Participants: Tom Waters, Alane Waters
Series Code: MGH
Program Code: MGH000009
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00:33 Welcome to Marriage Heart to Heart
00:35 We are Tom & Alane Waters with Restoration International 00:39 Today we're going to be talking about the Grave for Faults. 00:41 So we hope you have your pencil and paper ready 00:44 as we begin this interesting topic today. 00:47 You know, one of the greatest curses that face marriages 00:51 and that destroys communication 00:55 is complaining, 00:57 fault finding, 00:59 and gossip. 01:01 It's terrible! 01:03 What are we gonna do about it dear? 01:05 That's a good question! 01:07 And I think it's a problem that a lot of marriages experience 01:10 is this fault finding and criticism, 01:12 - That's right! - And complaining. 01:14 And it's a problem that I had, I know for a period of time. 01:17 And it really didn't help us at all! 01:21 It only hurt us in our relationship. 01:23 Well, and I think it happens with men 01:25 maybe differently than it does with women. 01:28 But I know that there was criticisms, I was finding faults 01:33 And I think the difference, at least in our situation is that 01:38 there was somebody that you started sharing some of that and 01:44 you told me it was kind of to get some sympathy. 01:47 Yes! I think the difference between you and I is that 01:50 you shared your criticisms with me. 01:52 Which is where they should've been shared! 01:54 Even though they may not have been shared in the right spirit. 01:56 And I tended to share with this one particular friend. 02:00 You know some of my discontents or my disappointments. 02:04 And that really didn't help me because I had no balancing 02:08 person on the other side. 02:10 It was only here in my side 02:12 of the issue. 02:13 And it didn't help me to resolve things. 02:16 What I saw happening as I started focusing in this areas, 02:20 that became, that started little, that became bigger 02:23 and bigger and pretty soon that's what I started seeing 02:25 in you and that's what you started becoming to me. 02:28 And it was 02:30 quite a scary thing. 02:33 So, it doesn't sound like a really good friend! 02:36 Because, from what I understood, 02:40 she was actually drawing some of this stuff. 02:43 Trying to.. -Well I didn't see that at first 02:46 but I remember once, in my personal study time, 02:49 that I had come across something "that the wives 02:52 heart should be the grave for her husbands faults" 02:55 Sounds good for me. 02:57 Yes! Not only for you! It's really good for both of us. 02:59 That's right! 03:00 My heart needed to be the grave for your faults. 03:03 None of us are perfect! 03:05 And there's always gonna be little things 03:06 that crop up weaknesses or areas of difficulty 03:12 that can crop up. - Yes! 03:13 And if that becomes our focus that changes 03:16 the whole relationship! 03:18 And so, when I read that, it's like the Lord stepped 03:21 right on my toes with that! 03:23 And it's just what I needed to hear! 03:25 And I remember the next time we got together 03:28 I was determined, I was going to let my heart be 03:31 the grave for your faults. 03:32 Because in reality the faults weren't as big as I had 03:35 made them out to be. 03:36 And I can remember right where we were standing in the kitchen 03:39 and she started asking me because I wasn't volunteering 03:42 this time any information. She was asking me questions: 03:45 "Well, how is it with Tom?" 03:46 And I said to her: "I have no complaints!" I said that: 03:49 "The Lord is changing him" 03:51 "The things that he struggles with in the past 03:53 those aren't issues with him anymore!" 03:56 And I can remember her coming back around and saying: 03:59 well, you know: "What about this, and what about that?" 04:01 and I said:"Really, this isn't a weakness that he had, and I 04:05 took responsibility for my part. " 04:07 Even though she wanted to dig a little bit, 04:09 I didn't wanna go there. 04:11 And I saw the difference that made in my heart. 04:14 And that is what began to change me and convince me 04:17 that this needed to be very much a part of who I am 04:21 for you in our marriage, 04:22 to protect our marriage. 04:24 That was a blessing to me, when I realized the position 04:28 that you had taken on that. 04:30 I mean it was a comfort to me, 04:32 because it says in Proverbs 31: 04:35 "The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her" 04:41 Now, this was an area that was a little difficult. 04:43 Some times I didn't know what, you were gonna be talking about 04:46 in that situation. 04:48 And so, you were willing, for my sake 04:52 and for the sake of our marriage, 04:53 to make the faults that I had, 04:57 some of them you had turned in to bigger than they were, 04:59 some of those little, - That's right! 