Participants: Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin (Host), Arthur Nowlin
Series Code: MIW
Program Code: MIW000010
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00:01 Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin.
00:03 Welcome to "Making it Work." 00:38 Our last segment we dealt with where's Arthur Nowlin, 00:42 where do we start, and how do we finish. 00:45 Well, we talked about where do we start. 00:47 We started in Gary, Indiana, being born and raised 00:51 into a nuclear family, mother and father, 00:54 having three brothers, two older brothers, 00:56 and one younger sibling. 00:58 His two older brothers have passed on 01:00 and his sister Connie 01:02 from a previous marriage of his mother. 01:05 He has gone to Vietnam and he served in the military, 01:09 in the air force and where he was injured. 01:11 Came home and he became addicted to heroin, 01:15 started using and selling the drug. 01:19 One day he received a phone call 01:20 from his cousin Joe Smith related to his mother 01:24 and said, "I need you to come. 01:25 What are you doing with your life?" 01:27 And he said, "I want to go to school." 01:29 He said, "Well, then, you need to move to Ann Arbor." 01:32 Well, Arthur didn't want to go to Ann Arbor 01:33 because it was cold. 01:35 But his uncle, his cousin said to him, 01:37 "If you don't come, I will come and get you." 01:40 Some time had lapsed and his cousin called again, 01:43 "Why aren't you here?" 01:45 And then Arthur moved and relocated to Ann Arbor. 01:49 Joe Smith and his family took him in, 01:52 and they loved him as their very own. 01:54 He and his wife, Dorothy L. Smith, 01:57 who we've come to love dearly. 02:00 Now how do we finish? 02:02 Since that time earning his degrees 02:05 and coming and being a part 02:07 of the Seventh-day Adventist message, 02:09 but remember he was born and raised Catholic, 02:11 attended Catholic schools. 02:13 And then one day, he met a wonderful, 02:15 beautiful woman by the name of Kim. 02:19 And through that he came into this wonderful message. 02:22 And I don't say that lightly 02:23 because I really allow the Lord to minister to me. 02:29 And I was not going to compromise. 02:32 I did not want to marry out of my faith 02:34 and I did not want to become unequally yoked 02:37 being married to someone 02:38 who was not a Seventh-day Adventist. 02:40 I wanted to marry someone in the same denomination, 02:44 the same church, to work together. 02:46 But Arthur was Catholic. 02:48 So I invited him to church. 02:51 And he's going to tell you the rest. 02:53 Welcome back, Arthur. How are you? 02:55 I'm fine, Kim. How are you? 02:56 I'm good. I want to say, 02:57 you know, I know this is not easy. 02:59 I know that you shared a lot of personal information, 03:02 but I know that truly God is being used 03:06 through this broadcast. 03:08 So now you accepted this message. 03:10 You were-- You came to church. 03:11 Tell them what really captivated you. 03:13 Actually, we have to really step back to-- 03:15 Okay, step back. 03:17 You know, prior to church, 03:18 you know, when I first saw you, 03:20 and you first saw me. 03:21 You were with your cousin Karen. 03:23 I was with my cousin Karen at a function. 03:25 At a function for Dionne Warwick. 03:27 I think it was something 03:28 where it was related to AIDS prevention 03:31 or something like that. 03:33 And I was there with some friends of mine. 03:37 And we were acting as a makeshift security force. 03:42 Right, that's right. 03:43 So we were trying to give the presence of a security. 03:48 And you came in, 03:50 and our heads turned to you and your cousin. 03:53 And they wanted to find out right away 03:56 who are these women coming into this place, you know. 03:59 And that's how we first met. 04:00 That's how we initially met. 04:01 Yeah, you introduced yourself and I introduced myself. 04:04 But you can't forget the clincher, 04:06 when I saw you sit down, 04:08 your friend told me that you were married. 04:10 Yes, he did. 04:11 He said that Arthur was married. 04:13 And I prayed all night, and I knew it, 04:16 and I told my cousin Karen, he's the one. 04:19 I'm gonna marry him. 04:21 But when he sat down, it was his socks, 04:24 he had on the most beautiful socks. 