Made for Health

You’Ve Got Guts Part Two

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00:01 What makes for a flourishing garden?
00:03 It's underground.
00:04 Rich, fertile, living soil is what helps plants ward off
00:08 pests and diseases, and results in the greatest yield.
00:12 When we talk about living soil, part of what we're referring to
00:15 is the diverse microbial population
00:17 that lives in the soil.
00:19 Yeah, microbes such as fungi and bacteria.
00:22 Like the soil in the garden,
00:23 your gut contains bacteria and fungi.
00:26 We call it the gut microbiota, or microbiome.
00:29 And like soil, it's dynamic, vulnerable to how we treat it.
00:33 It changes outcomes and plays a phenomenal role
00:36 in causing you to flourish.
00:38 Which is exactly what you were made for.
00:58 It's time, not only for another great program,
01:02 but it's time to gut it.
01:04 Meaning, let's do this thing of taking care of our gut.
01:08 The first step is, don't feed it junk food.
01:12 Because remember, anything you put into your mouth
01:16 that goes into your stomach eventually will go and be
01:19 communicating directly with the microbiome.
01:22 That's why one of the foods or products that I'm most
01:27 against and strongly advise my patients against using
01:32 is the artificial sweeteners.
01:33 Because they devastate the microbiome.
01:38 That's interesting that Dr. Youngberg brought up
01:41 sugar substitutes.
01:42 Now we tend to look at sugar substitutes as having
01:45 no affect upon us because they don't contain calories or carbs.
01:49 The majority of it literally goes straight through our
01:52 digestive system unabsorbed.
01:54 But on its way through, non-nutritive sweeteners
01:58 cause harm and destruction to our gut microbiome.
02:01 People choose sugar substitutes because they
02:04 think they're better for them.
02:05 And yet, they've been found to negatively affect us,
02:08 raise blood sugar levels, trigger insulin resistance,
02:12 and can cause weight gain, especially around the abdomen,
02:15 all without any carbs or calories.
02:18 They are not the health food we thought they were.
02:20 What else affects the gut microbiomes?
02:23 The average American lifestyle is horrible.
02:26 That's why we call it the SAD diet.
02:28 The standard American diet.
02:29 It does not support good microbiome. No.
02:32 So it begins with not putting unhealthy substances
02:37 into our body.
02:39 Making sure that the water that we're drinking is
02:41 clean and pure, and that it's properly filtered
02:45 so there's no toxins in the water that we drink.
02:49 Making sure that in our diet that we're not consuming
02:55 liquids, most liquids that people consume during the day
02:59 are unhealthy, okay.
03:01 And if somebody has chronic diseases or has excess weight,
03:08 they shouldn't even be drinking fruit juices.
03:10 I'm not against fruit juices for everybody,
03:13 but if you know that you have excess weight,
03:17 or that you have problems with blood sugars,
03:19 or problems with insulin resistance,
03:23 you know, I say, don't drink your fruit.
03:24 I'm all about eating fruit, but say don't drink it.
03:27 Because if you drink your fruit, you're eliminating
03:30 one of the most important parts of fruit,
03:32 which is the fiber most of the time.
03:35 So there are a lot of things that we can do,
03:37 including make sure you're just not sleeping inadequately.
03:42 It's bad for the microbiome.
03:44 When we exercise and when we sweat, we remove toxins.
03:48 That's something that is beneficial
03:50 to the microbiome as well.
03:52 I also am very careful to analyze whether somebody is
03:56 sensitive to toxins through genetic testing
03:59 and through urine toxin testing.
04:01 Because what do toxins do?
04:03 They destroy the healthy bacteria in the gut.
04:07 That's why we don't want to inadvertently just take
04:11 antibiotics just to take them
04:13 or especially take them inappropriately
04:16 because they destroy the microbiome.
04:18 And so we need to constantly be thinking about ways
04:22 to restore and reseed and optimize the function
04:27 of the microbiome, of the healthy bacteria.
04:30 That might involve using some probiotics from time to time.
04:35 But the most important thing is, you've got to
04:37 feed it the right food.
