Participants: Tom Waters, Alane Waters
Series Code: MGH
Program Code: MGH000008
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00:34 Welcome to Marriage Heart to Heart
00:36 We are Tom & Alane Waters with Restoration International 00:41 And we hope you have your paper and pencil. 00:42 Today we're gonna be talking about Finding Forgiveness! 00:45 And we know that if you take notes 00:47 you remember more what you hear. 00:50 Well, there're two phrases. 00:52 They're simple phrases aren't they dear? 00:56 Simple phrases that are very often hard to say! 01:02 And I think our viewing audience since you gave the title there 01:06 might know what they are. 01:10 "I'm sorry!" and - "I forgive you!" 01:15 Those are pretty short, pretty easy to say, aren't they? 01:17 Sure, you teach a two year old to say that! 01:19 It's verbally(?) right! 01:21 Sure! 01:22 So, why do you think it's so hard 01:25 to say those two phrases? 01:27 What's the missing ingredient if it's hard? 01:30 You really don't feel like it! 01:32 Right! 01:34 When our self is crossed, when somebody has upset us 01:39 or somebody has done us wrong, has hurt us, whatever it is 01:43 without the Grace and Power of Jesus Christ we 01:47 really aren't capable of saying a real "I'm sorry!" 01:52 or "I forgive you!" 01:54 Oh, yes! And many of you if you're parents 01:58 you may find that you say to your child: 02:01 "What do you say?!" 02:04 And what do they say? 02:06 "I'm sorry!" 02:08 We don't want those rote memorized phrases because those 02:13 first of all they don't really come from the heart, 02:15 they could just become, you know, something: 02:17 "Well, I have to say this or do this!" 02:20 But I found in my own experience when I am struggling with 02:25 saying "I'm sorry!" or "I forgive you dear!" 02:30 When I'm struggling with that it's because I'm struggling with 02:34 truly being surrendered to Christ in that moment! 02:37 I'm holding on to the "me focus". 02:40 Or I wanna have, you know, my way! 02:42 Or I wanna the way it feels good to me or 02:45 the way I might think it's gonna feel good. 02:47 And that brings no happiness! - That's right! 02:50 And the lack of forgiveness in a marriage and the lack 02:54 of being able to say "I'm sorry, would you forgive me?!" 02:58 is destroying many couples. 03:00 - That's right! - Because, when you don't 03:02 tell me you're sorry then it's something that begins to build, 03:05 putting there those walls up between us again, those bricks 03:08 that we talked about earlier. 03:10 Putting bricks in those walls that put a barrier between us. 03:14 If I wanna tell you I'm sorry I need to be very clear 03:18 about what I'm sorry about! 03:20 And not put the blame: 03:22 "I'm sorry but if you hadn't have said that then I 03:24 wouldn't have responded that way!" 03:27 Because that's not a true "I'm sorry"! That's not 03:30 a true apologies, not a true confession and repentance 03:33 which the bible speaks of. It's just a superficial response 03:37 that is what we've learned to do to try to make ourselves 03:43 feel better, but we really don't have the inner peace. 03:45 We wanna find that inner peace in our own heart 03:47 and then that brings us to peace between us! 03:49 It's really an age-old problem, isn't it? 03:52 - It is! - I mean it goes way back! 03:54 In fact if you have your Bibles in Matthew the 18th chapter 03:59 in verse 21, 04:01 we hear a question coming from Peter, good old Peter 04:05 He was often like we are, he was pretty quit to share 04:09 what was on his mind and in this particular situation 04:13 Peter is already feeling pretty good, he says here: 04:17 "Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, 04:23 and I forgive him? 04:25 till seven times?" 04:28 Now, Peter is feeling pretty good about this because 04:30 he wants to show the Lord, this is Peter. 04:34 And maybe the others around him! 04:36 Yes maybe the other disciples that are around him. 04:38 He wants to show that he is going farther than 04:42 the traditions of the day. 04:44 Because the rabbis they said, you know, if somebody 04:48 need a forgiveness 3 times your duty was done! 04:53 Now Peter he's saying seven times 04:56 "is seven times enough Lord?" 04:59 And than we find Jesus answer, here in verse 22: 05:03 "Jesus saith unto him", and on to us today as well, 05:08 "I say not unto thee, Until seven times: 05:12 but, Until seventy times seven. " 05:15 That's a lot of times! 05:18 And you know, I don't think Jesus meant there that 05:22 we're ought to start keeping score. 