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Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlan
and welcome to Live To Be Well.
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What is Live To Be Well?
Mind, body and soul but the most
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important aspect, without God we
cannot live to be well. Today I
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am blessed to have on the
program Mr. Robert Pearson MBA
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Welcome to Live To Be
Well. How are you Robert?
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I'm well and yourself?
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I'm well. I like that I'm
well. You're well, I'm well.
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Let's talk about integrity and
ethics in business. Well first
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of all what is an MBA?
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It's a master's in business
administration. It is a masters
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degree typically provided
by accredited universities and
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colleges when people have
demonstrated the ability and
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knowledge and
discipline in business and
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business administration,
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how to manage complex
organizations, how to give with
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business management, finance,
logistics, accounting, things of
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that nature.
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Wow! You know speaking about one
of my business classes I did not
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like it. But it was helpful
as I look back over it now, what
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I'm doing now in business. Why
is integrity so important in the
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way we view business and
who we are as business owners?
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Integrity.
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Well integrity's very important
in business as well as in all
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aspects of life. I feel that
you're only as good as your word
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of course. And that's really
as far as the business owner's
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concerned that's your credit,
you know, how good your word is.
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If you say you're going to do
something you know on time and
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on price, you have to be a
person of high integrity or your
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business has to be a business
of integrity and deliver. If you
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don't well that's going to
affect your business negatively.
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And that goes from small
business owners all the way to
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corporate organizations,
you know, global conglomerates.
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It comes down to the individual
person's moral integrity, doing
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what's right. Myself personally
as a Christian, you know you
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want to do things justly and
with balance in accordance with
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the word. Ah, you know, God
doesn't like unjust measures. So
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you don't want to deal with
people unjustly, slightly. You
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don't to gouge people from a
biblical standpoint or a legal
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standpoint because they will
come back around on you. We all
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reap what we sow. [Yes] So with
that being said, you know, you
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treat people well. They
will return to you and they will
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treat you well in return.
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Was there any doubt or when did
you realize that this was the
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area that God was calling
you to? Was it in college, high
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school or when you were trying
to declare a major? What was it
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now that happened?
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Um, for the most part, I've
always wanted to be a business
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person. I just like the
idea of it. You know, maybe even
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watching old movies and seeing
people in suits and like you
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know doing stuff and counting
money. That just interests me.
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You know, I don't want to be
a doctor or a lawyer, et cetera,
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but I just gravitated towards
business. I went right to
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business school. I graduated
from Wayne State University
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getting my BA in finance and
also going back again to get my
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MBA as well. So I just took
all business classes I really
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enjoyed facets of business
administration, management, ah
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accounting, finance. I enjoyed
the analytical part of it, you
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know, forecasting, budgeting.
I just... I enjoyed it.
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You know I'm looking at you like
you know really! You talk the
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financier. I went in my first
accounting class. I only took
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one, you know, I said one, and
barely passed it because I just
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wasn't interested in it. But
I said let me take it and see if
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that's something I want to
do. I knew I wanted to go into
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business. I didn't know how
God was directing me. And then
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finally I said, That's why we
have other people like you and
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other people to do things like
that. So when you were growing
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up other children outside,
because you have height, did you
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play basketball? Did you take
time to get involved with that
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in sports?
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Oh no, I wasn't a great
basketball player but I did play
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football and I ran track in high
school. Then after high school
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just intramural stuff in college
I enjoy sports, I enjoy watching
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football as an adult now.
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Robert, tell me, how
important is finance and having
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integrity to it?
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It's very important especially
in the field of finance because
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you typically dealing with other
people's money so you have to be
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a good steward of their money.
So you have to build trust. You
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have to be a trustworthy person.
You have to be a credit worthy
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person. Um so integrity is
very, very huge dealing with all
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aspects of business but
particularly in finance.
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Come on. Your workplace, let's
discuss it. No matter what your
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occupation is you should
be using integrity on the job.
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If you work eight hours you
should be paid for eight hours.
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Don't sign in for 12 hours.
Integrity let's talk about that.
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Yeah, definitely you know you
should only be paid what you're,
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you know, for the time you
put in and compensated for it.
