Participants: Arthur Nowlin (Host), Dr Kim Logan-Nowlin (Host), John Trombley
Series Code: MIW
Program Code: MIW000019
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00:01 Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin.
00:02 And I'm Arthur Nowlin. 00:03 And welcome to "making it work." 00:37 Our topic today still fighting. 00:42 Arthur, what comes to mind when you hear 00:45 words like that still fighting? 00:47 I'm in the battle. I'm not giving up. 00:49 I'm faced with some difficulties but I am-- 00:53 I continue to move forward no matter what. 00:55 And I know you can identify with that. 00:57 Well, today on our program and we're so happy to have him 01:01 with us here on making it work, John Trombley. 01:04 And he's going to tell you how he's still fighting. 01:07 Welcome, John. Hey. 01:09 How you're doing, John? 01:10 Good. Good. 01:11 Tell us your story. 01:13 So I-- October 22 of 2010 01:17 I was diagnosed with multiple myeloma, 01:20 which is a cancer of the bone marrow. 01:23 I guess I should back up a little bit. 01:25 I thought what I was dealing with was sciatica, 01:28 I've just recently picked up jogging 01:30 so I thought for sure that I must have just messed up 01:34 a muscle or something like that. 01:36 So I worked at a hospital at the time. 01:39 So I asked one of the doctors 01:41 if they could shoot up the sciatica, 01:44 so I could stretch it out 01:45 'cause I had been struggling with it for quite a while 01:46 trying to stretch it out, 01:47 trying to relieve the pain that I was having. 01:50 And the doctor said yeah, we can do that 01:53 but I'd rather do an examination first 01:55 so-- so she did. 01:57 She did an examination, she took x-rays 02:00 and within a half hour she-- I had been taken off work. 02:04 My life just completely changed, she said I don't-- 02:07 Within half hour. 02:08 Within a half hour she did already found 02:10 one of the tumors just in the x-ray. 02:12 I had a-- I had a tumor in my pelvic bone 02:15 which is why I was having the pain. 02:17 It wasn't sciatica at all. 02:19 And she even-- you know, the Lord works in great ways 02:23 and she says I think you have multiple myeloma. 02:26 She said right then in there 02:27 so it was a whirlwind after that. 02:30 She wasn't a cancer doctor, she was a leg, you know, 02:35 knee, leg, feet doctor. 02:37 So after that I had to do the CAT scans and the MRI'S 02:42 and all of that. 02:43 And my official date of October 22 02:47 was I had multiple myeloma 02:50 and again it is a bone marrow cancer 02:54 which your white blood cells are made in your bone marrow. 02:57 So my immune system is pretty much short as well. 03:03 So that's what multiple myeloma is, it's to the end. 03:05 As of right now, it's an incurable cancer. 03:08 Incurable. 03:09 Yes, so but again I have been blessed and it is-- 03:13 we call it stable because it is incurable 03:15 but it's stable right now. 03:17 Are you taking or receiving chemo or radiation? 03:20 I am, I take chemo in a pill form 03:23 and I take it three weeks. 03:26 I take it three weeks and then I'm off for week basically. 03:29 Okay. 03:30 And that's accompanied with the couple of other drugs. 03:32 I have a steroid that I take and a-- 03:35 and an infusion that I take that goes together that this-- 03:39 the doctor at the hospital that I worked at had created. 03:44 Again, God put me in the right place. 03:47 I should not have-- I did not go to school 03:50 to work at a hospital. 03:51 I went to school for communications. 03:53 So-- so I shouldn't be in the hospital environment 03:58 when after conversion I went to-- 04:02 I was blessed to get this job at the hospital 04:05 and it was on the job training, 04:06 which is something that's rare anymore. 04:08 And so when I went to the doctor, 04:14 he there are-- I think six to eight doctors 04:17 that do this test study. 04:19 Out of the six to eight, two of 'em invented it. 04:22 The doctor that I have was one of the two 04:24 that had invented this-- this test study. 