Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin.
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I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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And welcome to Making it Work.
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We are so happy today to
have a very special guest.
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All our guests are special
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but today our nephew
Austin James Humphreys.
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Welcome to Making it Work.
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I'm excited and
blessed to be here today.
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Excellent. Excellent.
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Well, I thank the Lord.
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Austin is my
sister's son, her oldest son.
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She has two sons and
his brother's name is Jeran
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who is a sophomore at Southern
University in Tennessee.
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Austin, what's going on?
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Everything is going
well, I'm about to graduate
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in just a few weeks
from Oakwood University,
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so I'm excited about
that, getting my B.A in theology
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and a minor in
biblical languages.
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Biblical languages,
okay, is that Latin and Greek,
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you know, you can
speak all of that?
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Yeah, I know all of
that, Hebrew, all that.
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So yeah, I know that well.
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Yeah, speak a little bit for me.
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I wasn't prepared to
bring that here today.
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Well, today our program
is entitled God's setup.
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Indeed how God
has set Austin up,
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and, Arthur, you remember
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Austin's first
haircutting was with us,
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he was four years old.
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Absolutely.
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And we took him.
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We took him and his parents...
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Yeah, I took him
to the barber shop.
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Yeah and I went because I
was trying to direct things.
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Yes, it was.
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I still have those pictures.
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We took him to the
zoo in the stroller.
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Baseball game.
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We took him to the theater,
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we still took him
to see the tigers.
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You know do you
remember any of that?
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All of it.
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I was impressed with the
tiger's gale, I love that.
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I love that.
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You know but he has always
been so faithful, very caring,
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reaching out to us as
his aunt and uncle and...
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Well, you know I think it's just
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a communication is
really has been positive
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and no strings, he
felt, feels comfortable
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in communicating
with me most of the time.
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But he beat you in basketball,
haven't you let that go.
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Beat you.. He won't let it go.
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He just won't let it go.
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Austin knows that he was thought
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how to play basketball by me.
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By you? Of course.
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Okay. Him and his brother.
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Yeah, all right, right.
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What we want you to
tell our viewers today about
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how God has set you up.
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And when you listen to that,
it sounds really kind of harsh.
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But we gonna let
you tell the story.
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You were born and
raised in Chicago, Illinois?
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That's right, yes, ma'am.
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And you are product of
the Lake Region Conference,
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and the Lake Region Conference
is one of the conferences
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that's located within the
Northern America division.
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And we are here within
the five states of Minnesota,
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Indiana, Wisconsin,
Illinois and Indiana,
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and that is known as
the Lake Region Conference
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of the
Seventh-day Adventist church
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so...
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You know I'm really
concerning about where he is...
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his choice.
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His choice of where he intends
to go when this is all done,
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when he is getting
ready to get his degree
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and he can make it big,
give him a call and survey.
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I know he is probably...
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Well, we're gonna get to that,
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we're jumping ahead of schedule.
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Well, I mean, I'm
just anxious to hear that.
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Okay, we're gonna
let you know about
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where he would like to go versus
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where God wants him and I
know he is open to God's will,
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but can you tell us
what happened over your story
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when you left the
Lake Region Conference
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and where did you go?
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Well we left Lake
Region Conference in 2003,
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went to Huntsville,
Alabama where my dad
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James Humphreys got the job
as chaplain at Oakwood College
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which is now Oakwood University.
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Served there, it was a great,
great job for him, he loved it.
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And when he left Lake Region,
he had a lot of things going.
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He was a youth
director as you all remember
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in Lake Region Conference,
so he loves young people,
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his passion for ministry
and it just kind of carried over
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to Oakwood University
in a major, major way.
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And we moved in 2003,
that was exciting for me,
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my brother, new setting,
new friends, new family.
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At first I wasn't really
in agreeance with it at first,
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the adjustment was tough but
it's definitely a blessing now
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when I look back on it.
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In 2005 tragedy struck our home,
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he passed away, May 2005.
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Can you tell us how
and what happened that day?
