Hi, I'm Dr Kim Logan-Nowlin.
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I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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And welcome to "Making It Work."
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Arthur, you know,
I was thinking about
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how important commitment is.
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When you think about commitment
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and during the test
no matter what struggles
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you may have in a marriage,
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what comes to mind
thinking about that?
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Dealing with a lot of
obstacles and still overcoming
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and not letting
those obstacles prevent us
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from attaining our
goal and objective.
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And most importantly not letting
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those obstacles
interfere with us
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as individuals
and as family people.
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I see, well,
you see many couples
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who have
tumultuous relationships,
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adversity, anxiety but
you're dealing with an illness
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and you don't know if your
mate is going to make it or not
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and you say to yourself,
"Lord, do I stay, do I go?"
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Well, our topic
today "I'm Still Here."
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And we want to
welcome two wonderful guests.
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Excellent.
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Doctor and Dr.
Jazlin and Ebenezer.
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Welcome to "Making It Work."
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God bless you. Thank you.
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Yes. Yes.
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It's so God to meet you.
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You know, I've had the pleasure
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of seeing you many times Dr. Eb,
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at our church the City Temple
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Seventh-day
Adventist Church in Detroit
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and not being able to
have a conversation with you
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but now I get a chance.
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Well, we have an opportunity now
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to talk to you and
your beautiful wife.
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Yes.
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And for you to share
your testimony with us.
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So we are gonna just allow you
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to tell us what
has happened to you
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over these last few years
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and what has brought you to
this point today, all right?
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Sure. All right, we're ready.
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Okay.
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For the last 15 odd years
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I've been serving overseas
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mostly as a self
appointed missionary,
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a volunteer missionary
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but I did go to
Jamaica on a paid basis.
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They invited me to be part of
the business department there.
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So I was at
Northern Caribbean College
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from September
2004 to June of 2009.
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So that was a five year period.
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And even the last
time that I was there
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during the last
stretch I came up
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with a sickness
called meningitis
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and all of a
sudden I felt dizzy.
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I just lost momentum,
I couldn't balance myself
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and then I phoned my
wife in Detroit and said,
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"You know, tomorrow
I'm not going to church."
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And she took it very lightly.
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She didn't think it was serious
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and she was going to
have company that weekend.
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So she just put the phone aside
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and didn't bother to
chat with me actually.
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And then I phoned my
niece that was in Canada
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and she happened to be a nurse
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and I told her that I wasn't
going to church on Sabbath
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so she got alarmed.
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She wondered why in the
world I wouldn't go to church,
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because I always go to church.
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Always made it a point to go
to church even if I was sick.
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So she immediately
phoned my son and said,
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"You know, your dad is
not going to church tomorrow,
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there must be
something wrong with him."
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And she told him
what the problem was
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and both of them decided
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that it must be
something like meningitis
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or some sickness of that sort.
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And my son was in
Toronto at that time
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he had come there for a meeting.
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Then he went back to
Vancouver in British Columbia
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and my niece and my son decided
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to immediately fly to Jamaica
to see what the problem was.
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And it's good that they came
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and when they came
there I didn't even know
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they had come there to see me.
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I was totally unconscious.
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I was in the
hospital, they had admitted me
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to the hospital
on the third of June
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and when my son
and my niece came there
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it was around sixth
or the seventh of June
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that they came there.
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And they thought
that it was very serious
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that I actually brought back
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to the United
States for treatment.
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And so they made
arrangements to do that.
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They took me over to the bank
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to see that my
papers were signed
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and that they got some
money and things like that.
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And that's the last
thing I know about Jamaica,
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when they took me to the bank.
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I was in a wheel
chair at that time,
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because I couldn't even walk.
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I couldn't balance myself.
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And I went there to
the bank and after that,
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the next thing I knew
they took me to the car
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and they brought me over
to the airport in Mandeville.
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From Mandeville
all the way to Kingston
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and at that point I
did not know anything.