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That's just being fair. You
know as an employer you know you
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shouldn't look to hurt your
employees because that's gonna
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affect your business long
term. Also vice versa. From an
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employee's standpoint, it works
both ways. You don't want to
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steal from your company per
se or steal time. You know, it's
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one thing if you have a family
emergency, et cetera, and get
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permission to leave but you know
taking two-hour lunches is not a
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good thing either.
Also, affect your...
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That's integrity right there.
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Yeah, that's integrity because
I can't trust you to do what you
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say you are gonna do.
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So integrity, attitude,
trust all work together. [Um hm]
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People today in our society,
we don't see those components in
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the workplace. Why?
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Um unfortunately it's
just a cultural society issue.
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Um my opinion, we tend to
champion people with negative
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character traits so we
laud people who have you know
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cheated their way to the top
per se. And that becomes part of
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the collective conscience in
my opinion of how people kind of
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look at things. Oh you know my
favorite character did whatever
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it took to get to where he or
she's at so I'm gonna kind of do
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that my way. So for example
people who might be in a trusted
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position in the organization
or in the business over someone
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else's assets they might skim
from the top. You know creating
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fake invoices or doing things
that are not above board and
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figure that they might be
entitled to or I'm not getting
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enough money or whatever for
their personal reasons are it
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compels them to do wrong and
that's really prevalent in our
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society today. And it's
unfortunate. But the good thing
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is just as many bad
people there are good people.
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There are good people.
Let's talk about going back to
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wellness, stress. I remember
reading about a story about
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a gentleman who had embezzlement
embezzled millions of dollars
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from many, many, many people.
It impacted his whole family
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where even his son committed
suicide because he couldn't face
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the economic community for what
his father had done. So when I
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think about going back to middle
school, elementary school, high
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school someone looking on your
paper and saying You got the
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answer, you got the answer?
We don't think about that. Right
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there, that's where it begins,
that cheating off the top. I've
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studied all week and you come in
and want to cheat off my paper
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and that's right there,
integrity [Mm-hm] honesty.
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self-worth and it begins that
young and it continues all the
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way through life developing
those behavioral traits that now
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you come into my office and you
say Dr. Logan I've been arrested
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Arrested for what? Ah
embezzlement. Um I stole
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materials that didn't belong
to me and they are saying that
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part of my probation is
psychological counseling to
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understand why this behavior
happened. We're dealing with a
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lot of stress. Can you imagine
I'm looking over my shoulder FBI
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police. All right. One day I'll
tell a story, true story. I'm in
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my office, Robert, and I'm
seeing a client. There's a knock
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at the door and I didn't hear
the knock, but my administrator
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rarely, she rarely interrupts
my therapy session unless it's
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emergency. She knocked
on the door and she said
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(mouths) police. I said,
huh? She said police (out loud).
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And right there my mind did
not go anywhere, what'd I do, I
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been doing something wrong. I
told my patient could you excuse
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me a minute. I went out, spoke
to the two police officers. They
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told me what they were there
to do. They came to my office to
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arrest somebody who they knew
would be here but the person's
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appointment wasn't for an
hour later. But the fact of the
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matter was I didn't get
uncomfortable because I knew I
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had not done anything wrong with
you know my patient or sharing
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information or come on in my
office and read my files. No!
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But they told me why they were
there. I knew in advance because
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the other party told me they
were going to send the police
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here. But they were hoping
to arrest the person but that
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person had to deal with that,
turn themselves in because of
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integrity. So it all goes back
from a young child. You know, is
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there anything
wrong with hard work?
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There's nothing wrong with
it. I mean, even in the book of
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Proverbs you know the diligent
maketh rich, the diligent hand
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maketh rich. So it's seed
time and harvest. So those are
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principles in the Bible and
that's also translated to the
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rest of the world.
You're getting what you put in.
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So if you put in negative things
you get out negative things.
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So it's unfortunate that people
feel that way but you know no
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good can come out of it because
you know what you're question
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regarding wellness. I think the
Bible says the wages of sin is
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death. So when you're doing
fraudulent things, untrustworthy
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things it will take a toll
on you. Yeah your bank account
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might go up but your health
is going to go down. I heard
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similar stories you know people
getting hundreds of thousands,
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millions of dollars but soon
they catch cancer or maybe their
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child dies an untimely death.