04:27 So I believe God put me 04:28 at this particular hospital for a reason 04:30 and I've been blessed and also be blessed. 04:34 You said, after you've been converted. 04:36 Okay, so have the conversion, 04:38 so tell us a little bit about that? 04:40 So sure, I grew up I-- I did not grew up in a church. 04:45 And by high school I had a-- I had somebody that was-- 04:51 one of the students had died. 04:54 And I always kind of contemplated God 04:57 and tried to figure it out everything 05:00 and bottom-line was the-- 05:02 the thought of this person being able to peek over a cloud 05:07 at anytime and watch me really, it really bugged me. 05:11 It was disturbing and I thought if that is, 05:14 if that's Christianity, if that's what happens 05:16 afterwards I guess. 05:17 If that's what happens afterwards, 05:18 I don't want any part of that. 05:20 That just sounds so silly to me basically. 05:22 So I rejected God, I rejected the whole thing 05:27 and because it was just too silly to me. 05:29 Yes. 05:30 So by high school I had declared myself an atheist 05:34 and lived the life that I led. 05:39 Again I was in radio and I was in some local bands 05:42 and stuff like that. 05:43 And the stuff that goes along with that and so... 05:49 I converted about 10 years ago 05:53 and that story is one of the other members 05:55 that was in the local scene had converted 05:58 and I had gotten married. 06:01 I had the full time job 06:03 and as an atheist that's it, right? 06:05 And so I was-- I was with my buddy, 06:09 we were drinking 06:10 and I was saying boy this is it. 06:11 This is awful, you know, if this is all life is. 06:15 So he goes, well, if you truly believe that 06:18 you need to come to this with me and it was the-- 06:21 the local church was having a evangelistic series. 06:24 Okay. 06:25 And immediately I jumped on the other side. 06:27 I didn't want to lose my drinking buddy, 06:28 so I wanted to come to the church with him, 06:30 so I could find the flaw, so we can find a loophole. 06:34 So we can go back to living the life that we were living. 06:36 Well. 06:37 And I've yet to find it, so I stayed. 06:39 You stayed. 06:40 So the church you went to was Seventh-day Adventist. 06:42 It is Seventh-day Adventist church 06:43 and I had looked at other churches before 06:45 and there was always that loophole. 06:47 You know, and so-- so when I came here, 06:51 I was just so impressed with the truth. 06:57 And you're a member at the Oakwood Church. 06:58 Yes. 07:00 And you're from the Taylor Park and where are you from? 07:03 Flat Rock. Flat Rock in Michigan. 07:05 Now, so you went to college and what about family support 07:09 during when you were diagnosed with-- 07:11 Tell us about your family? 07:12 Yeah, my family was terrific actually. 07:15 My family co-workers, I was so impressed 07:18 with family co-workers, church family. 07:22 It was very humbling 07:25 because I'm kind of the type of person 07:28 that I can do it on my own type of thing 07:31 and so it was very-- we have such great support. 07:37 My in-laws are so supportive as far as, you know, 07:42 helping with the kids and you know my in laws, 07:44 I mean, both have medical problems themselves 07:47 yet they're helping. 07:49 I guess I keep saying October 22 07:52 'cause the same day I was diagnosed, 07:53 my baby boy was born the exact same day. 07:55 Yeah. 07:57 So we had him at 2 am, I was diagnosed at 8 am. 08:00 Really. 08:02 And so it was just kind of a whirlwind, you know, 08:05 so now my poor wife has, you know, she just had a baby, 08:10 now she's and she might-- our family life before hand. 08:15 My wife has a scleroderma which is a disease 08:19 that kind of hardens the-- your innards 08:22 and it can harden your skin and stuff like that. 08:25 Praise God, she has a very, very mild case of it. 08:27 Praise God. Yeah. 08:29 I heard that that could be very devastating. 