Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin.
And I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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Welcome to "Making it Work."
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Welcome back to
"Making it work."
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Arthur, you know
in today's society
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men and women are
suffering with cancer.
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Yes.
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It is impacting
the entire family,
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it impacts the church
and impacts family live.
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Well, today we wanted
to talk about "Why Not Me?"
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Because a lot of times
people say, why me God?
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They question God.
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Have you ever
questioned God, Arthur?
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Yes, I can honestly
say I have especially
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when you go through
trials and tribulations.
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But you know that's a good topic
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"Why Not Me?"
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Why not me?
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You know, I had to think
about that sometimes too.
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So this should be
pretty interesting.
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It's gonna be very interesting.
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Today joining us
on "Making it Work"
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we have a very unique
story because it is her story.
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Her name is Sandy Weaver.
Welcome to "Making it Work."
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Welcome. Thank you.
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We are so honored and privileged
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to have to here today.
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Well, Sandy, why don't you tell
our viewers your unique story
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and what has happened to you?
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Well, September 11 is a
day when the United States,
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you know, is suffering
because of tragic loss.
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Well, my September 2011
was when my life changed.
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I was diagnosed
with ovarian cancer
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but it was in the first stage.
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There's four stages to cancer
and it was in the first stage.
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And the doctor
told me that it was rare
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to find ovarian
cancer in the first stage.
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So my prognosis was good. Yes.
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Which oh, my, I was
grateful, very, very grateful.
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But, you know, the word cancer
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is a word that you
don't like to hear.
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And so when this happened to me
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in September my
husband was in India.
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He had just gone
for a trip in India
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and on Sabbath I started
having severe abdominal pain.
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And so after church I
asked my eldest daughter
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to take me down
to the emergency room
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downtown Detroit
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because there
was something wrong.
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Yes.
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And so we went to the
emergency room at Harper
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because that's where my
husband works down at Harper.
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So they did the diagnostic test,
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they admitted me that night
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and my daughter started
texting my husband in India.
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So he got a plane and
turned around and came back.
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So he was back by Tuesday noon.
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Tuesday noon.
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And that's when he went
and talked to all my doctors
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and found out that
I had ovarian cancer
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that was the diagnosis.
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Well, then he told me
that I had ovarian cancer
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and I thought
well, my sister-in-law
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had been diagnosed
with ovarian cancer
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and hers was in the forth stage.
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They missed it many,
many times in diagnosis
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because it is very evasive
and it's hard to diagnose
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because there's
a lot of symptoms
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that could be something else.
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That's right.
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But I didn't know
that I had a cancer.
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I knew that I had ovarian cysts
and I had been watching them.
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But since I was taking
care of my mother in my home
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I sort of let things slide
and I didn't go to the doctor.
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So when this
happened I got flat on my back
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but till when my husband came
back he told me the diagnosis.
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I had lots of good
doctors and the specialist
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that did my surgery
two and a half days later
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that's all-- that's
that how long I had to worry.
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Two and a half days.
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Two and a half days
is all I had to worry
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because God just
orchestrated everything,
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everything I needed was there.
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The-- the GYN
oncologist was my surgeon.
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And he had
worked with my husband.
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They worked
together on some cases
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when it has to
do with the abdomen.
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I wish your husband's specialty.
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He's our general surgeon.
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He's the
chairman of the department
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at Harper Hospital.
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Now-- The GMC.
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You have-- you're
married to a physician,
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you become ill,
your husband's in India.
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You know, but you did something
where a lot of people don't do.
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They ignore symptoms.
They ignore when things hit.
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Yeah, but she was keen
into it. Yes, because--
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We could not ignore its pain.
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That's was so devastated.
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It was very, very, very severe
and so when they did the test
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and then they
found out what was wrong.
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I only had as I
say two and half days
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just lay there and worry.
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And then I had the
surgery and then the recovery
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and then I went
through six treatments of chemo
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every 21 days.
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I had chemo treatments.
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The horror stories
that you hear about people
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who had chemo, you know,
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that was the
first thing in my mind
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but I also knew
that God was in control
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and I said to God
the day before surgery,
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well, I'm going
to go through this
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but I know that
You'll be there with me
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because You
promised never to leave me.