05:24 You know, if there's a problem in the marriage that.. 05:28 - I got my score-pad you got yours! 05:29 - That's right! 05:30 - For hundred ninety lines? 05:31 And while you just hit your 490 Jesus was trying to 05:36 teach us a lesson that He does not weary in forgiving us! 05:43 And He doesn't want us to keep score and be weary 05:46 in forgiving one another. 05:47 That's right! And this is very important in our marriages! 05:50 I remember, we had been married a few years, we had had 05:53 our first child by this time and we both 05:57 struggled with this area of really saying "I'm sorry!" 06:01 from the heart. 06:02 And really being willing to forgive each other. 06:06 And so, I remember this particular day: you were going 06:09 to take your students from X-ray, your X-ray students up to 06:14 Wisconsin to go skiing. Do you remember that? 06:16 Yes! 06:17 And you were the program director and every day, 06:21 each year I should say, you gave your students 06:24 Yes, we didn't get to do it every day! 06:25 That would've been nice right? 06:28 Each year you would take your students up there 06:30 to go skiing, to Wisconsin. 06:32 And the years before I had gone with you. 06:34 I take the day of at work and I would join you 06:36 and enjoy the day together being with you and your students 06:39 and just have a nice winter outing. 06:42 Well, when children come along your life changes! 06:45 And now e had a new born at home and you were on your way 06:48 and I was thinking about you all day long. 06:51 I was thinking: "Oh, I wander what slopes are going down" and 06:54 "I wonder what they're doing for lunch" and 06:56 all this kind f thoughts 'cause my heart was with you, 06:58 my thoughts were with you. And I was really enjoying 07:00 your day with you and you didn't even know it. 07:02 That's right! 07:04 So I was really looking forward to you coming home! 07:07 And I counting down those hours in the day till I knew 07:11 you were gonna be home. 07:13 And that time came and it went. 07:15 But you weren't home. And so, you know how our minds are 07:18 how my mind works anyway and I think this is true for everybody 07:22 When things don't go as planned, our mind creates 07:25 a whole new scenario of what has happened to cause the delay. 07:29 That's what my mind did that evening when you weren't home 07:31 when I anticipated you from the previous experience that we had, 07:35 I thought: "Oh, maybe they decided to do 07:38 one more run down the slopes and that could take 07:40 another extra hour by the time you get all the students 07:42 to go down the slopes!" 07:45 And that hour went by, and you still weren't home and 07:48 so I created another scenario: "Maybe they decided to stop 07:52 and get something to eat on the way home" 07:54 That was a good scenario. 07:55 That was a good scenario! Right? 07:57 I have to say I was learning, it was better than my old track! 08:00 Right? I was starting to learn to give the best construction. 08:04 But after another hour or more went by I started to feel 08:08 a bit anxiousness. 08:10 That anxiousness began to build, 08:12 so I started doing what most of us do as Christians at least 08:17 when we start to feel anxiety 08:19 and a little bit of fear we start to pray. 08:22 And that's what I did, I started to pray that the Lord would 08:25 bring you home safe. 08:26 And more time went by and you still weren't home. 08:30 Then something happened in my mind I started creating 08:32 other scenarios that weren't so good. 08:35 Other situations that could've happened: "Somebody got hurt" 08:39 "What if they were in an accident?" 08:41 So when these thoughts started floating my mind 08:45 Now your mind is working over-time. 08:49 I started to panic inside, and I started praying 08:53 you know pleading with God, begging God 08:56 that He would bring you home safe! And I made promises 08:58 like this: "Lord if You bring him home, I promise 09:01 I'll never be mean to him again!" 09:03 Sounds wonderful! 09:05 "If You bring him home Lord I promise I'll be kind to him 09:08 all the time! I really do love him Lord!" 09:12 Well, I still didn't come home! 09:14 And you still didn't come home! And finally, several hours 09:16 had gone by. I think at least four. 09:19 You even called the Police, I think, didn't you? 09:21 I did! I was so desperate, I called at the Police Department 09:24 of our local town, to see if there's been a report 09:26 of an accident. And the officer or the dispatcher said: 09:29 "Where would he had been?" I said: 09:31 "Somewhere between Wisconsin and Illinois" 09:33 And they laughed at me. 09:35 I realized how foolish that was! 09:36 But, you know, we don't think clearly in those 09:39 kind of situations. Well then I heard your car 09:41 coming down the alley. 