04:39 The healthy bacteria, the microbiome,
04:42 basically live off of prebiotics.
04:48 These are fiber type foods or fibers found in foods
04:53 that various vegetables, etc, that actually are consumed
05:00 by the bacteria.
05:02 And the bacteria can use these fibers
05:05 to create other nutrients that we didn't even eat
05:08 that actually have a totally different chemical structure
05:12 because they have enzymes in them that we don't
05:15 that can actually convert all these healthy products
05:18 for our body to use and help fight disease,
05:21 and turn good genes on and bad genes off,
05:24 and do all the amazing things that our body was designed
05:28 to be able to do.
05:29 And be very intentional about rebuilding your microbiome
05:32 after you have a dose of antibiotics
05:35 because you know that has killed off a lot of your good bacteria.
05:39 Some research has revealed that after antibiotic treatment
05:42 most groups of bacteria recovered in a population group.
05:46 But some groups of bacteria didn't recover
05:49 even six months later.
05:51 And the level of restoration varied between the individuals.
05:55 I wish I could say that eating fermented foods and taking
05:58 probiotics would always cause a return to normal,
06:01 but they may not.
06:03 These strategies can be helpful, but depending on different
06:06 factors the microbiota may not always fully recover.
06:11 Scientists have found that modern man's gut microbes
06:13 don't look anything like our predecessors.
06:16 They found exceptionally well preserved ancient poo samples
06:20 from dry caves that date as early as the first century,
06:24 and they found that almost 40% of the microbial species
06:28 in the ancient stool had never been seen before.
06:31 In other words, whole families of bacteria gone.
06:36 And this is thought to be due to our modern world of
06:38 environmental chemical exposure, medications, eating overly
06:43 processed foods, and not eating enough plant varieties.
06:46 So we limit the diversity in our gut as a result.
06:50 And as a result of that, we have fewer types of organisms
06:53 to pass on to the next generation.
06:55 And on it goes.
06:57 Scientists are suggesting that this is one of the reasons
07:00 why we're seeing this rapid rise in chronic disease and obesity.
07:06 A healthy gut microbiome protects us against
07:10 the development of chronic diseases.
07:13 Now where there's imbalance,
07:16 chronic diseases will be the result.
07:19 It's about the diversity or the abundance of how many
07:25 kinds of bacteria live in your gut.
07:27 You want to have as many beneficial
07:30 guys in your gut as possible so that when a disaster comes,
07:34 like, for example, you need to take antibiotics.
07:37 They will destroy some of the bad guys,
07:41 but also some of the good guys.
07:42 So you want to have like a good buffer of all the good guys
07:47 that are in your gut so that the disaster is not exaggerated.
07:53 So it's about diversity of the gut microbiome
07:56 and it's also about specific bacteria.
07:59 An example would be one cute bacteria that's called
08:03 Faecalibacterium Prausnitzii, which is a complicated name.
08:08 But this bacterium tends to be low in people with diabetes.
08:12 It's a bacterium that feeds on fiber
08:15 and produces the short chain fatty acids
08:18 that improve your insulin sensitivity,
08:21 decreases inflammation, and also helps our heart work better,
08:28 helps our brain work better.
08:30 So you want to increase this bacterium in your gut.
08:34 Now, people with diabetes have a lower count of
08:37 Faecalibacterium Prausnitzii, which is also associated
08:41 with increased insulin resistance.
08:44 So that's the jammed door lock where insulin cannot
08:48 open the door for glucose to come in.
08:51 And that's why there is higher blood sugar.
08:55 And also its associated with inflammation.
08:59 Now we put people on a low fat vegan diet for 16 weeks
09:04 and we measure their gut microbiome.
09:07 And after 16 weeks the abundance of Faecalibacterium Prausnitzii
09:12 increased, which was also associated with weight loss,
09:18 it was associated with fat loss, and the loss of visceral fat.
09:22 That's the most metabolically dangerous fat.
09:25 So when the visceral fat was decreased,
09:28 that's a significant improvement in health.
09:31 How do we get diversity in our gut microbiome
09:34 and all the bugs that we have in there?
