Participants: Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin (Host), Arthur Nowlin (Host), Donald & Bettye Bryant
Series Code: MIW
Program Code: MIW000003
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00:01 Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin. And I'm Arthur Nowlin.
00:04 Welcome to "Making It Work." 00:38 Arthur, how are you today? 00:40 I'm fine, Kim. How about you? 00:41 I am good. 00:42 You know, today our segment is going to talk about 00:45 "Crossroads," paths coming together. 00:49 Two lives, two different backgrounds coming together. 00:52 Right. Let's welcome our guests. 00:54 We want to welcome, Donald and Bettye Bryant. 00:57 Welcome to "Making It Work." How are you? 00:59 Good, thank you. I'm fine. 01:00 Good, we want to thank you for taking some time 01:02 out of your schedule to be with us today. 01:04 Well, listen, tell us, how long you've been married? 01:08 Three years. Three years. 01:09 Now we are going into the third-- 01:11 October 18th was our third year anniversary. 01:13 It's your third year. Congratulations. 01:15 Newly wed still, newly wed, okay. 01:18 Well, tell us how did the two of you meet? 01:21 Well, my version was-- 01:23 Oh, you have two different versions here, all right. 01:26 I'm sure there'll be but my version was, 01:28 I was brought to the church, 01:31 one of my ladies that worked the kitchen, 01:34 Soup Kitchen where I stayed. 01:36 Okay. 01:37 And she said, "Well, why don't you come to church with me?" 01:40 And I was kind of hesitant of course 01:42 because I had-- she says it's on Saturday. 01:46 Well, okay I'll come, so I came. 01:49 And I was at a function later on that evening at the Church. 01:54 And I saw Bettye down there. And she attracted me. 02:01 Because I kept looking at her 02:02 and she kept looking this way and I kept looking that way. 02:04 Okay, he was kind cute. 02:05 And she invited me to dinner to her home. 02:07 Okay, oh that how soon after you both 02:10 you meet him did she invited for dinner? 02:12 That day she invited me to dinner. 02:13 That day. That day. 02:14 Too quite. 02:15 Now that's his version. Now that's his version. 02:16 Absolutely. 02:17 Okay, well let's hear your version, okay. 02:21 I remember meeting him downstairs 02:23 and also remember him coming back to church. 02:26 And, Mrs. Turner, the lady who ran that kitchen 02:30 introduce me to him 02:33 and then I invited him to my home. 02:37 Said sure, because I felt impressed 02:39 by the Holy Spirit, 02:40 I wasn't about a physical attraction 02:42 or anything of that nature. 02:43 Although I thought he was cute. 02:45 All right. All right, all right. 02:46 she said that he wanted to more about the Lord 02:49 and they had been having these discussions after the dinners 02:52 and they would talk and get into the deepest discussions. 02:56 I think the one discussion that was about speaking in tongues. 03:00 And she said he needs to talk to somebody else 03:03 and so I started visiting with him 03:06 and I started giving him Bible studies actually. 03:10 And I would invite him to church, 03:12 I would go by to pick him for church, 03:14 he wouldn't be anywhere around. 03:17 That happened a lot of times. 03:19 And I said, you what Lord, I'm never coming back. 03:23 Forget this he is not interested 03:24 in learning about You. 03:26 And one of his friends said to me, 03:29 "Don't give up on him." 03:30 And the Holy Spirit told me, don't give up. 03:33 I had no clue that I would 03:35 actually be married to him today. 03:37 I truly didn't. All right. 03:38 And God just continue to work with him 03:40 and work with him and at one point I said listen, 03:43 when you get yourself together, you call me. 03:45 All right. Oh, okay. 03:46 Because I'm out. You get yourself together. 03:48 So you just ended the relationship? 03:49 I ended everything. 03:51 Where were you when she came to pick you up? 03:54 Well, I stayed at my own little apartment at that time. 03:58 And I was waiting for her all the time, 04:00 I was wondering, I was saying, 04:01 is she gonna really coming and get me? 04:04 And she came and I was-- I tried to get myself together 04:08 and get dressed and so I would be going 04:10 to the church appropriately. 