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Really? I lost consciousness.
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I didn't know
what had happened to me
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and from there
the next thing I knew
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I was being
sent over to Detroit.
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And from the airport in Detroit,
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they rush me to
the intensive care unit
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and I didn't know any of that.
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And I was there in
the intensive care unit
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for a whole week
before I recovered.
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My, my, my.
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And finally I
recovered and then they sent me
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to the Henry Ford
Cottage for therapy.
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And that part I remember
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they just push me
right into the ambulance
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and they took me to get therapy
at the Henry Ford Cottage.
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And while I was there
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I sort of started
getting consciousness
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and they gave me therapy
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and they taught
me how to speak again
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because I had lost all speech.
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I couldn't speak prior to that.
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They asked me to read
little, little sentences
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and things like that
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and then I started
reading a little bit at a time,
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but always
coughing and stammering
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and all that sort of thing.
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It was very
difficult for me to talk.
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I couldn't feed myself
so my wife had to feed me.
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And I couldn't balance at all,
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couldn't walk so I
was in a wheelchair.
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And then they got
me started walking,
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you know with the walker
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and slowly, slowly I recovered
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and they were
wondering how in the world
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I would start
walking or talking at all.
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They thought that
I will be confined
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to the wheelchair
for the rest of my life.
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I wouldn't be able to speak,
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I wouldn't be
able to do anything.
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I will be just
become a vegetable.
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I'd be confined to
the hospital setting
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and slowly when I
regain consciousness
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I would say to my wife,
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you know, these people think
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that I'm going to be
confined to the wheelchair
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but I don't think I will,
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because I believe
in what the Bible says.
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And I often remember
a little text from Psalm
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and I'll read that to you.
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It says here in Psalm 118:17.
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Psalm 118:17 "I shall not die,
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but live, and declare
the works of the Lord."
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Amen.
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I had remembered this
verse for many, many years.
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I first heard
this verse back in 1966
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at Sligo Church
in Washington DC.
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Sligo Church.
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That's where I heard this verse
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and a preacher quoted that verse
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and he said, he had
come to the point of dying
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but he treasured this verse
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because he felt that he had
a certain purpose to live for.
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Yeah.
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Until he has
accomplished that he won't die.
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All right, amen.
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And I remember the verse that
he quoted and I said to myself,
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"I shall not die, but live and
declare the works of the Lord."
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And a Bible character
that I always liked was Moses.
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He had come to
the end of his life
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and in Psalm 90 he says,
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"The lifespan of a
person is threescore and ten,
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and if by reason of
strength another ten,"
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and he's the one
who wrote that Psalm.
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And he was 80
years when he wrote that.
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In that Psalm, he's asking God
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to give him an
extension of his life,
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by repeating the former days.
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The former days
for him were very good,
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the first 40 years
but he made a mistake.
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And I said to
myself, many, many times
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and I've also made
a mistake in my life.
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I haven't lived to
be what I should be,
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so God, if you give me a
repeat of my former days,
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I would commit
myself to do Your work.
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Amen. Amen.
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I kept repeating
that all the time.
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And He stayed with you.
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Dr. Jazlin, let
me ask you when--
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when your husband first took ill
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and your niece and your son,
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they notified you or
you met them at the hospital
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when they came
into Detroit checking,
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you tell us what was
going on at that time with you
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when you realized your
husband was really that sick?
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Well, when he first
phoned me from Jamaica,
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I thought he was teasing
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because he used to have
this kind of giddiness so--
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because of what's the others
meniere's disease you know.
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When he was 40-years-old
he is used to get this
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and he used to
throw up and all that.
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So I thought, you know,
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he has one of those
disease spells, you know.
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So I didn't take it seriously.
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Then he said, okay
I'll talk to you later
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and he hung the phone.
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And then it
started to work in my mind.
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I thought my, he
never used to be that kind,
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he is bit soft today.
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There's something serious then.