09:43 And I knew it was our car! And I knew it was you coming home. 09:46 even though it was very late. And I was so excited 09:49 about you being home, I could hardly wait to open 09:51 the back door. 09:53 And see you come down the steps. 09:56 And then you came around the corner. 09:58 I didn't have any bandages on my head. 10:01 You came around the corner and down the steps 10:03 after you put the car in the garage. 10:05 And I said: "Honey I'm so glad you're home!" 10:09 And then you said: - And then I said: 10:12 "Where have you been?" 10:14 "Oh, we stopped to get pizza!" 10:16 "You did?" 10:18 "Yes!" "- Pizza?" 10:20 "Yes, we got pizza!" 10:22 "Four hours? It took you four hours to eat pizza?" 10:25 "Well, we got a lot of pizza!" 10:28 Then I asked you a question that it's very typical 10:31 for a wife to ask a husband: 10:33 "Why didn't you call me?" 10:36 And I answered unfortunately in maybe what's typical 10:40 for some of you husbands, at least it was typical for me 10:43 back then. It's not typical any more! 10:46 But I said: 10:49 "I didn't think about it!" 10:50 Yes! That's right! 10:55 Because everything started to change then! 10:57 Yes! All my joy and my love and my romance turned in.. 11:01 All those confessions of "I'll never..., I'll trust him. 11:06 "I'll be kind to him the rest of my life Lord, I promise 11:08 Ill treat him nicely!" 11:10 Well, we lost all that in about 30 seconds. 11:13 Less than that I think! 11:14 Because you hurt my feelings! And as soon as that thought hit 11:18 and those feelings responded, 11:20 you know, you said: "I'm sorry! I mean I just didn't think of it 11:23 And I really was! 11:24 And you really were, but it wasn't good enough! 11:26 That's right! Not for all the agony that you'd gone through! 11:28 That's right! I had been four hours in misery! 11:31 And in my selfishness I wanted you to know I wasn't happy! 11:35 You we're gonna pay for that! 11:36 - You know? - That's right! 11:37 So when I'm sorry in that situation is not good enough! 11:41 It has to be a little bit of penitence. 11:43 A little bit of... - That's right! 11:46 That's our human understanding, and that's why 11:48 we had conflict, right? - That's right! 11:49 So I left and I went to bed and I had what I term a "cold war" 11:53 I began the "cold war": "Now I'm just not gonna talk to you!" 11:57 Yes! 11:58 And it caused conflict! It caused hurt! It caused pain! 12:01 It took a small little thing, you know, a misunderstanding 12:04 or a mess-up if you wanna say that! 12:08 And it turned it into a big situation. 12:12 So, what do we do in those situations? I mean 12:16 what happened? Why couldn't you forgive me? 12:19 Because it wasn't in my heart! 12:22 And that's why we have to have God working in our hearts. 12:24 That's right! 12:26 Jesus says: "Father forgive them for they know not what they do" 12:30 And this is the Spirit of forgiveness that we need 12:32 to come to understand in our marriages! 12:34 That's right! That's Luke 23:34: 12:39 "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do" 12:43 You know, many times this is the true Spirit of forgiveness 12:46 because many times like that day when I came home 12:50 from the ski trip, I had a great day! 12:53 Until you got home with your wife! 12:54 I had a great time! 12:56 And when I found out what I had caused you 13:00 I was sorry! - And you really were! 13:01 I was! I was sorry! 13:03 - But... - But the problem wasn't you! 13:06 The problem was me! 13:07 So I really wasn't sorry enough. 13:10 Right? Or I wasn't sorry the right way? 13:13 The way my selfishness wanted it! 13:15 Yes! And that is what I wanna talk about for a moment. 13:17 with the viewing audience because 13:19 what happens here is that first of all 13:23 the forgiveness isn't coming from God in that situation! 13:27 My wife said: "I forgive you!" 13:29 But there was no real forgiveness. 13:32 And the forgiveness was only gonna come to her 13:36 if I did the right kind of penitence or I showed that 13:40 I was really sorry enough! 13:42 And this wasn't just something that you experienced. 13:45 Now, we use this illustration but I struggle with this too! 13:49 - I think most people do! - There were many times! 13:52 I think so, and many times that I would try to say: 13:55 You know, you'd come to me and say that you were sorry. 