Participants: Arthur Nowlin & Kim Logan-Nowlin (Host), Chaplain Porsche
Series Code: MIW
Program Code: MIW000055A
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10:02 Right, right, right. You know.
10:04 So, yes, so I am... 10:06 I always tell them that I am their Queen 10:09 and I am their first example 10:10 of what a virtuous woman should be 10:12 and so I have to model myself after the Proverbs 31:1 10:15 and so they will see 10:17 what they are supposed to expect from a woman. 10:19 How she is supposed to talk, how she is supposed to walk, 10:21 how she is supposed to talk sweetly to them. 10:23 Yeah. 10:25 How she is supposed to just operate always in love. 10:26 Yes. And then caring for them. Absolutely. 10:29 They respect you. Absolutely. 10:31 Have they ever stepped out of the line with you? 10:34 Absolutely. If they did, what would you do? 10:36 What would you do? You know what? 10:38 I love them, my boys a lot, 10:39 but I also knew when to get with them, 10:43 you know, I would say, 10:45 I really had to spank my oldest one 10:49 and my youngest one maybe two or three times 10:51 throughout their entire life, which was a good thing. 10:54 My middle one was my-- 10:55 one that wanted to test me a little bit, just to see. 10:57 Come on, the thorn in the side. Yeah, yeah. 10:59 But he is the sweetest, he loves on me. 11:02 He will send me text messages throughout the day, 11:03 just checking in on you girl. 11:05 He thinks I'm his girlfriend. 11:07 That's the way, I'm checking on you girl, 11:09 you know, and so-- 11:10 but he is a sweetheart, I love my boys. 11:11 Are they here in Michigan area? Yes, they are. 11:13 Yes, they are. That's beautiful. 11:15 Now you are divorced. Yes, ma'am. 11:16 You went through a difficult divorce, 11:17 but yet God brought you through it. 11:19 Absolutely. And I'm waiting on my new boys. 11:21 You better say it. Amen. 11:23 He is coming, I dreamed about him last night. 11:24 No, you didn't. Yes, I did. 11:26 God kind of showed me some things, some examples, 11:28 and I'm like, I don't know was the real thing, 11:30 but he was just giving me hope. 11:31 And you want that blessing and hope. 11:33 So you are looking forward to remarry? 11:35 I look forward to get married. 11:36 A companionship. Yes, absolutely. 11:37 And we never had that opportunity. 11:40 Give us a little bit of your understanding 11:43 what people are in need of? 11:44 We see Detroit come back and it's turning around, 11:47 where is the hurt, the pain in our city, 11:50 in our world? 11:51 Absolutely, you know, there are so many people 11:53 who are just out there, they are lost. 11:55 There are lot of people who are just lost 11:57 because they've not had hope. 11:59 But speaking of the city of Detroit, 12:00 I think there is an opportunity for us to be the comeback city. 12:04 Comeback city. 12:05 I am so excited about what I am seeing 12:07 and it was almost as if when, 12:10 Mike Duggan became the mayor of the city of Detroit. 12:13 There were so many people that were standing on the outside, 12:16 it's almost like it was a line here 12:17 waiting for that campaign to be complete. 12:21 And when they announced 12:22 that he was the mayor of the city of Detroit, 12:24 it was almost like a switch went on and everybody said, 12:26 all right let's go, let's move forward, 12:28 let's do this thing. 12:29 And so over, it's been less than a year, 12:31 but you can just see, you can just feel the passion, 12:34 the feel, the unity, 12:37 the vibration of a city singing, 12:39 "We are coming back. We are coming back." 12:40 And so, I am just excited to be a Detroiter. 12:42 Recently sold my family home and moved downtown Detroit 12:46 and I'm loving, you know, the apartment life. 12:47 You downtown? I'm downtown now. 12:49 Okay, I will come visit. So I am loving it. 12:53 Oh, my goodness! 12:54 Everything is going on, 12:56 we're gonna have the festival soon. 12:57 And all of that, you know, eat and greets and everything. 13:00 You know, let's talk a little bit 13:02 about your relationship 13:03 with your colleagues in the hospital? 13:09 You know, when men see you and they are also chaplains, 13:14 you know, your colleagues, 13:15 how are you treated as a female? 13:17 Absolutely, actually with a lot of respect, 13:20 because there are lot of times 13:21 when you'll have a female patient 13:23 that doesn't necessarily want a male coming into the room. 13:27 And because I consider myself to be a inter-faith chaplain 13:31 because I respect the various denominations of individuals 13:34 that come into the hospital and so a lot of times 13:37 what I'll do is, I'll ask them, 13:38 if they would like for me to come and visit them 13:40 or if I can put them in contact with their pastor 13:43 or with their rabbi or with their priest. 