Welcome to Marriage In God's Hands. 00:00:30.13\00:00:33.30 I'm Alanzo Smith and this is my wife, June Smith. 00:00:33.33\00:00:37.23 And we want to talk to you about dealing with 00:00:37.26\00:00:40.76 difficult family members. 00:00:40.79\00:00:43.35 You know, we have a lot of issues with our family members. 00:00:43.85\00:00:50.60 And every family has problems. 00:00:50.63\00:00:53.24 But there are some individuals that are just difficult 00:00:53.27\00:00:57.05 to get along with. 00:00:57.08\00:00:58.09 Most people in families will identify someone 00:00:58.49\00:01:02.30 that they have to be guarded around. 00:01:02.33\00:01:04.46 Someone who they've probably made several attempts 00:01:04.49\00:01:07.96 to work together with but they just find it difficult. 00:01:07.99\00:01:12.35 So yes, it is really important for us to acknowledge 00:01:12.38\00:01:16.35 that sometimes the problem is really not with you; 00:01:16.38\00:01:19.18 it is with the difficult person. 00:01:19.21\00:01:21.49 So we could call them difficult people, 00:01:21.52\00:01:24.00 we could call them irrational people, 00:01:24.03\00:01:26.57 insensitive people, arrogant people. 00:01:26.60\00:01:29.81 Whatever we want to use to describe them, the fact is 00:01:29.84\00:01:32.89 they are just difficult to get along with. 00:01:32.92\00:01:35.80 And they make life unhappy, they make life miserable. 00:01:35.83\00:01:39.71 And sometimes it even affects your spiritual relationship. 00:01:39.74\00:01:43.34 Now is this just one type of person that we're talking about? 00:01:43.54\00:01:47.58 It's always this individual? 00:01:47.61\00:01:49.32 Or do we have a picture of different individuals? 00:01:49.35\00:01:53.24 A difficult person could be anyone. 00:01:53.27\00:01:55.24 It might be your own spouse. 00:01:55.27\00:01:56.71 It might be your own child. 00:01:56.74\00:01:58.62 It could even be an in-law, a neighbor, a co-worker. 00:01:59.30\00:02:04.43 Just people in general who find it real difficult 00:02:04.46\00:02:09.53 to get along with everyone. 00:02:09.56\00:02:11.38 Let's share with our listeners some of the things that we find 00:02:11.78\00:02:18.76 in these people that we are talking about. 00:02:18.79\00:02:21.01 One of them I would classify as backstabbing. 00:02:21.04\00:02:24.56 Backstabbing seems to go along in a lot of families. 00:02:24.59\00:02:28.49 Usually what tends to happen is when people are 00:02:28.52\00:02:31.53 what we call cowards. 00:02:31.56\00:02:33.25 There is something that is upsetting or frustrating 00:02:33.28\00:02:36.02 in the relationship, but rather than confront you and say, 00:02:36.05\00:02:39.00 "You know, this is what happens when you do this," 00:02:39.01\00:02:41.39 they would rather hurt you behind your back by saying 00:02:41.42\00:02:44.69 mean things about you. 00:02:44.72\00:02:46.34 So a backstabber is an individual who 00:02:46.37\00:02:50.14 in your presence they are okay, they are nice, 00:02:50.17\00:02:54.77 they are cordial, they talk with you. 00:02:54.78\00:02:57.88 But when your back is turned, as the name suggests, 00:02:57.91\00:03:01.52 that's when they get at you. 00:03:01.55\00:03:03.48 And sometimes it's just plain jealousy. 00:03:03.51\00:03:06.39 So that they envy your accomplishments or your 00:03:07.76\00:03:12.41 relationship with your child or with your spouse. 00:03:12.44\00:03:15.27 And they do everything to hurt you behind the scene. 00:03:15.30\00:03:19.06 Wouldn't you say backstabbing has some close correlation with 00:03:19.09\00:03:24.15 undermining, someone who undermines you? 00:03:24.18\00:03:26.61 We could almost call them cousins. 00:03:26.64\00:03:28.33 You know, when you undermine an individual, you real goal is 00:03:28.36\00:03:32.23 you present a cordial front and so you allow the person to think 00:03:32.26\00:03:36.94 that you are with them, but then behind the scenes 00:03:36.97\00:03:39.93 or sometimes even in front of them, they sabotage you. 00:03:39.94\00:03:43.57 They try to, you know it's almost like they want to be 00:03:43.60\00:03:46.13 politically correct but they don't follow through on what 00:03:46.16\00:03:48.92 they're committed to do to either make the relationship 00:03:48.95\00:03:51.33 work or to promote your interest. 00:03:51.36\00:03:53.69 So someone who is undermining you is an individual who could, 00:03:53.89\00:03:58.52 in front of you, are with you. 00:03:58.55\00:04:01.46 You're planning a program and they seem to suggest that 00:04:01.49\00:04:05.24 they're giving support, they're with you in this program, 00:04:05.27\00:04:07.94 their ideas, they go along with it. 00:04:07.97\00:04:10.59 And you have the feeling now that, okay, 00:04:10.62\00:04:12.90 this person is with me, but as soon as your back is turned 00:04:12.93\00:04:16.13 or when they're not in your presence they would tear 00:04:16.16\00:04:18.65 the program down, they would criticize it, 00:04:18.68\00:04:20.28 they would destroy it. 00:04:20.32\00:04:21.32 That's an underminer. 