Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin.
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And I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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Welcome to "Making It Work."
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Today on "Making It
Work," we're talking about
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the Making of
Success, Higher Education.
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Arthur, when you
think about all that--
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we both have gone
through to acquire education
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has it been
beneficial to our lives?
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There's no doubt
it's been beneficial.
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What I'm thinking about is,
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you know, when we go
through a process that's it.
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I'm thinking
about a process that
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you have to go
through throughout your life.
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The more that you
invest in that process--
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The more successful you'll be.
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So that commitment--
it takes commitment?
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Fortitude and even when
it gets vary you can't see,
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what's going to happen,
you got to stay with that.
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And it takes motivation.
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It takes a lot of motivation.
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And also what
about peer pressure,
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you know, you
coming from high school
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going to college and
even coming out of college?
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Well, the thing about
peer pressure is consistent,
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whether like you say whether
you are in high school, college
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or wherever,
even though in the--
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in the work force.
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But the way you
deal with peer pressure
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is the most significant thing.
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You have to have
really intestinal fortitude
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to resist some of
the things that occur
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when your friends are
trying to encourage to do
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the things
against your-- you know,
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what you're used to doing.
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Because you want to
keep your eye on the prize,
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we know the
prize is Jesus Christ
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but the prize will also
come as you stay focused.
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I want to share us
something with you Arthur,
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according to recent stats,
statistics graduation rate
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for African-American
females 42 percent.
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Forty two
percent. Forty percent.
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Where is the graduation
rate for African-American males?
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Thirty five. Thirty five.
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But-- but-- but
I have good news.
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We have increased by two percent
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in the last year, all right.
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Well, it increasing
or doing better is good.
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You know, but
it's not good enough.
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But we want to get
to the 100 percent.
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I've seen our young people,
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African-Americans
from your school.
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I'm really
concerned about 35 percent
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for African-American male.
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Most definitely, you
know, now let me say this,
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I want to read a
quote to you, all right.
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William J Edwards,
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"Education is the
source of all and what we have
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and the spring of
all our future joys."
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Yes. William J Edward.
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And then I want to read another
one Charles Hamilton Houston
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"Without
education, without education,
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there is no hope for our people
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and without hope,
our future is lost."
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Excellent, you know,
and I agree 100 percent.
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You know, but that's
something is better than that,
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Hosea 4:6, "My people perish
from the lack of knowledge."
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All right. Okay.
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So I-- I just want to
just give a little history.
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We're gonna be talking
to three young ladies today.
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But first we're
gonna start off with two.
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And we are just excited to
have them both Bria Sanford
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and we also have Regina Gray.
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Welcome to "Making it Work."
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Hi. Hi.
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Did I say the names correctly?
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No. Sanford.
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I say, I did it again.
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Well, listen, well, listening,
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I'm going get it
right throughout the show.
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Listen, I want to welcome
you both to "Making It Work."
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We're talking about you
making it successful out here.
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You just completed
high school, now, Regina,
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you complete high school
at Peterson-Warren Academy?
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Yes. Okay.
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And Bria, where
did you complete?
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Waverly High School.
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Waverly High School.
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Where is that? In
Lansing, Michigan.
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Lansing,
Michigan. Okay, so now...
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Why was finishing high
school so important, Regina?
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Finishing high
school was important to me
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because I have family
members that graduated
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from high school at age 15.
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And they were the topper
of their class graduating.
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So I know with my mom,
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being on my back you
must get A's and B's no C's
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and that she really
worked hard to get to A's,
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to get A's and maybe like one C.
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But if I do get
a C is punishment
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and I know I got
to step my game up.
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Education to me is like
getting me ready for college
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and to head on with my
major and to learn more.
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Just like I'm in college now
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and I'm still
learning information
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when I go to Oakwood University
in Huntsville, Alabama.
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Because you started college
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before hand you're
in a community college.
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And you're
taking how many classes?
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I'm taking two. Two.
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English.
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But said is like
oh, I'm taking two.
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And I love them.
And you love the work?
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I love the work.
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It's like even
though I stay up like
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four o'clock in the morning,
but me writing the papers,
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I have to have one
C on one of my paper
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and that how things appears
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for teaching me
the English skills.
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So you're
getting-- you're getting
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and that's what I do before
I love to go off to school,
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I started at the
community college,
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took some classes and I
came in as an advance freshman
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and it was worth it, all right.
