Participants: Arthur Nowlin (Host), Dr Kim Logan-Nowlin (Host), Sandy Weaver
Series Code: MIW
Program Code: MIW000018
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00:01 Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin. And I'm Arthur Nowlin.
00:04 Welcome to "Making it Work." 00:38 Welcome back to "Making it work." 00:40 Arthur, you know in today's society 00:42 men and women are suffering with cancer. 00:46 Yes. 00:47 It is impacting the entire family, 00:49 it impacts the church and impacts family live. 00:53 Well, today we wanted to talk about "Why Not Me?" 00:56 Because a lot of times people say, why me God? 00:59 They question God. 01:00 Have you ever questioned God, Arthur? 01:03 Yes, I can honestly say I have especially 01:06 when you go through trials and tribulations. 01:09 But you know that's a good topic 01:11 "Why Not Me?" 01:12 Why not me? 01:14 You know, I had to think about that sometimes too. 01:16 So this should be pretty interesting. 01:17 It's gonna be very interesting. 01:19 Today joining us on "Making it Work" 01:22 we have a very unique story because it is her story. 01:25 Her name is Sandy Weaver. Welcome to "Making it Work." 01:28 Welcome. Thank you. 01:29 We are so honored and privileged 01:31 to have to here today. 01:33 Well, Sandy, why don't you tell our viewers your unique story 01:37 and what has happened to you? 01:39 Well, September 11 is a day when the United States, 01:44 you know, is suffering because of tragic loss. 01:49 Well, my September 2011 was when my life changed. 01:55 I was diagnosed with ovarian cancer 02:00 but it was in the first stage. 02:02 There's four stages to cancer and it was in the first stage. 02:05 And the doctor told me that it was rare 02:09 to find ovarian cancer in the first stage. 02:13 So my prognosis was good. Yes. 02:16 Which oh, my, I was grateful, very, very grateful. 02:20 But, you know, the word cancer 02:23 is a word that you don't like to hear. 02:28 And so when this happened to me 02:31 in September my husband was in India. 02:34 He had just gone for a trip in India 02:36 and on Sabbath I started having severe abdominal pain. 02:40 And so after church I asked my eldest daughter 02:43 to take me down to the emergency room 02:45 downtown Detroit 02:46 because there was something wrong. 02:48 Yes. 02:49 And so we went to the emergency room at Harper 02:56 because that's where my husband works down at Harper. 02:58 So they did the diagnostic test, 03:03 they admitted me that night 03:05 and my daughter started texting my husband in India. 03:09 So he got a plane and turned around and came back. 03:11 So he was back by Tuesday noon. 03:15 Tuesday noon. 03:17 And that's when he went and talked to all my doctors 03:20 and found out that I had ovarian cancer 03:23 that was the diagnosis. 03:25 Well, then he told me that I had ovarian cancer 03:28 and I thought well, my sister-in-law 03:34 had been diagnosed with ovarian cancer 03:37 and hers was in the forth stage. 03:39 They missed it many, many times in diagnosis 03:41 because it is very evasive and it's hard to diagnose 03:45 because there's a lot of symptoms 03:47 that could be something else. 03:49 That's right. 03:50 But I didn't know that I had a cancer. 03:54 I knew that I had ovarian cysts and I had been watching them. 03:57 But since I was taking care of my mother in my home 04:00 I sort of let things slide and I didn't go to the doctor. 04:03 So when this happened I got flat on my back 04:08 but till when my husband came back he told me the diagnosis. 04:10 I had lots of good doctors and the specialist 04:14 that did my surgery two and a half days later 04:17 that's all-- that's that how long I had to worry. 04:20 Two and a half days. 04:21 Two and a half days is all I had to worry 04:23 because God just orchestrated everything, 04:27 everything I needed was there. 04:29 The-- the GYN oncologist was my surgeon. 04:35 And he had worked with my husband. 04:36 They worked together on some cases 04:39 when it has to do with the abdomen. 04:41 I wish your husband's specialty. 04:43 He's our general surgeon. 04:45 He's the chairman of the department 04:47 at Harper Hospital. 04:49 Now-- The GMC. 04:51 You have-- you're married to a physician, 04:53 you become ill, your husband's in India. 04:56 You know, but you did something where a lot of people don't do. 05:00 They ignore symptoms. They ignore when things hit. 05:04 Yeah, but she was keen into it. Yes, because-- 05:07 We could not ignore its pain. 05:10 That's was so devastated. 