00:04:21.35\00:04:23.33 And sometimes they do it directly in front of you. 00:04:23.36\00:04:25.68 They will undermine what you're trying to promote 00:04:25.71\00:04:29.21 or what you're trying to accomplish in your family 00:04:29.24\00:04:31.68 or they just don't cooperate in the relationship with you. 00:04:31.71\00:04:36.68 An instigator, an individual who tries to stir up trouble; 00:04:37.81\00:04:45.52 an instigator. 00:04:45.55\00:04:47.00 And you have these in families. 00:04:47.03\00:04:48.65 Not just families, but in the church and in every level 00:04:48.68\00:04:52.70 and other areas of society. 00:04:52.73\00:04:54.13 But an instigator is an individual who just 00:04:54.14\00:04:56.91 tries to find things to create problems in the relationship. 00:04:56.94\00:05:02.18 It is said that misery likes company. 00:05:02.21\00:05:05.08 And sometimes what instigators do is they form alliances. 00:05:05.11\00:05:08.89 They find somebody else in the family who they 00:05:08.90\00:05:12.26 can be agreeable with and they form a team. 00:05:12.29\00:05:15.66 But your goal is to cause problems in the family. 00:05:15.69\00:05:19.66 And so the slightest thing that is said that could be hurtful, 00:05:19.67\00:05:22.95 whereas other family members might overlook it 00:05:22.98\00:05:25.63 or even forgive it, the instigator will try to 00:05:25.66\00:05:28.43 show why this is a problem and why this should be said 00:05:28.46\00:05:31.72 and why you need to be upset. 00:05:31.75\00:05:33.38 How could you leave this alone. 00:05:33.41\00:05:35.80 You know, they agitate. They agitate. 00:05:35.83\00:05:38.69 It's like they're not satisfied until... 00:05:38.72\00:05:41.05 In their mind, they say justice is done. 00:05:41.08\00:05:43.26 But it's not necessarily justice they're after, 00:05:43.29\00:05:45.32 it's just their personality. 00:05:45.35\00:05:46.86 They're kind of a narcissistic personality, if you will. 00:05:46.87\00:05:50.73 It's almost that they thrive in conflicts 00:05:50.76\00:05:53.20 except that there is drama. 00:05:53.23\00:05:56.08 That's what you would say. 00:05:56.11\00:05:57.09 Going back to your verse, misery likes company. 00:05:57.12\00:05:59.12 They just don't seem to be comfortable when things 00:05:59.15\00:06:03.82 are happy at harmonious. 00:06:03.85\00:06:05.59 And when you look into extended families, 00:06:05.62\00:06:09.12 sometimes you find that people don't like their in-laws 00:06:09.15\00:06:14.77 because they see their in-laws as an instigator; 00:06:14.80\00:06:17.93 always stirring up trouble, always bringing up something. 00:06:17.96\00:06:21.61 And I'm sure you listening to me there, you're saying, "Uh-huh. 00:06:21.64\00:06:26.27 I can identify with this. 00:06:26.30\00:06:28.31 I know this particular individual who 00:06:28.34\00:06:31.05 they just seem to be in the mix of things. " 00:06:31.08\00:06:33.07 If there's a problem, you can trace it back to this individual 00:06:33.10\00:06:36.52 who started it or did something to create that problem. 00:06:36.55\00:06:39.55 And usually it's not necessarily the in-laws fault. 00:06:39.58\00:06:42.41 It is usually the instigator's fault because they look for 00:06:42.44\00:06:46.53 reasons and things to justify their own emotional state. 00:06:46.56\00:06:51.65 And so they will be picky and they pick at every thing 00:06:51.68\00:06:54.65 that could create a problem in the relationship. 00:06:54.66\00:06:56.90 We have another type of difficult person to 00:06:56.93\00:07:01.64 get along with and we describe these as the snake in the grass. 00:07:01.67\00:07:06.07 The snake in the grass are the individuals who, 00:07:06.10\00:07:12.21 they hide and wait for their opportune moment 00:07:12.24\00:07:17.88 to strike at you. 00:07:17.91\00:07:19.33 I remember this story about an Indian Chief who 00:07:19.36\00:07:23.15 was hunting on top of a mountain. 00:07:23.18\00:07:25.34 And just as he was about to descend, he saw a rattlesnake. 00:07:25.37\00:07:28.79 And the rattlesnake said to him, "Indian chief, 00:07:28.82\00:07:31.78 could you please take me to the foot of the mountain? 