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Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin,
and welcome to Live To Be Well.
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Today on the program,
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we're going to talk
about being convicted.
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What are our convictions?
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Being convicted and
serving Jesus Christ.
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Today, my special
guest is Royce Mentor III.
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Hi, Royce.
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Hey, how are you doing?
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How are you?
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I'm good.
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I'm good too.
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Thank you for being with us
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here on the Dare
to Dream Ministry.
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I'm so excited about seeing you.
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Now, let me give
you a little history.
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Royce Mentor III, and
my daughter Erin were born,
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when were you born, Royce?
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2000, February.
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2000, February.
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Erin was born... February what?
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Fifth.
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And Erin was born March 2.
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So you gotta buy
a couple of weeks.
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And I have this
picture of Royce and Erin,
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babies in my arms
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with your mother next to
me and we're holding you all.
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And look at you all today.
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19.
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I'm telling you grew up on me.
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All right?
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Now, you come to my church,
you're Seventh-day Adventist,
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you were born and
raised Seventh-day Adventist.
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Your grandfather
was pastor, mentor.
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Your grandmother, I
know your grandmother,
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I know your
aunts, I know your uncle,
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I know your
mother, I know your father.
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I know everyone.
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Beautiful, godly family
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and standards within the church.
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And we had your uncle
on the broadcast, Mr. Boom.
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Yeah.
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So we really
enjoyed having him here.
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But you, I called you one day
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because I was asked to
serve as superintendent.
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And I was
sitting around the house
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and I was praying
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because we had
to have a pianist.
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And right then and there,
God said Royce Mentor III.
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And I text you,
and you said yes.
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And I am so happy you did,
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so every first
Sabbath Saturday of the month,
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I serve as superintendent.
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And Royce is my pianist
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and he also
offers special music.
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Awesome, awesome musician.
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So convicted.
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So first of all, let's
learn about who Royce Mentor is.
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And then let's talk
about why you are convicted
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and committed to God?
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All right.
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So I'm 19 years
old as you said before,
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I'm Adventist,
that was my whole life.
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Played the piano.
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I've played the
piano since five,
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I stopped around
sixth, seventh grade,
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but then came back
to around eighth grade.
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Um, I work out, I
do mostly calisthenics,
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which is a bodyweight workout.
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I'm in school right
now a dual enrollment.
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So I did high
school and college.
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I'm doing college now
the transfer next year,
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Lord willing, that's
really about sets me up.
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All right.
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Sweet and simple.
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Your goal is to
attend what university?
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Oakwood University,
Lord willing next year.
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Well, you're going
to be studying music,
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you have a good
foundation at Oakwood.
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And I know you'll
be right there playing
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with all the great musicians.
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So let's talk about your...
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You're so convicted,
you know, you say yes.
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I mean, I asked
you to play for me
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and stay a little bit longer.
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But you had two other programs
to play for at your church,
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and you felt so bad
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that you
couldn't stay, you know.
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Why are you so convicted
in serving Jesus Christ?
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Well, I guess
it starts as a kid,
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you know, you
raised into the church.
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And you know, your
parents give you opening Sabbath
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and closing Sabbath and
it becomes natural for you.
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But at a time,
you have to choose
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what you want to do it.
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And you know, I
guess I chose to do it.
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And the Lord
blessed me while doing it.
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And because He's blessed me,
it makes me want to do it more.
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And so I took out,
I took my piano skill,
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and I decided, no, I can
use this to play for Him,
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because this is the best I got.
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So I'm going to
give it all to Him right
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with the guy
with the one talent.
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This is my one talent
and I'm using this talent.
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And so, I choose
God because, you know,
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He's blessed me so much.
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And He continues to bless me
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even when I slip
and fall sometimes,
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He still picks me back
up and said, hey, you know,
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keep going and
you're doing all right.
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Just keep, keep moving forward.
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And God has blessed you.
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Well, why is it
today in our society,
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young people, we
look at our churches.
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I look at City Temple.
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I don't know
about Living Waters,
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but where are
all the young people?
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Right now as
this because it's big,
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that's a big topic.
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Right now, honestly,
I think it's because,
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you know, people
are in the church
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are still kind of, like,
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stuck to like
some of the old ways.