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So you-- you decided
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to take these
classes to better you life
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because we know education
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improves the
quality of our lives
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Okay, now you're going
to be what's your major?
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Social work with
the minor Spanish.
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( speaking in foreign language )
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Stop there.
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I'm so happy for you.
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And I like that.
Actually that been pretty well.
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That you know Brother
Nowlin is a social worker.
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Well, you know, I'm--
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I'm sure that they
may my philosophy in life
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is different
from hers by her being
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at clinical psychologist
leads tend to have a difference
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in understanding
about certain things
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and our method--
methodology in the way
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we deal with
things is different.
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Oh, that's okay,
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but we all are in
this to help people.
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Social work is just outstanding.
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Social work is all right.
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I think we
have-- we have probably
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the opportunity to do more
then a clinical psychology.
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Maybe so, but I'm just happen
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to be able to sever, you know.
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Now let's talk about you Bria,
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what is your
area, what's your major
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and why did you
decide to finish high school?
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Okay, in my area
is communications.
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And the
concentration public relations.
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Okay.
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The reason why I
want to go to college
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is I thought
education is really important.
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It builds your character,
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makes you wiser
the way you talk,
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the way you walk, the
way you handle yourself
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just the education just
for as you and on all aspects.
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So that's why we want it.
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You wanted so it was
always it was never a question,
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you were not like
drop out of high school.
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Oh, no. That was
not even a option.
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Because my-- oh, my mother, no.
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No. Oh, no.
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So what got you to a point
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where you were
interested in communication?
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Last year I'm-- I'm
really good with people
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and I started liking the radio.
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So that was really
that helped me out there
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and yeah, the radio.
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Yeah, and this
year you do something,
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tell them what you did
this summer at camp meeting.
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Again camp meetings
where we meet once a year
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and we have a
spiritual retreat for 10 days.
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So tell them
what happened to you
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at our Lake Region camp meeting
and catch up with Michigan.
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Okay, so I was
working, I was volunteering
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at for the children's
ministry to work for 10 days
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and I was like,
okay, I saw the radio,
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and I was look like
I want to be in the--
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I want to be the
DJ, I just wanted to do.
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So somebody told me
that they had opening spot
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and I just volunteered to
like come in maybe for a show,
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and then Mr. Young he asked me,
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just to do one show, I
was like, yeah, thank you.
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They are great
Ray and Debbi Young,
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they see and they see
great potential in people,
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and give them opportunity.
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They offered us a
program many years ago.
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And it's been a blessing,
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I thank God for that
on Quiet Moment Radio.
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So go ahead.
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You know,
communication is so vast,
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I know you said that
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you are more
interested in radio why not TV?
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I think radio, it
gives you more personal.
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Okay.
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I think it's more personally
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and TV I'm really
that's not my thing.
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All right, and it is
good that you already know
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what you want and then
you put it before the Lord.
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Are you both Christians?
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Oh, yes.
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Oh, you say that
with such enthusiasm.
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All right, you
love the Lord? Amen.
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I mean, you're young and you--
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and you're
still going to church.
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You're still
involved with the church?
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Yes. Okay, why?
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Well, when even playing,
even my high school years
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and my growing up I've
learned just to trust God,
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because like the situations,
I had rough situations
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and I learned to just trust
God throughout my situations.
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Yes. All right.
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Well, for me I think
I'm just being involved
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in church is very important.
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I think it's very important
because we need to, you know,
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when you go to
church on a daily when you--
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you have a big
relationship with God.
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And it is a big-- it's helpful
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when you're in a
situation, you know.
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Not even if you
are in a situation,
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if you just want to have a
conversation with the Lord.
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All right. It just helps us.
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So what are some of
things you've done in church?
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I know, the choir,
you know usher, what--
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what aspects that
you serve the church?
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I was in a usher team,
I'm in the praise team.
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I'm, I'm PA which
is a Public Affairs.
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All right.
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I'm, yes, and I'm in
the choir, I'm assistant.
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That's nice. And
I'm clerk assistant.
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And a clerk
assistant. So you're busy?
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You-- you kind of
busy in church as well,
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you know, from what I know.
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Yes. What you do?
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I'm in a sign language group
called "God's Hands of Praise."
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That's a wonderful tagline.
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Seem like I've
heard it that before.
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God's Hands of Praise.
With Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin.
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Wonderful choir,
who is the director?
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Kim Logan-Nowlin.
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Okay, I think I know her.
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Yeah, you could ride along.
You know, what else do you do?
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Well, I helped
on the praise team
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just recently during communion.
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I saw that.
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And I sing at SJYC,
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Spirit of Joy Youth
Choir part of City Temple
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and I'm also well,
I say I was a usher
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when I was seven
or eight-years-old
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and I was also a pathfinder
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and I was
alleged too many things.
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So you had to give
up some other things?
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Yes.
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Let me-- let me
ask some of the--
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when you're in
school and you said that,
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you came from a family
of high achievers you know,
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what about it when
you have friends that
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may be struggling in
school and having difficulties,
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do you have a volunteer your
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some of your time
to assist them or what?
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I help some of my friends,
like one of my friends have
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I show what their homework.
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They know to call
my phone saying that,
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oh, would you lend
some real good knows
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maybe she can help me
understand this concept better.
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So what I do is help
my friend with homework,
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what they have
situations at home
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then know to call my
phone and I will pray with them
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and bring them
out that situation.
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Okay, so you know,
you're doing social work now.
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Yes. With your friends.
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That's good. We
have about three minutes.
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I mean, it's just
so much I want to know
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but how did you all come to meet
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and now I understand
you are gonna be roommates
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at Oakwood
University, Huntsville, Alabama.
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Real quickly, tells how
did you meet and come to base?
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You go ahead.
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Okay, I'm gonna
cut the story short.
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We met at BETA personally I was,
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I was in the hall
before the worship started
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just on my cell phone
I'm talking to my dad,
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and then Bria comes
up and hi, I'm Bria and--
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She just walks up
to you out of the blue?
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Yes. And you met BETA?
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Okay. So tell them what BETA is?
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What is BETA stand for again?
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I was the Black
Conference for African-American.
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Right. It was
the one in Florida?
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Yes. Orlando, Florida?
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Okay, so you met there
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and you-- did you know Regina?
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I knew her around, we
were in the same conference.
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Okay. We are in
the same conference.
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So you got to see
her before? Oh, Yeah.
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You knew her so you kind
of checking out to see about,
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if she would be
like a good roommate?
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Oh, no, we just, hey,
hi, how are you doing?
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Hey, hi, how are you doing?
You just introduced yourself.
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Okay, and then
you became friends
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and then who asked,
hey let's be roommates?
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Who brought that up?
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We kind of
brought it up together.
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Yeah.
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That's when I decided
oh, I'm going Oakwood now.
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I convinced her
to go to Oakwood.
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Okay. Well, I'm excited.
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My next question,
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but I know way
we're-- the time is limited.
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Okay, so you're
going to Oakwood.
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They're going to at be attending
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Oakwood University
in Huntsville, Alabama
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which is a Seventh-day Adventist
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historical black college.
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And I attended there.
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I can speak for it,
it's a wonderful school,
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you're gonna
have a wonderful time.
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Now you're going
to earn your degrees
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and real quickly where you
see yourself in four years?
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Where do you see yourself?
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I see myself as a
veteran social worker counselor
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and I'm also going back
to school to get my masters.
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Excellent.
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I'll stick to get my masters.
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All the way. All the way.
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That is wonderful.
Well, never loose sight.
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I want to thank you
both for being here with us.
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When we return we're going
to talk about the transition
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from college moving on
to the real world a job.
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We'll be right back
from with "Making It Work."
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Welcome back to
"Making It Work."
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I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin.
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I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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And we have another
special guest for you,
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Miss. Bianca Gilbert.
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We want to welcome
you to "Making It Work."
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Thank you for being
here. Thank you for having me.
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Yes. Oh, my little Bianca.
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Graduate out of the social
working department, right?
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Yeah. That's right.
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How you decide to
be a social worker?
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I have a passion for
helping others people.
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Okay.
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It's always been
that way for you?
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Always.
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I was talking you heard
the statistics that 36--
00:13:47.58\00:13:50.76
46 percent black
females finish college.
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Why was that so
important for you?
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I don't want to
be a part of that.
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I wanted to-- I
always wanted to be better
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and graduate
because I know family mam--
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some of my family members
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they never had the opportunity
to go to college and--
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Are you the first
collage graduate in your family?
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Yes. Really?
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Congratulations. Thank you.