00:07:31.81\00:07:33.98 I need to get there because I must be there 00:07:34.01\00:07:38.37 before the sun sets. " 00:07:38.40\00:07:39.58 The Indian Chief said, "No, I won't do that. 00:07:39.61\00:07:42.16 I know who you are and if I pick you up, 00:07:42.19\00:07:44.06 you're going to bite me. " 00:07:44.09\00:07:45.14 And he said, "No I would not do that. 00:07:45.15\00:07:46.81 Please, I need to get down. " 00:07:46.82\00:07:48.13 So the Indian Chief succumbed to the pressure and picked up 00:07:48.16\00:07:53.10 the rattlesnake, put it in his coat pocket, and 00:07:53.13\00:07:55.59 headed down to the foot of the mountain. 00:07:55.62\00:07:57.75 When he got there, he took the snake out, put it in the grass. 00:07:57.78\00:08:01.57 And just as he walked away, the snake turned and 00:08:01.60\00:08:04.40 pounced on him and bit him. 00:08:04.43\00:08:06.54 And he cried out, he said, "You promised, you promised. " 00:08:06.57\00:08:09.41 And the snake, as it slithered away in the grass said, 00:08:09.44\00:08:12.01 "You knew who I was before you picked me up. " 00:08:12.04\00:08:15.09 That's the behavior of a snake in the grass. 00:08:15.10\00:08:18.01 It's unfortunate when we have to encounter these 00:08:18.04\00:08:21.85 characters in our own families. 00:08:21.86\00:08:24.59 But they do exist. 00:08:24.62\00:08:25.83 People who look for opportune moments to hurt you. 00:08:25.84\00:08:29.69 And the idea is that they're unhappy themselves 00:08:29.72\00:08:35.06 and so they pass it on. 00:08:35.09\00:08:36.57 Do you know what I notice in this category of people, 00:08:36.60\00:08:40.36 difficult people that we're talking about? 00:08:40.39\00:08:42.10 They have a long memory. 00:08:42.50\00:08:44.94 They can remember things from what was done to them 00:08:44.97\00:08:48.55 or who it was done with, they have details. 00:08:48.58\00:08:51.04 And these individuals are not ready to forgive. 00:08:51.07\00:08:53.91 Do you notice that too? 00:08:53.92\00:08:55.19 Unfortunately, usually these are people who are 00:08:55.22\00:08:58.33 usually wounded, we call them. 00:08:58.36\00:09:00.14 And so they end up hurting others. 00:09:00.17\00:09:02.50 So we're talking about backstabbers, 00:09:02.51\00:09:06.12 we're talking about underminers, 00:09:06.15\00:09:08.36 we're talking about difficult people, instigators, 00:09:08.39\00:09:12.12 and we have mentioned the snake in the grass. 00:09:12.15\00:09:15.61 But there's another category of difficult people that 00:09:15.64\00:09:18.70 we should mention. 00:09:18.73\00:09:20.19 And that is the snitchers. 00:09:20.22\00:09:22.13 Snitchers are people who, as it suggests, snitch. 00:09:22.16\00:09:25.96 They don't keep secrets, they don't keep confidence. 00:09:25.99\00:09:29.86 And so what tends to happen is that they tell everything 00:09:29.89\00:09:33.31 that happens in the family. 00:09:33.34\00:09:34.36 Now there's some things in the family that happens 00:09:34.39\00:09:36.11 that are private. 00:09:36.14\00:09:37.12 And you really don't want to, you know, there are limits 00:09:37.15\00:09:39.01 and boundaries within your family. 00:09:39.04\00:09:40.40 And some things you don't say outside of what 00:09:40.43\00:09:42.78 the family boundaries are. 00:09:42.81\00:09:44.32 But snitchers are people who will gossip and will say 00:09:44.35\00:09:47.05 everything that happens. 00:09:47.08\00:09:48.05 And they just can't keep the confidence of family members. 00:09:48.08\00:09:50.86 I often share this Chinese proverb that I've heard. 00:09:51.16\00:09:55.76 It goes like this. 00:09:55.79\00:09:57.56 "He who listens to gossip is just as guilty 00:09:57.59\00:10:02.72 as the one who tells it. 00:10:02.75\00:10:04.54 Both should be hanged. 00:10:04.57\00:10:06.58 One by the ear and the other by the tongue. " 00:10:06.61\00:10:09.66 Now obviously, the first thing we want to back away 00:10:09.69\00:10:12.79 from; the notion. 00:10:12.82\00:10:13.93 We're not here describing physical abuse, I mean 00:10:13.96\00:10:16.66 subscribing to physical abuse or violence in any form. 00:10:16.69\00:10:20.60 But just the notion of what the proverb is saying... 00:10:20.63\00:10:23.28 Both are guilty. Yes. 00:10:23.31\00:10:25.61 Snitchers, they have their fault but they seem to have 00:10:25.64\00:10:30.13 an ear, an audience, somebody who is willing to listen. 00:10:30.16\00:10:34.18 Now my question to you, June, is; 00:10:34.27\00:10:36.36 Is there a difference between the one who likes to 00:10:36.39\00:10:39.31 tell the tale and the one who likes to listen to the tale? 00:10:39.32\00:10:42.64 I would say not really because if you're going to tell a tale 00:10:42.65\00:10:46.08 and you have no one to listen, you'll probably 00:10:46.11\00:10:47.63 stop telling the tale. 00:10:47.66\00:10:48.90 But if you have people to receive the gossip, 00:10:48.93\00:10:50.67 then you're likely to continue the behavior. 