09:36 And how do we make sure that they're not out of balance,
09:38 that the damaging ones aren't predominant
09:42 and that the healthy ones are really doing their job?
09:46 And so when I think about the gut, those are things
09:48 that I think about first and foremost.
09:50 The microbiome only survives if it's being fed properly,
09:54 if it's getting the proper nutrition.
09:56 If you have an inflammatory storm going on in the gut,
10:02 a lot of the microbiome is going to start fading out.
10:06 What starts coming in more are the yeasts.
10:10 So again, 30 years ago if you believed in systemic candidiasis
10:16 you were a quack.
10:18 Now everybody knows there is candidiasis in the gut.
10:21 And we see it elsewhere.
10:22 Yeah, I mean, I think we used to think there were
10:25 just a few that were the good ones.
10:27 And I think as more and more research has come out
10:29 we're just starting to understand, well, we don't
10:31 know exactly all the good ones, but we know that diversity
10:34 is the biggest marker of health.
10:37 And as a person loses health, they lose diversity.
10:40 And so there's this really direct connection between
10:42 diversity and health, which is really kind of cool
10:45 to think about.
10:46 And then some of the studies that say, well, you know,
10:49 what you eat directly impacts what microbiome grows
10:54 and what thrives versus what doesn't.
10:56 And as you switch a person's nutrition,
10:58 how quickly the microbiome can shift.
11:01 Within just hours to days you can start to see
11:04 this adaptation of the gut bugs to grow,
11:08 you know, according to what you feed it.
11:10 And again, this, I think it's amazing that God
11:12 created us so flexible and so adaptable, so resilient,
11:16 right, to try to adapt to what environment we are
11:20 creating in our bodies.
11:22 But in some ways, you know, the fact that we get to
11:25 adjust and adapt so quickly can be difficult for us
11:29 when we're giving ourselves the wrong input.
11:32 The changes in gut microbiome happen actually fairly quickly.
11:37 For example, when people start consuming a high fat diet,
11:43 the bad guys in the gut start multiplying fairly quickly.
11:47 Within a few days they start taking over.
11:51 Now, many people think, if that happens, what helps me
11:54 is probiotics.
11:56 "I will just get some yogurt or Bifidobacterium
12:01 in a drink, or so."
12:03 Well, that may help only short term.
12:07 But you need to keep in mind, if you're consuming
12:11 the pro bacteria from fermented foods, let's say,
12:17 and you still keep eating the high fat diet,
12:21 that's like a fuel for all the bad guys in your gut.
12:25 So the probiotics will not be as helpful.
12:31 In contrast to eating prebiotics, which is the food
12:36 for the right kind of bacteria in your gut.
12:38 Now what is the prebiotic, what is it in?
12:42 It's in all plant foods, but in some foods more than in others.
12:47 So the highest concentrations of prebiotics in plant foods are
12:52 in whole grains.
12:54 So you may want to stock up on brown rice
12:57 and millet and buckwheat.
12:59 And it's also in onions and garlic.
13:02 And in other vegetables and fruits as well.
13:05 Unity and diversity is a hallmark of health,
13:09 especially in the gut.
13:11 How can we nurture healthy diversity inside of us?
13:14 Believe it or not, it's not just about food.
13:17 People with larger social networks tend to have a more
13:20 diverse microbiome.
13:22 Meaning they have more different kinds of beneficial microbes.
13:25 Unity and diversity with each other is good,
13:29 even for the gut.
13:30 In fact, the majority of individuals who have a
13:32 significant other have higher microbial diversity
13:36 than the average single individual.
13:38 And if you have children, it's even better.
13:41 Another reason why it's not good for man to be alone.
13:45 We know that people, for example, in rural Africa
13:49 have a larger diversity of their gut microbiome
13:53 compared with people living in western countries.
13:56 Now, why is that?
13:58 One factor is a predominately plant-based diet
14:02 in rural Africa.
14:04 And another factor is also living
14:07 in more contact with soil.