13:59 And I'd say: "Well, what are you sorry for?" 14:03 And you would share with me some aspect of what it taken place. 14:08 - And.. - You would say: "That's 14:09 not what I want you to be sorry for!" 14:11 Yes! That's not what I wanted you to be sorry for! 14:13 You need to be sorry for this! 14:16 And that's not the forgiveness that Jesus is talking about here 14:20 Jesus said: "Father forgive them for they know not what they do!" 14:26 And that Spirit of forgiveness can only come from Christ! 14:30 You know? 14:31 That we've said these things throughout these series, 14:36 that everything that's going to make the difference in 14:39 our marriage really comes from the Giver of life and marriage. 14:44 It's gonna come from Christ! 14:46 And we need to talk about how we get beyond this. 14:50 And so, we're gonna take a break right now but 14:52 stay with us! Because when we come back from the break 14:55 we're gonna talk about how we can have this kind of 14:59 forgiveness and how it works in practical, day-to-day life in 15:08 the marriage. 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Where we've been talking about 15:42 Finding Forgiveness 15:45 Honey I think you were getting ready to share something 15:47 before went into the break. 15:50 We found that the lack of real forgiveness 15:52 in our marriage was destroying us! 15:54 - That's right! - And I think it destroys 15:56 many couples from the inside out! 15:58 Because when we harbor a lack of forgiveness 16:01 or we won't offer that forgiveness, 16:03 we find bitterness start to grow in the heart. 16:07 And that is deadly to any relationship! 16:10 And so, we have to understand how to find forgiveness. 16:13 And how to be truly sorry, the way the Scripture talks about. 16:17 And I, as you and I went back and began to look because 16:21 we saw the weakness in our marriage. 16:22 We identified it as a problem as we went back 16:25 in Scripture and began to study what is true confession 16:29 and repentance and forgiveness. 16:30 We began to see a new dimension that we had not 16:33 experience before. That means I need to be specific 16:36 in what I'm sorry for: "I'm sorry that I spoke 16:38 those words to you! Will you forgive me?" 16:41 And then I don't put on any "ands" or "buts" or "ifs" 16:45 or "ors" on there. I simply state my problem, 16:49 what I have done that was wrong and ask to be forgiven. 16:52 That's my part in it! Your part would be to truly 16:56 offer me that forgiveness! 16:58 Well, there's no barriers there! 17:00 That you grant me that forgiveness. 17:04 And when you tell me: "Honey I'm sorry" you know 17:06 "that I said that!", "I'm sorry I did that!" 17:07 or "I'm sorry I left the trash" or whatever it may be 17:10 I can be free to forgive you the same way Christ forgives us. 17:13 True freedom in forgiveness! 17:16 It will strengthen our marriage! 17:17 And it creates an environment that's safe 17:21 - Yes! - To be in the marriage! 17:23 That there is forgiveness, you know 17:25 that's what real Christianity is about! 17:27 Because when we come to Christ we have the assurance 17:31 that if we're willing to confess our sins He is faithful, 17:34 he will always be faithful to us, 17:36 to forgive us and unclamps us from that sin so we can 17:40 move on! - That's right! 17:41 We need that environment. We need a safe environment. 17:43 But what about the people? 17:45 The people that keep doing the same thing over and over 17:50 and over again?! 17:51 Well, the Bible has something to say about that too! 17:53 That's right! 17:54 And I think we need to read that right now: 17:57 Jesus said this in Luke 17 versus 3 and 4; it says: 18:01 "if he trespass against thee seven times in a day" 18:05 Now we're talking about one day here. 18:07 "seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn 18:11 again, saying, I repent" 18:15 - That means "I'm sorry!" 18:17 Yes! 18:18 - "Would you forgive me?" 18:19 - Isn't that what it means? - "Seven times " 18:21 - In the same day? For the same problem? 18:24 And here's what Jesus says: " thou shalt forgive him" 18:29 It's not my words! 18:30 That's what Jesus is encouraging us to do! 18:33 Not only He is encouraging us to do that but He's giving us 18:36 the Grace to do it! 18:38 - That's His Spirit of forgiveness. 18:40 I mean think at how many times a day 18:42 He needs to forgive us! 18:43 That's right! 