05:11 It was very, very, very severe and so when they did the test 05:14 and then they found out what was wrong. 05:16 I only had as I say two and half days 05:18 just lay there and worry. 05:20 And then I had the surgery and then the recovery 05:23 and then I went through six treatments of chemo 05:26 every 21 days. 05:28 I had chemo treatments. 05:33 The horror stories that you hear about people 05:36 who had chemo, you know, 05:39 that was the first thing in my mind 05:41 but I also knew that God was in control 05:43 and I said to God the day before surgery, 05:48 well, I'm going to go through this 05:51 but I know that You'll be there with me 05:53 because You promised never to leave me. 05:55 That's right. 05:56 He promised never to-- 05:57 and I, you know, the why not me. 05:59 Yes. 06:00 That was an important thing to me 06:01 because in April of 2011 one of elders preached a sermon 06:07 and he himself has myeloma. 06:11 So he had to have treatment and chemo 06:13 and all that's kind of stuff. 06:14 He told his story that day in April 06:17 and now this is in September 06:19 and so I'm saying the same thing. 06:21 Well, why not me? I have insurance. 06:24 I have a family. I have good doctors. 06:27 I have a church family that loves me. 06:30 Prayer is powerful. Yes, it is. 06:33 And I-- there were people praying for me 06:36 all over the place and they are still telling me 06:38 that they are still praying for me. 06:39 I said well, keep it up. I need it. 06:40 Keep it up. That's right. 06:41 So during this time-- just by you are expressing 06:45 those feelings gave me the impression 06:48 that you was determine 06:50 to really overcome this situation. 06:52 Oh, absolutely. 06:53 God can do anything 06:55 and if that's what He had for me to do to overcome it 06:58 then I would be much more empathetic, 07:00 much more patient, 07:02 much more willing to let Him be in charge. 07:06 How did your children over come this? 07:08 Oh, my children were fabulous. Okay. 07:11 One was in school in Tennessee 07:13 and she flew home when I had the surgery. 07:15 She says mom, I have to come. I said its fine. 07:17 We'll pay for your ticket to come 07:20 but my children both are married. 07:22 The two older ones are married and live in the area 07:25 and so they took turns coming and staying at my house. 07:29 Oh, okay. 07:30 Because I had my mother plus me now to take care off. 07:34 And they cooked and they took care of me 07:40 and you know just-- they just oversaw my household. 07:46 Now let's go back to what you were saying 07:49 about the chemo itself. 07:51 How people have so many horror stories behind it? 07:54 You know, that you I mean, suffered all 07:57 while you were going through these treatments? 07:59 Well, the chemo itself, the advance treatment 08:05 that they have now which is 08:08 so much milder than it used to be. 08:10 I mean lot of the horror stories were from years ago. 08:13 And yes there are horror stories now too 08:15 and people don't mind telling their horror stories. 08:18 But I don't like to hear them because I know that you know, 08:21 God is a loving God and He cares very much for me 08:25 and that He will sustain me through 08:27 whatever I have to go through. 08:28 And that's what that preached the guy said in his sermon 08:32 that you know, why not me? 08:35 I have everything in place. I even have insurance. 08:39 I mean, that was something 08:40 that I was staggered at the prices of surgeries 08:43 and all these kind of stuff. 08:45 The chemo treatments I was staggered at the prices. 08:48 And to be able to have it and insurance pay for it 08:54 was just-- it was just incredible. 08:57 So God was in the midst. 08:58 God is in the midst. He's has never left me. 09:01 And when you say prayer uplifts 09:04 it's something that you cannot describe. 09:07 I can hardly describe it because it is so uplifting. 09:11 You feel uplifted all the time. 09:14 Now you said, you went to church 09:16 and when that elder spoke 09:19 and he talks about his situation and his cancer. 09:23 Prior to you going there, 09:25 I mean, were you dealing with depression and all? 09:28 I had some depression just from-- 09:32 I inherited some of it. Okay. 09:34 My father was on medication for 50 years for his depression 09:41 and so but I don't think it got much worse my kids think it did 09:47 but I don't because, 09:52 I just feel like God took care of me. 09:55 Amen. Excellent. 