Participants: Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin (Host), Arthur Nowlin
Series Code: MIW
Program Code: MIW000009
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00:01 Hi, I am Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin
00:03 and welcome to "Making it Work." 00:38 You might be wondering where Arthur is, 00:41 usually he's sitting right next to me. 00:43 Well, today we're going to talk to you 00:46 from the Nowlin view point. 00:48 We're in this with you everyday, parents, 00:51 we're married, profession, working together. 00:55 How to make it work? 00:56 And we want to share some things with you. 00:59 About a year ago I had opportunity 01:01 to hear my husband speak at a church. 01:04 And I was really moved by his words and his testimony. 01:09 And I felt that he should share that with you. 01:13 How you're doing, Arthur? 01:14 I'm doing great, Kim. How about yourself? 01:16 You know, it's different. 01:17 I'm good, I'm good, thank you 01:19 but, how does it feel to be in that seat versus this seat? 01:22 I'm a little nervous. 01:24 No. 01:25 And I'm a little apprehensive because you're the host 01:29 and you gonna direct these questions to me. 01:31 That's right, I get to ask you 01:32 all these questions, you know. 01:34 But I really want to, you know, praise God 01:36 for you and your testimony 01:38 and your willingness to do this because it's that easy 01:42 what you're about to share 01:43 and all of that you're gonna share with our viewers today. 01:46 And we want you to know that you're not alone 01:49 and I wanted Arthur to know that you're not alone. 01:52 God has seen you using some, some miracles, 01:54 I mean truly some miracles. 01:56 Absolutely. 01:57 Well enough from me, I want to, you know, 01:59 talk to Arthur about his testimony. 02:02 I know you were born and raised in Gary, Indiana. 02:04 Gary, Indiana. 02:06 And you were born into a nuclear family 02:08 which is a mother and father. 02:10 Absolutely. 02:11 And you have three other siblings, 02:12 male siblings and one sister. 02:14 Well, I had three male siblings, 02:19 one female sibling 02:20 and three of my siblings have passed away. 02:23 Three of your siblings have passed away, 02:25 your older brother Ronald, David and your sister Connie. 02:30 All right, you've one living sibling 02:32 Freddy, who is in Gary, Indiana. 02:34 All right, so you attended school 02:36 and you were born and raised Catholic. 02:39 Yes, I was baptized-- 02:41 You were baptized Catholic, all right 02:42 and you attended Catholic schools? 02:44 Yes, seventh till about the eighth grade, 02:47 seventh, seventh grade. 02:49 Okay, but something happened to you 02:51 during that time, what happened? 02:54 Well, I recognized that, at very early age, 02:58 I was visiting a lot of hospitals to see my mother. 03:01 My mother was ill for a quite a while. 03:04 I think it was from about age four to about seven 03:09 and my brothers and I would go 03:12 and see her at different hospitals and periodically 03:15 she will come home and stay a while 03:17 and then she will go back to the hospitals. 03:19 Okay, I'm sure that was very disturbing 03:21 for you being so young. 03:23 It was difficult. Very difficult. 03:25 Okay, and at that time your father was running 03:28 the entire household because mother was really sick. 03:31 And I think God had a special plan 03:34 because my father was a very good provider 03:39 as well as he, he managed to do 03:42 a lot of things around the home that, the cooking. 03:47 And the cleaning and he worked, he worked 03:51 and then he came in and he would do that. 03:53 He was a special person. 03:54 Well, he did that dual role-- 03:56 He did that dual role, very supportive to your mother. 03:58 Absolutely. 03:59 So at what age did you lose your mother? 04:02 My mother passed away when I was seven years old. 04:04 Seven years old? What did that do to you? 04:08 Devastated, I was devastated, you know, one of the things 04:12 that I used to do on a regular basis 04:14 and I'll never forget this, 04:16 is that I would make excellent grades during that time 04:22 because I felt that that was one way 04:24 that I would help my mother to get, to get better. 