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And, you know,
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kids are not gonna want to just,
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they want to kind of be free
and flexible a lot of the time.
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And so because they
can, they can't volunteer
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or do what they want
to do in the church, like,
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some kids want
to do special music.
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But all people are
saying, well, you can't do that,
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we have to do this.
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And they want to
help in the church.
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But sometimes a lot
of people in churches
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won't let them do it
because they're young,
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because they're not ready,
that they're saying they just,
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they just wanting to leave,
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because they're not
being able to, you know,
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kind of
contribute to the church.
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So they get discouraged?
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Yes, I think that's
one of the big reasons
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as to why they're leaving.
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I remember when
I first was asked
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to be the
hospitality on the committee.
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And I said,
well, what's involved,
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and I was like, 15, 16, well,
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you have to stand up
and welcome everyone.
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And I'm like, I won't do that.
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And I remember that
my grandmother said,
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you need to
learn how to do this.
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Because these skills
you learn in the church
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will help you in life.
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Do you agree that the
skills we learn in church,
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how I know it's
helped me in my business?
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And where I, the
Lord has taken me?
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Do you feel that the church
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is the
foundation to learn skills,
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personally and professionally?
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Definitely, even the small stuff
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like I used to help
with tithe and offering,
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I'd be one of the, one
of the offering barriers
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that pass out,
pass the plate down.
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And at first it's
kind of like nerve-racking,
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because you have to
stand up and walk forward
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and then walk back and hand it
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and wait for the
person to come down.
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But you know, when
you get older and older,
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it gets easier,
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because you begin
to know the people
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and talking to
them and passing it down
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is just, this is small
thought, is easy and easy.
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And the bigger plans
you do in the church,
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you know, the easier it gets.
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And you know, I want to say that
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if you are doing
these roles in the church,
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you get to know the
members in the church,
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they see you
involve, participating.
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And you know,
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you guys have some of
the best fellowship dinners,
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you know, I mean,
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do you enjoy
staying after church
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and having those
great Sabbath dinners?
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I love it.
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You know, because it opens
the door to get to know people.
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And so you guys
are still having those.
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I know I've got to
come over and visit.
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It's been a while.
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But I'm so busy
in my own church.
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That's another thing.
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You get so busy,
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and you can't visit
like you know would like
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to but you have to give
back in your own church.
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Royce, let me ask you.
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Wellness,
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you said that you
work out your exercise.
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But what about the
wellness of your mind?
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Dealing with stress?
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How does...
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How do you as a
young person deal with just
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because we see
stress in our young people,
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they're committing suicide,
they are isolating themselves,
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turning to different vices.
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What are you doing to
maintain your wellness balance?
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So when I'm having a problem
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and I'm having
like a deep a deep,
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stressful moment,
actually I work out,
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I'll look and hit the heavy bag.
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You know, do some
explosive workouts.
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But if it's, if
it's like a little too,
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like I really can't do that
I really want to do anything.
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I'll just play some hymns.
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Know, it's so
sweet to trust in Jesus.
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That's one of my
favorite hymns just to play.
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And just fingering
it out, playing it slow,
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listening to the
word, playing the words,
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saying the words
while you play it,
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that really helps me.
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You know, calm, calm down,
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and then go
back to the planning.
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It is so sweet
to trust in Jesus,
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just to take Him at His Word.
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How does prayer work
in your wellness balance?
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So every morning, I wake
up, and I'll reassess Christ.
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And I'll say,
I'll say a small prayer
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or simple, simple prayer.
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Just be with my day,
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and have me do what
You would have me to do.
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And that will be my
prayer for the morning.
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I will say, even if one
to two small prayers a day,
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just something because
prayer is very important
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to keep connected.
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So at least one or
two small prayers a day
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because God knows where you are,
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you know, He knows everyone's
strengths and weaknesses.
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Or if you can at
least say does God help me
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or thank You God for
today, or there's something,
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something small,
that that'd be sufficient.
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You know, to be so
young, and the hymns,
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the hymns are so beautiful.
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And sometimes we
get away from hymns.
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And we even
complain that you know,
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we're doing the same
hymns over and over again,
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or the same
scriptures because you'll hear
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the 23rd Psalms or you'll
hear Hebrews 11 or Genesis 1:1,
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but it's important for us
to stay connected to the Lord.