Those things, you know, it all
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comes around.
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The Bible also says what does it
profit a man to gain the whole
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world (reciting together) and
loose your own soul. We are in a
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place where we're chasing that
dollar, but yet our hearts are
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not fixed on Christ and if
we are faithful to God he's
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faithful to us. And therefore
my mind says I should not be on
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stress I want to have
good wellness in my life total
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balance and I don't want to reap
negativity because that's what I
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put out. I don't want to have
to look over my shoulder because
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I've been stealing and I've been
skimming off the top and hurting
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people. Because God sees
every thing and he knows and he
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already knows what we're going
to do and what we're not going
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to do. And so we have to change
the way we think, Robert, to
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healthiness, have good wellness
to reduce stress and anxiety.
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People jumping off of buildings
because of... Remember the stock
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market crash, many, many, many
years ago and people literally
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jumped out of windows because
they lost everything. But I
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believe if we have confidence
in our Savior, our Lord and
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Savior Jesus Christ, and we
stand by the principles of the
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word of God and we listen to
what the Holy Spirit speaks to
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us and when those temptations
come they just go right past us.
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Because God says Trust in me.
Seek my way. He said, Seek ye
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first the kingdom of God. All
right, you know I don't get up
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in the morning and say, Oh let's
see what the stock market is
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saying today. I hit my knees or
I stand or I'm praising God to
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guide me throughout that
day. I'm in my Word trying to
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understand what do you have
for me to say to Robert today.
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What can I say to encourage
someone today? So when we talk
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about integrity and
ethics what's the difference?
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Okay I have integrity but I
don't have ethics. I have ethics
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but I don't have integrity.
Who cares? What's the difference
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Sure. You ethics is your belief
system, if your good beliefs you
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know or moral beliefs or immoral
beliefs. Your integrity is your
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trustworthiness and
your credibility. So they
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particularly go hand in hand
with one another. You know, is
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your belief system good? Your
trustworthiness will be high.
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You just said credibility too.
I think about... you know I was
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talking to my program director
Jason Bradley of Dare to Dream
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and he was saying to me that
when people look at social media
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it could cost you your job.
Can you talk about that because
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it's your integrity?
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Sure. Exactly. Particularly
in large organizations they do
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investigate people with
social media because during the
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interview process you're
presenting yourself one way but
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they want to know how you truly
are to the rest of the world.
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So you know most large
organizations do have people
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investigate people's social
media to see what's really going
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on. Particularly if you're going
to be in charge of something
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very important. If you're going
to be a steward over someone's
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large assets, they want to know
what kind of person you really
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are, what kind of integrity
do you truly have, what kind of
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ethics do you have. So they
will look at your social media.
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So and that could or
would cost you opportunities.
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Yes I think about how people
find me, you know, and I'm very
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grateful, I'm humbled by
the reviews people write and the
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first thing people say they look
at the accounts of my character
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based on the reviews that
people have written. And you
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know what I say, I say praise
the Lord and I thank the Lord
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for my wonderful clients and
patients. I love them, they love
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me and I don't believe that...
And they have it set up where
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you cannot do that. You know of
course you could create an email
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but you don't create 50 emails
and write and some do but I did
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not do that. So all the reviews
that's on the internet about me
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other people wrote and I'm very
grateful. Sometimes I go back
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and I read them and integrity
counts and character and also
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being honest of who you are.
Honesty. Why is it important
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that we are honest people?
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Well to be honest well as
believers, we should be honest.
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And all people should be honest.
You want to deal with honest,
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trustworthy people. So it's very
important to be honest in all
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aspects because it transcends
all aspects of life. So you know
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if you're dishonest you can't be
dishonest in business and then
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expect your children to be
honest with you. So they will
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just pick up on what you're
doing and they'll incorporate
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that in their own personal
lives. So it's all relevant.
