Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin.
And I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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And welcome to "Making It Work."
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Arthur, what is your favorite
scripture in all the Bible?
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What's your favorite?
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"Trust in the LORD
with all thine heart,
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and lean not unto
thine own understanding."
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Proverbs five and six.
"And in all thy ways..."
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"...acknowledge Him, and
He shall direct thy paths."
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Your path, Proverbs 3:5, 6.
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Yeah.
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Well, that's what
we are gonna talk about
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on Making in Work,
trusting in the Lord.
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Amen.
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Is it difficult for
you to trust in the Lord?
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What do you do when
times get difficult?
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Who do you turn to? We
need to turn to the Lord.
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We need to trust in God
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but sometimes it's
not always that way.
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Well, today on Making It Work,
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we want to welcome
Amos and Candace Walls.
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Welcome to Making It
Work. You're welcome.
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Thank you. How you doing?
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Good. Very well.
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Well, okay, it is so
good to have you here
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and we have known you
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and now we get a
chance to interview you,
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so thank you so much.
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Tonight we want to
talk about making it work.
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How do you make it work
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after you have been
through such devastation?
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Candace and Amos,
tell us your testimony.
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Well, first I'd like to say
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that is also my
favorite scripture too.
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Excellent.
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And the situation that we
went through many years ago
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really brought
that scripture alive
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in our hearts and in our lives.
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I'm the youngest
of a family of six
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and less than 20 years ago
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my family members
started to become ill,
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one right after another.
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Really?
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I had an older sister
who developed breast cancer
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and a few months before
Amos and I were married,
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my sister passed away.
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Now a couple of months
after Amos and I married,
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my father passed away.
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And then a few
months after that,
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in less than a year
I had another sister,
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my older sister passed away
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and then a couple
of years after that,
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my last sibling passed away.
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So within in
less than five years,
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I lost every
living member of my family
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and three of them
died within three years,
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within months of each other.
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Amazing.
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And our mother had passed away
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many, many years
before when I was young,
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when I was in my early 20s.
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But losing so
many family members
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so quickly was an experience
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I could never have imagined.
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You just don't think
that you could ever experience
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any tragedy of
that nature to the point
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where I didn't want to share,
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you know, with
co-workers and friends
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because they
would think, "Oh, no.
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You know, not again.
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Didn't she just lose her sister,
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didn't she just lose her father?
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Didn't she just
lose another sister?"
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And in going
through the experience,
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I felt for my friends.
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Do I have to call
them and tell them,
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you know, someone else in
my family has passed away?
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What was going on?
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Amos, join this time,
here it is before the wedding,
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right after the wedding.
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What was going
through your mind?
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I think I saw the affect
of her father's death the most
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because what
affected her the most.
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And before that I was involved
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with going over
helping him finish,
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well, he was trying
to finish his house.
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He was in a motorized chair,
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so when we went over to visit
I had a chance to know him,
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just to have his relationship
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and try to play with his big dog
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so that I identify with him.
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He was actually the
same birthday as my dad
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so I was like,
there was correlates
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but, we were out of
town I remember the car.
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We were out of town
and her reaction was,
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"Couldn't he
waited till we got back?"
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You know, I was like, "Wow."
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So that's the thing
that's still stuck in my mind
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as far as being
near and being supportive
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and observing her reactions.
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Did you go to counseling?
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Did you think, did
you go to counseling?
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Did you get counseling
during this period of time?
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Well, it's
interesting you would ask that
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because yes, I
went for counseling
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and I hadn't
intended to go to counseling.
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What had occurred is I
had the same family doctor
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and I had lost my
sister and then my dad
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and then after I
lost another sister,
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coincidently I had a
physical examination schedule
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for a couple of
weeks after she died
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and I went to my
appointment and my doctor,
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I had a long term
relationship with him,
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asked me, "How
things were going?"
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And I said, "Well, actually
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I just lost
another family member."
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My older sister died.
