Hi, I'm Dr. Kim
Logan-Nowlin. I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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And welcome to "Making it Work."
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Our topic today on
"Making it Work" is
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"Learning How to Wait."
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Arthur, when you think about
waiting what comes to mind?
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Pausing, making good decisions--
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Okay. Not moving
forward impossibly.
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All right, well,
today on "Making it Work"
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we are joining with
two wonderful people
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that we have the pleasure
of knowing over the years
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Mr. and Mrs.
Brendan and Talia Bryant.
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Welcome to "Making
it Work." How are you?
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We are fine.
Thank you for having us.
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Doing great, Great. Thank you.
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You guys look good,
looking as still honeymooners.
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How many years of marriage
now? We are going on nine years.
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No, Talia, nine
years? Nine years, yes.
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All right let's get
right to the mid of it.
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All right, how did you meet
and how did Talia you become
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a Seventh-day Adventist?
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How did you meet? You
want to take, how we met.
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Well we met at church
actually, I was going to church
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at Ephesus SDA
Church in Saginaw.
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And she was at that time
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was going to a
church in Flint, Michigan.
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And her choir was
visiting and she came up,
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and we kind of met after church
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because her choir was
there to sing that day.
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Was it love at first sight?
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No, it was not
love at first sight.
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But I think about it is we met
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that was my first time speaking.
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Yes, it was his first sermon.
That was my first sermon.
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Really, she
heard your sermon? Yes.
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Yes. Okay.
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Wow, okay, were you impressed?
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No, not really. Okay.
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He did a good job in
his sermon but, you know,
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I wasn't looking for a boyfriend
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or anything at that point time.
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I had just moved to Michigan.
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All right. So--
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From where? From North Carolina.
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I went to school
in North Carolina
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close to Maryland.
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So I just moved to Michigan
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and I wasn't
looking for relationship.
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I thought we were
gonna last for two weeks.
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Okay. She told you that?
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Yes. Yeah, I told him that.
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You believe that? No.
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Okay.
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And you are doing
nine year. Exactly.
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So you, it's
looking for a relationship?
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Oh, not really.
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You know, I kind had
just into the relationship
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and I just wanted to have fun.
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You know, just
want to take an easy
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and just kind of
talk and things like that.
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So when she
told me that kind of,
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you know, peak my curiosity.
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What do you mean
two weeks, you know.
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So I said you have never met
anyone in your choir like me.
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So that was the
challenge for you?
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Okay, all right, so
then you started dating?
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Okay those two weeks
went into another week--
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Five years, we dated five years.
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You dated-- now you
know, that is really
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unheard of today five
years before marriage.
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Yes. All right.
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Why five years? Yes.
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Well, Brendan was still a school
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and so we didn't
know each other prior to,
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so we want to
take the time to really
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get to know
each other as friends
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and then as we
dated and it progressed.
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Okay. Okay, all right.
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So five years-- so the
wedding was in Maryland?
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No, it was actually
at Saginaw, Michigan.
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It was-- and
how did in the world
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did you get moved to Saginaw,
now you're from Maryland.
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I was here for so long.
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And you made a
lot of new friends.
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And I made a lot of new friends
so I decided to go ahead.
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So your family from Maryland?
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My family is from
Maryland. And they came?
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And they came, family friends
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and my grandmother,
family from Trinidad came up.
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Oh, really?
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It was actually the
weekend of the major blackout.
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Okay. Wow.
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Oh, really. In 2003.
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That was your wedding weekend?
That was our wedding weekend.
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So did it affect your wedding?
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Actually because our
wedding was on Sunday,
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it affected as far
as getting people in
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but they made it
in time for wedding.
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My grandmother made it right
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before the wedding
started she walked in.
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Oh, my goodness.
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So some of our family, they got
stuck coming from down South.
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They ran out of gas
and they have to wait
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while to, you know, refuel.
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And then some of our family
coming from on the West Indies
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and Trinidad got New York
and waiting to come and yeah.
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Well, that's
something. That's amazing.
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Now let's talk-- let's go
back a little bit education.
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Tell me about your
educational background.
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Okay.
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Well, I graduated from
North Carolina Agricultural
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and Technical State University
with a bachelors in IT
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and have a masters in
Information Systems Management.
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Wow, okay.
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And my train I'm
occupational therapist,
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doing practicing now
for almost ten years.
