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Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin,
and welcome to Live To Be Well.
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What is live to be well?
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It's about mind, body and
soul, but a full commitment
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to our Lord and
Savior Jesus Christ.
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Commitment of motherhood.
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What is a true commitment?
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Well, we're committed to God.
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Of course, that is my desire,
commitment to our careers,
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commitment to
our health and diet.
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But what about parenting?
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What about being
committed as a mother?
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I want to welcome
our special guest today.
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Mrs. Ericka Taylor.
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God bless you.
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Welcome, sweetheart.
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Oh, thank you.
I'm happy to be here.
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Well, I'm happy to have you now.
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We're just Kim and Ericka,
'cause we grew up together
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at the Burns
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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with your
grandmother Sister Clady Harris.
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This one it was on
Burns, the old Burns Avenue.
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That's right.
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And then we moved over
to Cadillac, and Warren.
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But my mother's
sister Davemore and Luke,
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they were best friends.
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So who is Ericka Taylor?
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And the
commitment of motherhood?
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You have two children?
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Two children.
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An Amazing husband? Yes.
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And you all just
celebrated your anniversary.
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And so God is good.
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All the time. All the time.
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So let's talk about the
commitment of motherhood?
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What does that mean to you?
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Commitment means that
taking care of the gifts
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God has given me.
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My children are gifts from God.
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And He entrusted me
with these two souls.
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Yeah.
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And it is my
commitment to rear them,
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to guide them and
to show them Jesus.
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Yes. Let me ask you this.
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When you say commitment,
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when you talk
about the treasures,
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and you know,
being a good steward.
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It's our responsibility
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to be a good
steward of these children.
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Yes.
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Why is it that, you know,
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when we think about stewardship,
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we think about finances.
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But isn't that a
part of motherhood
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being a good steward?
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Yes.
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And we're going to have
to answer to God for that.
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Absolutely. All right.
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So what was it like
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when you gave birth to
your first child, Jaylen,
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what was it like?
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When I found out
I was pregnant with,
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I got on my knees,
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gave her back to the
Lord and ask the Lord to bless
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and anoint her life
and guide her steps.
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Where does Jordan
get this voice from?
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She has a beautiful voice.
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Do you sing?
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No.
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Probably her
grandparents and her dad?
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Yes, yes.
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Her Uncle Cory.
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Yes. That's right.
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He's talented. Very talented.
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Yes.
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Let's talk about
the character building.
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A lot of times parents
put emphasis on the outward
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more so the inward building.
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And I'm not saying
anything's wrong with
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having nice clothes and things.
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But sometimes it needs question,
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it needed the question.
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What are we building on?
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And we should be
building on the solid rock
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of Jesus Christ.
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So why was that so
important for you to build
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your children's
character in Christ Jesus?
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Well, because
that's who you are,
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your character.
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And that's what you'll
take with you, your character.
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And my commitment to my children
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was to be an
example of treating people
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the way you want to be treated.
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Do unto others as you
would have them do unto you.
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If you can help
someone, help them.
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I just believe that your
character is who you are.
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And it's important to me
that they are good people.
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Yes.
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Did you talk to
your children about,
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you know, fighting and bullying?
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And if someone approached
Jordan and touched her?
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Do you have those
serious conversations with them?
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Yes, I do.
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As far as bullying, we talk,
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we talk and that we communicate,
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and I always want to keep
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those lines of
communication open.
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Yes.
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As far as
bullying, I've told Jordan
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if someone has
an issue with you,
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where you know
something's not right.
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Don't be afraid to go
to that person and say,
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hey, have I done anything?
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You know, I need to talk to you.
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Yes.
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I just noticed this,
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you know, have I done
anything to offend you.
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Let's talk about it.
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And I said, that
takes courage to do that.
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Yes, it does.
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It doesn't mean you're
weak, it means you're strong.
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Did you teach
your children to pray?
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Oh, absolutely.
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I taught them to
pray to have devotion
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to start their day with
God to end their day with God,
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but prayer is essential.
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Remember, as mommies,
put your hands together,
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it's prayer time, close
your eyes, bow your head.
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And when I opened like,
okay, and then I remember,
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Erin was like,
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well, how do you
know my eyes are open
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if your eyes are closed, okay?
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Because I said,
I'm watching you.
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All right.
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And in that
commitment to Christ.
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Now, when Jordan
was learning her music,
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I mean, just
like any young person,
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there's different
types of style of music.
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But when you
first heard her sing,
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you know, what
did that do for you
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to hear her sing in church?