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But anyway my
cousins had come from India
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and that day they were going
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and so I was really busy
you know getting them ready
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and helping them to go
Cleveland and I have to--
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I drove them all of that.
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So that was in my mind as well.
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So I didn't take it
seriously at that time.
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I never panic
anytime, I don't know why.
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It doesn't
matter who dies, who--
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whatever happens, it
just doesn't penetrate me.
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So I was very peaceful and
I was the one who told my--
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no, yes, I had
written an email to my son,
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wrote a paragraph
saying dad is sick.
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And I wrote
everything that his pastor
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had told me over the phone.
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So I wrote everything to him
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and then when he
went to Vancouver,
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when he's niece
asked him he said,
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my mom didn't tell me anything,
let me to the internet,
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let me see whether
she has sent me an email.
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Wow.
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So he read that email,
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so immediately he knew
that was this meningitis
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because of the
description I had given him.
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So they
immediately you know flew,
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this was on a Friday
that he came to know.
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So on Saturday morning
they both flew to Jamaica.
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Then when they came back
to Detroit I looked at him
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and his face
was sort of reddish,
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you know it was normal like this
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and I thought and also, you
know, my son had to take him,
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lift him up and put him
in the front seat of the car,
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never like that.
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So, but I told myself so
many people die in the world.
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They're so many catastrophes
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and so many other
things going on in life
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and I'm going to take
it, whatever it might be.
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Whatever it might be. Yeah.
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That's what I had
in mind all the time.
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I never cried at
all. You never cried?
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Never cried, not even a tear.
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How many years
have you been married?
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Forty years, now its 40 years.
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It's 40 years.
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Now when you spoke to your son
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or when you went to the hospital
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to first see your husband
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what was his state when you
first saw him at the hospital?
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He was dazed his
eyes were rolling
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and they had tubes all over.
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And my son woke
him up, shook him,
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you know, and he
didn't respond too well.
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And he really shook it,
really, really, hard you know
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and he didn't respond at all.
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And then-- then he
asked a question, who is this?
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I was standing
next to my son and say,
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do you know who this lady is?
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He said, gave some other name,
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something like, you
know, he didn't recognize.
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He didn't recognize
you. No, no, he didn't.
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And then he asked,
who is your best friend?
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He said, my
best friend is Steven
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and that's
actually his best friend.
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Oh.
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But all you know,
to even think about
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that you know how he
got that kind of memory.
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Then he asked him,
where are you staying?
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Where are you now?
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I'm in seminar to--
00:14:53.37\00:14:56.19
so he's thinking about
all this previous things
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that have happened.
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Oh.
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And so my son shook his head
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and said, you
know, it may not work.
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So I--
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That you-- you
still remaining calm.
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I was very calm. I
was nothing shook me.
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I told myself I said,
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if at all something
happens he will be in heaven.
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I had that assurance.
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You knew that it'd be all right.
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I was assured of that,
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he is a man of God and
he will make it to heaven.
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So I'm not
worried about anything.
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Did you ever say any--
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The statements I was making
apparently didn't make sense.
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When they would
ask me some question
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I would give an answer.
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The answer wasn't necessarily
the answer that they expected
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but I always gave
a sensible answer.
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Gave a sensible answer.
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That's what
they were telling me.
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Give an
example, it was so funny.
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Somebody-- the doctor had asked
me what is troubling you now?
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And I had said to them,
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you are the one
that's troubling me.
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Nothing else is troubling me,
00:16:03.80\00:16:05.23
if you just leave me
alone I'll be all right.
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Oh.
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But that was not
what they wanted.
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That's not what they, no--
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But other would tell me
that now they're telling me
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that these are the
kinds of replies I gave me--
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gave them all the time.
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So I didn't-- I made
sense with what I said,
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but it wasn't the answer
that I was suppose to give.
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Give.
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So I was just talking
but not talking sense.
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And I recall from a
conversation in Canada,
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the CBC, the radio conversation.
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They were interviewing a person
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that was dying of
cancer, terminal cancer.
