning
00:23:46.35\00:23:51.63
and that goes,
00:23:51.66\00:23:54.00
"This is the day
that Lord have made,
00:23:54.03\00:23:57.20
let us rejoice
and be strong in it."
00:23:57.23\00:23:59.70
Yes.
00:23:59.73\00:24:01.07
And I take that and just
carry out my day with it.
00:24:01.10\00:24:05.01
Wow. Praise the Lord.
00:24:05.04\00:24:06.47
How important is
the power of prayer
00:24:06.51\00:24:08.44
in your relationship now?
00:24:08.48\00:24:09.98
It's very important. Why?
00:24:10.01\00:24:12.71
Because as I
just mentioned before,
00:24:12.75\00:24:16.28
we need the Lord in our life
to guide our steps, you know,
00:24:16.32\00:24:20.42
to guide our
tongue, to guide our ears,
00:24:20.46\00:24:23.79
open our ears to hear
one another, you know,
00:24:23.83\00:24:29.10
so when she speak, you
know, I listen and vice-versa.
00:24:29.13\00:24:35.24
And with our prayer,
00:24:35.27\00:24:37.57
that morning prayer we pray
for one another every morning,
00:24:37.61\00:24:41.01
you know, so as a day go on
00:24:41.04\00:24:44.08
we just, just enjoy one another.
00:24:44.11\00:24:47.65
I just want to say,
that I think you both
00:24:47.68\00:24:50.29
are so motivating, you know,
you have truly a story to tell.
00:24:50.32\00:24:55.32
And I just see the Lord
00:24:55.36\00:24:56.83
using you in a
mighty, mighty way
00:24:56.86\00:24:58.89
as you continue to
get stronger in health.
00:24:58.93\00:25:02.70
I mean it's such an
uniqueness in your story.
00:25:02.73\00:25:05.40
Oh, yes.
00:25:05.43\00:25:06.77
And the Lord has
truly, truly blessed you.
00:25:06.80\00:25:09.57
So we'll keep you in our prayers
00:25:09.60\00:25:12.14
and we're gonna maintain
our relationship with you.
00:25:12.17\00:25:15.54
All right.
00:25:15.58\00:25:16.91
I want to be able to say that
00:25:16.95\00:25:18.28
I know that God
allowed this second time around
00:25:18.31\00:25:21.65
because He has a
ministry for you to do.
00:25:21.68\00:25:23.39
Yes.
00:25:23.42\00:25:24.75
He has a work for you to do,
and you're doing it right now.
00:25:24.79\00:25:26.65
Can you look at that camera
00:25:26.69\00:25:28.66
and tell another
couple going through,
00:25:28.69\00:25:32.19
who's may be dealing
with what you've dealt with.
00:25:32.23\00:25:34.76
How they could
continue to make it work?
00:25:34.80\00:25:38.20
You can make it
work by being obedient,
00:25:38.23\00:25:41.04
and listen to
God when He speaks.
00:25:41.07\00:25:43.84
Do what He says,
give Him His time,
00:25:43.87\00:25:47.58
and be faithful and honorable.
00:25:47.61\00:25:51.38
And He'll work it out,
He worked it out for us,
00:25:51.41\00:25:53.72
I know if He
worked it out for us,
00:25:53.75\00:25:55.12
so He'll do it for you too.
00:25:55.15\00:25:56.48
Amen. That's right.
00:25:56.52\00:25:58.02
And Danny?
00:25:58.05\00:25:59.55
Just keep the Lord in
the forefront of your lives
00:25:59.59\00:26:02.79
at all the time.
00:26:02.82\00:26:04.23
Amen. Amen.
00:26:04.26\00:26:05.89
Oh, that's so beautiful.
00:26:05.93\00:26:07.83
You know, Arthur I
really enjoy, you know,
00:26:07.86\00:26:11.23
being in private practice
together here in Detroit,
00:26:11.27\00:26:14.07
being able to
counsel people like you.
00:26:14.10\00:26:16.74
And then seeing, you
know, the beginning to the end
00:26:16.77\00:26:20.44
and what God can do.
00:26:20.48\00:26:22.24
You know, and we
want to just continue
00:26:22.28\00:26:24.45
to be a part of your
lives, you're part of ours.
00:26:24.48\00:26:26.85
And how and
what God is yet to do
00:26:26.88\00:26:29.45
for the two of you.
00:26:29.48\00:26:30.82
And you just don't have any idea
00:26:30.85\00:26:32.29
how He's gonna uplifts you,
00:26:32.32\00:26:33.96
He has a mighty
work in store for you.
00:26:33.99\00:26:36.62
He just want you
to come to one church.
00:26:36.66\00:26:41.43
Oh, one day at a
time. One day at a time.
00:26:41.46\00:26:46.03
You know, so to our viewers,
second time around can be good.
00:26:46.07\00:26:50.97
You have
devastation, there's hurt,
00:26:51.01\00:26:52.74
there're
problems in all our lives.
00:26:52.77\00:26:54.81
But I can do all
things through Christ
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who strengthens me.
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And no matter what
God can see us through,
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I'm Doctor Kim
Logan-Nowlin. I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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Continue to make it work.
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God bless.
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