14:10 With the level of sanitation in the western countries
14:14 in contrast to just getting all your fruits and vegetables
14:18 from the garden and maybe just washing them in water,
14:21 not necessarily in soap, that helps increase the
14:25 diversity of the gut microbiome.
14:27 Get your hands dirty.
14:30 That's one of the most important factors for your
14:32 gut microbiome as well.
14:35 I love that Dr. Kahleova directed us
14:38 to getting our hands dirty.
14:39 There's a time to be clean and a time to get dirty.
14:43 Gardener's gut microbiomes are more diverse
14:45 than those of non-gardeners.
14:48 Eating a diversity of whole plant-based foods
14:50 from the garden also makes a huge difference
14:53 because these kinds of foods have the most beneficial
14:56 impact on the diversity of the good guys in the gut.
15:00 In fact, you may have heard eating at least 30 different
15:03 plant-based foods each week will result in more varied
15:07 diverse gut bacteria,
15:09 and ultimately a healthier gut microbiome.
15:12 There are so many different kinds of fruits and vegetables,
15:15 beans, greens, grains, nuts, and seeds.
15:19 Time to get out of our rut.
15:20 Make it fun, get adventurous for your gut's sake.
15:24 Every microbe in the gut likes certain things.
15:31 So that's why it's good to eat a variety because
15:33 they all feed on different things.
15:37 And as long as it's whole food and plant-based,
15:40 you are growing the ones that need to grow
15:43 and suppressing the ones that need to be suppressed.
15:47 Yeah, so prebiotics, well, where are prebiotics?
15:49 Prebiotics are in all the fiber in the plant foods that we eat.
15:53 Everything that God created for us is what feeds the
15:57 healthy gut microbiome and helps the healthy gut grow.
16:02 Like, God created that. That's so amazing.
16:06 And what are those prebiotics?
16:08 Again, fiber, fiber, fiber.
16:12 And plants, plants, plants.
16:13 Because you're not forcing the issue by, "No, here,
16:17 you bacteria are going to be created by these pills
16:19 that I'm going to give you."
16:20 You're going to give it the fuel that by itself
16:23 creates the natural microbiome that starts from your mouth
16:27 all the way down to the lower gut.
16:30 In fact, the majority of it is in the gut,
16:32 in the large intestine.
16:34 And 60% of our poop is microbiome that goes away
16:39 and then we recreate it.
16:40 So every meal recreates the microbiome,
16:43 recreates the environment that is a factory.
16:46 It's a pharmacy.
16:48 It's a pharmacy that creates so many chemicals in your body.
16:52 And if you're giving it the wrong food,
16:53 wrong environment, wrong chemicals,
16:55 you're destroying the good factory
16:57 and you're bringing an artificial factory
17:00 that creates tension, anxiety, stress, brain damage.
17:03 The microbiome is important.
17:05 You don't have to rely on gimmicks.
17:07 Eat fiber, eat plants.
17:10 One of my favorite people is Dr. Denis Burkitt
17:13 who passed away as an elderly man in 1993.
17:18 But he was an amazing surgeon.
17:22 A medical missionary to Africa.
17:24 And he was one of the first physicians to discover
17:28 how to address certain pediatric cancers.
17:34 Burkitt lymphoma was named after Dr. Denis Burkitt.
17:38 And I remember when I was just early in my faculty
17:45 assignment at Loma Linda University School of
17:47 Public Health in the early 90's.
17:50 Dr. Denis Burkitt came to Loma Linda and gave a talk.
17:54 It was such an amazing talk.
17:56 Just such an amazing Christian scientist, medical professional.
18:02 And he very wittingly talked about the impact
18:09 of fiber on health.
18:10 He said that everywhere he went, he said that when
18:14 he noticed that the patients that he had
18:18 had large bowel movements, okay, the hospitals in those areas
18:22 were very small because you didn't need many hospitals.
18:25 He said, but when he went to other places of Africa
18:29 where the patient's bowel movements were very small,
18:32 in other words, they had a very low fiber diet,
18:35 they lived more in the cities, then they needed
18:38 large hospitals because there were so many people that
18:41 needed medical care for all types of chronic diseases
18:44 requiring his surgical expertise.
