Welcome to Marriage In God's Hands. 00:00:30.42\00:00:34.26 I'm Alanzo Smith and this is my lovely wife, June. 00:00:34.29\00:00:40.04 We have been married for 33 years. 00:00:40.07\00:00:43.67 And we have been working with families around the world 00:00:43.70\00:00:49.43 as we help them to negotiate their lives to make home 00:00:49.46\00:00:54.80 happier and better. 00:00:54.83\00:00:56.46 We would like to talk today about families 00:00:57.18\00:01:01.28 that are having problems. 00:01:01.31\00:01:03.19 So our topic is, When Your Marriage is in Trouble. 00:01:03.22\00:01:07.43 June, do you think that we have marriages that are 00:01:07.46\00:01:11.57 in trouble these days? 00:01:11.58\00:01:13.53 Unfortunately, too many. 00:01:13.56\00:01:15.92 The challenge, however, is that there are some people 00:01:15.95\00:01:19.69 who don't admit that their marriage is in trouble. 00:01:19.72\00:01:23.38 I've had so many women that say to me, 00:01:23.41\00:01:27.63 "We're having problems and we need to go get help 00:01:27.66\00:01:30.75 but my husband refuses because he does not think 00:01:30.78\00:01:34.68 we're having a problem. " 00:01:34.71\00:01:36.02 Or I've had husbands who say, "We're having problems. 00:01:36.05\00:01:39.90 I'm about to walk away. 00:01:39.93\00:01:41.99 I've invited my wife to come to get help but she refuses 00:01:42.02\00:01:46.41 because she doesn't think we have a problem. 00:01:46.44\00:01:48.98 She thinks I am the problem. " 00:01:49.01\00:01:51.18 Okay, as two clinicians, let's see if we can 00:01:51.21\00:01:56.58 diagnose the problem. 00:01:56.61\00:01:58.80 If I should say the following statement to you, 00:01:58.83\00:02:02.29 what might be your response? 00:02:02.32\00:02:04.94 "Your marriage is in trouble when each partner 00:02:04.97\00:02:11.45 gets agitated very easily. " 00:02:11.48\00:02:14.69 If the agitant is perceived to be caused by or imposed by 00:02:14.72\00:02:22.35 one of the parties, then yes, there is a problem. 00:02:22.36\00:02:25.98 Okay, "Your marriage is in trouble when one partner 00:02:26.01\00:02:32.26 shuts down emotionally. " 00:02:32.29\00:02:35.08 That happens frequently. 00:02:35.11\00:02:37.36 When individuals get frustrated or when they think they have 00:02:37.39\00:02:41.42 done everything they have control or power over 00:02:41.45\00:02:44.07 and nothing seems to be working, then they just give up. 00:02:44.10\00:02:47.80 It's almost like, you know, the computer shuts down. 00:02:47.83\00:02:50.95 Their emotions just go blank. 00:02:50.98\00:02:53.17 "Your marriage is in trouble when one partner 00:02:54.27\00:02:58.03 is over critical; very critical and sensitive and makes 00:02:58.06\00:03:03.93 an issue over everything. " 00:03:03.96\00:03:06.96 That clearly indicates problems. 00:03:06.99\00:03:09.20 While you should be open to feedback and you should 00:03:09.23\00:03:13.60 certainly be able to communicate effectively, if you're 00:03:13.63\00:03:16.69 only criticized or criticizing, then that's not a good thing. 00:03:16.72\00:03:21.56 "Your marriage is in trouble when one partner 00:03:22.39\00:03:25.52 feels stretched out. 00:03:25.55\00:03:27.71 'I have reached my limit. I've done my best. 00:03:27.74\00:03:31.65 I don't think there's any more I can do for this marriage 00:03:31.68\00:03:34.74 and I am tired of trying. '" 00:03:34.77\00:03:37.20 That must be such a sad state to get to. 00:03:37.70\00:03:39.90 Because a marriage is designed to be a happy union, 00:03:39.93\00:03:45.07 to be a harmonious relationship. 00:03:45.08\00:03:47.82 And if you get to a point in your relationship where you 00:03:47.85\00:03:51.45 give up or you think you have done everything you can 00:03:51.48\00:03:54.59 and you're at the end of your rope, then you 00:03:54.62\00:03:56.83 definitely need help. 00:03:56.86\00:03:58.91 I also believe that your marriage is in trouble when 00:03:59.31\00:04:04.37 one partner is insensitive. 00:04:04.40\00:04:06.80 You know, sensitivity goes a long way in helping 00:04:06.83\00:04:10.68 marital relationships to grow and to bond and to be stronger. 00:04:10.71\00:04:14.62 When one individual is insensitive, however, 00:04:15.68\00:04:18.84 to one's feelings, insensitive to one's pain, 00:04:18.85\00:04:22.56 insensitive to one's problem, or whatever it is, 00:04:22.59\00:04:25.19 insensitivity can drive a dagger into the heart 00:04:25.20\00:04:29.25 of the next person. 