Hi, I'm Dr. Kim, and
welcome to Live to be Well.
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Have you ever said to
yourselves, "I have regrets.
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Why did my life take back turn?
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Why did I have
to go through that?
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Why? Why? Why?"
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Well, my special
guest today has no regrets.
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Welcome, Principal
Larry Key, how are you today?
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I'm doing fine, thank you.
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All right, I got to
get some out of the way
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before we go any
further, all right?
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All right.
Let's go back to 1975.
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Can we do that? Okay.
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All right, we're on our
way to Huntsville, Alabama,
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on the greyhound bus.
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Now we have a history.
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We were raised
in the same church.
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I was born and raised there.
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You came when you were 17? Yes.
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Around early...
yeah, later teens.
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Marshal T. Kelly was our pastor.
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Yes.
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And so here you come and
some of the other brethren
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and I am like,
"Okay, who is this?"
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You know, and
so, but we connected.
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I had afro. Yeah,
you had, woo, the afro.
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Michael Jackson big. Yes,
you did, you did, you did.
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The silvers. You did.
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You had all that. Yes you did.
You're good looking brother.
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Still, you know,
you got it, you got it.
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But we decided to go to Oakwood.
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Yes. You know,
no money but faith.
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You and I had all
the faith in the world.
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Oakwood
College. Oakwood College.
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That's only way I
know it, Oakwood college.
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So we're on the greyhound bus
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and we get to
Nashville, Tennessee.
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Oh my! Oh my!
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And so we get
there to change buses
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to the trail bus line, right?
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That's right. So...
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'cause greyhound
didn't go to Huntsville.
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It didn't go to Huntsville.
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So we had to, you
know, you know, go.
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All right, so
we're in the bus station
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and police officers...
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I'm going to tell
my version, all right?
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You can tell your version.
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And so the police
officer came over to me
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and he just
started bothering me.
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And I was like, "You don't know
who I am and where I'm from."
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You know, and but,
you then said, you know,
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"Please, my sister didn't
have her medication today."
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You told the police
officer that I'm mentally ill.
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That is correct.
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And that kept me
from going to jail.
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I was on a mission
to make it to Oakwood.
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And so you... By
any means necessary.
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But you know
what, you know what,
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I just don't understand
why you'd have to tell him
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I didn't have my
medication that day.
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Because if I didn't,
you would be in prison,
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maybe still, right now, today.
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Right, yeah.
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So the police let
me go and you said,
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"Kim, just be quiet.
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Don't say nothing
else. We're going to school."
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You know, so we got
there and I think you, kind of,
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you know, stopped
acquainting yourself
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with me after that, you know.
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So I've prayed the lord
that you kept me out of jail,
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you know, and my
life would've taken
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another turn, all right?
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All right.
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But I just want to
thank you for coming over.
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We've been friends a long time.
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And I've seen God do
miracles in your life.
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So let's talk about, you know,
us going to Oakwood, you know,
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let's start a humble
beginning Detroit, Michigan.
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All right?
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Well, actually we really started
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at Wayne County Community.
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That's where we
started. Mr. Boon.
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Mr. Boon's class.
The English teacher.
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Yes, oh, my goodness!
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Very difficult
teacher, but we made it through.
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Yes. We made it through.
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We had English
class together. Right.
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You are right, take me back.
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And then we transferred
those credits to Oakwood.
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To Oakwood. Yes we did.
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We went to Oakwood
as advanced freshman.
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Yes we did.
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You know, come
on, advanced freshman.
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That's right,
advanced. Yes we did.
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All right, so what,
tell us all about it, Larry.
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Well, you know, I come
from humble beginnings,
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God has blessed me
tremendously in my life.
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You know about my story.
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How I was adopted at
the age of two months old
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and brought into the Key family,
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and then later, I
was brought up a Baptist.
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And then I met this young lady
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and she was
Seventh-day Adventist.
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And as they say
the rest is history.
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I joined the
Seventh-day Adventist church
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and I'm so thankful I did.
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And God has tremendously
had his hand on me all my life.
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I just always remembered
my favorite scripture,
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"I can do all
things through Christ Jesus
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who strengthens me,"
even though I had counselors
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and even some
professors at Oakwood University
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that told me I
wasn't college material.
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They told you that?
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Yes, but I
pursued and I believed.
