Welcome to Marriage Heart to Heart 00:00:33.02\00:00:35.03 We are Tom & Alane Waters with Restoration International 00:00:35.07\00:00:38.61 Today we're going to be talking about the Grave for Faults. 00:00:39.46\00:00:41.93 So we hope you have your pencil and paper ready 00:00:41.96\00:00:43.98 as we begin this interesting topic today. 00:00:44.52\00:00:46.93 You know, one of the greatest curses that face marriages 00:00:47.76\00:00:51.76 and that destroys communication 00:00:51.79\00:00:54.54 is complaining, 00:00:55.07\00:00:56.24 fault finding, 00:00:57.33\00:00:58.30 and gossip. 00:00:59.23\00:01:00.22 It's terrible! 00:01:01.17\00:01:02.14 What are we gonna do about it dear? 00:01:03.46\00:01:04.90 That's a good question! 00:01:05.92\00:01:07.34 And I think it's a problem that a lot of marriages experience 00:01:07.91\00:01:10.64 is this fault finding and criticism, 00:01:10.67\00:01:12.24 - That's right! - And complaining. 00:01:12.27\00:01:13.81 And it's a problem that I had, I know for a period of time. 00:01:14.39\00:01:17.43 And it really didn't help us at all! 00:01:17.98\00:01:20.63 It only hurt us in our relationship. 00:01:21.02\00:01:22.72 Well, and I think it happens with men 00:01:23.15\00:01:25.94 maybe differently than it does with women. 00:01:25.98\00:01:28.53 But I know that there was criticisms, I was finding faults 00:01:28.98\00:01:33.17 And I think the difference, at least in our situation is that 00:01:33.99\00:01:37.57 there was somebody that you started sharing some of that and 00:01:38.51\00:01:42.96 you told me it was kind of to get some sympathy. 00:01:44.15\00:01:46.32 Yes! I think the difference between you and I is that 00:01:47.00\00:01:49.98 you shared your criticisms with me. 00:01:50.01\00:01:52.05 Which is where they should've been shared! 00:01:52.09\00:01:53.88 Even though they may not have been shared in the right spirit. 00:01:54.33\00:01:56.39 And I tended to share with this one particular friend. 00:01:56.42\00:01:59.99 You know some of my discontents or my disappointments. 00:02:00.79\00:02:03.70 And that really didn't help me because I had no balancing 00:02:04.17\00:02:07.38 person on the other side. 00:02:08.63\00:02:10.35 It was only here in my side 00:02:10.39\00:02:12.08 of the issue. 00:02:12.89\00:02:13.86 And it didn't help me to resolve things. 00:02:13.91\00:02:15.55 What I saw happening as I started focusing in this areas, 00:02:16.05\00:02:19.72 that became, that started little, that became bigger 00:02:20.24\00:02:23.05 and bigger and pretty soon that's what I started seeing 00:02:23.08\00:02:25.86 in you and that's what you started becoming to me. 00:02:25.89\00:02:28.26 And it was 00:02:28.95\00:02:30.83 quite a scary thing. 00:02:30.87\00:02:32.50 So, it doesn't sound like a really good friend! 00:02:33.48\00:02:36.29 Because, from what I understood, 00:02:36.73\00:02:39.11 she was actually drawing some of this stuff. 00:02:40.06\00:02:42.67 Trying to.. -Well I didn't see that at first 00:02:43.06\00:02:46.29 but I remember once, in my personal study time, 00:02:46.32\00:02:49.38 that I had come across something "that the wives 00:02:49.42\00:02:52.60 heart should be the grave for her husbands faults" 00:02:52.64\00:02:55.79 Sounds good for me. 00:02:55.82\00:02:57.04 Yes! Not only for you! It's really good for both of us. 00:02:57.08\00:02:59.29 That's right! 00:02:59.32\00:03:00.29 My heart needed to be the grave for your faults. 00:03:00.34\00:03:02.72 None of us are perfect! 00:03:03.25\00:03:04.54 And there's always gonna be little things 00:03:05.03\00:03:06.78 that crop up weaknesses or areas of difficulty 00:03:06.82\00:03:12.59 that can crop up. - Yes! 00:03:12.62\00:03:13.89 And if that becomes our focus that changes 00:03:13.93\00:03:16.57 the whole relationship! 00:03:16.60\00:03:18.09 And so, when I read that, it's like the Lord stepped 00:03:18.65\00:03:21.48 right on my toes with that! 00:03:21.51\00:03:22.89 And it's just what I needed to hear! 00:03:23.27\00:03:24.85 And I remember the next time we got together 00:03:25.81\00:03:28.47 I was determined, I was going to let my heart be 00:03:28.50\00:03:31.13 the grave for your faults. 00:03:31.16\00:03:32.38 Because in reality the faults weren't as big as I had 00:03:32.70\00:03:35.03 made them out to be. 00:03:35.06\00:03:36.22 And I can remember right where we were standing in the kitchen 00:03:36.69\00:03:38.96 and she started asking me because I wasn't volunteering 00:03:39.43\00:03:42.25 this time any information. She was asking me questions: 00:03:42.28\00:03:45.07 "Well, how is it with Tom?" 00:03:45.10\00:03:46.37 And I said to her: "I have no complaints!" I said that: 00:03:46.82\00:03:49.27 "The Lord is changing him" 00:03:49.30\00:03:50.76 "The things that he struggles with in the past 00:03:51.36\00:03:53.56 those aren't issues with him anymore!" 