04:27 I see. 04:28 So in my mind the more grades that I brought home 04:31 that were good would cheer up 04:34 because when I brought it to her 04:35 and I would take it into her room 04:37 and she will go through and ask me questions about it 04:41 and she will have this tremendous smile on her face 04:44 and so I said, well, I'm gonna keep doing this. 04:47 You know, so that was a motivation for me 04:51 to do well in school, you know. 04:54 So but when she passed away, what happened? 04:56 It was, it was very difficult because when she passed away, 05:01 I happen to be in outer room of her bedroom. 05:04 Okay. 05:06 And it was early in the morning. 05:08 And I heard my mother crying and I heard the agony. 05:15 None of my other siblings heard that. 05:16 Only you. 05:18 Only yeah, well I guess, only me. 05:20 And during that time 05:23 my father rushed out of the bedroom 05:25 and made a call and the ambulance came 05:29 and then by that time my brothers 05:31 and everybody was awake. 05:33 Oh, no. 05:36 During that time it was very difficult 05:38 so that next year, school year for me. 05:42 I failed. 05:44 You failed? 05:45 I failed, that was at third grade I think. 05:47 And you failed at third grade, 05:48 so you have to repeat the third grade. 05:49 Yes. 05:50 And your grades just... 05:52 Nobody came to really ask how I was doing. 05:57 During that whole process... 05:59 That whole process... 06:00 Relatives, no one, the priest in your church. 06:03 The only thing that they wanted to do 06:04 was they wanted to split us up. 06:06 They wanted to move the boys to different homes. 06:08 They wanted me to go to one home 06:10 because one of my, well as a matter of fact 06:13 he was a neighbor, a neighbor down the street 06:15 who said that I want to take care, take Arthur in. 06:19 I want to raise him and some of my relatives 06:22 wanted to split my other brothers. 06:25 My sister was already out of the home, she was grown. 06:27 She was grown, so your father said no. 06:29 He said no. 06:30 And he kept his children together. 06:31 Right. 06:32 That is to be commended. 06:34 Yes, definitely. 06:35 So you repeated that grade 06:37 and you went on through elementary and middle school. 06:40 Another devastating point for me, 06:41 I mean because the people I was in school 06:44 with that came to me for answers... 06:48 Right. They have matriculated on. 06:49 They went on. They moved on. 06:51 And then you had to repeat that in the same school. 06:53 In the same school. 06:54 In the same school, all right. 06:56 So during that time, all right, 06:58 so you made it through the grade, you repeated it, 07:00 went on to middle elementary school, middle school 07:03 and during that whole time 07:04 it was still difficult, still very difficult. 07:06 It was difficult 07:07 because I got a lot of reminders. 07:09 At one point what happened was Mother's Day, 07:15 you know, people would at that, 07:17 a while ago we wore like different flowers, 07:20 I don't know... If they still do... 07:21 They still do right. 07:22 The red corsage meant that your mother was alive, 07:26 the white one meant that she had passed on. 07:28 Correct. I used to hate that day. 07:29 You did. Yes. 07:30 Mother's Day. 07:31 And but my father would always come home 07:34 with all these corsages 07:36 and, you know, we have to wear them. 07:37 You've to wear them. Yes. 07:38 So you got through that, all right. 07:40 So now, did you have any friends growing up? 07:42 Did you have friends in the community, 07:43 the neighborhood friends? 07:45 Well, I had friends, I was pretty popular 07:51 after I went to the seventh grade, 07:54 went to eighth grade for some reason I started 07:58 becoming pretty talented in sports. 08:02 Like in basketball. Basketball. 08:04 Basketball was the thing for me. 08:05 So, you know, the better I was, 08:07 the more people wanted me to be on their team 08:10 and I got to know a lot of people. 