Welcome to Marriage In God's Hands. 00:00:29.35\00:00:32.52 I'm Alanzo Smith and this is my wife June Smith. 00:00:32.55\00:00:36.62 And we just celebrated our anniversary. 00:00:36.65\00:00:41.21 After 33 years. 00:00:41.24\00:00:44.25 Alanzo is my lover and husband. 00:00:44.28\00:00:47.84 And he's the Family Life and Family Ministries director of 00:00:47.87\00:00:51.91 the greater New York conference of Seventh-day Adventists. 00:00:51.95\00:00:54.96 And June is a professor at Long Island University 00:00:55.08\00:00:59.29 and she also has a private practice. 00:00:59.32\00:01:02.31 We're here today to talk about adultery, 00:01:02.34\00:01:06.25 a family problem. 00:01:06.28\00:01:08.99 This is a growing family problem. 00:01:09.02\00:01:12.51 It is one of the saddest things that happens in families. 00:01:12.52\00:01:17.18 We have so many people who are having challenges 00:01:17.21\00:01:21.43 in their marriages simply because one partner 00:01:21.46\00:01:25.34 went and committed adultery. 00:01:25.37\00:01:28.39 So we are saying that adultery, for the most part, 00:01:28.93\00:01:34.59 just does not happen in a vacuum. 00:01:34.62\00:01:37.68 It is true that there are some relationships that they just 00:01:37.71\00:01:41.15 start like that, but often times there's a buildup, 00:01:41.18\00:01:44.84 a gradual creeping compromise that you make. 00:01:44.87\00:01:48.41 So we are saying that people don't always intentionally 00:01:48.44\00:01:51.73 go out to have what we call an affair 00:01:51.76\00:01:53.99 or a relationship outside of their marriage. 00:01:54.29\00:01:57.90 But there are things that begin to happen that we want to 00:01:57.93\00:02:00.97 point out as red flags. 00:02:01.00\00:02:02.46 So hopefully we will be more aware and protect and 00:02:02.49\00:02:07.76 put boundaries in our relationships. 00:02:07.79\00:02:09.93 Let's examine some of the conditions that lead to 00:02:10.74\00:02:13.92 an adulterous relationship. 00:02:13.95\00:02:15.65 For example, sharing things in common. 00:02:15.68\00:02:19.35 It seems to be the least threatening of all the 00:02:19.38\00:02:23.63 conditions that we can mention. 00:02:23.66\00:02:25.33 But we need to talk about it. 00:02:25.36\00:02:27.47 When you have mutual interests and you find that it is easy to 00:02:27.79\00:02:34.08 talk to an individual about those interests, you tend to 00:02:34.11\00:02:37.95 form a bond and you tend to develop an attachment that 00:02:37.98\00:02:42.52 allows you to feel comfortable in the presence of each other. 00:02:42.55\00:02:45.90 Common interests could be things like we share the same birthday, 00:02:45.93\00:02:49.75 we like the same sports team, we are of the same ethnicity, 00:02:49.78\00:02:56.58 we are maybe possibly the same religion. 00:02:56.61\00:03:00.10 There are things in common that we share and that causes us 00:03:00.13\00:03:03.39 to talk a lot on the lunch break, every time we have some 00:03:03.42\00:03:06.67 time together or we meet each other, there's something 00:03:06.70\00:03:09.28 in common that we can share. 00:03:09.31\00:03:10.98 And this tends to lead to a chemistry. 00:03:11.01\00:03:13.26 We begin to feel... 00:03:13.29\00:03:14.75 We let our guards down and we begin to feel 00:03:14.78\00:03:17.32 close to each other. 00:03:17.35\00:03:18.40 Now up to that point, it seems like just a very simple 00:03:18.43\00:03:21.78 innocent relationship. 00:03:21.81\00:03:22.91 I was about to ask you that because are we saying that 00:03:22.94\00:03:25.06 at that stage that an affair is happening here? 00:03:25.09\00:03:27.28 It's not necessarily yet an affair but it leads to or 00:03:27.38\00:03:30.94 could lead to an affair. 00:03:30.97\00:03:32.35 So we just want individuals to be aware that even in 00:03:32.38\00:03:35.86 forming friendships you want to establish very clear boundaries 00:03:35.89\00:03:39.53 when you are already married. 00:03:39.54\00:03:41.52 And you mentioned chemistry. 00:03:41.73\00:03:44.72 The chemistry is where you find individuals 00:03:45.68\00:03:49.23 are able to communicate a lot. 00:03:49.26\00:03:51.28 Communication process is smooth, they can talk, 00:03:51.31\00:03:54.50 they can share. 00:03:54.51\00:03:55.61 And in their lives, the bonding that is growing 00:03:55.64\00:03:59.15 and that is developing. 