00:03:53.59\00:03:55.61 And I can remember her coming back around and saying: 00:03:56.47\00:03:59.15 well, you know: "What about this, and what about that?" 00:03:59.18\00:04:01.79 and I said:"Really, this isn't a weakness that he had, and I 00:04:01.83\00:04:05.10 took responsibility for my part. " 00:04:05.13\00:04:07.21 Even though she wanted to dig a little bit, 00:04:07.46\00:04:09.36 I didn't wanna go there. 00:04:09.39\00:04:10.87 And I saw the difference that made in my heart. 00:04:11.28\00:04:14.50 And that is what began to change me and convince me 00:04:14.54\00:04:17.87 that this needed to be very much a part of who I am 00:04:17.90\00:04:21.20 for you in our marriage, 00:04:21.23\00:04:22.52 to protect our marriage. 00:04:22.56\00:04:23.82 That was a blessing to me, when I realized the position 00:04:24.87\00:04:28.41 that you had taken on that. 00:04:28.44\00:04:29.59 I mean it was a comfort to me, 00:04:30.03\00:04:31.71 because it says in Proverbs 31: 00:04:32.40\00:04:35.76 "The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her" 00:04:35.80\00:04:40.93 Now, this was an area that was a little difficult. 00:04:41.79\00:04:43.58 Some times I didn't know what, you were gonna be talking about 00:04:43.62\00:04:46.55 in that situation. 00:04:46.92\00:04:48.15 And so, you were willing, for my sake 00:04:48.63\00:04:52.01 and for the sake of our marriage, 00:04:52.04\00:04:53.41 to make the faults that I had, 00:04:53.92\00:04:56.62 some of them you had turned in to bigger than they were, 00:04:57.48\00:04:59.92 some of those little, - That's right! 00:04:59.95\00:05:02.42 things. But I believe that by doing that 00:05:02.46\00:05:04.90 you created an environment where 00:05:05.49\00:05:07.65 I could safely trust in you. 00:05:07.96\00:05:09.63 And I've always been able to safely trust in you 00:05:09.67\00:05:12.33 since that time. 00:05:12.36\00:05:13.33 And that's the way it should be in our marriage. 00:05:13.86\00:05:15.86 And I want that because I wanna create that environment 00:05:15.90\00:05:19.16 that you can trust in me. And I have no complaints. 00:05:19.19\00:05:22.42 And if there's anything that I don't like, you're the first one 00:05:22.87\00:05:26.57 that I will come to with. 00:05:26.60\00:05:27.93 And that's the way it should be. 00:05:28.20\00:05:29.42 And not to focus on those little weaknesses because 00:05:29.82\00:05:32.42 we all have them. 00:05:32.45\00:05:33.58 I think that we men can help facilitate this if we want 00:05:34.04\00:05:39.44 to have our wife be someone we can safely trust in. 00:05:39.98\00:05:43.46 Than I think we need to play a part in that because 00:05:43.50\00:05:46.95 we need to be able to communicate together. 00:05:47.51\00:05:49.13 Isn't that right? - That's right! 00:05:49.51\00:05:50.54 If there are things that are happening, 00:05:50.58\00:05:52.33 if I don't want those to turn into mountains, 00:05:52.87\00:05:54.98 if I wanna keep them as they are, some of are... 00:05:55.91\00:05:58.28 it's the little things. We've talked about that before. 00:05:58.72\00:06:00.79 Than we need to be able to communicate. 00:06:01.39\00:06:03.41 You need to be able to talk to me about it. 00:06:03.84\00:06:05.83 We need to be able to sit down and look at some of these things 00:06:05.87\00:06:08.54 That I think, we as husbands can do to help our wife 00:06:08.57\00:06:12.65 in that situation. So if we want her to bury those things and 00:06:12.69\00:06:17.19 we want her heart to be the grave for our faults 00:06:17.22\00:06:20.13 we need to be able to work through those things together. 00:06:20.17\00:06:22.14 That's right! 00:06:22.17\00:06:23.14 And to change those things where we are 00:06:23.15\00:06:25.03 - That's right! - what we can do. 00:06:25.06\00:06:26.12 Is not that we just stuff them under you know, we bury them. 00:06:26.21\00:06:29.03 Anything that's buried goes down dead. And that's 00:06:29.06\00:06:31.33 a very important part. Many people think 00:06:31.36\00:06:33.29 they're burying these issues, 00:06:33.32\00:06:34.85 and they're just stuffing them down alive and they and 00:06:35.19\00:06:36.84 they keep erupting - That's right! 00:06:36.87\00:06:38.17 in the relationship. 00:06:38.20\00:06:39.37 We need to bury them and they can only go down dead, 00:06:39.63\00:06:42.83 if we allow Christ to crucify those feelings 00:06:42.86\00:06:45.44 and those thoughts in ourselves. 00:06:45.47\00:06:47.06 Then they can be put to the grave and really be dead. 00:06:47.10\00:06:49.63 And then the areas that are real, then help each other 00:06:50.07\00:06:53.38 to grow in, that we can strengthen those weaknesses 00:06:53.42\00:06:56.70 and change. 00:06:56.73\00:06:58.28 That's right! 00:06:58.40\00:06:59.37 And I think it works both ways it isn't just something 00:06:59.71\00:07:02.12 I know you read this but 00:07:02.15\00:07:03.92 it also applies to the husband as well. 00:07:04.65\00:07:06.91 Husbands it really does apply to us that 00:07:07.77\00:07:10.97 our hearts should be the grave of our wives faults as well. 00:07:12.00\00:07:16.60 Because what it does: it creates an environment in the home: 00:07:17.06\00:07:19.78 a safe trusting environment. 