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And I think it
doesn't take a lot
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to just spend time with God.
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You know, why do you think
is, you know, because of...
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Is it because of social media,
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is because
everybody's on this fast pace,
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you know, and not
just young people,
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us as adults also, older adults,
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that we don't stop
to spend time with God.
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What do you think?
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Is it because of this
fast paced social media,
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or at work or
demands of the job,
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or is all of it?
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I think is most of the
person's all about all excuses,
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you know, I wake
up, or I'm too tired to.
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I had to... I had to
do this, this and that.
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So I have to, you know, go eat,
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I have to go change
and to do all these,
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they, they come with
every excuse in the book,
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so they don't have to do it.
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And then when night comes,
and they have night worships,
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they'll be like,
Oh, I'm too tired,
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had a long day,
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had to get up
early in the morning.
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And the cycle back
go round and round.
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I think, just
the person themselves
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and their excuses
is the main reason
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why people still don't.
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So people get
lazy, but they can watch
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all the sports on television,
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stay awake, dozing
off, I'm paying for that,
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I'm paying for that cable,
you know, but no time with God.
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I think God gets sad
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when we don't
spend time with Him.
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Because He wants
that communion with us.
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And we need to be convicted like
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you're convicted by working out,
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when they be convicted
about studying the Word of God,
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convicted, we
have to be passionate
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about God and having
a relationship with God.
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I think it's important
that not just going to church,
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but having relationship.
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You and I have a
relationship, we have a bond,
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because we know I've known
you since before you were born.
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And when I see you,
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I'm always so
excited to see you,
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it's like the first time
because of that relationship
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I have with you.
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How do you think young people
can fit better into the church?
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Or do we as the older saints,
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the people of God need
to let you all do more?
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I think at least
a good first step
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is for the where at least,
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they get to
know, know each other
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and then allows young
people that come to the church,
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and he doesn't know that person,
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or the elder doesn't
know that person at all.
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So once they first
build a connection with them,
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at least tell them
know name to name basis,
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then we kind of move forward.
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And we can see if they can.
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And as a young
person to preach once,
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one Saturday or ask
them to play special music
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or give on, give an
offering or testimony,
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something small to start
off with to kind of start
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to bring them in little more.
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Right.
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I know with my own wellness
growing up in the church,
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I was asked to be
involved with different programs
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and my mom would say,
you need to be an usher.
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Now that was one
thing I just said,
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that is not my
calling to be an usher.
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And I was a pathfinder.
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And my wellness
that really helped me
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to be well rounded
with my mental health.
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I had a good
relationship with my pastor,
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his wife and family.
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And I think that my
stress during the week
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was maybe high as a teenager,
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school activities or
things I was dealing with.
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But I was so excited
when the Sabbath came
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and to be able to
go and attend church
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and I loved the
choir rehearse or so,
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and then and that was our
place to meet and come together.
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How could you
say to a young person
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who may be
battling with alcohol,
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and their
wellness and you know them,
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they go to church with you?
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And they're
using other substances?
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What would you say to
them to turn to Jesus?
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Well, I first ask them know,
why do you turn to alcohol?
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Why, what makes you want
to continue to drink like,
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you know, that it
destroys your body.
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And you know, it's
not good for you know,
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that, you know,
God doesn't want you
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because your
body is temple of God,
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doesn't want you to destroy it.
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So I first ask them,
why they do what they do.
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And then you know,
'cause they're in the church,
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they know the
truth, they just have to,
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they have to, to live
it, they have to accept it.
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You know, so I have to
'cause that's kind of hard,
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I probably asked him, you know,
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to do some Bible
studies with here and there,
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or ask the pastor about it.
00:14:05.27\00:14:07.04
Because you know,
we have a cool pastor.
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You know, it's
pretty, he's not super young,
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but he's young at heart.
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Yeah.
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So if you can, if you
have a comfortable conversation
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with an elder or a
pastor that can kind of,
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that's doesn't
like shame for doing
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what you do but at
least talks you through,
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you need to kind
of has to progress.
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Don't push the young
people out of the church.
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But yet, you know,
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the young people need
to go through training.
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You know, every office
that I've served in the church,
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I was trained coming up,
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you know, being
praise and worship leader.
