Right, right, right. You know.
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So, yes, so I am...
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I always tell them
that I am their Queen
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and I am their first example
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of what a
virtuous woman should be
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and so I have to model
myself after the Proverbs 31:1
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and so they will see
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what they are supposed
to expect from a woman.
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How she is supposed to talk,
how she is supposed to walk,
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how she is supposed
to talk sweetly to them.
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Yeah.
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How she is supposed to
just operate always in love.
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Yes. And then caring
for them. Absolutely.
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They respect you. Absolutely.
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Have they ever stepped
out of the line with you?
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Absolutely. If they
did, what would you do?
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What would you
do? You know what?
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I love them, my boys a lot,
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but I also knew
when to get with them,
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you know, I would say,
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I really had to
spank my oldest one
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and my youngest one
maybe two or three times
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throughout their entire
life, which was a good thing.
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My middle one was my--
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one that wanted to test
me a little bit, just to see.
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Come on, the thorn
in the side. Yeah, yeah.
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But he is the
sweetest, he loves on me.
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He will send me text
messages throughout the day,
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just checking in on you girl.
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He thinks I'm his girlfriend.
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That's the way, I'm
checking on you girl,
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you know, and so--
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but he is a
sweetheart, I love my boys.
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Are they here in
Michigan area? Yes, they are.
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Yes, they are. That's beautiful.
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Now you are
divorced. Yes, ma'am.
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You went through
a difficult divorce,
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but yet God
brought you through it.
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Absolutely. And I'm
waiting on my new boys.
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You better say it. Amen.
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He is coming, I
dreamed about him last night.
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No, you didn't. Yes, I did.
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God kind of showed me
some things, some examples,
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and I'm like, I don't
know was the real thing,
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but he was just giving me hope.
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And you want that
blessing and hope.
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So you are looking
forward to remarry?
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I look forward to get married.
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A
companionship. Yes, absolutely.
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And we never had
that opportunity.
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Give us a little bit
of your understanding
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what people are in need of?
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We see Detroit come
back and it's turning around,
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where is the hurt,
the pain in our city,
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in our world?
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Absolutely, you know,
there are so many people
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who are just out
there, they are lost.
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There are lot of
people who are just lost
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because they've not had hope.
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But speaking of
the city of Detroit,
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I think there is an opportunity
for us to be the comeback city.
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Comeback city.
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I am so excited
about what I am seeing
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and it was almost as if when,
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Mike Duggan became the
mayor of the city of Detroit.
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There were so many people that
were standing on the outside,
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it's almost like
it was a line here
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waiting for that
campaign to be complete.
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And when they announced
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that he was the mayor
of the city of Detroit,
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it was almost like a switch
went on and everybody said,
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all right let's
go, let's move forward,
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let's do this thing.
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And so over, it's
been less than a year,
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but you can just see, you
can just feel the passion,
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the feel, the unity,
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the vibration of a city singing,
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"We are coming
back. We are coming back."
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And so, I am just
excited to be a Detroiter.
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Recently sold my family
home and moved downtown Detroit
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and I'm loving, you
know, the apartment life.
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You downtown? I'm downtown now.
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Okay, I will come
visit. So I am loving it.
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Oh, my goodness!
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Everything is going on,
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we're gonna have
the festival soon.
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And all of that, you know,
eat and greets and everything.
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You know, let's
talk a little bit
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about your relationship
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with your
colleagues in the hospital?
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You know, when men see you
and they are also chaplains,
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you know, your colleagues,
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how are you treated as a female?
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Absolutely, actually
with a lot of respect,
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because there are lot of times
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when you'll
have a female patient
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that doesn't necessarily want
a male coming into the room.
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And because I consider myself
to be a inter-faith chaplain
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because I respect the various
denominations of individuals
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that come into the
hospital and so a lot of times
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what I'll do is, I'll ask them,
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if they would like for
me to come and visit them
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or if I can put them in
contact with their pastor
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or with their rabbi
or with their priest.