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It brought tears to my eyes.
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Did you cry?
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I did.
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I did, but she would
pray as a little girl.
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She would pray with this power.
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And she still
has that power today.
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And I'm
thinking, this little baby.
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Where is she getting this from?
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You know, because I'm quiet.
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You know, I'm little reserved.
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And I'm thinking, wow, Lord.
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Okay, so I just said,
"Have your Way, Lord."
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Yes.
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Have your way.
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It takes me back to Samuel,
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when his mother
talked to the Lord and said,
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you give me this child, I
will give him back to you.
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And Samuel was taken to Eli.
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And Eli, you know, raised him.
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But that night, we
heard the voice of God,
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Samuel, Samuel, he went to Eli.
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And Eli said, you
know, I didn't call you.
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He went a second
time, Eli, did you call me?
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No.
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He said, "You hear this a
third time, just say yes, Lord.
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And so we want to be obedient
as Samuels's mother was,
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and she made a promise.
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What are the
promises that you have made
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to your children
to be there for them?
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I promise my children
that I will be there for them,
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because God is there for me.
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And I say
whatever it is, I can do,
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you know, and my
sacrifice from work,
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running the business,
and being there for them.
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Nothing is more important.
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No one is more
important to me than them.
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And I just told them
that in the scripture
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that God has given me is,
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and all thy children
shall be taught of the Lord
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and great shall be the
peace of that children.
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And so, I don't want them
to be weary, to be worried.
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I want them to have peace.
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And it is my commitment that
they have a stable foundation,
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a solid foundation.
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A solid foundation where
someone cannot just come in
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and whisper in their ear,
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the enemy and get
them to go off the path.
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I know the other
day we were talking
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and you really ministered
to me about your son Jaylen.
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This past April, I was
visiting Oakwood University
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in Huntsville, Alabama.
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And I was looking for a hanger.
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And I couldn't
find a particular hanger
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I was looking for.
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So I said let me check
Erin's closet down there
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where we have a home there.
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And I couldn't open the door.
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I pushed, employees.
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And I called for
Micah, my oldest daughter.
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And as I pushed it open,
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and I said
writhing and I said, Erin.
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She was in there
crying having a meltdown
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with a blanket overhead.
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She was supposed to be
taking a fine with that moment.
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And she looked
at me and she said,
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I told you, I can't do this.
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She wouldn't right
from losing her father,
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a junior and boarding
school right into high school,
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12th grade at Oakwood Academy,
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right into Oakwood University.
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And my daughter said,
"Mommy give her a year off."
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But oh no, Dr. Kim, no
freshman year, sophomore year,
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junior year, senior
year or grad school.
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We're on track,
we're not coming off track.
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We are educated
people in our family.
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We don't stop going to school.
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That mentality that
and what would people say
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or think not you Dr. Kim,
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your daughter has
taken a year of school.
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You know, people can be cruel.
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And so Micah said,
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"Mommy, do you hear yourself?
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It's not about you,
Mommy, it's about Erin."
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And I said, Erin, I
got down on my knees.
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I said, "Erin, I'm here."
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And she said, "It's too late.
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You didn't listen to me.
You didn't listen to me."
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My daughter was
this close to suicide.
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Yes.
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Jesus.
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And so, I said,
"What do I need to do?"
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She says, "I want
to finish my exams."
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She went from a 4.0 to 2.5.
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She had two classes.
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And she had her grades
in and two incompletes.
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And I said, I talked
with the teachers who said,
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don't worry about it,
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and come to find out
the classes won't transfer
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to our new school next year.
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Okay.
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And I said, you know,
I hear you, forgive me.
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And we shouldn't be ashamed
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to ask our
children to forgive us.
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And you mentioned to
me that Jaylen didn't go
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right into
college after high school.
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He and Erin graduated
from eighth grade together.
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You gave him a gap year.
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And you minister to
me, let's talk about that?
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Okay.
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Well, Jaylen and Jordan
are my son, my daughter,
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Jaylen's my son,
Jordan's my daughter.
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And they are two
different children.
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My grandmother used to
say, she had nine children.
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Each child's
needs are different.
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Yes.
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And that's
something that I remembered.
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Jordan, she will
breeze right through,
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you know, her schoolwork.
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She loves school, she
loves, she's outgoing.
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Yes.
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Jaylen, his character,
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he's more quiet.
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He likes to
have time to himself.
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He's an introvert.
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He's an introvert.