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And I used to remember,
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one day I'm going to
be minister of music.
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But you know how long it took me
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to get to be minister music?
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Twenty five years,
because I was still,
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it wasn't God's time.
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And I was still learning.
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I was still learning the hymns.
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I was still learning
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how to make sure
it was a good fit
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when I did praise and worship
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and then moving
into other things
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that I was still worship leader.
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I was able to give
back to God's church
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because we don't
stay in the church
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who's going to be
there to carry on the church.
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So the second, third,
fourth, fifth generation,
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so when people say
you're fourth generation.
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Well, yes,
because I'm still here.
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But even Royce,
I'm gonna tell you,
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people of my age,
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they've stopped
going to church years ago,
00:15:19.18\00:15:22.02
and they're trying
to find their way back.
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And they missed so much.
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And by the time
they get back to church,
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their wellness is like,
00:15:28.42\00:15:30.53
well, you know,
I've been gone so long.
00:15:30.56\00:15:33.73
I'm kind of
embarrassed to be back,
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you know, we should still help
those people to feel welcome.
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Remember, when I introduced
you to the City Temple.
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That was a part
of your wellness,
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helping you to feel good
00:15:44.87\00:15:46.21
about being there
and not be stressed.
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And when people found
out that who you were,
00:15:48.81\00:15:51.85
because we're all
connected some way,
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but they were just happy
00:15:54.28\00:15:56.12
to connect you
to your grandfather.
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You know, you
were, where you born
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when you lost your grandfather?
00:16:01.09\00:16:02.49
He died before I was born.
00:16:02.52\00:16:03.93
Yes, a great man.
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Yes, a great
man, great man of God.
00:16:05.63\00:16:08.33
But looking at the wellness,
how you talk to people.
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I noticed you're very polite.
00:16:12.50\00:16:14.64
You know, great eye
contact, well poise.
00:16:14.67\00:16:18.84
Do you use your faith in school?
00:16:18.87\00:16:21.04
Do you get a chance to minister
or witness to anyone in school?
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I tried to, it
was few years ago,
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I was in this
class called focus.
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And they kind of teach you
like the basic skills of life.
00:16:31.12\00:16:33.82
And this
teacher, she was Jewish,
00:16:33.86\00:16:35.62
and she has do
this, this project.
00:16:35.66\00:16:40.83
And it said, it gives
a list of things to do.
00:16:40.86\00:16:43.63
And I said, she said
fit it all in one week.
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You can't take anything out.
00:16:45.73\00:16:47.40
Well, one of them
said concert Friday night,
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and a party Saturday.
00:16:49.80\00:16:52.97
She said don't
take anything out.
00:16:53.01\00:16:54.34
But I knew you
know, if it's real life,
00:16:54.38\00:16:56.48
we're playing real life.
00:16:56.51\00:16:57.85
I'm gonna take
this out regardless.
00:16:57.88\00:16:59.21
So I took it out.
00:16:59.25\00:17:00.58
And I told her,
because she said, everyone,
00:17:00.62\00:17:03.18
everyone know, tell they did.
00:17:03.22\00:17:05.02
So I told her she was like,
00:17:05.05\00:17:06.89
you can't you
can't take this out.
00:17:06.92\00:17:08.62
So now you're
fired from your job
00:17:08.66\00:17:10.23
because blah, blah.
00:17:10.26\00:17:11.59
And I was like, well,
I'm Seventh-day Adventist,
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and from Friday night,
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Saturday's Friday
night to Saturday night,
00:17:14.93\00:17:17.90
it's my Sabbath.
00:17:17.93\00:17:19.27
So I can't, you
know, go to work that day,
00:17:19.30\00:17:22.14
or do anything that's ungodly.
00:17:22.17\00:17:24.31
And she was like, well,
we'll see you, so you're fired.
00:17:24.34\00:17:25.81
And I said, well, I'm sure.
00:17:25.84\00:17:27.61
No, if it was God's plan,
I'm gonna find another job.
00:17:27.64\00:17:30.55
And everything's gonna
go well, because Saturday,
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it's a seventh day.
00:17:32.51\00:17:33.85
And she always told my
house Sunday was a seventh day,
00:17:33.88\00:17:36.28
and she was trying to go through
00:17:36.32\00:17:37.65
all this history or whatnot.
