Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin.
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I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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And we want to
welcome you "Making It Work."
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Arthur? Yes.
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You like my coat of many colors?
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Yes, now let me see. Okay.
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Somebody-- Was it-- Did
you get that from Joseph?
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You mean the Joseph? The Joseph.
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No, dear, he's
been gone for some time.
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I mean, the design
and all that stuff.
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Oh, maybe... And he
had many colors, right?
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Right, but I just wanted--
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The reason why I
brought this out,
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you know, the
coat of many colors
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and you brought up
Joseph because Joseph had to be
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a forgiving person.
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If you recall the
story and some of those
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who don't know the
story about Joseph,
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he was put into a
pit by his brothers
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but his father gave him, Jacob,
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a beautiful coat of many colors.
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Right. And they
were jealous of him.
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Now, not to say Joseph
didn't do some things to
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provoke the
jealousy or the envy,
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but today that brings me
into our topic, all right,
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forgiving through faithfulness.
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Because Joseph, as time went on,
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had to learn to
forgive his brothers,
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when they came before him.
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Took a vow.
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He took a vow but he was
the Pharaoh's chief steward.
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Absolutely. And he
had to make provisions--
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And when they came
in, and can you imagine,
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when he saw his brothers
he was just, he was happy,
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but he at that moment--
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He had to pray.
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He had to pray,
but he remembered
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the God of his father.
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Absolutely.
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And he forgave
them, even down to go
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and get your younger brother.
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And how he went
through all that.
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So, today we're going
to talk about forgiving
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through faithfulness.
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Arthur, have you ever had
to forgive me of something?
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Lord have mercy. Okay--
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Okay, we don't want to,
you know, prolong our program.
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Okay, we won't prolong--
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But you did forgive
through faithfulness.
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I had to forgive because
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if I didn't forgive
you, who else would?
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I mean, besides Jesus. God will.
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But again, I want you to know
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I'm forgiving you
too, all right. Amen.
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I didn't do anything.
You didn't do anything?
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That's what they all will say.
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Well, I'm glad,
Arthur, you have, you know,
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forgiven me because without
forgiveness, our marriage,
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our relationship can't work.
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Yeah. That takes us
into our special guests.
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And, Arthur, what a testimony.
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But I'm not going to tell it,
I'm going to let them tell it.
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I'm so happy. Okay,
because I probably just--
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I don't want to mess it
up. Okay, don't mess it up.
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All right, but I
got to introduce pastor
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and first lady Marshon
and Heavenly Joy Peoples.
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Peoples. God bless you.
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I love that. Thank you.
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You know, as our first
time meeting in person.
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Yes. Yes.
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Well, listen, we want to
get right to it because we want
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you to have all the
time you need to tell this
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beautiful testimony how God
has saved your life, pastor,
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and what happened.
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It's all yours.
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Well, first of all, I
work with a lot of gangs
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in Grand Rapids area,
Grand Rapids, Michigan.
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And I also worked
with the police department,
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as crime prevention organizer.
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And I'd received a lot
of reports that young ladies
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were getting abused in
house parties and being sold
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into prostitution.
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So to circumvent that,
me and some other community
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organizers came
together and said, "Well,
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let's have a safe haven."
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The kids were
having a basket ball game
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at Kentwood High and we
gave them a place to come
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where they can
congregate and have refreshments
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and play their music.
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Well, without alcohol,
drugs and so on and so forth.
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So we set some strict
ground rules for this.
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Amen.
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And at this event right
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when it was
around at 11 o'clock,
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when we were
about to shut it down,
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some young men showed up.
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They was already
breaking the rules,
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they were smelling like
weed and alcohol and, you know,
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I work with gangs, so I
know how to give them their
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respect and talk to them kindly.
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But they really
pressed their way,
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they really wanted to get
in and one thing led to another
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I was end up shot
in the back of my head.
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And that's what happened,
but the story of it is that
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when I was-- I
will just say I died.
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It was total
darkness, I couldn't move,
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could not hear but my conscious
thought was still there.
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And I remember talking
to the Lord and saying,
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"Lord, not like
this. Not like this."
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And then I
questioned it. Is this it?
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Is this my time to go?
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I don't know how
much time had lapsed
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but it's as if God
answered me, He didn't say with
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an audible
voice, but He allowed me
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to hear a lady who was
helping the security out.
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I heard her voice, she
said, "If he will only breathe,
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I know he'll be okay."
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Well, that in my
conscious thought, I said, "Wow,
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my body is not
breathing, it's not breathing."