08:12 Was popularity important for you 08:13 at that time of your life? 08:15 To some extent. Okay. 08:16 But still it was a loss. It's still a loss. 08:19 It was still a loss, I'm still dealing with that loss 08:21 during that whole time. 08:22 Okay, were you and your siblings close? 08:25 No, you know, I mean, I mean we wanted to be close 08:28 but we didn't know how, I mean, my brothers were, 08:31 you know, a little older than I was 08:33 and so they had their own world that they dealt with. 08:36 So it was very rare 08:38 where we went to a certain places together. 08:42 And my father would, you know, worked late 08:44 and then come home and do things around home 08:47 and cook, I mean he was a excellent cook, 08:49 I mean so much so he could bake 08:50 in all these different things 08:52 and people would ask him to bake. 08:53 They would ask if he would bake cakes 08:55 and pound cakes and stuff so. 08:57 In the community? Yes. 08:58 That's wonderful. You know, so... 09:00 So now you're about to finish, you made it through the school. 09:03 You're playing basketball 09:05 and you're coming out of high school. 09:06 You graduated from high school? 09:08 Okay, then what transition happened after high school? 09:14 The first semester I was supposed 09:16 to go to college, I had made, made to-- 09:23 I was accepted into a particular college. 09:26 Okay. 09:27 And but some thing happened 09:29 and I didn't go that first semester after high school 09:32 and then I got drafted by the military. 09:34 All right, so you didn't go to work, 09:36 while you're waiting to get in school you got drafted? 09:39 I worked but it was like a part time job. 09:42 I see. In the mills. 09:43 Okay, so you got drafted all right, 09:45 you drafted into the US Marine Core? 09:48 No I went to the army, I was drafted by the army 09:50 but I went to the air force. 09:51 You went to the air force, okay. 09:53 Then from there you served three and half years, 09:56 honorable discharge? 09:57 Now why didn't you finish out your term or what is it called? 10:00 I did finish it on, I mean, I was discarded early outage. 10:02 Okay, why did you get early outage? 10:04 Well, basically I was wounded while I was overseas, 10:08 you know, in the military. 10:09 All right. 10:10 And when I came back I really, 10:13 I came back to Michigan as a matter of fact 10:15 and then, and I didn't really like going 10:19 to my new assignment. 10:22 So I wrote my congressmen and I complained about 10:25 coming from a tropical climate 10:27 to a freezing climate in Michigan 10:30 and we called suicide marine mission. 10:31 And it was cold up there. 10:32 Very extremely cold. 10:34 And they moved you after you wrote to your... 10:35 Well, my congressmen wrote back and I was trying to figure out 10:38 what, I mean why was I'm given that assignment. 10:42 So I brought attention to myself 10:45 and so they indicated that they wanted me to go 10:47 to another assignment in Japan. 10:50 But they wanted me to enlist 10:52 for another three years and I said I can't do it. 10:54 Then you said no. And they gave me early out. 10:56 Oh, I see, all right. 10:58 So from there, now you're back in Gary, Indiana. 11:01 Yes. 11:03 Okay, what's going on in Gary? 11:04 What's the climate of Gary now? 11:05 Gary is going through a transition, 11:07 terrible transition, 11:08 I mean drugs that infiltrated the city. 11:11 A lot of the people that went to high school with 11:13 that I knew had participated into organized crime. 11:19 And it was, the crime had become so... 11:25 What, devastating? 11:28 Difficult for a lot of people to the extent 11:32 where people were shooting and killing relatives, 11:36 it's so, it was a very difficult time 11:39 and unfortunately people that I knew had been assassinated, 11:47 killed because of that lifestyle. 11:49 So you left Gary, Indiana 11:52 seeing this city one particular way, 11:55 you know, thriving family and then you go away 11:58 for three and half years 11:59 to serve your country, come back 12:01 and it's a whole different climate. 