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Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin,
and welcome to Live To Be Well.
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What is live to be well?
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Mind, body, and soul,
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but most of all,
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having that great relationship
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with our Lord and
Savior Jesus Christ.
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Today, I want to
talk about tender healing.
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Why?
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Because my special
guest Felicia Hunter
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is a pediatric nurse.
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Welcome, Felicia, how are you?
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I'm well, thank you.
Thank you for having me.
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You are welcome.
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Not only are you
a pediatric nurse,
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but you're very
special to me because you're my
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sister in Christ.
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We worship at the City Temple
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Seventh-day
Adventist Church together.
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Well, let's talk
about how did you
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decide to become
a pediatric nurse?
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Actually it's, was a
long journey getting there.
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I taught elementary
school before becoming a nurse.
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I didn't know that. Yes.
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I taught elementary school
kindergarten, first, second,
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and third grade.
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I had a daughter,
my oldest daughter.
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And when she was first
born, the doctors told me,
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take her home, let her go.
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She won't survive.
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My mom moved in.
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I knew she was going
to have some challenges
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and my mom helped
nurse her back to health.
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She is now 40, 40 years old.
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She has four children.
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The only deficit she has,
she wears corrective lenses
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and some mild scoliosis.
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So I figured if she was
going to be in the hospital,
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I might as well be there too.
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Yes.
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Tell us what mild scoliosis
is so people can understand?
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Scoliosis is a disease
of the spine, where you have
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a curvature and sometimes
it can be corrected with
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a spinal fusion
to make it straight
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where they put a rod in.
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With her we opted
not because it's so minor
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that you can't notice it.
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It's just a curvature.
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You might see a
hip that's higher.
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You might see
where they're crooked.
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Sometimes it's
correctable, sometimes it's not.
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Yeah, I see. All right.
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So from your
daughter being, you know,
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God healing her,
what happened after that?
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After that I
went back to school,
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had to catch the
bus back and forth
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'cause I got a
divorce during that time.
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Catch the bus back and
forth, went to Mercy College,
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which is way on
outer drive in Southfield.
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Then I graduated from
there. Started working.
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I worked at Samaritan,
worked at Detroit Receiving,
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worked at Detroit Memorial
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and then found my
way to children's.
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When I found my
way to children's
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I started on the
urology-nephrology floor.
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We did dialysis,
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I stayed there for two years
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and then moved to intensive
care where I found my niche,
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which was intensive care.
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So it was a journey.
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So what do you do
exactly every day?
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What is a day like for you?
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A day like for me is
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getting up going
in, getting report,
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making sure my
patients are okay.
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Checking drips.
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If they're intubated
with a breathing tube,
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making sure the
breathing tube is secure,
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comforting parents,
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crowd control
when families come in
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during difficult situations
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and just basic
medical management.
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What causes some of
the issues with the babies?
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What happens
during the pregnancy?
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What happens?
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Well, we see children anywhere
from newborn through adults.
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So a lot of our children
come in with congenital defects,
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meaning heart,
lungs, liver, kidneys.
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So we see the whole gamut.
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This season we're going to start
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seeing a lot of children,
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babies in particular with RSV.
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And that's a
respiratory infection.
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For us it's just
like a, maybe a bad cold,
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but for them because
their lungs are so little,
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it can be deadly.
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So when the
parents bring them in,
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we manage them
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sometimes with
respiratory support
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other times with fluid,
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other times with
just watching them
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and just loving them.
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Yes, is it difficult for you?
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At times, yes.
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It was really
difficult in the beginning
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but had it not been for
my faith and my strength,
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I couldn't do this.
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There's no way you can do
this day in day out without God.
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You need God in your life.
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Felicia, tell us, have
you ever had a situation
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where you had to
step aside with a patient
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and just pray with them?
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Yes.
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Just last week I
had a 14 year old girl
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who had gone to
an amusement park.
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She comes to the
hospital several times
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with various complaints
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and they kept sending her home.
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So finally, after the third time
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she went to the clinic,
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the clinic
directly admitted her to us
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and it was found
that she had a stroke.
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So we started treating her.
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Then her blood pressure went up.
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She had another stroke
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and it got to the point
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to where she was
having difficulty breathing
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because the accident caused
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what's called a
dissection of the vertebrae.
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And it was so minor
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that it couldn't be
detected by the bare eye.
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She had to have a CAT scan MRI,
and that's where they saw it.