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And I have a bachelor's
degree in occupational therapy
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with a minor in psychology.
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Really. That's wonderful.
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you need that.
You like your job?
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I love it. Really.
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I love my job. Tell us why?
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Because I earn a
continue-- on a daily basis
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I get a chance to help people
and shape and mold their lives.
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When they think the
down and out and they can,
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you know, come out you know
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I can kind of
facilitate for them to rehab
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and go back home or go
back to into the community.
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So this is awesome job.
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I sprain my or something
my-- my sort of got so maybe
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you and I can
communicate about it, you know,
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because I need it
man, I need that arm.
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I give home health care too.
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Well, let's talk
about so many things
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as transpired in your
life leading up to learning
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how to wait.
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There's been
some tragedies. Yes.
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Okay, Talia, let's talk
about some of the strategies.
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Well, in 2001 I lost my
uncle, and at the 9/11 tragedy
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he was one of my closest uncles
and so that was devastating.
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And then in
2005 I lost my father
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which was a shocker.
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It wasn't, you
know, he was, he was sick
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but it was getting
better and so to have him passed
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two days after my birthday
was to very tragic for me.
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And you are only
child? I am the only child.
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Your uncle was in 9/11? Yes.
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And you had a good
relationship with him?
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And that must
have been devastating.
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Very, very devastating.
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So much so that I was
in denial for a long time.
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I would tell
Brendan that he's out there,
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he just has amnesia.
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He doesn't know where he is,
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we got to go we
got to go find him.
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Wow. Right.
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But, you know, I've
come to the realization
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that you know he has passed.
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But the blessed
hope still is there
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that I will see him again.
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You know, when I had opportunity
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last year to go visited, 9/11
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we went to the
monuments and I'd text you.
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You did.
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And I still have
all that for you.
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I do. Oh, wow.
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And, we went and
we took the paper
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and we took the
charcoal over Oscar Nesbitt.
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Yes, that's right.
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And I went to-- we looked him up
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on the keypad, saw his picture.
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I took of it picture
and I sent it to you.
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You did.
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And it was so moving
that I could do that for you,
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that we could do that for you
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because you had not
been able to make it.
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And it was an
amazing experience.
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It truly was.
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Because we were so
excited and Kim said
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we got a call
her, we got a call her.
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I did say call
her. And you did call.
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I did, I did. Yeah we did.
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And I said what
is your uncle's name?
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I'm here. I'm taking pictures.
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I did-- even
did a video on that.
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I did a video and
wanted you to know
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how much we love
you and your family.
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Thank you, its
greatly appreciated.
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Let's talk about some issues
that you've dealt with, okay.
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You know, just growing up,
and I was the youngest child
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and so, I had to-- my siblings,
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my siblings is closet to
me is 10 years older than me.
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Wow.
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So in a sense I kind of grew up
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almost in a sense
of I'm the only child.
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Only child.
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In a way but as far as I,
you know, dealing with that
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and, you know,
actually during our marriage,
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probably around the year four?
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Three or four years.
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Three or four
years so we started
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trying to plan to have a family.
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Yes.
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Now Talia, were you Adventists
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before-- you
accepted the massage.
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Yes, at 13.
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At 13 and so your family
where members back in Maryland.
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Yes. Okay.
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So now you're here,
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you married this two
weeks have gone into five years
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you walked down
isle, you married.
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Now you thinking
about having children, okay.
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Let's talk about that.
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Let's talk about what happened.
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Can you tell your story?
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Well, it was
probably around year
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three of our marriage we decided
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"Okay, we're
gonna have children,"
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and we started
going through the process.
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And weren't
getting pregnant. You will.
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Right, and then one
thing that I wanted to say
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is we are before we went
to premarital counseling,
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we went to
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
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we went through a
lovely premarital counseling.
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We always said, upfront we
said "hey, when we have children
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we want to have at
least two birth children
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and may be we'll
adopt the third child."
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So that was our plan.
Wants plan for family.
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So you have already planed?
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Yes. Okay.
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Yes. Okay.
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Yep, so we started trying
and we weren't conceiving.
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Brendan was going
through some medical issues
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that the doctors still
don't know what's wrong
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but is only by the grace
of God that he is healed.
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Definitely.
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And so with that
after four years of trying
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we decided to adopt first.
