Magnify the Lord with me 00:00:01.36\00:00:04.80 Magnify the Lord 00:00:04.83\00:00:08.60 Jesus alone is worthy 00:00:08.64\00:00:11.51 Magnify Him 00:00:11.54\00:00:17.01 Hello and welcome to Magnify Him. 00:00:17.05\00:00:19.75 My name is Duawne Starling. And my name is Yvonne Lewis. 00:00:19.78\00:00:23.08 Thank you so much for tuning in. 00:00:23.12\00:00:25.15 Prepare your heart to meet some 00:00:25.19\00:00:27.36 ministers of music in our program today. 00:00:27.39\00:00:30.13 I know that you will be greatly encouraged 00:00:30.16\00:00:32.59 and blessed by their ministry. 00:00:32.63\00:00:34.40 Yes, I believe you will. 00:00:34.43\00:00:35.86 There is such a special blessing in store for you, 00:00:35.90\00:00:38.43 just for you. 00:00:38.47\00:00:39.80 So join us as we lift up the name of Jesus. 00:00:39.83\00:00:43.34 He is so worthy to be praised. Yes. 00:00:43.37\00:00:46.04 Come and let us magnify the Lord. 00:00:46.07\00:00:48.68 Let us exalt His name together. 00:00:48.71\00:00:51.11 Our God is an awesome God. 00:00:51.15\00:00:53.18 Our God is a worthy God. Yes. 00:00:53.21\00:00:55.22 He is worthy of praise. 00:00:55.25\00:00:57.55 Magnify the Lord with me 00:00:57.59\00:01:00.59 Magnify Him 00:01:00.62\00:01:06.13 I like to welcome Michael Gayle to Magnify Him. 00:01:06.16\00:01:10.07 Welcome, Michael. So good to have you here. 00:01:10.10\00:01:13.34 Tell us-- How did you get started in music? 00:01:13.37\00:01:16.54 Oh, I got started maybe like 25 years ago. 00:01:16.57\00:01:22.04 My sister-- You don't look that old. 00:01:22.08\00:01:23.58 Really? Thank you. 00:01:23.61\00:01:26.82 You're welcome. 00:01:26.85\00:01:28.52 But my sister, she used to take organ lessons 00:01:28.55\00:01:30.95 and I'd always ask her tons of questions. 00:01:30.99\00:01:34.59 And then she played the clarinet, 00:01:34.62\00:01:36.29 so then I learned in junior high school 00:01:36.32\00:01:38.19 how to play the saxophone. 00:01:38.23\00:01:39.79 So the saxophone is your primary instrument? 00:01:39.83\00:01:41.83 Yes, yes. 00:01:41.86\00:01:43.23 What are the instruments do you play? 00:01:43.26\00:01:46.03 Saxophone, keyboards, organ, guitar. 00:01:46.07\00:01:49.64 Oh, my, so you're a one man band? 00:01:49.67\00:01:51.87 Yes. 00:01:51.91\00:01:53.27 And you sing? Yes. 00:01:53.31\00:01:55.41 Praise the Lord. God is so good 00:01:55.44\00:01:57.58 as He gives us gifts and talents 00:01:57.61\00:01:59.95 and it's such an amazing thing. 00:01:59.98\00:02:02.08 What made you decide to use it for the Lord? 00:02:02.12\00:02:04.65 Wow. My mom actually forced me 00:02:04.69\00:02:08.16 to use it for the Lord. And it was a good thing, 00:02:08.19\00:02:11.96 because, you know, the Bible does say 00:02:11.99\00:02:13.33 to turn up your children. So it was her responsibility 00:02:13.36\00:02:16.26 to recognize the gift in me at early age 00:02:16.30\00:02:19.13 and really just push me in that direction 00:02:19.17\00:02:22.60 and when I got older, I didn't depart from it. 00:02:22.64\00:02:25.37 I was gonna say, what made you stay 00:02:25.41\00:02:27.11 since your mom forced you into it? 00:02:27.14\00:02:29.68 What made you stay in? 00:02:29.71\00:02:31.21 I found the love for music at a young age, 00:02:31.25\00:02:35.45 but eventually you make a connection 00:02:35.48\00:02:37.72 between you talents and your gift. 00:02:37.75\00:02:40.56 And if you can make that connection early, 00:02:40.59\00:02:44.29 you're pretty much not straying from there. 