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Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin,
and welcome to Live To Be Well.
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What is live to be well?
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Mind, body, and soul,
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but making sure
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that God is ahead
of all of our lives.
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Today, I want to
welcome Miss Malissa Martin.
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Welcome to Live To Be Well.
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Happy to be
here. Happy to be here.
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Thank you so much.
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We want to talk about today,
educated to educate others.
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Let's talk about what
you do for a profession?
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Currently I am
an English teacher.
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I teach 10th, 11th,
and 12th grade English
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at E-Core High School.
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And I also teach
public speaking and English
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at Wayne County
Community College.
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That's a full plate
for such a young woman.
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It is.
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Now, I've known you
since you were just one,
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that was 35 years ago.
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Thirty five years
ago. That's amazing.
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That makes me 40 then, right?
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Wait, now we got our mess.
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You gotta act pretty,
we gotta carry some ones.
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We're missing
it. We're missing it.
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Missing the
cupboard, I'm missing it.
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But I see you.
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I've seen you grow in the church
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being Seventh-day Adventist,
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your father, third generation.
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You are third
generation, your mother,
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you're two second generation.
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You attended
Peterson-Warren Academy,
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which is our
Seventh-day Adventist school
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in Inkster, Michigan.
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And where your mother
was the former principal.
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Yes, she was my teacher too.
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What was that like?
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You know what?
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It was, I liked it.
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I don't know if my
sister and my brother did.
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I enjoy my mom being there.
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My mom's it all
involved in English.
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Oh, yes, she is.
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So, for me having a
parent at the school,
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I liked it.
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My mom, your mom was there.
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Did you call her mom?
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Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
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There wasn't my mom at school.
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It was Miss Martin.
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Miss. Martin.
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And then the deal
my parents had was,
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our dad had to come to all
our parent-teacher conference,
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you know, even one time
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they had a
parent-teacher conference
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with the two of them,
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for her when she was
teaching my sixth grade.
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So she had to
talk to your father.
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They had a full
blown conversation
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about what if she
could just at home, you know?
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And I've been working with her.
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So that was,
that was a good deal.
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But I enjoyed
having my mom at school.
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That's a blessing. I enjoyed it.
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Do you feel that she
was very instrumental
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in guiding you to
become an English teacher?
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From the teacher aspect,
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all of my teachers did that.
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But at home it was different.
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I was always a
reader, so she fed my reading.
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So my mom would pop up
with, I got you three new books
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and I read in three new books
and I got you two new books.
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So she was more hands on at home
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Because she couldn't
single me out at school.
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But she was, she was
definitely helpful at school,
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but at home it was
more individualized.
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You have two siblings,
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an older sister
and a younger brother.
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You're the middle child.
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I'm the middle
child. I'm the middle child.
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The favorite. The favorite.
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So let's talk
about what's going on now
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in the school system
where you're teaching
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and how it has evolved
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from you being a
10th, 11th grader.
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Right.
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Can you give us
some type of comparison?
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What's now what you see now
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being on the other
side as the educator?
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Okay.
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Well I went to a private school
for Seventh-day Adventist.
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And I currently
teach at a public school.
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So I think first off
that's the biggest difference
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because in the
morning, growing up
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from elementary to high school,
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you know, it's,
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first we're going to
have prayer together.
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We might, the
teacher might have a lesson
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that she wants to
read from we to us.
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My school
doesn't start like that.
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I don't have
prayer with my students.
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I do pray over my classroom
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before the students come in,
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to make my room a safe haven.
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And then I pray for
the students as well.
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So I think that's
honestly the biggest difference.
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The second biggest difference
would have to be the world.
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I mean, kids have
their cell phones,
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24 hours a day.
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When I was a kid,
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we only had pagers by
the time I left high school.
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Cell phones are really just
now starting to become popular
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outside of work
or business people.
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Yes.
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So, that would be
the biggest thing,
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their cell phones.
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And then the third would be,
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if I had to list
the top three home life,
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because I like, I
still see my teachers.
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I still see my
5th grade teacher,
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my 8th grade
teacher, my 12th grade.
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I still see my teachers
weekly at church, you know?
