Hi, I'm Arthur Nowlin.
And in this Making It Work.
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Today we're here talking
about insurmountable favor,
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and we happen to
have Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin
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who happens to be my wife.
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One of the
things that we discussed
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when we met the
last time is basically
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you're passing some of the
difficulties that you faced.
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We talked about
you being in school.
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We talked about coming home
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and experiencing
some difficulties
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in developing a relationship,
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and out of that relationship,
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you had an experience
where you are, was a child.
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And from that
experience you still, overcame
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some of the difficulties
with family support.
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So how do we
follow up with that today?
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Well, first of all,
thank you for having me,
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and I'm am really
honored and blessed to be here.
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Some of the challenges
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I've faced I
was able to overcome
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because I never left the church.
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Even when we go through sin,
the Bible says in 1 John 1:9
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"If we confess your
sins, he is faithful
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and just to
forgive you of your sins,
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and to cleanse you
from all unrighteousness."
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And when I was a little
girl, my grandfather told me,
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you have such faith.
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And I learned that scripture
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I don't know
who showed it to me.
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Hebrews 11:1 " Faith is the
substance of things hoped for,
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the evidence of
things not seen."
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So I conquer that scripture-
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I was, my heart began to be open
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to the Word of God
in a different way.
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And so the different challenges
I had to face being ADHD
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because you know
being in a classroom
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where I couldn't understand,
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how to 2 plus 2 could equal 4.
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And how I could drive
down the street and end up lost
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and my home was
just around the corner.
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And I was hyper, I
was so hyper and busy,
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but God still
allowed me to accomplish
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the goals in my life.
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Amen.
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Being ADHD and then at that time
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you didn't have a lot of
the tools that was available
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or that's available
for our students now.
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Yeah.
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So you must've had
a lot of difficulty.
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I had a lot of difficulty
but God always sent me
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wonderful people in
my life to tutor me.
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I had great friends
and the Lord even sent
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one of my dearest friends
to Wayne State University
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while I was
getting earning my PhD
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and I had these
statistic classes
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and I got the
chairman of statistics
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to come in to work with me.
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And when I went into
defend my doctoral dissertation,
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they said there's
nothing we can ask you,
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because I study and the
Bible says in 2 Timothy 2:15
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"Study to shew thyself approved,
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a workman that
need not to be ashamed,
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rightly dividing
the word of truth."
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So even being
ADHD learning disabled,
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I would not allow that
to stop me as my mother did.
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And I had to work
a little bit harder.
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I had to work a lot
harder, I just study harder.
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I had to write paper
sometimes ten times over.
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I've spend a lot of time crying
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but I knew that with God's grace
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by His grace I could do it.
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I knew it.
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Another thing that was
going on during that time,
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you had a speech impediment.
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I have several speech
impediments throughout my life.
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They used to make
fun of my brother,
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my brother Kirk stuttered.
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And stuttering is
a learned behavior
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and I earned a
degree in undergrad
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in special education.
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And speech pathology and a sign
language which was my minore
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and I wanted to understand why
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and I have some stuttering
issues as a child even today.
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But as I grew older
slowdown, pace myself
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and you can overcome stuttering.
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That's phenomenal.
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And most importantly you still
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kept focus on
completing your college degree
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and working through
this educational process,
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there might have
been difficult for someone
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who didn't have a speech
impediment, who wasn't ADHD.
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All right, even
without a learning disability,
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I saw many of my
peers stopped, give up
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and they didn't want
to write the dissertation.
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You ever heard
ABD, you know ABD is?
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Explain that to us.
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ABD is a term we use
in the doctoral program
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and it's called
all but dissertation.
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They take all the course work.
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They complete all that,
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you go to all the
examinations and everything.
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But you don't want to
write the dissertation.
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And I wasn't going to be a ABD.
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I wanted to be a PhD.
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Amen.
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And I was determined to do that.
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And I did fail part of my exams
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and I had to wait six
months to go in and defend.
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I had to two
professors who left.
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They set my
dissertation on a desk
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and it was one issue
or another but I prayed.
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I thank the Lord
for my Uncle Sam Logan,
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the late Sam Logan at
the Michigan Chronicle,
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who also interceded on my
behalf to get things rolling,
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and I defended
and God did the rest.
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And I have to say this,
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my pastor, Pastor Murray Joyner.
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And about 25-30 people
came to my doctorial defense.