00:02:44.33\00:02:46.39 Explain that a little bit more, 00:02:46.43\00:02:47.76 your talents and your gifts, what do you mean? 00:02:47.80\00:02:49.30 The talent is the ability to play music, 00:02:49.33\00:02:53.30 but the gift is, musically it's the gift 00:02:53.34\00:02:55.70 of encouragement or healing or things like that. 00:02:55.74\00:02:57.77 Those are the gifts of the body of Christ. 00:02:57.81\00:03:00.31 So when God gives us a talent 00:03:00.34\00:03:02.14 whether in the Bible the parable was about, 00:03:02.18\00:03:04.08 you know, the money talent. 00:03:04.11\00:03:05.68 Right, right. 00:03:05.71\00:03:07.05 He held them accountable for what they did with it. 00:03:07.08\00:03:09.42 So everybody can do something different 00:03:09.45\00:03:11.85 with the talent God gives them, 00:03:11.89\00:03:13.66 but the gifts should edify the body of Christ 00:03:13.69\00:03:15.99 in the form of healing 00:03:16.02\00:03:18.33 or in the form of encouragement, 00:03:18.36\00:03:20.60 those are the gifts that we want to make sure 00:03:20.63\00:03:23.26 that our talent connects with the gift. 00:03:23.30\00:03:24.93 Oh, I like that. That's a good word. 00:03:24.97\00:03:28.67 That's a good word. 00:03:28.70\00:03:30.21 Would you say that when you got started, 00:03:30.24\00:03:34.48 that there were challenges, 00:03:34.51\00:03:36.54 what kinds of challenges did you face with music 00:03:36.58\00:03:39.95 and trying to be a Christian at the same time? 00:03:39.98\00:03:44.29 I think the biggest challenge I faced was... 00:03:44.32\00:03:49.76 pushing past opinions of people. 00:03:49.79\00:03:54.10 Because I'm the youngest in my family, 00:03:54.13\00:03:56.90 so usually the older ones get to do things first 00:03:56.93\00:04:01.37 and you want to do it, you know, 00:04:01.40\00:04:03.91 like little David pushing into side, get out of here, 00:04:03.94\00:04:06.01 what do you want? Right, right. 00:04:06.04\00:04:07.38 So just to push past people's opinions. 00:04:07.41\00:04:09.64 You know starting on the saxophone, 00:04:09.68\00:04:11.51 I wasn't that bad, but when I wanted 00:04:11.55\00:04:13.25 to learn keyboards at 17, 00:04:13.28\00:04:15.52 people said it was too late 00:04:15.55\00:04:17.39 and you know should have started younger 00:04:17.42\00:04:20.22 and people don't want to show you stuff. 00:04:20.26\00:04:21.79 Then you have to push past the popular opinion 00:04:21.82\00:04:26.43 and really do what God has put in your heart to do, 00:04:26.46\00:04:28.60 because He says, that He gives you he desires of your heart. 00:04:28.63\00:04:32.30 So the actual things that you want to do when you're in Him, 00:04:32.33\00:04:35.40 those actual desires are actually given to you. 00:04:35.44\00:04:38.74 So you have to kind of move past 00:04:38.77\00:04:40.41 the push back of others opinions and all. 00:04:40.44\00:04:43.75 What about the opinions about playing the saxophone, 00:04:43.78\00:04:46.45 because sometimes people think that's too jazzy 00:04:46.48\00:04:48.58 an instrument to worship with? 00:04:48.62\00:04:50.45 Well, you know, this is a different time 00:04:50.49\00:04:51.85 we're living in right now 00:04:51.89\00:04:53.22 and people are little bit more open to it. 00:04:53.25\00:04:55.26 And what I found is that people are receptors 00:04:55.29\00:04:57.99 when they see that you're not show boarding 00:04:58.03\00:04:59.96 and it's not a jazz concert. 