13:45 And so, we give them options, 13:46 because I don't want to have anyone 13:48 to come into the hospital and they feel that, 13:50 I'm their only options, 13:51 some of the other chaplains are their only options 13:53 in the hospital and so. 13:54 I am treated with a lot of respect 13:56 because people will say to me, you know, 13:57 Porsche somebody may want to see you 13:59 or I need your support, 14:00 I need your resources, can you help me? 14:03 That's Excellent. 14:04 You recently took a trip to Japan, 14:07 tell us about that? 14:08 Well, I had an opportunity to go there 14:10 initially as an armor-bearer 14:12 and just to be an assistant 14:14 to another sister in the ministry, 14:15 who asked me to come and participate 14:18 and it was a wonderful experience 14:20 because, even before I got there, 14:21 someone else had backed out and so they are supposed to go, 14:25 they had an emergency in their family, 14:26 which opened up a door of opportunity for me, 14:28 so as I began to converse with the person who was, 14:31 you know the overseer, you know, of the trip, 14:34 she began to ask me, what else do you do? 14:37 And I began to share with her my talents and skills 14:39 that I've been blessed with 14:40 and she said, wow, that's interesting. 14:42 She says, I want you to bring a word. 14:44 So I said okay, I'll be ready and I'll bring that word. 14:46 And so, I also have been blessed 14:48 to be able to do going through school 14:51 to become a healing touch therapist. 14:52 So I was able to have that experience 14:55 when I was there. 14:56 Did a little bit of singing 14:58 and I did little bit of liturgical dancing, 15:01 you know, when I was there as well 15:02 and so just ministering to the woman that were there. 15:05 Some of them were actually in the military, 15:06 some of them were military wives 15:08 and some of them were women who just, 15:10 actually just live there in the various cities 15:14 that we had an opportunity to visit with. 15:17 The hurt has no color line. Absolutely. 15:20 The pain has no color line. Absolutely. 15:23 People are hurting everywhere. Everywhere. 15:25 And we need to be able to reach them 15:27 and God has already promised that He will open up a window, 15:30 you won't have room enough to see. 15:33 And so as we continue to minister 15:34 and even having you here today, 15:36 ministering to thousands who will view this program. 15:40 To help them understand 15:41 that their vision or dreams don't have to die. 15:44 Why is that women-- 15:46 And I know not just women but men, 15:48 but what is the cause for people 15:50 to give up on their dreams, you know? 15:52 You know what, I think sometimes 15:53 we surround ourselves by negative people 15:56 and we don't really listen or take that opportunity 16:00 just to step back and shut those naysayers 16:03 and those dream killers down and saying, 16:06 you know, I know what I am supposed to do, 16:07 I have to find my purpose 16:08 and I'm gonna walk in this purpose 16:10 and I'm gonna be on purpose with my purpose. 16:12 Come on now. 16:13 So, I just truly believe 16:15 that if we begin to surround ourselves 16:18 with like minded individuals. 16:20 And uplift each other and encourage each other, 16:22 then those individuals that are coming across our path 16:25 that are trying to hold us back and saying, 16:27 you will never be able to do that, 16:28 we need to be able to draw the line and just say, 16:30 you know what, this time I'll offer this relationship. 16:32 There is a season for everything 16:34 and your season is complete. 16:35 Thank you so much 16:36 and escort them out of our lives. 16:38 Come on now. 16:39 That takes me to you coming into my life. 16:41 Yes. 16:42 You were referred to me as a patient 16:45 and when I got the call from you, 16:47 and I said, she's a chaplain. 16:49 Not to say chaplains and pastors 16:51 don't need some encouragement-- 16:53 And they need to step out and unload sometimes, you know. 16:57 Absolutely. Absolutely. 16:58 But what brought you to Kim Logan Counseling? 17:01 Well, you know, as I said before-- 17:04 Normally I have group of other ministers, 17:06 sisters that will support me on my journey, 17:09 but it had gotten to a point 17:10 where I was a little overwhelmed. 17:12 You know, sometimes when people are constantly coming to you 17:14 for help and assistance 17:16 and the phone was just constantly ringing, 17:18 I just didn't know when to just shut the phone off. 17:20 I always sleep with my cell phone right next to me 17:22 so people know that they can call me at anytime, 17:23 text me anytime. 17:25 I made myself basically too available. 17:27 And so with being too available, 17:29 I began to feel some pain in myself, 17:33 meaning that, I wasn't really going through anything 17:36 that was bringing me down, 17:37 but I just felt as if I needed some support myself. 