00:07:19.81\00:07:21.89 Where we can.. 00:07:22.44\00:07:23.41 we're honoring each other. 00:07:24.17\00:07:25.42 There's no reason, that her people have to be involved 00:07:26.72\00:07:29.63 and a lot of the petty things that husbands and wives 00:07:29.66\00:07:32.54 end up sharing outside of the Sacred Circle. 00:07:32.57\00:07:35.18 And as you said a moment ago, it isn't just a matter of 00:07:36.04\00:07:39.76 you just keep being that way or I just keep being this way 00:07:40.31\00:07:42.39 and we just stuff it down and we 00:07:42.42\00:07:44.34 you know say: "Well, we gotta bury it!" 00:07:44.38\00:07:46.33 "Now it's gotta be buried! 00:07:46.36\00:07:47.82 Dead!" 00:07:48.48\00:07:49.45 Ok? 00:07:49.75\00:07:50.72 And it wont be buried dead if we keep it alive! 00:07:50.80\00:07:54.22 An it won't be buried dead if we don't work through it, 00:07:54.26\00:07:57.17 in our hearts. 00:07:57.68\00:07:58.65 That's right! So, when we go back again to 1 Corinthians 13 00:07:59.78\00:08:04.19 it talks about what love will do. This divine love that God 00:08:04.70\00:08:07.86 wants to put in our hearts. 00:08:07.89\00:08:09.21 It changes who we are! It changes our relationship! 00:08:09.24\00:08:12.91 It changes how we treat each other! 00:08:12.94\00:08:14.55 That's right! 00:08:14.58\00:08:15.55 And it improves our relationship 00:08:15.56\00:08:17.06 as husband and wife. 00:08:17.09\00:08:18.06 It sure has! 00:08:18.07\00:08:19.04 Definitely has! 00:08:19.77\00:08:20.74 You know, it creates a sheltering love. 00:08:20.75\00:08:24.07 You know, when you think about, 00:08:24.74\00:08:25.92 isn't it a nice thought? I mean think about that, 00:08:26.28\00:08:29.01 Friends, as a sheltering love. It's a safe place for us 00:08:29.05\00:08:32.82 to be together 00:08:32.85\00:08:33.82 in our relationship! 00:08:34.25\00:08:35.31 And that's the kind of environment 00:08:35.35\00:08:36.79 that we've created in the home. 00:08:36.83\00:08:38.20 Does that mean that I don't have anymore faults? 00:08:38.24\00:08:41.25 No! Neither do I! 00:08:42.45\00:08:43.47 I mean, I also have a few too! 00:08:44.12\00:08:45.53 So it doesn't mean that suddenly all the faults had gone away. 00:08:46.50\00:08:49.18 But, what makes he difference is 00:08:49.94\00:08:51.59 the environment that we deal with those faults in. 00:08:52.24\00:08:54.94 I'm convinced that I can come to you 00:08:55.39\00:08:58.48 and I can talk to you about the things that are bothering you, 00:08:59.06\00:09:01.38 the things that are chafing or agitating to me. 00:09:01.41\00:09:04.42 You can come to me! 00:09:04.45\00:09:05.79 That sheltering love that 1 Corinthians love that bears 00:09:06.26\00:09:10.61 that believes, that hopes and endures all things, 00:09:10.64\00:09:13.69 that kind of love creates a sheltering love environment 00:09:14.15\00:09:18.26 for growing. And prepares the way. 00:09:18.74\00:09:21.67 And prepares our hearts, if I can say this. 00:09:21.71\00:09:23.91 It prepares our hearts to be a good burial ground 00:09:23.95\00:09:27.89 for the faults 00:09:27.92\00:09:28.89 of the one we love! 00:09:28.90\00:09:30.02 So, I think there are two important points that we need 00:09:30.89\00:09:32.94 to bring out in this: our heart being the grave 00:09:32.97\00:09:35.83 for our spouses faults. And the first thing is: 00:09:35.86\00:09:38.69 Is the fault even real? 00:09:38.84\00:09:40.56 Because many of the situations that couples face, 00:09:41.33\00:09:44.29 and some of these were in my own experience. 00:09:44.32\00:09:46.56 What I was seeing as a weakness, 00:09:47.02\00:09:48.88 really wasn't a weakness at all. 00:09:48.92\00:09:50.71 Is just something that you did differently than I did. 00:09:50.75\00:09:53.62 And I didn't understand why you did it the way you did it, 00:09:54.13\00:09:56.92 and I wanted you to do it my way, therefore I saw it 00:09:56.95\00:09:59.31 as a fault for you or as a weakness. 00:09:59.34\00:10:01.44 - That's right! - So, is it even real? 00:10:01.48\00:10:03.55 We have to determine: Is this a real problem? 00:10:03.97\00:10:06.94 Well, I think one of the things and.. 00:10:07.61\00:10:09.14 It happened particularly early in our marriage. 00:10:10.94\00:10:13.57 One of the things that would happen when I had my list 00:10:14.05\00:10:17.33 of things to do, 00:10:17.36\00:10:18.33 it wasn't a really organized list, 00:10:19.43\00:10:20.95 I've learned a lot of organization skills 00:10:21.75\00:10:23.54 in our marriage together. 00:10:24.03\00:10:25.22 And, you know, that was an irritation to you some times. 