00:05:00.00\00:05:01.66 And they realize that the person 00:05:01.70\00:05:03.87 is just really the instrument 00:05:03.90\00:05:05.37 and God is the one using them. 00:05:05.40\00:05:07.30 And the saxophone is just another tool 00:05:07.34\00:05:09.44 that can be used in worship. 00:05:09.47\00:05:11.24 Yes. And you use the saxophone 00:05:11.27\00:05:13.48 just-- Do you just play by yourself? 00:05:13.51\00:05:15.88 Just play the saxophone and worship the Lord? 00:05:15.91\00:05:18.61 Yes. I also do that on piano 00:05:18.65\00:05:20.78 because it takes a lesser wind. 00:05:20.82\00:05:22.15 But yes I do, do that often also. 00:05:25.25\00:05:28.69 And that's-- It's so important 00:05:28.72\00:05:30.09 to just worship the Lord 00:05:30.13\00:05:31.49 through the instruments that He has given us, 00:05:31.53\00:05:33.90 whether it's through our voices, 00:05:33.93\00:05:35.90 whether it's through playing the piano, saxophone, 00:05:35.93\00:05:40.57 it's all about using the instruments 00:05:40.60\00:05:43.30 that He's given us. 00:05:43.34\00:05:44.81 And today we're going to be blessed 00:05:44.84\00:05:47.14 with Michael Gayle using the instruments 00:05:47.18\00:05:49.81 that God has given him to worship 00:05:49.84\00:05:52.81 and magnify the Lord. 00:05:52.85\00:05:54.38 I truly believe that God love songs 00:08:58.00\00:08:59.90 that talk about His greatness. 00:08:59.93\00:09:01.80 The next song I'll be playing is "How Great Thou Art." 00:09:01.84\00:09:04.71 Magnify the Lord with me 00:14:17.79\00:14:20.96 Magnify Him 00:14:20.99\00:14:26.63 Praise the Lord. I'm here with Mark G. Prentice. 00:14:26.66\00:14:29.46 And what a joy it is to have you in Magnify Him. Welcome. 00:14:29.50\00:14:32.13 Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be here. 00:14:32.17\00:14:34.87 I heard you in soundtrack. 00:14:34.90\00:14:36.40 Yes. You were doing some hymns. 00:14:36.44\00:14:38.24 Yes, yes. Now I love hymns. Okay. 00:14:38.27\00:14:40.81 And what I love about hymns is that they are still current, 00:14:40.84\00:14:43.61 no matter what situation you're dealing with, 00:14:43.65\00:14:46.41 you can still find a hymn. 00:14:46.45\00:14:47.82 It's so true. Right. To match the situation. 00:14:47.85\00:14:51.25 You know, and the thing I love about hymns, 00:14:51.29\00:14:53.22 I love to have it, go so well with the Bible. 00:14:53.25\00:14:56.52 You know, it seems if it lines right up 00:14:56.56\00:14:59.16 with everything that's there. 00:14:59.19\00:15:00.80 And I just wanted-- 00:15:00.83\00:15:03.06 I wanted to sing hymns for wow. 00:15:03.10\00:15:05.60 You know like to record a album of hymns 00:15:05.63\00:15:09.20 so that I could enjoy in that, the world could enjoy it. 00:15:09.24\00:15:12.07 Now how did you go about choosing which hymn, 00:15:12.11\00:15:14.58 because there's so many hymns, 00:15:14.61\00:15:16.18 you know, there are great hymns. 00:15:16.21\00:15:17.98 Did you find that these minister to you 00:15:18.01\00:15:20.28 more than others or how did you go about choosing them? 00:15:20.32\00:15:22.98 Well, I would say yes. 00:15:23.02\00:15:24.39 It was a thing where they ministered to me. 00:15:24.42\00:15:27.16 You know, songs like "I must have Jesus." 00:15:27.76\00:15:29.92 You know, A father along, you know, 00:15:30.46\00:15:32.19 I tell you, we don't understand why things happen. 00:15:32.23\00:15:34.96 You know, when I see a lot of people dealing with hurt, 00:15:35.00\00:15:37.50 but along-- When we get to heaven 00:15:37.53\00:15:39.40 we'll know all about it, you know. 00:15:39.43\00:15:41.30 So those things and I could agree you 00:15:41.34\00:15:43.74 with and I can identify with. 00:15:43.77\00:15:46.21 Did you grow up singing hymns? 