00:03:59.18\00:04:00.46 And what tends to happen at this point is that the individual, 00:04:00.49\00:04:04.35 or one individual is getting what we call 00:04:04.38\00:04:06.25 emotional needs being met. 00:04:06.28\00:04:08.87 So you start turning to this friend for emotional support 00:04:08.88\00:04:13.47 if you're having problems, if you're having difficulties. 00:04:13.50\00:04:17.82 It is easy now to relate to this person, it is easy to talk 00:04:17.85\00:04:21.17 to this person because there's this chemistry and 00:04:21.20\00:04:23.38 you have learned to share ideas and to share things in common. 00:04:23.41\00:04:26.51 And you begin to even notice when, you know... 00:04:26.54\00:04:29.12 Let us suppose this is a co-worker, or maybe a person 00:04:29.15\00:04:33.18 in your Sabbath school class, or somebody who is 00:04:33.21\00:04:36.13 in another relationship with you. 00:04:36.16\00:04:37.77 You noticeably begin to see that this person is absent 00:04:37.80\00:04:41.83 when they're not there. 00:04:41.86\00:04:42.99 It's not just another person outside of the office 00:04:43.02\00:04:45.81 or outside of church. 00:04:45.84\00:04:46.81 You begin to feel the absence of this person 00:04:46.84\00:04:49.23 in your relationship. 00:04:49.26\00:04:50.31 So we are talking about emotional emptiness. 00:04:50.34\00:04:53.45 When you have spend so much time talking and sharing, 00:04:55.78\00:05:01.28 innocently, things that happen at home, on the job, wherever, 00:05:01.31\00:05:06.82 and when this person is away on a vacation, whatever it is, 00:05:06.85\00:05:10.49 and you're not able to share, to talk, and you might not 00:05:10.52\00:05:12.59 have access to email or texting, you start missing this person, 00:05:12.60\00:05:16.99 you start feeling the absence. 00:05:17.02\00:05:18.91 And this could lead to; you're at home and you're not happy. 00:05:18.94\00:05:22.94 And your spouse might be saying, 00:05:22.97\00:05:24.15 "What's wrong? Is something wrong?" 00:05:24.18\00:05:25.33 And you say, "No, nothing is wrong. " 00:05:25.36\00:05:26.72 But something really is wrong because there's this 00:05:26.75\00:05:30.16 emotional emptiness. 00:05:30.19\00:05:31.21 So in your emotions and in your psyche, almost, 00:05:31.24\00:05:34.10 there's a noticeable bond that has occurred. 00:05:34.13\00:05:37.21 And all of a sudden, you become conscious that this person 00:05:37.24\00:05:40.32 means more than just a co-worker or just an acquaintance. 00:05:40.35\00:05:43.89 So we are going down what we consider a slippery slope. 00:05:43.92\00:05:47.69 And the danger of that is most people who begin to 00:05:47.70\00:05:52.06 establish a relationship with this person will now begin to 00:05:52.09\00:05:55.51 have a mental comparison. 00:05:55.54\00:05:57.36 We're talking about conditions that lead to adultery. 00:05:57.39\00:06:01.82 And one of them is this mental comparison that you make 00:06:01.83\00:06:08.91 between your spouse and this individual. 00:06:08.94\00:06:12.46 You find that you have spent so much time talking to 00:06:12.49\00:06:15.12 this person, so much time sharing, so much togetherness, 00:06:15.15\00:06:18.37 there is this synergy, there's this connection 00:06:18.40\00:06:21.70 that you have with this individual. 00:06:21.73\00:06:23.23 So in a subtle way now, you start comparing your spouse 00:06:23.26\00:06:31.16 with this person. 00:06:31.19\00:06:32.61 And guess what? 00:06:32.64\00:06:34.53 The person is coming out to be the better of the two. 00:06:34.56\00:06:38.09 And I think we would be right if we would say that the other 00:06:38.12\00:06:42.31 person that you're spending all this time with 00:06:42.34\00:06:44.26 and having this bonding and attachment with 00:06:44.29\00:06:46.75 is also going through the same experience 00:06:46.78\00:06:48.57 psychologically and emotionally. 00:06:48.60\00:06:49.84 And so both of you are becoming very conscious 00:06:49.87\00:06:52.25 that there is something special happening. 00:06:52.28\00:06:55.01 Yea, and we compare physical beauty. 00:06:55.04\00:07:00.34 All of a sudden, this person is more beautiful than your spouse. 00:07:00.37\00:07:03.59 You compare how they laugh, how they smile. 00:07:03.62\00:07:08.67 You start saying, "This person listens to me more. 00:07:08.70\00:07:11.66 This person understands me more. " 00:07:11.69\00:07:13.73 We rationalize things away and give ourselves 00:07:13.76\00:07:16.80 reasons for wanting to spend time with them and 00:07:16.83\00:07:19.75 reasons for wanting to talk with this individual. 00:07:19.78\00:07:22.15 Not understanding, however, that we're moving steadily 00:07:22.18\00:07:26.13 along this slippery slope. 