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So I had to look at
the two, my children
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and how their
needs are different.
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Yes.
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So Jaylen acts for a break.
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And I say, why not?
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If that's where
he needs, why not?
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That's powerful.
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And so that's what we did.
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We took a break.
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And now he's, this
is his, this semester,
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he entered college
for the first time.
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And he loves it.
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He loves it.
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He needed that time to regroup,
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you know, and to
get himself together.
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And I'm proud of him.
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I am.
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Jaylen, although he's quiet,
he is a leader in his own way.
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Yes, yes.
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I know, Jaylen, such a
sweet young man, very kind.
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And, you know, I get on my
knees after talking with you.
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And I said, I'm
so ashamed of myself,
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because I was more worried
about my image than Erin.
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And what people would say
and sure enough, people said,
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you know, Erin is not
going back to Oakwood.
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Erin is not
going back to school,
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and I let Erin speak.
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And Erin said, I'm
taking a gap year, you know.
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And now I'm at a point I
think gap years are good.
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And you're right.
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Some children
can go right through.
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I was able to go right through.
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My brother, Kurt, he
waited till after he get out
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of the military, because
he wasn't ready for that.
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You know, my sister
Renee, right through,
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you know, but looking
at the fact that I know
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what is healthy
for my children now.
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And you know what Micah said?
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Oh, Mom, yeah, one who
finished gotta be happy.
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All right.
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And then Erin said,
I'm going to finish,
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but I need a year off.
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So I think after
that, let's talk about
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how you balance your
commitment to motherhood,
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marriage, and
having your own business?
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All right, and what
type of business do you have?
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Okay, I am a
licensed cosmetologist.
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And I also have my
license to, to sisterlocks.
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Okay, now what is sisterlocks?
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Natural Hair,
its micro size locks.
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Are you to intricate?
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I use a tool. You use a tool.
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And there's a locking pattern.
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Oh, I see.
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So for different
textures of hair,
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there are
different locking patterns.
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You think I could do
that look good on me?
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Absolutely.
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Really? Yes.
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We should try that
one time, you know?
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Sure.
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I guess my program director
Jason Bradley for going ahead.
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All right.
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You know where to find it. Yes.
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So how did you get
involved with all of that?
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Well, I love
the beauty industry.
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I've always loved doing hair.
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And what happened was,
I was in beauty school.
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Okay.
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And I love to,
the relationships,
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you know, with women and men.
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Okay.
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But women will come in.
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And it was important to me
that they love feeling good,
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not only on the inside,
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and looking good on the outside,
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but I want them to
feel good on the inside.
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Yes.
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I remember a client, she
came in and she wore a wig.
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She took her wig off and she
has so much damage to her hair.
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And she says, "Oh, I
need I need a power relaxer."
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And I said,
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"Well, you know what?
Let's try something different."
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And she said, "Oh, no, no, no."
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And I said, "Well, the relaxer
will further damage your hair.
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Let's just try
something different."
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And she said,
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"Oh, no, I have
to have this perm.
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And so I went to my
instructor and I said,
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"I cannot put a
chemical on this lady's hair,"
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because it will
further damage her hair.
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Yeah.
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I was sent home for that.
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And I prayed and asked
God to show me something
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where women can
grow their natural hair
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and overcome the stigma
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of not being able
to have long hair.
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I said, if you show me
what a technique or skill
00:14:49.62\00:14:52.39
where I can do that.
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For women, I will do it
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and God showed me
that with sisterlocks.
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And how long have
you been doing this?
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Fifteen years.
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What Ericka?
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Fifteen years.
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What a blessing.
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Yes.
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I'm grateful.
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I know you are grateful.
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So looking at the
fact that you do this,
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you're able to balance,
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you know, because
picking the children up.
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Now, Jaylen, you
take him to school,
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you pick him up, he drives?
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All of that.
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All of it.
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Picking them up.
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Jaylen's
driving, Jordan's driving.
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My husband helps tremendously.
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Yes.
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I couldn't do it without him.
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Yes, yes.
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So we work together.
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Working together there.
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Who did the
children gravitate to
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as far as to both of
you when it comes to,
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you know, 'cause sometimes
children want to play odds
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against the parents, you know?
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Well, Dad, Mom said,
and Mom didn't say anything.
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Or, well, go ask your
mother and see what she says,
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you know, who tends to do that?
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I would have to say, Jordan.
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Jordan does that.
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She will definitely, you know.
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And that's for manipulation,
you know, but again,
00:16:03.29\00:16:07.06
we want our children
to be happy and blessed.
