Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan Nowlin.
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I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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And welcome to "Making it Work."
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Welcome back to
"Making it Work."
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You know, Arthur,
when you think about
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starting all over
again, what comes to mind?
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Wow, that means that I
had to make some plans,
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I had to think about what
I'm trying to attempt to do.
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All right.
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And most importantly,
I had to think about
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what are the
dynamics of-- what's gonna--
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what barriers I may face
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if I'm attempting to
make this process work.
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I see. You know, we made
some interesting changes.
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We have some challenges
in starting all over again.
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You and I, you
know, we had a baby
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after our two oldest children.
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Yeah. You know, your cousin
called us Abraham and Sarah.
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You know, what, you
know, Dr. Ricardo Graham,
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if you're watching today,
you know, I will never forget
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when you called
us Abraham and Sarah.
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In church. In church.
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In front of all those people.
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But I said, Abraham and
Sarah never looked so good.
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You go, girl. I know, all right.
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Well, on today's broadcast
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we're gonna talk about just
that, starting all over again.
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We want to welcome here
today Carl and Benita Dade.
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Welcome to "Making
it Work." Welcome, guys.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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And thank you for having us.
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Well, listen, we go way
back and children growing up
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and our church here in Detroit,
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the Burns
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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But how long
have you been married?
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Will be 25 years in December.
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No! In December.
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What? What is that, silver?
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December 9th. Anniversary.
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Silver anniversary.
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Oh, congratulations. Thank you.
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I had no idea it
will be 25 years.
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That's a lot of history. Yes.
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Well, tell us how
you met and tell us about
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this beautiful love story.
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Well, you know,
I've always known
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of Benita and her family,
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you know, sister and
mom because we attended
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the Davison Jr. Academy,
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and then they switched
the name to Clinton F. Warren
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on the east side of Detroit.
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And then the years
went by and I had, you know,
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came home from Andrews and
I was in church and I said,
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wow, she been grown up.
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Okay. Okay.
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That's how the relationship
started from there, you know.
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Excellent.
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So where did you take
her on your first date?
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It was Chi Chi's,
Chi Chi's Restaurant.
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It's the first date. Okay.
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And of course
you paid for dinner?
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Oh, yeah, of course. Of course.
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She wouldn't have went
if I would have said dutch.
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Well, I was gonna say dutch.
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Why did you ask that question?
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Well, you know, you know,
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times have evolved
and you don't know.
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But they were not doing
then, not way back then.
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But some couple did
do dutch even back then.
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Well, if you're trying
to pursue a woman, you know,
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as a young man
you don't do dutch.
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You don't do dutch.
No, you don't do dutch.
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Okay, you don't dutch.
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My sisters don't
even accept that.
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I didn't do dutch when I met--
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well, I might have.
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We don't want to go there.
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That's another show.
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So, all right, so and
you had a good time so,
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from there how long did you date
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before you were married?
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We dated--
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Approximately about two years.
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Two years. Two years.
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Now who married you? We were--
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Carl and I were actually married
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at the Justice
of the Peace office.
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We were starting to do
the planning for the wedding
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and it became a lot
for me and that's not where
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my focus wanted to go.
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So we did not have the
traditional church wedding
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and we've been very content
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and in particular me as a woman,
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you see, they-- you
know, people want to say well,
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did you miss it?
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And no, I really
have not missed it.
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That's a blessing.
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Well, talk to us about
some of the unique times
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you shared together.
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You know, what are
some of special times
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you can share with
us that you've endured,
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you know, especially
the birth of your children.
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All right. All right.
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Carl and I have had a
lot of precious moments.
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We don't have a--
we didn't have like
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a really strong
social support system where
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we would have
like weekend getaways
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or of things of that nature.
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So what we had to do was,
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we had to seize the
moment and the opportunities.
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Maybe like when
Jess was in school
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we would have our dates
in the middle of the week,
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you know, during the day time.