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So you say, you've
always felt that way,
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you felt motivated
to do that, you know.
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To graduate.
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So what made you--
I know you said that
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you enjoy
helping people, you know,
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but what really steer to
you to that particular school?
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Social works?
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Actually, I didn't really
know much about social work.
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One of my-- I was
major in biology premed
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and one of my
friends mention it to me,
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and said, you
are gonna fit for it.
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So I took a few classes for it
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and it changed
my life, I love it.
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You were all the way
down to Southern University.
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In Tennessee and you
completed your education.
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Now, where is Bianca headed now?
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To Korea, South
Korea. South Korea?
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What will you be doing
over there in South Korea?
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To teach English.
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Okay. That
should be interesting.
00:15:05.19\00:15:07.39
I'm excited. And should be.
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So in a process
you'll be learning Korean?
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Yes. Okay.
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And I have a
translator in the room with me--
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Okay. So that'll be a big help.
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Do you know what
grades you'll teaching?
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No. Okay.
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It vary some.
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It will be probably
English for everybody.
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Okay. Yeah.
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Why Korea? Why Korea?
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I just wanted to--
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I always want to do mission work
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but Korea one of my
cousins is in Korea right now.
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He has telling me how
wonderful it is there so.
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Just decided to go
there it's really you know--
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Do you know what
city that you be in?
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Seoul, South Korea.
Now you be in Seoul.
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That's the
capital to it. Excellent.
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Well, I have to mention that
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Bianca also
served many, many years.
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She was our first baby
in God's Hands of Praise,
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she was five-years-old.
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I will never forget we were
in Bermuda the Island Bermuda
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and Bianca came
out really before that
00:15:56.51\00:15:58.38
when she came out on
stage at a concert hall
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and someone was like,
00:16:00.62\00:16:01.84
what is this
little baby going to do?
00:16:01.87\00:16:03.19
And she-- people were in tears,
00:16:03.22\00:16:05.55
people stick to their feet
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and she did the
entire solo by herself
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on this stage five years of age.
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And then we went to Bermuda.
You remember that, Bianca?
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Yes, I've nerve forget.
00:16:14.03\00:16:15.86
You were just our
joy. Everyone spoiled you.
00:16:15.89\00:16:18.78
You know, it was
great to be in Bermuda.
00:16:18.81\00:16:20.35
Except for when Kim had
that accident in swimming pool.
00:16:20.38\00:16:25.00
Well, I don't
think Bianca was there.
00:16:25.03\00:16:26.58
But anyway God worked it
out and got me through that.
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She wasn't?
00:16:29.63\00:16:30.71
No, she was with her mom.
00:16:30.74\00:16:31.87
She is five-years-old, remember?
00:16:31.90\00:16:33.49
Bianca was only five
and so she was with her mom.
00:16:33.52\00:16:36.21
But when you
talk about education
00:16:36.24\00:16:38.23
and your focus,
ever since I've known
00:16:38.26\00:16:40.49
you as a child
you've been focused.
00:16:40.52\00:16:42.63
Where does that come from?
00:16:42.66\00:16:45.05
God and my parents.
00:16:45.08\00:16:47.38
Yes, oh, let's talk about God
and what God fits in your life?
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I don't know, He's
like my best friend.
00:16:52.57\00:16:54.57
I talk to Him
each and every day.
00:16:54.60\00:16:55.98
I depend on Him
for everything, so--
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Did you see something else
with baby Bianca in prison,
00:16:59.99\00:17:03.71
on drugs,
dropping out of school,
00:17:03.74\00:17:06.36
you know, having
children and were children
00:17:06.39\00:17:09.73
but you stayed focus, you know
00:17:09.76\00:17:12.23
because you want
something better for your life.
00:17:12.26\00:17:14.68
You know, what do
you say to someone
00:17:14.71\00:17:16.20
who is in a struggle right now?
00:17:16.23\00:17:18.01
Whether I shall go to
college, should I wait and work?
00:17:18.04\00:17:21.07
What would you say
to a young person today?
00:17:21.10\00:17:23.67
Go to college, do it now
00:17:23.70\00:17:25.51
because if you
continue to wait you might
00:17:25.54\00:17:27.72
you know change your
mind\ or you never know
00:17:27.75\00:17:30.25
what life brings, so just took--
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And you had some struggles,
00:17:33.18\00:17:34.30
you had struggles getting
through college with tuition
00:17:34.33\00:17:37.62
and but God always
made a way for you.