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How do you see God, you
know, just developing your life,
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you know, 'cause I know,
being a wife, being a mother,
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and I see the children with
you, the care of the children.
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What is the most
important thing for you
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to make sure
that they accomplish?
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The most important thing
to me is being there for them,
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listening to them,
because they do have a voice.
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They do have feelings.
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And it's just
important to me that,
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you know, we're
always giving instruction,
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but it's also important
to me and I pray for wisdom
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as a parent, you
know, to listen to them
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and not to provoke them.
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That's in the Bible.
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That's in the Bible, provoke
not, Ephesians Chapter 5,
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"Provoke your
children not to do wrong."
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Yes.
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"And children
provoke not to your parents."
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You know, I used to give
that to Erin every morning.
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Don't provoke me, child.
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So who did the
disciplining, you know?
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Did you believe in
spanking or more so,
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you know, just
the communication?
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Well, I believe in spankings.
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Yes. That is I do.
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Well, the Bible say, you spare
the rod, you spoil the child.
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So you know, we
spanked, I spanked,
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you know, I used to tap
those legs, get those hands.
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And when we were growing up,
00:17:32.65\00:17:33.98
remember that switch bush
right in front of the church.
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Parents were stopped
by and break off a switch
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before they
went into the church.
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Every parent had a switch.
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And we know, all I remember
is to do hold up that switch.
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And we didn't look.
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Oh, remember the look.
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That look, you didn't
have to even say anything.
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No.
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Get look, have
you lost your mind?
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You better sit back, you know,
and no chewing gum in church.
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No eating in church,
no talking in church.
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And you had your Bible.
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You better sing those hymns.
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All right?
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And you go to the
restroom before you leave home.
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Girl, listen, we, my
mother would say to us,
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you think you want
to use the restroom
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before you leave home?
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Now when you get to church.
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All right, go to Sabbath school.
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And then you
have a five minutes...
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A break. Right.
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Sabbath School
to 11 o'clock hour.
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But during church
service, you wouldn't even move.
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We couldn't.
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Couldn't, you and those ushers,
00:18:31.81\00:18:33.14
remember those
ushers at the door?
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Oh, yes. See
that was motherhood.
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Though and my
mother was a head usher.
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Yes, I remember.
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They have all that power.
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One seat, one seat, but you
know, leaving out this door.
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And we have gotten to the point
even I see young people walking
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during the benediction,
during the altar prayer.
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It all goes back
to home training.
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How important has home training
been with your children?
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Oh, very important.
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We have devotion.
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When they were younger, we
would, I will read them a song.
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Yes.
00:19:05.61\00:19:07.28
Bible, a story. Yes.
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It's just
important that you take time
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with your children
teaching them God's principles,
00:19:12.45\00:19:16.12
His statutes or His
laws, because it's guidance.
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It's a guide on how to live.
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And the principles of that we,
00:19:22.96\00:19:25.53
you know, I believe in the
eight principles of health,
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and I understand that we
need rest, we need sunshine.
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We need to have a good diet.
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We need exercise.
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We need to
study the Word of God.
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We need to be in His presence.
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You know, have you ever
gone into your children's room
00:19:39.67\00:19:44.81
3 o'clock in the
morning and just pray?
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I do it now.
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You still do it?
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I still do it.
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I open their door. Yes.
00:19:51.82\00:19:53.15
And I just stand
over them and I pray.
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Yes, yes.
00:19:55.46\00:19:56.79
I did it all with Micah.
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Arthur used to say,
"What are you doing?"
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I said, "You need to get up."
00:20:01.16\00:20:02.76
And he said, I think he said,
"The mother needs to do that."
00:20:02.80\00:20:05.97
And he would do with me a
few times out of the month.
00:20:06.00\00:20:09.97
He said, "It was just
the most beautiful thing
00:20:10.01\00:20:12.07
to pray by the bedside of your
children, and the covering."
00:20:12.11\00:20:16.41
And I used to take my
anointing or the anointing,
00:20:16.44\00:20:19.58
the Bible says, the
anointing breaks the yoke.
00:20:19.61\00:20:22.85
So I will take
my oil, we know it's
00:20:22.88\00:20:24.75
no power in the
oil, it's the faith.
00:20:24.79\00:20:26.99
And I anointed the
head posts all way around
00:20:27.02\00:20:30.29
my children's room then.
00:20:30.33\00:20:32.49
And Lord, I
sprinkle on their gym shoes.