00:17:37.69\00:17:39.05
But um, after class,
00:17:39.09\00:17:41.02
I kind of talked her through it,
00:17:41.06\00:17:42.39
I give her one of
those little small pamphlets.
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And I asked her if
she had any question
00:17:44.73\00:17:46.76
for me later, blah-blah.
00:17:46.80\00:17:48.43
And, you know,
00:17:48.46\00:17:49.86
around the
beginning of that year,
00:17:49.90\00:17:51.23
she was kind of just mean,
00:17:51.27\00:17:52.60
and one of
those feisty teachers,
00:17:52.63\00:17:53.97
but around the end of the year,
00:17:54.00\00:17:55.34
and still today,
she's super nice.
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She's hugging people,
00:17:57.61\00:17:58.94
she always greets me
with a smile and a hug.
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And I don't know
if she read it or not,
00:18:02.14\00:18:04.55
but you can, you can
definitely see a change.
00:18:04.58\00:18:06.75
So here and then I'll
try to tell my teachers
00:18:06.78\00:18:09.05
or some of my Muslim
friends about Adventism,
00:18:09.08\00:18:12.35
and Jesus Christ and whatnot.
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That is a blessing.
00:18:13.76\00:18:15.39
Now, in your
wellness and having balanced.
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You know, when
do you get a break?
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Do you play every Sabbath?
00:18:20.73\00:18:22.40
Are you the only
pianist on duty at church?
00:18:22.43\00:18:25.37
So, you know, as you know,
00:18:25.40\00:18:26.84
I play for the mostly in
Youth Federation Praise Team.
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And we play, you
know, in different churches,
00:18:29.20\00:18:31.44
maybe two or
three times a month.
00:18:31.47\00:18:33.54
But my church
has another pianist.
00:18:33.58\00:18:35.84
So sometimes I'll play with him,
00:18:35.88\00:18:38.85
but mostly just to
practice for my ear
00:18:38.88\00:18:40.98
and just to get
better at what I'm doing,
00:18:41.02\00:18:42.62
but usually he's there.
00:18:42.65\00:18:44.05
But just about every
Saturday, I'm playing the piano.
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I'm not complaining.
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All right, and I know
you love serving the Lord.
00:18:47.36\00:18:50.13
But we all have
to have that me time.
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God wants us to look
at our mental health,
00:18:52.46\00:18:55.40
our physical, emotional,
00:18:55.43\00:18:57.63
He wants us to be
well balanced spiritually.
00:18:57.67\00:19:00.70
And if any of those
things are off balance,
00:19:00.74\00:19:03.10
it's going to
throw the whole core off.
00:19:03.14\00:19:05.21
So the Bible is very clear,
00:19:05.24\00:19:07.21
do everything
decently and in order.
00:19:07.24\00:19:09.98
So we need to,
when we cut that pie,
00:19:10.01\00:19:13.28
we want to cut it evenly
00:19:13.31\00:19:14.88
so that
everything stays in balance.
00:19:14.92\00:19:17.39
You know, rest.
00:19:17.42\00:19:18.75
What about getting your rest,
00:19:18.79\00:19:20.12
you get enough rest in
a part of your wellness?
00:19:20.16\00:19:22.22
I do.
00:19:22.26\00:19:23.59
'Cause young people
want to stay up and you know,
00:19:23.63\00:19:26.29
so you get 8-10 hours of sleep.
00:19:26.33\00:19:27.93
Yeah, I like sleep.
00:19:27.96\00:19:31.40
You know, I need to sleep
more, you know, I'm so busy,
00:19:31.43\00:19:35.40
but I have to get my rest.
00:19:35.44\00:19:37.81
When it comes
to the Word of God,
00:19:37.84\00:19:42.34
I heard you say, you
read the Steps to Christ,
00:19:42.38\00:19:44.61
that's every morning you
read the Steps to Christ?
00:19:44.65\00:19:46.98
Every morning when I wake up
00:19:47.02\00:19:48.35
and every night
before I go to sleep.
00:19:48.38\00:19:49.72
See just witness.
00:19:49.75\00:19:51.09
You just witness to me.