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He really did.
00:17:39.51\00:17:40.58
You have many
testimonies about that.
00:17:40.61\00:17:42.96
Oh, yes I do.
00:17:42.99\00:17:44.14
You know and--
and but you continue
00:17:44.17\00:17:45.49
to give your mom the glory.
00:17:45.52\00:17:47.08
Well, did you date in college?
00:17:47.11\00:17:48.90
I did my--
00:17:48.93\00:17:50.58
You dated, Bianca? I did.
00:17:50.61\00:17:52.10
Please, take
that word back, okay.
00:17:52.13\00:17:54.20
It was little
short relationship.
00:17:54.23\00:17:55.70
Okay.
00:17:55.73\00:17:57.19
It was my
freshman in sophomore year.
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Did you remember
celibate, if I can ask you that?
00:17:59.21\00:18:01.26
Yes, I have.
00:18:01.29\00:18:02.35
All right, I
believe in being transparent
00:18:02.38\00:18:03.97
because you can't help people,
if you're not transparent.
00:18:04.00\00:18:06.39
And why is being celibate
00:18:06.42\00:18:07.47
so important
for you at your age?
00:18:07.50\00:18:10.19
Well, its-- I'm not--
I'm not ready to have a kid
00:18:10.22\00:18:13.97
but I see a lot of my
friends who are having babies
00:18:14.00\00:18:16.91
and I'm just--
I'm just not ready.
00:18:16.94\00:18:19.78
You're just not ready
for that. Yeah, I'm not.
00:18:19.81\00:18:21.49
Or even intimate
sexual relationship?
00:18:21.52\00:18:23.80
Not yet.
00:18:23.83\00:18:25.03
That's a lot of lot of
responsibility, isn't it?
00:18:25.06\00:18:26.45
It is. It is.
00:18:26.48\00:18:27.53
You know so
education is important to you.
00:18:27.56\00:18:29.84
So what-- how does
Bianca get her me time, me time?
00:18:29.87\00:18:33.78
I don't have
much me time for a day
00:18:33.81\00:18:36.47
but when I do, I do spend a time
00:18:36.50\00:18:38.34
with my family or do
things with my friends.
00:18:38.37\00:18:41.94
That's what important
to you of your family.
00:18:41.97\00:18:43.58
Yes, most definitely.
00:18:43.61\00:18:45.20
Now let me ask
you served the church
00:18:45.23\00:18:46.73
like God's Hands of Praise
but you were in the youth choir
00:18:46.76\00:18:50.50
and you-- other aspects of
the church that you served?
00:18:50.53\00:18:54.05
Well, at City
Temple I was usher,
00:18:54.08\00:18:55.91
youth choir,
God's Hands of Praise.
00:18:55.94\00:18:58.82
I did some work
for the Soup Kitchen.
00:18:58.85\00:19:01.72
There in that school I was
a little active not really.
00:19:01.75\00:19:05.44
Now you-- do you
believe that the church
00:19:05.47\00:19:06.89
prepares young people
for the work of the Lord?
00:19:06.92\00:19:08.87
Yes. Okay.
00:19:08.90\00:19:10.41
Yes, I do believe that. Okay.
00:19:10.44\00:19:13.36
Well, some of the
things that I want to allow--
00:19:13.39\00:19:18.30
I want God to do for you
is just don't tie His hands.
00:19:18.33\00:19:23.28
Be open to learn. Be
wise, pray for wisdom.
00:19:23.31\00:19:26.38
I will.
00:19:26.41\00:19:28.28
Please, you
know when you travel,
00:19:28.31\00:19:30.47
already know your mom and dad
is gonna give you the speech.
00:19:30.50\00:19:32.80
Be with a group, all
right. I know you will.
00:19:32.83\00:19:36.16
Do you have any apprehensions
00:19:36.19\00:19:37.73
or you know things
about going to Korea?
00:19:37.76\00:19:40.51
I am a little nervous
because I don't really know
00:19:40.54\00:19:42.43
what to expect
but I'm just excited
00:19:42.46\00:19:45.97
to give my life started,
00:19:46.00\00:19:47.72
just starting
something to do what I can.
00:19:47.75\00:19:50.82
I would have never
thought my shy little, Bianca.