04:27 See beautiful socks. 04:29 And that was it, I'm telling you, 04:31 because my father, grandfather, and my uncles, 04:33 they all wore beautiful socks. 04:34 You tell that story everywhere-- 04:35 It's the truth. It's the truth. 04:37 You know, some people get captivated by other things. 04:40 It was your socks. 04:41 So I'm gonna let you tell the rest. 04:43 You know, this socks thing, 04:45 but when I found out that you were attracted to socks, 04:47 I went and got me a few more extra pairs. 04:48 Yes, few more socks. 04:50 You know, so that worked real well, you know. 04:51 All right, what you did, tell the truth, all right. 04:55 So, but after that 04:57 we had the opportunity of attending 05:00 another function together. 05:03 Yes, we did. 05:04 You came separately, you know, with-- 05:06 That was with my girlfriend Rita. 05:08 And I was with a friend of mine that I worked with. 05:11 Yes, yes. 05:12 So we kind of connected. 05:17 And you eventually found out that I was not married, so... 05:21 Yes, I found out through another mutual friend. 05:24 You know, I said, "I met Arthur Nowlin. 05:26 He's such a wonderful person." 05:28 And I said, "Too bad he's married." 05:30 I said, "Oh, I didn't mean to say that." 05:32 And she said, "What? 05:34 Arthur is not married. 05:35 Arthur is divorced." 05:36 And I said, "Really?" 05:37 I said, "Does he have any children?" 05:39 She said, "One son." 05:40 I said, "Someone told me he was married." 05:43 She said, "Well, they didn't tell you the truth." 05:45 And I'm here to tell you I really started praying then, 05:48 all right, asking God for another opportunity. 05:52 I ran into you at the bank, 05:54 but my whole ego was crushed 05:56 because he didn't remember me. 05:57 I didn't remember you. 05:58 I was devastated. 06:00 Only the first minute I didn't remember you. 06:02 Right, because I had on a hat. 06:04 But how are you gonna not remember me. 06:06 Yeah, it was something. I paid the price. 06:09 Right, well, well, listen, you were taking care of business 06:11 and counting your money. 06:13 And my other secretary was urging me to come over 06:15 and say something to you. 06:17 So I was just, oh, my God, I was already-- 06:20 I knew he was the one, 06:21 and especially when I found out you weren't married. 06:24 So I called your job to invite you 06:27 to come on my radio program. 06:29 Yes. 06:30 But guess what, his boss came instead. 06:33 I was like, okay, I can't-- I can't do this. 06:35 And so I'm trying to help out God. 06:37 God did not need my help. All right? 06:39 You know, so I said, 06:40 "All right, I'm gonna be still." 06:42 So our mutual friend was having a program. 06:45 And I said, "If you can get Arthur Nowlin 06:49 to your program I will come 06:51 All right? 06:52 I will support your son's PAL football team." 06:56 Yeah, that's right. PAL. 06:57 PAL was trying to get uniforms, so I said I would contribute. 07:01 So when Arthur walked in 07:04 I ran to the restaurant to just fix myself. 07:07 Yeah, but you didn't just run to the restaurant. 07:10 What did I do? 07:11 You must've tore your skirt in the car 07:13 to look more attractive. 07:14 Oh, that was the first time. 07:16 I tore the skirt by accident. 07:17 No, this was-- No, this was-- 07:19 The first time at the Dionne Warwick 07:21 when you first saw me. 07:22 You know, the second time 07:24 I didn't-- I had a pant suit. 07:25 Well, okay, if you say so, 07:26 but I know there was a torn skirt in there somewhere. 07:29 It was a torn skirt the first time, 07:30 but it was a accident, you know. 07:32 I kind of think you did it on purpose. 07:34 But the key was that, 07:36 you know, the skirt or the conversation, 07:39 God reconnected us for such a time as this. 07:42 And it was so strange, you know, 07:44 because we kept running into each other. 07:45 We kept running into each other. 07:47 So after that you called me, 07:50 and you asked to meet with me. 07:51 And we went to eat lunch. 07:53 And guess what, he put everything on the table. 07:56 He told me everything about himself, 07:57 his marriage, his divorce, 07:59 his child, his substance abuse issue. 