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And it was tough.
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That day he woke
up and he made me
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and my brother our
favourite breakfast sandwich
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and it was of course
egg stripples on hoagie bun
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toasted to perfection.
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What's a stripple?
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And the stripple is
basically veggie baking.
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Soy, soy.
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Soy baking for our
viewers and we just loved it
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and he would have
fried up to perfection.
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I always love mine with cheeses,
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little bit of jelly on
it, and it was awesome.
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And he said to himself that,
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and it was just a
little bit of pain
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and that he was thinking
about going to the doctor
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after he dropped me and my
brother off for path finders.
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So he got dressed and he
was getting in the shower
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and I got in the
shower, and the next thing
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that I can remember is my mother
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screaming in her room
and saying, Austin, call 911.
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Hopped off the
shower, put some clothes on
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and rush to my father's aid,
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and I can remember
just a surreal experience.
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Never forget talking to
the 911 person on the phone
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and just how...
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It just seem to
me was taken so long
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for emergency to get there.
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Just kind of
watching my father's life
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just be sucked out of him.
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So we did CPR,
my mother and I...
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I can't remember
where my brother was,
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but we are calling
911 and I'm doing CPR
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and I can remember
that it just wasn't working.
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I just begin to beat on
his chest and calling his name,
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but he's just not responding
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and eventually
emergency gets there,
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they pull me away
and I could just imagine,
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I'm just in
shock, praying to God
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that he will be revived.
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They take him to
the ambulance truck,
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my mother goes and my neighbours
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across a street
take him to the hospital.
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But that day about
the time we got there,
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it was just too late,
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and he had died
in the ambulance.
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So it's definitely a tough
experience for myself, for me.
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And I think that's
where I kind of feel like
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God had set my family up.
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Everything was
fine where we were,
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so I have
thought of Lake Region,
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I loved my church,
I loved my community.
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And I just felt like why
would God bring us there,
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if only to
experience pain and sorrow.
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And so for a long
time as a young man,
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I always felt that when
my dad needed me the most,
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I just couldn't do it.
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Where he needed
life, I could not bring it.
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And so, as a young
man, as you all can imagine
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that was very difficult
and hard and hard to handle up.
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I believe I was a
freshman in high school,
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so I was only 15
or 16 at the time.
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And it was just
a tough experience,
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I was going
through a transition,
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gotten into a new school.
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I was very excited.
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Girls, I was really
starting to talk to girls
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and really start
to get into the thing
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and, you know, playing
sports, and I can remember
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playing ball with
my dad the week before
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how much fun we had.
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And some of those things that
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I just could not
believe were taking place.
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For a period no
one could talk to me,
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no one could tell me what to do,
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no one could tell me how to act.
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I remember that I
was angry all the time.
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My attitude was nasty.
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I broke the law,
I've gotten arrested
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when I was
younger, but thank to Lord,
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they dropped the
charge, nothing serious,
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and I think that was
kind of my turning point,
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where I need to
get my life together.
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When I finished high
school, everything was great.
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Oakwood Academy
which is on the campus
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of Oakwood
University and I really...
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And that's
located and I'm sorry.
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Oakwood University
and Oakwood Academy
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is one of our schools within
the North America division,
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it's located in
Huntsville, Alabama.
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Definitely and
so, I just really,
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really enjoyed my time there.
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During this period, I'd really
gotten closure to my mother.
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She really provided all
that we needed my brother and I.
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And she really
sacrificed her life for me.
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When I went to Oakwood,
the transition was tough
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because my father
worked on the campus,
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people knew who I was,
and I just kind of felt
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a sense of
entitlement to, you know,
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where I was, you
know, my father's service,
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he has built great things here,
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and I needed to
experience God for myself.
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I think so often in my life,
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I was viewing
God through his eyes.
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I really didn't have
a connection with him.
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I used to be while all
the time my father died,
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it was like half of
myself going with him
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because so much of his
spirituality I relied on.
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And I realized, the only
way I was gonna make it out
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was to know him for myself.