00:04:29.28\00:04:30.50 So, yes, the marriage is in trouble if you find a partner 00:04:30.51\00:04:34.33 that is very insensitive to you. 00:04:34.36\00:04:36.80 It is the goal of all relationships to be happy, 00:04:37.59\00:04:43.55 to problem solve if there are problems, 00:04:43.58\00:04:46.22 to get help if you're not able to resolve the problems. 00:04:46.25\00:04:49.57 But certainly, not to stay in disharmony. 00:04:49.60\00:04:53.55 So the challenge is that we should recognize when 00:04:53.58\00:04:57.15 there is a problem and get help early. 00:04:57.18\00:05:00.81 Okay, let's look at some possible causes now. 00:05:00.84\00:05:04.42 We have given you some scenarios as to what could cause 00:05:04.45\00:05:09.20 a marriage to be in trouble, or when it's in trouble 00:05:09.23\00:05:11.94 when these things are happening. 00:05:11.97\00:05:13.41 It's in trouble when these things are happening. 00:05:13.44\00:05:15.21 What might be some of the possible causes? 00:05:15.22\00:05:19.19 I think there are a myriad of causes. 00:05:20.06\00:05:22.98 But among the ones I can think of are, people sometimes 00:05:23.01\00:05:27.61 don't take responsibility for for how they're 00:05:27.62\00:05:31.15 contributing to the problem. 00:05:31.18\00:05:32.49 And so they point fingers or they blame the other person. 00:05:32.52\00:05:35.81 And if you're in a relationship where there are problems, 00:05:35.84\00:05:39.18 even if the other person is directly contributing to it, 00:05:39.21\00:05:42.66 chances are the way you're adjusting or not, 00:05:42.69\00:05:45.90 the way you're relating, the way you respond, 00:05:45.93\00:05:48.15 or the way you're communicating, 00:05:48.18\00:05:49.62 there's something you're doing that's feeding that behavior. 00:05:49.65\00:05:52.15 So both of you must take responsibility to resolve it. 00:05:52.18\00:05:55.71 A marriage problem is not just one person's problem. 00:05:55.74\00:05:58.26 It is a problem between "us". 00:05:58.29\00:06:00.74 You're listening to us. 00:06:01.31\00:06:02.55 And if you have a rigid mindset, that would be a problem. 00:06:02.58\00:06:09.01 That's a cause for a problem in the marital relationship. 00:06:09.04\00:06:12.44 You see, human beings are not static human beings. 00:06:12.47\00:06:17.06 We're dynamic. 00:06:17.07\00:06:18.69 The way God created us, we're dynamic human beings. 00:06:18.72\00:06:22.02 We're able to change. 00:06:22.05\00:06:23.52 Change our positions, reflect, go back on. 00:06:23.55\00:06:26.79 That kind of a thing. 00:06:26.82\00:06:28.13 But if you are rigid, if you are inflexible, 00:06:28.16\00:06:31.31 if it is just what I say, what I want, what I feel, 00:06:31.34\00:06:35.60 if you have this kind of rigid mentality, 00:06:35.63\00:06:38.77 you are creating problems in the marriage. 00:06:38.80\00:06:42.33 There are times when there will be difficulties. 00:06:42.86\00:06:45.83 There are times when you will say things 00:06:45.86\00:06:48.08 that upset each other. 00:06:48.11\00:06:49.18 There are times when you'll frustrate each other. 00:06:49.21\00:06:51.30 But you are on the same team. 00:06:51.33\00:06:54.48 Your goal is to work it through. 00:06:54.51\00:06:57.57 So when you do something and you say, "I'm sorry," 00:06:57.60\00:07:01.49 it means it's gone. 00:07:01.52\00:07:03.38 It should be a thing of the past. 00:07:03.41\00:07:05.42 Let it go. 00:07:05.45\00:07:06.73 But if you carry grudges and keep bringing back the past 00:07:06.76\00:07:11.05 and throwing back the past in the person's face, as it were, 00:07:11.08\00:07:14.38 then you are going to be an agitant to the problems. 00:07:14.39\00:07:17.64 Let's talk a little about unfulfilled dreams 00:07:17.94\00:07:21.80 in relationships. 00:07:21.83\00:07:23.44 Because a lot of times individuals are frustrated 00:07:23.47\00:07:27.90 in their relationship because they feel unaccomplished, 00:07:27.93\00:07:32.51 they feel like their dreams are not met, 00:07:32.54\00:07:35.20 their goals are not met. 00:07:35.23\00:07:36.56 And how to do live with someone who is carrying these feelings 00:07:36.59\00:07:42.28 where sometimes they think you're the cause 00:07:42.31\00:07:44.90 of my unfulfilled dreams? 00:07:44.93\00:07:46.64 "If I hadn't married you, I would have gone 00:07:46.67\00:07:49.85 on to medical school. " 00:07:50.05\00:07:51.58 If I had not... 00:07:51.62\00:07:52.61 And so you keep hearing this over and over. 00:07:52.64\00:07:56.42 What does that do to your psyche? 00:07:57.02\00:07:59.17 It will allow you to feel like you're in a very bad place. 