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And so, we give them options,
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because I don't
want to have anyone
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to come into the
hospital and they feel that,
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I'm their only options,
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some of the other
chaplains are their only options
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in the hospital and so.
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I am treated
with a lot of respect
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because people will
say to me, you know,
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Porsche somebody
may want to see you
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or I need your support,
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I need your
resources, can you help me?
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That's Excellent.
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You recently
took a trip to Japan,
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tell us about that?
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Well, I had an
opportunity to go there
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initially as an armor-bearer
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and just to be an assistant
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to another
sister in the ministry,
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who asked me to
come and participate
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and it was a
wonderful experience
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because, even
before I got there,
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someone else had backed out
and so they are supposed to go,
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they had an
emergency in their family,
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which opened up a
door of opportunity for me,
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so as I began to converse
with the person who was,
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you know the
overseer, you know, of the trip,
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she began to ask
me, what else do you do?
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And I began to share
with her my talents and skills
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that I've been blessed with
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and she said, wow,
that's interesting.
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She says, I want
you to bring a word.
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So I said okay, I'll be
ready and I'll bring that word.
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And so, I also have been blessed
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to be able to do
going through school
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to become a
healing touch therapist.
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So I was able to
have that experience
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when I was there.
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Did a little bit of singing
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and I did little bit
of liturgical dancing,
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you know, when I
was there as well
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and so just ministering
to the woman that were there.
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Some of them were
actually in the military,
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some of them were military wives
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and some of them
were women who just,
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actually just live
there in the various cities
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that we had an
opportunity to visit with.
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The hurt has no
color line. Absolutely.
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The pain has no
color line. Absolutely.
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People are hurting
everywhere. Everywhere.
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And we need to be
able to reach them
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and God has already promised
that He will open up a window,
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you won't have
room enough to see.
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And so as we
continue to minister
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and even having you here today,
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ministering to thousands
who will view this program.
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To help them understand
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that their vision or
dreams don't have to die.
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Why is that women--
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And I know not
just women but men,
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but what is the cause for people
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to give up on
their dreams, you know?
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You know what, I think sometimes
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we surround
ourselves by negative people
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and we don't really
listen or take that opportunity
00:15:56.75\00:16:00.06
just to step back
and shut those naysayers
00:16:00.09\00:16:02.99
and those dream
killers down and saying,
00:16:03.02\00:16:06.06
you know, I know
what I am supposed to do,
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I have to find my purpose
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and I'm gonna
walk in this purpose
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and I'm gonna be on
purpose with my purpose.
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Come on now.
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So, I just truly believe
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that if we begin
to surround ourselves
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with like minded individuals.
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And uplift each other
and encourage each other,
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then those individuals
that are coming across our path
00:16:22.98\00:16:25.58
that are trying to
hold us back and saying,
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you will never
be able to do that,
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we need to be able to
draw the line and just say,
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you know what, this time
I'll offer this relationship.
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There is a season for everything
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and your season is complete.
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Thank you so much
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and escort them
out of our lives.
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Come on now.
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That takes me to
you coming into my life.
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Yes.
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You were referred
to me as a patient
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and when I got
the call from you,
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and I said, she's a chaplain.
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Not to say chaplains and pastors
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don't need some encouragement--
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And they need to step out
and unload sometimes, you know.
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:16:57.55\00:16:58.88
But what brought you
to Kim Logan Counseling?
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Well, you know,
as I said before--
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Normally I have
group of other ministers,
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sisters that will
support me on my journey,
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but it had gotten to a point
00:17:09.32\00:17:10.66
where I was a
little overwhelmed.
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You know, sometimes when people
are constantly coming to you
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for help and assistance
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and the phone was
just constantly ringing,
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I just didn't know when
to just shut the phone off.
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I always sleep with my
cell phone right next to me
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so people know that
they can call me at anytime,
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text me anytime.
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I made myself
basically too available.
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And so with being too available,
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I began to feel
some pain in myself,
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meaning that, I wasn't
really going through anything
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that was bringing me down,
00:17:36.15\00:17:37.62
but I just felt as if I
needed some support myself.