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I took a deep
breath and God gave me
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that one more breath.
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In this moment you do think of--
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Your whole life does
flash before your eyes.
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And I said, Lord,
but the ministries.
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Like I took a
million and one questions
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and handed it to Him.
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One of the main
questions was my wife.
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What about her?
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And my whole focus
was, let me just see her
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one more time.
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Just let me see
her one more time.
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And the beauty all of
this is that the detectives
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later said that they
found 33 shell casings
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at the premises.
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I had about 150 kids there
and not one of them got hit,
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scratched or harmed.
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Praise God.
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And that's the true testimony
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that out of all
this that not a parent
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is up here wondering, what if.
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We don't have wonder
what if. It didn't happen.
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So God blessed in a mighty way.
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Oh. Sister Peoples, first lady.
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Where were you
when this happened?
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I was at home and I can
remember before he even went,
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we were sitting on the bean bag,
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and we were talking
about it and he was tired,
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he really didn't even
want to go but he knew
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that he had to keep his word.
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He had promised
these kids, you know,
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I was going to be there, I
was going to open the doors
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and he said, "I
can't let them down.
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I got to keep my word."
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And he left, and about
10 o' clock I text him,
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"How are things going?"
Everything was going good.
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And then I got the
phone call from one the boys
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that he mentors.
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He was actually
sitting right next to Marshon
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when he was on the ground
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and he told me to
hurry up and get down there.
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He'd been shot.
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Thank God at that moment
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he didn't tell me he
got shot in the head.
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Oh. Or else I would
have-- I said, was he okay?
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Is he, you know?
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He said, "Yeah, his eyes
are open and he's talking.
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You know, seems like he's okay."
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The ambulance
hadn't gotten there yet.
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I got off the phone,
I felt like I was almost
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in a dream, you know,
like this wasn't happening.
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I actually called 911
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because he
didn't tell me he did.
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And I was like, I need
to make sure they get there.
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So, but I was-- And I--
They told me not to leave,
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when I called
911, they said don't.
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Told you not leave your home?
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Yeah, they said,
don't go, don't go anywhere.
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You know, the
ambulance is already on the way,
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we don't want you getting hurt.
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You know, your driving
and getting in an accident.
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And I was like,
oh my, I can't go?
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I can't leave?
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So I called my mom and I
actually started walking,
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she seemed like she was
taking forever to get there.
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I started walking down
the street waiting for her
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and finally we went
and it was just crazy--
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I couldn't believe it. I just--
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You saw him there?
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Well, as soon as I got there,
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there was police
like down the street,
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so I couldn't even get there.
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Couldn't even get in.
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No, they didn't even
know where he was going,
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which hospital he was going to.
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So they called the
ambulance and then we followed,
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but then we quickly
went to the hospital.
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And he had just gotten there
when we pulled up and so...
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And I got into the
room and he looked up at me,
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you know, and yeah, I just--
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He smiled and yeah,
it was good to see him.
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Yes.
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You know, and it's
nothing but a miracle
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that he's still here.
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Then you went
right into surgery?
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No, we actually
didn't go into surgery
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till the next day.
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That was something
we had to pray about.
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We had to pray about
it, but I notified my mom
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and I notified Pastor Sapp
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and I didn't know
what was going on.
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And the next day
they came and they said
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that the bullet is in
your head and you have
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to make a decision
because there's a piece of air
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that's trapped between
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the bullet and your
brain and if you leave it in,
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that air can corrode and
you can have worse problems.
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But if you have it
removed, there's a slim chance
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you don't make it.
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And I said, can you
give me and my wife a moment?
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And they said, take
all the time you need.
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And I looked at her
and I said, I'm still here.
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So this is a gift and we
might as well go ahead with
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this surgery to remove
it and without even second
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thought, she said okay.
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Oh, my God, chills are
just going down my body.
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Yes. So you had made
the decision to go ahead.
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What made you--
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Because your husband
said without second thought
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you said go ahead.
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What were you thinking?
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You know, I trust the
God in him, so I just--
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We just had
total peace, you know,
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about it and we went with it.
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It was that easy. Excellent.
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Now let's go back
before this incident.
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You know, you are pastor,
what's the name of your church?
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BEYOND Christian
Renaissance Movement.
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We were fellowshipping
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at Lighthouse
Full Life Center Church
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with Pastor Marvin L. Sapp
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and he had just sent me
out to pastor there Tuesday.
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The Friday of
that week I got shot.
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January 6, 2012.