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When she was at
school? When she was at school.
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You may not have it
as other people have it
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but you have to learn
to seize your moments.
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Okay, now Jessica
is your oldest child
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and how old is she?
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Jessica is-- she's 24.
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And she is now in?
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In University of Cincinnati.
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And I want to say that she
just passed her qualifying exam?
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Yes, she did.
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For her PhD. I'm so excited.
Which area of her interest?
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What is it
biology or bio-chemistry?
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Biomedical. Biomedical.
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Biomedical.
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Right now she's in a lab
and she studying AIDS virus.
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Is that right?
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The AIDS virus, oh, okay.
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All right, now Joy is how old?
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Joy is seven.
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All right, so you have a 24 old.
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Wait a minute.
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24. 7. Wait a minute.
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I mean, we are
talking about some time.
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I mean, what happened there?
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Well, in between that
time we lost some children
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in between that time.
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But, you know, we
believe that God restores
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and renew and
rebuild for a reason.
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Oh, powerful. You
know, for a reason.
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So we had to hold steadfast
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and just really lean on
Him for all of our guidance,
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our direction.
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And so when Joy was born,
you know, we looked at our age,
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you know, we looked
at our support system.
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And so we just had
to put on our seatbelt
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and go fast-forward.
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Because you
wanted a third child?
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Right. No, no,
second. The second.
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Second child. Right.
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So all right.
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Because we
always teetered between
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that Jess being the only,
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in particular after dealing
with the death of his parents
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and the death of my dad,
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that that's the
time we really realized,
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you just don't
wanted only if you can help.
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And but we were
never brave enough to--
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or I should say I
didn't have the faith
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to take that step
and believe in God
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that He does
restore because He--
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But He did. Yes, He did.
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He not only restored,
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He gave you an
opportunity to increase
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because you had a third child.
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Yes, we do. Okay.
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And Karl is how old?
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Karl is three. He is three.
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He is three years old?
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Now, is it true
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that you are
looking for a fourth child?
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No. No, that is not true.
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Now, that is the rumor we heard.
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That's a rumor. That is a rumor.
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Who put that rumor out? I did.
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That's a first time heard that.
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Me too.
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Well, praise the Lord.
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Well, how is all, you
know, you are making it work?
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Tell us how you
are making it work?
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Yes, definitely.
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We are, we're relying on God
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for our strength
and our direction.
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And we rely on each other.
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I can truly say
Carl is my friend.
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All right. He is my friend.
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We don't have traditional roles
in our relationship except for,
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he has to pump the gas.
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I don't pump gas.
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You don't? She has never.
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No, ma'am.
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Can I just take a
moment, she don't pump gas?
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This is another
one of your moment.
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Well, you know what,
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I'm just going to just
have to make that decision too.
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Well, see that was
all before we got married.
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Was it in the wedding vows also?
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That was probably
was, yeah. Yes, a demand.
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Before the vow take.
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You say, I do
not pump gas. Right.
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So, you make sure her
tank gets filled every--
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The night
before. The night before.
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Yes. Yes.
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Now, you did you
hear that ladies,
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the night before?
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God is good.
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And on some occasions,
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we don't work that
far from each other
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so I can drive to
her job, leave my car,
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take her car and pump her
gas and then go back to my work.
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That's great, Carl.
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That is-- you know what?
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That's what I'm
saying, you're a real man.
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That is wonderful.
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You go to her
job, you go to her job,
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pick up the car, take it back--
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Yes, sir.
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You don't need
to linger in that.
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Because its no
point, you're not gonna win.
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Because that
situation I'm not gonna win so,
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that's why just
do what I need to do.
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You do what you need
to do and keep it moving.
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And keep it moving.
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Okay, so all
right now, you know,
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so how is it been having
two daughters and then Karl.
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Talk about that.
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They say girls
are easier than boys,
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what have you come to find out?