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And he stepped
back and he looked at me
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and said, "Didn't you
just lose another sister
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and your father?"
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I said, "Yeah, I did."
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And he said, "It's been
less than two or three years
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with all the loss.
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How are you doing?"
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And we started
to talk and I said,
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"Oh, you know, I'm doing fine.
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And I just have to keep strong
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and have to take care of
things and keep on trucking."
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And he said,
"You know, even though
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you are in good physical health
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and I don't find
anything wrong with you,
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you know, of course got to
get blood work results back."
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He said, "But you
don't have any idea
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how these
things can affect you."
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And he said, "I really
urge you to get some counseling
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and I'm gonna refer you
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so that your
insurance will take care of it."
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And to tell you the truth,
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I didn't think I
needed counseling.
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I was functioning
as a matter of fact,
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it had fallen to me to take care
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of all the
arrangements and the estates
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and all the final affairs
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of every last
one of these people
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and I had not completed
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my father's estate
when my sister died.
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We were still going
through that process
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and I had to call the attorney
and say, "Now, I need you
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to take care of
my sister's estate.
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Let's just do it all
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and when we
finalized dad's estate."
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They will know that
he's now deceased too
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and I was functioning, I
was just, I got to dot this.
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I got to go to work. We had...
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You never took off
of work? Excuse me.
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You kept going? I kept going.
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I took time off for the
funeral whether it be a week
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or, you know, however
much time I needed to take care
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of the
arrangement and then I was...
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Then you went back to work.
To work each and every time.
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And I don't
know, I guess dealing
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with loss affects
people differently.
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You know, we all have
different personalities
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and my way of coping
was to keep on pushing.
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Just deliberately live,
"what do I have to do today?
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What do I think about today?
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What do I have to
take care of today?"
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Because that's how I coped,
you know, with all of this.
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That was the coping
but when you went to work,
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but what
happened when you came in?
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They came home and
you were with your husband
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how did you deal within?
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I just functioned, you know,
actually like nothing happened.
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I had young
children at that time.
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I took care of the
children. I went to games.
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I took them to school.
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I just functioned
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and it wasn't until I
went to see a counselor
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that I realized
that because of my trust
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in the Lord and
because I talk to Him
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and I just knew that He
would help me through this
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and Amos was quite a support
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and my staff were all wonderful,
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you know, the people over
me at work were wonderful.
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My friends were supportive.
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I honestly did not
realize how much stress
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I was under, you
know, dealing with all this
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until I actually
went to see a counselor.
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And when I went
to see the counselor
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and we talked it
through, I had two sessions
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and the counselor told me,
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"You have really
great coping mechanisms
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and you are doing very well
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but I want you to take a
stress management program."
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Is that right?
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And she didn't
prescribed medication
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or anything like that
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because, you know,
by the grace of God
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somehow I didn't fall
into a mental illness.
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As a matter of fact,
after our sister died,
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when we, I had one
sister living still
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when we experienced
the three deaths in a row,
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less than a year
apart from each other,
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and that sister, my
older sister had a complete
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and utter nervous breakdown.
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Really?
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So my, I had to go to court
and get guardianship of her.
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Wow.
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And deal with
her hospitalization
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and take care of her
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and may be that's why I
felt that I couldn't breakdown.
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You just couldn't do it.
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Because I take care of her
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and, you know, I'm
getting a little emotional.
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That's all
right. Because she did.
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She had, she lost
her mind, you know,
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and she was hospitalized
and I dealt with that.
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I went to the hospital,
what three, four times a week?
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Yeah.
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You know, to see about her
and to take care of her home.
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She wasn't married
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and she didn't have any children
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so I took care of her home,
I took care of her affairs,
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I washed her clothes.
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You know, I did all of that
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while still
taking care of my family.
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You know, I can
really relate to you
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because I lost my last brother
and it must have been June
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and it was three of us.
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So at this point
like I'm the only one left
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and that was, it
took a while to adjust
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but you are right, you know,
people deal with it differently
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and I would go to work
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and act like nothing
really was going on, you know.