00:15:46.24\00:15:47.71 I mean, can you elaborate a little 00:15:47.74\00:15:49.84 on your background and...? 00:15:49.88\00:15:51.21 Well, my family sings, the whole family sings. 00:15:51.25\00:15:55.85 I started singing at a very young age. 00:15:55.88\00:15:58.05 Hymns wasn't a thing really now we did in a house so much. 00:15:58.09\00:16:01.69 But we were more into gospel. Yeah. 00:16:01.72\00:16:03.76 But, some of the hymns as you start listening 00:16:03.79\00:16:06.56 to the words you see the meaning of them. 00:16:06.59\00:16:10.17 And I started putting a little gospel twist 00:16:10.77\00:16:13.70 to some of these hymns, you know, 00:16:13.74\00:16:15.30 and having a good time with it. 00:16:15.34\00:16:16.67 So you arranged all of these? 00:16:16.71\00:16:18.07 Yes. 00:16:18.11\00:16:19.44 Excellent. Yes. 00:16:19.47\00:16:20.81 Do you arrange a lot of music or? 00:16:20.84\00:16:22.18 That's what I do. 00:16:22.21\00:16:23.55 I enjoy arranging and writing 00:16:23.58\00:16:26.31 and producing also, you know, 00:16:26.35\00:16:28.32 so I have a wonderful time doing that. 00:16:28.35\00:16:31.25 I love it. Yeah. 00:16:31.29\00:16:32.62 I love that. When you have a strong man 00:16:32.65\00:16:36.86 who can influence people with the word of God, 00:16:36.89\00:16:40.46 the strong man's presence is so needed, 00:16:40.50\00:16:42.83 you know, in front of our young men 00:16:42.86\00:16:44.90 and young women, they need to see us. 00:16:44.93\00:16:46.97 It's so true. 00:16:47.00\00:16:48.34 You know and in the body of Christ 00:16:48.37\00:16:50.24 we're not represent it as often as we need to be. 00:16:50.27\00:16:53.38 We often see the woman in church with the children. 00:16:53.41\00:16:56.34 You don't often see the man in church with the children. 00:16:56.38\00:16:58.41 This is shame. 00:16:58.45\00:16:59.78 This is shame no doubt, you know, 00:16:59.81\00:17:01.15 and, like I go around and sing a lot. 00:17:01.18\00:17:02.68 And just like you said, you see that often 00:17:02.72\00:17:05.52 where there's a congregation full of women 00:17:05.55\00:17:09.42 and men are so sparse, you know so. 00:17:09.46\00:17:13.83 I'm happy to be one of those that are in the church 00:17:13.86\00:17:16.26 and doing it for the Lord, you know, 00:17:16.30\00:17:17.90 and able to be that male figure in the church, you know. 00:17:17.93\00:17:21.10 Well, I appreciate that you're here. 00:17:21.14\00:17:22.70 Oh, man, it's a pleasure. Yes, yes, yes. 00:17:22.74\00:17:24.77 And I'm looking forward to the father along experience, 00:17:24.81\00:17:29.44 you know, not maybe understanding it now, 00:17:29.48\00:17:31.75 but I believe God is gonna show it to us. 00:17:31.78\00:17:33.11 I believe. 00:17:33.15\00:17:34.48 You know everything, 00:17:34.52\00:17:35.85 there is a season for everything. 00:17:35.88\00:17:37.39 And who knows how long the season is, 00:17:37.42\00:17:40.39 but we'll know about it, 00:17:40.42\00:17:42.52 we'll know about it sooner or later. 00:17:42.56\00:17:43.89 Yes, indeed. 00:17:43.93\00:17:45.26 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. 