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I come to find out
that they both are unique
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and they both
present the challenges.
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Yes.
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And you worry about
them as a mom differently.
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Okay.
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But I don't find one
easier than the other.
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If I was to choose I would
say the girls are easier for me.
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Yes. And you?
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Karl is active
and I knew how I was,
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growing up my sisters
remind me all the time,
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you know, this is payback.
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You was sort of,
you was like this,
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not sort of like this
but you were like this.
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You were like this.
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So, it's to be expected.
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Boys are active, you know,
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you just have to roll with them.
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Now, you had-- just you
and your sister you are two?
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Right.
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And then you
had, it was just you--
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Just Tania and I.
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And are you
the-- you are youngest
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and you are the-- Exactly.
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See they're the same. Okay.
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If you don't mind?
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Oh, I don't mind. I'm--
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I'm so excited.
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I understand. Go.
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You know, one of the
things I was thinking about,
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you guys came
together, you know,
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did you have like
premarital counseling
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even though you got married
by the Justice of the Peace?
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I mean, what made
you make that decision
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that that you guys
can be husband and wife?
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Well, I think it was
little love and the friendship
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and the relationship itself,
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the foundation
and how I started out.
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And I knew that I wanted a wife,
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someone that I could trust
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someone that was
spiritually minded,
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someone that was smart.
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And Benita is real
quick with math and science.
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Real good
foundation and, you know,
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I just knew there was
someone else out there
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that could really
deal with me basically.
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Oh, that's great.
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Even with your experience
of four years at Andrews still
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and you came home
and there she was.
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Okay.
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In that process let me--
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I heard both of
you make reference to
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that you are friends?
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Right. Okay.
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What about disagreements,
how do you handle that?
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Well, you're gonna
have disagreements.
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At this stage,
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what I think the
real key with Carl and I
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is that I truly
understand his personality
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and he truly understands mine.
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So if he's slightly irritated,
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I don't take it personal
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because that has
nothing to do with me.
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It maybe where he's feeling,
he may not be feeling well.
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He maybe overwhelmed at
work. We maybe overwhelming him.
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So I don't take it personal.
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Some days I may speak
on it, some days I don't.
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It's the approach
now after 25 years,
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it's the approach.
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Okay. It's the truly approach.
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You really know that
person and you can tell,
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okay, he is not having a
good day because x, y, z.
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So you compensate for that.
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You know, he could tell
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if he wants to talk or not talk.
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How long did it take you to
get to that point, you know?
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Oh.
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Oh, for me on
how to deal with her,
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it's like a while, you know.
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And it was in--
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yeah, it's like a while,
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you know, you're a new husband,
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you know, a
husband and you're new
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and you're young because I
was about 24-25, I think 25--
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Twenty five.
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When I got married.
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And I was 20,
all the way loud 20.
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And you know, being I think,
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being the
youngest in the family,
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being the male, my two
sisters and my mom and my dad--
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So you were a little spoiled.
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That compensated, compensated.
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That's a good word,
okay. That it compensated.
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It compensated for me a lot.
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So I expect that
she should do the same
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and when it wasn't happening
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as fast as I
wanted it to happen,
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you have a lot of
questions like why?
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Well, wait a minute.
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What's wrong with her, you know.
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Then it--
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and time you be
and as you communicate,
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as you talk about each
others needs and desires,
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then you have to shift gears
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and you have to sort of
grow up and say, you know,
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maybe its time for me to step up
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and to worry about our needs
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as a couple as supposed
to my needs as a individual.
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Did you have any
problems like with in-laws,
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you know, I mean?
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Well, of course, every marriage
has some issues with in-laws.
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I mean, how much you
believe and this might be wrong
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but I'm a true
believer that when relationship
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start out really
good with the in-laws
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then you go have
that breaking of the ice
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and I think that its okay,
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to have some issues
initially with the in-laws
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and then the relationships
has to grow and has to bond.