05:02 things. But I believe that by doing that 05:05 you created an environment where 05:07 I could safely trust in you. 05:09 And I've always been able to safely trust in you 05:12 since that time. 05:13 And that's the way it should be in our marriage. 05:15 And I want that because I wanna create that environment 05:19 that you can trust in me. And I have no complaints. 05:22 And if there's anything that I don't like, you're the first one 05:26 that I will come to with. 05:28 And that's the way it should be. 05:29 And not to focus on those little weaknesses because 05:32 we all have them. 05:34 I think that we men can help facilitate this if we want 05:39 to have our wife be someone we can safely trust in. 05:43 Than I think we need to play a part in that because 05:47 we need to be able to communicate together. 05:49 Isn't that right? - That's right! 05:50 If there are things that are happening, 05:52 if I don't want those to turn into mountains, 05:55 if I wanna keep them as they are, some of are... 05:58 it's the little things. We've talked about that before. 06:01 Than we need to be able to communicate. 06:03 You need to be able to talk to me about it. 06:05 We need to be able to sit down and look at some of these things 06:08 That I think, we as husbands can do to help our wife 06:12 in that situation. So if we want her to bury those things and 06:17 we want her heart to be the grave for our faults 06:20 we need to be able to work through those things together. 06:22 That's right! 06:23 And to change those things where we are 06:25 - That's right! - what we can do. 06:26 Is not that we just stuff them under you know, we bury them. 06:29 Anything that's buried goes down dead. And that's 06:31 a very important part. Many people think 06:33 they're burying these issues, 06:35 and they're just stuffing them down alive and they and 06:36 they keep erupting - That's right! 06:38 in the relationship. 06:39 We need to bury them and they can only go down dead, 06:42 if we allow Christ to crucify those feelings 06:45 and those thoughts in ourselves. 06:47 Then they can be put to the grave and really be dead. 06:50 And then the areas that are real, then help each other 06:53 to grow in, that we can strengthen those weaknesses 06:56 and change. 06:58 That's right! 06:59 And I think it works both ways it isn't just something 07:02 I know you read this but 07:04 it also applies to the husband as well. 07:07 Husbands it really does apply to us that 07:12 our hearts should be the grave of our wives faults as well. 07:17 Because what it does: it creates an environment in the home: 07:19 a safe trusting environment. 07:22 Where we can.. 07:24 we're honoring each other. 07:26 There's no reason, that her people have to be involved 07:29 and a lot of the petty things that husbands and wives 07:32 end up sharing outside of the Sacred Circle. 07:36 And as you said a moment ago, it isn't just a matter of 07:40 you just keep being that way or I just keep being this way 07:42 and we just stuff it down and we 07:44 you know say: "Well, we gotta bury it!" 07:46 "Now it's gotta be buried! 07:48 Dead!" 07:49 Ok? 07:50 And it wont be buried dead if we keep it alive! 07:54 An it won't be buried dead if we don't work through it, 07:57 in our hearts. 07:59 That's right! So, when we go back again to 1 Corinthians 13 08:04 it talks about what love will do. This divine love that God 08:07 wants to put in our hearts. 08:09 It changes who we are! It changes our relationship! 08:12 It changes how we treat each other! 08:14 That's right! 08:15 And it improves our relationship 08:17 as husband and wife. 08:18 It sure has! 08:19 Definitely has! 08:20 You know, it creates a sheltering love. 08:24 You know, when you think about, 08:26 isn't it a nice thought? I mean think about that, 08:29 Friends, as a sheltering love. It's a safe place for us 08:32 to be together 08:34 in our relationship! 08:35 And that's the kind of environment 08:36 that we've created in the home. 08:38 Does that mean that I don't have anymore faults? 08:42 No! Neither do I! 08:44 I mean, I also have a few too! 08:46 So it doesn't mean that suddenly all the faults had gone away. 08:49 But, what makes he difference is 08:52 the environment that we deal with those faults in. 08:55 I'm convinced that I can come to you 08:59 and I can talk to you about the things that are bothering you, 09:01 the things that are chafing or agitating to me. 09:04 You can come to me! 09:06 That sheltering love that 1 Corinthians love that bears 09:10 that believes, that hopes and endures all things, 09:14 that kind of love creates a sheltering love environment 09:18 for growing. And prepares the way. 09:21 And prepares our hearts, if I can say this. 09:23 It prepares our hearts to be a good burial ground 09:27 for the faults 09:28 of the one we love! 09:30 So, I think there are two important points that we need 09:32 to bring out in this: our heart being the grave 09:35 for our spouses faults. And the first thing is: 09:38 Is the fault even real? 09:41 Because many of the situations that couples face, 09:44 and some of these were in my own experience. 