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Going to Oakwood, not a
lot of people know this.
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My first major was not theology.
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I think I had gotten into like
IT tech or something like that.
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I was undecided and I'm
really calling Uncle Arthur
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just to tell him I
wasn't sure what to do.
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And I basically was
just being like gentlemen,
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just kind of running
away from the calling of God.
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And I remember in
my room one night,
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and the Lord was
just wrestling with me,
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and He just
wouldn't let me sleep.
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And it was almost like a
clear, clear voice telling me
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that I'm supposed to be
a minister of the gospel
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and that He has called
me for this purpose and...
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All right, let me
interrupt you here.
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Yes.
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A young man, you
know, experiencing
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all these different
things, just new environment,
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you know, and yet you were
running away from your calling.
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Right.
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But still something
was holding you, you know,
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keeping you
together to the point
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were you wouldn't
do anything extremely
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out of character
in and of itself.
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And what was that?
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I just think it was
the anointing on my life.
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I think after a period of time,
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I remember I
could have done worse,
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and I could have gone out
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and lashed out in a greater way.
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But I think the anointing
on my life and a calling
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because I tell
people all the time,
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it was the Holy Spirit
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that really has
just saved my life.
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I remember there
has been some times
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where I wanted to
leave home, run away,
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because the pain was
so real and it was so new,
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and it was just hard going
through life as a young man
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in the prime time
of, you know, his life,
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not being able to have a father,
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but I do remember that
the connection with my mother,
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the family worship
that we would have at home,
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that was staple in my household.
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No matter where, I can remember
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even the day my
father died that night,
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we still had family worship.
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And I believe
that family worship
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back then was
still a staple for me
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even then when I was in college,
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I always had worship and
I think those connections
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which was small at time then be,
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may not want to do it,
but the impact was amazing.
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So that's really what
kind of got me through
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my first couple
of years of college.
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I've really gone
through a rough patch
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my sophomore junior
year dealing with ministry.
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I was wrestling
with the calling,
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I wasn't sure if I
was worthy if I could,
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if I could do it.
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I felt as though
I was insignificant.
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I felt as though, I
could not meet the expectations
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that my father had
exceeded and I really...
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So you felt
pressure a little bit...
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Oh, of course, Of
course going into the ministry
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and the name he
had built for himself
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at Oakwood University.
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He was respected highly,
and I kind of felt as though,
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I wasn't
meeting the expectation,
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so I was forcing,
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I guess a feeling
that I could be great
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instead of just
with time maturing
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and letting the Lord
mature me into the man
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that he wanted me to be.
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So it was just a kind
of a rough patch for me.
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My grade slipped,
not afraid to say that.
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And the Lord took
me through a period
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where I need to
define myself and start over,
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and become
really just brand new.
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I think that in that year,
I got closed to my brother.
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I got closer
again with my mother.
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And I think that through
just the power of a family,
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you all know, you all helped me,
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and I believe that it has
just made me a better man.
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I've realized that my father,
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his only
expectation was to see Jesus
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and his standard was God.
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And once I took my focus
off my father's accomplishments
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and face my eyes
toward the cross,
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I realized it even he was
insignificant without Jesus.
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And so, I realized now
that no matter what I've done,
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no matter where I've preached,
no matter who I've met,
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I still remember that we're
all at a centre of the cross,
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and if we keep our eyes on
Him that we'll be all right.
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And so that was
kind of my staple
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to get me through
the rough passage.
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I believe that God is,
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He kind of has a sense of humor.
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You know, I'd always tell God,
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I never want to
be a pastor, never.
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I used to be at, you know,
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here at Lake
Region camp meetings
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and I would just
hate the process.
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I would hate doing it.
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I would hate having
to go wake up early,
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pack up the car,
pack up that van...
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A green and white van.
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A green and
white van I hated it,
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and now I find myself
can't, just can't wait to do it.
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You know can't wait
to be in the ministry
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that my father was in,
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and I can't wait
to make an impact.