08:31 It is, it is and she was, so she was always the sick one. 08:33 I was always the healthy one. 08:34 Yeah. 08:36 And also it was-- it flipped us up, you know, 08:39 flipped the whole thing upside down. 08:42 Now all of a sudden, I'm the sick one, 08:44 now she has to take care off. 08:45 She just had a baby and I mean, 08:46 it was just completely changed everything 08:49 but again family support was very good. 08:51 Church support was very good 08:52 and co-workers were outstanding and you really do see. 08:57 You know, when you can get 08:59 the world is so nasty, all right. 09:02 But boy, you can really see the God working 09:06 in this nasty world at the same time. 09:07 Oh, yes, He can. 09:08 In and out of church. 09:10 You know, let me ask you about your faith, you know, 09:13 when we talked before to our previous guest hope. 09:17 You know, did you ever question God? 09:18 Did you say, why me? 09:20 Did you ever blame God? Were you angry at God? 09:22 I was never angry at God. 09:24 I praise God that He was in my life 09:27 because I wonder if what old John would have done. 09:31 I have no idea what I would have done. 09:34 You know, I would have tried to drink it away basically is 09:38 what I would have tried to do. 09:39 So I praise that God, He was there. 09:41 Now, well, there are those times where it's, you know, 09:45 hey, I want to live a little bit long you know. 09:48 Again with this-- with this diagnoses 09:52 it's a-- the doctors giving you a good 15 years. 09:56 Okay. 09:58 Well, 15 years you know, that puts me in my 50's, 10:00 I want more than 15 years. 10:02 So I shouldn't have this. 10:05 I guess nobody should have this 10:07 but when you get diagnosed with this, 10:08 what you find out is that you're supposed to be over 65 10:12 when you get multiple myeloma. 10:14 So for me to be 35 when I got it, 36, 35 it was-- 10:21 I think I'm their favorite guinea pig 10:22 'cause now they get to figure out, you know, 10:24 how far along this test will go. 10:27 So again, I just-- oh, the question was I'm sorry. 10:34 So I'm glad that God was in my life. 10:36 I never questioned God in-- but I questioned the things 10:42 that again my baby boy was just born. 10:45 I have a six year old daughter as well. 10:47 You start to contemplate when am I okay with dying 10:51 basically, right. 10:52 When she grad-- when they graduate oh, wait a second, 10:54 now I want to see who they marry. 10:56 Now, wait a second, I want to see grandkids, you know what, 10:58 what's now I want to see them graduate. 10:59 You know, what I mean so. 11:00 So you start to contemplate like 11:02 when is it okay to go ahead 11:04 because I don't say this cavalier in any way 11:08 I-- I'm comfortable again because of my faith with-- 11:15 we know it's going to end this life here, right. 11:19 We know this is going to end at some point. 11:21 I have just been slapped in the face with it. 11:23 But we all know that that's going to end, 11:26 so I guess again when am I comfortable with it? 11:30 That, those, that's the struggle 11:31 I think of when am I comfortable with. 11:33 One of the things I was thinking about 11:35 when you say, when is it going to happen? 11:39 You know, you said 15 years so is that's standard 11:44 when someone is diagnosed with that particular disease? 11:47 That is 5 years ago, 11:50 they gave you 5 years basically-- 11:52 Five years. 11:53 Yeah, but with this particular study 11:55 he's getting the results of 15 years. 11:58 But again the problem is well most of his patients are 65, 12:02 15-20 years is a good thing and usually you know 12:05 unfortunately they pass on from something else. 12:09 So with me being younger when I get it, 12:13 this is something new for them. 12:16 I mean, I'm not the only one, they're getting younger people 12:18 more and more these days but so we don't know yet 12:23 that's what the problem is-- 12:25 they don't know and we don't know yet. 12:27 Well, I guess, my reason for asking that question 12:30 is basically when we think about 15 years 12:34 or whatever the years maybe. 12:37 The more that they do research, 12:40 the more they are involved with trying to find 12:43 some type of cure or maybe even different you know, 12:46 we-- as you continue to-- to move forward 12:50 in your fight against this insidious disease. 