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That's right.
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He promised never to--
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and I, you know, the why not me.
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Yes.
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That was an
important thing to me
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because in April of 2011
one of elders preached a sermon
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and he himself has myeloma.
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So he had to have
treatment and chemo
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and all that's kind of stuff.
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He told his
story that day in April
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and now this is in September
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and so I'm
saying the same thing.
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Well, why not
me? I have insurance.
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I have a family.
I have good doctors.
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I have a church
family that loves me.
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Prayer is powerful. Yes, it is.
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And I-- there were
people praying for me
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all over the place and
they are still telling me
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that they are
still praying for me.
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I said well,
keep it up. I need it.
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Keep it up. That's right.
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So during this time--
just by you are expressing
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those feelings
gave me the impression
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that you was determine
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to really
overcome this situation.
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Oh, absolutely.
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God can do anything
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and if that's what He had
for me to do to overcome it
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then I would be
much more empathetic,
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much more patient,
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much more willing to
let Him be in charge.
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How did your
children over come this?
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Oh, my children
were fabulous. Okay.
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One was in school in Tennessee
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and she flew home
when I had the surgery.
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She says mom, I have
to come. I said its fine.
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We'll pay for
your ticket to come
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but my children
both are married.
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The two older ones are
married and live in the area
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and so they took turns
coming and staying at my house.
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Oh, okay.
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Because I had my mother
plus me now to take care off.
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And they cooked and
they took care of me
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and you know just-- they
just oversaw my household.
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Now let's go back
to what you were saying
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about the chemo itself.
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How people have so many
horror stories behind it?
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You know, that you
I mean, suffered all
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while you were going
through these treatments?
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Well, the chemo
itself, the advance treatment
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that they have now which is
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so much milder
than it used to be.
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I mean lot of the horror
stories were from years ago.
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And yes there are
horror stories now too
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and people don't mind
telling their horror stories.
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But I don't like to hear them
because I know that you know,
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God is a loving God and
He cares very much for me
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and that He will
sustain me through
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whatever I have to go through.
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And that's what that preached
the guy said in his sermon
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that you know, why not me?
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I have everything in
place. I even have insurance.
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I mean, that was something
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that I was staggered
at the prices of surgeries
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and all these kind of stuff.
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The chemo treatments I
was staggered at the prices.
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And to be able to have
it and insurance pay for it
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was just-- it
was just incredible.
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So God was in the midst.
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God is in the midst.
He's has never left me.
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And when you say prayer uplifts
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it's something that
you cannot describe.
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I can hardly describe it
because it is so uplifting.
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You feel uplifted all the time.
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Now you said, you went to church
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and when that elder spoke
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and he talks about his
situation and his cancer.
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Prior to you going there,
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I mean, were you
dealing with depression and all?
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I had some
depression just from--
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I inherited some of it. Okay.
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My father was on medication
for 50 years for his depression
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and so but I don't think it got
much worse my kids think it did
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but I don't because,
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I just feel like
God took care of me.
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Amen. Excellent.
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And He continues
to take care of me.
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And so far I didn't
have any the surgery showed
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that I didn't
have any psychology
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that was positive
after the surgery.
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Oh, excellent.
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And my CT scans have
been negative and so.
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I prayed for-- you
know I prayed for healing
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and I feel that
God has healed me.
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If not He's still in control.
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Now you remember at
the Oakwood Seventh-day
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Adventist church
in Taylor, Michigan.
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Have you told this
testimony in church?
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No. Okay.
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I'm told that they want me
to do it but I haven't yet.
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Okay.
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I'm three months post chemo so--
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Okay. Oh.
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You know, some of the--
the weakness that you deal with
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and some of the-- I still don't
take walks out on the street
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because I'm--
I'm little unsteady
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and my weight and everything
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but my strength is improving
and I'm-- I'm encouraged.
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So I'm not discouraged.
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Are you taking a
lot of medications?
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No. Okay, excellent.
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I just take my
regular medication
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that I took before I had cancer
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and take an extra iron
pill and some vitamins.