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We said, you know, what
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God has a plan
for us with children.
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And we are adopted
into the body of Christ.
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All right.
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So we went for
with an adoption plan.
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And that's here in Michigan?
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In Michigan, yes. In Michigan.
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Let me put
something else in there.
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All right.
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How we get to that
point is, we had been through,
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you know, different
testing and things like that
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and have prayed about it.
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Have prayed and said to
God what do You want us to do?
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And the doctors didn't
say we couldn't have children
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but pretty much say we couldn't.
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And so, they
said the only option
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is for you to do
and vitro fertilization.
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And so I started doing it.
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Be in the medical background
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I started doing
some research on it
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and I was kind of on the fence.
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I was more
gung-ho. You were gung-ho.
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You were like let's do
this. I was like let's do this.
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I mean, as many
through the treatments
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and going to the
doctors and it was painful.
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Very painful and expensive.
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And expensive but
I said let's do this,
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and so the doctor
sent the preparation kit
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for the vitro to our house
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and Brendan actually
got the house before I did.
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Yeah, when I got to the house
the box that that it came in
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was primarily
this big, this high.
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Yes. Really?
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Yeah, and so, I started
going through, the stuff.
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And I'm like Holy
Spirit saying it now you know.
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Now you know.
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Now you know and
went into the cupboard
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I got a black marker
and wrote on it testimony.
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Testimony. You did.
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Wrote on it. Oh, testimony.
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And we still have that box.
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Yeah, still have that
box. That is the testimony.
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And I put it away, and I said
one this will be my testimony.
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Yes. This will our testimony.
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Never used it? Never used it.
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We never used it.
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Okay, after you investigated
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and found out what
it would take for you
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to go forward
in that you decided
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that you didn't wanted to go.
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And Holy Spirit said
start read the ministry
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and the Adventist and
Adventist health message.
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What do you know about that?
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And when I read that and
the things that I learned
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and I said I can't let
my wife go through that.
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That's was funny
because you asked earlier about
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did I always have
faith in, you know,
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and during this time I
said wait a minute come on now.
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We, we have this box
let's move forward with this,
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let's move forward with it.
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And Brendan comes saying no,
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no the Holy Spirit is saying no.
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And I'm saying but
when. When is it going to be?
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So you question
God? I questioned.
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I questioned.
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Soon so at that
point you made the decision
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not to move forward with this.
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Right. What were you thinking?
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Did you think well, okay,
I'm gonna go ahead and adopt?
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It was that your motivation?
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That was it. Okay.
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The Holy Spirit when he sent
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when he allowed that box to come
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and he spoke to me very clearly
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that this is
not the thing to do.
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I say He's
reversed our plan. Okay.
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He's reversed our plan,
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I said we have to adopt
that's what God wants us to do.
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But it supposed
to be in our minds
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is number three is number one.
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Is number one.
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Okay, so now you got used
to-- begin the adoption process.
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How long did that take?
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We started in--
four months. Four months.
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Which usually they
told us it could take--
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Up to two
years. Up to two years.
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It took you four
months. Four months.
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And that includes,
filling out all the paperwork,
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home visits everything.
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Four months, until we were
able to bring a baby girl home.
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Bring your baby
girl home. All right.
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How did you feel when
you brought her to your home?
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Oh, man. Elated, yes, yes.
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Yes. Yes, very exciting.
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Definitely.
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And then just
some nervous. Nervous.
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Because I thought I
knew what I was doing.
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And then I realized I don't know
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what in the world
I'm doing with the baby.
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So the baby was a
infant at that time?
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Yes, she was two
weeks old. Two weeks old.
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Yeah, two weeks old.
And there are no books.
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Even though people write books
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but when you're going
through it, two weeks.
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And the awesome thing about
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that is to go back a little bit,
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when we say we are gonna
plan for a family we said,
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we're at that
time in a condominium
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which is a little small,
we said we need some space.
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And for years we had
tried in this market to sell it,
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anyone sell.
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And so we got a
real great realtor.
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And during that time
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what we were
trying to sell the condo
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we start
looking for other homes.
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Looking at a short
sales, looking at foreclosures
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but none ever worked out.
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And so God had blessed us.
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He-- what His goals for us were
higher than what we thought.
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We were able to build
a home. You built a home.