09:56 And He continues to take care of me. 09:58 And so far I didn't have any the surgery showed 10:02 that I didn't have any psychology 10:07 that was positive after the surgery. 10:09 Oh, excellent. 10:10 And my CT scans have been negative and so. 10:13 I prayed for-- you know I prayed for healing 10:16 and I feel that God has healed me. 10:18 If not He's still in control. 10:22 Now you remember at the Oakwood Seventh-day 10:24 Adventist church in Taylor, Michigan. 10:26 Have you told this testimony in church? 10:29 No. Okay. 10:31 I'm told that they want me to do it but I haven't yet. 10:34 Okay. 10:35 I'm three months post chemo so-- 10:37 Okay. Oh. 10:39 You know, some of the-- the weakness that you deal with 10:43 and some of the-- I still don't take walks out on the street 10:48 because I'm-- I'm little unsteady 10:50 and my weight and everything 10:52 but my strength is improving and I'm-- I'm encouraged. 10:57 So I'm not discouraged. 10:59 Are you taking a lot of medications? 11:00 No. Okay, excellent. 11:02 I just take my regular medication 11:04 that I took before I had cancer 11:06 and take an extra iron pill and some vitamins. 11:09 Well. That's great. 11:11 Now let's talk about your faith. 11:13 The Bible says 11:15 "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, 11:18 the evidence of things not seen." 11:20 And Sandy you sound like, 11:22 you know, verse number 6, verse 6, 11:24 "He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." 11:28 Let's talk about faith, 11:29 how did faith play a role in this? 11:31 Well, without it, without hope. Yes. 11:35 There's just-- there's without hope 11:39 it's just hopeless you know. 11:42 But my situation is not hopeless, 11:45 I have the faith that God can heal, 11:49 that He will heal 11:50 if it's to His honor and to His glory. 11:53 So I don't believe that He is gonna heal somebody 11:55 that's just gonna go off and forget about Him. 11:59 I mean, I think that God heals because it gives Him glory. 12:02 Oh, believe that. Yes. 12:04 Everything has to be about God's glory. 12:06 Exactly. Yes. 12:07 And this is really something that I'm really keen into 12:14 and my reason for it is 12:16 as my mom died from ovarian cancer. 12:19 Your mom? 12:20 Yes, and this is when-- when I was a child of seven. 12:22 I was gonna say years ago. Yeah. 12:24 It was a lot different. And it was. 12:25 I could remember visiting her in a hospital. 12:28 And I can remember the doctors always being there 12:31 because she was in so much pain 12:33 and when they tried to use the different medications 12:37 and a different new techniques it really did more damage 12:41 than really assisted her, you know. 12:43 Well, my sister-in-law died two months 12:48 after I started my treatment. 12:50 Oh. 12:51 So I had that to deal with too and you know, all of the-- 12:57 I almost felt guilty that my cancer was in the first stage 13:01 and I wasn't gonna go on her path. 13:04 I didn't have to travel her path. 13:05 So I'm so grateful for that and love all other things. 13:10 I know you are. I can imagine. 13:12 Let me ask you, in your walk with Christ is it crucial-- 13:18 how important is time in His word? 13:21 How important is that to you? 13:23 Well, I've been a little relax, I'll be-- I admit it. 13:27 But when I-- when I do, do it, 13:33 it makes my day go better. 13:35 And it gives you hope? I have hope. 13:37 You have the hope. 13:38 I have the hope. You already have hope. 13:39 I just need to spend time and I-- I'm working on that. 13:47 So, Sandy, what are your other aspiration? 13:50 I mean, do you like to gardened, are you chef? 13:54 What are you-- what else do you do as a hobby? 13:55 Well, I-- my name's Sandra means 13:58 industries one or helpful to man. 14:00 I've always been a professional volunteer. 14:04 Whenever there was something going out at church 14:06 or at the school, I was there. 14:08 They need Sandy to do. Yeah. 14:09 Yeah. 14:10 But Sandy's can't do that but she's passed the torch on. 14:14 I'm in the mentor stage, I mentor people. 14:16 That's lovely. 14:18 I think it's my job now to mentor and to help. 14:22 And to help, always wanted to help. 14:23 Continue help. 14:24 But I can't always do the heavy work anymore. 14:27 Okay. Can't do it. 14:29 Like we're into vacation Bible school now 14:30 and I couldn't do what I had done in the past. 14:33 So I'm playing the piano in prayer. 14:35 Oh, that's nice. 14:36 Then I love seeing the little one sing. 14:37 So you play the piano? 