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You know, helping me just
to know when to draw that line,
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so by coming to you
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and talking some
things out with you,
00:17:46.13\00:17:48.06
it really, really helped me
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to get through
that little journey,
00:17:49.56\00:17:52.50
that little door that
I needed to go through
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in order to be
able to do everything
00:17:54.44\00:17:56.20
that I have been
purposed here to do.
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And also being able
to realize some things
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that were going on in
my life that I did not know
00:18:00.21\00:18:01.88
were going on,
00:18:01.91\00:18:03.24
you would help me to open up
and see those things as well.
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And I saw you
opened up to it, I know.
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At first, not like you
were putting a barrier,
00:18:08.65\00:18:11.32
but I was like had to
process in a very unique manner,
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because of the work that
you do and coming spiritual,
00:18:15.72\00:18:19.09
this is why the Bible says
00:18:19.13\00:18:20.76
to study to show
thyself approved.
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A workman that
need not be ashamed,
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rightly dividing
the word of truth.
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Because I can't come to
you in ministering and healing
00:18:26.90\00:18:31.31
if I don't stand
on the word of God.
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And each time we
minister each other,
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we weren't
pulling out our Bibles,
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we were ministering.
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Because the Bible says,
if you put it inside of you,
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he will bring all things
back to your remembrance.
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And this is why a lot
of people don't want--
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they don't want to
study the word of God.
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And because the word
of God is gonna change.
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Absolutely.
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It will position you,
I have a new book called
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"Planning,
Positioning and Purpose."
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So when you understand,
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again, your plan and my
husband just talked about,
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do you have a
plan for your life?
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And then God will
position you with that plan
00:19:02.64\00:19:05.77
and then give you your purpose.
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Absolutely, I love it.
But people want to skip over.
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You know, all the
planning part of it.
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I want to say to
you how important it is
00:19:13.55\00:19:16.22
that you recognize that timeout.
00:19:16.25\00:19:19.02
That you understand that,
I'm gonna have this timeout.
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I'm gonna take care of me.
So, what do you do for you?
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Well, you know what?
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It's funny that you
brought up that word "position"
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because when I'm ministering,
I'm always telling people
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you have to in position
00:19:30.97\00:19:32.67
to receive whatever it is
God is trying to give you.
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I said, you know,
I like to use sports
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because I love sports.
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'cause that's one of the things
that I do to keep myself going.
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Going to football games,
basketball games, do baseball
00:19:40.04\00:19:44.45
and I would like to workout,
00:19:44.48\00:19:45.81
I love yoga, the
whole nine yards,
00:19:45.85\00:19:47.48
so with that being said,
00:19:47.52\00:19:48.85
is I always say
like for example,
00:19:48.88\00:19:50.22
when a basketball player
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is in the process
of receiving the ball,
00:19:52.25\00:19:54.46
he has to get in position
to be able to receive it
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form his partner, Or
with, with one of his--
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His teammates.
Teammates, there you are.
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His teammates in
order to receive,
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same thing with
the football, you know,
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you just can't have
your hands out like this,
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just expecting that the
ball is gonna come in hands,
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you got to be in a
position, a certain position
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that you will be able
to receive the ball, right?
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That's right.
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So that's the same thing
when God is giving us a word
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or He is giving us some
direction, some clarity,
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we have to be in a position
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where we're
still or we're quiet,
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we're shutting
down everybody else
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other than His
voice to be able to hear
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specifically what we are
supposed to hear from Him.
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Yes. You know, so.
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See, I got to learn
that in my marriage,
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you know, I tend
to just go add it.
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You know, I got to
learn to position myself.
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Absolutely, for the blessed,
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for the good
things, give him away--
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Come on, I'm trying
to keep by boy as I like.
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No one get, but I think,
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I just
sometimes get on his lass,
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you know but that's life.
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That's life. You
are human. I'm human.
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You know, he
knows, I'm not perfect,
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you know, sometimes,
me may think we are low,
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you know, are not
perfect but I know I'm not
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because I'm God's vessel.