08:02 I was like, no way I'm marrying this man 08:05 or getting involved with this man. 08:07 He had too much baggage, too much baggage. 08:10 So you end up-- 08:12 you were going to the blues club 08:14 because he plays the harmonica, you know. 08:16 And he said he would get out 08:17 of that blues club about 10 o'clock. 08:19 I said, "Well, I'm in bed." 08:20 So one Monday night he came home early, 08:24 and guess what, you called me. 08:26 And then I said, "You're home awful early." 08:29 And he said he wanted to talk to me. 08:31 And I tell you from there it just snowballed. 08:35 Yeah, everything seemed to connect because-- 08:38 I mean, I made a decision that night. 08:40 You know, but one of the key components to all of this 08:46 is during this whole time you didn't know, 08:50 but I was still searching 08:52 to develop a relationship with the Lord. 08:55 I didn't know how to do it 08:57 because I even went back to trying to go to mass 09:01 on a regular basis 09:03 before I would go to play golf on the weekend. 09:06 And I would think that, 09:08 I said something is going to happen. 09:09 I'm going to reconnect. 09:11 But one of the things 09:12 that kind of made it difficult for me was 09:15 when I attended the mass, 09:18 no one ever came up to ask me my name, 09:20 who I was or what I was even doing there. 09:23 That whole time? That whole time. 09:24 And that was for about a year. 09:26 No one asked you any questions. 09:27 Ever. Okay. 09:28 And so it just dawned on me, 09:30 this is not where I'm supposed to be. 09:33 All right. 09:34 But when you invited me to church, 09:37 and you told me about going to church on Saturday 09:40 I kind of questioned. 09:41 I was like, go to church on Saturday? 09:42 Who goes to church on Saturday? 09:43 He laughed at me. 09:44 You know, but I was still searching, 09:47 I was willing to go. 09:49 And let me say that the clincher was 09:53 when I walked into the church, City Temple, 09:56 and as I went inside that church 09:59 I saw groups of people in certain areas, 10:03 and they were doing something, 10:05 communicating and conversing. 10:07 And it seemed like it was so exciting. 10:09 And I got excited just coming in. 10:11 I said, "What are they doing here?" 10:13 You said, "It's Sabbath school. 10:14 I said, "This is where I need to be, 10:16 this is what I need to do, 10:18 because I need to find out about the word of God." 10:21 Let me explain to you what Sabbath school is. 10:24 It's a meeting where we discuss a lesson. 10:28 We receive a booklet every quarter, every 3 months 10:31 in the Seventh-day Adventist church. 10:33 They're written by different minister 10:35 within our denomination. 10:37 And in that we have classes in our various churches. 10:40 So when Arthur came in that Saturday morning, 9:15, 10:45 he saw these different groups studying, 10:48 and he was searching, looking, 10:50 and that's when I directed him to the new believers class 10:54 under the balcony and he started studying 10:57 in his Sabbath school quarterly. 10:58 Yes, and it's been a blessing ever since. 11:01 You know, because it really helped me thrive. 11:04 Yes. 11:06 Can I ask you a question? Yes. 11:07 What happened in your first marriage? 11:10 It was still uncertainty, 11:14 still depression, 11:18 not really dealing with reality, 11:22 still using drugs and selling drugs, 11:24 and the drugs thing because in my first marriage 11:27 it was a good relationship up until that point. 11:32 You know, and when my son came, 11:37 I stayed with him for the first 6 years of his life, 11:41 and then I separated from the family. 11:45 Your wife divorced you? Yes. 11:46 That was difficult. 11:47 It was very difficult. 11:49 You know, but I had to accept the responsibility, 11:52 that was the difficulty, me accepting the fact 11:55 that my lifestyle caused me to lose that marriage 11:58 and the relationship with my family. 12:01 Okay, we're talking about a family, 12:03 you lost your family. 12:04 And it was devastating. 12:06 Once again, and I was just, 12:08 I knew that I had to do something to change my life 12:12 because that's when my life turned around. 