04:11 I thought she was a very wonderful person at that time. 04:14 I knew there was something was about her, it attracted me. 04:18 Other that just her, it was something about 04:20 with the message that she was bringing to me, 04:22 because I was searching at that time. 04:23 You were searching? 04:24 I was very-- well, I was searching. 04:25 Now were you-- I'm sorry. 04:27 Were you part of another church or denomination? 04:30 Yes, I was, I was going to a church, a Baptist church, 04:35 and I knew I was in the wrong place. 04:37 But I still wanted to have the Lord in my life. 04:41 It was something about, I had to go the Church. 04:43 Somehow the Lord was kept drawing me, 04:46 although my lifestyle wasn't that way. 04:48 I wasn't that type of person. 04:49 I was not a Christian type of guy at that time. 04:53 But I still-- I'm still trying figure out 04:56 where were when she was coming to pick you up? 04:59 I'll tell you. All right, tell us. 05:00 Honey, you can't do not go let him to. 05:02 Yeah, she can tell. He won't get it right. 05:04 Okay. All right, all right. 05:05 He was living at this place where you could come 05:11 and, you know, you could have room there. 05:12 He was living there. 05:14 This was before he got himself to a point 05:17 where he wanted a change in his life. 05:20 He wanted things to be different 05:22 and he did get into a program 05:24 that helped him with substance abuse 05:27 and all of that kind of things, which is where he met you, Kim. 05:30 And that's when he was-- when he finished that 05:34 that's when he got an apartment but before that time, 05:37 he was out doing some things that, 05:39 you know, he wanted, he felt, you know, 05:40 he wanted do at that time. 05:42 And let me say also that the Lord was good 05:44 because Donald was estranged from his family for a long time 05:50 and he wouldn't communicate with anybody in his family 05:55 and once we got together, somehow, someone-- 05:59 an attorney called my house 06:01 and said that they were looking for him 06:03 and they wanted well, to get in touch with him 06:06 because of his fathers estate and that's during the same time 06:11 that he told you to ask me give him a call. 06:15 And that's when I called him 06:16 and he reconnected with his family after, 06:20 I don't know how many years. 06:22 He has four daughters, 06:23 a brother and cousins and everybody. 06:25 Unfortunately his father passed 06:27 before he could reconnect with him 06:29 but he reconnected with his family 06:31 as a result of all of that. 06:33 Let me ask now, so in the process 06:36 you hadn't had any contact with your daughters? 06:39 I was ashamed of myself, my lifestyle, 06:41 that's what the problem really was. 06:43 I was totally ashamed of how I had an education, 06:47 I had-- my family was brought me up right, 06:50 then I curved away from that. 06:52 How much is your education? After my mother died. 06:54 Well, I had got two years associate degree 06:58 and you know that much education, 07:00 as far as I was concerned, 07:02 was lot for as far as our family was concerned. 07:04 It is a lot. 07:05 And at a time, they were really seriously, 07:07 they loved me and I felt ashamed 07:10 because if my father had saw me like I was at that time, 07:14 prior to going to operation get down 07:16 he would have just shook his head. 07:18 That would have hurt me right there, 07:19 you know, because of what he had-- 07:21 put invested into me 07:22 and it didn't turn out the right way. 07:25 So that's why I was really didn't connect with him. 07:28 And then being out there 07:29 in that type of world of course, 07:31 you might you about something like that 07:32 how it draws you away from what you supposed to do. 07:35 And it drew me away from that. 07:38 That's the reason why I wasn't connected to them. 07:40 And so in the meantime, I mean, we are still dealing 07:45 with Bettye searching for you and to encourage you. 07:50 Which I knew nothing about. I really didn't know that. 07:52 She hadn't given up on you. Okay. 07:55 During the time that we were apart, I still prayed for him. 07:59 Okay. 08:00 I still asked the Lord to bless him wherever he was. 08:03 He moved, he moved to Chicago 08:06 and thought that that was going to work, 08:07 the Lord brought him right back to Detroit. 