09:47 What I was seeing as a weakness, 09:48 really wasn't a weakness at all. 09:50 Is just something that you did differently than I did. 09:54 And I didn't understand why you did it the way you did it, 09:56 and I wanted you to do it my way, therefore I saw it 09:59 as a fault for you or as a weakness. 10:01 - That's right! - So, is it even real? 10:03 We have to determine: Is this a real problem? 10:07 Well, I think one of the things and.. 10:10 It happened particularly early in our marriage. 10:14 One of the things that would happen when I had my list 10:17 of things to do, 10:19 it wasn't a really organized list, 10:21 I've learned a lot of organization skills 10:24 in our marriage together. 10:25 And, you know, that was an irritation to you some times. 10:31 Because I'd take my list and I'd go to town 10:34 and it would take me a lot longer to get things done 10:36 because I wasn't organized very well. 10:39 And yet, that faults, you were very gracious to me 10:43 in that fault but I didn't like how you tried to help me. 10:47 Do you remember that? 10:50 Because instead of taking your strength and my weakness 10:53 and combining that, that's what we're doing now, 10:54 in every area of our marriage. 10:57 Because it's exciting. And I think you folks need to realize 11:01 that it's exciting when we take the things that 11:05 are weaknesses, or are faults, or things that we differ on 11:08 and we can blend them together. 11:10 Because now, 11:12 how do I do when I 11:14 have to take care of things? - You're very organized. 11:16 Very organized. 11:17 But I've learned a lot of that in working together 11:20 in our marriage. 11:21 But back in the early days, 11:23 I'd say things like: "Stay out of my business!" 11:26 You know: "I can do this myself!" Right? 11:29 Yes! 11:30 And I viewed your strength, 11:33 as a fault! 11:35 It wasn't really a fault! 11:37 It's not something that I really needed to bury. 11:40 I had a fault! 11:41 And you were trying to help me in that fault. 11:43 And you were doing it in a very nice way, 11:45 trying to offer to me. And it wasn't until we started 11:48 understanding how to communicate better and how 11:51 to give these things to the Lord, 11:53 that now we take those strengths and weaknesses 11:55 and we blend them together. 11:57 And I used to just give you my list. 12:01 That was kind of a transition point. 12:03 I'd say: "You take it!" 12:04 - "And organize it for me!" - "Organize it for me!" 12:07 "Rather than fight over it. " 12:10 Now, I don't even need to give you my list. 12:12 'Cause I've learned! It's been a blessing. 12:15 And so, is it real faults? 12:18 Many times it isn't a real fault I remember that experience 12:22 of the couple that we were talking to just recently. 12:25 And it wasn't. The things she was trying to deal with 12:28 on her husband they weren't real, were they? 12:30 That's right! 12:31 She felt that her husband was always interested 12:34 in other women. 12:35 That's right! 12:36 You know, any what time they would be anywhere in public 12:38 and she would see, you know 12:39 they were the other women around, she was concerned that 12:42 he had eyes for other women. - That's right! 12:44 And it became so real to her that she started 12:47 seeing this in him. And it was not a weakness of his. 12:50 - And so... - She started reading 12:51 all of the things he did. - Yes! 12:53 Like if he get too close to a women 12:54 - Yes or pass them by just naturally you know. 12:57 - Or smile. - Yes. Or just, you know, 12:59 normal human courteous behavior. - That's right! 13:02 And I can remember as we talked together I asked her 13:05 some basic questions. 13:07 "What has he done?" 13:09 "Has he? You know, is he staying away from home late?" 13:13 "Is he hiding things from you?" 13:14 A lot of these questions. "No, no, no, no, no, no, no!" 13:18 "Really is it a problem?" 13:20 "He's given you no evidence that this is 13:24 a weakness of his!" 13:25 And in reality it was her weakness. 13:28 She had the weakness, she was looking at other men on the side 13:33 And she projected that weakness unto him. 13:35 That's right! 13:36 And he became suspect to her. 13:38 It wasn't even a real fault! 