12:16 Because after losing my family, 12:18 I said, "I'm not going through the rest of my life like this." 12:21 And I just made the decision 12:25 that I wanted to change my lifestyle and I did. 12:28 You went through AA or NA. 12:29 I went through-- Narcotics anonymous. 12:31 NA for a while, 12:33 about 4 years, but prior to that, 12:36 God works in mysterious ways. 12:39 I went to my doctor and said, 12:41 "Look, I need some help," 12:43 and I said, "I need to find a way 12:46 to get away from this lifestyle 12:48 once and for all." 12:50 And this doctor said to me, 12:51 "Well, look, I have arranged-- 12:53 I can arrange a flight for you tomorrow 12:58 to fly you to New York 12:59 where you can participate 13:00 in a recovery program in New York City." 13:03 I mean in White Plains, New York. 13:05 Yes. 13:06 And so I flew there 13:08 and somebody was waiting for me at the airport. 13:11 They took me to this place that was like a resort. 13:17 And before I walked on the first step, 13:20 I had made a decision, 13:22 the decision was made that 13:24 whatever these people told me to do-- 13:27 You were willing to do that. 13:28 I was willing to do it. 13:29 You were ready for a change. 13:30 I knew I had to change. 13:31 I knew my time was running out 13:33 because I recognized that, 13:36 I kept hearing "I should've been, 13:38 I could've been, I would've been." 13:41 How old were you by that time now? 13:42 I was, I think, about 28. 13:48 Twenty-eight. 13:49 So what kind of relationship were you having now 13:50 with your ex-wife, your son, 13:53 and where was that going? 13:54 With my ex-wife our relationship was good. 13:57 I mean we're friends, we can communicate. 14:00 Okay, but I'm saying during that time. 14:01 During that time, my son was still-- 14:06 He was still connected to me. 14:08 And my ex-wife, 14:09 her relationship with me was good. 14:12 She recognized that I was trying to change, 14:14 but she had to go on with her life. 14:15 She got to go on with her life. 14:16 So you went through that program and you got clean? 14:19 Yes. 14:20 Got clean, praise God. 14:21 And I never turned back. 14:23 How long have you been in sobriety now? 14:25 Twenty-five years at least. 14:27 So you've been clean from drugs 25 years. 14:29 Yeah. 14:30 That's wonderful, Arthur. 14:31 It's a blessing. 14:32 But some things have happened to you, too, 14:34 because of your choice of drugs. 14:35 Absolutely. 14:36 What are some of the health issues 14:37 that you're addressing now? 14:38 Right now I'm dealing with diabetes. 14:42 I'm dealing with liver disease. 14:45 And it becomes difficult at times. 14:48 I've seen you go through some difficult times. 14:50 Yes, at one point a while ago, 14:53 I would say, maybe about 5 or 6 years ago, 14:56 it was really severe. 14:57 It was very touch and go. 14:58 We almost lost you. We almost lost you. 15:01 It was some really difficult times but-- 15:02 And I think-- 15:03 I remember waking up one day, he was bent over, 15:05 and he was in so much pain because he was on the chemo, 15:08 and that was prior to even then. 15:10 Yeah, that was actually about 10 years ago. 15:12 And they said he only had a short time to live. 15:14 And I'll never forget, 15:15 I went to the hospital to get him. 15:17 I went into the room and they said, 15:20 "There's nothing else we can do." 15:21 And I said, "No." I refused to believe that. 15:24 And I got in touch with a lady who did holistic, 15:28 and she introduced us to pycnogenol and echinacea. 15:32 These are herbs. 15:33 And I met a gentleman who was a doctor 15:36 out of the Kellogg Foundation in Battle Creek, Michigan, 15:40 and he was here in Detroit. 15:42 And he said, "Can you meet with me now?" 15:45 I had to literally help Arthur get dressed. 15:48 He leaned on me all the way into the car. 15:50 I had to put him in the car, he was so frail. 15:53 We got there, about 20 minute drive, 15:55 and he looked at Arthur, 15:56 and he was able to tell him 15:58 exactly what was wrong with him. 16:00 He said, "We got to change his diet. 16:01 We have to let go of a lot of things, 16:04 but this can-- his life can be saved." 16:07 And that has been almost what, 15 years ago, 15 years ago. 16:11 It's been a blessing. It's a learning experience. 