08:10 And through his searching he went into a program 08:13 and said you know, I'm gonna change my life, 08:16 things are going to be different for me. 08:17 He made contact with you when he came? 08:19 After Kim gave me the massage, I made contact with him. 08:22 And we stayed in contact with one another. 08:24 The most important part there was-- 08:27 I remember Kim at the church when I first came there. 08:31 I remember seeing her there and Mother Turner, 08:34 you all remember Mother Turner? 08:35 I know Mother Turner. 08:36 She is the one-- and so I used to see you 08:39 there in the choirs and doing some other things and so. 08:42 When I saw you at the school I was like flabbergasted, 08:44 I said what in the world. 08:46 And let me tell you a little about the program. 08:48 I was the clinical psychologist 08:51 and employment probability trainee 08:53 and speech therapist and sign language instructor 08:56 at this particular program for homeless, 08:59 substance abusers and lot of different aspects. 09:03 So Donald was in my program and remember Donald, 09:06 I came and one day at exercise I asked the class 09:10 how do you play football and Donald, 09:11 you did the diagram and showed me 09:13 all the players and everything. 09:15 Such smart man, I looked up at church 09:18 and because I always witness in my classes, 09:21 always talk about my church and tithe and offering 09:25 and the Lord Jesus Christ in all my classes. 09:28 And I looked up at church one Sabbath on a Saturday at church 09:32 and there was Donald and I was flabbergasted, 09:35 because you don't know how the Holy Spirit is working 09:37 through your works and your actions. 09:40 That's right I could see you like an angel in my life 09:42 because of the fact that-- 09:43 Oh, did you hear that, he said an angel. 09:46 I didn't mean to hurt you. 09:47 That's so beautiful. Can you say that again? 09:50 We asked you to maintain focus, keep it on you and Bettye. 09:55 Okay, all right. He said angel. 09:57 I consider her an angel because-- 09:59 Isn't that beautiful? 10:00 Well, I came here, I mean I was there. 10:01 Because she the one that was putting me 10:05 on right path in one way and in another way 10:09 she was helping me reclaim my lady. 10:12 Didn't you remember when I came that day? 10:14 Oh, yes, I do remember. Am I angel as well? 10:17 You're an angel too. Okay, put it that way. 10:19 I have to say Arthur, you were my angel. 10:24 Because when first-- I became Seventh-day Adventists 10:28 at maybe age 17 and our pastor Joiner 10:33 was the one who baptized me in Montgomery from a tent. 10:37 I got away from the church and all of its beliefs lo 10:41 and behold he was in Detroit. 10:43 Yes. 10:44 And when my brother told me that he was in Detroit, 10:47 I went back to church 10:49 and I gave my heart to the Lord again. 10:51 And at that time, 10:52 I was struggling with substance abuse 10:55 and he and Sister Joiner 10:56 was the one who told me about you. 10:58 And you started me to go 10:59 to Narcotics Anonymous and I hated that. 11:03 I hated those sessions, those people were crazy. 11:05 And I said Lord, you have to get me 11:07 out of this another way. 11:09 And the Lord just took it from me. 11:11 Whole desire. Whole desire. 11:13 The take out of your whole-- 11:15 Yes, I would go for walks, 11:17 so that you know, and drink plenty of water. 11:20 And, you know, you guys were very encouraging to me 11:22 because when I couldn't feed myself, 11:25 I could go to your house and you would give me fruits 11:27 and vegetables out your garden. 11:28 I'd just go through your freezer 11:30 and just give me food and whatever 11:32 because I wasn't on my feet. 11:34 I was a nurse at the time. 11:35 I've been a nurse for over 30 years 11:37 but I was struggling and the Lord just delivered me. 11:40 So yes, you were my angel. 11:42 I needed to hear that. Did you hear that? 11:43 Yeah. We have two angels. 11:44 That's a blessing, Arthur. 11:48 I know, I mean, and I want you to remember that. 11:50 And you know, when Bettye you would come 11:51 to the house then you became part of God's Hands of Praise. 