17:41 You know, helping me just to know when to draw that line, 17:44 so by coming to you 17:46 and talking some things out with you, 17:48 it really, really helped me 17:49 to get through that little journey, 17:52 that little door that I needed to go through 17:54 in order to be able to do everything 17:56 that I have been purposed here to do. 17:58 And also being able to realize some things 18:00 that were going on in my life that I did not know 18:01 were going on, 18:03 you would help me to open up and see those things as well. 18:06 And I saw you opened up to it, I know. 18:08 At first, not like you were putting a barrier, 18:11 but I was like had to process in a very unique manner, 18:15 because of the work that you do and coming spiritual, 18:19 this is why the Bible says 18:20 to study to show thyself approved. 18:23 A workman that need not be ashamed, 18:24 rightly dividing the word of truth. 18:26 Because I can't come to you in ministering and healing 18:31 if I don't stand on the word of God. 18:33 And each time we minister each other, 18:35 we weren't pulling out our Bibles, 18:37 we were ministering. 18:38 Because the Bible says, if you put it inside of you, 18:41 he will bring all things back to your remembrance. 18:44 And this is why a lot of people don't want-- 18:46 they don't want to study the word of God. 18:48 And because the word of God is gonna change. 18:49 Absolutely. 18:51 It will position you, I have a new book called 18:53 "Planning, Positioning and Purpose." 18:56 So when you understand, 18:58 again, your plan and my husband just talked about, 19:00 do you have a plan for your life? 19:02 And then God will position you with that plan 19:05 and then give you your purpose. 19:07 Absolutely, I love it. But people want to skip over. 19:09 You know, all the planning part of it. 19:13 I want to say to you how important it is 19:16 that you recognize that timeout. 19:19 That you understand that, I'm gonna have this timeout. 19:22 I'm gonna take care of me. So, what do you do for you? 19:25 Well, you know what? 19:27 It's funny that you brought up that word "position" 19:29 because when I'm ministering, I'm always telling people 19:30 you have to in position 19:32 to receive whatever it is God is trying to give you. 19:34 I said, you know, I like to use sports 19:36 because I love sports. 19:37 'cause that's one of the things that I do to keep myself going. 19:40 Going to football games, basketball games, do baseball 19:44 and I would like to workout, 19:45 I love yoga, the whole nine yards, 19:47 so with that being said, 19:48 is I always say like for example, 19:50 when a basketball player 19:52 is in the process of receiving the ball, 19:54 he has to get in position to be able to receive it 19:56 form his partner, Or with, with one of his-- 20:00 His teammates. Teammates, there you are. 20:02 His teammates in order to receive, 20:03 same thing with the football, you know, 20:05 you just can't have your hands out like this, 20:06 just expecting that the ball is gonna come in hands, 20:08 you got to be in a position, a certain position 20:10 that you will be able to receive the ball, right? 20:12 That's right. 20:13 So that's the same thing when God is giving us a word 20:15 or He is giving us some direction, some clarity, 20:17 we have to be in a position 20:19 where we're still or we're quiet, 20:21 we're shutting down everybody else 20:22 other than His voice to be able to hear 20:25 specifically what we are supposed to hear from Him. 20:27 Yes. You know, so. 20:28 See, I got to learn that in my marriage, 20:30 you know, I tend to just go add it. 20:33 You know, I got to learn to position myself. 20:34 Absolutely, for the blessed, 20:36 for the good things, give him away-- 20:37 Come on, I'm trying to keep by boy as I like. 20:41 No one get, but I think, 20:43 I just sometimes get on his lass, 20:45 you know but that's life. 20:46 That's life. You are human. I'm human. 20:48 You know, he knows, I'm not perfect, 20:51 you know, sometimes, me may think we are low, 20:53 you know, are not perfect but I know I'm not 20:56 because I'm God's vessel. 20:57 That's right. 20:58 In our closing thoughts, you know, 21:00 what can you say to individuals about counseling 21:04 and care counseling, court counseling, 21:06 what can you say? 21:08 Well, one of the things I would like to say is, 21:09 that the caregiver, there are so many people 21:11 that are out there that are caregivers. 21:13 Caregivers have to make sure 21:16 that they take care of themselves, 21:17 because I see so many people who are caregivers 21:20 that come into various institutions 21:22 who are so busy taking care of their loved ones 21:24 or their significant others or their children, 21:26 that they don't take time out to care for themselves 21:30 and go get help and reach out to someone 21:32 to be able to sit down and have a conversation 21:33 with like yourself to be able to say, 21:35 you know what, I am about to lose it here, 21:38 I don't know which way to go, I need some clarity, 21:40 I need some direction, I, basically the bottom-line, 21:42 I need help. 21:43 Yes, yes. 21:44 And knowing when you get to that point. 21:46 Matter of fact even before you get to that point 21:48 to have some continuous conversation 21:50 with someone that can help you on your journey. 