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So they told this young lady
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that she was going to
need a breathing tube.
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And she asked me, she said,
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"Ms. Felicia, can
you pray with me?"
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Wow. She asked you?
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She asked me.
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Now when we first
met, I knew her before,
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when we first met, she said,
"What church do you go to?"
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I said, "What makes
you think I go to church?"
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She said,
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"Because God's there.
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I know God's here
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and I know I'm
going to be all right."
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So we bonded.
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We talked and throughout
the first day I had her,
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she said,
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"Okay, let's pray.
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You're going home. Let's pray."
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So when I came
in to see her again,
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she said, "Ms. Felicia, I'm
not doing well. Can we pray?"
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So we pray before.
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And then before the
breathing tube went in,
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we prayed again.
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And she just broke my
heart because she's so sweet.
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I mean, determined,
her friends came in,
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formed a circle
around her and prayed.
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So when she woke up, she said,
you know, she couldn't talk.
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She was like I said,
okay, we're going to pray.
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Let's pray.
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God's got you.
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God has you. Yes.
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Gets very emotional. It does.
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So I had to step aside
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because we're not supposed
to show emotion, you know?
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So...
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Are you not allowed to
pray with families is that,
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you know, within the regulations
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of the hospital?
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It's not within the regulation.
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However, I work with
quite a few non-believers.
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I see. And...
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There's a conflict
there. There's a conflict there.
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So the respect have,
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the boundaries
have to be respected,
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but you have to do what
the Lord leads you to do.
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Definitely.
Definitely. You know?
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Can you imagine you
saying to that young lady?
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No, I can't pray with you.
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And I've seen
situations like that
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and I've stepped in to
say, I'll pray with you.
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I've been in situations where
I've been in the supermarket
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and I've seen
people just break down.
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I remember when I
lost Arthur and I,
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we had, no, we had the fire.
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This is before Arthur passed.
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My building, my prior building,
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where I was renting burned down
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and I had to go into a
store to buy some supplies.
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And I literally just
collapsed on the floor.
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Like I looked at an
ink pen and I collapsed.
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I said, "How do
I do this again?"
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And I said, "I
just can't do this."
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And I said, "Lord someone,
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I need someone to
pray with me right now."
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And just out of
nowhere, someone came and said,
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"Are you all right?"
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I said, "Can you
just pray with me?"
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I mean, even this morning
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I was coming in
with a lot of things
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and I needed some
assistance, but the young lady,
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a young lady in
the another business,
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you know, in the
building, she said,
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"Can I get you some water?"
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And I said, "No.
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I said, but I could
sure use a hug right now."
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And she hugged me.
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And then, you know, the
staff from 3ABN Dare to Dream,
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came down and helped
me bring my things up.
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But we've got to be
ready to step in, you know,
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and give that tender healing.
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Let's talk about
your walk with Christ.
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You are a Seventh-day Adventist.
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You are our
personal ministry leader.
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I see you up there
every Sabbath leading out.
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What is personal
ministry all about?
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Personal ministries is everyone.
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It involves, it encompasses
everyone in the church because
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every ministry in the church,
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people think
that you're in office
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and only you're
supposed to do this.
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It's everyone.
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And what I do is remind people,
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remind the different ministry
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leaders that we
need to come together.
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Remind our church
members that you're a part
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of this body of believers.
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It's not one person leading out.
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It's everyone.
It's, it takes us all.
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You know, it's
that personal touch.
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It's you talking to a neighbor.
It's you handing out a track.
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It's you holding a door.
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Yes.
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You know, all of
that is a ministry,
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so let's make it personal.
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You're so friendly.
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I see you at
the, in the corridor,
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in the vestibule.
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You're just, hi, hi,
just speaking to everyone.
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And it's a special bond
with Christ you have to have.
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You know, why do you love God?
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Why is He in your life?
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Because He's
brought me through so much.
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He's brought me through so much,
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you know, I was in
an abusive relationship
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and I died.
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I literally died
and He brought me back.
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What do you mean
you literally died?
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I mean, I literally died.
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Your heart
beating, your husband?
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My husband. Yes.
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Did he, was it
physically? It was physical.
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And you died after when
you arrived at the hospital?
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I had no vital signs.
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No vital signs.
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So I had to learn to
do things differently,
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learn to think differently.
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It was just an experience
and I know without Him,
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I couldn't have made it.
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So the Lord allowed you to live.