13:40 And she didn't even realized it was her own weakness 13:42 until we had that discussion. 13:44 So, we have to evaluate and bring it to it's core. 13:49 to the root of the problem. - That's right! 13:50 And that's how we saw. We have to get to the root 13:53 to root the problem out. 13:55 To can lop up the fruit on the top of the surface. 13:58 That's right! And I wanna just for a moment back up 14:01 to that term you brought up: projection. 14:05 This is something we've seen many times in our counseling. 14:08 And I think it's something that 14:10 you, the viewing audience need to think about. 14:14 Husbands, wives, 14:16 are you taking things that, 14:18 in this case that we just shared, this lady 14:21 was taking things that were out of her past, 14:23 her own insecurities and things that we don't need to get into 14:27 here, but she was projecting that unto her husband. 14:31 He was not doing these things. 14:34 And I just wanna encourage you as we talk about this 14:37 to be able to separate what are real faults. 14:41 And what are the ones that are just perceived 14:44 and that we're actually 14:45 projecting out of our own weakness. 14:47 When we come back, in just a moment 14:49 stay with us because we're gonna talk about 14:52 what we do, when the faults are real. 14:55 And how we get passed those faults! 15:02 There are many "How to?" books available, 15:04 but there's one that's free and perfect for every couple: 15:07 how you can "Build a Better Marriage". 15:10 Bible-based, matrimonial advice is given in a lighthearted, 15:14 easy-to-read manner, for those contemplating marriage, 15:16 newlyweds, couples in their golden years, 15:19 and everyone in-between. 15:21 Simply call or write for your free copy 15:23 of this amazing little booklet, a handy little tool 15:26 to help build a better marriage. 15:33 Welcome back! Where we're talking about 15:36 the Grave for Faults. 15:39 Each other's faults. 15:41 It's not to be put out there! 15:43 It's not to be stuffed down, 15:46 while it's still alive! 15:47 A grave is a place for things that are dead! 15:51 And we were talking about 15:53 what if I think my wife has a fault? 15:56 And the reality of it is: I'm just projecting some of my 15:59 own weaknesses and trying to blame her 16:01 and it's not her fault at all! 16:03 And now, we wanna talk about: 16:05 if the fault is real! 16:08 How do we know if the fault is real? 16:11 We have to really evaluate it in our own heart, right? 16:13 And that happens through communication between 16:15 one and other. - That's right! 16:17 First of all identify it! 16:19 And then talk about it! Is it exaggerated? 16:22 'Cause sometimes we've identified little faults 16:24 in each other that we've been able to talk about, 16:27 but in the person perceiving it it's much more exaggerated. 16:31 And it's out of perspective. 16:34 But by being able to talk about it we bring it into 16:36 a real level of a weakness. 16:40 Not an exaggerated. So that's important when we identify 16:44 that the weakness or the fault is real. 16:46 That we exaggerate it, to make it bigger than it is. 16:51 We have enough challenge to deal with them when 16:54 they're little. So let's not make our work harder 16:56 in our marriages. 16:57 That's right! 16:58 You know, you hit on something that's very important. 17:01 It's very obvious! But it's lacking in many marriages today! 17:06 And that is: we need to be able to communicate about these 17:09 things. 17:10 And we're not gonna be able to communicate very well if 17:12 we're not in a safe environment, 17:13 which is what we were talking about earlier. 17:16 If we're not in a safe environment, within our home, 17:18 in a sheltering love environment. 17:21 And I remember a couple that called me and they were 17:26 right on the verge. In fact the lady had gone to 17:30 an attorney, 17:32 and was 17:34 ready to proceed with a divorce filing. 17:38 And 17:39 I picked up the phone one day and 17:41 I now you remember the story very well, but I 17:44 picked up the phone one day and 17:45 this lady is on the other end and she said: 17:48 "I know what your ministry does. I know you work 17:51 in restoring marriages and families". And 17:55 she said: "I went to a divorce attorney. " 17:59 But she said: "As I was there I just had this prompting 18:04 that I needed to give our marriage one more chance. " 18:07 And she said: "So, I'm calling you!" 18:10 And: "I wanna give God one more chance!" 18:13 Well, that's a pretty heavy responsibility, isn't it? 18:15 Yes! Very heavy! 18:17 And that's why in these situations we are always praying 18:21 As we proceed in a conversation like this. 18:24 Well, 18:25 I had the opportunity to begin counseling with this couple. 