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Only at moments like
when I would go home,
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I would think about some
situations that will come up
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and remember how
I responded to it
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before when I recall one of
my brother's death, I recall
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and one day I felt
myself reach for the phone
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and I had to realize that
none of them are alive anymore.
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So, you know, I
truly understand.
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And he didn't take any time off.
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He kept moving, kept going.
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He did play a lot more
golf which was good for him.
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He was, you know, still
doing family lives deal,
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you know, with the
Dare to Dream Network,
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still doing that.
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I never saw him
really breakdown,
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even to this day
and then, like I said
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when there was time
for his brother's birthday
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or something came up
and he said to me one day,
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"I'm the last one.
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That's it."
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And he wrote an article
for the Michigan Chronicle
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and we put a picture in
there with he and his brother
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and it did that
really, you know, hit him.
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So, you know, just
going through the process,
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you know, I'm blessed I
still have two siblings.
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I lost Derek many years
ago, you know, 23 years ago
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but it still
seems like yesterday.
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You know, Amos,
are you the only child?
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Tell us about your siblings
or are they any other children?
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Well, I'm the
oldest and when I grew up,
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it was four of us
and so my whole life,
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my dad passed
away several years ago.
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How was that?
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Brothers still small so my
primary care giver for that
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but things worked out.
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We found a place
for us to be safe,
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you know, somewhere else
but I want to say observing him
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as going through
as a distractions
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of taking care of
her family, went away,
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I saw her get closer to Jesus
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and what I saw was I
get more into the word,
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health habits, you
know, eating habits
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became more strict.
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Her understanding of the
word became stronger to a point
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where she was seeing things
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so clearly now she is
able to teach others on that.
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More else I think
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she was a little
bit timid on doing that
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and now she is taking that off.
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She has also become a
church elder here at Oakwood.
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Is that right? Congratulations.
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Yeah, that's really. Oh, yes.
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Preach the word
while so-- All right.
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Okay, so I think I
saw her get promotions
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per se over the past 15 years
and more responsibility on her
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and so I think that she
was able to focus on that
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and I think that
was stressful too,
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becoming more responsible
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and doing the
work of three people.
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And, but she was
able to cope with it
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and handle that
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and now she is retired from that
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and so she has turned
another page from that
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and she has yet to be brief
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let's just say from the job
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but I see her coming to a
different page in her life
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where she can focus
on getting close to God
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and, you know, us as well
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as far as
establishing different routines
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and time together
and planning some trips.
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So those are the things
that we've made adjustments,
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but I'm really
proud and how she has cope
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with all those things.
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I guess I want to say this that,
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I know her sisters, you
know, she was the youngest
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and of course,
sisters being older they can,
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you know, see why you have
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the little
child kind of attitude
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and that's what
they kind of have
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so they were really
close like she was with her dad
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and then just have to
take care of their last days
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and their last,
you know, proceedings.
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It's, she had to
kind of come to groups
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with the way she
swiftly had grown up as a child
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and then as an adult
and then to be without them.
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So I think that even now
she held together I think
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but this, they were so stressed
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and it, still came through
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but she's come
through a stronger,
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she's has had
moral trust in Lord.
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She's developed
that fine tune that
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and she uses that
as her modus operandi.
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I think it is the word for it.
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That is beautiful.
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Candace, I know you
had mentioned earlier
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the realization
that you are the only
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one of your family origin.
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Let's talk about that.
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I think God provides.
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I know without a
doubt that He loves us
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no matter what we
have to go through,
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no matter what
tragedies we have in our lives
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and one thing that
I really appreciate
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and I know God
did this was to bring
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Amos and his
family into my life.
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His brothers are
like my brothers.
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His sister is like my sister.
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His parents
were like my parents.
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And there was so
much support from them
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and from Amos and his
family and I would think,
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"Thank God Lord,
that You have filled
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devoid so beautifully."
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And that's why I
believe in trusting Him
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because He will
take care, He loves us.