00:10:50.70\00:10:53.30 So both people need to desist from that behavior. 00:10:53.33\00:10:56.37 And the unfortunate thing is that sometimes what the person 00:10:56.40\00:11:01.22 is talking about is not the truth. 00:11:01.23\00:11:04.27 Or sometimes they don't get the full story. 00:11:04.30\00:11:06.62 They just hear something and rather than checking out 00:11:06.63\00:11:09.65 to see if the story is true, they run with it, 00:11:09.68\00:11:11.91 they're willing to tell. 00:11:11.94\00:11:13.08 Unfortunately, some of you listening to me are like that. 00:11:13.11\00:11:16.39 You share information without justifying the truthfulness 00:11:16.42\00:11:21.38 of it, the veracity of the story. 00:11:21.41\00:11:23.34 You only want to hear something and you don't check it out 00:11:23.37\00:11:26.80 and you're willing to spread it. 00:11:26.83\00:11:28.36 It is unfortunate and sad, but it is so true that 00:11:28.39\00:11:32.32 some people, if they hear good news, they don't share it. 00:11:32.35\00:11:36.94 If they hear bad news, they run with it. 00:11:36.97\00:11:40.23 Well as they often say, good news doesn't sell the paper. 00:11:40.26\00:11:43.23 So I think the same thing is true in families. 00:11:43.26\00:11:46.10 Rarely do you hear somebody calling and saying, 00:11:46.13\00:11:48.79 oh you know, this great thing happened. 00:11:48.82\00:11:50.87 It's usually, did you hear that so and so is 00:11:50.90\00:11:54.35 doing something wrong. 00:11:54.55\00:11:55.66 Unfortunately, it's a sin problem. 00:11:55.69\00:11:57.48 Here's another category. 00:11:57.51\00:11:58.92 Fanatics. 00:11:58.95\00:12:00.49 Now fanatics are difficult people to get along with. 00:12:00.52\00:12:05.69 Why is this so? 00:12:05.70\00:12:07.26 Because they're rigid in their thinking. 00:12:07.29\00:12:09.27 They're usually people who are stubborn and people who 00:12:09.30\00:12:12.81 see things in black and white. 00:12:12.84\00:12:15.13 There's no gray area. There's no compromise. 00:12:15.16\00:12:17.76 You either do it this way or it shouldn't be done. 00:12:17.79\00:12:20.97 And they make it real difficult to adapt and to be flexible 00:12:21.00\00:12:24.87 and to adjust. 00:12:24.97\00:12:26.35 So the Pharisees in Jesus' time would be a classic example 00:12:26.96\00:12:33.41 for this category of individuals. 00:12:33.44\00:12:36.80 The Sadducees, these are individuals who the way 00:12:36.83\00:12:40.72 they think and they way they perceive things... 00:12:40.75\00:12:43.00 And each one, mark you, each person has a 00:12:43.03\00:12:46.00 right to their thinking. 00:12:46.03\00:12:47.19 But what we're saying is that you should not impose 00:12:47.22\00:12:49.83 this upon someone. 00:12:49.86\00:12:50.90 So the way I see the world and the way I view the world, 00:12:50.93\00:12:54.20 I should not expect people to see through my lens. 00:12:54.21\00:12:57.38 And fanatics are like that. 00:12:57.41\00:12:59.40 If you don't see things the way they see it and perceive it 00:12:59.43\00:13:02.45 the way they perceive it, they become offended 00:13:02.48\00:13:05.04 and would make life miserable and difficult for you. 00:13:05.07\00:13:08.33 That's why we categorize them as difficult people. 00:13:08.36\00:13:11.05 Well we have been talking about difficult people 00:13:11.76\00:13:14.36 and we have a lot more to share with you. 00:13:14.39\00:13:16.17 As a matter of fact, what do you do with these individuals? 00:13:16.20\00:13:19.10 How do you live with them? 00:13:19.13\00:13:20.23 They're your family members, you can't discard them. 00:13:20.26\00:13:22.61 They are there. What do you do? 00:13:22.64\00:13:24.38 That's what we want to talk about when we come back. 00:13:24.41\00:13:26.83 So stay where you are, be with us. 00:13:26.86\00:13:28.88 We're going to talk about some interesting things. 00:13:28.91\00:13:31.14 There are many How To books available 00:13:37.84\00:13:39.86 but there's one that's free and perfect for every couple. 00:13:39.89\00:13:43.13 How You Can Build A Better Marriage. 00:13:43.14\00:13:45.52 Bible-based matrimonial advice is given in a light-hearted 00:13:45.55\00:13:49.62 easy to read manner for those contemplating marriage, 00:13:49.65\00:13:52.37 newlyweds, couples in their golden years, 00:13:52.38\00:13:55.23 and everyone in between. 00:13:55.26\00:13:56.86 Simply call or write for your free copy. 00:13:56.87\00:13:59.35 Welcome back to Marriage In God's Hands. 00:14:10.22\00:14:13.43 We've been talking about difficult people. 00:14:13.46\00:14:16.48 And we looked at some of the ways in which they manifest. 00:14:16.51\00:14:19.82 We talked about backstabbers, and snitchers, and instigators. 