12:54 You know, so-- 12:55 Yeah, absolutely and you know, 12:57 they've harvested my stem cells, so if it-- 13:00 Okay. 13:01 Because it's guaranteed to come back pretty much. 13:03 It's guaranteed to come back 13:04 so they've harvested my stem cells 13:06 and when it does they can-- shoot those in me 13:11 and then we can start over basically. 13:13 So you are right in 15, 20 years, 13:14 they may find a cure, absolutely. 13:17 But I just have to wait basically. 13:19 I have to wait so. 13:21 Okay, you know, so what about your wife. 13:25 Let's go back to her. 13:27 You know she's been dealing with some concerns of her own 13:31 and now she's reaching out to you and nurturing you 13:35 and encouraging you. 13:36 How does that make you feel? 13:38 It's been this whole process, if ever there is anything 13:43 that can humble you. 13:45 It is this having to ask for help 13:48 and which is something that I don't like to do. 13:51 I-- you know, I've grew up, you take care of the business, 13:54 you keep your business to yourself 13:56 and you can go on, you know. 13:59 This disease completely turns that upside down. 14:02 You have to ask for help. 14:04 The biggest-- forgive me, 14:08 part of the disease is losing your words, 14:11 so part of the treatment. 14:12 Oh, you are doing fine. 14:13 Thank you, sorry, I'm so-- 14:15 Yes. 14:17 You wake up every morning and you have to do is your body 14:21 going to let you move, 14:23 'cause the biggest thing is fatigue basically. 14:26 And it's not fatigue like oh, I'm sleepy. 14:28 It's fatigue, your body just doesn't want to move. 14:31 So that's the hardest thing. 14:32 That's the biggest side effect from the disease. 14:36 So you wake up every morning and you can see 14:39 how the disease could totally consume you with that, right. 14:41 Because, you know, at first when you get diagnosed, 14:43 you get on the internet. 14:44 You try to figure it out. 14:46 You know, and then you hear everybody is dying from it. 14:48 So you stop looking at the internet 14:50 and then so anyway, 14:53 it can consume you with that now going back to-- 14:57 so I have, I'm at home now, I can't work because of this. 15:01 I'm not able to tell an employer, 15:04 I can be there full time because there may be a day 15:06 where I can't get out off bed basically. 15:09 And I can't keep taking sick days so to speak. 15:12 So as of right now I'm I-- I can be employed 15:16 so I'm at home with the kids so that's completely different. 15:19 Which it might be easier to be employed why not? 15:23 But so-- so that's tough that's the struggle. 15:26 I mean to, you know, to go and from being the-- 15:30 I don't want to say burden 15:31 'cause my wife and I both worked but to-- 15:34 if you're doing that to doing this. 15:36 You know what I mean and it's just difficult, 15:38 it's very difficult now and again my wife I mean, 15:41 she is the one that really had to step up. 15:43 I mean, she-- again always being considered 15:47 the one that will take care off. 15:49 Now she's the one that's helping me 15:52 and I guess that's how a marriage works, right. 15:55 Yes. 15:57 And again I praise God 15:59 that He put such a wonderful wife for me. 16:02 I mean, He gave me such a wonderful wife. 16:03 Did you all meet here at church? 16:04 We do not. 16:05 We met in high school actually and dated forever 16:10 and we ended up getting married before we came to the church. 16:15 Yes. 16:18 And so now, I started looking 16:20 and she grew up in a Baptist family. 16:23 Okay. 16:26 And I basically had her out of the church 16:29 by the time we got married. 16:30 You know she had made those decisions 16:32 and so then I start-- I do a complete-- you know, 16:36 180 on her and start going to church 16:39 and I didn't ask her to come at first 16:41 because I didn't want her to feel like 16:42 I'm forcing it on her or anything like that. 16:44 And I was still checking it out too, 16:45 want to make sure there was something 16:47 that I wanted to be involved in. 16:48 And so she started coming to and again praise God 16:51 that she believed the truth as well. 16:53 She saw it and so yeah, it was, you know, 16:56 again I don't know what would have happened if she didn't. 17:00 Now you, John, you preached a sermon 17:02 or you told your testimony, 17:03 is that what about you preached a sermon. 