16:14 I mean, 16:15 we all have different adversity that we have to deal with. 16:20 It's just how you deal with it. 16:22 Yes. And that's the lesson learned. 16:24 That's the lesson learned, how you deal with it. 16:27 I had to recognize that what I did, 16:29 you know, 16:30 caused some inconveniences for me 16:32 because of my poor decision making. 16:37 But the best decision 16:39 I made was searching for my relationship with God. 16:43 Right now, 16:45 I have no qualms about what has happened to me, 16:48 I have no problems about sharing my experiences 16:52 because God saved me. 16:54 It has nothing to do with just me changing diet. 16:58 It has nothing to do with me, 17:00 my experience in meeting this doctor or that doctor. 17:05 What it has was the motivation, it was the light, 17:09 the guiding light is my relationship with God, 17:12 and how He has provided for me, how He's directed my past. 17:16 So, you know, and He's directed it, 17:18 Kim, in such a mighty way. 17:20 I mean I just had to sit back and just enjoy the glory 17:23 that He's given me. 17:24 And I'm not bragging on this situation. 17:29 Well, I'm just saying 17:30 this is the goodness that He has demonstrated to me. 17:33 Well, not so much to enjoy the glory because 17:34 all the glory goes to God, 17:35 but enjoy the blessings that He's given to you. 17:38 Yes, the blessing. All right, the blessing. 17:40 Let me say also that during-- 17:41 since your baptism you served as a deacon in your church, 17:46 your home church City Temple, Seventh-day Adventist church, 17:49 Family Life co-director with me on a local level. 17:53 You have served 11 years 17:55 as the Motor City Federation president, 17:58 that is a organization of 21 churches 18:00 that come together to help support our youth, 18:04 and we have special programs for weekend period. 18:07 Then from there went on to join me in private practice 18:11 with Kim Logan Communication as my deputy director. 18:14 And working somewhere. 18:15 And working at other facilities also. 18:19 Radio, television, writing articles, 18:22 we've co-authored books together, 18:24 and now you and I are the co-directors 18:27 of the Lake Region Conference Family Life Department. 18:29 Yes. 18:30 And that's where I first heard this testimony, 18:32 this story, and now here we are together 18:35 doing this broadcast "Making it Work." 18:37 Yes. 18:38 I'm so proud to you. 18:40 Well, it's the Lord. 18:42 I know it's the Lord. Everything is the Lord. 18:44 And, you know, 18:45 I really give credit to my sister. 18:50 Because the thought that was planted in my mind 18:55 when she hit that bed talking about what she could've been 18:58 and should've been and would've been. 19:00 That was the motivation, 19:01 that was the thought that continued to stay 19:04 with me no matter what. 19:05 No matter what. 19:06 And it also put me on a timeframe because I said, 19:10 "If I don't change my life, 19:12 there's no other alternative but for me to hit a bed 19:16 and say what I should've, could've, would've been. 19:18 " It also opened a door for me to be adventurous 19:22 and say I can do all things through Christ 19:25 who strengthens me. 19:26 Tell them your favorite scripture. 19:28 You know, 19:29 "Trust in the Lord with all thy heart 19:30 and lean not on thine own understanding. 19:33 In all thy ways acknowledge Him, 19:35 and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5, 6. 19:40 And truly he has leaned on the Lord. 19:42 I remember some of our adventures. 19:46 We've traveled to so many wonderful places. 19:48 And he would tell me, you know, Kim, 19:50 just learn to have fun, learn to smile. 19:54 You're all business, business, business, 19:55 but do you ever take time out to enjoy 19:58 what God has given you? 20:00 And I was like, 20:01 "Well, I'm doing this, I'm doing that. 20:02 " He said, "No, no, no. Have fun." 20:05 And I remember our trip to Europe, 20:07 we were in London, 20:08 and I wanted to go to Buckingham Palace 20:11 and I wanted to go Piccadilly Square. 20:14 And Arthur from one subway to another subway, 20:18 everywhere we've gone, 20:19 and we've traveled to some marvelous places, 20:22 and you just soak up life, every moment, 20:25 you use it, 20:26 you don't want to waste anything. 