18:44 I'm so glad that He doesn't worrying of forgiving me. 18:46 But I wanna bring on something today that's very important 18:52 and that is that true forgiveness does not mean 18:56 that we just continue to unable this sin, ok? 19:01 And I wanna share with you, the listening, viewing audience 19:04 a situation that happened. I got a phone call from a man 19:08 and he was complaining 19:11 and upset because he's wife just would not let him 19:15 out of his old mold. 19:18 "Just keeps holding me in the past. She just won't let it go!" 19:21 "And I am so tired of it!" And he was looking to me 19:25 Ok? - For sympathy probably. 19:26 - To give him some sympathy. 19:28 And as I listened, and you know I always pray 19:32 in these conversations. 19:34 And as I was praying the Lord brought this thought to me: 19:37 just to ask him this simple question: 19:40 "Is this only in the past or is this really what you continue to 19:44 live in your marriage today?" 19:46 Well, there was kind of an awkward pause 19:48 and he began to express that he as in reality he was 19:53 he was still living it. 19:55 Well, we end up getting the wife on the phone too 19:58 and she said: "I have forgiven my husband! I love my husband" 20:02 "I want our marriage to work but I cannot allow him to keep 20:06 abusing me physically and abusing the children!" 20:10 So, is there a place where true forgiveness 20:14 God given forgiveness can take place?! And yet we cannot 20:18 tolerate the abuse. 20:20 Absolutely! There has to be a line that's strong there! 20:24 And that's what happened in this situation. 20:27 I tell you, in the counseling that we do we rarely want to 20:31 deal with a separation experience but there 20:34 is a place for proper separation. 20:38 And that separation is a separation that's designed 20:42 to bring restoration. 20:44 And as I talked to this couple, 20:46 we came to the place in the conversation where I agreed 20:50 that this lady did have the Spirit of forgiveness, 20:53 she was loving her husband but she could not go on 20:56 with the physical abuse that was taking place! 20:59 And I continued to counsel this couple over the next few weeks 21:03 and months. 21:04 The good news is that that husband 21:08 in one of our later phone calls said: "This was 21:11 the very thing that I needed to restore my marriage" 21:14 He said: "My wife did have a Spirit of forgiveness! 21:18 She did love me! She loved me enough to draw a line 21:22 on this abuse in the home!" 21:24 And it was beautiful to see that couple come back together. 21:28 and were to meet that couple today and their family you 21:31 would not know that there had ever been abuse! 21:35 You would not know that there had ever been a separation! 21:38 In this case the forgiveness that God put in the wife's heart 21:43 and the true love, that was there for her, 21:45 restored that marriage and they're a beautiful family today 21:48 I know! 21:49 So the point is: there is a place for forgiving seven times. 21:55 But not necessarily a place for continuing to unable 21:59 this abuse that's going on. 22:00 That's right! 22:02 So we have to know what God is asking us to do. 22:05 We have to understand He's will for our situation. 22:08 And look for ways to restore it. If I have a spirit of love 22:12 toward you that I wanna restore I'm not gonna 22:13 keep bringing up your past. - That's right! 22:15 If you make the mistake today, it's a present mistake. 22:18 Even if it's something you did yesterday or the day before. 22:22 And as I respond to you with true forgiveness 22:25 it encourages you to start treating me different. 22:28 That's right! 22:29 And so there is a need for a boundary there, 22:32 when there's those types of abuses. But many people 22:37 bail out of marriages because of emotional abuse. 22:40 That's right! 22:41 And other types, and it becomes very subjective. 22:43 "What is it? Is it because you hurt my feelings?" 22:46 "And therefore you're abusive to me?!" 22:48 Because that gets very difficult to understand. 22:51 And what we need to do is challenge ourselves 22:53 to understand that Spirit of forgiveness and be the first 22:57 to say: "I'm sorry!" 22:58 in a situation where there's conflict, 23:00 - That's right! - be the first to take 23:02 responsibility, even if my part's only 5% of the problem. 23:05 As I see it, be the first one to say "Honey, I'm sorry!" 23:09 So is there a place 23:11 for forgiveness? Or maybe I can ask you this question: 23:14 Is there anything that's too hard 23:16 for God to give us forgiveness in? 23:19 What if a husband it's unfaithful to the marriage vows? 23:23 And the wife has Biblical grounds. 23:25 Is there still a possibility if that wife loves her husband, 23:28 that there is forgiveness available? 