00:07:59.20\00:08:05.20 You're not responsible for the personal choices that one makes. 00:08:05.23\00:08:10.62 And so if for whatever reason being married was a hindrance 00:08:10.65\00:08:15.34 to your progress, then that is something you have to 00:08:15.37\00:08:20.23 work through, but not blame your partner. 00:08:20.26\00:08:22.48 If there was something that your partner did that may have 00:08:22.51\00:08:26.75 hindered your success, then hey, things happen. 00:08:26.78\00:08:31.73 Don't allow it to destroy your relationship. 00:08:31.76\00:08:34.42 Work it through. 00:08:34.45\00:08:35.46 So whatever the problem is, the reality is, move on. 00:08:35.49\00:08:40.06 We're talking about when your marriage is in trouble. 00:08:41.04\00:08:45.03 Some people possess what we call, impulse control. 00:08:45.82\00:08:49.68 They just cannot control themselves. 00:08:49.71\00:08:52.40 They act on emotion, they act on impulse, 00:08:52.43\00:08:56.22 they are irrational. 00:08:56.25\00:08:58.05 That is destructive to a relationship. 00:08:58.08\00:09:00.86 When we have poor impulse control, it means we 00:09:00.89\00:09:04.79 can't regulate our emotions. 00:09:04.82\00:09:06.74 And so yes, that becomes a real problem. 00:09:06.77\00:09:09.47 Because we are suppose to be able to control our impulses. 00:09:09.50\00:09:12.03 You get angry but you don't act on the anger. 00:09:12.06\00:09:14.15 As the Bible says, you get angry but sin not. 00:09:14.18\00:09:17.70 So while it's a natural thing for you to get upset 00:09:17.73\00:09:20.79 at some things, you should be able to control. 00:09:20.82\00:09:24.61 But there are some people who are just out of control. 00:09:24.81\00:09:27.46 They break things up, they throw things around, 00:09:27.49\00:09:31.96 they throw tantrums. 00:09:31.99\00:09:34.23 And the funny thing about it is that sometimes there are 00:09:34.26\00:09:37.40 children in the home and they're behaving this way and they 00:09:37.43\00:09:40.28 don't understand that this does have an effect on the children. 00:09:40.31\00:09:43.41 If you're in a relationship where there's physical abuse, 00:09:43.44\00:09:45.95 that is unacceptable. 00:09:45.98\00:09:47.32 Two partners, two lovers just shouldn't be behaving like that. 00:09:47.80\00:09:51.96 And that's a very psychological, emotional, destructive 00:09:51.99\00:09:55.03 way to live. 00:09:55.06\00:09:56.14 So that is another seminar really. 00:09:56.17\00:09:58.99 But yes, those are signs that tell you there are problems 00:09:59.02\00:10:02.89 and you need help. 00:10:02.92\00:10:03.97 You know, you talk about signs and needing help. 00:10:04.92\00:10:09.40 When marriages are in trouble, often times people feel 00:10:09.43\00:10:16.91 like they can solve their problem on their own. 00:10:16.94\00:10:21.13 It's this feeling like if I have a tooth ache, 00:10:21.16\00:10:25.91 I know I am to go to the dentist. 00:10:25.94\00:10:27.41 If I'm having a heart problem condition, I know I'm to go 00:10:27.44\00:10:32.16 to see a cardiologist. 00:10:32.17\00:10:33.94 Any medical condition, I know I need to get help. 00:10:33.95\00:10:36.93 But if the marriage is having problems, I can take care of it. 00:10:36.96\00:10:41.03 Is that a right approach, a right attitude? 00:10:41.06\00:10:43.92 That's usually why the problem escalates 00:10:44.02\00:10:46.83 or the marriage falls apart. 00:10:46.86\00:10:48.64 Because many times, the things that agitates isn't something 00:10:48.67\00:10:52.84 that the partners are even aware of sometimes, 00:10:52.87\00:10:55.45 or that they're resolving on their own. 00:10:55.48\00:10:58.44 And so we do encourage that they seek help, 00:10:58.45\00:11:01.06 whether the help is from a spiritual leader, 00:11:01.09\00:11:03.63 or a professional counselor, or somebody who is objective 00:11:03.66\00:11:06.32 and is able to help you. 00:11:06.35\00:11:09.20 But don't just sit back and allow your marriage to 00:11:09.23\00:11:11.66 disintegrate simply because you refused to get help 00:11:11.69\00:11:14.53 thinking it will automatically go away. 00:11:14.56\00:11:16.85 You know, well said. 00:11:16.88\00:11:19.37 One can contribute to a problem in a marriage 00:11:19.40\00:11:23.93 when you minimize an individual's pain. 00:11:23.96\00:11:27.60 What should be the reaction? 