14:38 Yeah, I-- oh, yes. 14:40 I play, I sing, I play the organ. 14:42 I play hand bells. 14:43 You know I've been involved 14:44 in a lot of musical aspects of the church 14:46 but since I had cancer 14:48 I haven't been able to attend and do that. 14:50 So hopefully this fall, 14:51 once things start up I'll be able to. 14:54 How long, how many years in marriage? 14:56 Forty two. Forty two years of marriage. 14:58 And when we're just talking before we started taping 15:01 how you met your husband at Adelphian Academy. 15:03 And Adelphian Academy is a Seventh-day Adventist 15:07 boarding school that was located Holly, Michigan. 15:10 And I also attended there with Sandy's sister-in-law Susan 15:14 and Brian we-- you know, we were family. 15:18 I remember when I was a young girl 15:21 and your father-in-law would come, was it smoking Sam? 15:25 Stop smoking clinics. Yes. 15:26 That's still doing them. He is? 15:28 He is 89-years-old and he's still does 15:31 that smoking clinics at least once or twice a year. 15:33 He would have come to Barns 15:35 and some of the area churches in Detroit helped mil-- 15:39 I know thousands of people because of the knowledge 15:43 and to see that mechanism. 15:45 You would have to see, it was amazing. 15:48 You know 89 years of age and still going strong. 15:51 Yes. That is a blessing. 15:53 As soon as you've been tested 15:58 and the Lord has blessed you what are some of the things 16:02 that you intend to do at this point in your life? 16:06 Well, every chance I can I give Him the glory. 16:09 But I'm-- I'm going to get back into my music things. 16:14 And there as I say mentoring, 16:18 there's a lot of that that needs to be done. 16:20 There's a lot of young people coming up, 16:21 I love the young people. 16:24 The school Oakwood Academy, where the children at-- 16:28 where our children attended. 16:30 We-- my husband was one of the visionaries 16:33 for Oakwood Academy 16:34 and I'm planning on working with the alumni 16:37 and to do some fund raising. 16:40 Excellent, Excellent. It's a blessing. 16:42 Let me ask, what could you tell someone 16:46 that may have been recently diagnosed? 16:50 Not like ovarian cancer but any cancer that you know, 16:54 what kind of encouragement could you give them? 16:59 Well, first of all they need to know the Lord. 17:02 It they know the Lord then their hope is in the Lord. 17:05 And you know the song "We Have His Hope." 17:07 Yeah. 17:08 It is definitely that's where our hope is it's in Jesus. 17:12 And whatever we have to go through He promises, 17:18 there are so many promises in the Bible. 17:20 And He promises that He will never forsake us, 17:23 He'll always be there 17:27 and He will put people in our path 17:29 and I pray that God will put people on my path 17:31 that I could be a witness too. 17:33 And I tried to not miss those opportunities. 17:38 They're everywhere. 17:40 I mean people are hurting, say a kind word. 17:45 You know, like they're telling the little kids 17:48 in vacation Bible school, 17:49 go home and tell your friends that Jesus loves them. 17:52 Jesus does love us. 17:53 A smile, a kind word as Sandy says, 17:58 can go a long way to encourage someone. 18:01 Have you been back to any support groups, 18:03 are you in a support group? 18:05 No, I'm not. I'm not. 18:08 I decided that that was something 18:10 that I really didn't want to get into. 18:11 All right. 18:15 I felt like my family 18:16 and my church were big support to me 18:18 and so that it didn't really need to go 18:20 and cry on somebody else's shoulder 18:22 because I wasn't crying. 18:23 I was rejoicing. You were rejoicing. 18:26 I was rejoicing? And why should you rejoice? 18:29 Again going back to why not me but why shouldn't I rejoice 18:33 and the Lord truly answered your prayers 18:36 and the prayers of the righteous 18:37 availed it much. 18:39 And see and this is why it's so important 18:41 when we go to a battle with Jesus Christ 18:43 or we go through something a struggle. 18:46 James 1:8 says, 18:47 "The double minded man is unstable in all his ways." 18:50 If you're going to believe God is going to heal you. 18:53 You got to stand on that 18:55 and you cannot waiver in that faith. 18:57 You have to be solid 18:59 and you have to be sure in your heart and in your mind 19:03 that what God says God means. 19:05 Right. And you cannot question that. 19:08 All right, if I say, if I've changed 19:11 that now to whatever God has for me to do. 19:13 Oh. 19:14 Okay, I would do it. Whatever. 