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Some of these kids,
they don't some, not all,
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they don't have a
connection with their teachers.
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Some of them don't
know their parents.
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Some of them don't
live with their parents.
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Some of their
parents are incarcerated.
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They don't know each other.
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They didn't grow up together
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like my parents
grew up together,
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like I grow with my friends,
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my nephews grow up
with the friends I had,
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so they don't have that
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generational
expectation development.
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So, how do you
allow your spirituality
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from not being able
to pray in the classroom?
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You pray over them, you
pray over your classroom,
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but is there anything
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that you can
implement in the classroom
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as far as, the type
of papers they write?
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Can you take that
type of perspective
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or there's no spirituality,
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you can't cross that line?
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Well, there is a line.
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Yeah, So let's say
that there is a line,
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I can't walk in class and say,
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okay, everybody
put down your heads,
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we're going to
read a devotion today.
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I can't, I can't do that.
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But when the time does arise
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for me to speak about
my faith or their faith,
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or if they have questions,
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those are the times
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when I usually
kind of make a beeline
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to open up the conversation
so we can talk about it.
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So directly and indirectly.
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It's funny, you asked me that.
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So E-Core has tons of activities
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for the kids to do.
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They have a football team,
basketball team, track team.
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They even have a
football girls team
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called the Powerpuff girls.
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So, they have
activities through the week
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for kids to play in games
and other things like that.
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They asked or required
teachers to go to six events.
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So sometimes the kids will ask
me to come to one of the events
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and I usually try to
go throughout the week,
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because I can't go on
Friday and Saturday night.
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So the kids will
ask me to come to a game
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on Friday or a Saturday,
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and I have to tell them,
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you know, I can't come
to a game on Friday night.
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It's my Sabbath.
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Then I have to
explain what a Sabbath is.
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So that's another opportunity
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for me to share my
faith with the student.
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That's a blessing.
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Let's talk about
your faith in God?
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You know, why are you,
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you know, you're
our communication
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director of our church.
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And I have to say,
she's a phenomenal,
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we just had a lot of
different events at our church.
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And Malissa was
over all these events.
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It's a team, takes a team.
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It takes a team, you
know, am I on that team myself?
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You're on my
team. Oh, I'm already.
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I've been so busy
with Live To Be Well.
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I'm going to make a
meeting. That's okay.
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So where and why,
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why are you so still
involved in your church home?
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It is a personal decision.
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I have fully decided
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and made up in my mind
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that there are certain things
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that I need to
do to feed my faith.
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And if I don't do those things,
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I'll start
falling by the wayside.
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And honestly, at
the end of the day,
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Jesus is the only
thing, the only person
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that I can rely on completely
for everything at any time.
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And I don't want
to let go of that.
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I won't let go of that.
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So, you know, was
there ever a time growing up
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that you said to
yourself, you know,
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is this Jesus
or God really real?
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You know, did you
ever question that?
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No.
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I don't know why.
You never questioned.
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What about you as a
student at Oakwood University,
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you earned your undergrad degree
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at Oakwood.
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Everybody doing
their own thing, everybody.
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You know, what about
even an Oakwood School?
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Now at school
that's a whole different...
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Can we be transparent?
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We, a little bit. A little bit.
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A little bit.
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I think, well,
as a middle child.
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Right?
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So I have
someone in front of me,
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someone behind me.
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I didn't really have, I
was always Wanita's daughter,
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Camille sister, or Alex sister.
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I was never just Malissa.
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That's the reason
why I went to Oakwood
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to find out, to
just become Malissa
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and not have to rely on,
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you know, you know my
sister, you know my brother
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or I think, you know my mom
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stand on my own two feet,
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you know, for my own self.
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'Cause your
sister went to Andrews
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and your
brother went to Andrews.
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Because I went to Oakwood.
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Nobody wanted to go to the same,
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be at the same school
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when the other person was there,
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but everybody visited everyone.
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But Oakwood was a,
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honestly, when I first got
down there being transparent,
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I didn't go to church.
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You didn't go to
church? I did not go to church.
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I thought it was mandated.
You had to go to church.
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You had to go to
worship in the morning.