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You shouldn't start
out bonding initially
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because some people
might not like other people
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coming into their circle.
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That's right. That's fantastic.
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You know, and so
once you understand
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let's just be for real,
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that let's take the relationship
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a little slow as far
as on my in-law level
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and just let God and
time bring that bond.
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Yeah.
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Now you both are
Seventh-day Adventist--
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Right. Right.
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Same denomination,
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you wanted to marry someone
in your same faith, you did.
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So you want to date someone,
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you know and
right after that date
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of Chi Chi's that
you know she was the one,
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did you know he was the one?
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No. No.
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No.
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Well, I had some
intuition, you know,
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in terms of she
might not be the one today
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but she might be
the one in the future.
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In the future, all right. Okay.
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You know, Carl's
always been deep,
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ever since I've known
him, since we were children.
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You're pretty deep too.
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I appreciate that.
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So I don't know
how to take that,
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you viewers, all right.
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But it was a compliment.
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You know, I
appreciate that, honey,
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I do, I really do.
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I'm happy. All right.
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So let me ask you this,
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in the midst of everything
how did Jessica adapt to,
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you know, Joy
and now little Karl--
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'cause I've seen
Jessica with her siblings,
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absolutely marvelous, you know.
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She adapted very well with Joy.
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I didn't realize how
much she wanted siblings.
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So when Joy came
along she was just ecstatic.
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She was very happy.
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They have a
wonderful sister bond.
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I think she was
little taken back at first,
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you know, by me being pregnant
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and then when Karl came
along, it only added to.
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Because to see the
three of them together
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there is no age gap,
it's just three children,
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three siblings enjoy each other.
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Fussing and laughing
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at the same
commercials and, you know--
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There is no age gap.
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You are not sure
who's 24, who's 7, who's 3.
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It's nice. Oh, adorable.
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It's really nice. Great. Great.
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You know, so in the midst now,
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Carl, you are a social
worker, clinical social worker.
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Yes.
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And you are into school system.
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The only profession-- Okay.
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That-- I mean--
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It's a great profession.
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It's a fantastic profession.
It's a fantastic profession.
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And sister
Dade, you are a nurse.
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Now you both and
you're in school?
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Yes, I am.
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And tell what
you're in school for
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and you're going back to school.
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All right, I'm
a registered nurse
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and I'm in school
now to complete my BSEd.
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Yes. Excellent.
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And you're in school where?
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I'm in school at
Eastern Michigan University.
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So, I guess you commute in--
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No, actually I just commute,
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just to Liviona,
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near campus and that's
just 30 minutes from the job,
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because I'm able
to leave the job.
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So just 30 minutes,
its only one night a week.
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All right.
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So it works.
Well, we make it work.
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You make it
work. We make it work.
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See they making it work.
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They make it. You make it work.
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You realize, one
thing that Carl and I
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were talking
about on the way over,
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is that your goals for
your family, they change.
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So they are constantly changing.
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So your roles in
the family will change.
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Yes.
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So depending on what
you're trying to accomplish,
00:16:09.65\00:16:12.23
depends on what
that person will do
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for that specific time period.
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It seems like
00:16:16.46\00:16:17.71
both of your professions
in the human service field,
00:16:19.07\00:16:22.10
it seems like that you
can support each other,
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you know, and
really help each other.
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Oh, yeah. And
Carl, you're in school.
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You're going back
to school next year.
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Right, for the PhD in
the social work program well,
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from Chipola University.
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You excited,
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both of you are
excited about that?
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I'm really excited, you know,
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taking it on another level.
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And you waited till the children
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got little bit older?
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Right. Yes.
00:16:43.93\00:16:44.97
So Carl, the day she has class,
00:16:45.00\00:16:46.51
you're getting the
children, you being off work?
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Well, I pick them up from school
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and then we come
home and we just go
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through the structure,
you know, the routine.
00:16:51.89\00:16:52.92
Do you cook? I've always cooked.