00:14:19.85\00:14:24.41 And snake in the grass, and underminers, and all of these. 00:14:24.44\00:14:29.56 But it's one thing to highlight the difficult people, but 00:14:29.59\00:14:33.24 the question is what do you do with them. 00:14:33.27\00:14:36.17 And so what we want to look at is what we call 00:14:36.20\00:14:39.09 a Biblical approach. 00:14:39.12\00:14:40.49 We want to look at the Matthew 18 principle 00:14:40.52\00:14:43.77 because Matthew has given us some good steps to take 00:14:43.80\00:14:47.43 when trying to resolve a conflict or trying to work 00:14:47.46\00:14:51.31 with a difficult person. 00:14:51.34\00:14:52.49 The first thing that Matthew says is that we should 00:14:52.50\00:14:56.02 go directly to the individual and we should talk 00:14:56.05\00:14:59.83 with them, confront them. 00:14:59.86\00:15:01.13 Share with us this process, the benefit of going to the 00:15:01.16\00:15:06.80 individual one to one and trying to talk to them. 00:15:06.83\00:15:10.39 One of the things that we're trying to do when we do that 00:15:10.42\00:15:12.59 is to allow the person to understand that we're aware 00:15:12.62\00:15:17.05 of how their behavior is impacting the relationship 00:15:17.08\00:15:20.60 whether it is the marriage or the family dynamics in general. 00:15:20.63\00:15:23.95 Most people, or sometimes people tend to stay away from 00:15:23.98\00:15:28.15 talking about it and they just act upset or they withdraw 00:15:28.18\00:15:31.68 from the family circle. 00:15:31.71\00:15:33.41 But we are suggesting that we want to retain more families 00:15:33.44\00:15:37.09 and we want to keep the circle unbroken. 00:15:37.12\00:15:38.93 So when there's a difficult person that's creating 00:15:38.96\00:15:41.09 dissidence in the relationship, we want to confront it. 00:15:41.12\00:15:43.82 By confronting, should we go to them and we should... 00:15:44.27\00:15:49.51 What should be our attitude, what should be our posture? 00:15:49.54\00:15:52.12 How should we confront? 00:15:52.15\00:15:53.23 Because some people, by confronting, 00:15:53.26\00:15:55.52 may create a larger problem. 00:15:55.55\00:15:58.35 We don't want to escalate the problem, for sure. 00:15:58.36\00:16:00.78 But we do want to be non-threatening. 00:16:00.81\00:16:04.30 So the first thing I would suggest is that you say, 00:16:04.33\00:16:07.34 "Look, we've been having some problems in this relationship. 00:16:07.37\00:16:10.57 And I am interested in restoring harmony. 00:16:10.58\00:16:14.33 So I'd like to talk to you about how you're impacting me 00:16:14.36\00:16:17.74 or how your behavior is impacting the relationship. " 00:16:17.77\00:16:21.26 So the person doesn't feel attacked or need to defend. 00:16:21.29\00:16:25.35 So we shouldn't criticize and we should be very open 00:16:25.38\00:16:30.10 and we should be frank. 00:16:30.13\00:16:31.89 And it is hoped that by doing this in a most spiritual and 00:16:31.92\00:16:35.86 Godly way, this would help to resolve the problem 00:16:35.89\00:16:38.74 or help the difficult person to understand what he or she 00:16:38.77\00:16:41.79 is doing that is creating this dysfunctionality 00:16:41.82\00:16:44.69 in the marital family. 00:16:44.70\00:16:47.45 Unfortunately, you might go with a very calm approach 00:16:48.29\00:16:51.54 and you might be very willing to resolve the problem, 00:16:51.57\00:16:54.40 but the other person may not be necessarily 00:16:54.43\00:16:55.91 prepared to do that. 00:16:55.94\00:16:57.30 So what do you do? 00:16:57.33\00:16:58.55 Well, Matthew gives us the second step. 00:16:58.58\00:17:00.56 Matthew says that we should take two or three other persons 00:17:00.59\00:17:04.95 with us like witnesses to be there so as we talk with the 00:17:04.98\00:17:09.74 individual, we have some folks there. 00:17:09.77\00:17:11.94 Now the question I ask myself is why do we need to do this. 00:17:11.97\00:17:15.62 What's the redeem of the value? 00:17:15.65\00:17:19.38 I went one to one and I talked, I expressed myself, 00:17:19.41\00:17:23.08 I tried to be kind, I tried to be as Christ-like as 00:17:23.11\00:17:26.88 I could and the person wouldn't listen. 00:17:26.91\00:17:28.18 What's the point of taking two or three? 00:17:28.21\00:17:30.50 I think that sometimes it could be that, 00:17:31.18\00:17:33.50 one, you're making sure that you have a witness to the situation 00:17:33.53\00:17:37.40 and to the scenario so you couldn't be charged of 00:17:37.43\00:17:40.28 violating the person's boundaries or so. 00:17:40.31\00:17:43.98 But I also think that it allows for objectivity. 