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Yes. My Lord.
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Now as follow up
with the incident,
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and did they find
out who did this thing?
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Yes, they did find out
the gentlemen who involved,
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they are still
looking for two of them
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but two have been incarcerated.
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Well, we actually
went to their sentencing,
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to their hearing
and their sentencing.
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And at the sentencing,
the young man who actually
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did shoot me, he did say
that it wasn't intended for you.
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I wasn't trying to hit you.
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But I let him know, at
that sentencing, I was, like,
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you know, I had
already forgiven him.
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And let him know that regardless
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of what your
reasoning for bringing a gun is,
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I want to help you here
and out with your choices.
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And I talked to
the judge as well to--
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My hope was that
he'd reduce the sentence.
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He got a sentence for 5
to 20 but he has a baby,
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so my hope is that
he'd reduce the sentence
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so that he can spend
time with his family and that
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he's released to me and
then we can continue to work
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with his decision making.
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Wow, and how old
is this young man?
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This young man,
he's 20 years old.
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Twenty years old. Yes, yes.
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I mean, you talk
about forgiveness--
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You're talking about
having this young man
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released to you so
that you can help him.
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Yes. The young man who shot you.
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Yes. Even though
it was not intended.
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Yes. He said it
was not intended.
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He said it was not intended.
But the bullet hit you.
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The bullet hit
me, even in my head.
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So when you look at
the whole picture what God
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is doing, you know, what
God will do to save one soul
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and that young man could be
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that soul for to
you go through this.
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Let me ask, was his family
there when he was sentenced?
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His father and his
mother were at the sentencing,
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and we did get a chance to
talk with them and this was
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what we have to
realize that we always say that
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it's parenting or
you need more programs.
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No, this young man actually
got good grades in school,
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he was one of the stars
on the basket ball team,
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one of the best
on the football team.
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His father said he had
the best of both worlds.
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However, after he got
done doing his homework,
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after got done
with his practices,
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he went out into the
street and did bad things,
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and hung with bad crowd.
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So we have to extend
ourselves further than
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that into a relationship.
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We have to have multiple
people in a person's life
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to continue to guide them
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through this
process called life.
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It's not going to
just take the parents,
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it's going to take the
grandparents, the aunty,
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the uncle, the pastor,
the friend, the mentor.
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Takes a village.
Takes a village. Yes.
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To do this, to
help this one individual
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with his decisions.
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Young ladies as well,
help them with their decisions,
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and not telling what to
do but helping them come
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to their own conclusion.
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You know, is this wise?
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These people who you hang with,
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is this part of your program?
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Is this your goal
that you want to reach?
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Mentoring. Mentorship. Yes.
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Because one choice,
one choice, viewers,
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can destroy your whole life.
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You can choose to be
proactive, to be productive,
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to be positive, you
know, for God to use you,
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and God wants to use us.
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Or you can
choose to go, you know,
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where the enemy wants you
to go because Satan doesn't
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want to do anything
but destroy your life.
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That's right. Kill and destroy.
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That's right. So
let me ask you this.
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Are you back in the pulpit now?
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Yes, I'm back in the pulpit now.
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Oh, I know your
members are happy.
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How long have you
been back in the pulpit?
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It's a couple of months now?
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Couple of
months, we have partnered
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with another church
called Full Life Center Church
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and we're
fellowshipping with them
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to help out
their youth department
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and we just do a lot of
things in the community.
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And that's what
BEYOND is all about,
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it's actually
going about doing good,
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healing all who are
oppressed by the devil
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for God is with us.
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Often times with church people
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we do is we
congregate in a certain building
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or certain
environment and don't come
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outside those four walls.
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But what BEYOND
is, is more than that.
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It's like seeing a
piece of paper on the floor.
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Instead of preaching
about the piece of paper being
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on the floor, why don't you
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just pick the piece of paper up?
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And that's what we all
have to do as saints of God
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is to go out and do the good.
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Don't tell the people
about it, be about it,
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be the example and
then show them how to do it
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instead of saying
what you got to do.
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Yeah. Come follow me.
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This is what I'm
doing, do this with me.
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And we can do it
together and then eventually
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you've reached so many people,
you have to send others out.
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Out. Yes. Go.
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Like go, 'cause we--
Our company is too large.
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Right. You look at these m--
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And I have nothing
against these mega churches.
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Yes. But we need to
start sending people out. Yes.
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To minister,
instead of just being there
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under that one
tutelage and no one is growing,
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and no one is
reaching the masses.