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And they asked what is
it that makes you tick?
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So she said, a lot
of people are dying
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while they are living,
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but I'm going to
be living while dying.
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And I thought of that
statement many, many times.
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Why should I be
dying while living?
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I'm still living
although I'm not making sense
00:17:03.81\00:17:08.77
but let me still live
and I was determine to live
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all through the time
that I was in that hospital.
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I was there only for
three weeks actually.
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One week in the
intensive care unit
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and two weeks for therapy.
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And after that
I started walking.
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You started
walking? You started walking.
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Yes, and when I
came home on July first,
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I was admitted to the hospital
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on the eighth
of June late night.
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So it was more
like, the ninth of June.
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And from that day right
through till the 30th of June
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and then on the
first I was released
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and I slowly started walking.
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I did not use the walker at
all when I left the hospital.
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You get in, you
went in a wheelchair.
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And then they appointed people
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from the hospital
to come and see me.
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And the very first day
when the lady came she said,
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well, now start
walking and I started walking.
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I was sort of falling here
and there but I started walking.
00:18:07.79\00:18:12.26
And then she told me,
00:18:12.29\00:18:14.21
now I don't think we need
to come and see you anymore.
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It seem likes you-- Amazing.
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Oh. Amazing.
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Honored with the Lord.
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Then after the second
week, they didn't come at all.
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They didn't come at all.
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But I would I walk
only for a short distant
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then I'll hang on to her.
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Because I had to
have to some support
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but I did not use
any other support.
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I just was
determined to keep walking
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because I believe what God says,
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I will not die,
I will keep living.
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And I always believe
that God does not bring you
00:18:45.69\00:18:49.27
to the earth to become a
piece of junk at the end.
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He creates you so that
you will become useful.
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Every human being has
a purpose in the world
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and I felt that
God must have a reason
00:19:01.90\00:19:05.58
for giving me this meningitis.
00:19:05.61\00:19:08.53
All things do
work together for good
00:19:08.56\00:19:11.59
and there's no mistake on that.
00:19:11.62\00:19:14.25
If God has a purpose
for my life and now I'm 73.
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Seventy three.
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And I'm determined
to go and work for Him
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and I plan to go
overseas again to Bangladesh,
00:19:23.37\00:19:27.28
back to Jamaica and
then to Uganda and Kenya.
00:19:27.31\00:19:31.42
Yeah.
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Those are the plans you have?
00:19:32.60\00:19:34.19
And that's the plan that I have
00:19:34.22\00:19:37.02
because God has given me
another chance with my life,
00:19:37.05\00:19:42.85
just like He gave
Moses another chance.
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At the end of 120 years
Moses said, I have now--
00:19:46.30\00:19:52.36
it's written there
that his eyes were not dim
00:19:52.39\00:19:55.18
and his feet were not tired.
00:19:55.21\00:19:57.50
And right now when
you see me walking,
00:19:57.53\00:20:00.30
I walk like a teenager.
00:20:00.33\00:20:01.97
Yes.
00:20:02.00\00:20:03.59
Except for my
hearing, I don't hear too well.
00:20:03.62\00:20:06.93
But other than that no
other part of my body is bad.
00:20:06.96\00:20:11.76
God has totally
healed your body.
00:20:11.79\00:20:14.96
I just keep moving along.
00:20:14.99\00:20:17.36
I can walk like anybody else.
00:20:17.39\00:20:20.11
Talk like anybody else, I don't
stutter or anything like that.
00:20:20.14\00:20:23.03
No, you're not.
Just keep moving along.
00:20:23.06\00:20:27.08
God must have a reason
00:20:27.11\00:20:28.71
for having given
me a second chance.
00:20:28.74\00:20:31.41
A testimony.
Well, that's powerful.
00:20:31.44\00:20:33.68
And I'm going to continue
doing things all the way from--
00:20:33.71\00:20:36.73
and I think it's an
advantage for me right now,
00:20:36.76\00:20:39.32
because at 73 years even
if somebody hijacks a plane
00:20:39.35\00:20:44.81
they will usually
let the senior citizens.