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To live.
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After there was no
vital sound, signs.
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And you were
pronounced dead, it was done.
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I wasn't
pronounced. I just had no vitals
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No vital signs.
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And so at that
time, when you awakened,
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you were in the
hospital? I was in the hospital.
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Didn't know how I got
there. Didn't know anything.
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So as a result of that,
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I still have
some residual effects
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where sometimes
I'm left with headaches
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and sometimes I
might lose sight or speech.
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However, He brings me
through every single time.
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So He's brought
me through so much.
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I am just baffled because here
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I go to church
with you every week,
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every Saturday,
unless one of us is away.
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And I never knew this about you.
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And I don't know if you've
ever shared your testimony
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or I'm honored to be able
to be sitting in front of you
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right now, to look at
this woman who smiles.
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You don't understand.
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I see this woman
smiling every Sabbath.
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I mean, when we're
both there greeting people,
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standing up in front
of the church at 11:20,
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11:25 personal
ministry time, delivering books,
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delivering this, doing this.
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And I had no idea.
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See, this is why, you
know, judge not to be judged.
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We don't know someone's story.
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We can look at someone and say,
well, why are they doing that?
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Why are they acting that
way? Why do they walk that way?
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It could have been an
injury. We just don't know.
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We need to stop and extend
ourselves in a loving manner.
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You know, I just tender
healing, tender healing.
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Yes, definitely.
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So this is why you better shout.
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This is why you love the Lord.
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This is why I love Him.
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And this is why you serve Him.
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This is why I serve Him.
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You know, with having
children and grandchildren,
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the Lord has
protected from various things,
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various illnesses.
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He brought my daughter through,
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my oldest daughter
lost a child last year.
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Oh, I'm so sorry.
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And He brought her
through that from thinking about
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not being here anymore
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and her not believing,
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He turned her into a believer
because He brought her through.
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Did you attend Oshkosh? I did.
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Just wait a minute. Yes, I did.
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What did you know, is that
a part of personal ministry?
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Does that fall, because all
the ministries fall under that?
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They do.
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So what were you
doing? I'm speechless.
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At Oshkosh, I was a
camp nurse, also a chaperone,
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also kitchen assistance.
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So whatever was
needed, that's what...
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Name it, you were
there. I was there.
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And you know I didn't think
about that they needed nurses.
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Because the only thing you know
could happen to those children
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or an adult, you know,
were there any casualties
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or everything was kind of quiet?
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Praise God, City
Temple had no casualties.
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Yes. We had no casualties.
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I did have occasion
to visit other camps
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and they were
having some issues.
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I delivered some of our ACE reps
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and you know, so...
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In that way you could. Exactly.
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That's a blessing. Exactly.
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Oshkosh was a blessing.
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Why was Oshkosh
a blessing for you?
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It was a blessing because
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this was the
second time in my life
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that I've ever gone tenting.
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Never gone tenting. Tenting.
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Did you hear her
say tenting? Tenting.
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Yes.
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In a tent, outside, you
know, you go to camp meeting,
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you stay in it in the cabin.
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No, in a tent. In a tent.
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Porta Johns, community showers.
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It was an experience. Yes.
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Let me go back and let
you know what Oshkosh is.
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It's the annual gathering,
they meet every five years.
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Every five years.
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Every five years
in, at Wisconsin.
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At Wisconsin.
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And this is where all our
pathfinders and all our...
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Are the
adventurers also are involved?
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There are some
adventurers there.
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But it's mainly
for the pathfinders.
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Yes.
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And they gather, and
they earn their badges
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and they learn about Christ
and they learn how to survive.
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I was a pathfinder,
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'cause I used to get
in trouble all the time.
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And I was always on
punishment for the big trip.
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My mother would
get me with that.
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All right.
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And she would let me go
and go and go and give her,
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she would give
her a tender healing.
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She would make deposits.
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And then she
would make one withdraw.
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Okay, with that belt. Yes.
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She said, I see that
belt's not working on you, Kim.
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So she would take the
big events away from me,
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like yes.
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And I, then I learned
to keep my mouth closed.
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I stopped talking
back, stopped doing things
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that were disrespectful.
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And I got tired of that belt.
So my dad would not whip us.
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My dad would not
whip me and my sister.
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She was just so good and nice.
I didn't like her at first.
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And then as she was
just a little bitty baby,
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I said, well, she can't talk.