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And even though we
hurt and we go through pain
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and these things
occur He is with us,
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and He is there,
right in it with us
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and He so often
surrounds us with the people
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and the circumstances
and He's right on time
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and He knows
where you need to be.
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He knows who
needs to be with you
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and He provided all that for me.
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And it was with great thanks
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and appreciation
after God brought me
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through all those situations
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that I realized
He had been faithful
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and that's the situations
pushed me closer to the Lord
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because as I stated earlier,
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one of my
sisters had lost her mind
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when she and I
were the last two left
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and unfortunately
she never recovered.
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She never
recovered? She never recovered.
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And she also
passed away and I believe
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because, you know,
when your family members die
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and they are all
believers in Christ
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no matter what the circumstances
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you have hope that
you are gonna see them
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and be with them again.
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So I always held on into that
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and I always thought everyday
but for the grace of God,
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I could have lost my
mind but for the grace of God,
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I could have gotten cancer
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when I was in my 40s or
other devastating illnesses.
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One of my sisters died
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from
complications of type 2 diabetes
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which she contracted
at a very, very young age,
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and not one of them made it.
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None of the women in my family
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made it to the
age that I'm at now.
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I've lived
longer than any of them
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and people would say to
me, "Why aren't you afraid?
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You know, you could have
cancer or something like that."
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And I would say,
"No, I'm not afraid
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because one of the things
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that it is
helpful to do sometimes
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through you
lose your loved one."
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You can learn a lot from them,
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from their life and
also from their death,
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and I began to
examine at a very early age
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because they died of illnesses
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what were some of
the habits that we had
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and grew up with
and so that their living
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and their dying
will not be in vain.
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What can I do to
honor their lives
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by learning from their lives?
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And that's a
tremendous statement
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because you have
to hold on to that,
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basically because you
say to yourself, "Here I am.
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I'm still alive and yet
my siblings have passed away.
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What did they do, you
know, or what didn't they do
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so I can improve on that."
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And in a process it's not
just trying to live longer,
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it's trying to
live a quality life
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and a more spiritual life
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where you can get
closer to the Lord
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and you know
that this is a reward
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because He
apparently has something more
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for you to do, you know,
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and you have to say
those things to yourself
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and that's what I do
asking myself as possibly I can.
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I totally agree with that
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and the Lord has been good
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and I have been blessed
and time has healed a lot
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and a wonderful life
and the fullness there of
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and because God had been
so faithful I can look back
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and know that all
things do work for the good.
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Oh, yes.
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For the called of the Lord,
for those who love the Lord
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in the call
according to His purpose.
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Yes.
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And the Lord
has been so faithful
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when you go
through whatever it is,
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whether you are grieving
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because you've lost a loved one
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or there are other
losses or issues or problems
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that we go through in life
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when you are going
through God is with you,
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when come out God
has been with you.
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And you can look
back and really see
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how faithful He was
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and that gives
me a peace and a joy
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and an
appreciation of God's love.
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And that's what it's about.
It's all about God's love.
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Well, we have about a minute
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and we just want to
encourage all of you.
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We want to thank you both,
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Amos and Candace
Walls for being with us.
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Definitely. We love you both.
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And, you know, I believe
that you have to find a source
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whether Amos he plays the organ
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and Candace plays the
violin and she even teaches
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and I'm looking
to join their class.
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Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
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And because this is a
part of healing and growth
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but there's something you
may be going through right now,
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those of you watching right now,
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go to the Lord in
pray, seek the Lord
00:26:15.80\00:26:18.61
and remember to
"Trust in the Lord
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with all thine heart
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and lean not unto
thine own understanding.
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In all thy ways acknowledge him,
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and he will direct thy paths."
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Don't try to figure it out,
don't try to rationalize it.
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Turn to the Lord
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and we know He
will see you through.
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And I want to again I
want to thank you both.
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And, Arthur, may God bless
you. I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin.
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I'm Arthur Nowlin. God bless.
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