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That's right.
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In our closing
thoughts, you know,
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what can you say to
individuals about counseling
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and care
counseling, court counseling,
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what can you say?
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Well, one of the
things I would like to say is,
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that the caregiver,
there are so many people
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that are out there
that are caregivers.
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Caregivers have to make sure
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that they take
care of themselves,
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because I see so many
people who are caregivers
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that come into
various institutions
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who are so busy taking
care of their loved ones
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or their significant
others or their children,
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that they don't take time
out to care for themselves
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and go get help and
reach out to someone
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to be able to sit down
and have a conversation
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with like
yourself to be able to say,
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you know what, I am
about to lose it here,
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I don't know which way
to go, I need some clarity,
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I need some direction, I,
basically the bottom-line,
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I need help.
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Yes, yes.
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And knowing when
you get to that point.
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Matter of fact even
before you get to that point
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to have some
continuous conversation
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with someone that can
help you on your journey.
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Amen.
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Well, I want to
thank you 'cause truly
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you just helped today,
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and I want to take me
some me time this week from me.
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Take a nice bubble
bath. Take a bubble bath.
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Relaxation, put
your music on. Yeah.
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Music, candles. And praise God.
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Well listen, I
thank you and I love you
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I love you too.
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God bless you, Chaplain Porsche.
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Thank you, it's been a pleasure.
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Arthur, when we talk
about being God's instrument,
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Chaplain Porsche
really broke some things down.
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Let's look at some of the issues
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she was dealing
with the stress alone.
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What does stress do to
someone on a job like that?
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Well, especially by her
being a female and a chaplain,
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not to say that
she is the only one.
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I just think sometimes
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it creates
little extra difficulty
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and when she is
trying to extend herself,
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'cause I think
she even mentioned
00:22:41.09\00:22:42.86
going to some of
the hospital rooms,
00:22:42.89\00:22:45.43
they didn't
even want to see her.
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Right.
00:22:46.83\00:22:48.16
They didn't want her to come in.
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They wanted a male chaplain.
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Yeah.
00:22:50.93\00:22:52.27
And you know, and to me
00:22:52.30\00:22:53.64
that can be a
really, really a burden.
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So that's a stress
that really is unacceptable,
00:22:56.24\00:23:00.71
but living in the
times we are, we are in now,
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we can understand
00:23:04.85\00:23:06.18
that some people are
just not progressive enough.
00:23:06.21\00:23:09.78
That's a good term
"progressive enough."
00:23:09.82\00:23:11.62
So she is
dealing with the stress.
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What about her
recognizing her boundaries?
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How important is
that in her role?
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Well, I think
that was one situation
00:23:17.96\00:23:20.56
where she had to
realize what her boundaries are,
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you know.
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She had to move
forward to accept the fact
00:23:25.73\00:23:29.84
that even though some people
may not want her in the room
00:23:29.87\00:23:34.24
that instead of her
becoming depressed or stressed,
00:23:34.28\00:23:39.28
she had to accept
that fact and move on
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and deal with someone else
that may be willing to have her
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and to
demonstrate her abilities.
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I know one of the things that
00:23:49.19\00:23:50.53
she always
talks to me about was,
00:23:50.56\00:23:52.33
by being a
chaplain, but she said,
00:23:52.36\00:23:53.90
I had to look to the
Lord, who is coming for my help.
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My help coming from the Lord.
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Yes, that's right.
00:23:58.93\00:24:00.27
And we have to
remember that as God's people,
00:24:00.30\00:24:02.50
His children, that
He is there for us,
00:24:02.54\00:24:04.77
He never said it
was going to be easy,
00:24:04.81\00:24:06.84
it's gonna be difficult days
00:24:06.88\00:24:08.58
but He would be
there to see us through
00:24:08.61\00:24:11.45
and I know that,
00:24:11.48\00:24:12.81
that's who Chaplain
Porsche dependent on,
00:24:12.85\00:24:15.28
truly her Lord and Savior.