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So my mother
taught me tender healing,
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how to control what I
did so that I can be involved
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with the pathfinders more.
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And so, but she had to use
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that technique to
help me to develop.
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I want you to know, I
have been to camp meeting,
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I still attend camp meeting.
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I lived in a tent for
six years at camp meeting.
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Really?
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And there were no Porta Johns.
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We had to walk to the
main house, community showers.
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We lived on the grass,
our sleeping bag and blanket.
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There were no cots.
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So yes, I am a
survivor of tenting, all right?
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Praise God. And I do plan.
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If it's all in God's
will, I plan to attend Oshkosh
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the next five, the next one.
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Please do.
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And I've heard so much about it,
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as they say it's
an amazing experience.
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It is. I plan to be there.
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All right? We'll
go tenting together.
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All right?
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Let's talk about
your favorite scripture.
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You said you had a
couple of favorite scriptures?
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Yeah. What are they?
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Well, one is, "In the
beginning was the Word
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and the Word was God."
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So the reason why
that's my favorite scripture
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is because in the
beginning was the Word
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and the Word was God.
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That says it all.
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That says it, in the beginning
and the end there's God.
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That's it. That's it.
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That's it. It's non-negotiable.
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It's non-negotiable.
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In the beginning,
the middle, the end.
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That's it.
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And is there another scripture
that you really lean on?
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"The word is a lamp unto my
feet and a light unto my path."
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Yes. So again, the Word.
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The Word. It's about the Word.
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If you allow the
Word, open the book,
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allow the Word to be your guide,
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no matter what you're
going through in your life.
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If you open that Bible,
that scripture will be there.
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He will place that.
Therefore you just open it.
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Let's go back to something,
you know, in mental health,
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you deal with that also.
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Yes. And the stress on your job?
00:19:15.18\00:19:17.65
Let's talk about
the stress on your job?
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What kind of
stress do you endure?
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It's stressful,
not with the patients
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because the
patients are wonderful.
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Our parents are wonderful.
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Sometimes
during times of crisis,
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when they lose a child,
it becomes a bit challenging.
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However, we have a
good support system.
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Yes.
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We have a really
good support system.
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The nurses come
around, they'll help you out.
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We have pastoral
care that's available.
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They'll help you out.
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And then during the
day, all during the day,
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I constantly pray.
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Just pray, pray,
pray, pray, pray.
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Because I know
you've the chaplain
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where they can go and pray.
00:20:03.90\00:20:05.23
There's a place they can go,
00:20:05.27\00:20:07.00
but to have that
human touch there.
00:20:07.04\00:20:09.70
So this is why it's
so important that you
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study your Word, you know
your Sabbath school lesson.
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And when you
stand in front of us,
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you are a person and
personal ministry leader
00:20:18.48\00:20:22.12
to be able to say that
please get involved in our
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church ministries
and because there's,
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Felicia, do you agree
that there's something
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for everyone in the church?
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Almost definitely.
Why do you believe that?
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No matter what your
age, you can be a baby,
00:20:33.40\00:20:36.83
you know, you have
a role in the church.
00:20:36.87\00:20:39.10
Your role in the church
is to deliver happiness,
00:20:39.13\00:20:43.61
to let you know
that there's life.
00:20:43.64\00:20:46.84
You know, this
baby represents life.
00:20:46.88\00:20:49.44
And you look back at
this baby and remember,
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you might not remember
when you were that small.
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However you
remember your children,
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your grandchildren,
00:20:57.29\00:20:58.62
and a senior citizen
will look at a baby and smile,
00:20:58.65\00:21:02.59
no matter what's going on.
00:21:02.62\00:21:03.96
You can't look at
a baby and not smile.
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Yes, that's true You can't.
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So we all have a role.
00:21:07.80\00:21:09.23
We all have a role. You know.
00:21:09.26\00:21:10.77
Those seniors who think
no, I can't do anything.
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Yes. You can do something.
00:21:13.87\00:21:16.10
We have telephone ministry.
00:21:16.14\00:21:18.14
We have where you can
mail things out to people.
00:21:18.17\00:21:22.78
We have a book ministry,
we have a mentorship ministry,
00:21:22.81\00:21:27.02
which we are going to get
started because you have your
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younger people and you
have your older people.
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Your older people have history.
00:21:33.79\00:21:35.96
Your younger
people have technology.
00:21:35.99\00:21:38.09
Your older people want to
learn how to work technology.