19:17 I think of we were reading in Paul 19:20 and it might have been in Chronicles 19:21 and he was talking about 19:22 you need to tell your testimony 19:25 and to witness. 19:26 He encourages that-- In Corinthians. 19:28 Yes, in Corinthians and I think that is so important 19:31 as I was reading this I really became motivated, 19:36 you now, to share those trials and tribulations 19:39 that we go through and talk to others 19:42 to have them share their trials and tribulations. 19:44 I agree with that and I-- 19:47 when I was then getting a CT scan 19:51 this is after all the chemo treatments 19:52 I was getting my follow up. 19:54 And one of the ladies that was in there was so tearful. 19:58 She was just so tearful and another one came in there 20:02 just she was higher than a kite. 20:04 She was just complaining about everything 20:08 but you know, but she was very positive about her health 20:11 and the other one was crying and so I said, 20:14 do you have a church that you attend? 20:16 You know, is there do you know the Lord 20:18 I mean, Jesus loves you and He cares about you. 20:20 And I said I've been through this treatment. 20:23 And she says, oh, you lose you hair 20:26 and you lose this and you lose that. 20:27 I said, yeah, that's all part of the treatment. 20:30 But you know it's possible to make it and here I am, 20:35 I've done it only 20:38 because the God has brought me through it. 20:40 And so I said, you know, do you have 20:42 a church community or church family? 20:45 Does your family support you 20:46 and so we talked about all those things. 20:48 So I felt good about that. 20:49 Yeah, you're witnessing right there. 20:50 I witness right there in the CT scan. 20:53 You were. So whatever-- 20:55 So it's-- I wanted just do it wherever God leads me? 20:57 Wherever God leads you. 20:59 Now your mom still-- she's still-- 21:00 No, she went to live with my sister 21:03 and she has since passed but she passed off you know, 21:06 she didn't have any major diseases. 21:08 Just a little Alzheimer's and dementia 21:10 and she died peacefully in her 21:12 sleep with all of us around her. 21:13 Singing hymns. Singing hymns. 21:15 That means God close hymns. 21:17 She was singing up to 24 hours before she died. 21:19 She sang with us. Really? 21:22 Yes. Isn't that a blessing? 21:24 It was a true blessing, you know. 21:25 So now that you-- you've gone through this 21:28 and you're mentoring 21:30 and you know a 42 years of marriage, 21:32 your children are doing well. 21:34 Any grandchildren? Six. 21:35 Oh, you got to snug that in there, Sandy. 21:37 Six, you know. Oh, my goodness. 21:40 You are beautiful, you are great. 21:41 I'm blessed. I'm totally blessed. 21:43 Totally blessed, you know. 21:45 So being able to have six beautiful grandchildren 21:48 and being able to see the God's glory just-- 21:51 Absolutely. 21:52 You know, manifest themselves. Absolutely. 21:54 Through you, you know, being so transparent. 21:57 Why are you so trans-- 21:58 why are you just telling this, why? 22:01 Why are you here to do this? 22:07 Because it happened to me 22:08 and it's happening to other people. 22:11 And so if there's something I can say 22:15 that they can find peace because I have peace. 22:22 Believe it or not I have peace. 22:25 I see that. I feel that. 22:27 I'm not-- I'm not anxious. 22:31 One of the things that you talked about 22:33 and you referred to on a couple occasions, 22:36 as you were talking to us. 22:38 You talked about your insurance and how that poured you though. 22:44 How do you get to a point 22:46 where those who may not be as fortunate as you, 22:50 you know, who may not have the insurance. 22:53 How do you encourage them? Because-- 22:55 Well, I have a friend. Okay. 22:57 Who was one of my caregivers for my mother, 23:01 she would come in every day and help with my mom 23:04 and do some of her things that needed to be done. 23:08 And we would have worship every morning together with her 23:12 and she just loved that. 23:14 Well, after I was diagnosed with cancer 23:17 and had my surgery and everything. 23:20 She comes up and tells me that she has colon cancer 23:24 and she has spots on her liver. 23:26 So she already has metastasis. 23:29 She doesn't have any insurance. 23:32 So what do I tell her? 23:35 She went to live with her sister, 23:37 her sister is helping her tremendously. 