00:24:15.32\00:24:17.05
That's really important
and that's the good scripture.
00:24:17.09\00:24:19.92
I think what even comes to mind
00:24:19.95\00:24:23.32
as you were
speaking about that is,
00:24:23.36\00:24:26.03
once again we are talking
about dealing with issues,
00:24:26.06\00:24:29.06
we are talking
about dealing with stress
00:24:29.10\00:24:31.33
and we are talking about someone
00:24:31.37\00:24:32.97
that may have difficulties,
00:24:33.00\00:24:35.84
because you are
given a position,
00:24:35.87\00:24:38.97
you are placed in this authority
00:24:39.01\00:24:42.28
and now because of your gender,
00:24:42.31\00:24:46.51
you are rejected,
00:24:46.55\00:24:48.45
that's something
difficult to deal with,
00:24:48.48\00:24:50.45
but that's when she
has to rely on her faith.
00:24:50.49\00:24:53.05
Yes.
00:24:53.09\00:24:54.42
You know, and rely on
what she has been taught.
00:24:54.46\00:24:57.23
Yeah.
00:24:57.26\00:24:58.59
Because she may not
be able to please men.
00:24:58.63\00:25:00.86
That's right.
00:25:00.90\00:25:02.23
You know, but as long
as she continues to believe
00:25:02.26\00:25:06.37
that she is doing
what God has for her to do,
00:25:06.40\00:25:09.47
that's the most important thing,
00:25:09.50\00:25:10.84
that's the motivation.
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That is motivating
and we as God's people.
00:25:12.27\00:25:15.04
Again she has to recognize
her stress that she was under,
00:25:15.08\00:25:17.98
realize her
boundaries, rely on God
00:25:18.01\00:25:20.98
and also look at
how God was moving her.
00:25:21.02\00:25:24.02
She was still
motivated to do the work of God.
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Yes, and that's
really important.
00:25:26.59\00:25:28.32
You can't allow
yourself to get so down
00:25:28.36\00:25:31.13
that you think that
something is wrong with you.
00:25:31.16\00:25:33.56
Right.
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That's the time that
you really have to believe
00:25:34.96\00:25:36.97
that God is directing your path.
00:25:37.00\00:25:38.73
Did you begin questioning
00:25:38.77\00:25:40.27
and then not
accepting who you are
00:25:40.30\00:25:43.17
and what God is
doing in your life
00:25:43.20\00:25:44.67
and doubting God, the
Bible says in Hebrews 11:1
00:25:44.71\00:25:48.81
"Faith is the
substance of things hope for
00:25:48.84\00:25:51.45
and things, and
evidence of things not seen,"
00:25:51.48\00:25:54.28
but in verse 6, that's
the verse I love the most
00:25:54.32\00:25:57.09
and it says, "God
is a rewarder of them
00:25:57.12\00:26:00.26
that diligently seek him."
00:26:00.29\00:26:02.09
So you have to please God.
00:26:02.12\00:26:03.83
You can't worry
about pleasing men.
00:26:03.86\00:26:06.03
You have to
look at pleasing God.
00:26:06.06\00:26:07.73
But once again, you know,
00:26:07.76\00:26:09.63
this is when you
have to be trained
00:26:09.66\00:26:13.03
to rely on that,
00:26:13.07\00:26:14.94
you have to accept
that through my faith,
00:26:14.97\00:26:17.51
I'm gonna get
through any of the trails,
00:26:17.54\00:26:19.71
the difficulties,
whatever I may be facing
00:26:19.74\00:26:22.88
and then be encouraging
00:26:22.91\00:26:25.21
especially as a
chaplain in the hospital,
00:26:25.25\00:26:27.65
you have to be
encouraging to someone
00:26:27.68\00:26:30.15
that may not want
you in the hospital.
00:26:30.19\00:26:33.25
Well, we want you
to stay encouraged
00:26:33.29\00:26:35.22
and we want you to say motivated
00:26:35.26\00:26:36.99
and know that God is with you.
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I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin.
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And I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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God bless.
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