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You're good cook? I think I am.
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Is he a good cook? But
she cooks better than me.
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It's something
I have to realize,
00:16:58.86\00:17:00.91
I thought that I cook
some things better than her
00:17:00.94\00:17:02.80
but she does cook some things
better than me on the health,
00:17:02.83\00:17:05.74
more health conscientious.
00:17:05.77\00:17:07.76
You know, and I want to also say
00:17:07.79\00:17:09.44
that Carl and
Benita Dade also serve
00:17:09.47\00:17:13.12
on our Family Life Team
for the Lake Region Conference,
00:17:13.15\00:17:16.51
where they do
seminars and workshops
00:17:16.54\00:17:19.13
and they presented a
phenomenal team effort
00:17:19.16\00:17:22.75
and we're looking
forward to greater things
00:17:22.78\00:17:24.58
from the two of you.
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And our Junior
Olympics, yes, on that Sunday,
00:17:26.32\00:17:30.55
we're gonna
definitely have that back.
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So many parents have written us,
00:17:32.55\00:17:34.93
emailed us how much they
enjoyed it and they look--
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and the children say,
00:17:37.53\00:17:38.56
why can't we have it every week.
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You know, so it was a blessing.
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There's the
information that you provided,
00:17:41.70\00:17:45.00
in regards to diabetes--
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That was just right on
target with so many people
00:17:47.42\00:17:49.50
that came up to me after
it and they indicated that
00:17:49.53\00:17:53.00
that information
really helped them.
00:17:53.03\00:17:54.84
Wonderful.
00:17:54.87\00:17:55.90
As well as your
information, your presentation.
00:17:55.93\00:17:57.41
Both of you have a
certain style that I really,
00:17:57.44\00:17:59.93
really appreciate.
00:17:59.96\00:18:01.03
And it blends
together real well.
00:18:01.06\00:18:02.30
You know,
00:18:02.33\00:18:03.37
that works and also
just information alone,
00:18:03.40\00:18:07.47
I mean, you both
are pretty thorough
00:18:07.50\00:18:11.59
and so that's really helpful
in providing any information
00:18:11.62\00:18:15.71
to a group a people
and that motivates them.
00:18:15.74\00:18:17.65
And you did do that
with our Family Life retreat.
00:18:17.68\00:18:20.22
How do you deal
with issues of discipline
00:18:20.25\00:18:24.78
with the children?
00:18:24.81\00:18:25.84
What do you do?
00:18:25.87\00:18:26.90
I'm gonna say that,
00:18:26.93\00:18:27.98
I think between the two of us,
I think I'm the disciplinarian.
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You are the disciplinarian.
00:18:31.75\00:18:32.93
Jessica stated it very well.
00:18:32.96\00:18:34.24
She said, you know,
00:18:34.27\00:18:35.33
daddy didn't stress me
out very much growing up.
00:18:35.37\00:18:37.91
So I thought so
who did stress you?
00:18:37.94\00:18:39.87
And that was
because Jessica and I
00:18:41.59\00:18:43.65
have a lot of
character similarities.
00:18:43.68\00:18:45.18
Yes, they do.
00:18:45.21\00:18:46.25
And so I fostered a
lot of that in terms of
00:18:46.28\00:18:49.47
I could see some
of her challenges.
00:18:49.50\00:18:51.65
I was like, okay, that's
some of my challenges too.
00:18:51.68\00:18:54.09
That's one of my--
so I kind of compensate.
00:18:54.12\00:18:56.56
We compensate it
for each other a lot.
00:18:56.59\00:18:58.60
Which she felt
00:18:58.63\00:18:59.67
we're teaming up on
her but we really wasn't.
00:18:59.70\00:19:01.50
But they do, they actually
they compensate for one other.
00:19:01.53\00:19:03.87
Right. Wow. Interesting.
00:19:03.90\00:19:05.54
Very good.