12:02 It was so difficult because I can remember 12:04 one time I was, I saw a friend, 12:06 I went to school, I had a friend with me 12:09 and we went to go talk to him 12:11 because I had just returned home 12:15 and as I walked over to see him, 12:18 I saw these people come out between the houses 12:20 and they had like rifles and, you know, 12:24 and so we continued to stay on the corner, 12:27 but the friend I went to talk to, he left. 12:30 And this lady came out 12:32 and she said you need to leave off this corner. 12:35 That's what she said? 12:36 She told, told me 12:37 and my friend you need to go, now. 12:40 So she said those guys that came out, 12:43 they are coming for you. 12:44 For you? Yes. 12:45 Why were they coming for you? 12:46 They thought that we were on the corner to sell drugs 12:49 and we were invading their territory. 12:51 I see. 12:52 So by the time we got to the car, 12:55 they had turned the corner and they shot at the car 12:57 and they shot against the wall, 13:00 bullets were bouncing all over the place. 13:02 It was worst than me being in overseas in Vietnam. 13:05 It was worst? 13:07 It was worst, I mean 13:08 because, I mean it was just that close. 13:10 That close. 13:11 Truly God ha His hands on you even then. 13:13 Absolutely, because later it came out 13:15 that it was a mistaken identity. 13:18 And how many lives have been taken 13:20 due to mistake of identity? 13:21 Absolutely. 13:22 So now you're back in Gary, Indiana, 13:23 so what did you do? 13:25 How did you, you know, 13:26 did you get a job, go to school? 13:27 What was going on? 13:28 I got it-- I was working as I indicated 13:30 but also I was participating in a lifestyle with drugs 13:35 and, you know, selling drugs and doing those things. 13:37 And you were using the drugs? Absolutely. 13:39 Okay, what was your choice of drug? 13:41 I would be using marijuana, heroin 13:44 different things like that. 13:45 Okay, now you were shot 13:48 and some of the fragments are still in your arm now? 13:50 Were you put on any type of drugs 13:52 when you were in the military? What were you put on? 13:55 Well, we were, I was on morphine for a while, 13:57 that's the first time I ever really... 13:59 Any type of substance in your bodies, you know... 14:02 I was mostly athletic my whole life. 14:04 So your body stayed pure. Yeah. 14:06 All right, so did you get addicted to the morphine? 14:09 For a while, I mean yes. Okay. 14:13 You know, and then when I came out, 14:15 you know, it was just 14:16 when somebody introduced me to heroin. 14:19 And heroin, okay. And tell us what is heroin? 14:22 What does it do to your body? 14:24 It's a substance that is made from the opium plant 14:26 and it's more of a downer. 14:29 You know, and it can destroy your body, 14:32 I mean it destroy your internal organs. 14:34 How long were you using 14:35 that everyday, every other day? 14:37 No, I wasn't but, you know, it was enough 14:40 because at that time it was like 99% pure heroin 14:44 that the Vietnamese and that Cambodians 14:48 they used that as internal warfare. 14:52 As internal warfare. 14:54 So now you're addicted 14:55 to the heroin, all right, tell us? 14:58 It was a difficult process 15:01 to get out of my life, you know. 15:03 I can remember when I came home that sister of mine that 15:08 I didn't really have contact. 15:09 Connie? 15:10 Yes, Connie came to, this is right 15:13 after I got back to the United States, 15:16 having got back to Indiana. 15:18 She came and found me to find out 15:20 you know, how I was and she wanted to be with me. 15:24 Well, my sister had already been in a lifestyle. 15:26 My sister was a very attractive woman. 15:29 She knew a lot of people 15:30 and she was in the lifestyle where she was a kingpin. 15:34 And what is that? 15:36 That means that she was selling drugs 15:37 and she was involved into a five state cartel 15:41 at that time, you know. 15:43 And she was using drugs also? 15:45 Yes, and she told me about this place 15:49 and we went to, she went to show me 15:51 where this place was and I didn't even know, 15:54 I've been in the city all that time 15:56 and she, and I went into this hotel 16:01 where she knew the people. 16:03 And she intravenously used drugs at that time 16:09 and she almost, and she almost died. 16:11 And she did this in front of you? 16:12 Yes, and the person that was in the house said, 16:16 man, you need to take your sister. 