00:17:44.01\00:17:47.71 Because sometimes your perception might be off as well. 00:17:47.74\00:17:50.50 Even though you're dealing with a difficult person, 00:17:50.53\00:17:52.37 maybe the way you're perceiving the person 00:17:52.40\00:17:54.50 is your own view of how the person is interpreted. 00:17:54.53\00:17:57.98 So you're saying that it is possible that the response 00:17:58.01\00:18:01.71 the person gave me was quite an appropriate response. 00:18:01.74\00:18:05.04 But I just didn't take it the right way. 00:18:05.07\00:18:08.01 I didn't have the right approach. 00:18:08.04\00:18:09.58 And so someone standing there could say, 00:18:09.61\00:18:12.31 "Well you know, Alanzo, what they said was correct. 00:18:12.34\00:18:16.53 The way they responded was okay and maybe you need to 00:18:16.56\00:18:18.81 reexamine yourself. " 00:18:18.82\00:18:20.14 And that's important. 00:18:20.17\00:18:21.62 So that's what they can do. 00:18:21.65\00:18:23.06 So we break the big defenses down. 00:18:23.09\00:18:25.08 And having an objective person there to listen to both sides 00:18:25.11\00:18:29.39 of the story or of the situation is in a position to say, 00:18:29.42\00:18:32.90 "Okay, this is what I'm hearing. 00:18:32.93\00:18:34.85 This is what you said, this is what's going on. 00:18:34.88\00:18:37.18 Now what do you both want to do about it?" 00:18:37.21\00:18:40.10 Rather than having the person who you perceive as doing 00:18:40.13\00:18:43.61 something to you or to the relationship be on the defense. 00:18:43.64\00:18:47.24 So it creates the room for a healthier discussion. 00:18:47.27\00:18:51.65 Isn't that what we call triangulation? 00:18:51.68\00:18:53.89 Triangulating a problem when there's a conflict between you 00:18:53.92\00:18:57.85 and another individual. 00:18:57.88\00:18:59.29 Sometimes it's best to bring a third party, 00:18:59.32\00:19:02.82 an independent party. 00:19:02.85\00:19:03.94 Someone that you both respect and someone who will be 00:19:03.97\00:19:07.38 objective and won't take sides, won't be a bias person. 00:19:07.41\00:19:10.50 By bringing this third person in, it can help to bring about 00:19:10.53\00:19:15.47 a resolution. 00:19:15.50\00:19:16.57 And I think that's the goal. 00:19:16.60\00:19:18.25 The goal is when there's a challenge in the relationship 00:19:18.28\00:19:21.47 and you perceive that this is stemming from or contributed 00:19:21.50\00:19:26.59 by the behavior of a person who you perceive to be difficult 00:19:26.62\00:19:30.65 to get along with, that the goal is not so much to 00:19:30.68\00:19:33.29 embarrass, criticize, or confront this person 00:19:33.30\00:19:36.82 for your own, you know, to strike back at the person. 00:19:36.85\00:19:42.08 But that the goal is to resolve the conflict in the family. 00:19:42.11\00:19:45.50 And you know, June, as you said that 00:19:45.53\00:19:48.79 I can't help but ask myself a question. 00:19:48.82\00:19:53.09 What if? 00:19:53.12\00:19:54.17 What if you have gone through step one and the 00:19:54.20\00:19:57.88 person did not change, it didn't help? 00:19:57.91\00:20:01.47 You went through step two and still the problem is there. 00:20:01.50\00:20:05.97 Matthew is giving us a third step. 00:20:06.00\00:20:08.49 Matthew is saying, well take it to the church. 00:20:08.52\00:20:11.52 And in this situation, Matthew is looking at a Christian family 00:20:11.55\00:20:15.27 committed and connected to a church. 00:20:15.30\00:20:17.43 Take it to the church and present the 00:20:17.46\00:20:19.90 matter to the church. 00:20:19.93\00:20:20.94 But Matthew says if they won't hear the church 00:20:20.97\00:20:23.84 then, you know, let them go. 00:20:23.87\00:20:25.73 They are cast away. 00:20:25.76\00:20:26.89 Now my question to you is, not all your family members 00:20:27.17\00:20:31.52 are religious and so you might not be able to take the 00:20:31.55\00:20:34.67 Matthew 18 principle to the third step. 00:20:34.70\00:20:38.16 Now, where do you go from here? 00:20:38.19\00:20:40.94 You try step one, you try step two, and nothing happens. 00:20:40.97\00:20:44.43 Where do you go from there? 00:20:44.46\00:20:46.22 I think even with the person in the family who is religious 00:20:46.43\00:20:50.29 that they may not necessarily adapt to the approach of 00:20:50.32\00:20:53.87 confronting them through the Matthew approach. 00:20:53.90\00:20:56.21 So I think one way that we might do it is directly, 00:20:56.22\00:21:01.05 practically addressing the concept of resolution 00:21:01.08\00:21:05.55 with the person underscoring that there is a problem 00:21:05.59\00:21:08.63 in our family and we need to work it through. 00:21:08.66\00:21:11.16 And so what I'm proposing is that you 00:21:11.19\00:21:13.92 start with "I" messages. 