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If my life can be just half
of what James Humphreys did,
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then I'll be satisfied.
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Do you still feel that at this
point in your life that they,
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that people
compare you, you know,
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right now with what
they remember about your dad,
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they compare you as also, okay.
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Oh, sure, oh,
sure, all the time.
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Wherever I've
preached, I preached somewhere
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where someone knew my
father, they'll always say,
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I just want to see
your father inside of you.
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When I go speak somewhere,
if I go meet somebody,
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they just said, "Oh,
you look just like Jimmy."
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And I take it as
a hard compliment
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because he was
such an awesome guy,
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but he never made
himself above anyone else.
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He always was
level with the people,
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he loved the people.
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And I think that
it's just an honor
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to be called a
son of James Humphreys
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but also, I have to remember,
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I have to make
a name for myself.
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I know that the
people when they,
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when they see me when I preached
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and they gonna
see James Humphreys,
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they're gonna get Austin
Humphreys in his new way.
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But I still have the same
values that my father did.
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I still have the same vision,
the same passion for ministry.
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I tell people this all the time,
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my main goal is salvation.
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Okay.
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And if that's
what, if that's my goal,
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then I've got to do things
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and I've got to be
about kingdom building.
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Kingdom.
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And making it to the
kingdom and that's my goal.
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Let's talk about your values.
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What are your values
today being 23 years of age,
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you know, being in celibate,
you are in a relationship.
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Yes.
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How do you talk to young
people about remaining celibate,
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waiting until marriage?
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I know you're a pastor,
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you're looking forward
to getting married and,
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so what are your
values today being a young man
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in this life that
we're living today?
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Well, I think, you know
now, now that I'm 23 years old
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and you know being celibate
is not easy, it's difficult.
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But I know that when I
speak to other people about it,
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I have to be real,
those feeling are there.
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And I think that I've
made a commitment to God,
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and I've made a
choice to stay celibate
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until I get married,
until I receive the proper,
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I guess covering and
blessing to receive that.
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I think my values,
they really haven't changed
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as far as who I still am today,
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I still have a
strong prayer life.
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I think a part of
it is my relationship
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with Jesus Christ.
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I think you know, I tell
people this all the time.
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I say it, you
know, I talk to God
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as if you know
he is like my homey,
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my best friend, I
talk to him all the time
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when I'm driving, when
I wake up in the morning,
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when I go to bed in
night, when I'm at work,
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even when I'm about to preach,
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I just always in
constant communication,
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and that allows me to
be able to hear his voice
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and to make the
proper decisions now.
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I think now that
I'm older I'm realizing
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that it is hard
to walk in this life
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without having a
connection with him and so...
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One of the things that
I think about you is that
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you went through a tragedy,
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you know
especially when experiencing
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the situation with your dad
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and now you have come to
the point were you'll be...
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You will soon be a
pastor in a particular church.
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Yeah.
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You know, so how do you
reach out to these people
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that may have gone to
these tragic experiences.
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Of course.
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You know so what's gonna
be your motivation for it?
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I think each tragedy is
different in its own right.
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I think that in
my specific case,
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it was just a
dramatic experience for me,
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but I think how I can be
able to reach out to people
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is that, I know
where you've been,
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you know, I know what
you are going through.
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I think but the one thing
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that got me through
was simply Jesus Christ,
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and I think my
motivation is to restore,
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restore your peace of mind.
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I think one of the
major things about me
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when I went through my
tragedy is that I had no peace.
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You know I was...
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I hated myself,
I hated God and...
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You know
sometimes we had to realize
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that God does certain things
and it's always for our good.
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And I think that's kind of
why I feel like God set me up,
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because I knew for a while that
I was called to the ministry,
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but didn't have that
close relationship with him.
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When my father passed
away, it was difficult
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and I felt as though, I
just wasn't gonna make it,
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but I realize now
that through his death,
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a new life has
resurrected in me,
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and that I have a life
and I have a certain peace
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that just
surpasses all understanding.
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And I'm thankful
now that, you know...