00:19:51.12\00:19:52.45
I've not picked up my little red
00:19:52.49\00:19:53.82
Steps to Christ book,
00:19:53.86\00:19:55.19
the little red book,
the little, you know,
00:19:55.22\00:19:57.53
paperback, I'm
reading all my other books.
00:19:57.56\00:20:00.13
I've been
reading Adventist Homes.
00:20:00.16\00:20:02.16
I've been reading
Patriarchs and Prophets.
00:20:02.20\00:20:04.00
I've been reading
Acts of the Apostle.
00:20:04.03\00:20:07.97
I've been
reading like those books,
00:20:08.00\00:20:09.37
but Steps to Christ
was a beautiful book.
00:20:09.40\00:20:12.57
And this book is
written by Ellen G. White.
00:20:12.61\00:20:15.94
And we use her
books in our church,
00:20:15.98\00:20:19.15
our schools and in our training,
00:20:19.18\00:20:21.48
amazing books.
00:20:21.52\00:20:23.18
So why Steps to Christ?
00:20:23.22\00:20:25.49
I was always told, you know,
Steps to Christ is a good book,
00:20:25.52\00:20:27.82
you have to reset to
Christ blah, blah, blah.
00:20:27.86\00:20:29.69
And, you know, I was
like, I just one day,
00:20:29.72\00:20:31.06
we're gonna try it.
00:20:31.09\00:20:32.43
Let's read it, it's one,
maybe two, three paragraphs
00:20:32.46\00:20:34.66
every morning, every night.
00:20:34.70\00:20:36.03
And so far, you
know, they weren't wrong.
00:20:36.06\00:20:37.97
It's a great book.
00:20:38.00\00:20:39.37
It's a great book.
00:20:39.40\00:20:40.74
So have you read
it all the way through
00:20:40.77\00:20:42.40
and you're reading it again?
00:20:42.44\00:20:43.77
I'm on Chapter 3
right now. Chapter 3.
00:20:43.81\00:20:45.97
So what have you learned
so far in Step to Christ?
00:20:46.01\00:20:49.18
A lot of the stuff is
just more of a recycling,
00:20:49.21\00:20:52.28
but it kind of just, it
kind of pushes the point,
00:20:52.31\00:20:55.08
you know, that God,
God's always going to be there.
00:20:55.12\00:20:57.69
You know, it doesn't
matter how low you think
00:20:57.72\00:20:59.52
you're going to get
00:20:59.55\00:21:00.89
or how low you
think you already are.
00:21:00.92\00:21:02.52
No, God is always
going to be right beside you.
00:21:02.56\00:21:04.79
It's going to be on
you'd have to push them away.
00:21:04.83\00:21:06.59
But he's not, you
know, he's not going to be,
00:21:06.63\00:21:08.36
he's going to be there.
00:21:08.40\00:21:09.73
You know, that's one
of the biggest points
00:21:09.76\00:21:12.23
that I've got
from the book so far.
00:21:12.27\00:21:13.60
That God will never leave you...
00:21:13.64\00:21:14.97
He'll never leave
you nor forsake you.
00:21:15.00\00:21:16.34
Or forsake you. That's right.
00:21:16.37\00:21:18.14
So being convicted with
God, a relationship with God,
00:21:18.17\00:21:23.38
having total
wellness, having good health,
00:21:23.41\00:21:27.45
when it comes to your mental
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and emotional
balance, all right?
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Are you dating? No.
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Would you date with?
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Okay, I'll just want to say,
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dating Adventist and
someone who's not in the church,
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because I when I
met Brother Nowlin,
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he was not
Seventh-day Adventist.
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But he was Catholic.
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But I witnessed him
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and I invited him
to Sabbath school.
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And he was like, what is this?
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And I said, Sabbath School,
we learn about the Bible.
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Three months later,
he was baptized, sink.
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And three years
later, we were married.
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And people will say,
well, what are you waiting for?
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I said, for God to
tell me to marry him.
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Because right now,
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all I'm supposed
to do is be a witness.
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So you know, you,
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you only tell me
nobody else to know.
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Are you dating? I'm not.
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You're not,
you're just at school.
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Yeah, at school.
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Focusing on your exercising,
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your relationship
with God most importantly,
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and just take piano your music.