16:18 And you need to get her out of here 16:20 because if she doesn't move around, 16:22 she's going to die. 16:23 And so I walked her up and down the hall 16:26 and I had just been home for about may be, 16:29 may be about a month, 16:30 I walked up and down the hall back and forth, back and forth, 16:33 I was afraid and, you know, there was people 16:35 looking out of the doors, 16:37 it was really a place I didn't need to be. 16:40 You know, but that's the lifestyle 16:42 that we both were in at the time. 16:43 And then that's where she would go 16:45 and she will use drugs and then... 16:46 She was from South Bend, Indiana 16:48 because she was living out of Gary. 16:50 So she came because she heard about 16:53 the drugs and stuff that was in the Gary. 16:55 And you didn't know about this place. No. 16:57 When you found out about this place, 16:58 did you go back to that place to use drugs? No. 17:01 You never went to that place. No. 17:02 All right, but you went to other places. 17:04 Yes, and fortunately for me what happened after that 17:10 is my mother's relative found out that I was in Gary. 17:16 And he came and he was looking for me. 17:20 Okay. 17:21 And he found me and he came to my home 17:25 and he asked me what was I doing. 17:26 That's Cousin Joseman? 17:27 Yes. All right. 17:28 And so he said that I need you to come with me 17:35 and come and live with me. 17:36 Well, I was totally perplexed 17:38 because I didn't have that type of relationship with him 17:40 and why would he want me to come? 17:44 But he kept insisting, 17:47 he asked me what do you want to do? 17:49 And I said well, I said Jodi, I want to get education. 17:52 Okay. 17:53 I said but I'm too deep down 17:55 involved in this type of lifestyle. 17:57 And you wanted to get an education, why? 17:58 Why did you want to be... 17:59 Because that was one of the things 18:00 I took from the military. 18:03 I met a lot of people, 18:04 and lot of people that had education 18:07 and that they insisted they said, whatever you do man, 18:11 you know, get your education. 18:14 And one friend of mine that didn't make it back, 18:17 you know, he kept insisting that I'd do, that I'd do, 18:20 so I was really motivated to do. 18:22 All right, okay. 18:23 So Jodi asked me, my cousin asked me 18:25 to come up to Ann Arbor, Michigan. 18:29 Where I swear I'd never return there 18:31 because it was so cold out there. 18:32 It was cold, all right. 18:34 And I said I'll come that January, 18:35 I'll come after January and I'll come and I'll try. 18:39 I didn't show up. 18:41 He called to my home 18:42 and said if you don't come I'm coming to get you. 18:44 He said I'm coming to get you? 18:46 He was that emphatic about 18:47 you being out of that environment 18:49 and come in to live with him. 18:51 Yes. All right. 18:53 And so... 18:54 That's why he goes back to a state 18:55 when it takes a village, 18:56 a family the support, all right. 18:59 So he came and got me, 19:00 well, he didn't come and get me 19:01 but he insisted that I come. 19:03 So I drove up and his family opened the doors 19:07 and they welcomed me in 19:08 and they treated me just like a son. 19:11 Just like that, you just moved in just like that. 19:12 Yes. 19:13 You know, now you hear that about other cultures 19:15 but you don't hear that too much 19:17 in the African-American culture. 19:19 And you went and you lived with them 19:20 and you went to school? 19:22 And straight in, they put me in school, 19:23 I went to Washtenaw Community College for my first year. 19:27 I graduated with that associate in about a year and half, 19:31 as I was just taking course and course and courses. 19:34 Well, they are in liberal arts? 19:35 Liberal arts. All right. 19:36 Then I went to University of Michigan. 19:38 Okay. 19:39 While I was at the University of Michigan 19:40 a strange thing happened to me. 19:42 And what was that? 19:44 My sister was dying and I got a call 19:48 from my brother indicating that, 19:50 you know, if you don't go see her soon 19:52 that you'll miss her. 19:54 So I was in class that day. And I went straight home. 20:01 And I got some things and I just drove down the road. 20:04 Well, in fact, one of the things 20:07 that did not happen 20:08 was he didn't tell me where she was located. 