00:19:05.57\00:19:06.61
How often do you go
and see Jessica in Ohio?
00:19:06.64\00:19:08.21
Once a quarter-- it
comes out quarterly.
00:19:09.74\00:19:11.22
Quarterly.
00:19:11.25\00:19:12.43
We're not happy with that.
00:19:12.46\00:19:13.56
You like to see her more?
00:19:13.59\00:19:14.90
We would like to see her more.
00:19:14.93\00:19:16.07
Especially for the children
00:19:16.10\00:19:17.32
because Joy really is
emotionally attached to her,
00:19:17.35\00:19:20.55
their bond, you know,
00:19:20.58\00:19:21.91
by her being a
female and Jess a female
00:19:21.94\00:19:23.81
their bond is different.
00:19:23.84\00:19:25.59
So she wants to see
her big sister more.
00:19:25.62\00:19:27.20
Definitely.
00:19:27.23\00:19:28.61
Where do you see yourselves
in the next five or six years?
00:19:28.64\00:19:33.26
Hopefully we will be
00:19:33.29\00:19:34.39
instructors at a university
or in a college setting.
00:19:34.42\00:19:37.63
Okay. That's
what you want to be?
00:19:37.66\00:19:39.22
That what we want to do.
00:19:39.25\00:19:40.31
And this all,
00:19:40.34\00:19:41.51
yeah this all goes
back to the children
00:19:41.54\00:19:43.04
because raising
them in an environment
00:19:43.07\00:19:45.94
that is can
conducive, they can gain,
00:19:45.97\00:19:48.72
something from, you
know, gain some spirituality.
00:19:48.75\00:19:52.30
How do you see
yourselves in your church?
00:19:52.33\00:19:54.85
You know,
00:19:54.88\00:19:55.91
when you see yourself with that?
00:19:55.94\00:19:57.38
You know, because you
are an elder in your church,
00:19:57.41\00:19:58.54
you know, elder, you know,
00:19:58.57\00:20:00.06
explain to our viewers
what an elder is in our church
00:20:00.09\00:20:03.06
and what are the
roles of the elder?
00:20:03.09\00:20:05.22
Well, the elder is a person
that basically is responsible
00:20:05.25\00:20:08.36
for the spiritual
growth of the congregation
00:20:08.39\00:20:11.27
or the members of that church.
00:20:11.30\00:20:12.71
And also the role of
the elder is to make sure
00:20:12.74\00:20:15.19
that the church is
spiritually fit consistently.
00:20:15.22\00:20:18.86
And so that means that
as a elder you might have
00:20:18.89\00:20:20.82
to roll your
sleeves up and feed people,
00:20:20.85\00:20:22.89
you might have to
roll your sleeves up
00:20:22.92\00:20:24.41
and go visit the sick
and those who are in need,
00:20:24.44\00:20:27.27
you know, of your
time and of your energy.
00:20:27.30\00:20:30.07
And you have to be a
person that's willing
00:20:30.10\00:20:31.82
to give spiritually,
00:20:31.85\00:20:34.28
emotionally, psychologically.
00:20:34.31\00:20:36.08
And work with your pastor.
00:20:36.11\00:20:37.25
And work with your pastor
00:20:37.28\00:20:38.37
because your
pastor is the nucleus.
00:20:38.40\00:20:40.03
Right, he is the nucleus.
00:20:40.06\00:20:41.36
You know, let me ask
you another question.
00:20:41.39\00:20:43.59
You were at one
church and basically grew up
00:20:43.62\00:20:47.40
at that church
00:20:47.43\00:20:48.50
and you made a
transition into another church.
00:20:48.53\00:20:50.41
What motivates a
person to change churches?
00:20:50.44\00:20:53.24
Do you know,
basically our motivating factor
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was because of Jessica.
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She attending
Peterson-Warren Academy
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and a great deal of her
friends also attended Peterson
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and she was at
that critical point
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where peer
association is important.