11:55 Yeah, it's fun. It is fun. 11:56 You just, you know, and we still part 11:58 of God's Hands of Praise, that's my sign language choir 12:01 where we do sign language 12:02 and we've been in existence now 17 years. 12:05 And Bettye has been a part of my choir for many years. 12:08 But you know it's a very strange 12:11 because I mean, God works in many mysterious ways, 12:14 of how He intertwined our lives together. 12:18 You know, because Donald 12:21 and I, we became members of the male choirs, 12:25 we were encouraging to each other. 12:26 We had opportunity to get to know each other. 12:29 And seeing you thriving, 12:32 I've seen you evolve to the class, 12:35 you were represent a classy person. 12:39 Well, thanks. And we were at your wedding. 12:41 We were so blessed to be at your wedding. 12:44 Outdoor wedding, it was freezing cold. 12:46 We were determined. Yeah, but it was beautiful. 12:51 Reception without doors it was just beautiful. 12:54 Let's talk about, you know, the extended family. 12:57 You have nieces and nephews you have helped. 12:59 How did Donald accepted your family 13:02 and you helping your nieces and nephews during this time? 13:06 It was kind of challenging in the beginning 13:08 because Donald wasn't used to the family kind of lifestyle 13:14 and it took some getting used to it. 13:15 I am extremely involved in my children's lives, very much so. 13:20 And we used to clash about it 13:23 but somehow the Holy Spirit worked with Donald's heart 13:26 and now he's very accepting of the children 13:30 and he's very welcoming of them. 13:32 He never showed them that part but he did show it to me. 13:36 And I knew he struggled with that. 13:38 And I had to make some changes also, 13:41 because a lot of my time was spent with my family. 13:45 Because, you know, being seasoned 13:49 and getting married, you know, you're used 13:51 to doing everything the way you do it. 13:54 You know, and so it took some adjusting 13:56 and I can tell you for about, 13:58 may be-- I would say he recently, 14:02 within the last year, 14:05 I was about get out of this marriage. 14:07 I said Lord, I can't do this. I told the pastor. 14:09 Was it because of the children, what? 14:10 It was just because we just didn't seem to connect. 14:14 It just wasn't working. 14:16 Different lifestyles, my different--it was me. 14:19 I'll have to say it was me, it wasn't Donald it was me. 14:22 I said, you've got to go. 14:23 He said "I'm not going anywhere." 14:25 He told you that? He told me that. 14:27 I'm not leaving and then he did not leave. 14:29 Yeah. As you can see. 14:31 Yeah, praise the Lord. 14:32 And, you know, yes, absolutely and I had to understand 14:35 and begin to appreciate Donald 14:37 for who he is, the person that he is. 14:40 And I have seen the Lord work in his, this man's life. 14:43 And I have seen things change. 14:45 I've seen attitudes change, the arguing, 14:48 the going back and forth. 14:49 It was like we were always in competition. 14:52 It's not like that anymore, we tend to blend. 14:56 Why do you think couples feel that they need to compete? 15:00 Well, I will give my version of that. 15:03 I believe that a man always sticks up 15:06 for being a man, it was just number one. 15:11 Man wants to be a leader, 15:13 he wants to be the head of the household, 15:15 he wants to be an image of his father, 15:18 he wants to do the things and make the decisions 15:21 and say that that's what's gonna happen. 15:24 But then when you run into someone 15:25 that is equally intelligent or more intelligent 15:31 and you find that they can make decisions well, 15:35 and do a good job of it, that causes a little friction. 15:38 Because of that you're taking out your first place 15:41 that you usually be sitting in, into second place 15:44 or third place or to say that. 15:46 And that's why a lot of times we'd clash. 15:49 You know, at a time we were clashing for that. 15:51 Let me ask you a question in regards to that. 15:55 You came from that type back ground 15:57 where your dad was real influential in the family. 16:01 Yes, he was. 16:02 But you dropped out of it, 16:04 you know, and you dealt with the pain 16:06 and agony of being separated from your family. 16:09 Was it also something that wanted to motivate you, 16:13 once you got into this marriage you wanted to take one, 16:16 the role of your father? 