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PhD in Speech Pedagogy,
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which is the study
of speech communication
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and oral
interpretation and then also
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clinical psychology
and family counseling.
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And earning a master's
and as a Guidance Counseling,
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I earned by LPC, My
license professional counseling,
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so they were all there and
we're in a circle of prayer
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when I was about to defend
and my teacher looked down
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and he did not worship
God, and he joined that circle.
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I remember that.
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Yes, and we prayed, I went in.
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Everyone was in the
room, they asked the question.
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And even when
questions came to me,
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the scriptures came to me
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because my friends
were in the back saying
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agree with thy adversary.
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And when my professors
would ask me a question
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I would say, you
know you're right.
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I have to rethink
that, let me re-look that,
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I'll make that change.
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And I could see something
and I said what was going on,
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he said, we were
praying a scripture over you,
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agree with thy adversary.
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And so God worked it out
and when they told us to go out
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and when they opened the
door about 30 minutes later
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we were praying,
we were fellowshipping
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and they opened the door
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and they says
there's Dr Kim Logan here.
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Yeah, phenomenal.
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You know and this
is really a testimony
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because once again
we're talking about someone
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that had some speech impediment
that was generally with ADHD.
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But it didn't
let you prevent you
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from moving forward
and still obtain your PhD,
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that's phenomenal.
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Yeah, it was a lot of
work, a lot a classes,
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there was no online programs.
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No online programs
then and I just thank God
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and I remember looking
at my little girl's face
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and seeing and I
said Lord, I thank you,
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and I just want to be
an inspiration to her,
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now wherever I
came in contact with.
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But to be able to now
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because I could take
care of her and support her.
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And I thank God for that.
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Another thing that was--
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that was going on
during that particular time is
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that you were still running a
business during this whole time
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while you were in
school working on your PhD.
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Yes.
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You were still seeing
clients and most importantly,
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you were going back
to school taking classes
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and doing your assignments.
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Oh, yes, I was
doing that multitasking,
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because I had a vision,
the Lord gave me a vision
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to start a
Christian counseling clinic
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and also speech and
language therapy clinic.
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And also some other aspect,
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motivational speaker,
inspirational speaker.
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And I wanted to write,
I wanted to be an author.
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I wanted to do a lot of things.
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And I remember my
aunt Etna say to me
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don't ever tie God's hands.
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He will give you
insurmountable favor.
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And so we learned about faith
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but I didn't hear the word favor
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till one day I visited a
church with my brother Derrick,
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and the minister
was preaching on favor.
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And I said,
Derrick, what's favor?
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He said, you
know, God blesses us,
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with our faith
and we believe in,
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if you obey God and when
you wake up in the morning,
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He blesses you, and
you have food on the table
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and your bills are met.
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But he looked at me he said,
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favor is when you obey
God with everything you have.
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He can trust you to give you
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all in
abundantly what you ask for.
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Man, that's powerful.
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Favor.
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Now, you threw that
finger out like that.
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So you want make of it a
tremendous emphasis on favor.
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I'll tell you that sermon
took me to the next level.
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I said, it was
like oh, you know,
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having a big dip-dish
of strawberry ice cream.
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And favor, favor, favor,
favor and I started researching
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God's favor and studying about
the favor that he gave Joshua,
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that he gave Esther,
that he gave to Deborah,
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that he gave to
Joseph, favor, Samuel favor.
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And I said if I could
just walk in the will of God
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and be obedient,
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there is no good thing
you will know from that.
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This insurmountable
favor is something
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that I've been hearing you
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referred to recently
more so than in the past.
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And it was more where I wasn't
hearing you talk about faith
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'cause you, and I we
really would discuss faith.
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And one of the things
that I had recognized is that
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your faith was over
in abundance self of
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what someone else
may have experienced.
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I just knew that there
is nothing God couldn't do.
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And whatever God,
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whatever I ask God to do,
God always brought it to pass.
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He said to David, David
you're the apple of my eye,
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that's what I
wanted to be to God.
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You know, even meeting you
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and the Lord
blessed me to meet you,
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and I promised the Lord
that I would not become,
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I would not
break his commandments,
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I would not do it.
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And being a witness to you
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and then I wanted more children.
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And through marriage to you,
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the Lord blessed
us eight years later
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with beautiful baby Aaron.