00:10:25.76\00:10:30.07 Because I'd take my list and I'd go to town 00:10:31.17\00:10:34.33 and it would take me a lot longer to get things done 00:10:34.37\00:10:36.69 because I wasn't organized very well. 00:10:36.72\00:10:38.94 And yet, that faults, you were very gracious to me 00:10:39.43\00:10:43.87 in that fault but I didn't like how you tried to help me. 00:10:43.91\00:10:47.92 Do you remember that? 00:10:47.95\00:10:48.92 Because instead of taking your strength and my weakness 00:10:50.27\00:10:53.17 and combining that, that's what we're doing now, 00:10:53.20\00:10:54.95 in every area of our marriage. 00:10:54.98\00:10:56.61 Because it's exciting. And I think you folks need to realize 00:10:57.34\00:11:00.82 that it's exciting when we take the things that 00:11:01.24\00:11:04.60 are weaknesses, or are faults, or things that we differ on 00:11:05.04\00:11:08.50 and we can blend them together. 00:11:08.53\00:11:10.48 Because now, 00:11:10.94\00:11:11.91 how do I do when I 00:11:12.43\00:11:13.54 have to take care of things? - You're very organized. 00:11:14.40\00:11:16.59 Very organized. 00:11:16.62\00:11:17.90 But I've learned a lot of that in working together 00:11:17.94\00:11:20.11 in our marriage. 00:11:20.14\00:11:21.11 But back in the early days, 00:11:21.38\00:11:22.75 I'd say things like: "Stay out of my business!" 00:11:23.58\00:11:26.69 You know: "I can do this myself!" Right? 00:11:26.72\00:11:29.19 Yes! 00:11:29.22\00:11:30.19 And I viewed your strength, 00:11:30.33\00:11:33.07 as a fault! 00:11:33.10\00:11:34.34 It wasn't really a fault! 00:11:35.35\00:11:36.70 It's not something that I really needed to bury. 00:11:37.48\00:11:39.67 I had a fault! 00:11:40.04\00:11:41.07 And you were trying to help me in that fault. 00:11:41.93\00:11:43.71 And you were doing it in a very nice way, 00:11:43.75\00:11:45.46 trying to offer to me. And it wasn't until we started 00:11:45.50\00:11:48.65 understanding how to communicate better and how 00:11:48.68\00:11:51.24 to give these things to the Lord, 00:11:51.27\00:11:52.76 that now we take those strengths and weaknesses 00:11:53.21\00:11:55.88 and we blend them together. 00:11:55.91\00:11:57.14 And I used to just give you my list. 00:11:57.95\00:12:01.35 That was kind of a transition point. 00:12:01.70\00:12:03.34 I'd say: "You take it!" 00:12:03.37\00:12:04.49 - "And organize it for me!" - "Organize it for me!" 00:12:04.97\00:12:06.74 "Rather than fight over it. " 00:12:07.47\00:12:08.70 Now, I don't even need to give you my list. 00:12:10.28\00:12:12.46 'Cause I've learned! It's been a blessing. 00:12:12.97\00:12:15.01 And so, is it real faults? 00:12:15.67\00:12:17.72 Many times it isn't a real fault I remember that experience 00:12:18.27\00:12:22.48 of the couple that we were talking to just recently. 00:12:22.51\00:12:25.16 And it wasn't. The things she was trying to deal with 00:12:25.68\00:12:28.73 on her husband they weren't real, were they? 00:12:28.76\00:12:30.65 That's right! 00:12:30.68\00:12:31.65 She felt that her husband was always interested 00:12:31.89\00:12:34.40 in other women. 00:12:34.43\00:12:35.40 That's right! 00:12:35.41\00:12:36.38 You know, any what time they would be anywhere in public 00:12:36.39\00:12:38.21 and she would see, you know 00:12:38.24\00:12:39.71 they were the other women around, she was concerned that 00:12:39.75\00:12:42.04 he had eyes for other women. - That's right! 00:12:42.44\00:12:44.77 And it became so real to her that she started 00:12:44.81\00:12:47.11 seeing this in him. And it was not a weakness of his. 00:12:47.51\00:12:50.03 - And so... - She started reading 00:12:50.46\00:12:51.72 all of the things he did. - Yes! 00:12:51.76\00:12:52.99 Like if he get too close to a women 00:12:53.02\00:12:54.93 - Yes or pass them by just naturally you know. 00:12:54.96\00:12:57.04 - Or smile. - Yes. Or just, you know, 00:12:57.07\00:12:59.12 normal human courteous behavior. - That's right! 00:12:59.16\00:13:02.18 And I can remember as we talked together I asked her 00:13:02.86\00:13:05.23 some basic questions. 00:13:05.26\00:13:06.63 "What has he done?" 00:13:07.04\00:13:08.36 "Has he? You know, is he staying away from home late?" 00:13:09.00\00:13:12.98 "Is he hiding things from you?" 00:13:13.01\00:13:14.89 A lot of these questions. "No, no, no, no, no, no, no!" 00:13:14.93\00:13:18.27 "Really is it a problem?" 00:13:18.75\00:13:20.94 "He's given you no evidence that this is 00:13:20.98\00:13:24.08 a weakness of his!" 00:13:24.11\00:13:25.31 And in reality it was her weakness. 00:13:25.76\00:13:27.95 She had the weakness, she was looking at other men on the side 00:13:28.43\00:13:32.57 And she projected that weakness unto him. 00:13:33.47\00:13:35.78 That's right! 00:13:35.81\00:13:36.78 And he became suspect to her. 00:13:36.79\00:13:38.04 It wasn't even a real fault! 00:13:38.54\00:13:40.10 And she didn't even realized it was her own weakness 00:13:40.14\00:13:42.37 until we had that discussion. 00:13:42.40\00:13:43.83 So, we have to evaluate and bring it to it's core. 00:13:44.53\00:13:49.54 to the root of the problem. - That's right! 