00:19:50.85\00:19:54.25
You just never
know. You're still shy.
00:19:54.28\00:19:57.00
You know would be able to
do, God is a wonderful God.
00:19:57.03\00:20:00.78
You know, has anyone else
00:20:00.81\00:20:02.01
from your school going to Korea?
00:20:02.04\00:20:03.83
Yes, I'm actually
now all my best friends.
00:20:03.86\00:20:05.36
Wow.
00:20:05.39\00:20:06.44
So yes, we're going together
00:20:06.47\00:20:08.04
and then I have a cousin
there so I won't be by myself.
00:20:08.07\00:20:11.59
That's gonna be blessing.
00:20:11.62\00:20:13.02
You know, have you been studying
00:20:13.05\00:20:14.10
and researching the food
about the food over there?
00:20:14.13\00:20:16.73
I heard a lot of
things about the--
00:20:16.76\00:20:18.45
kind of might
become a vegetarian
00:20:18.48\00:20:20.90
you know, once I go to Korea.
00:20:20.93\00:20:22.02
Okay. But yeah--
00:20:22.05\00:20:25.74
We researched a little.
00:20:25.77\00:20:26.80
I'm still trying to learn Korean
00:20:26.83\00:20:28.22
its very, very difficult.
00:20:28.25\00:20:30.23
Okay, do you plan
on staying in Korea
00:20:30.26\00:20:33.22
or when you come back home
00:20:33.25\00:20:34.64
do you plan to earn
your master's degree?
00:20:34.67\00:20:36.41
Yes. Why is that important?
00:20:36.44\00:20:38.74
I just, I want to
00:20:38.77\00:20:41.21
because first of
all for social work
00:20:41.24\00:20:43.55
you can't really get a good job
with just a bachelor's degree.
00:20:43.58\00:20:48.11
So I want to
continue to get my masters
00:20:48.14\00:20:50.47
and but maybe get my
degree in occupational therapy.
00:20:50.50\00:20:54.10
Oh, okay.
00:20:54.13\00:20:55.23
But that's still
upon the carriages
00:20:55.26\00:20:56.95
and another thought.
00:20:56.98\00:20:58.60
Okay, occupational therapy.
00:20:58.63\00:21:00.78
Well, you know-- I know,
00:21:00.81\00:21:03.12
whether Nowlin has his
license of social work.
00:21:03.15\00:21:05.90
So you have, you're gonna have
some mentors here to help you.
00:21:05.93\00:21:08.45
And it's gonna be a blessing.
00:21:08.48\00:21:09.61
You even have a place to
come and mentor that clinic.
00:21:09.64\00:21:12.15
You can come, he would love
to put you to work, all right
00:21:12.18\00:21:15.40
because you know he
loves the God cause, all right.
00:21:15.43\00:21:17.71
He will be a excellent mentor
00:21:17.74\00:21:20.05
and a place for you
to do your internship.
00:21:20.08\00:21:23.27
I've seen great things
happen in people's lives
00:21:23.30\00:21:25.81
because in the
field of social work.
00:21:25.84\00:21:28.47
It would probably
really interesting if you,
00:21:28.50\00:21:31.79
when you make your decision
00:21:31.82\00:21:33.08
on what particular
area of social work
00:21:33.11\00:21:35.64
people want to work
in, you know, so you know,
00:21:35.67\00:21:37.89
you like working with
people so that's gonna be
00:21:37.92\00:21:40.09
something working with
children, people, families.
00:21:40.12\00:21:43.04
So you know enjoy
your-- your mission out
00:21:43.07\00:21:46.73
in Korea in teaching English
00:21:46.76\00:21:48.76
and coming back
and speak in Korean.
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That's gonna be
great. We'll see.
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You are single.
You're not married.
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No children,
girl, enjoy your life.
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Not to say being
married and having chosen
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it's wonderful when
you're ready for it.
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You know, but taking your life
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and looking at
your life just say,
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I can do something different.
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I can take a risk
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and Brother
Nowlin always says what?
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Take a risk. Take a risk.
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You don't know
what God has for you.
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But God is a God of greatness
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and so therefore you
know there are things that
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He can do over and
abundantly for you.
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And that He has for you.
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And I believe Bianca that
He has someone there special
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for you to witness
to about Jesus Christ.
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Oh, yes, He most definitely
have I believe that too.