20:27 You are on an immediate call like you've got 20:31 to get things done, 20:32 and you sense this in your whole life. 20:34 It's a testimony. It's a testimony. 20:36 Because God has spared my life for a particular reason. 20:40 For such a time as this. 20:41 And this is our time. 20:43 And this is the moment that he wants us to go out 20:46 and let other people know. 20:48 Everybody's not born into the church camp. 20:49 No, they're not. 20:50 And let me reiterate, 20:52 and when he says born into the church, 20:54 when you're born into a family being Christian, 20:58 being saved, being baptized, 21:00 I was born and raised Seventh-day Adventist, 21:03 where I kept the Seventh-day Sabbath. 21:05 I worshipped on Saturday, and I still do. 21:07 He, Catholic, but he deviated. 21:10 But what happens into your lives, 21:12 there comes a choice, you said that earlier. 21:13 Absolutely. 21:14 What happens to our lives we have to make a choice. 21:15 Yeah, and you make decisions 21:16 if that's going to benefit your life or not. 21:21 I have no problem going to a school 21:23 and talking to young people and to let them know 21:25 that they will experience some adversity. 21:28 They will experience some trials and tribulations. 21:31 But it's how you handle it and how you pick yourself up 21:34 and you continue to move forward. 21:36 Because I was approached with drugs 21:37 and alcohol in school, elementary, middle, 21:39 high school, even in college, 21:41 and I attended Seventh-day Adventist schools. 21:43 But I made a choice. I said no. 21:46 But then again, too, 21:47 I had substance abuse in my family. 21:49 My father, he was an alcoholic, 21:51 and I knew I did not want that for my life. 21:53 And I didn't want to marry an alcoholic. 21:55 I didn't want to marry someone who used drugs. 21:57 And I did want to marry someone in the same faith. 22:00 Because my parents were not of the same faith 22:03 and it caused a lot of devastation 22:07 in my childhood. 22:08 So I knew what I didn't want 22:10 because I experienced something else. 22:12 So, Arthur, when you accepted the message, 22:16 other people were coming up to me and saying, 22:18 "Well, are you gonna marry him? 22:19 What are you gonna do?" 22:20 And I said, 22:21 "When God tells me to marry him." 22:23 And I never rushed him. 22:24 I think we had to probably work out some issues 22:28 among ourselves of how to love 22:30 and how to accept and how to trust. 22:34 That's really important when people come together. 22:36 It's just not coming together to the point where, 22:42 okay, we're gonna get married. 22:43 What's important is you have to recognize if you can 22:47 really love that person and trust that person, 22:49 trust and be a team player with that person. 22:53 And then we did receive 22:54 Christian counseling from our pastor. 22:56 We went through premarital counseling. 22:58 I do recommend that. 23:00 You know, Arthur, I just-- I mean what can you say? 23:03 You know, I mean, 23:04 it's just so much 23:05 to all that has happened in our lives and, 23:08 you know, Lord blessed us. 23:09 We have beautiful children, 23:11 we have three beautiful children 23:12 who we love, 23:13 and you're a good father, you're a good provider. 23:16 I'm blessed, I got a good family. 23:17 And you're a hard worker. You're a hard worker, 23:19 and I appreciate that. 23:20 I'm very hard working. Yes, you are. 23:21 And I come from-- My family is that way. 23:23 They were all hard workers, 23:24 and they worked in a steel mill in Gary, Indiana. 23:25 You know, 23:27 and my father worked in a steel plant. 23:28 And you know what else? 23:29 Arthur and I are both third child, 23:31 we're the third child. 23:32 A lot of similarities. 23:34 A lot of similarities. 23:35 You know, except I cannot talk-- 23:37 I'm more loquacious than you. 23:39 Yes, you are. 23:40 You know, you are a gifted writer. 23:42 You're very loquacious with your words 23:44 and your vernacular, 23:46 and the way you come across. 23:47 We team up really well, you know. 23:49 And I love you. 23:50 And I say this with all sincerity I love you. 23:53 I am in love with you. 23:55 I'm very blessed that you are my husband. 