00:11:27.63\00:11:30.35 Together, here we are. 00:11:30.38\00:11:32.72 We have been married for these many years and 00:11:32.75\00:11:35.16 we thank God for that. 00:11:35.19\00:11:36.75 But we're in a marital relationship and if I say 00:11:36.78\00:11:41.12 I'm frustrated about something or I'm hurting about something, 00:11:41.13\00:11:45.42 should you minimize my pain, should you ignore it? 00:11:45.45\00:11:48.67 Should you act as if, "Well, you're an adult. 00:11:48.70\00:11:50.68 Go deal with it. " 00:11:50.71\00:11:51.79 What should be your attitude? 00:11:51.82\00:11:53.54 I need to feel with you. It's called empathy. 00:11:54.20\00:11:57.26 Put myself in your place. 00:11:57.29\00:11:58.84 While I may not quite understand what you're feeling, 00:11:58.87\00:12:01.63 the reality is that I want to share your pain. 00:12:01.64\00:12:03.75 So no, I don't want to discount it. 00:12:03.78\00:12:06.19 I don't want to minimize it. 00:12:06.22\00:12:07.40 I don't want to say, "Oh, you're being a kid, grow up. " 00:12:07.43\00:12:10.36 I want to listen to what you have to say, 00:12:10.39\00:12:12.18 find out what and where the pain is coming from, 00:12:12.19\00:12:14.64 and help you if I can to get help. 00:12:14.67\00:12:17.70 What if I shut down emotionally because I want to register 00:12:17.73\00:12:23.13 a protest, so I shut down emotionally? 00:12:23.16\00:12:26.52 What should be your... 00:12:26.55\00:12:28.33 Unfortunately, God has not given us the power to read minds. 00:12:28.36\00:12:32.63 And while we might be able to interpret nonverbal's at times, 00:12:32.66\00:12:36.40 the truth is if you talk about what's going on, 00:12:36.43\00:12:40.05 then your partner can assist you better. 00:12:40.08\00:12:43.00 So shutting down and withdrawing is a very negative way to 00:12:43.03\00:12:46.72 try to resolve a problem. 00:12:46.73\00:12:48.58 There are always problems in relationships. 00:12:49.08\00:12:52.42 We're talking today about when your marriage is in trouble. 00:12:52.45\00:12:56.27 There is so much we need to talk about and there is so much 00:12:56.30\00:12:59.14 we want to share with you. 00:12:59.17\00:13:00.40 And we want to take you into the area of what to do. 00:13:00.43\00:13:03.65 Perhaps your marriage is in trouble. 00:13:03.68\00:13:06.03 Perhaps you have been challenged at this time. 00:13:06.06\00:13:09.32 What do you do? 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" 00:14:31.72\00:14:35.37 Now there are some factors that can cause a marriage 00:14:35.40\00:14:40.30 to be in trouble. 00:14:40.33\00:14:41.35 What would you say to your listeners? 00:14:42.18\00:14:44.79 What are some of these factors? 00:14:44.82\00:14:46.37 Earlier we talked about some of the things that creates 00:14:46.88\00:14:49.47 the problems and puts one in trouble. 00:14:49.50\00:14:52.77 But I think in general terms, we might say 00:14:52.80\00:14:55.82 there could be religious incompatibility 00:14:55.85\00:14:57.99 or spiritual incompatibility. 00:14:58.02\00:14:59.53 You might be of the same faith but you're at different levels 00:14:59.56\00:15:03.66 in your spiritual journey. 00:15:03.69\00:15:05.10 And you're just not getting the stimulation and the 00:15:05.13\00:15:08.13 encouragement and the support from your partner. 00:15:08.16\00:15:10.82 You may, for example in some homes, you might avoid 00:15:10.83\00:15:16.40 having family worship and it is important to the 00:15:16.43\00:15:19.07 other partner to have it. 00:15:19.10\00:15:21.04 So that could create a problem. 00:15:21.07\00:15:23.12 Or tithe paying, even. 00:15:23.15\00:15:24.64 A lot of times, that creates a lot of problems in families. 00:15:24.67\00:15:29.01 One person believes that they should return a faithful tithe, 00:15:29.04\00:15:31.96 the other person does not feel. 00:15:31.97\00:15:33.93 And so there are religious factors that can create. 00:15:33.96\00:15:37.18 How about social factors? 00:15:37.19\00:15:38.96 That sometimes is a major problem. 00:15:38.97\00:15:41.40 The way one socializes and the way you divide your 00:15:41.41\00:15:46.55 social network or integrate the social network 00:15:46.56\00:15:49.67 can create a problem. 00:15:49.68\00:15:50.96 For example, if you have a network of friends 00:15:50.97\00:15:54.58 that isn't inclusive and your partner feels like there 00:15:54.59\00:15:59.69 are secret relationships and you have divested energy 00:15:59.70\00:16:04.35 from the relationship into these other friendships, 00:16:04.36\00:16:07.20 then that becomes a point of pain many times. 