16:19 Exactly, you hit it on the nail. 16:21 That's exactly what it was. 16:22 My father was such a stern individual 16:26 and head of the household and his word was the last word. 16:30 And of course I had a brother too, 16:33 and we both took that kind of, 16:35 you know, role that's how we wanted to be. 16:37 We want to emulate my father. 16:40 But see I wasn't his mother. And that was the problem, see. 16:43 Oh. I'm totally different from her. 16:46 She would speak up in those places 16:47 where my mother wouldn't say anything. 16:49 By the way she was very, very-- 16:51 She was very humble and a nice person. 16:53 Yeah, subservient to him, 16:55 but that's really the real reason why. 16:58 That's really the real reason why. 16:59 My parents were-- 17:00 I wasn't anything like his mother. 17:04 My mother wouldn't-- he said to me one day, 17:07 "If someone rings the door bell, who answers?" 17:11 I looked, I was perplexed I said, 17:14 "Anybody who gets to it first." 17:16 He said, "Not in my house. 17:17 My mother never answered me to do 17:20 and my father always answered the door." 17:22 I was like, really? 17:24 And that was the fact 17:26 because he was really the protector, 17:28 you know, in that instance he was saying that 17:30 whatever is out there, who's ringing the bell, 17:33 let m deal with it not you. 17:35 You know in that instance, that's what he was. 17:38 Did you come from a Christian background? 17:40 Yes, I did. 17:41 Okay, so your father was Christian, 17:42 your mother was a Christian. 17:43 Yes, he was a Baptist and my mother was a Baptist. 17:45 Okay, and so it was a heavy impact on your life. 17:50 So how high have you compromised, 17:52 because I've heard you and Bettye indicate you guys 17:55 have come together now, that is much better. 17:58 So what things were done to make it better? 18:00 Well, let me tell you the most important thing 18:02 that was done, is me praying 18:06 and asking the Lord to bless this marriage. 18:10 Even though we have difficulties, Lord, 18:13 that we have similarities 18:15 and we have difficulties and differences, Lord, show me. 18:20 Work through me, Lord. 18:22 Let me be humble to where I'm not humble. 18:25 Let me show my wife what I can do better than 18:28 what I have done before. 18:30 And those prayers were answered to a large extent. 18:33 Now also being married, you have blended family, 18:38 okay let's talk about the blended family. 18:41 How many children you have, Donald? 18:43 I have three girls, set of twins and an older-- 18:47 Four. Four I'm sorry. 18:48 Four children. Four children. 18:49 Okay. I have an older girl. 18:52 And then I have two twins and I have younger daughter. 18:56 And one child is hearing impaired. 18:58 Yes, the granddaughter. 19:00 The granddaughter is hearing impaired. 19:02 I've met few occasions at the concerts. 19:04 You know, now Bettye, do you have any children? 19:07 No children? Never married before? 19:10 Yes, actually I was married before. 19:11 You were married before? I was married before. 19:12 So this is your second marriage? 19:13 Yes, it is. 19:15 And Donald, this is your second marriage? 19:16 No, this is my third. This is your third marriage? 19:19 And people tend to stay away, 19:20 you know, say the antennas go up, 19:22 the signals go up, the flags go up, 19:24 third marriage, you know, why should I, 19:27 but you still married. 19:29 I was not looking for a husband. 19:32 You were not looking for husband? 19:33 I honestly was not looking for husband. 19:35 You weren't looking for husband? 19:36 No, I was not. 19:38 I was perfectly satisfied being single, 19:41 having my family around me 19:43 because I was involved with the children. 19:45 I didn't really had time for all of that 19:48 but I didn't mind sharing my faith with someone. 19:51 But, you know, after you grow, you're around somebody 19:54 so long you grow to appreciate that person 19:56 and care about that person and I grew to love Donald, 19:59 you know especially after he took the time 20:03 to get himself together. 20:05 And then when I contacted him, 20:08 he still talked about us being together. 