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When you lived on campus,
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there was a
certain amount of worships
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that you had to attend
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for the week to
get a weekend pass.
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But I didn't,
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I, they didn't
check you at church,
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but I didn't go to
church only because I mean,
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this is someone
who's been going to church
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18 years straight
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and not just church,
going up through the years,
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I was a hostess for
the welcome committee.
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I also sang in the church choir.
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I also was an
usher for a little bit.
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I dabbled in Pathfinders,
found out it wasn't for me,
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dabbled right back out.
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Come on now.
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I support the Pathfinders.
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You didn't get to
Oshkosh? No, I didn't make it.
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You didn't make
it? I didn't make.
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It's never too late though.
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It's too late. It's too late.
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I'll set my support,
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but I'm not a
Pathfinder, but I did.
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I stopped going to
church just because honestly,
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I didn't want to.
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Didn't want to go to
church? I didn't want to.
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And then I kinda,
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that's when I started
having a personal conversation
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about my faith with God,
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because then I asked myself
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because of course I
felt some kind of way.
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I'm used to going
to church every week.
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And once I didn't go,
once I didn't go, I said,
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you know, why
aren't we going to church?
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And then I asked myself,
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well, is the only place
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that I'm going to see
Jesus on Sabbath is at church
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or can I stay here and
rest and still engage with him
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and read my lesson
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or read a
chapter from the Bible.
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Can I still do that?
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So that was my first experience
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with just veering off a
little bit with spirituality,
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but also allowing
myself to be an adult
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and asking myself,
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where am I going with my faith?
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What does God mean to me?
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How do I embrace that?
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How do I do that
on a daily basis?
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When your parents asked
you where you going to church,
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what did you say?
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I go to worship to the...
the worship in the morning.
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During the
week? During the week.
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But that's almost
like bribing a student.
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If you go to worship
so many times a week,
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you get a weekend pass.
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It is bribing a student.
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You know, and if I
don't go to worship,
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I don't get a weekend pass.
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It is bribing a student.
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You know, or encouraging
a student to go to worship,
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to get the weekend pass,
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you know, it's
how you look at it.
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There are several
ways to you to look at it.
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I think one
growing up in my household,
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my dad had devotion
with us every morning.
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He left before us,
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but my dad would
wake everyone up.
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Everyone?
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You can stay in your pajamas
or whatever you want to do,
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but we're having
worship together as a family.
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So them having worship
wasn't a new thing for me.
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So it wasn't a big deal.
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But then some of my classmates,
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they didn't have
worship in the morning
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with their families.
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So waking up in the morning,
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having worship
was a new experience.
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And, of course,
it went both ways.
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Some enjoyed it
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and it became a
new thing for them.
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And they started having
worship on their own every day,
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rather they went to
the worship service or not.
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And then you have for
others, it was a turnoff.
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So I understand
the purpose of it.
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We do need to
worship because it's college,
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we can't start every class with,
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all right,
let's read a devotion.
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Let's hear someone's testimony.
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Let's get it.
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You can't do
that with every class,
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but we still have to get it.
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It is an Adventist School.
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Did you have a prayer
in every class at Oakwood?
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It started, do you remember
having prayer in the class?
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I don't remember
having prayer in every class,
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but I remember
having prayer in class.
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Yes, I do too.
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I remember having prayer.
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I don't remember
having prayer in every class,
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but I do remember having prayer
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and also, of course,
worshiping in the dorm.
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I was in Carter
hall. Right, me too.
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Yes, okay. And
Wayne came after me.
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So I'm dating myself, all right.
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Okay.
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But I have to
say... You still look good.
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Dating or not,
you still look good.
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I praise the Lord.
You still look good.
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I appreciate you.
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Your father is my
Sabbath school teacher.
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Yes.
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The best teacher ever,
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really gives me a
desire to study my lesson.
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I sit on the second row
where he teaches, you know,
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if I'm sitting back too far
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I'm gonna miss
something, all right.
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So I see that
product of education,
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the Christian walk,
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because your mother is busy
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and I'm Sabbath
school superintendent.
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I am one of the superintendent
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and I have never been
superintendent in my life
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and she called me and says,
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"Kim, I would like for you
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to be superintendent
the first Sabbath."