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And I have to tell you
that Micah finished high school,
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she was a honor
student, Mount Vernon Academy.
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Yes.
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And then she went on
to Oakwood University
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and graduated
from Oakwood University
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in communication
television broadcasting
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where she is now working
in her field in Huntsville.
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And it's just a blessing, I cry,
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I was just so
happy to be able to see
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my child earn
her college degree.
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Let's talk about
that for a moment.
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Had you come to the
point where you sat down
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and talked to Micah
about this whole experience?
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That was difficult.
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You know because I-- you know,
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how do you tell your child
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that you made an
error, you made a mistake.
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You did something wrong.
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And as a child I
didn't have to worry about
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but as you get older,
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I knew the time would come
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where I had to talk
to her about her life,
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because it impacted her.
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And I didn't want our
daughter to look for love
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in wrong, wrong
places, all the wrong places
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and truly you were a blessing
because you came into her life,
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when she was eight years old
and you became daddy, you know.
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And it's amazing
when I hear her say daddy,
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you just-- you
just, it's amazing,
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it's a wonderful feeling.
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How she looks at you
and she response to you.
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But I also knew I had to bring
some, I had to close some gaps.
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And I had to
step up to the plate.
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I had to ask God for courage,
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because I knew
a time had to come
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when I had to
introduce her to her father,
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her biological father.
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And it was so hard,
because I had to now face--
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it's like I didn't want
to be reminded of my sin.
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But God have forgiven me,
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but I had to make
things right for her.
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And that's what it takes,
you have to be transparent,
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you have to be
honest with your children.
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And I have to say,
I've waited too long.
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I should have done it sooner.
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I kind of camouflaged
this thing with Arthur.
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So I didn't have to
really tell her anything else,
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and then my brother-in-law,
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my sister and
others and my mom said,
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you need to tell,
you need to tell us,
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I said, no no,
no, why won't you?
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And I would get up
and walk out of the room
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because it is not something
I wanted to deal with, okay.
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We're fine. We're
good. You know, she's good.
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And later on I found out that
she needed some understanding.
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And we need to bring
some closure to this.
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It needed to make her whole.
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It needed to make her whole,
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and it was up to
her whether or not
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she wanted to have a
relationship with him or not.
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Absolutely.
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I did not agree with a lot
of his lifestyle, his principal,
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but he was always a
kind person, good person.
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And his family has always
been loving and kind to me,
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had not seen him since I
went to his father's funeral.
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And then I was at a graduation
in the city of Detroit,
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and I was
running for City Council.
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And I was doing
different speaking engagements
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in different things.
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And someone
tapped me on the shoulder
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and they said Dr. Logan,
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Dr. Logan and I
was steadily talking.
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And the person say, Kim,
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and I knew that voice instantly.
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And I turned and we
embraced and he cried
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and I spoke at his
son's A grade graduation.
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Amazing, you know.
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How of all the
schools, all the places
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I end up being
the graduation speaker
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at his son's graduation.
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So here it is,
now Micah has learned
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who her biological dad is.
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Yes, and we came
together and they met
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and now they're developing
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slowly but
surely a relationship.
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And I mean, I thank God for you
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because you
supported the decision,
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and I know that must have been
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somewhat hard for you at times.
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And I remember
coming to you, asking you
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and I remember Micah sharing
with Karen you know and others,
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but it had to be done.
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And my cousin Karen
called me and she said to me,
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and no one else said this to me
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but she said,
I'm so proud of you.
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This is my baby cousin,
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because I didn't have to
do this, I didn't step out.
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And I said, I really broke down
and cried for her to say that
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because I thought I
let her down and others.
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But the Lord allowed me
to bring it full circle,
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and I have no regrets.
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I can look at my child,
I can look in the mirror.
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I can look at my life
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and know how God has blessed me.
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And things have come,
you know, family line,
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making it work, other
opportunities are coming.
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Yes.
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In insurmountable favor
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because I just- I trust God.
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I believe God and I
have made a covenant with God
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to live a holy
and righteous life.
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And I believe that
that's the most important thing.
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When we get to a point now lies
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where we know we
have to do something.
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We have to make
some type of change
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that's going to help us address
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some of those
mistakes from our past.
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And what took
place with you, Kim?
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Here's the fact
that you made a decision
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that this can go on no more.
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And with the
persistence of Micah,
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you knew that you
had to make a difference.