00:17:45.29\00:17:46.63 Now I want you to prepare your hearts 00:17:46.66\00:17:49.36 for the ministry of Mark G. Prentice singing 00:17:49.40\00:17:54.07 "We're Marching to Zion" that beautiful city of God. 00:17:54.10\00:17:58.01 Come, we that love the Lord 00:18:04.21\00:18:08.42 And let our joys be known 00:18:08.45\00:18:12.25 Join in a song with sweet accord 00:18:12.29\00:18:16.42 Join in a song with sweet accord 00:18:16.46\00:18:20.40 And thus surround the throne 00:18:20.43\00:18:24.53 And thus surround the throne 00:18:24.57\00:18:28.47 We're marching to Zion 00:18:28.50\00:18:32.91 Beautiful, beautiful Zion 00:18:32.94\00:18:36.78 We're marching upward to Zion 00:18:36.81\00:18:40.45 We're marching upward to heavenly Zion 00:18:40.48\00:18:44.65 We're marching up to Zion 00:18:44.69\00:18:48.59 To that beautiful city of God 00:18:48.62\00:18:52.89 Let those refuse to sing 00:18:52.93\00:18:56.97 Who never knew our God 00:18:57.00\00:19:00.80 But children of the heavenly King 00:19:00.84\00:19:04.94 But children of the heavenly King 00:19:04.97\00:19:09.04 May speak their joys abroad 00:19:09.08\00:19:12.98 May speak their joys abroad 00:19:13.01\00:19:17.12 We're marching to Zion 00:19:17.15\00:19:21.62 Beautiful, beautiful Zion 00:19:21.66\00:19:25.13 We're marching upward to Zion 00:19:25.16\00:19:29.30 We're marching upward to heavenly Zion 00:19:29.33\00:19:32.80 Oh, we're marching upward to Zion 00:19:32.83\00:19:37.07 To that beautiful city of God 00:19:37.11\00:19:41.31 The hill of Zion yields 00:19:41.34\00:19:45.35 A thousand sacred sweets 00:19:45.38\00:19:49.42 Before we reach the heavenly fields 00:19:49.45\00:19:53.39 Before we reach the heavenly fields 00:19:53.42\00:19:57.53 Or walk the golden streets 00:19:57.56\00:20:01.60 Or walk the golden streets 00:20:01.63\00:20:05.67 We're marching to Zion 00:20:05.70\00:20:10.14 Beautiful, beautiful Zion 00:20:10.17\00:20:13.84 We're marching upward to Zion 00:20:13.88\00:20:17.78 We're marching upward to heavenly Zion 00:20:17.81\00:20:21.05 Oh, we're marching upward to Zion 00:20:21.08\00:20:27.32 Upward to heavenly Zion 00:20:27.36\00:20:29.39 Oh, we're marching upward to Zion 00:20:29.42\00:20:33.90 To that beautiful city of God 00:20:33.93\00:20:37.93 Then let our songs abound 00:20:37.97\00:20:42.00 And every tear be dry 00:20:42.04\00:20:46.04 We're marching through Immanuel's ground 00:20:46.07\00:20:50.08 We're marching through Immanuel's ground 00:20:50.11\00:20:54.08 To fairer worlds on high 00:20:54.12\00:20:58.22 To fairer worlds on high 00:20:58.25\00:21:01.62 Oh, we're marching to Zion 00:21:01.66\00:21:06.70 Beautiful, beautiful Zion 00:21:06.73\00:21:10.40 We're marching upward to Zion 00:21:10.43\00:21:14.27 To that beautiful city of God 00:21:14.30\00:21:18.47 We're marching to Zion 00:21:18.51\00:21:22.88 Beautiful, beautiful Zion 00:21:22.91\00:21:26.48 We're marching upward to Zion 00:21:26.51\00:21:30.69 We're marching upward to heavenly Zion 00:21:30.72\00:21:32.49 Left foot, right foot 00:21:32.52\00:21:34.79 We're marching up to Zion 00:21:34.82\00:21:39.79 Left foot, right foot 00:21:39.83\00:21:42.66 We're marching up to Zion 00:21:42.70\00:21:46.63 To that beautiful city of God 00:21:46.67\00:21:51.11 Sometimes this life is so hard 00:21:56.61\00:21:58.91 and we don't understand 00:21:58.95\00:22:00.28 why things happen the way they do. 00:22:00.32\00:22:02.22 But Father Along will know all about it. 00:22:02.25\00:22:05.92 And years ago my father used to sing this song 00:22:05.95\00:22:08.82 and I didn't know what it meant back then, 00:22:08.86\00:22:10.33 but I know what it means more now. 00:22:10.36\00:22:13.29 Father along will know 00:22:18.43\00:22:23.61 all about it 00:22:23.64\00:22:27.38 Father along will 00:22:27.41\00:22:31.51 understand why 00:22:31.55\00:22:35.92 