00:07:26.16\00:07:27.99 The danger with that is, however, that when this 00:07:28.09\00:07:31.45 begins to happen, you don't have access to this person 00:07:31.48\00:07:36.06 as you openly should. 00:07:36.09\00:07:38.13 So you are likely to begin to be deceptive. 00:07:38.16\00:07:41.83 Precisely. 00:07:41.86\00:07:42.95 Deceit triggers in. 00:07:42.98\00:07:47.46 I have to hide, I have to be exclusive, 00:07:47.49\00:07:50.89 I have to develop passwords. 00:07:50.92\00:07:53.65 I have to do everything so that I can still find time 00:07:53.68\00:07:57.59 to spend time with this individual but I have to 00:07:57.62\00:08:01.07 hide it from my spouse. 00:08:01.10\00:08:03.21 And it's about that time that the other spouse, 00:08:03.22\00:08:06.15 the non-adulterous or the spouse who's not 00:08:06.18\00:08:10.48 engaging in an external relationship, 00:08:10.51\00:08:13.61 begins to notice something happening in the relationship, 00:08:13.64\00:08:16.10 in her marriage or his marriage. 00:08:16.13\00:08:17.88 And we want to say to our listeners listening to us, 00:08:17.91\00:08:21.74 if for any reason you find yourself at any of these stages 00:08:21.77\00:08:26.18 along the continuum, you ought to take an honest 00:08:26.21\00:08:29.83 introspective look at yourself and see where you're going 00:08:29.84\00:08:33.34 and say to yourself, "I have to check, I have to stop. " 00:08:33.37\00:08:37.60 See, if you step into the water, no matter how good a swimmer 00:08:37.63\00:08:43.67 you are, you will get wet. 00:08:43.70\00:08:46.29 So when you start stepping into these conditions, 00:08:46.79\00:08:51.16 start finding yourself at this stage, the chances are 00:08:51.19\00:08:55.11 you will be taken downstream. 00:08:55.14\00:08:57.20 So we're saying that in friendships, in relationships, 00:08:57.21\00:08:59.88 in meeting people, we will develop bonds and we will 00:08:59.91\00:09:03.07 develop some sense of attachment. 00:09:03.08\00:09:05.68 However, when you are married and you are investing in a 00:09:05.71\00:09:08.55 relationship, you ought to be cautious and you really 00:09:08.58\00:09:11.99 should be aware that these emotional attachments 00:09:12.02\00:09:14.77 could lead you into adulterous relationships. 00:09:14.80\00:09:18.29 Create boundaries. 00:09:18.32\00:09:19.48 So we want to create established limits. 00:09:19.51\00:09:21.32 That's important. 00:09:21.35\00:09:22.37 Create boundaries in relationships. 00:09:22.38\00:09:24.27 We're not in any way saying that you will not form friendships 00:09:24.30\00:09:27.52 or you should not form friendships. 00:09:27.55\00:09:29.23 But what we're saying, create boundaries. 00:09:29.26\00:09:31.42 And understand that if you don't, then they 00:09:31.45\00:09:33.86 lead to a slippery slope. 00:09:33.89\00:09:35.05 And we're saying that when you're in a marriage 00:09:35.08\00:09:36.70 you really shouldn't entertain individual friendships that are 00:09:36.73\00:09:40.24 exclusive of your marriage partner. 00:09:40.27\00:09:43.12 So if you have a friend that is not your wife's friend 00:09:43.13\00:09:46.79 or your husband's friend, then you ought to be aware 00:09:46.82\00:09:49.48 that this could lead you, if you're spending quality time 00:09:49.51\00:09:52.47 with this person and secret meetings with this person 00:09:52.50\00:09:55.40 and exchanging gifts and doing all these things, 00:09:55.43\00:09:58.34 that you could be heading in a difficult place. 00:09:58.37\00:10:02.53 Another condition that we would want to examine is 00:10:02.56\00:10:05.46 what we call the kinesthetic embrace. 00:10:05.49\00:10:08.16 It may start out with just a mild handshake 00:10:08.19\00:10:11.27 but then the handshake becomes prolonged, a little longer. 00:10:11.30\00:10:14.92 A squeeze, a hug. 00:10:14.95\00:10:16.68 And here we are having now physical contact. 00:10:16.71\00:10:20.10 Is there danger in this subtle physical contact? 00:10:20.13\00:10:24.35 Because the normal person looking on the outside 00:10:24.38\00:10:26.99 seeing you hugging this individual would not be 00:10:27.02\00:10:29.65 able to conclude anything. 00:10:29.68\00:10:31.04 But the synergy, the energy, what's going 00:10:31.07\00:10:32.63 on between both of you; both of you are communicating. 00:10:32.66\00:10:35.43 Is there danger here? 00:10:35.50\00:10:37.03 If you notice, it's a progression. 00:10:37.04\00:10:38.66 We started having mutual interest, then we started 00:10:38.69\00:10:41.07 developing a chemistry between each other. 