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Let me ask you a question
going back to this young man.
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You made a
statement that you would be
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willing to
assist him, to help him.
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Yes. You know.
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What was the motivation to
come up with that decision?
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Well, I will say
this that, you know,
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growing up that I was faced
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with a lot of
decisions like this,
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I was faced with
three different gangs
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who would always come
at me to get me to join,
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but I was raised in a
church, strong mother.
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Strong mother. Strong mother.
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In Detroit?
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In Ypsilanti. Ypsilanti?
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Yes, and I couldn't
fathom going to my mom
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letting her know that
I'm a part of this gang,
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that I know better.
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So I will fight them.
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And I got all scars
on my body to prove it.
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So what made me do this is
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I see me in a lot
of these young men.
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Now I had a lot
of men in the church
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that I modeled myself after.
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I looked at them and I
always thought the best
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and idolized them
and it's just like,
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I want to dress like
him, I want to treat my wife
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like him, so on and so forth.
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I want to
preach like them. Okay.
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But some young
men, some young ladies,
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they don't always have that.
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So I was like, I had
this, now I have to give back.
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And the young
man, he was just facing
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that same predicament
that he had a decision.
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He just happened
to make the wrong one.
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But God took it, turned
it around and not only am I
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gonna reach him,
I'm reaching all those
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that's listening to this
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and all the
different conferences
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I've done thus far.
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Yes. And reaching
them more than I was.
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So it is a ripple
effect. Oh, most definitely.
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Then, let's go back, when
you woke up after surgery,
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you know, how many
hours were you in surgery?
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How many hours I
was in the surgery?
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One. One hour?
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Oh, we had a
great surgeon in the IU.
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Okay. My mother. Tell her.
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She had to make sure
that she anointed all of the
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surgeons and the nurses
before they came in and then
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one surgeon came in late
and they told him he had to go
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back out to make sure
that my mother anointed him
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and prayed for him.
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Be careful who lay hands on you.
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So each one of the
surgeons accepted the anointing?
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Yes. And the prayer?
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All of them. Oh.
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That's amazing. Yes.
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You all were witnessing.
You were being a witness.
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Made me think
about your knee, babe.
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I know. You know, when we--
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You know, I broke
my knee in Bermuda.
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There on vacation for the
first time in a long time.
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And my husband told me to
come this way and of course
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I wanted to go that way.
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And I end up breaking my
patella and couldn't walk
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and so before I went to
surgery, I said you know,
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I need to anoint,
I need you to pray.
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No, no, you just
asked-- For prayer.
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Asked them, is
everybody here a Christian?
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That's what I asked them. Amen.
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And my husband--
I say, is everybody?
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And he said yes and
the lead surgeon said yes.
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And I said-- Then
I said get my husband
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'cause I'm not
going to do anything
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without my husband there.
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And I might have said please,
please don't take my leg.
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He says, why am I
gonna take you leg?
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I said, will you be
all right? He said, why?
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I have too many shoes.
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That's all I was thinking about.
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I got one terrible
story. You're terrible.
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And Arthur says, well,
just put that woman to sleep.
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I heard him say that.
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When I woke up, I
said, do I still have my leg?
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He says, woman,
look down, look down.
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So amazing. Amen.
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So I know what
it is to step boldly
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before the throne of
grace and ask that question.
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My only concern
about that whole situation
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was they gave you
one of those things
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where you press the
button if you got pain.
00:19:08.62\00:19:09.97
For morphine. I
was mother morphine.
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And he said, take that from her,
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she's gonna get addicted.
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I say, when they
took it, I'm saying, no!
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You know, but I learned
to-- They weaned me off it.
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That's good. Yes,
because they gave me pills.
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And I can't swallow pills.
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And when I was a little girl,
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I choked on an M&M and
I went through therapy.
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Okay. But anyway
that's another story.
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Can we move on? Right, you know.
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But, you know,
that is something.
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So when you woke up
out of surgery for 1 hour,
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what did you say to
yourself, when you woke up?
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When you woke,
you know, in recovery.
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I don't know, I just
laid there in, kind of,
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in disbelief and just in awe.
00:19:49.40\00:19:55.34
But you now have a
different outlook on life.
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You don't look at life in
dollars and cents anymore.
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You don't look at life as far as
00:20:02.34\00:20:04.46
what I'm gonna become.
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You look at life as
this is what life is,
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God put us here for a
purpose. Now I'm gonna do it.
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It's not about the
wealth and the riches,
00:20:13.42\00:20:16.95
prosperity in that sense.