Cheer up my brother 00:22:35.95\00:22:40.29 live in the sunshine 00:22:40.32\00:22:43.93 'Cause we'll understand it 00:22:43.96\00:22:48.73 all by and by 00:22:48.76\00:22:53.27 Tempted and tried 00:22:53.30\00:22:56.24 will often me to wonder 00:22:56.27\00:23:01.91 Why it should be thus 00:23:01.94\00:23:06.18 all the day long 00:23:06.21\00:23:10.55 While there are others 00:23:10.59\00:23:14.82 living about us 00:23:14.86\00:23:19.26 Never molested, 00:23:19.29\00:23:23.50 though in the wrong 00:23:23.53\00:23:27.77 Father along will know 00:23:27.80\00:23:32.71 all about it 00:23:32.74\00:23:36.44 Father along will 00:23:36.48\00:23:40.68 understand why 00:23:40.72\00:23:45.12 Cheer up my brother 00:23:45.15\00:23:49.26 live in the sunshine 00:23:49.29\00:23:53.26 'Cause we'll understand it 00:23:53.29\00:23:58.27 all by and by 00:23:58.30\00:24:02.24 Tempted and tried 00:24:02.27\00:24:05.84 how often we question 00:24:05.87\00:24:10.91 Why we must suffer 00:24:10.95\00:24:15.15 year after year 00:24:15.18\00:24:19.72 Be in a queue by those 00:24:19.75\00:24:24.69 of our loved ones 00:24:24.73\00:24:28.26 Even though we want 00:24:28.30\00:24:32.73 in God's holy fair 00:24:32.77\00:24:36.07 Oh, Father along 00:24:36.10\00:24:39.37 will know all about it 00:24:39.41\00:24:45.51 Father along He will 00:24:45.55\00:24:49.98 understand why 00:24:50.02\00:24:54.32 Cheer up my brother 00:24:54.36\00:24:58.49 live in the sunshine 00:24:58.53\00:25:02.13 'Cause we'll understand it 00:25:02.16\00:25:07.14 all by and by 00:25:07.17\00:25:11.67 We'll understand it 00:25:11.71\00:25:15.88 all by and by 00:25:15.91\00:25:20.22 We'll understand it 00:25:20.25\00:25:24.52 all by and by By and by 00:25:24.55\00:25:28.86 We'll understand it 00:25:28.89\00:25:33.29 all by and by 00:25:33.33\00:25:37.43 Soon we will see 00:25:37.47\00:25:40.40 our dear love and Savior 00:25:40.44\00:25:46.24 Here the last trumpet 00:25:46.27\00:25:50.25 sound through the sky 00:25:50.28\00:25:54.75 Then we will meet 00:25:54.78\00:25:57.72 those gone on before us 00:25:57.75\00:26:03.29 Then we shall know 00:26:03.32\00:26:06.73 and understand 00:26:06.76\00:26:09.43 Why Father along 00:26:09.46\00:26:14.90 will, will know all about it 00:26:14.94\00:26:20.91 Father along will 00:26:20.94\00:26:24.68 understand why 00:26:24.71\00:26:29.28 Cheer up my brothers, my sisters 00:26:29.32\00:26:32.55 My brothers live in the sunshine 00:26:32.59\00:26:37.13 'Cause we'll understand it 00:26:37.16\00:26:42.63 all by and by 00:26:42.66\00:26:49.00 Yes, we'll Yes, we'll 00:26:49.04\00:26:52.67 all by and by 00:26:52.71\00:26:57.05 Might not know why you're going through 00:26:57.08\00:26:59.95 What you're through right now 00:26:59.98\00:27:02.02 But Father along will, 00:27:02.05\00:27:06.02 We will, we will, we will 00:27:06.05\00:27:08.72 all by and by 00:27:08.76\00:27:12.73 You will understand 00:27:12.76\00:27:16.80 All by and by 00:27:16.83\00:27:21.34 You will understand 00:27:21.37\00:27:23.34 Oh, yes, 00:27:23.37\00:27:25.77 all by and by 00:27:25.81\00:27:29.91 Magnify Him 00:27:42.62\00:27:48.16 Duawne, wasn't that program a blessing? 00:27:48.20\00:27:49.93 Yes. 00:27:49.96\00:27:51.30 You know if we just would give God the praise 00:27:51.33\00:27:54.30 and magnify Him not just with our voices, 00:27:54.34\00:27:56.97 but with our whole hearts would be amazing. 00:27:57.01\00:27:59.54 It would be. Thank you for tuning in. 00:27:59.57\00:28:01.88 And until next time... 00:28:01.91\00:28:03.24