00:10:41.10\00:10:42.90 And as we progress, we find that we were getting some 00:10:42.93\00:10:45.69 emotional benefit from this relationship. 00:10:45.72\00:10:47.66 And surely, if now you start getting physical, 00:10:47.69\00:10:51.56 it is likely to lead you into deeper bonds. 00:10:51.59\00:10:54.90 So yes, there is a danger. 00:10:54.93\00:10:56.50 Now is it possible that this could even happen in church? 00:10:56.53\00:10:58.73 Oh, it happens in church. It happens everywhere. 00:10:59.48\00:11:03.20 And we're asking individuals to be on guard. 00:11:03.21\00:11:06.43 We want people to be warm, we want people to be open, 00:11:06.46\00:11:09.60 we want people to be friendly. 00:11:09.63\00:11:11.02 We don't want you to be hostile and nobody 00:11:11.05\00:11:13.71 wants to come around you. 00:11:13.74\00:11:14.81 All we're asking is that you create boundaries. 00:11:14.84\00:11:18.47 You understand who your spouse is, who your friend is, 00:11:18.50\00:11:23.00 and there must be a marked difference between the 00:11:23.03\00:11:25.87 two in your relationship. 00:11:25.90\00:11:27.15 And of course, you want to think about... 00:11:27.18\00:11:28.45 We will go into the consequences and what happens as a result 00:11:28.48\00:11:31.79 of some of these relationships. 00:11:31.82\00:11:32.91 But if especially you have children in your relationship, 00:11:32.94\00:11:36.21 when you begin to take this journey towards establishing 00:11:36.24\00:11:39.94 external attachments and bonding, first think about 00:11:39.97\00:11:42.97 the impact it could have on your child. 00:11:43.00\00:11:45.61 Gift giving is another condition that pushes one along the way. 00:11:46.11\00:11:50.00 We start giving gifts. 00:11:50.03\00:11:51.86 We start with small gifts, inexpensive gifts. 00:11:51.89\00:11:55.07 And then it mushrooms, it develops into 00:11:55.08\00:11:58.29 more expensive gifts. 00:11:58.32\00:12:00.12 And some of you are on the receiving end of these gifts. 00:12:00.15\00:12:04.45 And you have to have a conscience within yourself 00:12:04.48\00:12:07.38 to say, "I shouldn't take this gift. " 00:12:07.41\00:12:09.93 So now you start exchanging gifts, you're sending a 00:12:09.96\00:12:12.64 very clear message, "I like you," 00:12:12.67\00:12:14.56 "I'm interested in you," "I admire you," 00:12:14.59\00:12:17.32 "I need to be with you more frequently. " 00:12:17.35\00:12:20.04 And that leads to what we might conclude to be secret meetings. 00:12:20.07\00:12:24.22 Secret meetings are dangerous. 00:12:24.25\00:12:26.75 Secret meetings occur alone in a car, visiting at the office, 00:12:26.76\00:12:32.47 visiting at the home. 00:12:32.50\00:12:33.84 Secret meetings occur frequently and often. 00:12:33.87\00:12:37.32 But one has to be careful because in there lies the trap 00:12:37.35\00:12:42.59 for these secret meetings. 00:12:42.62\00:12:45.90 So we're talking about creeping compromises. 00:12:45.93\00:12:48.50 When you're in a marriage, when you're in a relationship 00:12:48.51\00:12:51.41 that you're totally committed to and truly committed to... 00:12:51.44\00:12:54.56 And we could conclude that you really shouldn't be 00:12:54.57\00:12:56.40 in a marriage if you're not committed to it. 00:12:56.43\00:12:58.37 Because marriage is about commitment. 00:12:58.40\00:13:00.28 We actually made a commitment when we got married. 00:13:00.29\00:13:03.49 So when you're in a marriage and you have a commitment, 00:13:03.52\00:13:05.99 you don't want to do anything that would 00:13:06.02\00:13:07.76 compromise that relationship. 00:13:07.79\00:13:09.21 So the final step in this progression is this 00:13:09.24\00:13:12.75 creeping compromise where you talk about, you rationalize, 00:13:12.78\00:13:16.90 you justify your behavior, you give reasons. 00:13:16.93\00:13:19.44 And as a result of this you find yourself doing things and 00:13:19.47\00:13:23.40 going places you should not go and you should not do. 00:13:23.44\00:13:26.69 So we are saying, we're agreeing that these are some things 00:13:27.76\00:13:31.34 that we shouldn't do that leads to the adultery. 00:13:31.37\00:13:34.21 We are going to take a break but we will come back 00:13:34.83\00:13:37.78 and pick up to talk about the consequences 00:13:37.81\00:13:40.20 and remedy for adultery. 00:13:40.23\00:13:42.08 There are many How To books available 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together. 00:14:43.92\00:14:46.21 Things like building a chemistry in a relationship 00:14:46.24\00:14:50.07 that's just a casual friendship. 