00:20:44.84\00:20:49.89
That' great.
00:20:49.92\00:20:53.90
They usually do.
00:20:53.93\00:20:55.04
That's right the
seniors can get off.
00:20:55.07\00:20:57.20
You can go.
00:20:57.23\00:20:58.26
And I don't hear
and because I don't hear
00:20:58.29\00:21:01.80
I just go over
to the receptionist
00:21:01.83\00:21:04.52
and say look, I don't hear.
00:21:04.55\00:21:06.51
And I can't wear hearing
aids because that won't help me.
00:21:06.54\00:21:10.28
My sickness is such that
I have to just sit closer
00:21:10.31\00:21:15.46
then I listen to people,
00:21:15.49\00:21:16.78
then I can hear what they say.
00:21:16.81\00:21:18.44
So they'll let me
get on the plane earlier.
00:21:18.47\00:21:21.09
And let you get
you on the plane.
00:21:21.12\00:21:22.63
So I take advantage
of the disadvantage.
00:21:22.66\00:21:25.30
We see. You know that's right.
00:21:25.33\00:21:26.79
That's right. I'm
not griping about it.
00:21:26.82\00:21:28.60
You're something else.
00:21:28.63\00:21:29.73
I feel that is a
reason for everything
00:21:29.76\00:21:33.07
that you are going through.
00:21:33.10\00:21:34.84
Now, doctor,
explain the viral the---
00:21:34.87\00:21:39.38
virus that attacked your
body and how it attacked?
00:21:39.41\00:21:43.88
You know, did
they ever find out how
00:21:43.91\00:21:46.97
and where you
contracted meningitis?
00:21:47.00\00:21:49.81
I don't think
they quite did that
00:21:49.84\00:21:52.74
because in Jamaica they
thought I was just sick.
00:21:52.77\00:21:56.30
They were giving me
Tylenol and things like that.
00:21:56.33\00:22:00.04
They weren't
treating me for meningitis.
00:22:00.07\00:22:02.37
Its only when my son
came there that he felt
00:22:02.40\00:22:06.89
that he has to bring me
over to Detroit for treatment.
00:22:06.92\00:22:10.05
And you're son
is a neurosurgeon.
00:22:10.08\00:22:11.15
Yes. Yeah.
00:22:11.18\00:22:12.38
But if I had stayed there
00:22:12.41\00:22:13.97
I would have either
become a permanent vegetable
00:22:14.00\00:22:17.21
or die, died in Jamaica.
00:22:17.24\00:22:19.23
Oh, my, my, my.
You're son acted quickly.
00:22:19.26\00:22:21.27
Yes, and action
was very fast, yes.
00:22:21.30\00:22:25.96
Because I-- when at that--
00:22:25.99\00:22:27.70
from the time I left I didn't
know what was happening to me.
00:22:27.73\00:22:32.47
Right from the
airport here in Detroit
00:22:32.50\00:22:35.46
they rushed me to
the intensive care unit
00:22:35.49\00:22:38.17
and I was there for a
whole week before I recovered.
00:22:38.20\00:22:40.90
That's amazing, amazing.
00:22:40.93\00:22:42.68
So time really was important
and your son recognized that.
00:22:42.71\00:22:46.97
And he recognized. And
knew what he had to do.
00:22:47.00\00:22:48.77
Yes. That was amazing.
00:22:48.80\00:22:49.89
Because he dropped
everything he was doing
00:22:49.92\00:22:51.58
and flew over with
your niece and said,
00:22:51.61\00:22:54.19
we've actually go to there
00:22:54.22\00:22:55.25
and he read your email
that was the Holy Spirit.
00:22:55.28\00:22:57.16
Yes, my niece is
a nurse too see--
00:22:57.19\00:22:59.55
Oh.