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I said, "Not for, not through,
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at the
beginning of every month."
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And then I asked her
the other day, Malissa.
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I said, "my term
is over in December."
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She said, "Oh no,
this is a two year term."
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She could get
people to do things.
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I'm telling you
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that would never do
anything in the church.
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She has an amazing ministry.
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So here is your mother
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is superintendent
of Sabbath, school.
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Father's my
Sabbath school teacher.
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Your mother's choir director.
00:14:02.67\00:14:04.61
Your father sings in the choir.
00:14:04.64\00:14:06.34
Your father used to be
the head deacon forever,
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forever and forever.
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Elder Dan. Elder Dan.
00:14:10.88\00:14:12.65
Oh, Dan Kendrick.
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So now the torch has been passed
00:14:14.35\00:14:16.45
on to us to carry on.
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And, but seeing
those skills in you
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and people were really excited
at the program that we gave
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and see so much energy in
you, excitement, laughter.
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People, is there
anything wrong with us
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having a good time in church?
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No, but I don't think people,
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people don't use the
words good time in church
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in the same sentence.
00:14:41.71\00:14:43.04
Like it's like,
it's inappropriate.
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We're supposed to
have a good time in church.
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Well, what is praise?
00:14:45.91\00:14:47.92
Praise?
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He said, praise Me, praise Him.
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He's worthy to be praised.
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You know, the blessings
go up, the praises go up,
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the blessings come down.
00:14:55.39\00:14:56.93
So I believe in
having a good time,
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I believe that you
should leave people
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feeling better than they came.
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Church is a
hospital for healing.
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All right.
00:15:06.00\00:15:07.34
So how do you find me time?
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What do you do? Do
you bowl, roller skate?
00:15:08.74\00:15:10.77
You know, do you snow ski?
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I don't do any of those things.
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Never been snow skiing, Malissa?
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No, never, I'm
afraid of heights.
00:15:17.35\00:15:18.68
So I'm not even
getting on your shoulders.
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I'm afraid of heights.
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Things I do enjoy doing.
00:15:23.69\00:15:25.02
So I do freelance writing.
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I actually do freelance writing
for the Lake Union, Herald
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and a couple of newspapers
and magazines here in Michigan.
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I also, my new favorite thing
is trying different recipes.
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You're cooking, Malissa?
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I know.
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So, explain for your viewers.
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I didn't have
to cook growing up.
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My mom cooked.
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She was, my mom did cook.
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My dad was a very good cook.
00:15:45.71\00:15:47.04
He would cook his
Caribbean food for us.
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And then my sister
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who's the second
Martha Steward used to cook.
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So growing up,
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I didn't really
have to learn to cook
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until I got to
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maybe my sophomore
year in high school,
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my sister had left.
00:16:00.42\00:16:02.06
So it was just my
brother and I at home.
00:16:02.09\00:16:03.73
And I'll never forget
this. He walked in my room.
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He said,
00:16:05.56\00:16:07.20
so what are you
cooking for dinner?
00:16:07.23\00:16:09.33
And it hit me like,
okay, everybody's gone.
00:16:09.36\00:16:12.83
Now the torch is on to me.
00:16:12.87\00:16:14.20
I still didn't learn there.
00:16:14.24\00:16:15.57
But now I'm trying to.
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He was serious. He
wasn't going to eat.
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He was serious.
00:16:18.34\00:16:19.67
And my cousin, Brian Stanford
actually lived in the basement.
00:16:19.71\00:16:21.88
So I later found out that
Brian sent Alex to pick on me,
00:16:21.91\00:16:27.02
they had to pick
who was going to ask me.
00:16:27.05\00:16:28.38
So after that I cooked a little,
00:16:28.42\00:16:29.75
but then I went to
college and you know.
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Yes 'cause Alex
was there by himself.
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By himself. All right.
00:16:33.72\00:16:35.19
So in that, you know,
did you learn how to cook?
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Learned how to cook. All right.
00:16:38.39\00:16:40.00
And let's talk about transition.
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Okay.
00:16:42.70\00:16:44.03
Coming back home
and from college,
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after being away for four years
00:16:46.87\00:16:48.20
and coming on for
the summer vacation.