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Okay. Well, listen, any closing
remarks to young people today
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who are in a
struggle about education?
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We got get about a minute or so,
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you know what can you say?
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You know, we got
about five minutes.
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What do you say to
young people today?
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You know they're thinking
about going the wrong way.
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Get them back on
track Bianca, get them back.
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Keep God first, just
once you finish high school
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continue on if that you know,
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if that's what you want to
do but definitely continue on.
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Education is very important
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and it will get you far in life.
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Do you talk to your
sister much about education
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or your brother you know?
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Yeah, talk to both of them.
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She's actually, she
was graduated valedictorian
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and my brother just
graduated from high school.
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So he didn't fall into
that. He's finished high school.
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Yeah, he's is finished.
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Did you talk to him
about one particular school
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he's interested in going to?
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No, I think
he's still undecided.
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Okay, and you
have a older brother.
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Yes. So there's four of you.
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You know, and so that's--
that's a tremendous achievement
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and now your mother and father.
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Your whole family
they're proud of you.
00:23:37.84\00:23:39.67
You know, what do you remember
when you saw a Brother Nowlin
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and I you will come to
our home you will be with us
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and we will talk about a
mentorship program education.
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And you knew we had education.
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You know and we would
always try to encourage.
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I just prayed and
give Nowlin honor to God
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that there was
something we did, something
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we said that encouraged
you to go all the way also.
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I like to believe that--
00:24:04.39\00:24:06.09
You know and to
push our choir members
00:24:06.12\00:24:08.49
and I was
stressed that your homework
00:24:08.52\00:24:12.00
and you were kind of
grace, you making me to
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you are not on that on a
roll or something is going--
00:24:13.41\00:24:16.31
you can't be in
God's Hands of Praise
00:24:16.34\00:24:17.73
because how you're
gonna come to rehearse
00:24:17.76\00:24:19.65
and you didn't do
well in this class.
00:24:19.68\00:24:21.94
So I like to believe that.
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I think she always
demonstrated a calm character.
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You always was they
are you paid attention,
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you know, you were involved.
00:24:30.12\00:24:31.34
So I mean those
same attributes that
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you demonstrated as a youth
00:24:34.11\00:24:36.14
you want to take it to Korea
00:24:36.17\00:24:38.35
and also pass it
on to somebody else.
00:24:38.38\00:24:40.12
So you know I know that you
would definitely be successful.
00:24:40.15\00:24:43.25
Thank you. You
will be very successful.
00:24:43.28\00:24:45.60
Bianca, I'm gonna miss you.
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For this year we
have the technology
00:24:47.32\00:24:50.22
and we have things
to communicate with
00:24:50.25\00:24:53.15
and also I want to get
back to writing letters.
00:24:53.18\00:24:57.49
You know the
internet has made us
00:24:57.52\00:24:58.82
so easy for us to
just become so lat
00:24:58.85\00:25:02.74
what to send you a care package,
00:25:02.77\00:25:05.20
you know what's
your favorite cookies?
00:25:05.23\00:25:07.53
Oatmeal Raisin Walnut.
00:25:07.56\00:25:09.39
Oh, mine too, oatmeal raisin.
00:25:09.42\00:25:11.69
And we're going to
send you some care pack
00:25:11.72\00:25:13.56
that you know that we
here at home we miss you,
00:25:13.59\00:25:16.20
we love you, we're
thinking about you.
00:25:16.23\00:25:18.08
Thank you. I want to say to--
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First of all thank you
Bianca, for being with us.
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Our prayers go
with you, you know
00:25:22.65\00:25:24.35
and we thank God for you.
00:25:24.38\00:25:25.76
Any closing remarks, Arthur?
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I'm just
encouraged, I'm encouraged that
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you should continue to
demonstrate the character
00:25:29.44\00:25:33.10
that you've always demonstrated.
00:25:33.13\00:25:34.94
I'm encouraged
about the fact that
00:25:34.97\00:25:36.30
you said that you
enjoy helping people.
00:25:36.33\00:25:38.97
That's really significant
00:25:39.00\00:25:40.16
because we're
dealing with a time
00:25:40.19\00:25:41.81
now where helping people
00:25:41.84\00:25:43.26
is going to be really essential.
00:25:43.29\00:25:45.28
Also this is
your time, you know,
00:25:45.31\00:25:48.33
you're at a point in
your life where you can choose
00:25:48.36\00:25:50.98
and have the opportunity
to make good sound decisions.