00:16:07.21\00:16:10.20 Would this be considered a social factor too, 00:16:10.21\00:16:12.39 like we call a syndrome, the Peter Pan syndrome; 00:16:12.40\00:16:15.96 men who haven't grown up, men who have left home, 00:16:15.97\00:16:19.20 that it creates a problem for the marital relationship 00:16:19.21\00:16:23.13 because they're acting like boys when they should 00:16:23.14\00:16:26.36 be grown up men. 00:16:26.37\00:16:27.34 And I think the reverse can be true where some women 00:16:27.84\00:16:30.75 just don't take on the role that the mother and wife 00:16:30.76\00:16:33.54 should be playing and they act like they're little girls still 00:16:33.55\00:16:36.18 playing with dolls rather than being in a real life experience. 00:16:36.19\00:16:39.68 So it could go either way. 00:16:39.69\00:16:41.09 How about economic factors? 00:16:41.10\00:16:42.73 That's probably one of the major problems that marriages have. 00:16:42.74\00:16:46.25 Issues on spending, budgeting. 00:16:46.26\00:16:48.45 The feeling of being in control. 00:16:48.46\00:16:50.54 The feeling that, you know, "I work, it's my money. 00:16:50.55\00:16:53.48 I can buy what I want. " 00:16:53.49\00:16:54.47 And so there is no budgeting, there is no organized spending. 00:16:54.50\00:16:58.10 And so the resources are not tied together for the 00:16:58.11\00:17:01.41 common good of the family. 00:17:01.42\00:17:03.14 And we should add to this list the education factor. 00:17:03.15\00:17:07.04 Education is a factor because sometimes that creates 00:17:07.05\00:17:10.74 problems in the relationship. 00:17:10.75\00:17:12.13 You know, it's amazing, it's strange how when two people 00:17:12.14\00:17:15.43 are dating, when two people are in love, that often times 00:17:15.44\00:17:19.22 they don't look at some of these variables, these factors 00:17:19.23\00:17:21.53 that we're talking about. 00:17:21.54\00:17:22.58 And so one individual might be highly educated and the 00:17:22.59\00:17:25.37 next person is not, and it's no problem. 00:17:25.38\00:17:27.28 But after they are married, then they start having 00:17:27.29\00:17:30.17 different problems in social settings where they want to go, 00:17:30.18\00:17:33.52 one is not comfortable going, then the issue of education 00:17:33.53\00:17:37.07 comes into play. 00:17:37.08\00:17:38.35 And one starts saying, "Well yes, because you're educated 00:17:38.36\00:17:41.22 and you think I'm not. " 00:17:41.23\00:17:42.25 And that can create a lot of havoc. 00:17:42.26\00:17:44.89 So we're saying that's something that you need to examine. 00:17:44.92\00:17:48.47 The final one I think we should look at is ethnicity; 00:17:48.48\00:17:51.59 the ethnic factor. 00:17:51.60\00:17:53.20 There are many families who are in relationships that are 00:17:53.63\00:17:57.25 blended from different cultures and different 00:17:57.26\00:17:59.37 ethnic backgrounds and are doing well and are able 00:17:59.38\00:18:01.61 to communicate effectively. 00:18:01.62\00:18:02.87 But there are others who, sometimes there are cultural 00:18:02.88\00:18:05.05 nuances that creates difficulties in understanding 00:18:05.06\00:18:07.85 and comprehending behavior. 00:18:07.86\00:18:09.29 And it sometimes gets stereotyped or you know, 00:18:09.30\00:18:12.14 it creates trauma. 00:18:12.15\00:18:14.16 So yeah, those are sometimes issues that 00:18:14.17\00:18:16.94 places a marriage in trouble. 00:18:16.95\00:18:19.01 When your marriage is in trouble. 00:18:19.02\00:18:22.28 We have identified some of the factors, some of the 00:18:22.29\00:18:24.73 causative factors that can make a marriage troublesome. 00:18:24.74\00:18:29.57 The question that we must now ask and address is, 00:18:29.58\00:18:33.54 where do you go from here? 00:18:33.55\00:18:35.24 What do you do? 00:18:35.25\00:18:37.08 And we want to say to you, the first step that you 00:18:37.09\00:18:40.74 must take is commitment. 00:18:40.75\00:18:43.14 You both must make a commitment that you want to stay together. 00:18:43.15\00:18:48.74 Now I'm cognitive of the fact that one hand cannot clap. 00:18:48.75\00:18:52.68 It takes two people to make this commitment. 00:18:52.69\00:18:55.44 So we're encouraging both parties, both spouses, 00:18:55.45\00:18:59.24 to make a commitment because that's the first starting point. 00:18:59.25\00:19:02.44 That you both commit that, "We are willing to hang in there 00:19:02.45\00:19:06.26 and to work this thing through. " 00:19:06.27\00:19:07.64 Now once there's a commitment, I think that next step 00:19:07.65\00:19:10.58 is to clarify what you perceive, either of you perceive, 00:19:10.59\00:19:15.44 as the problem. 