00:13:49.57\00:13:50.81 And that's how we saw. We have to get to the root 00:13:50.85\00:13:53.14 to root the problem out. 00:13:53.17\00:13:54.80 To can lop up the fruit on the top of the surface. 00:13:55.24\00:13:58.42 That's right! And I wanna just for a moment back up 00:13:58.46\00:14:01.61 to that term you brought up: projection. 00:14:01.64\00:14:04.31 This is something we've seen many times in our counseling. 00:14:05.20\00:14:08.50 And I think it's something that 00:14:08.53\00:14:09.99 you, the viewing audience need to think about. 00:14:10.61\00:14:13.90 Husbands, wives, 00:14:14.18\00:14:15.79 are you taking things that, 00:14:16.86\00:14:18.71 in this case that we just shared, this lady 00:14:18.75\00:14:21.17 was taking things that were out of her past, 00:14:21.21\00:14:23.56 her own insecurities and things that we don't need to get into 00:14:23.60\00:14:27.73 here, but she was projecting that unto her husband. 00:14:27.76\00:14:31.00 He was not doing these things. 00:14:31.51\00:14:33.82 And I just wanna encourage you as we talk about this 00:14:34.05\00:14:36.63 to be able to separate what are real faults. 00:14:37.15\00:14:40.51 And what are the ones that are just perceived 00:14:41.35\00:14:44.01 and that we're actually 00:14:44.04\00:14:45.13 projecting out of our own weakness. 00:14:45.47\00:14:46.98 When we come back, in just a moment 00:14:47.69\00:14:49.68 stay with us because we're gonna talk about 00:14:49.72\00:14:51.60 what we do, when the faults are real. 00:14:52.34\00:14:54.67 And how we get passed those faults! 00:14:55.16\00:14:57.39 There are many "How to?" books available, 00:15:02.33\00:15:04.23 but there's one that's free and perfect for every couple: 00:15:04.27\00:15:07.49 how you can "Build a Better Marriage". 00:15:07.52\00:15:09.95 Bible-based, matrimonial advice is given in a lighthearted, 00:15:10.78\00:15:14.10 easy-to-read manner, for those contemplating marriage, 00:15:14.13\00:15:16.71 newlyweds, couples in their golden years, 00:15:16.74\00:15:19.57 and everyone in-between. 00:15:19.60\00:15:21.17 Simply call or write for your free copy 00:15:21.65\00:15:23.45 of this amazing little booklet, a handy little tool 00:15:23.48\00:15:26.69 to help build a better marriage. 00:15:26.72\00:15:28.40 Welcome back! Where we're talking about 00:15:33.44\00:15:35.92 the Grave for Faults. 00:15:36.53\00:15:38.30 Each other's faults. 00:15:39.19\00:15:40.30 It's not to be put out there! 00:15:41.29\00:15:43.02 It's not to be stuffed down, 00:15:43.80\00:15:46.04 while it's still alive! 00:15:46.07\00:15:47.52 A grave is a place for things that are dead! 00:15:47.56\00:15:50.45 And we were talking about 00:15:51.33\00:15:52.71 what if I think my wife has a fault? 00:15:53.20\00:15:55.88 And the reality of it is: I'm just projecting some of my 00:15:56.63\00:15:59.40 own weaknesses and trying to blame her 00:15:59.43\00:16:01.72 and it's not her fault at all! 00:16:01.75\00:16:02.99 And now, we wanna talk about: 00:16:03.78\00:16:05.05 if the fault is real! 00:16:05.80\00:16:06.90 How do we know if the fault is real? 00:16:08.94\00:16:10.67 We have to really evaluate it in our own heart, right? 00:16:11.27\00:16:13.66 And that happens through communication between 00:16:13.69\00:16:15.90 one and other. - That's right! 00:16:15.93\00:16:17.33 First of all identify it! 00:16:17.51\00:16:19.16 And then talk about it! Is it exaggerated? 00:16:19.59\00:16:22.44 'Cause sometimes we've identified little faults 00:16:22.48\00:16:24.89 in each other that we've been able to talk about, 00:16:24.93\00:16:27.27 but in the person perceiving it it's much more exaggerated. 00:16:27.31\00:16:30.99 And it's out of perspective. 00:16:31.46\00:16:33.58 But by being able to talk about it we bring it into 00:16:34.07\00:16:36.70 a real level of a weakness. 00:16:36.73\00:16:40.52 Not an exaggerated. So that's important when we identify 00:16:40.56\00:16:44.13 that the weakness or the fault is real. 00:16:44.16\00:16:46.11 That we exaggerate it, to make it bigger than it is. 00:16:46.57\00:16:51.74 We have enough challenge to deal with them when 00:16:51.77\00:16:54.03 they're little. So let's not make our work harder 00:16:54.07\00:16:56.30 in our marriages. 00:16:56.33\00:16:57.30 That's right! 00:16:57.31\00:16:58.28 You know, you hit on something that's very important. 00:16:58.44\00:17:01.24 It's very obvious! But it's lacking in many marriages today! 00:17:01.58\00:17:06.29 And that is: we need to be able to communicate about these 00:17:06.98\00:17:08.98 things. 00:17:09.01\00:17:09.98 And we're not gonna be able to communicate very well if 00:17:10.06\00:17:12.33 we're not in a safe environment, 00:17:12.36\00:17:13.88 which is what we were talking about earlier. 00:17:13.92\00:17:16.05 If we're not in a safe environment, within our home, 00:17:16.09\00:17:18.64 in a sheltering love environment. 