17:04 I preached a sermon, yes. 17:05 At the Oakwood Seventh-day Adventist church 17:07 here in Taylor, Michigan. 17:08 And why-- why did you accept that call to do that? 17:14 I-- I hope that it's the Holy Spirit 17:18 using me for that. 17:19 You know, again I went to school for communications 17:21 and always wanted to be a rock star, all that stuff. 17:25 So I'm hoping that with the conversion, 17:27 the Holy Spirit is using me for that. 17:31 I'm usually an introvert, so it's interesting that 17:34 I can go upfront and do those things. 17:36 And why I was asked, you know, 17:39 I love what I've found you know, 17:42 when I talk to the youth in the church 17:45 and they worry about 17:47 like what's going on out in the world. 17:50 And they don't know how lucky, how special what they have here 17:53 because it is a special thing that we have 17:56 as Adventists and so I love that truth 18:00 and I just want to share it as anyway possible. 18:02 So preaching a Bible studies whatever it needs to be, 18:06 I want to be able to be used for that. 18:08 So I guess that's why I was-- I took that calling. 18:11 And, you know the Bible says many are called 18:13 but few are chosen because they don't accept the call. 18:16 I remember my former pastor said that, you know, 18:20 and you've got to be willing if you really love the Lord, 18:23 are you willing to accept his call. 18:26 And I believe that you heard the voice of God 18:28 and then telling your story 18:30 and how it even touched other people 18:32 such as Sandy Weaver 18:34 and all that she has gone through 18:36 as we talked about in another program. 18:38 Now, your daughter, how old is she now? 18:40 She is six. Six. 18:42 She's active. She's energetic. 18:44 You know, and the baby is how old? 18:46 He is 20 months. 18:47 Oh, my. Yes. 18:49 Oh, very, very, very busy. 18:51 Interesting. Yes. Yes. 18:52 In everything, yes. 18:53 You know, so there are days-- I mean you have to get out 18:56 'cause your wife is at work. 18:57 She's gone and attend to them, play with them, read to them. 19:01 Yes, yes, yes. 19:03 You know, and but I know it keeps you motivated. 19:05 It does absolutely. 19:06 It keeps you motivated and again otherwise 19:09 what would I be doing? 19:10 I'd be sitting may be feeling sorry for myself or whatever 19:12 but, you know, the reason that I-- 19:15 I preach and the kids as well. 19:19 What we learn in the Bible is to take the focus off 19:21 of ourselves, right. 19:22 And we're supposed to focus on other so here's-- 19:25 here's what I have to live for basically, my children 19:28 and to bring others to the Lord, right. 19:31 So that is ultimately why I can't give up. 19:34 I mean I do have a mission, you know, 19:36 before when you guys ask, you know, 19:37 what would I have done beforehand 19:39 I wouldn't had a mission. 19:40 I didn't want kids, 19:42 when I was in that of a lifestyle. 19:43 I didn't want kids. I didn't care about marriage. 19:46 Why do I need permission from the-- the big man in the sky? 19:50 'Cause again I'm thinking-- I mean, you know, 19:52 I have to clear atheism. 19:53 So why do I need permission? So I don't need to be married. 19:56 I don't want to have kids there. 19:58 You know, they're too much of a hassle. 19:59 You know, what I mean. 20:00 It was all through conversion that I had these things. 20:02 Again you can see, you can look back 20:04 and you see God working in your life. 20:06 And after conversion, so yeah, 20:09 so the kids keep me motivated absolutely and-- 20:12 Yes. And oh, it's been awesome. 20:14 You know, my boy was colic. Yes. 20:19 So there was three months of him being colic. 