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That's on the day
that our daughter was born,
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is the day then we
moved into our new house.
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Excellent.
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Oh, that is a
blessing, you know--
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So how old is your daughter now?
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She's two. Two, two-years-old.
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Two-years-old.
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All right, very
active, very involved now.
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Okay now that's not the clincher
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of the story all right.
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So now learning the way
again meaning into pause,
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listen to God and, you know.
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Both believe in God
even when you question God
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was it any type of
challenges going on
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when Talia wanted
you to used the box.
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And she said come on, you know,
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was that
putting pressure on you?
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A little bit, you
know, but my faith was strong
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and scripture says
"God is a reward of those
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who diligently seek Him."
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So it just made me
more prayerful it made me
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fast more, praying more.
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And just to hang in
there, and know that
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if it doesn't happen right
away God still gonna bless.
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Was Talia asking
you on a daily basis
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come on, come on, come on
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or did she just,
kind of let it ceased?
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Initialing yes but
after a while it was
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maybe a month here, a
month there, you know.
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Okay. Yeah.
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So it was basically your
faith that kept you be moving?
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Definitely. Okay.
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Nothing but faith. Okay.
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And during that time, you know,
had you indicated to yourself
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well, we are not going
to be able to give birth
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or what was going
through your mind?
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Well, actually I was so serious.
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I did a couple things.
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I made a couple
covenants with God.
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It is first time I
really speaking of them.
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The first one was
that I will not eat sweets
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except natural sweets for until
He blessed me with a child.
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Sugar means no, no
candy, no cakes, no pie.
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Because I start to see
you lose so much weight.
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Oh, I said what is going on?
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So you didn't eat
sweets. No, sweets.
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The other thing
was that no, meat.
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No, meat. I love
my chicken wings.
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My goodness.
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No, meat and then
the other thing was
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I say at that time I had a beard
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and I said I'll trim it
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but I won't cut my
beard until You bless me.
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Okay. Wow.
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Made those covenants.
Yes, made those covenants.
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Where will we be
today if we can make those
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types of covenants with
God and hold fast to those?
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And a covenant is a commitment.
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It is a task, is a bond
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that you make an
agreement with God
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and then you gonna hold to
it until He brings the best.
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So how soon did God
act on those covenants?
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That was four years. Four years.
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Four years?
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So where was your beard?
So you did that for years?
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You didn't shave
your beard cut your beard?
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No, I just trimmed it.
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You trimmed it.
I just trimmed it.
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But the sweet thing I
mean-- Man, that was rough.
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That you go to, you know,
functions, birthday parties
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and I love ice-cream,
cake no big deal but ice-cream
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and I will see Haagen-Dazs
that would just wave at me.
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Wave, praise the Lord.
But no, no, sweets at all.
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Okay. None.
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And it's no way it's
gonna break that covenant.
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No, because I
said I'm not gonna,
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I'm not gonna let
go until You bless me.
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I'm not gonna let go.
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Until You bless
me. Until You bless me.
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Even though the
doctors and the reports said
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this is pretty much
impossible I said no.
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And it is funny
because that's the faith
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I had to cling onto.
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When I didn't have the faith
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I needed to carry on
I would cling to him.
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Yes.
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And his faith helped
bring me through to a point
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where I could
depend on my faith within.
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So was it hard for you
to cling on to that faith?
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You know, I
understand what you're saying,
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you have to cling onto.
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But was this a
difficult process for you?
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Yes, sometimes
harder than others,
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especially when
friends would have children,
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new born babies or
they would pregnant
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so I would, when is
it gonna be my turn.
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Yes.
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But then there were other times
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when I wouldn't
think about it as much.
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And so, especially when
the Lord decided to bless us
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with our oldest
daughter through adoption.
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You know, I was elated
and wasn't thinking about
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immediately having children.
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I said okay, you know,
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maybe another year
or two we'll try again.
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Because my faith
said, I'm not trust
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what the doctors are saying.
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So I still believe
that we can conceive.
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It's just not our
time I'm learning to wait.
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Learning how to wait.
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You never felt that you
were not going to conceive.
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You believed that
because of your husband's faith.
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Yes. Excellent.
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So four years go
by. Four years go by.
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And then what happened?
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So 13 weeks after are daughter
came home where I was born,
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I found out that I was pregnant.
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Thirteen weeks Thirteen weeks.