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People ask me all the
time, would you change
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anything right
now, would you change.
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If you can go
back in time and change
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and do anything all over again,
I just don't think I would.
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I think I'm glad that my
father is resting and waiting
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for the King of
kings and the Lord of lords
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to call his name.
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And I'm thankful that through
his death, I have new life.
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Now, go ahead.
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And so I just feel as
though when I see people
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and see what they
are going through,
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I want them to
experience and it's difficult.
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The grieving process is hard.
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It doesn't take, you know,
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it's not just gonna
be a 12 step process
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that you go through.
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It's not gonna
be just, you know,
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few sessions with counselors.
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It takes years to get
over things of that nature.
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Doesn't matter who it
is, it can be a brother,
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it can be a sister,
it can be a grandmother,
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aunt, uncle, it doesn't matter.
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Losses are real
and death is real,
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but I serve a
Savior who still lives,
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and I want to get that
message out to all the world.
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That's a blessing.
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You know yesterday
when you, you know,
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my nephew came here to
preach for a Youth Federation,
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and we have it in
the spring and the fall,
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and what that it is
for the young people
00:19:02.70\00:19:04.67
from our 21 churches
00:19:04.71\00:19:06.51
within the Motor
City district of Detroit,
00:19:06.54\00:19:09.44
and Austin was invited
to be the guest speaker.
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And when you were preaching,
someone turned around afterward
00:19:12.88\00:19:17.09
and said, I see a
little bit of Dr. Kim in him.
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You know and here we
are family and I was just...
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I was really blessed but
here we are from a family,
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you know our Taylor family.
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Your father, Uncle Derrick,
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Cousin Ricardo, your mother, me,
00:19:33.27\00:19:38.14
here we're all speakers
and preachers and eloquent
00:19:38.17\00:19:42.34
before the Lord, even
Uncle Arthur in his own right.
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You know, I know it's a
gift from God what we have.
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You know not just a gift
of gap but when we say things,
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we say things with substance.
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And we're all here serving
the Lord and in the midst.
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You know, I want
to tell you something,
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I don't know if
you knew this story.
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I talk to your
father then on May on the...
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I guess it was April
30th on that Saturday night,
00:20:05.60\00:20:08.90
and I was making the decision
00:20:08.94\00:20:10.67
whether not to be
stewardship leader.
00:20:10.71\00:20:12.51
Stewardship leaders,
what, it's like a trustee
00:20:12.54\00:20:15.04
and helping with the
finances of the church
00:20:15.08\00:20:17.75
and the programs of the church,
00:20:17.78\00:20:19.11
and I didn't want to do it,
00:20:19.15\00:20:20.62
and I didn't
even know what it was,
00:20:20.65\00:20:21.98
okay.
00:20:22.02\00:20:23.35
And your father
said, sis, you need to pray
00:20:23.39\00:20:28.39
and I see that you
need to pray at 5.30
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and I said is that AM or PM.
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And he says sis that's AM.
00:20:33.29\00:20:35.63
He said I need you to
get on your knees and pray,
00:20:35.66\00:20:38.30
and God is gonna
open that door for you.
00:20:38.33\00:20:40.74
He said but call me
tomorrow and I'm gonna do
00:20:40.77\00:20:43.84
some research for you and,
00:20:43.87\00:20:46.34
but I feel that you
should do this for the Lord.
00:20:46.37\00:20:48.68
And I said, brother,
00:20:48.71\00:20:50.75
I said I just
can't, you know, do this.
00:20:50.78\00:20:53.38
And he was my
pastor, that was my pastor.
00:20:53.42\00:20:56.18
I called, I got
a call from Micah
00:20:56.22\00:20:58.89
on that morning
that he was sick,
00:20:58.92\00:21:00.76
then I get a call
that he had passed.
00:21:00.79\00:21:02.12
Right.
00:21:02.16\00:21:03.49
I said that can't
be, I just spoke too him.