00:20:16.98\00:20:18.82
It's more of
fulfilling the purpose.
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And knowing that God gave
me a purpose is just like,
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okay, now how do I begin
this again, is the question.
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But loved ones
came, young people prayed
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and countless couldn't
get inside because the police
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wouldn't let them know that
I was there at the hospital.
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They didn't know what
kind of retaliation was gonna
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come about.
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But the young people
were, I was told that they met
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at the church.
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I don't know how many,
they say droves of them
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and they prayed for me
and I thank them for that.
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And to this day it
still, it still -- me though.
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This didn't happen too
long ago, January 6, 2012.
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I'll never forget it.
00:21:04.64\00:21:05.83
I know that I had to
continue to tell the story.
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You have to.
00:21:11.11\00:21:12.16
To let them know
that God is a healer,
00:21:12.19\00:21:14.26
that He is still in
the miracle business
00:21:14.29\00:21:16.76
and if you trust
Him and never doubt,
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He'll always bring
you out. Lord have mercy.
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I know when we--
When our nephew--
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We stopped by his home in
Columbus and said, listen,
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we need stories
for our new program
00:21:26.85\00:21:29.94
that we are doing on television.
00:21:29.97\00:21:31.82
But we want riveting stories.
00:21:31.85\00:21:34.22
Our producers, they said stories
00:21:34.25\00:21:36.88
that's going to change lives.
00:21:36.91\00:21:39.13
And so when I got
back home, he emailed me.
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Says I have a friend.
You need to hear his story.
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And then he
said you can find him
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on the social network.
00:21:47.53\00:21:48.73
Yes. And I sought you out.
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Yes, you did. Yes, I did.
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And you responded in love
and we exchanged phone numbers
00:21:52.36\00:21:57.35
and we have been
texting and I thank God
00:21:57.38\00:22:01.33
for your obedience
and your willingness,
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your beautiful wife
and her being by your side.
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Yes. And then let me ask
you, you know, physical therapy,
00:22:07.36\00:22:11.08
you know, where are you
with your physical therapy?
00:22:11.11\00:22:13.24
Are you in physical therapy?
00:22:13.27\00:22:14.38
I'm done with physical therapy.
00:22:14.41\00:22:17.24
They-- I was into physical
therapy for about 2 months
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and I did not
just physical therapy
00:22:19.96\00:22:21.99
but occupational
therapy, sight therapy
00:22:22.02\00:22:25.19
and speech and I had to work on
00:22:25.22\00:22:28.94
memory retention
and comprehension.
00:22:28.97\00:22:32.07
Things were processed a
little slower but this is
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what I want to let you all know
00:22:35.60\00:22:37.85
is that the Word of God is real.
00:22:37.88\00:22:39.68
Because I couldn't read a letter
00:22:39.71\00:22:41.79
without having to
put a piece of paper
00:22:41.82\00:22:44.62
over a sentence and
I had to read it slow.
00:22:44.65\00:22:46.79
But when it came to the
Word of God, it just flowed.
00:22:46.82\00:22:49.96
And I could read
it without problems.
00:22:49.99\00:22:52.47
So that let you know
that the word of God is
00:22:52.50\00:22:53.88
spiritual, it's not just
words on a piece of paper.
00:22:53.91\00:22:56.71
Whereas a letter, I had to
read it over and over again.
00:22:56.74\00:22:59.46
I had to remember
the sentence structure
00:22:59.49\00:23:00.70
before to understand
what the next sentence
00:23:00.73\00:23:02.97
was saying but
with the Word of God,
00:23:03.00\00:23:04.98
it was imparted.
00:23:05.01\00:23:06.69
And if you can understand
it, it flows through you.
00:23:06.72\00:23:09.74
So right now you
don't have any shrapnel
00:23:09.77\00:23:12.72
or anything in your head?
00:23:12.75\00:23:14.37
No, I don't have
anything in my head.
00:23:14.40\00:23:17.13
All I do is suffer from
headaches and dizzy spells.
00:23:17.16\00:23:20.80
I had a real bad episode
this morning but we pressed on.
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And I will not let the
devil get to steal my joy,
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I won't let him get the victory.
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What's the-- Did the
bullet enter the brain at all?
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The bullet hit the
skull, the skull was pushed
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into the brain and it
cut the outer membrane
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and they had to put a
synthetic mesh over it
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and then close my head back up.
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So that it will heal.
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So I'm in the
healing process as we speak.
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So, and she's a part
of the healing process.
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Oh, yes.