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And we can all make a difference
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especially when we
know that the Lord is in it,
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and that's most
important as well.
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God was in this whole thing
even though we make mistakes,
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God does not
turn His back on us.
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Oh, God never
turns His back on us
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and I want to make one question.
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Micah never was persistent
in saying, mom, who's my dad?
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Who's my dad? She
was content with you.
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And she came home, I called her
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and I said, I
want to do something.
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I said I want to
have a blood test.
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I know but I
need for you to know,
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and we all met
together and I told you.
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And we went and
she was kind of quiet.
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She was cordial towards him.
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He was happy but he had
to- he had to understand
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that this was all new for her.
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And they went, she didn't
say too many words at the test.
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And about a week
and a half later,
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I got the results back
and I called her, called him.
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And my mom said to me,
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I always already knew
and I was like I know mom,
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but we all need to just make
sure and bring closure to this.
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And having the blood test
and helping us to understand
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that this was her
father and it was now
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black and white and let's go on.
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I think, you didn't really
talk to Micah on many occasions,
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but where she would
talk to me about, you know,
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finding out who her dad was.
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And when I say
persistent, you know,
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she would come
to me periodically
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and we would discuss and I said,
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Micah whatever I need
to do to help you do that.
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I'm willing to help you do that.
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And I think that it
kind of gave her some comfort
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that she can talk to me about it
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as well as talk to
other close people in her life
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and to let her
know, let them know
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that this is something
that she really wanted to do.
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She had a timeframe that
she wanted to accomplish that
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before that timeframe.
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And I thank God for that
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but there's so
much more to this story.
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Because Micah is-- she
says to me over and over
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how proud she
is of me how happy,
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and she says
mommy there's nothing
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that you could
do to ever stop me
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from loving you
or you being my mom.
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People come up to her and says,
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I've heard your story
or your mom's testimony.
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Some people sat
me in a camp meeting
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and they said to me you know,
00:18:31.62\00:18:33.29
Dr. Logan, I never
knew your testimony.
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And they would
judge me by work we had
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and what they saw and
or I was just Dr. Logan
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and they never knew, you know,
00:18:42.75\00:18:45.73
my story, or my cry, or
the sin that I committed
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and but God covered that sin.
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And I'm not ashamed of my
story because the Bible says,
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tell of your
testimonies, glorify His name.
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Yes.
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And how God will save you
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from the gutter
most to the uttermost.
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God will do that
and I'm so elated
00:19:03.76\00:19:06.62
because I just,
I have a new book.
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I just completed and
I'm writing another book.
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It's my fifth book.
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And the story is about
Micah, I'm telling this story.
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And I can't wait
for it to be finished,
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and how this story
has evolved itself.
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And it's brought us full circle.
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And, you know,
that's tremendous.
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I know it must be a
relief for you, you know,
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because you don't
have to have the tension
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in regards to and the anxiety
regards to that situation
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now it's out in
the open and it's over.
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Well, wasn't any
anxiety or tension.
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I think more than anything,
00:19:48.98\00:19:50.71
I just didn't
want my child to hurt.
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So it wasn't that, it was just
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being able to
take responsibility
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and help her through.
00:20:00.01\00:20:01.85
And I thank God for that,
00:20:01.88\00:20:03.29
but I tell you it's
been a roller-coaster.
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I thank God for the ministry,
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the counseling clinic,
00:20:09.72\00:20:11.43
when other people told
me to take Christian out.
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The Lord said, you keep it in,
00:20:14.51\00:20:16.20
and all the people are
going to the Lord has just
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blessed our business together.
00:20:19.89\00:20:22.22
We've joined forces.
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We have joined forces
00:20:23.51\00:20:25.44
as Family Life
directors of the conference
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and we serve as a Lake
Region Directors of Family Life.
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We're the Family Live directors
of the Lake Region Conference
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of the
Seventh-day Adventist church.
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And our North America division
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is divided into
some several conferences.
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And we have conferences where
our churches come together.
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And we are one of
many Family Life directors
00:20:46.97\00:20:51.11
and now here we are together,
00:20:51.14\00:20:52.51
we're serving
again on Making It Work.
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So I believe that God,
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I know that God
brought my life full circle,
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because He's got me.
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Because He had a
purpose for my life,
00:21:01.76\00:21:04.06
He had a season for my life
and if had continued doing sin,
00:21:04.09\00:21:07.94
and that father's cry to me
just say go on with your life.