00:21:03.53\00:21:05.46
And it was again God
saying, you know, the setup,
00:21:05.49\00:21:09.93
you know, but I got to
tell another testimony,
00:21:09.96\00:21:12.00
and I'm not ashamed
of what God has done.
00:21:12.03\00:21:14.67
My husband and I was in
some financial situation
00:21:14.70\00:21:17.77
and your mother had
received some finances
00:21:17.81\00:21:20.48
from your
father's life insurance
00:21:20.51\00:21:22.98
and our house loan
was three months behind.
00:21:23.01\00:21:24.88
Wow.
00:21:24.91\00:21:26.25
Gone into foreclosure. Wow.
00:21:26.28\00:21:28.18
Going into foreclosure
and your mom called me,
00:21:28.22\00:21:31.02
she knows her sisters.
00:21:31.05\00:21:32.62
She said to me what's wrong.
00:21:32.65\00:21:34.56
I said nothing, nothing.
00:21:34.59\00:21:36.12
We cannot be
ashamed to ask for help
00:21:36.16\00:21:38.33
when we're going
through difficulties,
00:21:38.36\00:21:40.46
and she said what is it?
00:21:40.50\00:21:41.83
And I said, you
know, the business is slow,
00:21:41.86\00:21:43.90
money is not coming in,
we're behind in house loan.
00:21:43.93\00:21:47.14
She said how much do you need.
00:21:47.17\00:21:49.30
She send it
immediately to the bank.
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Wow.
00:21:51.41\00:21:53.01
Three days later my
checks started coming in,
00:21:53.04\00:21:55.94
I reimbursed your
mother the whole amount,
00:21:55.98\00:21:59.05
the whole amount.
00:21:59.08\00:22:00.78
But God in the
midst of everything,
00:22:00.82\00:22:04.65
she stopped what she was doing
00:22:04.69\00:22:06.82
not in mourning and grieving
00:22:06.86\00:22:09.59
and said what are
your needs, big sister?
00:22:09.62\00:22:11.83
And I'm the elder sister,
and you know and I told her,
00:22:11.86\00:22:15.96
if I ever once got to
pull all this together,
00:22:16.00\00:22:18.57
I will do right 'cause
it used to be about me,
00:22:18.60\00:22:21.07
you know how Aunty Kim was.
00:22:21.10\00:22:22.57
You know all about Aunty Kim
00:22:22.60\00:22:24.44
you know that every
child has that fabulous aunty
00:22:24.47\00:22:27.41
that's what I thought of myself.
00:22:27.44\00:22:28.78
Okay.
00:22:28.81\00:22:30.15
That's what I was about to say.
00:22:30.18\00:22:31.51
You used to be I mean like...
00:22:31.55\00:22:32.88
God has done a mighty work.
00:22:32.91\00:22:35.78
You know, but I want to tell you
00:22:35.82\00:22:37.85
how much your
father meant to us,
00:22:37.89\00:22:40.72
and in the
fellowship we all had together
00:22:40.76\00:22:42.99
when you were babies.
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Right.
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And you remember,
you were born with a...
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You now, you didn't talk
about that how you were born
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with a hole in your heart.
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Got hole in my heart, right.
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Before you talk
about that, you know,
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I think what's
important is the fact that
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the relationship that
we all had is different.
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Right.
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You know my relationship
with Jimmy was different.
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But it was to the
point where he allowed me
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to express my feelings to
him and he was encouraging
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because I was not born into
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the Seventh-day Adventist faith,
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and he walked me through
and showed me the humility
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that was required
for me to understand
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what it really
meant to love Jesus
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and to really be motivated
enough to extend myself
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and to be more
inquisitive to understand
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what I was getting myself into.
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Right.
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And he really was
my friend, you know,
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I really
considered him to be a very,
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very good friend of mine.
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Definitely.
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People keep asking why haven't
I come back to Oakwood alumni
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for years and years and years,
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because I remember standing
in the front of the Von Braun
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taking those
pictures with your dad.
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And then a few weeks
later, I get the call
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and I couldn't go back.
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Austin, I couldn't go back.