00:16:48.24\00:16:49.57
Right.
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You know, was it difficult to,
00:16:50.97\00:16:52.31
you know, be back
at home with all this,
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I'm educated, I'm
ready to educate others,
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you know, was that a
difficult transition?
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Not from my point of view.
00:17:01.22\00:17:03.39
I think anytime students leave,
00:17:03.42\00:17:06.42
especially when you
go away from college.
00:17:06.45\00:17:07.86
I think it's a
little bit different
00:17:07.89\00:17:09.22
when you stay here
00:17:09.26\00:17:10.59
because you can see
00:17:10.63\00:17:11.96
your parents
more, your friends more,
00:17:11.99\00:17:13.33
you know, I went to Alabama,
00:17:13.36\00:17:14.70
so that's over 10 hours away.
00:17:14.73\00:17:16.70
You know, that's not,
00:17:16.73\00:17:18.07
I'm going to
come over after work.
00:17:18.10\00:17:20.30
So I think it was easier for me.
00:17:20.34\00:17:22.40
I think it was more
difficult for my parents
00:17:22.44\00:17:25.11
because I was
already living as an adult.
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Every day, you know,
I had my own routine.
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This is what I'm doing.
This is what I'm not doing.
00:17:29.21\00:17:31.68
And, you know, when I
left my parents' house,
00:17:31.71\00:17:33.45
it was okay, you're going to do,
00:17:33.48\00:17:35.78
and now I came back
is, no, I'm gonna do.
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So, I think it was for
them to kind of take a step back
00:17:40.26\00:17:45.29
and observe how
I have grown so far
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and recognize the ways
00:17:48.73\00:17:50.07
that I'm trying to grow
00:17:50.10\00:17:51.63
to counter help
me with that as well.
00:17:51.67\00:17:53.74
So I think that was the most,
the most difficult transition.
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You always enjoy
reading, studying,
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getting your work done.
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You know, college was
not difficult for you?
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No, it was good.
00:18:04.28\00:18:05.78
I like learning though.
00:18:05.81\00:18:07.15
Learning your masters.
00:18:07.18\00:18:09.42
And what is your master's in?
00:18:09.45\00:18:10.79
It's in journalism
from Wayne State University.
00:18:10.82\00:18:12.92
And now you just
received your certification.
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Yes, So I am in the process
of completing my certification
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at Schoolcraft
College, in Livonia.
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Yes. And that certification
will allow you to do what?
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Teach anywhere in Michigan.
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I'm a certified.
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K through 12?
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I'm secondary.
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So mine is 8th
through 12th grade.
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Secondary now is
considered an 8th grade?
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Eighth grade I know.
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Eighth is junior high. I know.
00:18:34.38\00:18:36.14
You know, it's
like, we look forward
00:18:36.18\00:18:37.98
to making that transition.
00:18:38.01\00:18:39.71
I'm in the ninth grade,
00:18:39.75\00:18:41.18
but now it's 8th through 12th?
00:18:41.22\00:18:42.85
Eighth through 12.
00:18:42.88\00:18:44.22
And you know, now
they're trying to make it
00:18:44.25\00:18:46.25
just a little bit of
a smoother transition
00:18:46.29\00:18:48.72
because you know, in 8th grade
00:18:48.76\00:18:50.13
you mean you have little
kids, little, little kids
00:18:50.16\00:18:52.19
to get K through 8th.
00:18:52.23\00:18:53.76
So they're trying
to now move some of,
00:18:53.80\00:18:56.20
not at my school,
but just in general,
00:18:56.23\00:18:58.30
I had the 8th graders
come to the high school
00:18:58.33\00:19:00.37
a little bit early.
00:19:00.40\00:19:01.77
So they would
still be in the building
00:19:01.80\00:19:03.57
maybe in a different wing
00:19:03.61\00:19:05.34
so that it's not so new to them
00:19:05.37\00:19:06.84
because that could be
completely overwhelming.
00:19:06.88\00:19:09.11
Yes, that's traumatizing.
00:19:09.14\00:19:10.75
Very traumatizing. It can be.