18:31 The husband and wife were the husband 18:33 was really shocked that this was gonna be happening. 18:36 But, as you know, the reason 18:38 that this husband was shocked is because 18:40 they weren't communicating. He didn't realize how bad it was. 18:44 And I remember, as we talked together, 18:47 on the phone, one of the things that they both identified 18:50 that they hadn't previously, 18:52 because now they hearing each other saying it on the telephone 18:56 They realized that there was a huge 18:59 misperception over a fault. 19:03 That was not really real, it was perceived. 19:05 And I heard the wife say: 19:08 "You mean you haven't felt that way?" 19:10 "Towards me all these years of marriage?" 19:12 He said: "No, I've never felt that way!" 19:15 Well, the problem was: they weren't communicating! 19:17 And the walls had been building up. 19:20 And then as I addressed him on the situation 19:23 and he began to share his perspective, 19:26 it was, there was a total break down! 19:28 there in their communication! 19:30 And over the next few months, 19:32 we were talking together and 19:35 what that wife needed 19:37 more than anything was to know that her husband 19:40 loved her enough to give her at least one afternoon 19:43 and evening 19:45 one afternoon and evening a week. 19:48 That he could commit to her. 19:49 He was very busy! He was very busy in his business. 19:55 And he was very dedicated! 19:56 And it seemed like every time that 19:59 the business called he was ready to go! 20:02 But he wasn't meeting the needs of his wife. 20:05 There, in that phone conversation he made 20:07 that commitment 20:09 to me 20:10 for his wife. 20:12 And you know, it was beautiful to watch 20:13 over the next few weeks as we talked, 20:16 that as he made that commitment 20:17 he would nothing come between that commitment 20:21 for his wife. 20:22 And you know, she began to tell me, in our conversations 20:26 with the three of us, she began to tell me: 20:28 "I know now how much my husband really loves me!" 20:32 "Because not everything else is pushing us apart!" 20:35 And as we continued to talk about the other faults and 20:39 the other weaknesses that were there, 20:40 and some of them were very real, 20:42 but now we had a basis of communication. 20:45 And at the end of three months 20:48 I remember, I'll never forget the day, 20:50 that they were both on the phone and the wife said to me, 20:53 she said: "Can we just do this on an as needed basis?" 20:58 She said: "I have never loved my husband 21:02 as much as I love him now!" 21:04 "Even on our wedding day, I did not love him 21:07 like I love him now!" 21:09 My heart was thrilled! 21:10 Because this was a marriage 21:13 over some very simple faults, 21:15 some of which were misunderstood, 21:18 - Some not real and some real. - That's right! Some, that 21:20 were not real, some that were perceived, 21:22 that they had been dividing 21:24 and their communication had become less and less. 21:26 And to see that marriage come back together 21:29 was a thrill to my soul! 21:32 Because God wants to restore homes! 21:34 And there are people out here today that are listening 21:37 today, that are finding themselves 21:41 with those kind of perceived faults. 21:44 Some of those real faults and those have separated. 21:49 You know, it was interesting, she said to me, 21:52 before she closed that conversation, 21:56 that she was now the happy bride of her husband. 22:01 She was the joyful bride, 22:04 that she had not been in many years in their marriage. 22:07 And was it right on the verge of seeing that marriage destroyed. 22:11 So, sometimes it isn't the major crisis! 22:14 That's right! 22:15 It's many times these faults that go unburied 22:18 they go, undone with, that begin to stack up 22:21 and create the crisis. 22:23 That's right! 22:24 While we try to stuff them down, but they get bigger 22:26 and bigger and bigger because they're growing 22:27 underneath the surface. - Yes! They're no dead! 22:29 - They're not dead! - That's right! 22:30 And we need to learn how to put those things down. 22:32 That's right! 22:33 And that's why our dependence on God is so important. 22:36 When there's a, when I have a 22:39 a difficulty, when I perceive something from you, if I see 22:42 weakness I need to ask God to help me be the one 22:47 to encourage you for change instead of criticizing you 22:50 or putting you down or demean you. 22:53 Even in the way we communicate, can be very demeaning. 22:56 - That's right! - So I need to ask God 22:57 to help me to be the person, the wife the true help meet I can be 23:01 to help you make that change. And you do that for me. 23:04 And then the weaknesses turn into strength. 23:07 - That's right! - And they dissipate. 