23:30 Absolutely! 23:31 Because God offers that forgiveness! 23:34 And there's no sin too grave that He can't forgive! 23:37 And so when we accept that love and in fact we know more 23:41 than a few couples who had this experience. 23:43 And the wives, particularly they're the ones who've been 23:45 the one, you know, cheated on, so we say. 23:49 They have found that Grace, that love from God 23:52 to come through their heart to their husband. 23:55 - I know. - That really forgave 23:57 their husband. 23:58 And they looked for ways to honor him, even in his 24:04 unhonorable choices, shall I say. 24:07 And they have helped to restore that marriage through their 24:09 through their love, and through their forgiveness as genuine. 24:12 They don't live in the past! They don't rehearse the past! 24:15 They don't hold the husband in the past! 24:17 They say "I forgive you!" And they do what can 24:20 to restore the marriage. 24:21 And it's a beautiful situation to see those marriages healed. 24:25 Because in reality, he really does love his wife! 24:28 That's right! And I remember one of those couples that 24:31 we worked with. 24:33 That everyone was telling her: "This guy is good for nothing!" 24:39 - "Get rid of him!" - "He'll never change!" 24:40 That's right! "Get rid of him!" 24:42 And she was getting nothing but this kind of encouragement 24:46 in that direction. 24:47 And, I know that the day she called you and talked to you 24:52 you were the first person 24:54 that gave her encouragement in the other direction. 24:56 Do you remember what you told her that day? 24:59 I said:"If you want to love your husband, God can give you" 25:02 that Spirit of forgiveness!" 25:03 That's right! 25:04 "And God will put the deeper love in your heart for him, 25:07 the way God loves us!" 25:08 "And God working in your heart can brake your husbands heart, 25:12 and restore him!" 25:13 And he was restored! And she was, you know, 25:16 their family has healed. 25:17 - I know! - And it is such a joy to see 25:19 their family! I mean they're a whole family! 25:22 - That's beautiful! - And he loves his wife! 25:24 And she loves him! And there's nothing between them! 25:27 And it was beautiful to hear him 25:29 describe how he saw the forgiveness! 25:33 And what it did, the deep forgiveness, 25:36 that she gave to him. 25:38 And how she found that forgiveness in Christ. 25:40 Because as he described that situation 25:44 and what it did to brake his heart, 25:47 we saw a husband and wife 25:49 restored! 25:51 We saw the power of Grace, you know, 25:54 our listening audience needs to know that, that same 25:56 miracle working power is available for you today! 26:00 Not just for these people we've seen in the past! And not just 26:02 for the people in the Old Testament that had their eyes 26:06 you know, the sight restored and they walked again and 26:09 the leprous were healed. 26:11 This is a real today Message of Salvation! 26:16 The miracles are possible today! 26:19 And in closing 26:20 we should give them a little personal challenge, 26:23 that if there's anything today between you and the one 26:27 that you have given your life pledged your life to be with, 26:30 your wife, your husband. If there's anything there 26:33 that's come to your mind, if there's unforgiveness 26:35 unresolved conflict, there are things there 26:38 we wanna say that God can give you that forgiveness! 26:42 God can give you that ability to say "I'm sorry!" 26:45 God can help you begin to communicate again. 26:48 And it's only as we're willing 26:51 to turn to God that we will find that. 26:54 And I think it would be nice if you closed us in prayer, 26:57 as we turn there at the end of this time together. 27:03 Father we do thank You for Your word and 27:05 for it teaches us about how forgiveness really works. 27:08 And I just pray that in each of our hearts we will desire 27:11 to experience Your forgiveness for our problems, 27:15 and your forgiveness working through us, 27:17 to others, toward others Lord, that we can have 27:20 true peace and happiness and harmony 27:22 in our homes and in our marriages. In Jesus name Amen! 27:26 Amen! 27:28 Next time we get together we're going to be talking about 27:31 the Grave for faults 27:34 Don't miss this one! 27:36 Because it's going to help us in dealing with this forgiveness. 27:41 You can have a Marriage Heart to Heart! 27:44 God bless you! 28:25 Captions and subtitles by Christian Media Services |
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