00:19:15.45\00:19:16.43 Because what I find in listening to families or couples who 00:19:16.44\00:19:19.56 have problems is that one person thinks this is the problem, 00:19:19.57\00:19:23.08 and then you ask the other person from their perspective 00:19:23.09\00:19:25.08 what is the problem, and they have a 00:19:25.09\00:19:26.39 total different perception. 00:19:26.40\00:19:28.26 So it is important that you're dealing with the same issue 00:19:28.27\00:19:30.98 and that both of you are resolving the same issue. 00:19:30.99\00:19:33.76 Because then you could be operating on 00:19:33.77\00:19:36.20 two different planes. 00:19:36.21\00:19:37.27 You know, June, one of the things I hear, 00:19:37.28\00:19:39.74 and I'm sure you too among our clients that come in 00:19:39.75\00:19:43.69 for counseling, is the notion of listening. 00:19:43.70\00:19:46.89 It seems as if listening has become the long lost art. 00:19:46.90\00:19:51.44 But I hear a lot of spouses complaining that their partner 00:19:51.45\00:19:56.52 does not listen. 00:19:56.53\00:19:57.69 That they get frustrated and flustered when they're 00:19:57.70\00:20:00.44 speaking to their partner and they're not listening to them. 00:20:00.45\00:20:04.18 Do you find that to be... 00:20:04.19\00:20:06.41 I think in general whether you're in a marriage or not, 00:20:06.42\00:20:09.01 listening is a very difficult skill for people to have. 00:20:09.02\00:20:11.47 We like to talk, talk, talk. 00:20:11.48\00:20:13.46 And we just find it difficult listen. 00:20:13.47\00:20:16.54 So it's a skill, it's an art, that people really 00:20:16.55\00:20:18.76 have to develop. 00:20:18.77\00:20:19.79 And it creates difficulties. 00:20:19.80\00:20:22.54 Wives often complain especially, "My husband doesn't listen. 00:20:22.55\00:20:25.96 Or if I'm speaking to him, he's watching football 00:20:25.97\00:20:28.12 at the same time. " 00:20:28.13\00:20:29.16 Or the child who comes to talk to the parent, you know, 00:20:29.17\00:20:32.82 the parent is multitasking while the child is communicating. 00:20:32.83\00:20:35.69 So yes, listening can be a challenge. 00:20:35.70\00:20:38.01 And that is something that is very essential 00:20:38.02\00:20:39.75 if you're going to work towards a resolution. 00:20:39.76\00:20:41.99 But if that father is sitting on the couch watching his 00:20:42.00\00:20:46.68 favorite sports come playoff, and you know, he's into the game 00:20:46.69\00:20:50.68 and the wife comes talking to him, is it that he's not 00:20:50.69\00:20:54.47 listening or he's not hearing, he's not communicating? 00:20:54.48\00:20:57.81 What's happening right there? 00:20:57.82\00:20:58.97 He isn't listening to her, but he is communicating. 00:20:58.98\00:21:02.53 He's saying, "Leave me alone, I'm doing what I want to do. " 00:21:02.54\00:21:05.50 And that of course pushes her away and creates other 00:21:05.51\00:21:08.55 kinds of problems. 00:21:08.56\00:21:09.54 Okay, we're talking about what to do. 00:21:09.55\00:21:11.62 We have problems in the relationship, what to do. 00:21:11.63\00:21:14.20 Now here we are, we want to talk about the issue. 00:21:14.40\00:21:19.18 Should we talk about the person or should we talk 00:21:19.19\00:21:23.79 about the problem? 00:21:23.80\00:21:25.24 Once you both have committed that you want to stay married, 00:21:25.25\00:21:28.49 and you both decide on what the mutual problem is, 00:21:28.50\00:21:31.83 then yes, you need to stay with the issue. 00:21:31.84\00:21:34.63 You stay away from descriptions and adjectives about the person. 00:21:34.64\00:21:37.92 "You are like your father. " 00:21:37.93\00:21:39.70 "You are such a terrible wife. " Whatever. 00:21:39.71\00:21:41.76 You don't describe the individual. 00:21:41.77\00:21:42.91 You say, "When you leave my laundry undone, 00:21:42.92\00:21:47.32 you know, it frustrates me because I assume 00:21:47.33\00:21:50.16 I have clean clothes and I go and there's none. " 00:21:50.17\00:21:52.70 So you talk about what's causing the problem 00:21:52.71\00:21:54.83 and what the issue is that's the upset, 00:21:54.84\00:21:57.10 but not about the two individuals. 00:21:57.11\00:21:58.89 So you're saying, focus on the issue. 00:21:58.90\00:22:01.01 You should also accept responsibility. 