23:58 I appreciate that, Kim, 24:00 because I also, I'm blessed. 24:01 I'm blessed that we've come together, 24:04 that the Lord has directed our path. 24:06 And I just looked at-- He's not done with us yet. 24:10 No, He is not done yet. He's really not. 24:12 Can we have some more children? 24:13 He's done with that. 24:16 I keep trying, I keep trying. 24:18 He's done with that, Kim. 24:19 You know, to my viewers, 24:22 this is our story, or my husband's story. 24:26 And we didn't keep anything from you. 24:28 No secrets, 24:29 because secrets can destroy a family. 24:33 But when I think about all that my husband's gone through 24:36 and the pain, I saw him use, 24:41 when he had to give himself the medication, 24:45 when he was on chemo, and he was so frail. 24:50 And I just prayed to the Lord, 24:52 "Please don't take my husband, please." 24:56 And they told me until he was healthier 24:58 I could not conceive. 24:59 But I knew God was able. 25:02 I want you to continue to pray for us, 25:05 pray for his health, 25:06 pray for me as his wife to be in Biblical order, 25:10 to take good care of him, 25:12 for us to take care of one another. 25:13 Yes. 25:14 But I'm here to tell you that through Christ, 25:17 through Christ, 25:18 God can strengthen you and there's nothing 25:20 too hard for God. 25:22 And God is not finished with this family. 25:25 And I want you to know that you're never alone. 25:28 Never. 25:29 Never alone. 25:30 I want Arthur to just offer a short prayer 25:33 for those who are hurting today and in need. 25:35 Let us pray. 25:39 Dear Heavenly Father, 25:40 we're so grateful that You've allowed us to let people know 25:44 that no matter what that You are there to assist them, 25:48 to help them to get through their trials 25:50 and their tribulations. 25:52 We ask now that You send out a mighty blessing 25:55 to all those that may be experiencing problems 25:58 with substance abuse. 25:59 No matter what the sin is, 26:00 oh Lord, we ask that You help us 26:02 to provide them a beacon of light. 26:06 In Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. 26:19 In closing, Arthur, 26:20 what can you say to someone 26:21 who's now addicted to drugs, 26:24 going through something like this, 26:25 what can you say? 26:26 There's a way out, there's a way out. 26:28 You just have to keep searching. 26:30 You never can stop searching to find relief, 26:34 to eliminate the pain 26:35 because having any type of addiction is painful. 26:39 And you don't have to experience that pain. 26:41 God doesn't want you to experience that pain, 26:44 but Satan is comfortable with you 26:46 to experience that pain. 26:48 The enemy. Yes. 26:50 Well, all I can know is that my husband-- 26:52 You know, are you happy? 26:54 Are you having a good time? 26:55 I'm having a great time. 26:56 You're enjoying your life and you're golfing. 26:58 You love to golf. 26:59 You know, there's a trip that's coming up. 27:01 I know. 27:02 He's getting ready to take that trip, 27:03 and I'm excited. 27:04 Can I learn to play golf next year with you? 27:06 Kim, I don't think the Lord wants you to do that. 27:08 Why? 27:09 Why do you want to put it on the Lord? 27:10 I think he wants you to stick to tennis. 27:12 Stick to tennis. And I'm going to do that. 27:16 Well, we want to thank you 27:17 for joining us in our personal testimony 27:20 of "Making it Work." 27:22 I am just excited for what God is going to do 27:24 in your life and for you and your family. 27:27 There's help out there, there's Narcotics Anonymous, 27:31 there's Alcohol Anonymous, 27:32 there's substance abuse centers. 27:34 There are 1-800 numbers available. 27:36 You can call our office at 313-898-8200. 27:41 And you can speak to Mr. Nowlin yourself 27:43 and he will help you. 27:44 He will walk you through 27:46 and get you to the right facility 27:48 or right person to help you become better 27:52 and healthier and to continue to fall in love with Jesus. 27:56 I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin, 27:58 and thank you for joining us on "Making it Work." God bless. |
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