20:21 I'm wiped out and, you know, again it's my wife, 20:24 I just feel so sorry for my wife. 20:26 And again my family was awesome through the whole thing 20:29 but you know, so we didn't get along very well 20:31 those first three to four months, me and the boy. 20:34 And, but now it's so-- it's different now, 20:39 its-- he really did help me-- 20:41 What about the family? Okay, 'cause here you are. 20:44 You made a transition from not really caring 20:49 to know God intimately. 20:52 And then you read that transition to know Him. 20:56 What about family members and old friends as you know? 21:00 Yeah, that's very interesting I still, you know, 21:03 old friends, I'm still kind of reaching out to you 21:06 and stuff like that and my family as well. 21:09 You know, my family, it's very interesting they-- 21:14 they look at me and I say again, 21:17 I say this very humbly, they look at me with-- 21:20 they don't want to... 21:25 become fully converted but when there is 21:28 a religious question or a question about God, 21:30 they do come to me. 21:31 And you know, my sister is married into 21:35 other denomination into Catholicism and stuff 21:37 and they don't do that with them. 21:41 But they do-- they come to me with those questions 21:45 and stuff like that. 21:46 So it's almost like I've become 21:47 the religious leader of the family. 21:49 But you know, so I'm still working with those. 21:53 So you take a lot of pride 21:56 and being able to help your family 21:59 and also time, you value every minute? 22:02 Absolutely. Absolutely. 22:03 Yeah, I mean, again we have such, you know, 22:07 such a short time here and I guess that's what really was 22:10 brought to my attention with the disease, right. 22:13 I mean that's brought to your attention, so yeah, 22:16 we have such a short time here and what are we doing with it? 22:19 You know, we're watching TV shows 22:21 and we're doing all these other things 22:23 that are just absolutely frivolous 22:24 and we don't have a time for that. 22:27 So again you get those down days, don't get me wrong. 22:31 I don't want to sit here and give this idea 22:34 that I'm just out there all the time but-- 22:36 you get those down days but ultimately 22:38 you don't have time for them. 22:39 So that's-- that's the goal I guess. 22:42 You know, I appreciate the fact that we're able 22:45 in our Christian counseling practice in Detroit. 22:48 We're able to pray with our clients, 22:50 pray with our families and couples, wherever we go. 22:53 We're also the family life leaders 22:54 of the Lake Region Conference. 22:56 So we have over 125 churches in our district 23:01 and we're-- we're just blessed. 23:02 And we're elated to serve and you are right. 23:06 I was driving today and I saw a man with a sign, 23:09 I work for food. 23:11 And five, ten cars passing by, it's not my place to judge 'em. 23:16 And I reached over in my glove compartment 23:18 and I reached out a dollar and I gave it to him 23:21 and he says thank you so much. 23:23 All God wants us to do is to serve, when someone cries, 23:27 and I say God bless you because the Bible says 23:29 angels come into skies 23:32 and we are to be hospitable to all people. 23:35 And you are right, we don't have time 23:37 to waste on frivolous things. 23:40 We need to be working, ministering, writing, 23:44 you know, preparing our family-- 23:45 Absolutely. 23:46 For the Lord you know, to come because if not we-- you know, 23:51 all the people we could have saved and witness to 23:54 God as opportunities are coming our way, John. 23:57 Absolutely. 23:58 And we cannot let them surpass us. 23:59 You know, you always find some excuse, right. 24:02 I can remember saying if I didn't work full time, 24:04 imagine how much more work I could do for the Lord. 24:06 You know, and here I am without that full time job now 24:10 and so I have to put my-- you know, 24:13 the money where my mouth is so to speak. 24:14 And so I've been doing a lot of that volunteering, 24:16 I could do so much more but again like you said 24:19 we just-- and every, every second counts. 