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Don't look
back, don't look back.
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But if I had not had Micah,
I was on my way to California.
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I wanted to go to Hollywood,
00:21:22.42\00:21:24.08
I was going to
go into that life.
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And I might have
lost my soul out there.
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You know, but the Lord
knew it was test for you.
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The Lord knew.
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You know and He gave you favor.
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He gave me favor.
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Because you made
the right decision,
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you know and then now, Kim,
I'm not bragging or anything,
00:21:37.66\00:21:41.49
but you know, you really
lucked out when, you know,
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you've came into my life
00:21:44.73\00:21:46.40
and we really
lucked out with each other.
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Well, I don't call it luck.
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I call it-- It's a blessing.
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It's a blessing and favor. Yeah.
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You know I know--
I know my husband,
00:21:53.24\00:21:56.40
he came into this
faith many years ago.
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But I was born and
raised Seventh-day Adventist,
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so I never believed
in luck or coincidence.
00:22:02.10\00:22:05.10
I wasn't raised
that way but a blessing
00:22:05.13\00:22:07.94
and I know we're
blessing to each other.
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Absolutely.
00:22:09.61\00:22:10.64
So and you're blessing to--
00:22:10.67\00:22:13.01
You know, and I think I
was just saying an adjustment.
00:22:13.04\00:22:15.76
No, no, no it's okay, it's okay
00:22:15.79\00:22:17.52
because you know a lot of
times people don't understand
00:22:17.55\00:22:20.51
that even as Christians,
we sometimes use terms
00:22:20.54\00:22:24.57
or words but we get
caught up and we forget
00:22:24.60\00:22:29.88
that everything must
be brought back to God
00:22:29.91\00:22:32.99
blessings, favor, faith
00:22:33.02\00:22:35.79
everything must be
brought back to God.
00:22:35.82\00:22:37.61
And so it's okay you know you--
00:22:37.64\00:22:40.04
it's like we're still
learning, we're always learning.
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Yes, we're still learning.
You know so I appreciate that.
00:22:42.35\00:22:45.23
Oh, no problem. No problem.
00:22:45.26\00:22:46.32
Yeah.
00:22:46.35\00:22:47.43
Let me, let me just
say this to the viewers.
00:22:47.46\00:22:50.51
In everything
that I've been through
00:22:50.54\00:22:53.04
everything it is not been easy.
00:22:53.07\00:22:57.30
You see this person
00:22:57.33\00:22:59.70
but has come with
trials and tribulations.
00:22:59.73\00:23:02.93
Has come with hard
work and determination
00:23:02.96\00:23:04.95
and a support
system from my family,
00:23:04.98\00:23:07.99
from my church and friends.
00:23:08.02\00:23:10.83
And I thank God for all
of you listen to me please,
00:23:10.86\00:23:14.92
I thank God for all of
you who have helped me.
00:23:14.95\00:23:18.26
Because I stand on yours--
00:23:18.29\00:23:21.19
And I thank God
that you showed us
00:23:21.22\00:23:22.83
were there for me to stand on.
00:23:22.86\00:23:24.60
And for you to hold me up
00:23:24.63\00:23:26.98
because I would not
have been able to make it.
00:23:27.01\00:23:29.58
I thank God for putting
people like you in my life,
00:23:29.61\00:23:33.35
so that I could go on
and be who I am today.
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So all of you today
who may be watching this,
00:23:36.27\00:23:39.84
there's somebody out
there that needs to lean on you.
00:23:39.87\00:23:42.88
Don't turn your back on
that child, help that child.
00:23:42.91\00:23:47.79
Reach out to your children
no matter how old they are.
00:23:47.82\00:23:50.55
And help them
come back to Christ
00:23:50.58\00:23:53.10
and let them know
that there is nothing
00:23:53.13\00:23:55.65
that God can forgive.
00:23:55.68\00:23:57.72
Nothing, nothing too
big for God to handle
00:23:57.75\00:24:01.39
and I'm a living witness of it.
00:24:01.42\00:24:03.64
That's tremendous
because we need to have people
00:24:03.67\00:24:06.63
that are transparent.
00:24:06.66\00:24:08.00
Well, in this year some of
the trials and tribulations
00:24:08.03\00:24:10.76
that they've gone through.