00:17:18.99\00:17:20.93 And I remember a couple that called me and they were 00:17:21.86\00:17:26.47 right on the verge. In fact the lady had gone to 00:17:26.96\00:17:30.66 an attorney, 00:17:30.69\00:17:31.66 and was 00:17:32.26\00:17:33.23 ready to proceed with a divorce filing. 00:17:34.69\00:17:37.52 And 00:17:38.37\00:17:39.34 I picked up the phone one day and 00:17:39.82\00:17:41.57 I now you remember the story very well, but I 00:17:41.61\00:17:43.99 picked up the phone one day and 00:17:44.02\00:17:45.33 this lady is on the other end and she said: 00:17:45.72\00:17:48.17 "I know what your ministry does. I know you work 00:17:48.71\00:17:51.91 in restoring marriages and families". And 00:17:51.94\00:17:54.75 she said: "I went to a divorce attorney. " 00:17:55.16\00:17:59.73 But she said: "As I was there I just had this prompting 00:17:59.76\00:18:03.22 that I needed to give our marriage one more chance. " 00:18:04.08\00:18:07.53 And she said: "So, I'm calling you!" 00:18:07.56\00:18:10.24 And: "I wanna give God one more chance!" 00:18:10.76\00:18:13.15 Well, that's a pretty heavy responsibility, isn't it? 00:18:13.19\00:18:15.59 Yes! Very heavy! 00:18:15.62\00:18:17.02 And that's why in these situations we are always praying 00:18:17.45\00:18:21.13 As we proceed in a conversation like this. 00:18:21.72\00:18:24.07 Well, 00:18:24.64\00:18:25.61 I had the opportunity to begin counseling with this couple. 00:18:25.69\00:18:30.51 The husband and wife were the husband 00:18:31.03\00:18:32.97 was really shocked that this was gonna be happening. 00:18:33.01\00:18:35.62 But, as you know, the reason 00:18:36.32\00:18:38.69 that this husband was shocked is because 00:18:38.73\00:18:40.80 they weren't communicating. He didn't realize how bad it was. 00:18:40.83\00:18:43.99 And I remember, as we talked together, 00:18:44.67\00:18:46.83 on the phone, one of the things that they both identified 00:18:47.35\00:18:50.92 that they hadn't previously, 00:18:50.95\00:18:52.72 because now they hearing each other saying it on the telephone 00:18:52.76\00:18:56.17 They realized that there was a huge 00:18:56.69\00:18:59.33 misperception over a fault. 00:18:59.83\00:19:02.86 That was not really real, it was perceived. 00:19:03.42\00:19:05.41 And I heard the wife say: 00:19:05.86\00:19:07.57 "You mean you haven't felt that way?" 00:19:08.18\00:19:10.31 "Towards me all these years of marriage?" 00:19:10.34\00:19:12.44 He said: "No, I've never felt that way!" 00:19:12.93\00:19:15.08 Well, the problem was: they weren't communicating! 00:19:15.12\00:19:17.31 And the walls had been building up. 00:19:17.74\00:19:19.75 And then as I addressed him on the situation 00:19:20.16\00:19:23.60 and he began to share his perspective, 00:19:23.63\00:19:25.75 it was, there was a total break down! 00:19:26.06\00:19:28.28 there in their communication! 00:19:28.31\00:19:29.98 And over the next few months, 00:19:30.01\00:19:31.65 we were talking together and 00:19:32.36\00:19:34.78 what that wife needed 00:19:35.25\00:19:36.69 more than anything was to know that her husband 00:19:37.19\00:19:40.46 loved her enough to give her at least one afternoon 00:19:40.49\00:19:43.73 and evening 00:19:43.76\00:19:44.73 one afternoon and evening a week. 00:19:45.20\00:19:47.42 That he could commit to her. 00:19:48.15\00:19:49.74 He was very busy! He was very busy in his business. 00:19:49.93\00:19:54.38 And he was very dedicated! 00:19:55.02\00:19:56.78 And it seemed like every time that 00:19:56.82\00:19:59.26 the business called he was ready to go! 00:19:59.29\00:20:02.16 But he wasn't meeting the needs of his wife. 00:20:02.93\00:20:04.94 There, in that phone conversation he made 00:20:05.76\00:20:07.55 that commitment 00:20:07.58\00:20:08.55 to me 00:20:09.27\00:20:10.24 for his wife. 00:20:10.58\00:20:11.61 And you know, it was beautiful to watch 00:20:12.08\00:20:13.88 over the next few weeks as we talked, 00:20:13.92\00:20:15.69 that as he made that commitment 00:20:16.17\00:20:17.71 he would nothing come between that commitment 00:20:17.75\00:20:20.84 for his wife. 00:20:21.72\00:20:22.71 And you know, she began to tell me, in our conversations 00:20:22.75\00:20:26.23 with the three of us, she began to tell me: 00:20:26.26\00:20:27.89 "I know now how much my husband really loves me!" 00:20:28.70\00:20:32.44 "Because not everything else is pushing us apart!" 00:20:32.92\00:20:35.32 And as we continued to talk about the other faults and 00:20:35.68\00:20:39.23 the other weaknesses that were there, 00:20:39.26\00:20:40.95 and some of them were very real, 00:20:40.98\00:20:42.30 but now we had a basis of communication. 00:20:42.68\00:20:44.71 And at the end of three months 00:20:45.21\00:20:47.35 I remember, I'll never forget the day, 00:20:48.48\00:20:50.21 that they were both on the phone and the wife said to me, 00:20:50.62\00:20:52.95 she said: "Can we just do this on an as needed basis?" 