00:21:13.95\00:21:15.82 You say something like, "I need to resolve the conflict that I'm 00:21:15.83\00:21:22.05 experiencing, that I perceive as a result of your behavior. 00:21:22.08\00:21:26.49 And so I would like to talk about how 00:21:26.52\00:21:28.64 that is impacting me. " 00:21:28.67\00:21:29.81 "I get frustrated when you leave your shoe at the door 00:21:29.84\00:21:35.07 or when you tell my sister what I told you. " 00:21:35.10\00:21:37.77 I was just going to ask you to give me a practical example. 00:21:37.80\00:21:41.07 Let's say, let's personalize it here now. 00:21:41.10\00:21:43.96 And I'm not calling myself a difficult person. 00:21:43.99\00:21:47.14 Nor are you. 00:21:47.17\00:21:49.06 But let's say the conflict is with us. 00:21:49.09\00:21:51.56 How do you use "I" statements that I can hear you 00:21:51.59\00:21:56.99 and understand you, and at the same time don't feel 00:21:57.02\00:21:58.99 offended that you're attacking me? 00:21:59.02\00:22:00.78 My goal is, again, to underscore that I'm trying to resolve this. 00:22:00.81\00:22:05.08 So I would say, "Alanzo, I need to speak with you 00:22:05.11\00:22:09.10 about what I am feeling as a result of the way I 00:22:09.13\00:22:15.67 perceive your behavior. " 00:22:15.70\00:22:17.19 So you're not attacking me and you're not labeling me. 00:22:17.22\00:22:21.66 But at the same time, you're stating your frustration 00:22:21.69\00:22:25.73 and what the problem is. 00:22:25.76\00:22:27.30 So I'm saying, I feel frustrated. 00:22:27.33\00:22:29.66 I am in need of talking about this. 00:22:29.69\00:22:32.84 So I'm giving you an in, I'm inviting you in 00:22:32.87\00:22:35.79 to work with me on feeling better about what's going on. 00:22:35.82\00:22:39.64 So when dealing with difficult people, we should bring our 00:22:40.45\00:22:44.77 best self to the conversation and the discussion. 00:22:44.80\00:22:48.72 Do not allow a difficult person to take you downhill. 00:22:48.73\00:22:52.12 Don't go there with them. 00:22:52.15\00:22:53.42 Be at your best. 00:22:53.45\00:22:55.41 Know your principles, know what you're about, 00:22:55.44\00:22:58.15 and stand for those high values. 00:22:58.18\00:23:01.38 So the goal is to address the conflict, to address 00:23:01.41\00:23:05.00 the problem, the issue, not the person. 00:23:05.01\00:23:07.86 Now be aware that the difficult person is on guard 00:23:07.89\00:23:11.43 ready to strike. 00:23:11.46\00:23:13.57 So when you go toward them or attempt to confront them, 00:23:13.60\00:23:17.64 you have to be as gentle and as Christ-centered as possible. 00:23:17.67\00:23:23.47 So we cannot attempt to do this then without the presence of 00:23:23.50\00:23:28.62 the Holy Spirit in our heart and in our lives. 00:23:28.65\00:23:31.60 People are difficult and it's not easy to work with them 00:23:31.63\00:23:34.76 and to relate with them. 00:23:34.79\00:23:35.82 Now there must be some reasons though why people 00:23:35.85\00:23:40.07 get to this state. 00:23:40.10\00:23:41.20 There must be some reason why individuals, 00:23:41.23\00:23:43.33 you always have them. 00:23:43.36\00:23:44.79 It's not like they're not there. 00:23:44.82\00:23:46.23 They're ever present. 00:23:46.26\00:23:47.35 Why is this so? 00:23:47.38\00:23:48.70 There are a variety of reasons. 00:23:48.73\00:23:50.46 People are flawed. 00:23:50.49\00:23:52.91 We're all flawed. 00:23:52.94\00:23:54.28 People walk around with wounds. 00:23:54.31\00:23:56.37 So people get their wounds healed and carry their scars. 00:23:56.40\00:23:59.54 Others have the wounds that are hurting. 00:23:59.57\00:24:01.84 And when a person is hurting, they again seek to make 00:24:01.87\00:24:06.88 life uncomfortable for themselves 00:24:06.91\00:24:09.17 as well as for others. 00:24:09.20\00:24:10.22 One reason why these people end up being so hard to 00:24:10.25\00:24:13.88 get along with is they want attention. 00:24:13.91\00:24:16.77 And they will get it at any cost. 00:24:17.20\00:24:19.97 It doesn't matter who is hurting as a result. 00:24:20.00\00:24:22.75 Unfortunately. 00:24:22.79\00:24:23.94 Another reason is they have very little power 00:24:23.97\00:24:26.35 in the relationship. 00:24:26.38\00:24:27.55 And so they feel threatened, may times. 00:24:27.58\00:24:29.86 And so they will compete with the other member in the family 00:24:29.87\00:24:33.98 to get that power. 00:24:33.99\00:24:35.63 Or it could be that they feel inadequate. 00:24:35.66\00:24:38.67 They have a poor concept of themselves 00:24:38.68\00:24:41.31 and they will again make life extremely difficult 00:24:41.34\00:24:45.73 because they feel so inadequate. 