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Thirteen weeks later.
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Thirteen weeks. Yes.
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And the awesome
thing about it is,
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our first daughter
was born in year six,
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almost I think
end of the year seven.
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But our second daughter,
was born in year seven.
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Seven. Seven.
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God's number, the completion.
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Oh, let me we want
to shout up, Hallelujah.
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Hallelujah. Yeah.
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What God, God.
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How did you feel when
you finally got the messages
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that are you
information that it was there?
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I didn't believe it really.
00:20:05.96\00:20:08.36
I kept taking
pregnancy test levels.
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Oh, boy, this cannot be real.
00:20:09.72\00:20:11.12
Were you sick or what?
I was but it was weird.
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I was having evening sickness.
00:20:14.75\00:20:17.02
So I was sitting in
the back of the car with,
00:20:17.05\00:20:19.55
you know, our daughter.
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So I'm thinking
I'm getting motion
00:20:20.74\00:20:21.85
sickness in the
evening when we will go out.
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So I just said give
me a gingery I'm okay.
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My mom she said do you
think you need to take it as a--
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No, I am not pregnant so no.
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And then I kept on going
and one my best friend said
00:20:32.26\00:20:35.31
maybe you should take a test.
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I said I'm not
pregnant. It's okay let's go.
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And then it was one day
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we had gone to a
graduation party.
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I didn't eat
anything but I was just sick.
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So I had, you know,
felt really bad sinus.
00:20:45.43\00:20:47.53
I was like give
me sinus medicines.
00:20:47.56\00:20:48.83
So I took some
medicine and it came back up.
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Brendan was like
will you just get a test.
00:20:50.90\00:20:52.60
I was like sure go
ahead to get a test.
00:20:52.63\00:20:54.26
So he got the test
00:20:54.29\00:20:56.14
but I never took
it, not that day.
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So he asked the next day
well, did you take the test?
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I was like no, because
I'm not pregnant right.
00:21:01.12\00:21:04.10
Why take the
test? Why take the test?
00:21:04.13\00:21:05.88
I couldn't sleep that night
00:21:05.91\00:21:08.63
and I was up at
like two in the morning.
00:21:08.66\00:21:10.42
Really? And I
thought about the test.
00:21:10.45\00:21:12.07
I said well, may be I just
go ahead and take the test.
00:21:12.10\00:21:14.13
All right. And I took the test.
00:21:14.16\00:21:16.98
Did you shout? Did you shout?
00:21:17.01\00:21:18.33
I almost fell out.
00:21:18.36\00:21:21.07
It was funny
because I woke him up.
00:21:21.10\00:21:22.81
I was like,
Brendan, I'm pregnant.
00:21:22.84\00:21:25.44
And he was like that's great
and went right back to sleep.
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Went right back
to sleep. I knew it.
00:21:29.83\00:21:33.47
I knew when God
would do so I was happy
00:21:33.50\00:21:35.24
but I just like thanks, God.
00:21:35.27\00:21:38.13
You just, You just, You did said
00:21:38.16\00:21:40.15
You would do and
went back to sleep.
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And at last you
got a opportunity
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to eat some ice-cream.
00:21:43.38\00:21:44.41
Ice-cream!
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You know what, not right away,
00:21:48.24\00:21:51.35
I didn't eat it
until she was born.
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Until she was born.
What, another nine months?
00:21:54.49\00:21:56.07
Yes.
00:21:56.10\00:21:57.13
Boy, you bought all
that ice-cream back.
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And so--
00:22:00.40\00:22:01.43
What ice-cream did you
eat? Vanilla Swiss Almond.
00:22:01.46\00:22:06.25
Oh, I get it.
00:22:06.28\00:22:07.43
Now how old is your
youngest daughter now?
00:22:07.46\00:22:09.22
She's one. Oh, my goodness.
00:22:09.25\00:22:11.34
A two-year-old and one-year-old.
00:22:11.37\00:22:12.81
Two-year-old and
one-year-old. You are all busy.
00:22:12.84\00:22:14.61
So how does the two-year-old
relate to the one-year-old?
00:22:14.64\00:22:16.79
Oh, they get
along just fine. Really?
00:22:16.82\00:22:18.61
Yeah, they really get along well
00:22:18.64\00:22:20.23
and it's just--
it was God's plan.