00:20:53.83\00:20:58.43 She said: "I have never loved my husband 00:20:58.46\00:21:02.49 as much as I love him now!" 00:21:02.52\00:21:04.08 "Even on our wedding day, I did not love him 00:21:04.51\00:21:07.55 like I love him now!" 00:21:07.58\00:21:09.02 My heart was thrilled! 00:21:09.05\00:21:10.46 Because this was a marriage 00:21:10.85\00:21:12.60 over some very simple faults, 00:21:13.35\00:21:15.85 some of which were misunderstood, 00:21:15.88\00:21:17.56 - Some not real and some real. - That's right! Some, that 00:21:18.35\00:21:20.70 were not real, some that were perceived, 00:21:20.73\00:21:22.74 that they had been dividing 00:21:22.99\00:21:24.22 and their communication had become less and less. 00:21:24.26\00:21:26.21 And to see that marriage come back together 00:21:26.72\00:21:29.39 was a thrill to my soul! 00:21:29.42\00:21:31.58 Because God wants to restore homes! 00:21:32.05\00:21:33.64 And there are people out here today that are listening 00:21:34.06\00:21:36.34 today, that are finding themselves 00:21:37.24\00:21:40.22 with those kind of perceived faults. 00:21:41.21\00:21:43.58 Some of those real faults and those have separated. 00:21:44.55\00:21:48.73 You know, it was interesting, she said to me, 00:21:49.39\00:21:51.72 before she closed that conversation, 00:21:52.28\00:21:55.88 that she was now the happy bride of her husband. 00:21:56.42\00:22:00.86 She was the joyful bride, 00:22:01.58\00:22:04.48 that she had not been in many years in their marriage. 00:22:04.95\00:22:07.38 And was it right on the verge of seeing that marriage destroyed. 00:22:07.42\00:22:11.27 So, sometimes it isn't the major crisis! 00:22:11.81\00:22:14.72 That's right! 00:22:14.75\00:22:15.72 It's many times these faults that go unburied 00:22:15.73\00:22:18.24 they go, undone with, that begin to stack up 00:22:18.28\00:22:21.10 and create the crisis. 00:22:21.68\00:22:22.97 That's right! 00:22:23.00\00:22:23.97 While we try to stuff them down, but they get bigger 00:22:23.98\00:22:26.29 and bigger and bigger because they're growing 00:22:26.32\00:22:27.70 underneath the surface. - Yes! They're no dead! 00:22:27.73\00:22:29.08 - They're not dead! - That's right! 00:22:29.11\00:22:30.46 And we need to learn how to put those things down. 00:22:30.50\00:22:32.80 That's right! 00:22:32.83\00:22:33.80 And that's why our dependence on God is so important. 00:22:33.81\00:22:35.81 When there's a, when I have a 00:22:36.29\00:22:39.06 a difficulty, when I perceive something from you, if I see 00:22:39.49\00:22:42.82 weakness I need to ask God to help me be the one 00:22:42.85\00:22:46.70 to encourage you for change instead of criticizing you 00:22:47.04\00:22:50.43 or putting you down or demean you. 00:22:50.46\00:22:52.71 Even in the way we communicate, can be very demeaning. 00:22:53.06\00:22:55.86 - That's right! - So I need to ask God 00:22:56.23\00:22:57.31 to help me to be the person, the wife the true help meet I can be 00:22:57.35\00:23:01.39 to help you make that change. And you do that for me. 00:23:01.54\00:23:04.16 And then the weaknesses turn into strength. 00:23:04.54\00:23:06.87 - That's right! - And they dissipate. 00:23:07.21\00:23:08.86 And I know that we still have weaknesses 00:23:09.40\00:23:10.92 but sometimes it's hard to even remember them. I mean 00:23:10.95\00:23:13.78 you know, we've challenged ourselves, you know: where are 00:23:13.81\00:23:16.63 where are our weak areas? 00:23:16.66\00:23:18.23 And are we really working with that? 00:23:18.27\00:23:20.43 So, we, each individually, whatever it's the husband 00:23:20.81\00:23:23.67 or the wife have a key responsibility 00:23:23.70\00:23:26.18 in the making the difference. 00:23:26.21\00:23:27.49 The one who recognizes it, rather than complain 00:23:27.53\00:23:30.24 let's turn it in: "let's restore the marriage through that. 00:23:30.28\00:23:33.44 And that's the exciting part. 00:23:33.88\00:23:35.24 If we can convince you 00:23:35.62\00:23:38.31 that if you will take this to the Lord and if you will 00:23:39.63\00:23:43.39 communicate 00:23:43.94\00:23:44.92 and we're gonna spend some time 00:23:45.64\00:23:47.39 - Talking about communication. - Yes several different programs 00:23:47.43\00:23:49.24 on communication! - That's right! 00:23:49.27\00:23:50.24 Because it's vitally important! It's the lack of communication 00:23:50.25\00:23:52.99 that often leads to these misperceptions. 00:23:53.02\00:23:55.60 But if you will take the time to begin to communicate 00:23:56.16\00:23:59.85 if you will allow your 00:23:59.88\00:24:02.83 your faults to be revealed. You know, 00:24:02.87\00:24:04.94 one of the hardest things for either of us 00:24:04.98\00:24:07.11 when we're in the "me focus" 00:24:07.14\00:24:08.77 is to let the other person really express 00:24:09.19\00:24:12.39 the fault! 