00:22:01.02\00:22:04.00 One of the things that causes marital breakdown 00:22:04.01\00:22:07.39 and why there are a lot of arguments and fights 00:22:07.40\00:22:10.23 is that people fail to accept responsibility for what 00:22:10.24\00:22:13.85 they have done. 00:22:13.86\00:22:15.24 Often times a spouse comes into me and they will say 00:22:15.25\00:22:18.09 something like this, "My spouse is never wrong. 00:22:18.10\00:22:22.57 He can never admit to a wrong. " 00:22:22.58\00:22:25.53 As individuals, you know, the Bible says, "Except ye become 00:22:25.54\00:22:29.51 as little children, ye cannot enter into the 00:22:29.52\00:22:32.20 kingdom of heaven. " 00:22:32.21\00:22:33.22 That's talking about humility. 00:22:33.23\00:22:34.92 So we have to be humble enough to see the part that 00:22:34.93\00:22:38.59 we're playing in the marital destruction, 00:22:38.60\00:22:41.58 and own it, accept it. 00:22:41.59\00:22:43.47 We have to accept responsibility for our behavior 00:22:43.48\00:22:47.22 and for our action. 00:22:47.23\00:22:48.89 Another thing that I think is important is that each person 00:22:49.09\00:22:51.95 in the conversation in their attempt to resolve this issue 00:22:51.96\00:22:55.88 should, as we said, speak directly to the issue. 00:22:55.89\00:22:59.16 But identify the concerns that you have about the dynamic 00:22:59.17\00:23:03.26 that's going on. 00:23:03.27\00:23:04.33 And clearly ask for what it is that you would 00:23:04.34\00:23:08.75 like to be changed so that you don't blame the other person. 00:23:08.76\00:23:12.08 You're sticking to the issue but you're also 00:23:12.09\00:23:14.36 identifying a remedy. 00:23:14.37\00:23:15.40 What do I need from you? 00:23:15.41\00:23:16.85 How can you help me feel better, or act better, or etc. 00:23:16.86\00:23:20.75 That's what I need. 00:23:20.76\00:23:21.79 Then let me decide how I will go about doing that. 00:23:21.80\00:23:25.34 So I'm hearing you saying then that we should not just 00:23:25.35\00:23:29.59 state the problem and we should not just focus on the problem, 00:23:29.60\00:23:33.35 but we should say, what changes could we input, implement, 00:23:33.36\00:23:40.30 that would help to make the situation better. 00:23:40.31\00:23:42.87 So we should also have some solutions. 00:23:42.88\00:23:45.18 What type of solutions? 00:23:45.19\00:23:46.41 We're working together, we're on the same team. 00:23:46.42\00:23:48.41 So I state a problem and I'm saying, "June, I think it 00:23:48.42\00:23:53.04 would be helpful to the relationship if we could... " 00:23:53.05\00:23:56.47 And I provide a workable solution. 00:23:56.48\00:23:58.83 It's an act of compromise as we're trying to 00:23:58.84\00:24:01.97 work through the solution. 00:24:01.98\00:24:02.99 And it's also providing some remedy. 00:24:03.00\00:24:05.16 Because the expectation is, you say, "this is a problem," 00:24:05.17\00:24:08.71 but then you're assuming the other spouse knows 00:24:08.72\00:24:12.23 what to do about it. 00:24:12.24\00:24:13.29 So if you say, "This is the problem and this is how it 00:24:13.30\00:24:16.58 would be helpful," or "This is what I would like or expect," 00:24:16.59\00:24:19.56 then it allows the other person some leverage 00:24:19.57\00:24:21.89 and they can either negotiate the terms of how they deliver, 00:24:21.90\00:24:25.29 but at least they know what you want different. 00:24:25.30\00:24:27.76 And as you continue this discussion, this dialogue of 00:24:27.77\00:24:30.42 resolving the conflict, it is important for you to reaffirm 00:24:30.43\00:24:34.79 your love for each other, to reaffirm your commitment 00:24:34.80\00:24:39.06 to each other and your commitment to the 00:24:39.07\00:24:40.96 children and to the family. 00:24:40.97\00:24:42.41 That's important. 00:24:42.42\00:24:43.44 So as you discuss, reaffirm and express your love 00:24:43.45\00:24:46.62 for each other. 00:24:46.63\00:24:47.93 That's very helpful to the process. 00:24:47.94\00:24:49.97 Because you know, sometimes you could be very upset, 00:24:49.98\00:24:52.39 very mad about something and someone says to you, 00:24:52.40\00:24:54.50 "You know, despite these challenges that we're 00:24:54.51\00:24:57.31 going through, I still love you. 00:24:57.32\00:24:59.44 And I want you to know that there's no one else 00:24:59.45\00:25:03.17 outside of you, except you. 00:25:03.18\00:25:04.80 I don't' want to go anywhere else. 00:25:04.81\00:25:06.39 And so I want us to work it out. " 00:25:06.40\00:25:08.02 And that is like magic to the soul. 00:25:08.03\00:25:10.10 It makes you move towards the person 00:25:10.11\00:25:11.93 in working on a resolution. 