00:14:50.10\00:14:51.94 Meeting emotional needs. 00:14:51.97\00:14:54.11 Noticeable absence when the person is not there, 00:14:54.14\00:14:58.58 how you feel. 00:14:58.61\00:14:59.66 We talked about this mental comparison that you make 00:14:59.67\00:15:04.01 with your spouse and this friendship. 00:15:04.04\00:15:06.97 And Alanzo, I think that's almost like the 00:15:07.00\00:15:08.47 turning point, actually. 00:15:08.50\00:15:10.07 Because in ordinary friendships you have some chemistry, 00:15:10.10\00:15:14.87 you have common things in practice. 00:15:14.90\00:15:16.43 But you don't begin to compare and contrast your spouse 00:15:16.46\00:15:19.81 and begin to feel or give the edge to somebody else. 00:15:19.84\00:15:22.94 So when that begins to happen, you know 00:15:22.95\00:15:25.49 you're heading in the wrong direction. 00:15:25.52\00:15:28.08 The seeds are going to conceive because 00:15:28.11\00:15:29.48 you have to start hiding things now. 00:15:29.52\00:15:31.32 And we talk about this embrace. 00:15:31.35\00:15:34.08 We call it the kinesthetic embrace where you 00:15:34.09\00:15:37.04 want to touch, you want to hug, you want to kiss, 00:15:37.07\00:15:39.60 or caress the person which is another dangerous 00:15:39.63\00:15:42.54 area we're moving into. 00:15:42.57\00:15:43.71 So we conclude that we call these compromises, 00:15:43.74\00:15:46.76 creeping compromises, where gradually you start on a 00:15:46.79\00:15:49.48 sliding slope and eventually you end up in a full blown affair. 00:15:49.51\00:15:53.81 There are consequences though, serious consequences, 00:15:53.84\00:15:57.43 to an adulterous relationship. 00:15:57.46\00:16:00.10 What might be some of these consequences that 00:16:00.13\00:16:03.42 we would like to look in the eyes of our listeners and 00:16:03.45\00:16:06.23 talk to them about it and share with them. 00:16:06.26\00:16:08.79 I think one of the most painful is that the person who is 00:16:08.82\00:16:14.49 engaging in this adulterous relationship is likely to 00:16:14.52\00:16:18.24 lose his or her family. 00:16:18.27\00:16:20.54 So we have what we call divided homes 00:16:20.57\00:16:23.33 where now the other spouse who finds out about this affair 00:16:23.36\00:16:27.28 is likely to walk away from the marriage. 00:16:27.29\00:16:29.34 And you have a marriage, a family with two or three 00:16:29.37\00:16:33.25 kids, being split. 00:16:33.26\00:16:35.81 So divided loyalty leads to divided homes. 00:16:35.84\00:16:39.56 And that's a serious consequence you know, because we have to... 00:16:39.59\00:16:43.39 It's not just two people walking away. 00:16:43.42\00:16:45.41 The emotional consequence, the financial consequence. 00:16:45.44\00:16:48.80 But greatest of all, the impact on the children. 00:16:48.83\00:16:52.99 And the spiritual impact as well. 00:16:53.02\00:16:55.86 I have dealt with so many couples, so many individuals, 00:16:55.89\00:17:00.01 who have been either victims or perpetrators 00:17:00.04\00:17:03.12 in adulterous relationships. 00:17:03.13\00:17:04.59 I recall a woman who had called me one night and 00:17:04.62\00:17:07.54 she was actually suicidal because she found out 00:17:07.57\00:17:11.61 her spouse was having an adulterous relationship. 00:17:11.64\00:17:14.37 And thank God she had called a friend and told her about 00:17:14.40\00:17:17.89 the incident and her friend referred her for counseling. 00:17:17.92\00:17:20.72 So the pain, the sadness, the depression 00:17:20.75\00:17:24.56 that one experiences when they suddenly find themselves 00:17:24.59\00:17:27.70 in a situation where they have to make a choice between 00:17:27.73\00:17:30.20 staying married and leaving the marriage because the partner 00:17:30.23\00:17:33.71 committed adultery can be devastating for all. 00:17:33.74\00:17:38.45 I heard a son telling his dad that he did not 00:17:38.48\00:17:44.98 respect him anymore. 00:17:45.01\00:17:46.43 And the father was bewildered, he couldn't understand why. 00:17:46.46\00:17:50.68 And when he asked the son, the son said, 00:17:50.71\00:17:53.13 "You think I don't know what you're doing to mom? 00:17:53.16\00:17:55.71 I read everything on the computer. " 00:17:55.74\00:17:58.04 So he did not know that the son somehow found access 00:17:58.07\00:18:01.34 to his computer and was reading everything. 