20:11 And I have to say that I know my husband loves me. 20:17 I know this because what I put him through, 20:20 those few months when I was giving up 20:23 on the marriage he was praying for the marriage 20:25 I was praying to get out of the marriage. 20:27 So I was not pleasant at all. I was not pleasant. 20:30 And when the Holy Spirit-- I looked, 20:32 I took one good look at my husband one day 20:35 and I saw how I was hurting him. 20:37 And how he was just declining 20:41 and the Holy Spirit spoke to my heart 20:43 and said "That is not why I put the two of you together. 20:47 This is not it." 20:49 And I went to him in tears 20:51 and I asked to him to forgive me for the way 20:53 that I have treated him, and he did. 20:56 And there have been no repercussions, nothing, 20:58 he hasn't said to me one time 21:00 well, I remember when you did this. 21:02 He never brought up? Never, ever brought it up. 21:04 And let me say this to my audience. 21:07 That it's so important about healing. 21:09 Now if you're going to forgive your spouse, 21:11 a child, a neighbor, then you have 21:14 to leave it there. 21:16 You can't bring that up again and bring it up again 21:19 because when you're saying to me not only if you have 21:21 not forgiven you haven't forgotten. 21:23 We ought to throw things the Bible saying to us, 21:25 "sea of forgetfulness." 21:27 And how many times Arthur, does God forgive us? 21:29 Seven times seventy. 21:30 Seventy, seventy, over and over again 21:33 and if we're unable to forgive each other, 21:36 God will not forgive us. 21:38 So that's beautiful because people tend, 21:40 and we see it in our counseling practice 21:42 where you keep bring this, you keep throwing 21:45 that in my face, how can a person 21:47 get passed it, they can't. 21:49 He never spoke about it. 21:50 So now what type of things do you do for yourself? 21:55 I mean, not individually, I mean, as a couple. 21:57 I mean, because to me, that helps the relationship 22:01 get stronger and stronger. 22:02 So what're some of the things that you do together? 22:05 We pray to together. 22:08 I like going for walks. Okay. 22:10 Maybe he'll come with me sometimes. 22:11 That's nice. 22:12 Getting little cold now so, I don't know if we'll be 22:14 walking too much more. 22:15 All right. 22:17 I'd like to go to the shopping center. 22:20 Sometimes I can get him to go, sometimes I can't. 22:22 I have to go to Home Depot with him, 22:25 when he goes to Home Depot. 22:26 I love Home Depot. 22:28 It's all right, if I'm not looking at that, 22:30 then I'm looking at tools. 22:31 And we do that, you know, and one thing I have to say 22:36 about him, we share the household responsibilities. 22:40 But every time I wash our clothing, 22:44 he always thanks me for washing his clothes. 22:46 Okay, I got to stop you right there. 22:48 Oh, my goodness, thank you very much 22:50 I needed to hear that. 22:51 Did you hear that? I had. 22:54 How powerful that was? That was powerful. 22:55 Did you hear this is-- 22:57 I want to say to my viewers, many times I've said Arthur, 23:01 I'll do some work, he says "why should I say please 23:03 or thanks, you're my wife." 23:05 It's just courtesy. 23:07 It is so good to hear that another man 23:09 can say thank you when his wife does-- 23:11 Kim. Yes, dear. 23:12 Did I not say thank you this morning? 23:15 And you know, what and yesterday-- 23:17 I mean, now you can't say 23:19 that this is a ongoing practice for me. 23:21 It is not, but I reiterated to him, 23:24 how it makes feel when he does says thank you. 23:26 He thanks me for the meals that I cook. 23:28 Anything when he cooks? He thanks when I cook. 23:30 I don't thank when he cooks a lot. 23:31 Well, Arthur does thank me for cooking. 23:33 But he thanks me for cooking. 23:34 I think because it's so rare, I mean, it's like-- 23:37 And I think that's probably why. 23:39 Because the Lord put in my heart, 23:41 the things that you should do are things that make her happy. 23:45 That's beautiful. 23:46 That's' what the Lord put that in my heart 23:47 so that was there. 23:48 See even though we're the experts here 23:50 at "Making It Work," 23:52 I think it's so important to know 23:54 that we can still grow as a couple. 