00:20:32.53\00:20:35.00
Yes, I did.
00:20:35.03\00:20:36.36
And the oil when we, we
anoint, we anointed them,
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and we bless them, and we
gave them back to the Lord.
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You know, do you
remember your baby blessing?
00:20:43.97\00:20:45.67
I do. You do?
00:20:45.71\00:20:47.04
I do too. I do.
00:20:47.08\00:20:48.41
It was so special.
00:20:48.44\00:20:49.78
It was very
precious to lift the babies
00:20:49.81\00:20:51.88
and give them to the Lord.
00:20:51.91\00:20:53.31
This is something we do
00:20:53.35\00:20:55.05
in the
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
00:20:55.08\00:20:56.89
and about five months,
for about four months into,
00:20:56.92\00:21:01.22
we give them back to the
Lord with a beautiful service,
00:21:01.26\00:21:05.09
where the pastor
prays over the child.
00:21:05.13\00:21:07.86
And the pastor lifts the child.
00:21:07.90\00:21:09.73
Now remember
roots, the movie roots.
00:21:09.76\00:21:11.77
And lift that child over
the pastor takes the child
00:21:11.80\00:21:15.57
because that child
does not belong to us.
00:21:15.60\00:21:17.91
That child is given back to
the Lord in service for God.
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Amen.
00:21:21.88\00:21:23.21
What do you think are
some of the challenges
00:21:23.24\00:21:24.75
we face today as mothers?
00:21:24.78\00:21:27.65
Just being too busy.
00:21:27.68\00:21:29.65
Working.
00:21:29.68\00:21:31.02
Busy?
00:21:31.05\00:21:32.39
Yes, working,
technology, the phones...
00:21:32.42\00:21:37.93
A cell phone.
00:21:37.96\00:21:39.29
Cell phone,
00:21:39.33\00:21:40.83
I try to monitor and
it's just so much going on.
00:21:40.86\00:21:45.37
That's a challenge for me.
00:21:45.40\00:21:47.07
And most of my friends, parents,
00:21:47.10\00:21:50.37
that's the one
thing we have in common
00:21:50.41\00:21:53.14
with as a challenge for
our children is the phone.
00:21:53.17\00:21:56.81
Yeah.
00:21:56.85\00:21:58.18
And that's a real challenge.
00:21:58.21\00:21:59.55
Because they spend a
lot of time on their phones.
00:21:59.58\00:22:01.78
And they're not
always doing their homework?
00:22:01.82\00:22:03.25
And you don't know
what they're doing, right?
00:22:03.28\00:22:04.62
Absolutely.
00:22:04.65\00:22:05.99
I remember, Erin knocked me
off on one of the social medias.
00:22:06.02\00:22:09.56
She said, "Mommy, your
energy is just not good."
00:22:09.59\00:22:12.69
And I said if I
can't be on your,
00:22:12.73\00:22:14.93
following you, you can't be on.
00:22:14.96\00:22:17.70
And I follow Micah on
all her social medias.
00:22:17.73\00:22:21.50
I follow Jordan,
Jordan follows me.
00:22:21.54\00:22:24.84
I was just looking
at some of the pictures
00:22:24.87\00:22:28.74
we took yesterday
with your daughter.
00:22:28.78\00:22:30.68
And I was like so blessed.
00:22:30.71\00:22:33.28
Jordan said to
me just yesterday,
00:22:33.31\00:22:36.12
you know, I want to join
your sign language choir.
00:22:36.15\00:22:39.55
Now she's in school.
00:22:39.59\00:22:41.32
She's very busy.
00:22:41.36\00:22:42.72
How do you say to your child?
00:22:42.76\00:22:45.06
All right, you
have this on your plate,
00:22:45.09\00:22:46.73
you got this on your plate?
00:22:46.76\00:22:48.10
This?
00:22:48.13\00:22:49.46
Do you ever say
no, you can't do that
00:22:49.50\00:22:51.53
because you're
doing too much right now?
00:22:51.57\00:22:54.74
No, we'll find a way.
00:22:54.77\00:22:57.51
Yes. We'll find a way.
00:22:57.54\00:22:59.07
School, his or her
academia it's very important.
00:22:59.11\00:23:01.74
Yes.
00:23:01.78\00:23:03.11
But her spiritual walk
is important to me too.
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So we just have to find balance.
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And it takes a village.
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It takes a village.
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You know, I'm not
doing every everything.
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You know, I have
helped you, have...
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Yes.