21:52 Amen. 21:54 Well, I want to thank you 'cause truly 21:55 you just helped today, 21:57 and I want to take me some me time this week from me. 22:00 Take a nice bubble bath. Take a bubble bath. 22:01 Relaxation, put your music on. Yeah. 22:03 Music, candles. And praise God. 22:06 Well listen, I thank you and I love you 22:08 I love you too. 22:09 God bless you, Chaplain Porsche. 22:11 Thank you, it's been a pleasure. 22:12 Arthur, when we talk about being God's instrument, 22:15 Chaplain Porsche really broke some things down. 22:18 Let's look at some of the issues 22:19 she was dealing with the stress alone. 22:21 What does stress do to someone on a job like that? 22:25 Well, especially by her being a female and a chaplain, 22:29 not to say that she is the only one. 22:32 I just think sometimes 22:34 it creates little extra difficulty 22:38 and when she is trying to extend herself, 22:41 'cause I think she even mentioned 22:42 going to some of the hospital rooms, 22:45 they didn't even want to see her. 22:46 Right. 22:48 They didn't want her to come in. 22:49 They wanted a male chaplain. 22:50 Yeah. 22:52 And you know, and to me 22:53 that can be a really, really a burden. 22:56 So that's a stress that really is unacceptable, 23:00 but living in the times we are, we are in now, 23:04 we can understand 23:06 that some people are just not progressive enough. 23:09 That's a good term "progressive enough." 23:11 So she is dealing with the stress. 23:13 What about her recognizing her boundaries? 23:15 How important is that in her role? 23:17 Well, I think that was one situation 23:20 where she had to realize what her boundaries are, 23:24 you know. 23:25 She had to move forward to accept the fact 23:29 that even though some people may not want her in the room 23:34 that instead of her becoming depressed or stressed, 23:39 she had to accept that fact and move on 23:42 and deal with someone else that may be willing to have her 23:46 and to demonstrate her abilities. 23:49 I know one of the things that 23:50 she always talks to me about was, 23:52 by being a chaplain, but she said, 23:53 I had to look to the Lord, who is coming for my help. 23:57 My help coming from the Lord. 23:58 Yes, that's right. 24:00 And we have to remember that as God's people, 24:02 His children, that He is there for us, 24:04 He never said it was going to be easy, 24:06 it's gonna be difficult days 24:08 but He would be there to see us through 24:11 and I know that, 24:12 that's who Chaplain Porsche dependent on, 24:15 truly her Lord and Savior. 24:17 That's really important and that's the good scripture. 24:19 I think what even comes to mind 24:23 as you were speaking about that is, 24:26 once again we are talking about dealing with issues, 24:29 we are talking about dealing with stress 24:31 and we are talking about someone 24:33 that may have difficulties, 24:35 because you are given a position, 24:39 you are placed in this authority 24:42 and now because of your gender, 24:46 you are rejected, 24:48 that's something difficult to deal with, 24:50 but that's when she has to rely on her faith. 24:53 Yes. 24:54 You know, and rely on what she has been taught. 24:57 Yeah. 24:58 Because she may not be able to please men. 25:00 That's right. 25:02 You know, but as long as she continues to believe 25:06 that she is doing what God has for her to do, 25:09 that's the most important thing, 25:10 that's the motivation. 25:12 That is motivating and we as God's people. 25:15 Again she has to recognize her stress that she was under, 25:18 realize her boundaries, rely on God 25:21 and also look at how God was moving her. 25:24 She was still motivated to do the work of God. 25:26 Yes, and that's really important. 25:28 You can't allow yourself to get so down 25:31 that you think that something is wrong with you. 25:33 Right. 25:34 That's the time that you really have to believe 25:37 that God is directing your path. 25:38 Did you begin questioning 25:40 and then not accepting who you are 25:43 and what God is doing in your life 25:44 and doubting God, the Bible says in Hebrews 11:1 25:48 "Faith is the substance of things hope for 25:51 and things, and evidence of things not seen," 25:54 but in verse 6, that's the verse I love the most 25:57 and it says, "God is a rewarder of them 26:00 that diligently seek him." 26:02 So you have to please God. 26:03 You can't worry about pleasing men. 26:06 You have to look at pleasing God. 26:07 But once again, you know, 26:09 this is when you have to be trained 26:13 to rely on that, 26:14 you have to accept that through my faith, 26:17 I'm gonna get through any of the trails, 26:19 the difficulties, whatever I may be facing 26:22 and then be encouraging 26:25 especially as a chaplain in the hospital, 26:27 you have to be encouraging to someone 26:30 that may not want you in the hospital. 26:33 Well, we want you to stay encouraged 26:35 and we want you to say motivated 26:37 and know that God is with you. 26:38 I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin. 26:40 And I'm Arthur Nowlin. 26:42 God bless. |
Revised 2016-04-11