00:19:10.78\00:19:12.95
New teachers, new
schedule, new personality.
00:19:12.98\00:19:17.59
And then if you have to
be busting or transport,
00:19:17.62\00:19:20.36
because a lot of
schools have closed in Inkster,
00:19:20.39\00:19:24.29
and they may have to
come to the E-Core school.
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Your favorite Bible scripture?
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"For I know the
plans I have for you,
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saith the Lord."
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That's my, that's my go-to.
00:19:32.77\00:19:34.50
Jeremiah 29:11.
00:19:34.54\00:19:36.00
Every time, every time,
00:19:36.04\00:19:37.77
That's amazing,
00:19:37.81\00:19:39.14
that your end will
be of good and not evil.
00:19:39.17\00:19:42.68
He knows your plans.
00:19:42.71\00:19:44.85
He knows your plans.
00:19:44.88\00:19:46.48
I've been talking
about my scriptures
00:19:46.51\00:19:48.98
throughout my entire life
00:19:49.02\00:19:51.55
and everywhere I go.
00:19:51.59\00:19:53.15
And even in my
counseling practice,
00:19:53.19\00:19:56.09
that trusting God, having faith,
00:19:56.12\00:19:58.99
but verse 6 says,
00:19:59.03\00:20:00.76
"But without faith, it
is impossible to please Him.
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And he is a rewarder of
them that diligently seek Him."
00:20:04.60\00:20:07.10
Hebrew 11:6.
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How important is
your faith in your life?
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My faith is very important.
00:20:11.84\00:20:13.58
My faith is one of the things
00:20:13.61\00:20:15.28
I'm actually
working on right now
00:20:15.31\00:20:17.45
because I have faith,
00:20:17.48\00:20:19.81
but I don't let
that faith take place.
00:20:19.85\00:20:22.75
Like I say, okay, God,
I'll let you take care of it.
00:20:22.78\00:20:25.12
And then I'm moving on
to see how I can fix it.
00:20:25.15\00:20:27.26
If I said, I'm
going to have faith,
00:20:27.29\00:20:28.62
that means I'm not going to...
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Take your hands off of it.
I'm not going to try to fix it.
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I'm not even gonna think
about how trying to fix it.
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So that's, that's
the thing that I've been,
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I've been working
on to increase my faith
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because I do have faith,
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but I want my
faith to be stronger.
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I know people who have, I
mean, big, big time, faith.
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I want that. I want
that big time faith.
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You want to experience
that? But I'm not there yet.
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So I have to do my,
my crawling up there.
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Yes, take those
steps. Take those steps.
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Yeah. Definitely.
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It is important that
in today's society that
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we have peer pressure,
you still have peer pressure?
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Social media, the music,
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things trying,
the enemy is trying
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to pull us away from the church.
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And so I really applaud you
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for being our
communication director.
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I applaud you for
being a young woman of God,
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your relationship.
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You're just a six,
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you know, again no
one can get in that group.
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It's no. Nothing.
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No. Nothing can get in.
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Never.
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You know, I'm on a
prayer line every morning.
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And I got to come up with a name
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and you know, your
mother is on that prayer line.
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I know she's on
that prayer line.
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Yes.
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And we're up
every morning, 6:30 AM.
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That prayer line
is moving mountains.
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Did you guys know that? Oh yes.
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I know you passed. We
prayed so hard for you.
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I know you did.
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And you passed that
test. I passed that test.
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Seventy percent of the people
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that take that test
the first time, fail it.
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And you passed
it? And I passed it.
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Prayer changes things.
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And even when your
mom was gone to Oshkosh,
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she was on the line and
there were hour behind us.
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Oh, wow.
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And she says,
I'm here, I'm here.
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So what happened was
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when I, you know, went
through losing Uncle Arthur,
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I called them and asked them,
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you know, come
over and pray with me.
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And they did.
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Then when I got
the breast cancer,
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pastor Duncombe said,
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you need to get a
prayer group together.
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I said, I have a prayer group,
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but we're not active right now.
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'Cause you know, as
you go through things,
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you kinda, you know, it's done.
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I'm good now.