00:18:01.37\00:18:03.80 So here we find out a lack of trust that develops 00:18:03.83\00:18:09.15 in the life of the child towards the dad. 00:18:09.18\00:18:12.14 As you cite that experience, I recall the 00:18:12.17\00:18:14.81 story of a young girl. 00:18:14.84\00:18:16.06 She was fourteen years old doing very well 00:18:16.09\00:18:18.77 in school academically. 00:18:18.80\00:18:19.84 And her parents all of a sudden got her last report card 00:18:19.87\00:18:23.98 and realized she was failing. 00:18:24.01\00:18:25.69 And of course that caught their attention. 00:18:25.72\00:18:27.41 And they brought her in for counseling because they 00:18:27.44\00:18:29.36 couldn't get anything out of her. 00:18:29.39\00:18:30.68 She wouldn't talk, she was depressed, she was very sad. 00:18:30.71\00:18:34.21 And when I interviewed the young girl, she asked 00:18:34.24\00:18:37.64 the parents to leave the room. 00:18:37.67\00:18:38.73 And I said, "What's going on? 00:18:38.76\00:18:39.94 Let's talk about how I might be able to help you. " 00:18:39.97\00:18:41.98 She said, "My parents are such hypocrites. 00:18:42.01\00:18:44.64 My father doesn't know that I know he's 00:18:44.67\00:18:48.89 having an affair with another woman 00:18:48.90\00:18:50.44 and is cheating on my mother. " 00:18:50.45\00:18:52.11 And that's why this little girl was failing in school. 00:18:52.14\00:18:55.72 So sometimes... 00:18:55.75\00:18:56.99 They would have thought that the truancy they saw in the child; 00:18:57.02\00:19:00.56 the acting up and misbehavior, the child is defiant. 00:19:00.59\00:19:04.25 Not knowing that they themselves are, in this case he himself, 00:19:04.28\00:19:08.54 is the one that is causing all of this. 00:19:08.57\00:19:11.04 The father had no clue that his child was aware 00:19:11.07\00:19:13.90 of what was going on. 00:19:13.93\00:19:14.93 So yes, it has a devastating affect on the child. 00:19:14.96\00:19:17.43 And we should emphasize the spiritual component 00:19:17.46\00:19:21.89 to all of this because the family suffers spiritually, 00:19:21.90\00:19:27.02 but the church also suffers because sometimes these 00:19:27.05\00:19:30.45 individuals are prominent leaders and prominent members 00:19:30.49\00:19:33.86 within the congregation. 00:19:33.90\00:19:35.76 And that does affect the church at large. 00:19:35.77\00:19:38.80 The credibility of our gospel. 00:19:38.81\00:19:41.24 I think one of the things that tends to happen is that 00:19:41.27\00:19:43.77 young women who are engaging in an adulterous affair 00:19:43.80\00:19:49.36 with a married man, of course, although adultery occurs with 00:19:49.39\00:19:52.63 other married people, many times it compromises 00:19:52.64\00:19:55.61 the single woman or single male. 00:19:55.64\00:19:58.18 Because, think about it, when a married man approaches 00:19:58.21\00:20:01.29 a single woman and tries to engage her in a relationship, 00:20:01.32\00:20:05.00 what is he likely to offer her? 00:20:05.03\00:20:06.86 You know, sometimes they make promises, empty promises. 00:20:07.79\00:20:12.67 Promises that they are not able to fulfill. 00:20:12.70\00:20:15.31 But whether or not he's able to, or she's able to fulfill the 00:20:15.34\00:20:19.39 promise, the fact of the matter is, it is detriment to the 00:20:19.42\00:20:23.88 health of the marital relationship. 00:20:23.91\00:20:25.92 And not only that, society suffers as a whole 00:20:25.95\00:20:29.01 when you look at the social and the moral values in society. 00:20:29.04\00:20:33.18 You know, we're living in an age, this 21st century 00:20:33.21\00:20:35.97 in which we're living in, you look at the stars, the Hollywood 00:20:36.00\00:20:39.66 stars, the leaders, the professionals, 00:20:39.67\00:20:41.93 these individuals, and too many of them, 00:20:41.96\00:20:45.28 their families are falling apart. 00:20:45.31\00:20:46.76 There are too many figures that we hold in the society 00:20:46.79\00:20:50.35 as such that afterward it comes out there's an affair. 00:20:50.38\00:20:53.71 It's happening too often. 00:20:54.85\00:20:56.96 And our young people idolize these stars, 00:20:56.99\00:21:00.96 look to them, pattern them, et cetera. 00:21:00.99\00:21:04.12 And when this happens it affects them. 00:21:04.15\00:21:06.91 So we could say this behavior has almost become norm. 00:21:06.94\00:21:10.67 And so young people feel comfortable, or individuals, 00:21:10.70\00:21:13.37 almost feel comfortable going outside of their relationship. 00:21:13.38\00:21:16.21 Because they, quote, see significant and important 00:21:16.24\00:21:19.08 people who practice this kind of behavior. 