00:22:59.58\00:23:01.04
So together they were able
to convince the authorities.
00:23:01.07\00:23:03.55
So released you out of that.
00:23:03.58\00:23:04.83
In Jamaica that I
should be taken out.
00:23:04.86\00:23:07.09
I want to ask a
question to Dr. Eb,
00:23:07.12\00:23:10.16
what is meningitis and
how did it attack your body?
00:23:10.19\00:23:15.10
Well, it affects the
brain and the spinal cord.
00:23:15.13\00:23:19.37
I see. Okay.
00:23:19.40\00:23:21.13
Because I have some children
who are hearing impaired
00:23:21.16\00:23:23.77
and lost the
hearings through meningitis.
00:23:23.80\00:23:25.67
Right.
00:23:25.70\00:23:26.73
And it wasn't
attended too quickly
00:23:26.76\00:23:29.39
and therefore now they
have totally lost their hearing.
00:23:29.42\00:23:32.85
Yeah.
00:23:32.88\00:23:34.38
The question that I have, I
want to go back to something.
00:23:34.41\00:23:38.14
You indicated that you
have a desire to go to Sri Lanka
00:23:38.17\00:23:43.60
and Uganda and back
to Jamaica and Kenya.
00:23:43.63\00:23:49.19
Are you going with him? No.
00:23:49.22\00:23:54.27
I'm on my sabbatical experience,
00:23:54.30\00:23:56.68
so I might start the journey.
00:23:56.71\00:23:58.64
You're gonna start
the journey with him?
00:23:58.67\00:24:00.07
Yeah, for about five months.
00:24:00.10\00:24:01.43
Five months you'll be with him.
00:24:01.46\00:24:02.49
Yeah.
00:24:02.52\00:24:03.55
And then you'll come back? Yeah.
00:24:03.58\00:24:05.29
So those four
years he was in Jamaica,
00:24:05.32\00:24:07.12
you were here in
the United States
00:24:07.15\00:24:08.37
and you will go back and forth.
00:24:08.40\00:24:09.43
Yes, I was in the United States.
00:24:09.46\00:24:10.60
I went to Jamaica eight times.
00:24:10.63\00:24:12.34
Wow. Eight times.
00:24:12.37\00:24:13.57
Saw the whole country.
00:24:13.60\00:24:16.28
She spent six
months there in Jamaica,
00:24:16.31\00:24:18.92
including the
four years I was there.
00:24:18.95\00:24:20.87
During our sabbatical she
came and spent six months there.
00:24:20.90\00:24:25.47
One another question, you guys
been married for 40 years now,
00:24:25.50\00:24:32.18
you know, I guess it
takes a lot of trust and love
00:24:32.21\00:24:38.47
to allow your
husband to be somewhere
00:24:38.50\00:24:42.05
and you be somewhere else?
00:24:42.08\00:24:43.64
Yeah, this was
the problem with GC,
00:24:43.67\00:24:46.59
because he wanted to go through
the GC and they didn't allow.
00:24:46.62\00:24:50.94
So I was wondering
why wouldn't they allow,
00:24:50.97\00:24:53.09
you know, what
was-- what's the problem?
00:24:53.12\00:24:56.43
So I was talking to
one of the pastors--
00:24:56.46\00:25:00.02
someone in Oakwood
Church many years ago
00:25:00.05\00:25:02.70
and he said, you
know you are unique.
00:25:02.73\00:25:06.26
You people, you
both are very unique.
00:25:06.29\00:25:09.23
You trust each other.
00:25:09.26\00:25:10.46
You're not running
around with other people, okay.
00:25:10.49\00:25:13.21
And GC will not know that--
00:25:13.24\00:25:15.61
that you are in
a unique situation.
00:25:15.64\00:25:18.60
To me I fully trust
him and he trusts me too.
00:25:18.63\00:25:23.88
I've been given the freedom
to go wherever I want to do,
00:25:23.91\00:25:30.03
whatever I want,
whenever I want, however I want.