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Yes. Any other instruments?
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No, I tried the
guitar for a bit.
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It was all right
as to for a class,
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two months I kept practicing.
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But then you know, I stopped.
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Okay.
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You know, why did you stopped
playing the piano before,
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was it just something
you decided to put down
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for a little while?
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Um, I was going to teach
it to different churches.
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I went to metropolitan for a bit
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and they had a
piano teacher there.
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And she was, she was
just abusive verbally,
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not physically, she
was just verbally abusive,
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telling me, no, you
had to do it this way.
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This is you play
like why you do it wrong.
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She called me.
She'll call me names.
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It was not kind of good names
and kind of had discouraged me.
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So I stopped for a
few years saying if,
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oh, she's saying we're doing
it wrong, and she's a teacher.
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So I'm doing it wrong.
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So you know, I
can't do it right.
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So I just stopped for a bit.
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One of my piano
teachers hit me on the hand.
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And that was, that was abuse.
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So that can
discourage a young person.
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And that's why we
have to be careful with you
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all in the church.
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Because once we
attack your mental health
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and your wellness,
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you're not going
to want to come back.
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You know, and you
know, we'll do it.
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We'll show you how it's done.
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Well, teachers, trainers,
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but you can talk to us in a way
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that's loving and kind,
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so that they want to come
back, you know and do something.
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I'm so happy that
you Regina, Lindsay,
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some of our young people
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at the City Temple
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
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have you pulling together
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from all the different churches.
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And I believe God
is going to use you all
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to help win others to Christ
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because we are
living in the last days.
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Do you believe that? Definitely.
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Tell me why you believe
that we are living in last days?
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All the signs that
are, you know, popping up,
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they just tell
that God's coming back,
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you know, all the
stuff is happening
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to the earth itself naturally.
00:24:11.08\00:24:13.42
And then you know, people just
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and then the Sunday laws
kind of becoming a little more,
00:24:15.65\00:24:17.89
little more
pushed, little more pushed.
00:24:17.92\00:24:19.82
I've noticed that, you know,
00:24:19.85\00:24:21.19
talking to different
people here and there.
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Just reading about
the signs of the times
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just in Bible
Revelation and in Job,
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you can definitely
see that this is the end.
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Almost definitely.
00:24:31.30\00:24:32.63
You know, when I was
reading the Great Controversy,
00:24:32.67\00:24:34.74
certain things
have already happened.
00:24:34.77\00:24:36.97
And then I go
back to Revelation,
00:24:37.01\00:24:39.07
I go back to Job,
the Book of Daniel,
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and there's just so
much and I'm not afraid,
00:24:41.58\00:24:43.65
you know, to read the Bible
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because these things must happen
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for Jesus to come.
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You know, are you excited
about Jesus coming again?
00:24:49.12\00:24:52.35
I am, I used to be kind of,
00:24:52.39\00:24:53.89
kind of scared because you know,
00:24:53.92\00:24:55.26
it's scary all
like, all the hailstorms
00:24:55.29\00:24:57.83
and the stars falling
and the blood moon and all,
00:24:57.86\00:25:01.00
this all these
natural phenomenons,
00:25:01.03\00:25:02.60
not counting what
people are going to do,
00:25:02.63\00:25:04.93
you know, it was,
it was kind of scary.
00:25:04.97\00:25:06.90
But then when you realize that,
00:25:06.94\00:25:09.27
after you finish the race
or after the fight is over,
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you know, which is just gonna be
00:25:11.97\00:25:13.38
happiness as you with him.
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And Jesus, you know,
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I don't care if I'm
in the front of the line,
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in the back of
the line, on the side,
00:25:18.95\00:25:21.28
you know, I was
reading where the 12 tribes.
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And when I took a
class at my church,
00:25:25.69\00:25:28.02
with my pastor,
my former pastor,
00:25:28.06\00:25:29.69
William Joseph,
00:25:29.72\00:25:31.06
and I was studying
about the books of the Bible,
00:25:31.09\00:25:34.50
the 12 tribes,
00:25:34.53\00:25:36.03
and I was able to learn
about my own personality,
00:25:36.06\00:25:39.03
and understand certain things,
00:25:39.07\00:25:40.97
why certain
things have happened.