20:09 He didn't tell me what hospital in South Bend, where she was... 20:12 You didn't know anything? 20:13 I didn't know any of that. 20:14 But I'm just driving down the road, 20:16 you know, and I didn't have a cell phone at that time. 20:19 Because you were determined to find your sister. 20:21 I just saw, I thought about. 20:23 So I drove down the road and as I drove 20:26 and finally got to South Bend, Indiana, 20:27 I recognized the dome at Notre Dame. 20:31 And I said, man, I don't know. 20:33 I got to get to a phone 20:34 or some thing to call and find out. 20:36 But I drove a little further, passed Notre Dame 20:39 and it was a hospital on the right side of the road. 20:43 I pulled into this hospital I said well, let me try here 20:47 and I went up to at the park, I went into the hospital 20:50 and went on to the information desk, 20:53 but it was so crowded and it was, it was confusion. 20:56 Yes. 20:57 And I couldn't talk to anybody for while and I got frustrated. 21:00 I just started walking down the hallway. 21:03 You just helped yourself. 21:04 I walked down the hallway and this hospital had beds, 21:08 I mean different hospital rooms on the first level. 21:11 Yes. 21:13 As I walked on the fourth room that I came to, 21:17 I looked to the right and there was my sister. 21:19 Right there? Right there. 21:20 You found your sister? Yes. 21:22 With out anyone assisting you? Nobody helped me. 21:24 No one. 21:25 You know, as I walked into the room, Kim... 21:28 Yes. 21:29 The doctor came behind me about may be five seconds later 21:33 and asked me to leave. 21:35 He said, I'm sorry but I need to talk 21:37 to my patient and you can go. 21:40 And she raised her head up 21:42 and said whatever you have to say 21:43 you can say it in front of him, that's my brother. 21:45 My, my, mine. 21:47 I stood by and wonder, Kim, 21:50 and as I stood there he told my sister, 21:53 he said, Connie, I had all the tests that we've had. 21:56 He said we've come to the conclusion 21:59 that there is no hope. 22:01 He said it's just a matter of time. 22:03 He said there is no hope? 22:05 He said there is no hope. It's just a matter of time. 22:08 What did that do to you at that moment, 22:09 when you heard those words? 22:11 I was like mortified. 22:15 I mean why did I have to be here at this time, 22:19 you know, but... 22:21 But in a way, and that interruption was good 22:23 because she didn't have to hear those words alone. 22:26 Yeah, I mean if that could add any comfort... 22:30 You know, I was there as support. 22:34 As I walked over to her, to the bed though, 22:37 to grab her hand or some thing 22:39 because I obviously didn't know what to do. 22:41 She reached and pulled her fist up 22:43 and hit the bed with all her strength. 22:46 The IV pole is shaken and she just hit the bed 22:50 and she said, I should have been 22:53 and then she came down 22:54 and she hit it again, Kim, I mean, boom. 22:57 And she said I could've been anything I wanted to be. 23:00 And she hit it third time, boom, 23:03 I would have been, I should've, I could've, or I would've been. 23:08 And all I could do was just crying out 23:10 as I reached out to grab her hand, 23:13 I noticed, you know, tears running down her eyes. 23:16 Yes. 23:17 And I said to myself, I do not want to die like this. 23:20 That's what you said? 23:22 I said that. 23:23 So she's thinking now, you know, remembering 23:25 and reflecting what her life could've been 23:28 if she had not used the drugs. 23:30 And now here you are using the drugs 23:32 and you're saying I cannot die like this. 23:35 Right, even though I was in school 23:36 I'll go back and use drugs 23:38 and stop and sell and do all that, 23:40 even though I was in the school... 