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So we sat down and
we made a decision that,
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you know, its okay
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to transfer membership
over to City Temple SDA Church.
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And that and Jessica
was our motivating factor
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for that particular.
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Carl and I can--
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it does not bother us
what church we worship in
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and participate in but we did,
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we made that move
particularly for her.
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And I see Joy and even Karl,
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even in the
children's choir their peers
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and their associates we
made a decision with Mica,
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you know, grew with
that about transferring
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from our City
Temple but she said,
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well, mommy, my
friends are here.
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And when she went to
the balcony guess what,
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we went to the balcony
and so until that time came
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when she left to go
off to boarding school.
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So we do,
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we do understand
and now even Aaron
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being 11 has her peers.
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But we have to guard who
are children is okay with.
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Aaron loves her church.
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She says, I don't
care what you are doing,
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I'm going back to City
Temple you guys can go anywhere.
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Anytime we would go church,
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I don't know
where you all are going
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but I'm going to City Temple.
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Okay. Praise God.
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So they do have a
voice. Yes, they do.
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And so it's important.
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Let me ask you,
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you want to be
college professor,
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I am a college professor.
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I've been a college
professor for 14 years
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at Wayne County
Community College District,
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I've taught at Wayne State
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and I've taught at
other universities.
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It can be demanding
but its so rewarding.
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And I believe that you
have the talent to do that.
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What talents will you
bring to those students?
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What will you bring
to them and offer them?
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I think I can offer
them the love of being
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progressive in your field.
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Not being stagnated,
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to be the best
professional as you can bring,
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and bring all your gifts
to your profession, you know.
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Yes. That's a blessing.
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And now from a
nursing perspective
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and hiring new grads,
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I see that there
is a lot lacking.
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There is a difference from
when I went to nursing school
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it was strictly no
nonsense, you were expected.
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So a lot of the
learning responsibility,
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it was on you.
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Now they provide a
tremendous amount of assistance
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and a lot is lost in
terms of critical thinking
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and problems
solving, taking initiative.
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Yes.
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And I would like
to bring that peace.
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I'm also passionate
about preventive health
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and conveying to the
students that you can be
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so proactive and be
your patients advocate.
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Oh. Let me ask--
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I like that. I like
that, say that again.
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Be your patients advocate.
You must be their voice.
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Let me ask this question.
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How do you keep your
faith in your profession
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or do you?
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Is it separate?
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There is no way
that I cannot. Okay.
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There are many
situations that you encounter
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and typically I ask
the Lord to go before me,
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let me see the things
that I need to see for the day.
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I can't be everywhere,
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I'm working currently now as
a sister director for nursing
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at a rehab facility.
00:24:05.06\00:24:06.55
So I cannot be everywhere.
00:24:06.58\00:24:07.71
So I ask the
Lord, go before me key--
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let me key into those
things that I need to key
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and that's
critical for a patient.
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And I know for me as
a school social worker,
00:24:17.19\00:24:20.08
I have to pray
before I get out the car,
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because you have to have
00:24:23.07\00:24:24.23
that listening
ear for your students
00:24:24.26\00:24:26.08
and you don't know
what's gonna happen.
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When you work in schools,
00:24:27.61\00:24:29.09
the element changes day--
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from day to day.
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So you have to be
geared up and have your armor
00:24:32.90\00:24:35.95
and your shield of protection.
00:24:35.98\00:24:37.51
You know, in terms
of having open mind
00:24:37.54\00:24:40.80
and being willing to listen,
00:24:40.83\00:24:42.54
be willing to give for that day,
00:24:42.57\00:24:44.57
you know, because like I
say a lot of things happen
00:24:44.60\00:24:46.46
during the course
of those six hours.
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Oh, you better believe.
That you are in that school.