00:22:20.26\00:22:23.30
A lot of people, you know,
00:22:23.33\00:22:24.67
they always saying a lot of time
00:22:24.70\00:22:26.40
that people that adopt
always have a birth child.
00:22:26.43\00:22:29.96
Well, that's not true.
00:22:29.99\00:22:31.72
The percentage say is
about five percent of people
00:22:31.75\00:22:35.06
that adopt
actually have a birth child.
00:22:35.09\00:22:37.02
So I wouldn't expecting,
00:22:37.05\00:22:38.71
you know, that
blessing right away
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but I knew that
someday God would do it.
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And it was just
a double blessing.
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And I don't even think
about it as an adoption.
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Exactly.
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Anybody somebody
asks me I'm like,
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oh, yeah she is my daughter.
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She is your daughter.
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Now what about when she
gets older would you ever tell?
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Actually we already told her,
so it's not big deal you know,
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when somebody
says you're adopted.
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Oh yeah, I'm adopted.
00:23:03.10\00:23:04.13
There are two ways
some people are by birth
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and some people are adopted.
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But if you think
about it we're all adopted.
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Just we're
adopted in God's family.
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I like that the
body of the Christ.
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How does she comprehend
that when you tell her?
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Yes, being too?
Yeah, you know what we do.
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We actually have
what's we called life book.
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And so, there're
pictures in there
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when she was born,
about her birth mom.
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Pictures of us.
Pictures of her birth mom?
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So it just tells her story. Yes.
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Also she sees her birth mom?
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She sees, she
sees pictures of her.
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Pictures of her.
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Pictures of her and
we have an agreement
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that we send her pictures
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and she's able to
communicate to us,
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we can communicate to her.
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And it was a great process
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and I encourage
other people to adopt.
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Because she
actually had to choose us.
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She did. The mother chose you.
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The mother chose us. Wow.
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Through profile. Okay.
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She chose us. Excellent.
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This is amazing. The
Lord is surely blessing.
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Did you cry, I mean you Talia,
you read that test you said,
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you almost fell out but
any point did you all just,
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it could have been a
church, driving to gym,
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just start cry and say Lord,
You're just an awesome God?
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I've cried many tears. Yes.
00:24:10.65\00:24:12.72
Many tears of thanks. Yes.
00:24:12.75\00:24:15.57
Of joy because I know
where He has brought me.
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I know where He is brought us.
00:24:19.56\00:24:22.20
Through dealing with
the grief it wasn't just me,
00:24:22.23\00:24:25.26
my husband had to
help me through that grief.
00:24:25.29\00:24:27.60
There was a trying time
with my father's passing
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to having to deal with the fact
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that he's not able to
see his grandchildren here.
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But again rest
in a blessed hope.
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Blessed hope.
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When the trumpet should sound
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and the dead in
Christ shall rise first
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and we should be
gathered together.
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Oh.
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Even though, you know,
he's passed on, you know,
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and you believe
in that blessed Hope.
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Her you are your parents
of two beautiful young ladies
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and I mean that's motivating
when is-- within itself.
00:24:57.65\00:24:59.90
Yeah, that it is.
00:24:59.93\00:25:00.96
You know, so the
plans that you have for,
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I mean, you get a chance to do
00:25:03.32\00:25:04.65
all those
things that parents do.
00:25:04.68\00:25:06.06
Definitely.
00:25:06.09\00:25:07.12
You know, you should
be commended tremendous
00:25:07.15\00:25:09.55
that you even
took the opportunity
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to make a
decision, you know, to adopt.
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Because you
don't find men today.
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Not too many.
00:25:16.19\00:25:17.22
I mean, I am blessed there
a lot of good men out there
00:25:17.25\00:25:19.65
but for you to be
committed to your wife,
00:25:19.68\00:25:23.41
through the
challenges, the difficulties
00:25:23.44\00:25:25.37
but I think the key was
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you two were on the
same page with Jesus Christ.
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Right. Definitely.
00:25:29.20\00:25:30.23
You know, and
that God was your hope.
00:25:30.26\00:25:32.31
You prayed together
you studied together
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and also you are
in love with you wife.
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Definitely.
00:25:37.64\00:25:38.67
Brendan, every
time I see you, I mean,
00:25:38.70\00:25:40.96
I see men with
their wives and, you know.