00:25:51.01\00:25:54.23
And that's been demonstrated
and your application in college
00:25:54.26\00:25:59.89
you know, to the things
that you've done over the years
00:25:59.92\00:26:03.73
the different participating
in God's Hands of Praise.
00:26:03.76\00:26:06.84
So I know that you're gonna
have a very successful life.
00:26:06.87\00:26:10.02
Oh, thank you,
I appreciate that.
00:26:10.05\00:26:11.86
You know, I just want to go back
00:26:11.89\00:26:13.70
and it'll be a couple of points.
00:26:13.73\00:26:17.30
Keeping God first, your Bible,
00:26:17.33\00:26:22.09
stand on His word don't deviate.
00:26:22.12\00:26:25.59
If you lack wisdom ask for God
00:26:25.62\00:26:28.68
and allow people
to see God in you.
00:26:28.71\00:26:31.25
And the lives that you touch
you will see those same people
00:26:31.28\00:26:33.69
when Jesus comes again.
00:26:33.72\00:26:35.69
We're living in
prayer-less times, Bianca.
00:26:35.72\00:26:37.63
We're living in dangerous times.
00:26:37.66\00:26:39.70
And the enemy wants
to-- he's out to kill,
00:26:39.73\00:26:42.15
steal and
destroy but God is able.
00:26:42.18\00:26:44.33
He is protecting.
00:26:44.36\00:26:45.43
You know, the Bible
says in Psalms 91:11,
00:26:45.46\00:26:47.80
I give my angels charge
00:26:47.83\00:26:49.95
over you to protect
you wherever you go.
00:26:49.98\00:26:52.72
So we touch and agree in that.
Can we touch and agree in that?
00:26:52.75\00:26:55.60
Yes, yes I agree.
00:26:55.63\00:26:56.70
All right, listen,
no matter where you are
00:26:56.73\00:26:59.11
in our own station of life
00:26:59.14\00:27:00.77
it's never too late
to go back to school,
00:27:00.80\00:27:02.89
it's never too
late to begin school
00:27:02.92\00:27:05.31
and to look at your career.
00:27:05.34\00:27:06.39
Start a business
enhance your life
00:27:06.42\00:27:08.63
but don't just sit there.
00:27:08.66\00:27:10.45
Get up and just get motivated
00:27:10.48\00:27:12.94
and like my
husband says take a risk,
00:27:12.97\00:27:15.49
try something different,
do something different.
00:27:15.52\00:27:18.02
Get involved in your community.
00:27:18.05\00:27:19.94
Get involved going to
visit the nursing homes.
00:27:19.97\00:27:23.04
You know getting
involved in other programs
00:27:23.07\00:27:25.20
but as Bianca said the platform
as I mentioned the church.
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Getting involved and
developing those skills
00:27:29.89\00:27:32.82
will help you enhance you
personally and professionally.
00:27:32.85\00:27:36.11
And I think another thing
to add to that is the fact that
00:27:36.14\00:27:38.89
you need to expect success.
00:27:38.92\00:27:41.07
Oh.
00:27:41.10\00:27:42.15
You know and
that's really important.
00:27:42.18\00:27:43.95
Never look at that if
you get knocked down that
00:27:43.98\00:27:47.78
you're gonna stay down,
00:27:47.81\00:27:49.27
you know, keep moving
forward and expect success.
00:27:49.30\00:27:52.30
That's right, you may fall down
00:27:52.33\00:27:54.35
but you got the
Word get back up.
00:27:54.38\00:27:57.26
So we want all of us
00:27:57.29\00:27:58.59
to constantly continue to start,
00:27:58.62\00:28:00.38
again I'm
motivated, you've motivated me,
00:28:00.41\00:28:03.83
what am I gonna take on tomorrow
00:28:03.86\00:28:05.80
All right because
it's all about growing.
00:28:05.83\00:28:08.38
Well, listen,
thank you for joining us
00:28:08.41\00:28:10.65
on the Making of Success,
00:28:10.68\00:28:12.11
Bianca Gilbert
and being with us.
00:28:12.14\00:28:14.19
We wish you well in
Korea, God bless you.
00:28:14.22\00:28:16.56
I'm Dr. Kim Logan
Nowlin. I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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And let's continue
to "Making It Work."
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God bless.
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