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But when I had
the breast cancer,
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I called your mother
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and four other women,
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you know, three
other women and myself
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and they said, yes, and
the best time was 6:30 AM.
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I said, was that PM or AM?
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AM.
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And we are faithfully.
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But even when this was
dealt with my breast cancer,
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we made a decision to
stay on the prayer line
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to keep praying for
you, Regina, Micah, Aaron,
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I cried so many
nights about Aaron
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and your mom would call
me, it's going to be all right.
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You know, or when your mom
was going through something,
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I would call, it's going
to be all right, you know?
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Your cousin, you just
lost a cousin in Canada,
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you know, how
old was your cousin?
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He, my uncle.
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Okay.
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My uncle, he is the
oldest so in his 70s.
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That's your mother,
that's your father's brother.
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My father's brother.
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But then you have a
cousin, a young lady in Canada
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that passed too?
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Yes, That was my cousin,
00:23:32.04\00:23:33.38
my father's other
brother, his daughter.
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His daughter.
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So you, and then
your aunt passed away.
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You had a lot of
death in your family,
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but God is still good.
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And He's still with you.
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I think about too,
that your laughter,
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your laughter
brings healing to the soul.
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We could be at the kitchen table
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and you just laugh,
00:23:55.06\00:23:56.70
you know, where do
you get that laugh from?
00:23:56.73\00:23:58.83
Who does it come from? Me.
00:23:58.87\00:24:00.94
That's your laughter.
00:24:00.97\00:24:02.30
I don't, I want to
wake up and have a good day.
00:24:02.34\00:24:05.04
And the only way
that I can ensure that is
00:24:05.07\00:24:08.34
making sure I do what
needs to be done for me
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to make sure that
I have a good day.
00:24:11.21\00:24:12.85
And that goes back to
the teaching aspect too,
00:24:12.88\00:24:15.52
in college or in high school,
your students feed off that.
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If I'm having a bad day,
00:24:19.15\00:24:20.59
whereas a class having a bad day
00:24:20.62\00:24:22.66
and nobody can learn
at what happened that day.
00:24:22.69\00:24:25.03
And also I learned to,
even if I'm not in a good mood
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and I laugh, it'll
put me in a good mood.
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And I'm always happier
00:24:30.93\00:24:33.00
when I'm in a good mood
00:24:33.03\00:24:34.37
and I can, and it brings me
joy to bring other people happy.
00:24:34.40\00:24:37.04
So if I can make you laugh.
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Now I'm really laughing.
00:24:38.44\00:24:39.77
Now we can laugh together?
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You do that, I'm telling
you, listen to me, viewers,
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there is no one
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who can make you just go
from a low area in your life
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to a high level.
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And when I was even
going through my own trauma
00:24:51.69\00:24:54.99
in my own life,
00:24:55.02\00:24:56.36
but if I saw Malissa,
00:24:56.39\00:24:58.19
I knew, and do you
know, this was my first time
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coming to your home
for one of the holidays.
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Right.
00:25:03.33\00:25:04.67
And I said, I'm
just going to stop by
00:25:04.70\00:25:06.33
and say thank
you for the invite.
00:25:06.37\00:25:08.50
I think I stayed three hours
and I sat right next to you.
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And we had a blast
00:25:12.34\00:25:14.31
and Micah said,
mommy, I'm so glad you went
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because I couldn't come before
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because it was too hard
00:25:18.55\00:25:20.02
too 'cause we will
always be there together.
00:25:20.05\00:25:22.15
And the memories,
00:25:22.18\00:25:23.52
and then
everybody is coupled off
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or everybody's family.
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I'm the only one here.
00:25:27.29\00:25:28.62
I have my cousin, Karen,
00:25:28.66\00:25:30.06
but I'm, I've gone from having
a huge family in the church,
00:25:30.09\00:25:35.36
you know, to just me now.
00:25:35.40\00:25:37.93
But my church
family is my family
00:25:37.97\00:25:40.90
and you know, and they
put their arms around me.
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So I praise God
for you, your family,
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who you are and where you are,
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you know, just a six,
you all pray together?
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Yes.
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Actually we pray
together, we fast together.
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When your daughter
Micah had breast cancer,
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we decided to
fast every Wednesday.