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Definitely so
season to my child's life.
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I support her and our family.
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There's so many.
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So no, I don't tell her now.
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All right. I
can appreciate that.
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I remember that when
you first came to church.
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Tell us how you became
a Seventh-day Adventist?
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My grandmother
Sister Clady Harris.
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And actually it
was my Uncle Jerome.
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He was taking Bible
studies with a friend.
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And my grandmother.
He was just different.
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And he was coming home and
he was talking about Jesus.
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And she says, well,
you know, I want to go,
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I want to know what's going
on because he was so excited.
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She was actually
attended a Baptist Church.
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Yes.
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And the pastor
spoke about the Sabbath.
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And it was the first day church.
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And so she says,
Well, it looks like to me
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the Sabbath is on a Saturday,
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and it's the
seventh day of the week.
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So she went and looked
at the calendar on the wall.
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She says, okay,
and so she asked God
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if He would show her a church
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where they worship
on Sabbath, she will go.
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She just want to know the truth.
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She want to know the truth.
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And what happened was when
as my uncle was taking Bible
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studies, the Bible
workers were Adventists,
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but they never said anything.
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They never said anything.
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So when my grandmother
went and started having a study,
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she asked them, you
know, just after probably
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two or three studies, "Well,
what church do you belong to?"
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And they said, "Burns
Seventh-day Adventist Church."
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That was the center
church, I think at the time.
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Yes, the center church.
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And the movie it was.
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Yeah, old one, Grass It Out.
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Yeah, on Grass it.
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And so that's how and we
switched from Baptist Church,
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I might have been four.
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Four years old, and you
became a Seventh-day Adventist.
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Any regrets?
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None. None.
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You believe that the
Seventh-day Adventist
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message is the remnant message.
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Yes.
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And you believe that
Saturday is a Sabbath Day.
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You know, when we repeat,
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remember the
Sabbath day to keep it holy,
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six days shall thy
labor and do all thy work.
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But the seventh day is
the Sabbath of the Lord
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thy God, in it thou
shall not do any work,
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you know, and I
used to get articles.
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He's like to polish
his shoes on the Sabbath.
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He said, this is not work.
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This is to do
good on the Sabbath,
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my shoe need to shine.
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And I said, you can shine your
shoes on Wednesday, all right,
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so being a witness, and I
think that's how my husband
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became a Seventh-day
Adventist, being a witness
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and you have
introduced your children.
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They were born and raised
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and they're being
raised in this message,
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my children and Arthur
accepting this message.
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And your grandmother
will not have an empty crown.
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Your star is on your
name, is on her crown.
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And Jordan and
Jaylen is on your crown.
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You know, and I thank God.
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We have about a
minute and a half to go.
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Okay.
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What words of wisdom can
you share with me as a mother
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because truly you
have poured into me,
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regarding Erin's gap year?
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Well, is to
listen to our children.
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I always ask God to let me
see my children as You see me.
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Yes.
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And as You see them, let
me look through Your eyes
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if I can, you know,
to hear their heart.
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And that's my greatest...
That's my conviction,
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because they are
souls, precious souls.
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And I want to do good.
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You know, God
trusted me with them.
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And I just want to be there.
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I tell them no matter
what, you can always come home.
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Come on now.
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You don't think anything
is too bad or you can't come?
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Come home. Come home.
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See and I think
that's so important.
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Ericka, I want to
thank you for being with us
00:26:52.61\00:26:54.58
today on Live To Be Well.
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You were amazing.
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You look beautiful.
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Thank you.
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And I'm so happy that
you are my sister in Christ,
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that we have grown up together
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in the
Seventh-day Adventist message.
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And that I love you, you love me
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and we love each
other and our family.
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Oh, I love you, Kim.
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God bless you,
Ericka. Thank you.
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Let me say this to all
of us, including myself.
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It takes a
commitment to serving God.
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It takes a commitment to
share your gifts and talents
00:27:18.53\00:27:21.30
that God has given us,
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is a commitment
is a relationship.
00:27:23.34\00:27:26.01
It is an
opportunity for us to be
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a witness to everyone we meet.
00:27:29.18\00:27:31.28
I encourage you as
mothers, as fathers,
00:27:31.31\00:27:33.75
as parents, to
study the Word of God
00:27:33.78\00:27:36.42
to be able to
impact and empower you
00:27:36.45\00:27:39.15
and your children, your family.
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Pray for me, pray for
Ericka as we go forth.
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I'm Dr. Kim, live to be well.
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God bless.
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