23:56 So I'm going to continue to say thank you. 23:59 And honey, I appreciated that-- 24:01 Are you gonna wash my clothes for me? 24:02 No, I gave up washing Arthur's clothes 24:06 many, many years ago, 11 years ago. 24:07 When I gave birth to his beautiful baby girl 24:10 and I just something said you know, I can't do that. 24:13 Do you know how significant that is? 24:15 Oh, that's a whole another show, 24:16 so we'll bring that back, all right. 24:18 Again Donald, what are some of the things you like 24:20 to do, you know, your hobby. 24:21 Well, I'm a hands on person. You're hands on person. 24:24 I go and fix this, you know, what I was doing at that 24:27 place when I was there? 24:28 Yes. You're very, very-- I'm a drywaller. 24:30 I'm fixer, I'm a fixer. 24:31 I just fix some stuff the other day. 24:34 I was going to buy a new stove he said 24:36 "I'll get the parts-- 24:37 And I'll fix it and I fixed it. And it's repaired. 24:39 Oh, so you don't need buy a new stove? 24:40 No. That's great. Okay. 24:43 He can fix almost anything, in the house. 24:44 Well, Donald, there's a part out of my stove 24:48 but want a new stove. 24:51 That's a blessing. Now that's a real blessing. 24:53 Good, it really is. 24:54 I pray on a daily basis, and I think 24:57 that's the key right there. 24:59 The prayer. 25:00 My prayer is the daily thing, is always praying. 25:05 Well, listen, we're going to come right back 25:07 with "Making It Work" and more from the Bryant's. 25:21 Welcome back to the "Making It Work." 25:23 I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin. 25:24 And I'm Arthur Nowlin. 25:25 And today our guests Donald and Bettye Bryant, 25:28 have been married three and half years. 25:30 Three and half exciting years. Yes. 25:34 You know, gone through some trials and tribulations. 25:36 I don't know too many marriages that have not gone through 25:39 any trials and tribulations. 25:40 But the key is like Donald said, 25:42 prayer-- and he said "I'm not going anywhere." 25:46 He was determined through the prayers of the righteous 25:48 are very much. 25:49 You know that is so powerful for you 25:52 to say that because a lot of times 25:55 when we get people that coming to our office-- 25:58 They are on the verge of saying, 26:00 I can't take it anymore. 26:02 Similar to you Bettye, you know, 26:03 and what really stands out is the fact that you made 26:08 a decision that this your home and you wanted to be a man 26:13 and a wife-- your relationship to thrive 26:17 because of husband and wife. 26:20 So it's really important that you've come 26:22 to that decision and that you guys 26:24 are at a point where you want to increase your territory. 26:29 Absolutely. 26:30 Continue to thrive in your relationship. 26:32 Absolutely. Exactly 26:33 So now with everything that's going on 26:36 in your relationship, where do you go from here, 26:40 your marriage? 26:41 Well, we're going to continue 26:43 doing the same and we're going to-- 26:45 I'm investing 26:46 in some other type of business right now, 26:49 to get some more different income. 26:51 And I think Bettye was, what you said you was gonna do? 26:55 Well, I'm looking into grant writing. 26:56 All right. 26:58 I wanted to learn how to write grants. 26:59 You want to write grants? 27:00 And I want help those people who are who want to start 27:02 a business and they don't have the funds to do it. 27:06 You know, and to get grants, 27:08 government grants to help people 27:10 who would like to have a-- you know, 27:12 to have a better life for themselves 27:14 and their children. 27:15 I saw that when we were passing 27:16 by some of our churches in the community 27:18 and in our church, 27:19 we're also giving out boxes of food, 27:21 that grants were the lot of those opportunities. 27:24 Absolutely. 27:25 Well, listen there's so much more-- 27:26 will you come back be with us again? 27:28 Certainly. Sure. 27:29 Well, we truly appreciate you. Let me keep you updated. 27:31 I just want to say that in a relationship, 27:34 there's going to be crossroads, 27:35 going to be different paths but it's up to you to decide 27:38 what you want in your relationship 27:41 and you can make it work. 27:43 I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin. 27:44 I'm Arthur Nowlin. God bless. |
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