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And it cycles because think
about when children tell little
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stories and sometimes people say
oh that's so cute. No, that is
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not cute. I remember my mom,
she was standing right there
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but I did not see her. She
was on the outside glass of my
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grandmother's home. And I saw my
mom's purse and I looked, but I
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never looked out past the couch
and I went in her purse and I
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took a quarter, a quarter. My
mother came in and she saw me.
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She said, Did you go in my
purse? And I said, No ma'am.
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Lie number one. Did you
take anything out of my purse?
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No ma'am. Lie number two.
Number three, did you take money
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out of my purse? Mm-mm. My!
I couldn't sit for three days.
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She said, You cannot lie.
Now all right. People who are
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sinners saved by grace. People
lie, they fabricate the truth.
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They embellish the truth but
only God can help us stop that
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negative behavior because lying
and being dishonest can cost you
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your life also. It can put you
in a place... That's why today
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our prison system is overcrowded
for various reasons but it
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started with negative behavior.
That should have been stopped
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long before they got into
their teenage years and older.
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But someone ignored it or well
it's okay. Should we just say
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it's okay or should we say
to our children, This is wrong.
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Yeah, you should say to
your children yes this is wrong
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because it starts at an early
age. Children tend to develop
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their personalities around
age five. So like you mentioned,
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these little white lies, you
know, a lot of people laugh it
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off and it's cute, but what
happens is they get positive
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reinforcement from that so
they'll continue to do it on a
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grander scale as they go through
life. I had a very similar
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scenario with my own children.
My oldest, I asked her to do
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something and I followed up
with her, Did you do it? And of
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course she said yes, but when
I went back to check on it, it
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hadn't been done. And I asked
her, Why did you tell me a lie?
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And you know she couldn't give
me a true response but she kind
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of just blushed. I said, you
know, lying is wrong and it's
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not good and given our belief
system, you know, we say Jesus
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isn't like that you know on the
young person's scale. So I want
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to give them good ethics
and good belief system so I tell
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them lying is wrong. I had
to start early and give them
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negative reinforcement when
they do that versus positive
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reinforcement because it
just will become a part of them.
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So then after you matriculate
in life and you become an adult
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you're getting away with lying
and cheating for so long. Here I
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am in the business sense and I'm
dealing with whatever scenario
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and I'm going to lie and
cheat [Right] to get over.
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No one ever stopped me and
therefore the behavior just
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continued to build like those
building blocks and then it
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comes in like a domino effect.
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Right and it
affects your integrity.
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And your integrity... And then
once you've been arrested and
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dealing with finances and other
areas, you can't work in that
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field anymore.
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No because now
you're untrustworthy.
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Right. If you have a felony,
you've been an attorney, you
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cannot practice law.
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You'll be disbarred.
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You're disbarred.
That's your integrity. So...
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Same thing in the
medical profession as well.
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Medical profession as well. I
could lose my license for doing
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something that is not ethical
or it's the integrity behind it.
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I remember we were being...
You know Arthur. And they came
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in to meet with me, the Internal
Revenue Service and an insurance
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company was helping us
set up things. I'd just gone
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through a fire
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and they were meeting with my
administrator, Ms. Anderson and
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I and walking through things.
And I said, Well this lady said
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that I did not do the work. So
I got a letter from an insurance
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company. So the insurance
company called and said,
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Dr. Logan, you have no record of
any problems with your integrity
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I said but she was in the
therapy session. I was talking
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to her son, he could not... well
he had difficulty speaking so
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she would answer the questions.
So I billed her for the hour,
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billed him because they both
were in the session. She said,
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How dare you bill me? That's
fraud. So when the insurance
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company called they said, Dr.
Logan, send back the money and
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we close this out. We know she
was in the session, she knew she
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was in the session but she said
it was for my son. But how could
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he answer the questions if you
didn't answer, he couldn't speak
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well. And so I sent it back. A
month later she said, I'm going
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to find someone else to service
my son. And I said you have that
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right. And I didn't say anything
I said thank you for the
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opportunity to serve you. A
month later she called and said
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I need your help. My son will
not respond to anyone but you.