00:24:45.76\00:24:47.85 But when a person is hurting and they want attention 00:24:47.86\00:24:50.74 and they're probably not getting it the way they want, 00:24:50.77\00:24:52.50 or they don't have the power they would like, 00:24:52.53\00:24:54.71 if they feel inadequate, they sometimes seek to revenge. 00:24:54.72\00:24:58.49 And they do that by hurting you or hurting others. 00:24:58.52\00:25:02.38 So actually what we are receiving now is the 00:25:02.41\00:25:06.26 revengeful part of their life. 00:25:06.29\00:25:09.36 They have gone through their pain, they've gone through 00:25:09.39\00:25:12.84 their hurt, and so their taking it out. 00:25:12.87\00:25:15.27 And do you know that sometimes they don't 00:25:15.28\00:25:17.79 quite understand that? 00:25:17.82\00:25:18.98 Sometimes these wounds are coming from childhood. 00:25:19.01\00:25:21.20 Now they're married and they have their own children. 00:25:21.23\00:25:23.36 And they have these emotions that are emitted that they don't 00:25:23.39\00:25:27.22 understand where it's coming from. 00:25:27.25\00:25:28.69 They may have been rejected, they could have been abused, 00:25:28.72\00:25:31.60 and so much could have happened to them. 00:25:31.63\00:25:33.41 And so now they're in a relationship and it 00:25:33.44\00:25:35.86 comes right out and is displaced on all these innocent 00:25:35.89\00:25:38.86 people in their family. 00:25:38.89\00:25:40.08 And it's not just the family that suffers. 00:25:40.09\00:25:42.40 Society suffers too because sometimes you see 00:25:42.43\00:25:45.41 people taking out their anger and taking out their rage 00:25:45.44\00:25:48.90 and their unfulfilled dreams and unmet dreams on society, 00:25:48.93\00:25:52.22 society at large. 00:25:52.25\00:25:53.24 So we are all at risk when we have these difficult people 00:25:53.27\00:25:56.30 and they're not helped. 00:25:56.31\00:25:58.60 Now we also should mention that you should not be afraid to 00:25:58.63\00:26:04.12 unmask a difficult person because sometimes they are 00:26:04.15\00:26:06.67 doing what they're doing under the cloak. 00:26:06.70\00:26:09.15 Sometimes they are hiding and they want to keep 00:26:09.18\00:26:11.29 in the background, but at the same time they're hurting. 00:26:11.32\00:26:14.21 But we should expose it. 00:26:14.24\00:26:15.47 Meaning we should confront it. Yes. 00:26:15.50\00:26:18.50 We should say, "Look, this is how I am perceiving 00:26:18.54\00:26:21.42 your behavior and I wonder if you're even aware of it. " 00:26:21.45\00:26:24.62 And if the person is aware of it, then you want to say, 00:26:24.65\00:26:27.29 "I need this to stop because we're in a relationship, 00:26:27.32\00:26:31.04 we want to live in harmony, and this behavior 00:26:31.07\00:26:35.00 is not acceptable. " 00:26:35.03\00:26:36.64 We all have had our difficulties. 00:26:37.07\00:26:40.55 For some of you, it's childhood difficulty. 00:26:40.56\00:26:44.28 For others, it's when you were growing up as a teenager 00:26:44.31\00:26:48.20 or at some point along the journey. 00:26:48.23\00:26:50.58 We have been hurt, we have war wounds. 00:26:50.61\00:26:53.00 And sometimes it renders us difficult. 00:26:53.01\00:26:56.72 We make life impossible for others. 00:26:56.75\00:26:59.39 We make people's marriages unhappy 00:26:59.42\00:27:02.39 and individual lives unhappy. 00:27:02.42\00:27:04.48 And it would be very good if you could take at this moment 00:27:04.51\00:27:08.28 an introspective look at yourself and ask yourself 00:27:08.31\00:27:11.79 "What am I doing to make someone else uncomfortable?" 00:27:11.82\00:27:15.90 Or better yet, "How can I change myself to be a better me, 00:27:15.93\00:27:21.29 to be a better person?" 00:27:21.32\00:27:22.66 And the answer lies in a relationship with Jesus Christ. 00:27:22.69\00:27:27.27 If you have been hurt, take it to the Lord in prayer. 00:27:27.30\00:27:30.62 And if you are hurting someone, you should also go to God and 00:27:30.65\00:27:34.90 ask Him for strength that you will be a better person. 00:27:34.93\00:27:39.10 We're living in a difficult world. 00:27:39.13\00:27:41.19 We see marriages are being destroyed every day. 00:27:41.22\00:27:44.25 And you should not contribute to the destruction of 00:27:44.28\00:27:47.75 an individual or an individual's marriage. 00:27:47.76\00:27:50.83 As a matter of fact, when you seek to destroy someone, 00:27:50.86\00:27:53.61 in essence you're destroying your own self. 00:27:53.64\00:27:56.86 Our encouragement to you today is go back to the word of God. 00:27:56.89\00:28:00.99 Our encouragement to you is to trust in God, 00:28:01.02\00:28:03.97 love Him, and serve Him. 00:28:04.01\00:28:06.21