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Well. That's great.
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Now let's talk about your faith.
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The Bible says
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"Faith is the
substance of things hoped for,
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the evidence of
things not seen."
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And Sandy you sound like,
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you know, verse
number 6, verse 6,
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"He is a rewarder of them
that diligently seek him."
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Let's talk about faith,
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how did faith
play a role in this?
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Well, without it,
without hope. Yes.
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There's just--
there's without hope
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it's just hopeless you know.
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But my
situation is not hopeless,
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I have the faith
that God can heal,
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that He will heal
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if it's to His
honor and to His glory.
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So I don't believe that
He is gonna heal somebody
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that's just gonna go
off and forget about Him.
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I mean, I think that God heals
because it gives Him glory.
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Oh, believe that. Yes.
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Everything has to
be about God's glory.
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Exactly. Yes.
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And this is really something
that I'm really keen into
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and my reason for it is
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as my mom died
from ovarian cancer.
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Your mom?
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Yes, and this is when--
when I was a child of seven.
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I was gonna say years ago. Yeah.
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It was a lot
different. And it was.
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I could remember
visiting her in a hospital.
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And I can remember the
doctors always being there
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because she was in so much pain
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and when they tried to
use the different medications
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and a different new techniques
it really did more damage
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than really
assisted her, you know.
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Well, my
sister-in-law died two months
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after I started my treatment.
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Oh.
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So I had that to deal with
too and you know, all of the--
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I almost felt guilty that my
cancer was in the first stage
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and I wasn't
gonna go on her path.
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I didn't have
to travel her path.
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So I'm so grateful for
that and love all other things.
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I know you are. I can imagine.
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Let me ask you, in your
walk with Christ is it crucial--
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how important is
time in His word?
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How important is that to you?
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Well, I've been a little
relax, I'll be-- I admit it.
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But when I-- when I do, do it,
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it makes my day go better.
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And it gives you
hope? I have hope.
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You have the hope.
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I have the hope.
You already have hope.
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I just need to spend time
and I-- I'm working on that.
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So, Sandy, what are
your other aspiration?
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I mean, do you like to
gardened, are you chef?
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What are you-- what
else do you do as a hobby?
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Well, I-- my name's Sandra means
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industries one
or helpful to man.
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I've always been a
professional volunteer.
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Whenever there was
something going out at church
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or at the school, I was there.
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They need Sandy to do. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But Sandy's can't do that
but she's passed the torch on.
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I'm in the mentor
stage, I mentor people.
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That's lovely.
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I think it's my job
now to mentor and to help.
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And to help,
always wanted to help.
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Continue help.
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But I can't always do
the heavy work anymore.
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Okay. Can't do it.
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Like we're into
vacation Bible school now
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and I couldn't do what
I had done in the past.
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So I'm playing
the piano in prayer.
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Oh, that's nice.
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Then I love seeing
the little one sing.
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So you play the piano?
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Yeah, I-- oh, yes.
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I play, I sing,
I play the organ.
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I play hand bells.
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You know I've been involved
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in a lot of musical
aspects of the church
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but since I had cancer
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I haven't been able
to attend and do that.
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So hopefully this fall,
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once things start
up I'll be able to.
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How long, how
many years in marriage?
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Forty two. Forty
two years of marriage.
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And when we're just
talking before we started taping
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how you met your
husband at Adelphian Academy.
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And Adelphian Academy
is a Seventh-day Adventist
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boarding school that
was located Holly, Michigan.
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And I also attended there
with Sandy's sister-in-law Susan
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and Brian we-- you
know, we were family.
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I remember when
I was a young girl
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and your father-in-law
would come, was it smoking Sam?
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Stop smoking clinics. Yes.
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That's still doing them. He is?
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He is 89-years-old
and he's still does
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that smoking clinics at
least once or twice a year.
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He would have come to Barns
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and some of the area
churches in Detroit helped mil--
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I know thousands of
people because of the knowledge
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and to see that mechanism.
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You would have to
see, it was amazing.
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You know 89 years of
age and still going strong.
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Yes. That is a blessing.