23:41 You're still dabbling in the drug life? 23:44 So where by seeing your sister like that... 23:46 It kind of opened my eyes. 23:50 I mean because I just knew I didn't want to die like that. 23:53 Now here is your sister dying, his sister is dying 23:56 and how, you know, God works in mysterious ways. 23:59 And how those words all this time 24:02 possibly no one else, school, coming back 24:04 from Vietnam, living through it. 24:06 You made it, but seeing your sister... 24:09 Yes. 24:10 Hitting that bed. Yeah. 24:12 That turned your life around? 24:13 Yes, because it didn't stop me right there, 24:17 because when I went back, I still managed to maneuver 24:21 and do the things that I was doing. 24:23 But in the back of my mind it was planted, 24:25 the seed was planted. 24:27 If you don't turn your life around, 24:30 then this is what you have, it's waiting... 24:33 And I didn't want to die like that. 24:35 We got about three more minutes and so much of the story, 24:39 you know, we're gonna try to do a part two. 24:41 But I want them to understand 24:43 and know the pain you've endured 24:46 and the hurt but not only that, 24:48 how God has brought you to this wonderful message. 24:51 God brought me here because I was searching. 24:54 You know, remember I didn't want to die 24:56 using anything with that lifestyle, 25:00 but God found the way. 25:02 He put His hands on me, I know He put His hands on me, 25:05 all of the states that I've told you. 25:06 You know, they happened in my life 25:08 and, you know, my sister finding her 25:11 that was confirmation, 25:12 I knew that he had His hand on me in special way 25:16 and I knew that He had things planned for me 25:18 that I had not idea. 25:20 All I had to do is to be open to it 25:23 and recognize that through Him, He was gonna protect me 25:26 and He was gonna introduce me to new things. 25:29 Oh, yes. I had to be ready for it. 25:31 All right, we gonna bring Arthur back in a few minutes 25:35 but just hold on because we want you to know 25:38 how God brought all this together. 25:40 We'll be right back with Making it Work. 26:02 If you've have just join us today our topic, 26:05 Where do we start? How do we finish? 26:08 And my husband has been sharing his testimony 26:13 and there's so much, so we're going to have to do 26:15 a part two to the story, because there's so much 26:18 and I don't want you to miss any of this. 26:21 Arthur, you've shared so much about your life. 26:24 Losing your mother, going to Vietnam, 26:27 being shot, coming back, 26:29 being addicted to morphine or heroin. 26:33 Seeing your sister die but then God still, 26:36 He delivered you from substance abuse, 26:39 brought into His marvelous light. 26:40 How can you just tell us briefly, 26:42 how did you come 26:43 into the Seventh-day Adventist message? 26:45 It was strange case because I tell everybody 26:47 all the time, I was chasing a skirt. 26:49 He always says he was chasing a skirt. 26:51 You know, and so. 26:53 You just happened to have that skirt. 26:54 And I was wearing that skirt, all right. 26:57 I mean that was the beginning 26:59 but I had a burning desire to find out 27:04 what did God want me to do? 27:06 Yes. 27:07 And I had a burning desire 27:09 because I never doubted that God existed. 27:11 I just felt that, you know, 27:13 I had been dealt a real difficult blow. 27:17 All right, so you were baptized, 27:18 I will also say he earned his associate, 27:20 his bachelor science in education LMSW 27:24 from Wayne State University 27:26 as a clinical licensed social worker. 27:28 Married and but before we were married 27:31 he accepted the church, the message, baptized 27:34 and he became a part of the Lake Region Conference, 27:38 Family Life Department. 27:39 It's so much to this story 27:41 but most of all he gave his life to the Lord. 27:43 Arthur we get it to part two. Can we do part two? 27:45 I don't know, Kim, we had to do some special, 27:47 had to cook something special. 27:48 I'm going coo because you've got to know part two. 27:51 Listen, I got to close this out 27:54 but I want to thank you for joining us. 27:57 God has His hands on this man 27:59 and he brought him into my life. 28:01 I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin, Making it Work, God bless. |
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