00:24:12.90\00:24:13.87 And now, I can say this to you as I can say it to my wife 00:24:14.43\00:24:17.79 She can come to me now, not that I always like it, 00:24:18.73\00:24:21.27 not that it always feels good, 00:24:21.30\00:24:22.91 but she can come to me and we can talk about my faults. 00:24:23.35\00:24:27.15 I can go to her and talk about her faults. 00:24:27.62\00:24:30.48 Because we know, that at the end of it we're gonna be better. 00:24:30.86\00:24:33.31 We're gonna have a better marriage! 00:24:33.34\00:24:34.67 That's right! 00:24:34.70\00:24:35.67 And the openness to do that, not to come to criticize but 00:24:35.76\00:24:39.66 to come to encourage and to restore. That's the key 00:24:39.69\00:24:42.97 - That's right! - In facing these weaknesses 00:24:43.00\00:24:45.74 that we each have. 00:24:45.77\00:24:46.86 So that's really the challenge that we have for them. 00:24:47.39\00:24:50.72 Is that they would be willing 00:24:51.20\00:24:52.54 not just hearing us, but that you would be willing 00:24:53.43\00:24:56.04 to really, honestly allow your wife or your husband 00:24:56.46\00:25:00.62 to come to you! 00:25:00.65\00:25:01.62 Allow, for that communication that can happen! 00:25:01.92\00:25:04.74 So, the weaknesses that we see, they can be real. 00:25:05.97\00:25:09.20 But, how we respond to them is the key! 00:25:09.77\00:25:13.17 And if each one of us 00:25:13.68\00:25:15.67 if each one of you 00:25:16.18\00:25:17.57 would let your heart be the grave yard for those faults 00:25:18.13\00:25:22.04 you will see a difference in your marriage. 00:25:22.54\00:25:24.41 And it doesn't have to take weeks and months and years! 00:25:24.45\00:25:27.13 You're gonna see the difference in days! 00:25:27.16\00:25:29.20 Sometimes in an hour! 00:25:29.23\00:25:30.95 It's incredible to see the difference! 00:25:31.37\00:25:33.35 That's right! 00:25:33.38\00:25:34.35 So what's their challenge? 00:25:34.42\00:25:35.65 Well, the challenge that all of us have: 00:25:36.14\00:25:38.79 Let's find out if they're real! 00:25:40.49\00:25:41.95 - That's right! - Ok? 00:25:41.98\00:25:43.18 Let's be honest! And the place to find out if they're real 00:25:43.60\00:25:45.96 is not just by my perception. 00:25:46.42\00:25:48.63 - It's on our knees! - It's on our knees 00:25:49.31\00:25:50.83 before the Lord! We need to find out: 00:25:50.86\00:25:52.35 Is this really real? 00:25:52.38\00:25:54.35 And if it is real? 00:25:54.81\00:25:56.24 We find out that it's real, we need to start praying. 00:25:56.64\00:25:59.80 Not to change my wife! 00:26:00.12\00:26:02.58 Now, we can do that! But I wanna suggest to you 00:26:02.86\00:26:05.01 that where we need to start praying first is Lord! 00:26:05.04\00:26:07.26 We need to see this buried! 00:26:08.12\00:26:09.78 Not buried alive! This needs to be buried: 00:26:10.52\00:26:12.52 "Give me that real forgiveness, 00:26:12.55\00:26:15.00 and let it be buried in my heart!" 00:26:15.58\00:26:17.92 Because if it's buried there dead, 00:26:17.95\00:26:20.26 than I'm gonna have the best opportunity of helping 00:26:20.69\00:26:23.26 you to work through that real fault that's there. 00:26:23.30\00:26:25.84 That's right! 00:26:25.87\00:26:26.84 So, if we need God to help us with this, than maybe we can 00:26:27.61\00:26:31.14 turn to God right now, 00:26:31.86\00:26:32.87 as we close! Do you wanna close in prayer honey? 00:26:33.67\00:26:35.76 Sure! 00:26:35.79\00:26:36.76 Father, we're thankful that You do have a 00:26:38.65\00:26:40.42 forgiving Spirit towards us. 00:26:40.45\00:26:42.10 And that You remember our sins no more. 00:26:42.63\00:26:45.21 And help us as husbands and wives 00:26:46.01\00:26:48.22 that we too can give our spouse 00:26:48.68\00:26:54.53 that part of our heart that will 00:26:55.15\00:26:56.77 bury those faults and weaknesses 00:26:56.81\00:26:58.40 to be remembered no more. 00:26:58.43\00:26:59.81 And if they're real Lord, help us to be 00:27:00.39\00:27:01.84 the instrument in Your Hands 00:27:01.87\00:27:03.21 to strengthen and to uplift and to change! 00:27:03.65\00:27:06.25 And we believe that this can be done. 00:27:07.18\00:27:08.75 Because You are the God of all flesh 00:27:08.78\00:27:10.64 and there is nothing to hard for You and we thank you 00:27:10.68\00:27:13.92 for Your willingness! In Jesus name Amen! 00:27:14.38\00:27:16.32 Amen! 00:27:16.74\00:27:17.71 Well, we've got another exciting subject, 00:27:19.76\00:27:23.46 next time we get together! 00:27:23.49\00:27:24.50 Building a Foundation! 00:27:25.58\00:27:26.98 We've had to build that foundation, haven't we? 00:27:27.91\00:27:29.66 We've built the first one that wasn't very strong! 00:27:30.14\00:27:32.68 - That's right! - The second one has 00:27:32.71\00:27:33.88 withstood tempests and trials! - That's right! 00:27:33.92\00:27:36.56 Building a sure foundation! 00:27:36.59\00:27:38.77 And we're gonna find out how we build that, 00:27:39.73\00:27:41.84 next time we're together! 00:27:42.31\00:27:44.76