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As soon as you've been tested
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and the Lord has blessed
you what are some of the things
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that you intend to do
at this point in your life?
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Well, every chance I
can I give Him the glory.
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But I'm-- I'm going to
get back into my music things.
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And there as I say mentoring,
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there's a lot of that
that needs to be done.
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There's a lot of
young people coming up,
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I love the young people.
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The school Oakwood
Academy, where the children at--
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where our children attended.
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We-- my husband was
one of the visionaries
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for Oakwood Academy
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and I'm planning on
working with the alumni
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and to do some fund raising.
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Excellent,
Excellent. It's a blessing.
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Let me ask, what
could you tell someone
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that may have been
recently diagnosed?
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Not like ovarian cancer
but any cancer that you know,
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what kind of encouragement
could you give them?
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Well, first of all
they need to know the Lord.
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It they know the Lord
then their hope is in the Lord.
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And you know the
song "We Have His Hope."
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Yeah.
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It is definitely that's
where our hope is it's in Jesus.
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And whatever we have
to go through He promises,
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there are so many
promises in the Bible.
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And He promises that
He will never forsake us,
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He'll always be there
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and He will put
people in our path
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and I pray that God
will put people on my path
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that I could be a witness too.
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And I tried to not
miss those opportunities.
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They're everywhere.
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I mean people are
hurting, say a kind word.
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You know, like they're
telling the little kids
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in vacation Bible school,
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go home and tell your
friends that Jesus loves them.
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Jesus does love us.
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A smile, a kind
word as Sandy says,
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can go a long way
to encourage someone.
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Have you been back
to any support groups,
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are you in a support group?
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No, I'm not. I'm not.
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I decided that
that was something
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that I really
didn't want to get into.
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All right.
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I felt like my family
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and my church
were big support to me
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and so that it
didn't really need to go
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and cry on
somebody else's shoulder
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because I wasn't crying.
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I was rejoicing.
You were rejoicing.
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I was rejoicing? And
why should you rejoice?
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Again going back to why not
me but why shouldn't I rejoice
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and the Lord truly
answered your prayers
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and the prayers of the righteous
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availed it much.
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And see and this is
why it's so important
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when we go to a
battle with Jesus Christ
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or we go through
something a struggle.
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James 1:8 says,
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"The double minded man is
unstable in all his ways."
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If you're going to believe
God is going to heal you.
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You got to stand on that
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and you cannot
waiver in that faith.
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You have to be solid
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and you have to be sure in
your heart and in your mind
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that what God says God means.
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Right. And you
cannot question that.
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All right, if I
say, if I've changed
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that now to whatever
God has for me to do.
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Oh.
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Okay, I would do it. Whatever.
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I think of we
were reading in Paul
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and it might have
been in Chronicles
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and he was talking about
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you need to tell your testimony
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and to witness.
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He encourages
that-- In Corinthians.
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Yes, in Corinthians and I
think that is so important
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as I was reading this I
really became motivated,
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you now, to share
those trials and tribulations
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that we go
through and talk to others
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to have them share
their trials and tribulations.
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I agree with that and I--
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when I was then
getting a CT scan
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this is after all
the chemo treatments
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I was getting my follow up.
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And one of the ladies that
was in there was so tearful.
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She was just so tearful
and another one came in there
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just she was higher than a kite.
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She was just
complaining about everything
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but you know, but she was
very positive about her health
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and the other one
was crying and so I said,
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do you have a
church that you attend?
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You know, is there
do you know the Lord
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I mean, Jesus loves
you and He cares about you.
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And I said I've been
through this treatment.
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And she says,
oh, you lose you hair
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and you lose this
and you lose that.
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I said, yeah, that's
all part of the treatment.
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But you know it's possible
to make it and here I am,
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I've done it only
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because the God has
brought me through it.
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And so I said,
you know, do you have
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a church
community or church family?
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Does your family support you
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and so we talked
about all those things.
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So I felt good about that.
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Yeah, you're
witnessing right there.
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I witness right
there in the CT scan.
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You were. So whatever--
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So it's-- I wanted just
do it wherever God leads me?
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Wherever God leads you.