00:25:41.00\00:25:43.77
But all these
things must come to pass
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for Jesus to come.
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Let me ask you this.
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Where do you see yourself
00:25:48.51\00:25:51.48
as a leader growing
up in the church now?
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Where do you see yourself?
00:25:55.02\00:25:56.38
Well now,
because I play the piano,
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I've been able to get
you want people to see,
00:25:59.35\00:26:03.06
I've been able to ask people,
00:26:03.09\00:26:04.43
you know, if you want
to do special music or not,
00:26:04.46\00:26:06.49
and I guess that's kind of my,
00:26:06.53\00:26:08.10
my way in, because, you know,
00:26:08.13\00:26:09.50
I hate talking
in front of people
00:26:09.53\00:26:11.13
as you can see.
00:26:11.17\00:26:13.23
You're doing great.
00:26:13.27\00:26:15.50
You know, but I
think me being a musician,
00:26:15.54\00:26:19.34
it just kind of paved
my path into leadership,
00:26:19.37\00:26:22.44
because soon, hopefully,
00:26:22.48\00:26:24.55
I plan to lead a
praise team down,
00:26:24.58\00:26:28.12
teach them their
parts and all that stuff,
00:26:28.15\00:26:29.82
and hopefully bring more people
into the church by doing that,
00:26:29.85\00:26:32.85
because you know,
lot of people love music.
00:26:32.89\00:26:34.39
So if you play a little
more, you know, I guess not,
00:26:34.42\00:26:37.76
not fashion gospel
music, but a little more,
00:26:37.79\00:26:39.86
the newer gospel music,
00:26:39.89\00:26:41.23
it'll kind of just
bring them more in.
00:26:41.26\00:26:42.83
So I guess, me as a
paste of a piano player,
00:26:42.86\00:26:45.77
it will be kind of my way in.
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Do you write?
00:26:47.50\00:26:48.94
I do. I do. No words.
00:26:48.97\00:26:50.61
It's mostly just instrumentals.
00:26:50.64\00:26:51.97
Just instrumental.
00:26:52.01\00:26:53.48
This young man, I've
seen him, he was so quiet,
00:26:53.51\00:26:57.01
shy, very, very humble.
00:26:57.05\00:27:00.02
Christ was humble.
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Royce, all I ask
is that you continue
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to keep your wellness with God.
00:27:05.02\00:27:07.56
Stay focused on God. I
thank you so much for coming.
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Any last words to
young people today
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about Jesus and
their relationship?
00:27:13.43\00:27:16.33
I would say the same
thing I told my workout friends,
00:27:16.36\00:27:19.73
you make time for what you want.
00:27:19.77\00:27:21.90
So even if it's a
five minute workout,
00:27:21.94\00:27:24.41
aiming to work out
eight minutes with God,
00:27:24.44\00:27:26.37
five minutes with God a day
00:27:26.41\00:27:28.68
is going to be enough
for where you are now.
00:27:28.71\00:27:32.51
I had a pastor once tell me
if you read at least a verse,
00:27:32.55\00:27:35.88
a verse a day is
better than nothing at all.
00:27:35.92\00:27:39.42
You make time for what you want.
00:27:39.45\00:27:40.79
If you want to be on
your phone, eight hours,
00:27:40.82\00:27:42.19
nine hours a day watching
TV or anything else you can,
00:27:42.22\00:27:44.96
you can do this.
00:27:44.99\00:27:46.33
You can work out,
you can read your Bible,
00:27:46.36\00:27:47.90
you can pray, you just have to,
00:27:47.93\00:27:49.90
you know, the
one is all mindset.
00:27:49.93\00:27:51.77
It's a mindset.
00:27:51.80\00:27:53.13
Did you hear
this young man said,
00:27:53.17\00:27:54.50
it's all a
mindset, mind over matter.
00:27:54.54\00:27:57.81
Well, I'm excited, and
I'm going to do even more,
00:27:57.84\00:28:00.74
studying more, and I
want to live to be well.
00:28:00.78\00:28:03.88
Thank you for
joining us once again
00:28:03.91\00:28:05.78
on the Dare to Dream Network.
00:28:05.81\00:28:07.35
I'm Dr. Kim. Live be well.
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God bless.
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