00:21:19.11\00:21:21.81 But we are saying, by God's standards, that's not God's 00:21:21.84\00:21:25.09 intent for the family. 00:21:25.12\00:21:26.23 When we get married, we're saying we are married forever 00:21:26.26\00:21:29.35 and we want to be faithful and loyal to each other. 00:21:29.38\00:21:32.37 You know, June, the pressure and suicide and suicidal ideation 00:21:32.38\00:21:38.72 sometimes comes into play here. 00:21:38.73\00:21:41.77 There are individuals who it becomes so painful, 00:21:41.80\00:21:45.45 it becomes so hurtful; sleepless nights and sleepless days and 00:21:45.48\00:21:52.56 the crying, that sometimes they feel they just 00:21:52.76\00:21:55.04 want to end it all. 00:21:55.07\00:21:56.05 Sometimes they feel trapped and they feel like they've been 00:21:56.09\00:21:58.21 invested so much in the relationship. 00:21:58.24\00:22:00.13 But we're here to tell you that no matter what, 00:22:00.16\00:22:03.45 suicide is never an option. 00:22:03.48\00:22:05.82 Never ever. 00:22:05.85\00:22:06.87 And yes you will feel sad and you'll be very upset 00:22:06.90\00:22:09.41 that this has happened. 00:22:09.42\00:22:10.44 But by God's grace, you can have life after an affair. 00:22:10.47\00:22:13.88 And sometimes this comes to complicate the family; 00:22:13.98\00:22:17.05 when a child outside of the marriage is involved. 00:22:17.08\00:22:20.35 That creates a lot of complication. 00:22:20.36\00:22:22.16 Yes, that's probably one of the saddest things that happens. 00:22:23.32\00:22:26.62 Because a child who is born into a relationship 00:22:26.65\00:22:29.73 where the father is married to somebody else 00:22:29.76\00:22:32.55 really is likely to have very difficult problems. 00:22:32.58\00:22:37.82 And our listeners out there, I'm sure there are individuals 00:22:38.51\00:22:44.31 listening to us right now who can identify with exactly 00:22:44.34\00:22:48.70 what we are talking about. 00:22:48.73\00:22:50.11 Here it is, you want your marriage and you're doing 00:22:50.14\00:22:52.70 everything to keep the marriage, and all of a sudden you hear now 00:22:52.73\00:22:55.99 there is a child involved. 00:22:56.02\00:22:57.79 What should be the approach of, first of all, the offending 00:22:57.80\00:23:03.26 partner, the one who went outside and fathered 00:23:03.29\00:23:06.73 or mothered a child? 00:23:06.76\00:23:07.82 If that happens, I think it is important for them, 00:23:07.83\00:23:10.32 for the husband or the wife, to acknowledge that this happened 00:23:10.35\00:23:13.44 and to face it with the spouse. 00:23:13.47\00:23:15.97 And if the spouse is willing to forgive you and wants to stay 00:23:16.00\00:23:19.08 married with you, then you must be able to negotiate 00:23:19.11\00:23:22.64 with your spouse to take care of your child. 00:23:22.67\00:23:24.84 And we're talking about the attitude now. 00:23:24.87\00:23:27.95 It has to be with humility, a humble heart. 00:23:27.98\00:23:32.62 You can't just demand, "This is my child and 00:23:32.65\00:23:36.18 I have to take care of my child. " 00:23:36.21\00:23:37.62 No, that's not the attitude. 00:23:37.65\00:23:39.04 You have done something that is wrong 00:23:39.07\00:23:40.76 so you have to be humble, you have to ask for forgiveness. 00:23:40.79\00:23:43.70 You have to ask your spouse to help, to understand, 00:23:43.73\00:23:47.65 and work with you rather than demanding. 00:23:47.68\00:23:49.82 And I can understand how painful it must be for the 00:23:50.02\00:23:53.05 wife or husband to have to embrace this child. 00:23:53.08\00:23:55.60 But remember, the child is the innocent victim here. 00:23:55.63\00:23:58.33 The child had nothing to do with what went on between the adults. 00:23:58.36\00:24:02.13 And irresponsible people allowed this to happen. 00:24:02.16\00:24:05.10 So now, yes, the wife who's husband went out and 00:24:05.13\00:24:08.84 had an affair that yielded a child, think about this child. 00:24:08.87\00:24:12.64 And you really need to embrace this child and help to get 00:24:12.67\00:24:15.74 the support that the child needs. 00:24:15.77\00:24:17.11 We want to share with our listeners some remedies. 00:24:17.71\00:24:22.78 We have talked about the problem. 00:24:22.81\00:24:25.36 If someone is listening, so where do we go from here? 00:24:25.39\00:24:28.70 What do we do? 00:24:28.73\00:24:29.79 And the first thing we should say is, acknowledge 00:24:29.82\00:24:34.00 that there is a problem. 00:24:34.03\00:24:35.52 You have to acknowledge that there is a problem. 