00:24:10.79\00:24:12.12
You know because
and let me say this,
00:24:12.15\00:24:13.41
have I could not be chose parent
00:24:13.44\00:24:15.11
and I do apologize
for cutting you off
00:24:15.14\00:24:17.01
that I will be ashamed of Micah.
00:24:17.04\00:24:19.17
And I'm not ashamed of my
life. I'm not ashamed at all.
00:24:19.20\00:24:23.09
Sometimes it takes a lot for
a person to get to that point.
00:24:23.12\00:24:25.84
Oh, yeah.
00:24:25.87\00:24:26.90
Yeah, you've
reached that point in life
00:24:26.93\00:24:28.45
where transparency is
not difficult for you.
00:24:28.48\00:24:32.22
But there are still
some people out there
00:24:32.25\00:24:34.20
that's out there
right now that may feel,
00:24:34.23\00:24:36.88
that they can't talk to anyone.
00:24:36.91\00:24:38.81
They can't share
some of the turmoil
00:24:38.84\00:24:41.86
that they're going through.
00:24:41.89\00:24:42.96
They may even feel dead,
00:24:42.99\00:24:44.70
they've been thinking
about taking their own lives
00:24:44.73\00:24:47.25
because of the
pain that they go,
00:24:47.28\00:24:49.37
that they're
continuing to go through.
00:24:49.40\00:24:51.83
And we just ask that
you continue to reach out
00:24:51.86\00:24:54.84
and believe that God
has insurmountable favor
00:24:54.87\00:24:58.70
for you as well.
00:24:58.73\00:25:00.09
Let me say this, I
remember many years ago,
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because our daughter
she does sign language.
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and she ministers with us.
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And I was at a woman's
conference in Myrtle Beach
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and I was the keynote speaker
for the women's conference.
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And I got up to
speak and I sat back down
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the Lord said you're not done.
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He said, get up and
tell your story about Micah.
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And I said all right,
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and I told the story and
I said there's someone here
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thinking about abortion
or giving your child away.
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And I called my
daughter up to sign for me
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and people were
like oh, my goodness
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and a woman walked up
to the stage and said,
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I want to abort today, today.
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And I said don't you abort
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today that baby
is eight-years-old
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in his mother's care.
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That's tremendous.
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And so by
telling my story openly
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even at women's conferences,
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wherever I go camp meeting
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whatever I get a
chance to tell my story.
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My story is about
Micah, how God bless
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and when I went into labor,
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I was reading the Book a Micah
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and that truly
was a blessing to me.
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And Micah 7:7,
wait I say on the Lord,
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wait on the Lord
and be of good courage.
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Well, we're certainly happy
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that you've been
fortunate enough,
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where the Lord has
continued to be with you
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and direct your path,
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and give you wisdom and guidance
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in making decisions even
though we make a mistake.
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Oh, yes.
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Even though we may go off
the path just for a moment.
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Yes.
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God is still there to
motivate us and give us
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the inside test required
for us to have a better life.
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So I'm saying to you
that I love you because-
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Thank you.
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You are just a tremendous person
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and because of
your faith in God.
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It motivates me just like
it motivates many other people.
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So I'll continue to be blessed
with insurmountable favor
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but most importantly
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we ask that you
continue to reach out to those
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that may feel that
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they are at a
difficult point in their lives.
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And that is something
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that is just difficult
for them to move forward
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and they need
someone to motivate them
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or continue to be with them.
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Oh, yes, most definitely.
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We have maybe about 30 minutes,
I mean about 30 seconds left.
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Is there anything that you
would like to close out with?
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I just want to say again,
be thou faithful unto death.
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And you will
receive a crown of life.
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And it may not all
work out the way you want
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but continue to
work hard, be diligent.
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Don't give upon your dreams.
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I was still able to accomplish
everything even with my baby.
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I accomplished
even more and give more
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even now and helping families.
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And being able to give
back and help my own family.
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And support people
from all across the country,
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so I just want you to know
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that God has great
things in store for Dr. Kim
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he's not done yet.
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You know and I thank God
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and every morning
I wake up and I say,
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what do you need me to do today?
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What do you have for me?
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Insurmountable
things. Insurmountable favor.
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And he has it for you.
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Until the next time
this is Arthur Nowlin.
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And I'm Dr Kim Logan-Nowlin.
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And thank you for
watching Making It Work.
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