23:42 She went to a doctor 23:44 and they're finding funding for her. 23:48 She hasn't had her surgery yet but she has chemo 23:51 and she uses some natural remedies of fruits 23:56 and vegetable juices fresh for things 23:59 and hers is receding. 24:02 Excellent. 24:04 So I mean, I have experience with, with that to with people 24:10 who don't have the insurance and I just pray with them. 24:14 You know, we talk every once in a while 24:15 and I send her some night gowns of my moms. 24:19 And you know, we some things over 24:21 and she doesn't-- she goes to church. 24:24 She still goes to church. 24:25 She'd goes to the Farmington Seventh-Day Adventist Church. 24:28 She says, I go and she inspired me 24:32 because she'll go and she'll lay down on the bench 24:35 just to be in church. 24:36 Okay. 24:38 Just have a little piece of church. 24:43 That's comforting to her. 24:44 I think no one you know. Yeah. 24:46 Here I didn't go to church because I had a, 24:49 you know, ache in my leg or something. 24:50 She goes, she can't even sit up 24:55 but she goes to church and lays on the pew 24:57 and they don't mind 'cause she's there. 24:58 Because she is there. 25:00 So I mean, there's examples of that in my life too. 25:08 You know-- 25:09 Your relationship with the Lord apparently increased 25:13 you know, after the victory. 25:16 Well, my dependent. 25:18 I'm dependent. Okay. 25:20 I'm very dependent. That's a excellent way of-- 25:22 On Jesus. You know. 25:23 I'm very dependent. 25:24 They are depending on the Lord. Yeah. 25:26 And I'm not independent. I can't do it myself. 25:30 When you talk about faith and hope 25:32 and someone right now viewing "Making it Work," 25:35 maybe saying I can't make it. 25:38 I don't have insurance, I don't have any money. 25:39 I don't have family I don't support. 25:42 I don't have a church family but you do have Jesus. 25:46 God will never leave you or forsake you no matter 25:51 what you have to endure. 25:53 And maybe you know in the second, 25:55 third or forth stage may not be in the first stage. 25:58 It may not be able to be turned around 26:01 but one thing is for sure that if you give your life to Jesus, 26:07 He will make things all right, no matter what. 26:10 And another thing that I think its important 26:13 is that it's significant for each and everyone of us 26:17 to hold on to the Lord. 26:19 Absolutely. 26:20 When we get to a point, 26:22 when we feel that there is no one 26:24 that's going to understand the Lord understands. 26:28 And that's where we reach out to. 26:30 And Sandy, you recognized 26:33 that you needed to strengthen your faith 26:35 and that's really important because many of us 26:39 will become so tied up with the illness itself 26:45 that we don't really recognize that it's more to the illness 26:49 that we can over come this illness if we have faith 26:52 and if we have a relationship with the Lord. 26:54 Well, even if we don't overcome-- 26:57 I mean, if the illness takes us and we perish. 27:02 We still know that God loves us. 27:03 Yes. He didn't planned for sin. 27:07 I mean planned for in the salvation 27:09 because He send His son. 27:11 But he didn't want us to be ill. 27:13 It's not His plan for us to be ill. 27:14 That's right. He wants us to be well. 27:16 When we're well, we have more energy to use in his service 27:20 and that's what we need to be doing. 27:24 All right. Okay, you go on. 27:25 I think the overcoming 27:27 is basically releasing those negatives feelings 27:31 and developing a relationship with God 27:33 so you can accept whatever happens. 27:36 Yes. You know. 27:38 It says you know, it's like you pray in His will. 27:41 It's not His will for us to be ill. 27:42 Absolutely. 27:43 But it's will for us to trust Him. 27:45 And to trust. 27:47 And you know it takes me to that hymn, " 27:49 Trust and obey, for there's no other way. 27:52 To be happy in Jesus, but to trust and obey." 27:55 Amen. You want to sing? 27:56 Oh, listen, well, we're out of time. 27:59 But, Sandy Weaver, thank you 28:01 so much for telling yours story, 28:03 your unique story. 28:05 And we praise God for your life, the testimony 28:09 and to you today know that God is with you. 28:12 Well, Arthur, I thank God for your life. 28:14 Thank you God. 28:15 I'm thing for your life all the time. 28:17 And praise God. 28:18 Well, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin. I'm Arthur Nowlin. 28:21 Thank you for joining us on "Making it Work." 28:24 God bless. |
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