00:24:35.55\00:24:37.44 That's your starting point. 00:24:37.47\00:24:38.64 Because there can be no true healing, no true forgiveness, 00:24:38.67\00:24:42.29 if you're in denial. 00:24:42.32\00:24:43.82 And while you acknowledge that there is a problem, 00:24:43.85\00:24:46.07 you must be committed to quit the relationship. 00:24:46.10\00:24:49.42 You can't fix it if you continue in the same path. 00:24:49.45\00:24:53.90 And by quitting, we mean confronting the lover 00:24:53.93\00:24:57.17 and saying, "This is over. " 00:24:57.20\00:24:59.18 You have to end it, put a closure and a full stop. 00:24:59.21\00:25:03.24 Allow no possibility for continuation 00:25:03.27\00:25:06.49 of the relationship. 00:25:06.52\00:25:08.49 It reminds me of the way God relates to us. 00:25:08.52\00:25:10.91 When we sin, God is willing to forgive us. 00:25:10.94\00:25:13.54 But He says we must turn around 360 degrees. 00:25:13.57\00:25:16.61 So it is in an adulterous relationship. 00:25:16.64\00:25:18.68 In addition to this, we've got to encourage the 00:25:18.71\00:25:21.94 offending partner to apologize to the spouse, 00:25:21.97\00:25:25.31 to acknowledge that, "I hurt you and I wronged you. " 00:25:25.34\00:25:29.88 Be transparent. 00:25:29.91\00:25:31.02 Come clean. 00:25:32.23\00:25:33.43 Put everything on the table. 00:25:34.28\00:25:36.03 Work towards a resolution. 00:25:36.06\00:25:38.40 It makes no sense to have an attitude. 00:25:38.43\00:25:41.09 You have done something that is wrong, 00:25:41.12\00:25:43.26 you have violated the covenant marriage, 00:25:43.27\00:25:45.32 and you have violated the covenant of heaven. 00:25:45.35\00:25:47.48 Do your best to bring about a resolution. 00:25:47.51\00:25:50.44 The best thing is to keep your marriage intact. 00:25:50.47\00:25:54.78 And remember, you're going to have to work real hard 00:25:54.81\00:25:57.67 to restore trust; to get the spouse to trust that every time 00:25:57.70\00:26:02.59 you leave home, you are in a safe place. 00:26:02.60\00:26:05.97 And that will take some time. 00:26:06.00\00:26:07.44 To build back trust, it doesn't happen overnight. 00:26:07.47\00:26:11.89 It is something that you'll have to be patient with your 00:26:11.92\00:26:14.53 spouse on and work towards. 00:26:14.57\00:26:17.42 But yes, it can be done. 00:26:17.45\00:26:19.98 Through the grace of God, through the mercies of God. 00:26:20.01\00:26:22.40 It is not God's intention that individuals within families 00:26:22.43\00:26:28.02 should have an affair. 00:26:28.03\00:26:29.17 It was not God's intention. 00:26:29.20\00:26:30.70 When He says we should leave our father and mother and 00:26:30.73\00:26:33.69 cleave to our wife, cleave to our spouse, 00:26:33.70\00:26:36.78 cleave to our husband, this was God's intention in marriage 00:26:36.81\00:26:40.12 that we stay together. 00:26:40.15\00:26:41.86 And we should stay together. 00:26:41.87\00:26:44.46 So if there's a problem, if there was an affair 00:26:44.49\00:26:48.09 in the relationship, we are saying, let's acknowledge it, 00:26:48.12\00:26:50.90 let's turn away from it, and let's move forward to restore 00:26:50.91\00:26:53.90 trust in our original relationship. 00:26:53.93\00:26:56.74 The greatest remedy that we can share with you 00:26:57.24\00:27:00.75 is the remedy of making sure your spiritual reservoir 00:27:00.78\00:27:06.49 is replenished. 00:27:06.50\00:27:08.35 That is important. 00:27:08.38\00:27:10.12 You replenish it through reading the word of God, 00:27:10.15\00:27:13.84 and through prayer. 00:27:13.85\00:27:16.18 The psalmist says, "Thy word have I hid in my heart 00:27:16.21\00:27:19.43 that I might not sin against Thee. " 00:27:19.46\00:27:23.18 You need the word of God to give you strength. 00:27:23.21\00:27:26.53 Men like David and Sampson failed because their 00:27:26.54\00:27:30.80 spiritual reservoir was not filled up. 00:27:30.83\00:27:33.52 On the other hand, Joseph was able to overcome temptation 00:27:33.55\00:27:38.07 because he had a relationship with God 00:27:38.08\00:27:40.93 and his spiritual reservoir was filled up. 00:27:40.94\00:27:43.99 So we're encouraging you, acquaint yourself with God 00:27:44.02\00:27:46.95 and be at peace. 00:27:46.98\00:27:48.01 We're encouraging you to hide His word in your heart 00:27:48.04\00:27:51.30 so that you will not sin against Him. 00:27:51.31\00:27:53.24 Be strong, be faithful. 00:27:53.27\00:27:55.35 Enjoy your marriage and keep your home happy. 00:27:55.38\00:27:58.32 God bless. 00:27:58.35\00:27:59.90