24:22 And I'm grateful for, you know, 24:24 3ABN Dare to Dream and Quiet Moment Ministry 24:26 because, you know, what, this is opportunity 24:28 for Arthur and I to serve and work for the Lord. 24:31 Because we didn't have to accept this call, John, 24:33 I mean, this is very demanding 24:36 and we have extremely busy schedules. 24:38 But again Ray and Debbie Young, 24:42 Quiet Moment Ministry saw something special in us 24:45 and referred us. 24:47 And when the call came I said, 24:50 oh, I have been praying-- are you ready for this? 24:53 30 years. Wow. 24:55 For this had come to pass. 24:56 If you are faithful to God, He is faithful to you. 25:00 And He will bring it to pass. He will bring it to fruition. 25:03 And I believe, John, with everything I have in you, 25:05 I see it in your eyes 25:06 when you talk about your wife and children. 25:09 God has healed you, not you're going to be healed 25:12 but God has healed you. 25:13 One of the things that I'm interested in, 25:15 if I-- I know in you past lifestyle, 25:18 you even mentioned that you wanted to be a rock star. 25:22 So apparently you are musically inclined? 25:25 No. 25:27 That was just one of your goals, you know, 25:31 one of the things you thought about. 25:33 You know, and when you were a coming up and growing up. 25:36 Do you sing? 25:37 I-- so the type of band I was in, I was in a-- 25:40 I guess you would call a punk, hardcore type band. 25:45 So you don't have to-- you don't have to sing real well. 25:48 I was the front man but you don't have to sing real well 25:52 and I played for a while. 25:54 I played the base for a while and but again I can't read, 25:57 I do not read music. 25:59 And so we made our own songs and we went that so-- 26:03 so when you say I'm musically inclined, I sometimes say no. 26:05 Yeah. 26:06 But it wasn't something that I could bring over 26:10 I guess basically. 26:11 All right. 26:12 But this-- the things that you can remember 26:16 from that experience, you know, 26:19 and the things that you've gone through. 26:22 I mean, it must be really riveting for you 26:27 that here you are dealing with this disease. 26:31 And your life is changing before your eyes, 26:34 and God is there to move you forward you know, 26:38 but how do you really become so motivated? 26:43 I know God is involved but what else motivates you? 26:45 You know, honestly I have to give the praise to God. 26:51 I really do. 26:52 God is what motivates me. 26:53 Honestly, I mean, there is nothing from this earth-- 26:57 you know, again just like my family and my children 26:59 and all that obviously too. 27:01 My children motivate me, my wife motivates me 27:04 and but ultimately none of that would motivate me, 27:07 if it wasn't for God. 27:08 It is God and God alone that does truly motivate, 27:12 keep going and you know, when I go for the treatments 27:14 at the hospital. 27:18 I was known as the one with guy with his Bible. 27:20 You know, what I mean-- Right. 27:21 You know, that is really what helped me. 27:24 I've seen the opposite, the people that come in, 27:26 they don't have God. 27:27 They are miserable, they are so miserable 27:30 and again I don't say they're like 27:32 oh, well, you know what I mean like, I want, 27:35 you know, you want to help them too. 27:36 You want them to know God because sometimes 27:39 you don't see Him come back. 27:40 And you just wonder, if they just gave up 27:42 basically you know. 27:44 And that's why you are still fighting. 27:45 Yeah. 27:46 Well, John, we're down to our last few seconds 27:49 and all we can say is that we are praying for you. 27:52 Hold on, someone out there today, 27:55 maybe in the same situation. 27:56 Keep fighting, keep believing and have hope and faith. 28:00 Thank you, John, so much for coming on telling your story. 28:02 We really appreciate you. 28:03 We appreciate you and God bless you and your family. 28:05 Yes. 28:06 I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin. I'm Arthur Nowlin. 28:08 God bless. |
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