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And I had to say I'm sorry,
I have no openings until about
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another six months. I was
backed up. So she said I want to
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apologize how I treated you
and I want to send you back the
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money that you sent back. I said
No, no, no, no, no, we're good.
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And I'll let you know if I can
ever see your son. Sweet young
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man. So I knew that I had
not done anything. So the other
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company said what they do,
they go after people who bill
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millions and millions of dollars
and they're not seeing these
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patients. Their integrity is
not in place. So I think I owed
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86 cents and I was like thank
you Jesus. But the man said
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Write me a check for 86 cents.
So that was ethics and integrity
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You know you are a private
practice, small business, but
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they are big people out here who
are stealing and it's impacting
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the church, it's impacting
hospitals, businesses and then
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our taxes go up. Then things
go up for us because they got to
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make this money up
somehow, some way. Am I correct?
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Correct. No, it's the people
with low integrity and people
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who steal and do
these fraudulent activities.
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Unfortunately the good people
pay for it and that's in all
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aspects from insurance to
health services to even consumer
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products and services. Because
when someone steals from the
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store the store, or the company
that runs the store are going to
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pass that loss on to the
consumer. They're going to raise
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the price up on each consumer
item. You know, we all pay for
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someone else's misdeeds and
that person is going to pay a
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different way. But, yeah, it all
comes around full circle how we
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treat others in business and how
we treat others in our personal
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lives. It all comes around full
circle. That example you just
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mentioned. The woman offered you
an apology and unfortunately she
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was at a loss because
of her misguided ways.
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And I truly did not have an
opening for six months. But I
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would not have lied. Because
that's the whole point, you know
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I'm going to... See because her
son was in so much need. But the
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other part of it was that really
stressed me. I was hurt by it
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my reputation. It only
takes one person to ruin your
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reputation. [Damage
your high integrity.]
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Yes I have high integrity but
I was under a lot of stress and
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they came through that door to
meet with me and all I had to do
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and I said, Fine I'll just send
it back. Even if a person wrote
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one review about me. And I
tried to explain to them. So the
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person asked me to lie when I
went to court. I said, I can't
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do that, that's perjury and I'm
not going to go to jail for you.
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So the person said, Well fine,
I'm going to write this review
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about you and no one's
going to do business with you.
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But greater is He that's in
me than he that's in the world.
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I am, that I am has sent you
all right. So my god said you do
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what is right and I will cover
you in every aspect. And that's
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the key, we have to have a
connection to the Lord. We have
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to implement prayer in the
studying of the word of God so
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that we will not make those kind
of mistakes. And I never stole
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another quarter from my mom.
You know. Now when my husband
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was alive he would put all his
change on the dresser, all right
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and he never counted it, and his
dollars from golf. So I would
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tell my little girl. Come here,
come here. I said, Let's get all
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daddy's coins. So he would
get up the next morning, Hey
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what happened to all my change?
I said, I put it up to protect
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you, all right. And do you know,
we had jars here, here, here
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and it was a blessing. Listen
you have been amazing. I really
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appreciate what I've learned
today about integrity and also
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ethics. Last 20 seconds,
tell us what we need to do to be
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better people.
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Well, keep God first in your
life. Treat others as you want
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to be treated Always think about
the greater scheme of things
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and how it will affect you when
you're presented with a negative
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situation. Pray.
Surround yourself with people of
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good integrity.
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I think that's so important
Robert. I know you and you know
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me. See it has to work both ways
because I may want to be your
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friend but you may say well
Dr. Kim you're not someone I
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want in my circles. Be very
mindful who you associate with
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because "guilty by association."
You could be attached to a crime
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because you were in that car.
Your integrity... The Bible says
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your reputation is far above
rubies and gold. I want to thank
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you so much for being with
us today on Live To Be Well. And
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remember without having
God there is no aspect of
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understanding what Live To
Be Well is all about because he
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he brings us all together. Have
integrity, have ethics, have you
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know the aspect of how
you treat others. You reap
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what you sow. Ask, don't take
something that doesn't belong to
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you. And remember, that God is
willing, am I right Robert? to
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bless you abundantly.
I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlan.
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Ethics and integrity. With
God you're on the right track.
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Live To Be Well.
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