00:25:30.06\00:25:33.35
And like wise, I also allow
him to do whatever he wants.
00:25:33.38\00:25:38.00
I mean, those
are our goals, right.
00:25:38.03\00:25:39.91
We want to accomplish
certain things in our life.
00:25:39.94\00:25:42.73
So because of
that, you know, I don't--
00:25:42.76\00:25:47.31
it doesn't matter to me
where he goes, when he comes.
00:25:47.34\00:25:50.57
Amazing.
00:25:50.60\00:25:51.95
Did you hear that, Kim?
00:25:51.98\00:25:53.02
I don't have a problem. Okay.
00:25:53.05\00:25:54.24
When is your
next golf tour? Soon.
00:25:54.27\00:25:55.82
You know, praise the
God. He's gonna go golfing.
00:25:55.85\00:25:58.93
He have golf courses in Kenya.
00:25:58.96\00:26:01.25
He'll travel with you there.
00:26:01.28\00:26:03.28
Yeah, just let me
know if it's a golf course
00:26:03.31\00:26:05.53
in Uganda or Kenya I
will like to be there.
00:26:05.56\00:26:09.97
You know, I-- I
think it's amazing
00:26:10.00\00:26:12.54
and this why we said,
00:26:12.57\00:26:13.91
you know, the topic of
that program "I'm Still Here"
00:26:13.94\00:26:17.94
because at anytime Dr.
Jazlin could have left.
00:26:17.97\00:26:21.87
She could have
just said no more.
00:26:21.90\00:26:23.52
But no matter what
he had to go through,
00:26:23.55\00:26:26.43
she's stayed
with him and likewise
00:26:26.46\00:26:29.61
I'm still here fighting
for my life I will not die.
00:26:29.64\00:26:33.43
I'm going to
live while I'm dying.
00:26:33.46\00:26:36.68
And God has given me
the promise of salvation.
00:26:36.71\00:26:39.81
So they had that conviction
together to work together
00:26:39.84\00:26:43.98
but I'm gonna
tell you something,
00:26:44.01\00:26:45.94
faith is there without works.
00:26:45.97\00:26:48.39
If your son and
your niece had not acted
00:26:48.42\00:26:51.62
you had not send that email
00:26:51.65\00:26:53.87
and it nearly got you
back to the United States,
00:26:53.90\00:26:56.25
they may have lost you.
00:26:56.28\00:26:57.85
And I think it was a
combination of all of that
00:26:57.88\00:27:01.14
because it started
with the doctor recognizing
00:27:01.17\00:27:06.89
that his body was reacting,
you know, not a normal way.
00:27:06.92\00:27:10.91
Yes.
00:27:10.94\00:27:11.98
And he made a decision to
go and find out what's going on
00:27:12.01\00:27:17.88
and but he had to contact.
00:27:17.91\00:27:19.64
He contacted his wife, his niece
00:27:19.67\00:27:21.81
and if the mail it
just was a domino thing.
00:27:21.84\00:27:24.88
That family started to react,
you know and most importantly
00:27:24.91\00:27:29.82
they reacted in a timely manner.
00:27:29.85\00:27:32.38
A timely manner.
00:27:32.41\00:27:33.44
Well, listen we
want to thank you both.
00:27:33.47\00:27:35.70
I've seen you at
the different churches
00:27:35.73\00:27:37.99
and now I've gotten to
know you personally with Arthur.
00:27:38.02\00:27:40.83
Yes. That's good. That's great.
00:27:40.86\00:27:41.89
And we thank God.
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We're gonna be keeping
up with you, all right.
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We're gonna be checking in
on you and keep us in prayer.
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Well, listen, I'm
Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin.
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I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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And we want to thank doctor and
Dr. Ebenezer for being with us.
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Yes.
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Continue to know
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that God will never
leave you or forsake you.
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He is still with you.
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And He's in a blessing business.
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And He's in the
blessing business
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and He's here to save lives.
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God bless.
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