00:25:40.99\00:25:43.77
And they sit here,
they over there or,
00:25:43.80\00:25:46.83
you know, they walk
in church they don't--
00:25:46.86\00:25:49.27
Because I, you know, but you--
00:25:49.30\00:25:52.08
Wait a minute, what do you know?
00:25:52.11\00:25:53.35
That I love you. Okay.
00:25:53.38\00:25:55.82
Yeah, love, I'm always with you.
00:25:55.85\00:25:57.25
I mean, do you
ever see us apart?
00:25:57.28\00:25:58.97
No, really. Rare.
00:25:59.00\00:26:00.50
You see the one
you see the other.
00:26:00.53\00:26:01.71
I forgot.
00:26:01.74\00:26:02.93
They are not,
they are not forgotten.
00:26:02.96\00:26:04.95
Not yet.
00:26:04.98\00:26:06.75
But every time I don't care
where I am if she walks past
00:26:06.78\00:26:10.08
or you passing
her the duffle bag
00:26:10.11\00:26:12.03
you just light up, you know,
the children you just light up.
00:26:12.06\00:26:16.29
And there was some other thing
00:26:16.32\00:26:18.25
I like the fact that
you are on one accord.
00:26:18.28\00:26:20.89
It shows in
everything you deal in.
00:26:20.92\00:26:22.86
You know, when we came
over to your house to visit.
00:26:22.89\00:26:25.96
We can see how attentive that
you both were with the other.
00:26:25.99\00:26:29.15
Each other.
00:26:29.18\00:26:30.22
Even among all the different
people that was in the home
00:26:30.25\00:26:34.25
you still cared into each other.
00:26:34.28\00:26:35.87
Well, I think we
till our marriages
00:26:35.90\00:26:38.08
we were first friends.
00:26:38.11\00:26:39.65
And so I think
because God's planed
00:26:39.68\00:26:42.80
we were able to
enjoy each other,
00:26:42.83\00:26:44.64
we could know each other.
00:26:44.67\00:26:45.77
You know, travel the
world with each other.
00:26:45.80\00:26:47.85
You have been to the Africa?
00:26:47.88\00:26:49.22
How many times you
have been to Wales?
00:26:49.25\00:26:51.50
We've been to Africa six times.
00:26:51.53\00:26:52.83
Six times? Yes.
00:26:52.86\00:26:54.36
Now you know six
times. Caribbean, Mexico.
00:26:54.39\00:26:57.69
Why are you looking
at me? I'm just saying.
00:26:57.72\00:27:01.32
You know, we have
fabulous new trip coming now
00:27:01.35\00:27:03.36
I'm hoping that, you
know we are gonna be together.
00:27:03.39\00:27:05.67
We have about one minute
00:27:05.70\00:27:07.12
and call somebody
to they going through
00:27:07.15\00:27:09.63
you know learning how to wait.
00:27:09.66\00:27:12.40
When you're in
your darkest hour and...
00:27:12.43\00:27:15.65
Sunken. It's all right.
00:27:18.95\00:27:23.00
When you're in your darkest hour
00:27:23.03\00:27:25.59
and you think
that you can't hear God
00:27:25.62\00:27:29.16
that you can't see Him
know that He still is alive.
00:27:29.19\00:27:34.52
Yes.
00:27:34.55\00:27:35.58
And you know that's fine. Yes.
00:27:35.61\00:27:39.98
If you can't hear
Him, if you can't see Him,
00:27:40.01\00:27:43.47
if don't feel His presence,
because there was times
00:27:43.50\00:27:45.43
I didn't feel His presence
but I knew He was alive.
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Amen.
00:27:48.89\00:27:50.38
Know that He can
do something for you
00:27:50.41\00:27:53.13
that's never been done before.
00:27:53.16\00:27:55.29
He did that for
us. Oh, God is good.
00:27:55.32\00:27:58.25
Well, listen I
want to thank you both.
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We can't come behind that
and listen, we want to thank
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Bryant's we love you
and we are so happy for you.
00:28:03.55\00:28:06.97
You have been a
testimony in our own lives.
00:28:07.00\00:28:08.57
Absolutely.
00:28:08.60\00:28:09.63
I'm Kim Logan-Nowlin.
And I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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And we want you to
continue to wait on the Lord,
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learn how to
wait and make it work.
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God bless.
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