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Now your mom
still-- she's still--
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No, she went to
live with my sister
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and she has since passed
but she passed off you know,
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she didn't have
any major diseases.
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Just a little
Alzheimer's and dementia
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and she died peacefully in her
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sleep with all of us around her.
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Singing hymns. Singing hymns.
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That means God close hymns.
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She was singing up to
24 hours before she died.
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She sang with us. Really?
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Yes. Isn't that a blessing?
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It was a true
blessing, you know.
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So now that you--
you've gone through this
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and you're mentoring
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and you know a 42
years of marriage,
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your children are doing well.
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Any grandchildren? Six.
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Oh, you got to snug
that in there, Sandy.
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Six, you know. Oh, my goodness.
00:21:37.88\00:21:40.02
You are
beautiful, you are great.
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I'm blessed.
I'm totally blessed.
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Totally blessed, you know.
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So being able to have
six beautiful grandchildren
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and being able to see
the God's glory just--
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Absolutely.
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You know, manifest
themselves. Absolutely.
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Through you, you
know, being so transparent.
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Why are you so trans--
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why are you just
telling this, why?
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Why are you here to do this?
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Because it happened to me
00:22:07.26\00:22:08.86
and it's
happening to other people.
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And so if there's
something I can say
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that they can find
peace because I have peace.
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Believe it or not I have peace.
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I see that. I feel that.
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I'm not-- I'm not anxious.
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One of the things
that you talked about
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and you referred to
on a couple occasions,
00:22:33.80\00:22:36.50
as you were talking to us.
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You talked about your insurance
and how that poured you though.
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How do you get to a point
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where those who may
not be as fortunate as you,
00:22:46.55\00:22:50.63
you know, who may
not have the insurance.
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How do you
encourage them? Because--
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Well, I have a friend. Okay.
00:22:55.68\00:22:57.80
Who was one of my
caregivers for my mother,
00:22:57.83\00:23:01.62
she would come in every
day and help with my mom
00:23:01.65\00:23:04.95
and do some of her
things that needed to be done.
00:23:04.98\00:23:08.16
And we would have worship
every morning together with her
00:23:08.19\00:23:12.39
and she just loved that.
00:23:12.42\00:23:14.25
Well, after I was
diagnosed with cancer
00:23:14.28\00:23:17.85
and had my
surgery and everything.
00:23:17.88\00:23:20.10
She comes up and tells
me that she has colon cancer
00:23:20.13\00:23:24.26
and she has spots on her liver.
00:23:24.29\00:23:26.57
So she already has metastasis.
00:23:26.60\00:23:29.17
She doesn't have any insurance.
00:23:29.20\00:23:32.10
So what do I tell her?
00:23:32.13\00:23:35.56
She went to
live with her sister,
00:23:35.59\00:23:37.55
her sister is
helping her tremendously.
00:23:37.58\00:23:42.58
She went to a doctor
00:23:42.61\00:23:44.89
and they're
finding funding for her.
00:23:44.92\00:23:48.26
She hasn't had her
surgery yet but she has chemo
00:23:48.29\00:23:51.16
and she uses some
natural remedies of fruits
00:23:51.19\00:23:56.53
and vegetable
juices fresh for things
00:23:56.56\00:23:59.85
and hers is receding.
00:23:59.88\00:24:02.91
Excellent.
00:24:02.94\00:24:03.97
So I mean, I have experience
with, with that to with people
00:24:04.00\00:24:10.63
who don't have the insurance
and I just pray with them.
00:24:10.66\00:24:14.13
You know, we talk
every once in a while
00:24:14.16\00:24:15.84
and I send her some
night gowns of my moms.
00:24:15.87\00:24:19.32
And you know,
we some things over
00:24:19.35\00:24:21.24
and she doesn't--
she goes to church.
00:24:21.27\00:24:24.23
She still goes to church.
00:24:24.26\00:24:25.29
She'd goes to the Farmington
Seventh-Day Adventist Church.
00:24:25.32\00:24:28.32
She says, I go
and she inspired me
00:24:28.35\00:24:32.62
because she'll go and
she'll lay down on the bench
00:24:32.65\00:24:35.72
just to be in church.