23:09 And I know that we still have weaknesses 23:10 but sometimes it's hard to even remember them. I mean 23:13 you know, we've challenged ourselves, you know: where are 23:16 where are our weak areas? 23:18 And are we really working with that? 23:20 So, we, each individually, whatever it's the husband 23:23 or the wife have a key responsibility 23:26 in the making the difference. 23:27 The one who recognizes it, rather than complain 23:30 let's turn it in: "let's restore the marriage through that. 23:33 And that's the exciting part. 23:35 If we can convince you 23:39 that if you will take this to the Lord and if you will 23:43 communicate 23:45 and we're gonna spend some time 23:47 - Talking about communication. - Yes several different programs 23:49 on communication! - That's right! 23:50 Because it's vitally important! It's the lack of communication 23:53 that often leads to these misperceptions. 23:56 But if you will take the time to begin to communicate 23:59 if you will allow your 24:02 your faults to be revealed. You know, 24:04 one of the hardest things for either of us 24:07 when we're in the "me focus" 24:09 is to let the other person really express 24:12 the fault! 24:14 And now, I can say this to you as I can say it to my wife 24:18 She can come to me now, not that I always like it, 24:21 not that it always feels good, 24:23 but she can come to me and we can talk about my faults. 24:27 I can go to her and talk about her faults. 24:30 Because we know, that at the end of it we're gonna be better. 24:33 We're gonna have a better marriage! 24:34 That's right! 24:35 And the openness to do that, not to come to criticize but 24:39 to come to encourage and to restore. That's the key 24:43 - That's right! - In facing these weaknesses 24:45 that we each have. 24:47 So that's really the challenge that we have for them. 24:51 Is that they would be willing 24:53 not just hearing us, but that you would be willing 24:56 to really, honestly allow your wife or your husband 25:00 to come to you! 25:01 Allow, for that communication that can happen! 25:05 So, the weaknesses that we see, they can be real. 25:09 But, how we respond to them is the key! 25:13 And if each one of us 25:16 if each one of you 25:18 would let your heart be the grave yard for those faults 25:22 you will see a difference in your marriage. 25:24 And it doesn't have to take weeks and months and years! 25:27 You're gonna see the difference in days! 25:29 Sometimes in an hour! 25:31 It's incredible to see the difference! 25:33 That's right! 25:34 So what's their challenge? 25:36 Well, the challenge that all of us have: 25:40 Let's find out if they're real! 25:41 - That's right! - Ok? 25:43 Let's be honest! And the place to find out if they're real 25:46 is not just by my perception. 25:49 - It's on our knees! - It's on our knees 25:50 before the Lord! We need to find out: 25:52 Is this really real? 25:54 And if it is real? 25:56 We find out that it's real, we need to start praying. 26:00 Not to change my wife! 26:02 Now, we can do that! But I wanna suggest to you 26:05 that where we need to start praying first is Lord! 26:08 We need to see this buried! 26:10 Not buried alive! This needs to be buried: 26:12 "Give me that real forgiveness, 26:15 and let it be buried in my heart!" 26:17 Because if it's buried there dead, 26:20 than I'm gonna have the best opportunity of helping 26:23 you to work through that real fault that's there. 26:25 That's right! 26:27 So, if we need God to help us with this, than maybe we can 26:31 turn to God right now, 26:33 as we close! Do you wanna close in prayer honey? 26:35 Sure! 26:38 Father, we're thankful that You do have a 26:40 forgiving Spirit towards us. 26:42 And that You remember our sins no more. 26:46 And help us as husbands and wives 26:48 that we too can give our spouse 26:55 that part of our heart that will 26:56 bury those faults and weaknesses 26:58 to be remembered no more. 27:00 And if they're real Lord, help us to be 27:01 the instrument in Your Hands 27:03 to strengthen and to uplift and to change! 27:07 And we believe that this can be done. 27:08 Because You are the God of all flesh 27:10 and there is nothing to hard for You and we thank you 27:14 for Your willingness! In Jesus name Amen! 27:16 Amen! 27:19 Well, we've got another exciting subject, 27:23 next time we get together! 27:25 Building a Foundation! 27:27 We've had to build that foundation, haven't we? 27:30 We've built the first one that wasn't very strong! 27:32 - That's right! - The second one has 27:33 withstood tempests and trials! - That's right! 27:36 Building a sure foundation! 27:39 And we're gonna find out how we build that, 27:42 next time we're together! |
Revised 2014-12-17