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I think that was a...
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I think that was
the day she had chemo
00:26:03.49\00:26:04.83
where she couldn't.
00:26:04.86\00:26:06.19
So we decided to fast with her,
every Wednesday we would fast.
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But we also,
00:26:10.23\00:26:11.70
well, Ashley would be our...
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She were to live there.
00:26:13.90\00:26:15.24
So everybody has names.
00:26:15.27\00:26:18.01
We're supposed to have names.
00:26:18.04\00:26:19.37
Or names of the Bible?
00:26:19.41\00:26:20.74
No, just names like
00:26:20.78\00:26:22.11
what your job is with the group.
00:26:22.14\00:26:23.48
So Ashley's like
our spiritual leader.
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Okay.
00:26:25.21\00:26:26.55
So she would be the one.
00:26:26.58\00:26:28.15
And I could say we
can't go to the others,
00:26:28.18\00:26:29.92
but you know, if I'm dealing
with something spiritually
00:26:29.95\00:26:32.55
or if I'm reading the
Sabbath school question
00:26:32.59\00:26:34.79
and I want to talk
about it with someone,
00:26:34.82\00:26:37.59
obviously besides my parents
in the Sabbath School class,
00:26:37.63\00:26:39.79
then I would talk to Ashley.
00:26:39.83\00:26:41.33
So we're very,
we're very connected
00:26:41.36\00:26:43.90
on every level.
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On every level
of the relationship.
00:26:46.97\00:26:49.37
I mean, even the bad parts,
00:26:49.40\00:26:51.24
the stuff you do, the
things you don't need,
00:26:51.27\00:26:52.94
you don't want to hear,
you're still going to hear it.
00:26:52.97\00:26:55.21
Now you may not hear it
from the other five of us,
00:26:55.24\00:26:57.55
but we all took a vote
00:26:57.58\00:26:58.91
that this is going
to be the one person
00:26:58.95\00:27:00.28
that's going to
tell you the things
00:27:00.32\00:27:01.65
that you need to hear.
00:27:01.68\00:27:03.02
I can really appreciate it
00:27:03.05\00:27:04.39
because friendship,
00:27:04.42\00:27:05.75
your friendship,
your relationship
00:27:05.79\00:27:07.92
is long lasting
00:27:07.96\00:27:09.29
in the
relationships that I have.
00:27:09.32\00:27:11.09
We have a minute
and four seconds.
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Give me some
words of encouragement
00:27:13.76\00:27:16.77
to say to families,
00:27:16.80\00:27:18.17
don't give up on your children?
00:27:18.20\00:27:20.67
Everybody has a journey.
00:27:20.70\00:27:22.30
Everybody has a journey.
00:27:22.34\00:27:23.67
Your journey may be
different from mine.
00:27:23.71\00:27:25.07
If we were mother and daughter,
00:27:25.11\00:27:26.44
I don't have to say
have the same journey
00:27:26.47\00:27:27.81
as you as you're my mother.
00:27:27.84\00:27:29.18
So respect
everybody's individual journey.
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I would be, that
would be the first thing.
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That would be the first thing.
00:27:32.38\00:27:33.72
Second thing I would
say, pray, always pray,
00:27:33.75\00:27:35.48
never stop praying.
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You never know
what signals people,
00:27:36.89\00:27:38.22
I mean that Jesus
is giving to people
00:27:38.25\00:27:40.86
and how they're interpreting
those things, those signals.
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And then the third
thing I would say is
00:27:43.66\00:27:45.86
you're still here
because Jesus wants you here.
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If He didn't want you here,
you will be six feet under.
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Yes. The end.
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The end. You're something else.
00:27:51.20\00:27:53.13
Well, I'm going to say, the end.
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I want to thank you,
Malissa, for coming today.
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Continue to
educate the uneducated
00:27:58.17\00:28:01.61
and making sure that
you continue to thrive
00:28:01.64\00:28:04.01
for greatness in your life.
00:28:04.05\00:28:05.61
I thank God for the
opportunity to be here.
00:28:05.65\00:28:07.78
Continue to live to be well.
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I'm Dr. Kim, God bless.
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