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Yeah, and you know,
00:24:50.49\00:24:51.53
the other day I was
talking to a student at--
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like in one of
my college classes
00:24:54.10\00:24:55.86
and I just told them
they're on my prayer list,
00:24:55.89\00:24:58.03
I pray for them and
when I walk in the school
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I actually pray
before I get out the car
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because you may have a student
00:25:02.23\00:25:03.35
who's angry with
you, irate with you
00:25:03.39\00:25:04.99
and its so important.
00:25:05.02\00:25:06.37
I know, you're gonna
bring a lot to the table.
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What can you say to
our viewers right now
00:25:09.36\00:25:12.00
to keep making it work?
00:25:12.03\00:25:13.34
Encourage them right now.
00:25:13.37\00:25:14.43
Try not to think of
your spouse as the enemy
00:25:16.20\00:25:18.44
but as a team player.
00:25:18.47\00:25:20.35
You know, listen to the need,
00:25:20.38\00:25:23.03
you know, do not become selfish,
00:25:23.06\00:25:26.26
and you know,
balance out your life,
00:25:26.29\00:25:28.64
you know, keep your health up,
00:25:28.67\00:25:30.30
you know, and eat correctly.
00:25:30.33\00:25:33.13
Because you have to
have a balance health,
00:25:33.16\00:25:35.92
you know, to
deal with each other,
00:25:35.95\00:25:38.11
to deal with your children.
00:25:38.14\00:25:39.72
And we don't have the
best of family support
00:25:39.75\00:25:42.17
because of different situations,
00:25:42.20\00:25:43.46
different changes that
have occurred through the years.
00:25:43.49\00:25:45.80
So we have to depend
on each other totally
00:25:45.83\00:25:48.52
for basically everything.
00:25:48.55\00:25:50.19
We depend on God but
God give us the energy
00:25:50.22\00:25:52.64
to depend on each other.
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Each other. Right.
00:25:53.91\00:25:54.94
Right, fantastic.
00:25:54.97\00:25:56.25
Listen, we're
gonna come right back
00:25:56.28\00:25:57.31
and we're gonna close this out.
00:25:57.34\00:25:58.67
But we're gonna
come back in few seconds
00:25:58.70\00:26:00.85
and hear closing
marks from Benita Dade.
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Thank you.
00:26:03.56\00:26:04.82
Welcome back to
"Making it Work."
00:26:15.63\00:26:17.27
We're talking to
Carl and Benita Dade.
00:26:17.30\00:26:19.42
Benita, how to make it work?
00:26:19.45\00:26:22.07
Encourage our viewers today.
00:26:22.10\00:26:24.54
Cultivate a
friendship with your spouse.
00:26:24.57\00:26:27.19
If perhaps you
started off and you guys
00:26:27.22\00:26:29.49
were not true friends,
00:26:29.52\00:26:30.85
look at him, look at her
00:26:30.88\00:26:32.58
and begin to
cultivate a true friendship,
00:26:32.61\00:26:35.84
a spiritual base friendship.
00:26:35.87\00:26:37.76
Yes.
00:26:37.79\00:26:38.89
Put his or her needs first
00:26:38.92\00:26:40.47
and the rest
tremendously will follow.
00:26:40.50\00:26:43.09
My goodness. Well, I'm excited.
00:26:43.12\00:26:45.54
I've learned some
things here to how to continue
00:26:45.57\00:26:47.47
to make it work.
00:26:47.50\00:26:48.63
Congratulation on 25
years. God bless you.
00:26:48.66\00:26:52.32
It's a blessing. Yes.
00:26:52.35\00:26:54.04
Well, we thank you, our viewers,
00:26:54.08\00:26:55.91
for being with us
00:26:55.94\00:26:57.00
and we look
forward to another segment
00:26:57.03\00:26:58.85
of "Making it Work."
00:26:58.88\00:27:00.05
I'm Dr. Kim Logan Nowlin.
00:27:00.08\00:27:01.66
I'm Arthur Nowlin.
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God bless.
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