18:47 And so he became one of the biggest advocates
18:51 of optimal, what we call plant strong diet,
18:54 promoting lots of whole plant-based foods.
19:00 And so he was the fiber doctor.
19:04 He was the fiber doctor, because now we understand that
19:06 fiber actually gets converted by bacteria in the colon
19:13 into short chain fatty acids.
19:15 So the body is amazing.
19:17 It can enzymatically, through something that's not even
19:21 really part of your body, it's part of the healthy bacteria
19:24 that reside in our body, in our digestive tract,
19:28 that can actually convert a fiber, non-nutritive substance,
19:32 into a nutrient.
19:34 They can convert fiber into a fatty acid
19:39 called butyrate that actually turns off the cancer genes
19:44 in the colon, dramatically limiting the risk of
19:48 getting cancer, and it actually acts as an anti-inflammatory
19:53 for the whole body.
19:54 So it wasn't too long ago that I was even being taught
19:59 that, you know, fiber is not that important.
20:00 There's really no nutritional value.
20:02 Therefore, white bread is no different
20:04 than whole wheat bread.
20:06 Of course, I totally rejected that concept
20:09 because of people, the real giants like Dr. Denis Burkitt
20:13 who was explaining that fiber is essential.
20:16 But now we know that it actually turns into a nutrient
20:21 that's so, so powerful.
20:23 But you know, the sad reality is that over 90% of Americans
20:28 are fiber deficient.
20:30 Yeah, the average American consumes only 1/4 to 1/3 of
20:35 the fiber that we need.
20:36 We're starving the good guys in our gut, which makes us
20:40 more prone to a struggling imbalanced immune system,
20:44 not producing the beneficial byproducts that Dr. Youngberg
20:47 just mentioned, and more likely to experience pain
20:50 and inflammation.
20:53 Well, we focus on our lifestyle pain management program,
20:57 you know, by helping them to develop good nutrition,
21:01 good exercise patterns.
21:03 Making sure they're getting plenty of vitamin D,
21:06 that they're having healthy relationships.
21:08 All those things are connected.
21:11 So you're saying that more than just nutrition
21:14 affects the microbiome?
21:15 Absolutely.
21:16 You know, the gut and the brain are very closely connected.
21:22 And when a person is not in a good place mentally
21:25 or emotionally, that really affects the gut.
21:28 I mean, a lot of people when they become nervous
21:31 or stressed out, where do they feel it?
21:33 They feel it in their gut.
21:35 Another non-food gut influencer is exercise, yes.
21:41 I want you guys to get excited about this topic.
21:43 Scientists at the University of Illinois recruited
21:46 32 men and women who did not exercise.
21:49 Half were obese, and the rest were normal weight.
21:52 They tested the composition of their gut microbiome
21:55 at the beginning of the study.
21:57 And then these 32 men and women began supervised workouts
22:00 which increased over time.
22:02 They started at 30 minutes of easy walking or cycling
22:06 and they built up to about an hour of vigorous jogging
22:09 or cycling three times a week
22:11 with no change to their normal diets.
22:14 After six weeks of exercising, their gut microbiome was tested.
22:19 And they were told to stop exercising.
22:21 So they went back to being sedentary.
22:23 After no exercise, their microbiome was tested again.
22:27 And what they found was that the microbiome
22:30 responded to whether or not they were exercising.
22:34 Amazing beneficial changes occurred in response
22:39 to exercising.
22:40 But when they stopped exercising, the gut community
22:44 reverted back to what it was like
22:46 before they started exercising.
22:48 I mean, that is just incredible.
22:51 I told you this was going to be an exciting topic.
22:54 Now what's the saying?
22:55 Take care of your gut and your gut will take care of you.
23:01 This trillion amount of bacteria we have, they are fighters.
23:07 When my patients start to change their diet,
23:10 and they don't receive this food they're used to,
23:13 they fight you.
23:14 You're going to feel weak, you're going to feel toxic,
23:17 you're going to feel nauseous.
23:18 You feel like you know, gassy.
23:22 And my patients are like, "This food is not good.