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This was the first time
I've been back in seven years.
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Wow. Seven years.
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I never knew that, wow.
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Yes.
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Well, I just think that,
that just shows his impact
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that he had in all of us.
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It wasn't just us, you know,
Uncle Arthur I know he truly,
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you were one of his
best friends, you know.
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Every time you
got a chance to come,
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you all come,
we come over there.
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You know, he would
always want that time
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when we'll go to bed
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and he would just
sit up and talk to you.
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I always used to
wonder, you know,
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what would you all
talk about sitting up,
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and now that I'm
older, I can understand
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and just talk to you and
just you get a point to me in.
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You know, can we
love you just as a sister,
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and I think that when
we get to the kingdom,
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the embrace that
we all will share,
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you know, I think that
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I can't imagine
what it's gonna be like.
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Often times I
dream about, you know,
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what will I do, you know,
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what emotions will I
have and it's just...
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I just got to get there.
You know I go to get there.
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We as a family
I've got to get there.
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And I think that's the message
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that I kind of have for
young people living today.
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I want to just go back.
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My nephew was born
with a hole in his heart,
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and my wedding was
going to have to be postponed
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because Pastor Humphreys,
he married Arthur and I
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and my sister called and
said Austin could travel,
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and Jimmy could to the wedding
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and you know look
at you today, you know,
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health wise how you are doing?
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Doing good, really good.
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I am excited that
the hole in my heart
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wasn't a thing
that still reoccurs.
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I'm able to preach
the gospel with power.
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Power.
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I'm still able to whip Uncle
Arthur on a basketball court.
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So, you know the
thing, we're doing good.
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I think the hole in my heart,
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I think I have a
scar in my heart,
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it's just a constant
reminder I never forget
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when I came out
the operation room,
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they will always tell me
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the first person I
cried out for was my father,
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and I think
it's just a testimony
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everyday of
God's grace and mercy.
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Every time I feel
discouraged, I always know
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that I have this
wound and I love the scars.
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People say they hate the scars,
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but my scar always
remind me of what God did
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and how he saved my life
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and the connection
I have with my dad.
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I can remember embracing him,
and I was scared and nervous,
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but I just know that anytime
I got into my dad's hands
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or somebody's hands,
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every time I got into his hands,
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I always knew
that there was safety.
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And so, the scar just reminds me
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even though it was
years and years ago,
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still is a constant reminder
of the mercy and grace of God.
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God's setup, you
know, that was an powerful,
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powerful message
you had yesterday
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but it made me think
about how we think about setup.
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A lot of times
we think about setup
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from a negative perspective.
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Right.
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In this case it was positive.
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It's a positive thing
you know God set us up,
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because he saw
what was down the lies,
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he saw our future and he was
actually trying to prepare us.
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I agree.
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You know so. I agree.
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That first thought
instead of it being negative,
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we had to realize if
it's coming from God,
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it's going to be positive.
Yes, we want to be positive.
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Right, right,
definitely I think the setup.
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I think God sets all of
us up in different ways.
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Sometime it's a setup we
won't even know about it.
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We look at how
God spared our lives
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and we can always
say that, you know,
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when we see it and
we look back over it
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and we see the route that
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we wanted to go
was not the best.
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I still even, you know,
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remember not being
outside of my father,
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just I know God has set me up
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to where I could
have made decisions
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where things
happen out of nowhere,
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and I believe my
life, I'm still here
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because he set me up,
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so anytime he wants to
set me up, he can do it.
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He can do it.
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And I know, so definitely.
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Well, listen, we're out of time.
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We have just a few minutes left.
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I just want to
say few seconds left.
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God can set me up
anytime and God is waiting
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and he is willing to set you up.
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Austin, congratulations
on your graduation.
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Thank you.
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We will be there to watch
you walk across that stage.
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On that stage, yes.
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And we love you and may
God continue to bless you.
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I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin.
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I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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And thank you and you
continue to make it work.
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God bless you.
Let God set you up.
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Amen.
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