00:21:38.13\00:21:41.53
My aunt is 90 years old
00:21:41.56\00:21:43.77
and she has
mastered social media.
00:21:43.80\00:21:46.94
I talk to her
more on social media
00:21:46.97\00:21:50.24
than I talk to her by telephone.
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If I want, if I need to
reach my 90 year old aunt,
00:21:52.21\00:21:55.14
I have to reach
her on social media.
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Praise God. It's amazing.
00:21:57.25\00:21:58.88
She said, reach
me on social media.
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All right? Okay.
00:22:00.52\00:22:01.85
And so let me ask you this.
00:22:01.88\00:22:03.72
I want to see
implementing in our church
00:22:03.75\00:22:06.59
and our personal
ministry, a program to help
00:22:06.62\00:22:09.32
with domestic violence.
00:22:09.36\00:22:11.43
We need a program,
Felicia, dealing with grief.
00:22:11.46\00:22:13.86
When I lost my
mother, my father, my brother,
00:22:13.90\00:22:18.33
now my husband, I had
to start my own program,
00:22:18.37\00:22:22.57
Live To Be Well.
00:22:22.60\00:22:23.94
I have a women's program
because there wasn't an outlet
00:22:23.97\00:22:27.31
for me at any of our churches
00:22:27.34\00:22:30.18
and I'm not
bashing our churches,
00:22:30.21\00:22:31.58
but we need to
really raise the bar.
00:22:31.61\00:22:35.48
And so if you're the
person I need to come to,
00:22:35.52\00:22:38.82
you know, we're doing
a program coming up soon
00:22:38.85\00:22:40.92
for domestic violence,
00:22:40.96\00:22:42.52
but I would like
to offer my services
00:22:42.56\00:22:45.26
and my colleagues services
00:22:45.29\00:22:47.43
free of charge to
implement a workshop,
00:22:47.46\00:22:51.67
a training once a quarter,
00:22:51.70\00:22:54.47
you know, and also like I did,
00:22:54.50\00:22:57.11
I was a Sabbath
school superintendent
00:22:57.14\00:22:59.01
and we incorporated domestic
violence into the Sabbath
00:22:59.04\00:23:02.54
school because I think
it's important to mention
00:23:02.58\00:23:05.71
what those statistics are.
00:23:05.75\00:23:07.08
And you, weren't you one of my
speakers for domestic violence?
00:23:07.12\00:23:10.59
I'm going to talk
to you about that.
00:23:10.62\00:23:12.02
All right?
00:23:12.05\00:23:13.39
Here you are asking me for all
the information in a flyer and,
00:23:13.42\00:23:16.39
but I did know
your story, you know,
00:23:16.42\00:23:18.76
and I am just
willing to share my gifts
00:23:18.79\00:23:22.30
and talents within my church.
00:23:22.33\00:23:24.33
So how many other
people at City Temple
00:23:24.37\00:23:27.30
and other churches have been
involved with domestic violence
00:23:27.34\00:23:31.24
and we don't know
or are in it right now
00:23:31.27\00:23:34.88
and they don't
have anywhere to go.
00:23:34.91\00:23:37.15
So I had to
start my own program,
00:23:37.18\00:23:39.81
but I need people
to minister to me,
00:23:39.85\00:23:42.22
pour into me.
00:23:42.25\00:23:43.75
And so, I will be
calling you to see
00:23:43.79\00:23:46.69
how we can
implement this in City Temple.
00:23:46.72\00:23:49.92
And I want to encourage
all our viewers to think
00:23:49.96\00:23:52.86
about implementing this.
00:23:52.89\00:23:54.40
If you are the personal
ministry leader of your church,
00:23:54.43\00:23:57.03
let's review the
ministries of the church.
00:23:57.07\00:24:00.24
Can we think outside the
box? Can we do that, Felicia?
00:24:00.27\00:24:02.94
Yes.
00:24:02.97\00:24:04.31
What does that mean
to think outside the box?
00:24:04.34\00:24:05.97
It means to do
something that hasn't been done.
00:24:06.01\00:24:09.64
To do something
that's not traditional.
00:24:09.68\00:24:12.51
So often we have to stick
is like this is by the book.
00:24:12.55\00:24:17.49
It has to be like this.
00:24:17.52\00:24:18.89
If it's not in
here, uh-uh-uh, no.