23:25 These plants and fruits and vegetables you're telling
23:26 me to eat, they're no good.
23:28 I'm feeling so sick."
23:29 And I say, "Wait a second. Give your body time.
23:32 These bacteria have to die.
23:34 We need to starve these bacteria.
23:36 These bacteria are fighting it.
23:39 Once we kill these bacteria, and the new bacteria start forming,
23:43 then you're going to start feeling the good results."
23:46 I call it a civil war, an internal civil war.
23:49 Yeah, and you know, when patients are on twenty
23:52 medications, and I say, "Okay, I'm going to give you,
23:57 give me four weeks.
23:59 Give me four weeks. It's all I need.
24:02 Let's get rid of these things and let's see what happens
24:05 with your blood pressure.
24:06 Let's see what happens with your sugar.
24:07 Let's see what happens with your reflux."
24:09 Okay, they are on Omeprazole.
24:10 I have patients that have high blood pressure
24:14 that are on medication that causes swelling,
24:16 so they have a diuretic for the swelling.
24:19 And they have medications that causes reflux,
24:22 so they are on medications for reflux.
24:23 So all this cascade of disease and side effects.
24:27 So some patients are willing.
24:30 And I say, "Just give me four weeks.
24:32 Let's try and see.
24:34 You can go back to your previous diet."
24:36 So I will tell your audience the same thing.
24:39 Just try two, three, four weeks.
24:41 It takes 21 days, they say to change your taste buds.
24:45 So all that craving, sugar craving, salt craving,
24:48 or grilling craving, whatever that is, it can get better.
24:52 You know, you will, as you have your berries in the morning,
24:57 you will have less and less crave a doughnut,
24:59 because you will find the berries are not just good for you,
25:04 but they keep you awake, and then you don't have this
25:07 sugar crash, you know, in four hours.
25:09 So yeah, it's just powerful.
25:12 But the spectrum of change, keep that in mind.
25:17 I think it gives hope to people.
25:21 Yes, it is definitely true that our gut microbiome
25:25 affects the absorption rates and absorption capacity
25:30 of all the wonderful micronutrients and the
25:32 polyphenols that we introduce in our body.
25:35 But the good news is, so that everybody doesn't kind of
25:38 get scared about this, the concept of rehabilitation
25:42 applies to our gut too.
25:43 The gut is very forgiving.
25:45 And if people have had dietary patterns that have not really
25:49 supported a healthy gut microbiota,
25:52 they can change that.
25:54 And over time, you can reintroduce a new population
25:58 of gut microbiome or gut bacteria that can,
26:02 you know, produce the necessary chemicals that
26:05 are important for our health
26:06 and really, really change the way our body absorbs nutrients.
26:11 I think that's great news.
26:13 Greens, beans.
26:17 - Brown rice. - Not subsidized.
26:19 - Brown rice. - Brown rice.
26:20 - What else? You're the chef. - Sweet potatoes.
26:22 Sweet potatoes, yes.
26:24 And mix those up twelve different ways.
26:26 It's incredible. That's medicine.
26:28 That's literally medicine.
26:30 There are a variety of ways to approach health and disease.
26:35 And there are different tool bags that practitioners
26:37 bring to the table, depending on their education.
26:41 What we've been looking at is the lifestyle tool bag.
26:44 Lifestyle, meaning, what we put into our body,
26:47 what we do with our body.
26:49 These are ways of programming how our body functions.
26:53 And as we've learned, even programming the gut microbiome.
26:58 I appreciate how Dr. Sherzai emphasized greens, beans,
27:02 sweet potatoes, food, as having the capacity
27:05 to be like medicine to our bodies.
27:08 Food is expensive these days. I totally agree.
27:12 Unless you're growing your own.
27:14 But eating cheap food is expensive too.
27:16 Expensive in the long run.
27:18 Expensive in the toll it's taking on your body.
27:23 Thank you for joining me today
27:24 on one of my absolutely favorite topics.
27:28 I hope you're taking something valuable away
27:31 that you will start incorporating into your life
27:34 and have a healthier gut.
27:36 It's what we were made for.


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