00:25:11.94\00:25:13.71 Absolutely, but if there is somebody else, 00:25:13.72\00:25:16.22 if there is a third person in the relationship 00:25:16.23\00:25:18.83 and that's causing a problem, then you also need to 00:25:18.84\00:25:22.30 be able to say, "This needs to stop. " 00:25:22.31\00:25:25.04 "I expect that you will cut this relationship off. " 00:25:25.05\00:25:28.42 "This cannot continue. " "That is unacceptable. " Etc. 00:25:28.43\00:25:31.77 So the person clearly knows you are determined to stay married 00:25:31.78\00:25:36.04 and to be loyal and to be faithful. 00:25:36.05\00:25:38.01 And the converse is true to. 00:25:38.02\00:25:40.29 If you really love your spouse and you want the 00:25:40.30\00:25:43.14 marriage to work, you should also say, "I am willing to. " 00:25:43.15\00:25:46.36 You understand me? 00:25:46.37\00:25:47.41 It's a symbiotic relationship so I should be able to say, 00:25:47.42\00:25:50.65 "I am will to. " 00:25:50.66\00:25:52.01 Now if both of us have this conversation going and 00:25:52.02\00:25:55.47 we're just not getting any place and we can't seem to 00:25:55.48\00:25:57.70 help ourselves, then our recommendation is 00:25:57.71\00:26:00.34 get professional help. 00:26:00.35\00:26:01.46 It is important. 00:26:01.47\00:26:02.53 Get professional help. 00:26:02.54\00:26:04.41 Just like how you go see the dentist, see the cardiologist, 00:26:04.42\00:26:07.24 and what have you. 00:26:07.25\00:26:08.23 Your marriage is important. 00:26:08.24\00:26:10.15 Get professional help. 00:26:10.18\00:26:11.62 On top of that, as we're working through an issue, 00:26:11.63\00:26:15.45 couples must learn to start dating again. 00:26:15.46\00:26:18.68 You know some of the little things they use to do prior to, 00:26:18.69\00:26:21.53 they need to inject some spark into the relationship. 00:26:21.54\00:26:24.51 There are some relationships that have become lifeless. 00:26:24.52\00:26:27.22 It's like they're dead and they need to inject some spark. 00:26:27.23\00:26:29.96 What are some of the little things they can do to 00:26:29.99\00:26:31.90 inject spark into the relationship and spice it up? 00:26:31.91\00:26:34.91 As we said when we diagnose a problem, that some of the 00:26:34.92\00:26:38.24 issues are lack of sensitivity, lack of being responsive to the 00:26:38.25\00:26:42.36 need of the other and just a dryness to the relationship. 00:26:42.37\00:26:46.03 So if you're going to spark it up then you have to meet the 00:26:46.04\00:26:48.37 needs of the other person. 00:26:48.38\00:26:49.40 You have to be very touchy feely and be responsive 00:26:49.41\00:26:53.02 to the person's emotional needs, listen to them. 00:26:53.03\00:26:55.89 Is there anything you have ever done for your 00:26:55.90\00:26:57.65 husband to spice up? 00:26:57.66\00:26:58.75 Why doesn't my husband say if there was something? 00:26:59.18\00:27:02.48 Wouldn't that be a better way to say it? 00:27:02.49\00:27:04.40 One of the things I like that you do is that you put these 00:27:04.41\00:27:06.94 little love notes in my lunch box when I'm going to work 00:27:06.95\00:27:10.02 and I read it, "Oh honey, I love you. 00:27:10.03\00:27:11.61 Have a nice day. " 00:27:11.62\00:27:12.67 But I really appreciate that and I should let you know. 00:27:13.56\00:27:15.83 Thank you. 00:27:15.84\00:27:16.89 So yes, there are things that you should do to re-register 00:27:16.90\00:27:21.29 that I'm thinking about you, that I love you, 00:27:21.30\00:27:23.41 that you're the oxygen in my life. 00:27:23.42\00:27:25.37 And each other should share symbiotically. 00:27:25.38\00:27:28.17 And it is true that love covers a multitude of evil. 00:27:28.18\00:27:32.38 We have been talking about when your marriage 00:27:32.39\00:27:35.59 is in trouble. 00:27:35.60\00:27:36.59 We have shown you the problem and what to do. 00:27:36.60\00:27:39.23 We hope by God's grace you will do something 00:27:39.24\00:27:41.92 about your marriage. 00:27:41.93\00:27:43.03 Yes, again we will emphasize, put Jesus Christ at the heart 00:27:43.04\00:27:47.31 of your marital relationship. 00:27:47.32\00:27:48.89 We want you to be happy. 00:27:48.90\00:27:50.39 We want your children to be happy. 00:27:50.40\00:27:52.12 Remember, you must commit yourself to build 00:27:52.13\00:27:55.15 stronger families against all odds. 00:27:55.16\00:27:58.78 Trust in the Lord with all thine might. 00:27:58.79\00:28:00.94 He will bless you. 00:28:00.95\00:28:01.97 Thank you. 00:28:01.98\00:28:03.04