00:24:35.75\00:24:36.78
Okay.
00:24:36.81\00:24:38.73
Just have a
little piece of church.
00:24:38.76\00:24:43.07
That's comforting to her.
00:24:43.10\00:24:44.22
I think no one you know. Yeah.
00:24:44.25\00:24:46.10
Here I didn't go to
church because I had a,
00:24:46.13\00:24:48.99
you know, ache in
my leg or something.
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She goes, she can't even sit up
00:24:50.94\00:24:55.23
but she goes to
church and lays on the pew
00:24:55.26\00:24:57.10
and they don't
mind 'cause she's there.
00:24:57.13\00:24:58.74
Because she is there.
00:24:58.77\00:25:00.84
So I mean, there's
examples of that in my life too.
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You know--
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Your relationship with
the Lord apparently increased
00:25:09.40\00:25:13.44
you know, after the victory.
00:25:13.47\00:25:16.22
Well, my dependent.
00:25:16.25\00:25:18.93
I'm dependent. Okay.
00:25:18.96\00:25:20.42
I'm very dependent.
That's a excellent way of--
00:25:20.45\00:25:22.18
On Jesus. You know.
00:25:22.21\00:25:23.24
I'm very dependent.
00:25:23.27\00:25:24.64
They are
depending on the Lord. Yeah.
00:25:24.67\00:25:26.51
And I'm not independent.
I can't do it myself.
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When you talk
about faith and hope
00:25:30.09\00:25:32.12
and someone right now
viewing "Making it Work,"
00:25:32.15\00:25:35.90
maybe saying I can't make it.
00:25:35.93\00:25:38.35
I don't have insurance,
I don't have any money.
00:25:38.38\00:25:39.88
I don't have
family I don't support.
00:25:39.91\00:25:42.15
I don't have a church
family but you do have Jesus.
00:25:42.18\00:25:46.73
God will never leave
you or forsake you no matter
00:25:46.76\00:25:51.32
what you have to endure.
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And maybe you
know in the second,
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third or forth stage may
not be in the first stage.
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It may not be able
to be turned around
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but one thing is for sure that
if you give your life to Jesus,
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He will make things
all right, no matter what.
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And another thing
that I think its important
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is that it's significant
for each and everyone of us
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to hold on to the Lord.
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Absolutely.
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When we get to a point,
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when we feel
that there is no one
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that's going to
understand the Lord understands.
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And that's
where we reach out to.
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And Sandy, you recognized
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that you needed to
strengthen your faith
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and that's really
important because many of us
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will become so tied up
with the illness itself
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that we don't really recognize
that it's more to the illness
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that we can over come
this illness if we have faith
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and if we have a
relationship with the Lord.
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Well, even if
we don't overcome--
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I mean, if the illness
takes us and we perish.
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We still know that God loves us.
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Yes. He didn't planned for sin.
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I mean planned
for in the salvation
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because He send His son.
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But he didn't want us to be ill.
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It's not His
plan for us to be ill.
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That's right. He
wants us to be well.
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When we're well, we have more
energy to use in his service
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and that's what
we need to be doing.
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All right. Okay, you go on.
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I think the overcoming
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is basically releasing
those negatives feelings
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and developing a
relationship with God
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so you can
accept whatever happens.
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Yes. You know.
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It says you know, it's
like you pray in His will.
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It's not His
will for us to be ill.
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Absolutely.
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But it's will
for us to trust Him.
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And to trust.
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And you know it
takes me to that hymn, "
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Trust and obey, for
there's no other way.
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To be happy in Jesus,
but to trust and obey."
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Amen. You want to sing?
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Oh, listen, well,
we're out of time.
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But, Sandy Weaver, thank you
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so much for telling yours story,
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your unique story.
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And we praise God for
your life, the testimony
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and to you today
know that God is with you.
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Well, Arthur, I
thank God for your life.
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Thank you God.
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I'm thing for
your life all the time.
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And praise God.
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Well, I'm Dr. Kim
Logan-Nowlin. I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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Thank you for joining
us on "Making it Work."
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God bless.
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