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At first had to help
me in and out the shower,
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had to help me get
dressed and it's been a process
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but she didn't complain
and she just continued to fight
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and she would still move
forward in her own ministry.
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You know, she
Christian raps so...
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Christian rap? Yeah.
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Are you serious?
Let's see a little bit.
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Talking about
fulfilling our purpose in life
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because of this
happening, it really helped me
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to push forward with my CD.
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And my album,
it's called Heavenly.
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It's an
inspirational hip hop CD.
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Yeah. It's amazing.
Well, let's hear a little bit.
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We got some time,
just give us a little bit.
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Give us a little bit of that.
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All right, I'll
give you a little bit.
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Living the life of a
wife while even having a kid
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This is your time to
step up no matter what you did
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It's all in the past,
so let go and just live
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You know God forgives
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Condemnation is
a guilty conscience
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If it's not love, it's lust
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Flat chest heavy bust
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In love or a crush I
must say It's all complicated
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Many words formed and
then Stated I'll take it off
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The hook and I'll beat it
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Wow. Amen.
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Oh, first lady. That is amazing.
00:25:04.93\00:25:09.00
Yeah. Yeah, that's great.
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Well, listen, you let us know
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when the CD, you
know, listening--
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The coming out party. Yes.
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It's-- Yes.
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Well, this is what it--
This is the Heavenly CD.
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Look at it. It's
actually out on iTunes.
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Is it? Yes. That's beautiful.
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Thank you. It's beautiful.
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We're gonna be praying for you.
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You know, I want to say
that in the forgiveness process,
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when you, you know,
look at the Word of God,
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who do you relate
to in the Word of God?
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What particular person in this--
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in your own story?
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Well, there's
countless people that you can do
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and I liked yours and--
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But there's countless
places in the Bible where you--
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You can even go
to Ruth and Naomi.
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You can go to, I
mean, Abigail and Nabal.
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You can go with Esther.
00:25:59.95\00:26:01.48
You can go with
David and Goliath.
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Oh, yeah. You know.
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There's so many countless
stories about forgiveness
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and one of the
scriptures that resonates to me
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the most is 1 John 3:16,
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"Hereby perceive
we the love of God,
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that he laid
down his life for us,
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we ought to lay down our
lives for the brotherhood."
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So in that you can't
expect God to forgive you
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if you can't
forgive your brother.
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So we have to forgive.
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We have to love,
because if you don't forgive,
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it will just grow inside
of you and just eat you up.
00:26:30.78\00:26:32.86
Well, I know that the family
of this young man must have
00:26:32.89\00:26:37.44
a tremendous
amount of respect for you.
00:26:37.47\00:26:40.34
Up to the point where
you offered to help this
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young man in spite
of what transpired.
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A lot of people would have
extreme difficulty releasing
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that, you know,
and saying that okay,
00:26:51.07\00:26:53.66
I'm going to forgive
you and even more so,
00:26:53.69\00:26:57.35
I'm willing to
be a mentor to you.
00:26:57.38\00:26:59.91
You know, so you
need to be commended many,
00:26:59.94\00:27:03.10
many times over.
00:27:03.13\00:27:04.21
To God be the glory. Absolutely.
00:27:04.24\00:27:06.06
And He's gonna use you.
Oh, He's already using you.
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He has something
even more for you to do.
00:27:09.65\00:27:12.03
I receive that.
00:27:12.06\00:27:13.16
So, you know, you just continue,
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you and your wife
continue to reach out to these
00:27:15.61\00:27:18.25
young people because right
now we are truly in a crisis.
00:27:18.28\00:27:21.71
Yes. And they need
strong men and women.
00:27:21.74\00:27:24.41
That's willing to
go the whole gamut
00:27:24.44\00:27:27.26
due to reach out
to them unconditional.
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Yes.
00:27:30.70\00:27:32.68
Well, if you have a
need, you have youth ministry,
00:27:32.71\00:27:37.59
something going on in your life.
00:27:37.62\00:27:39.54
Let me tell you
something, you can forgive
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and you can move forward.
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Well, we're just excited.
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We're out of time,
Arthur, but I want to thank
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Pastor Marshon
firstly, Heavenly Joy Peoples.
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Heavenly Peoples.
For being with us.
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Amen. We love you.
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And it's been a joy.
Well, Arthur, I love you.
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And we love you.
Love you too, Kim.
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I'm Dr. Kim
Logan-Nowlin. I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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Continue to be faithful
through forgiving others.
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God bless. God bless.
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