00:24:18.92\00:24:21.86
So we need to get beyond that
00:24:21.89\00:24:24.23
and realize that those methods
that were utilized in 1932
00:24:24.26\00:24:29.03
are no longer
effective right now.
00:24:29.06\00:24:32.00
We have to meet the
needs of the congregation.
00:24:32.03\00:24:35.57
I remember when I
started God's Hands of Praise
00:24:35.60\00:24:37.77
and some of the
members on the board,
00:24:37.81\00:24:40.31
they were like, we
don't need sign language.
00:24:40.34\00:24:43.08
There's no one hearing
impaired in our church.
00:24:43.11\00:24:45.75
But what if
someone came to our church?
00:24:45.78\00:24:48.48
What if we put it on the website
00:24:48.52\00:24:50.75
that we offer these services?
00:24:50.79\00:24:52.39
I am a sign interpreter.
00:24:52.42\00:24:54.32
I'll, I'm
offering my services free.
00:24:54.36\00:24:57.03
And sure enough, I never forget
a young lady that was visiting
00:24:57.06\00:25:00.76
Detroit from Boston was looking
for a Seventh-day Adventist
00:25:00.80\00:25:04.67
Church with
interpreting and she came
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and she joined
God's Hands of Praise.
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She did her undergrad work here
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and she was with
us for three years.
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And I was her interpreter
for church every Sabbath.
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I even turned down
speaking engagements
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because I had to make sure
I was there at church for her.
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Then I trained other
members of Hands of Praise,
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not just to do songs,
but to do sign language,
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American sign language.
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Now look how
the choir has grown.
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How it's ministered
in people? Definitely.
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I had a lady
call me the other day.
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Are you still providing
sign language interpreting,
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interpretation for
the church service?
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I said just tell
me what you need,
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because we have to
think outside the box,
00:25:50.15\00:25:53.31
we need to provide ministries.
00:25:53.35\00:25:56.18
Last week we had
officer appreciation,
00:25:56.22\00:25:59.62
prison ministry
thinking outside the box.
00:25:59.65\00:26:02.06
I even told Chaplain
Berry and he was a guest on
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Live To Be Well.
00:26:06.19\00:26:07.53
I say, okay prison ministry.
00:26:07.56\00:26:10.57
Sure, boring, okay.
00:26:10.60\00:26:13.50
When he started
naming those statistics,
00:26:13.54\00:26:15.84
I took my phone off
out and I was recording
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and I told him, I
apologize for just
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judging because it
wasn't my pastor up speaking.
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So we have a
tendency to leave church
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if it's not who
we want to speak.
00:26:28.18\00:26:30.15
Yes.
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And God has a word
for us, does He not?
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Yes, He does.
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And He can speak
through all of us.
00:26:34.32\00:26:36.02
We just need to open our
eyes, open our ears and listen.
00:26:36.06\00:26:39.39
And open our heart. Yes.
00:26:39.43\00:26:40.96
And that's what I'm doing
more. I'm opening my heart.
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Final words about anyone
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who's thinking
about becoming a nurse.
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What would you say?
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I would say, just
bring it, bring your passion,
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bring your love.
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Just bring it.
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Just know that
this is a commitment.
00:26:58.45\00:27:01.35
It's not glamorous
like you see on TV.
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This is a
commitment and it gets real
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and it gets real, real fast.
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So find yourself a program.
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Get into that program,
find yourself a hospital,
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come down to our hospital
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where we have an
excellent student nurse program
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and we mentor you through.
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So... That's beautiful.
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Well, I want to
thank you for so much
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for being on Live To Be Well.
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Thank you. May God
continue to bless you.
00:27:29.48\00:27:31.51
I just want to say
that in tender healing,
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it starts in our hearts
00:27:34.18\00:27:36.02
and with a
connection with Jesus Christ,
00:27:36.05\00:27:38.55
God will lead you
into your career path.
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Those who are
thinking about becoming a nurse
00:27:41.69\00:27:44.36
like Ms. Felicia, and also
let's not judge others until
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we know their story.
00:27:49.60\00:27:51.13
I am so happy that
I've learned so much about
00:27:51.17\00:27:53.44
Ms. Felicia today
that I never knew.
00:27:53.47\00:27:56.20
This is why I love
the Dare to Dream Network.
00:27:56.24\00:27:59.21
I love the opportunity
to bring the stories to you.
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Remember, you're not living
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until you live to be
well in Jesus Christ.
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I'm Dr. Kim, God bless.
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