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And Pastor Kelly used
to tell me all the time,
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if I read my bible,
my grades would improve.
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And so I believed on
that and God blessed me.
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As I sit here
today, I have five degrees.
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Tell us what those Degrees are.
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I have a Socialist of
Science & Communications,
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Socialist of
Arts & Liberal Arts,
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Bachelor's in Communications
and Bachelor's in Religion
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and Master's of
Arts in Teaching.
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Amen.
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So God has truly blessed
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and I'm just so
thankful for that.
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Now you just recently celebrated
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your 25th wedding anniversary.
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Oh, yes. Went of Hawaii.
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Yes. You know, I can do that.
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Honolulu, Hawaii.
You see my sun tan I got?
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I see it, I see it, you know.
Yes, I got a chance to swim.
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Did you swim? In
the Pacific Ocean.
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I had swum in the Pacific Ocean
off the coast of California.
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Yeah.
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But this time,
Hawaii, Waikiki Beach.
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Yes, yes.
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And I swam in the Atlantic
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so my next on my
bucket list is the Gulf.
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I want to swim
in the Gulf. Really?
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I love swimming. I've
been swimming all my life.
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I'm a trained
water safety instructor.
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Yes.
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Life guards, I've
trained life guards.
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So that was wonderful.
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Pam, she, loved it. Yeah.
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We got a chance to go to the...
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The dole...
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Pineapple Dole Plantation.
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We saw some...
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We saw some of
the culture there.
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Yeah. That was wonderful.
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Japanese food. Yeah. Yeah.
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Delicious. Yeah.
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I mean, all kind of
vegetables. Beautiful flowers.
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All the flowers.
That was amazing.
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Oh. And the sunset. Oh, yeah.
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Was fantastic. Amazing.
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I'm so happy that
Arthur and the girls and I,
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we would go before he passed,
and that was one of our trips,
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you know, we were able to
do The Five Islands, you know.
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Let's talk about no regrets.
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You've no regrets becoming
a Seventh-day Adventist,
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no regrets
pursuing your education.
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And now, you know, you were
in teaching in public school.
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Yes.
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Tell us about that journey
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and how God led
you to another journey.
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Well, actually, I
started off my career
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in Adventist Christian education
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at Peterson-Warren Academy.
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And I've been an
educator now for 27 years.
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And I...
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Now what did you do
at Peters? I'm sorry.
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I was the Bible
teacher chaplain.
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Okay.
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And I taught
history as well. Okay.
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I taught there
for four years. Okay.
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And then I got a call
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to the Southwest Seventh-day
Adventist conference.
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And I was the
principal in a small school
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in Alexandra, Louisiana.
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I remember when you were there.
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And, matter of
fact, that's where
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my youngest child, Micah,
she was born in Louisiana.
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Okay.
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And then I left there
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and I went to
Nashville, Tennessee.
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I remember that.
Taught at F.H. Jenkins.
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The same school
that Mark Keble went to.
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Is that the same
school? In elementary.
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All right. I've taken sixth.
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And then there
was a special program.
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They were looking
for African-American man
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to go into elementary school
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in the public school
system in Nashville, Tennessee.
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And they were offering to pay
all of your tuition and books,
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just to become state
certified in elementary.
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So I took
advantage of that program.
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And from there
for the last 20 years,
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I taught in public school.
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And then... And then...
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And then now no regrets.
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No regrets. No regrets.
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I had a Jonah experience.
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Meaning...
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matter of fact,
it was your sister
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the superintendent of
Lake Region Conference.
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They caught me and
asked me if I was interested
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in being the principal
at Peterson-Warren Academy.
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And I turned the
personnel committee down twice.
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You turned them down
twice? Turned them down twice.
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And after the second
time, I turned them down.
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I had a Jonah experience.
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What I mean is for
three days and three nights,
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I could barely
eat or barely sleep.
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And I was tossing and turning.
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I said, "Lord, you
want me to do what?
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You want me to go to
Peterson-Warren Academy,
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you want me to come
out of public school,
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you want me to end
my retirement early,
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take an early
retirement and go and teach
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in Adventist Christian
school and make less money?"
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And I said, "Lord, you
really want me to do this?"
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And so from past
experiences in my life,
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I knew it was a
calling that God wanted me
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at Peterson-Warren
Academy for such a time as this.
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After the first
two times I turned down
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the personal committee,
then I began to get phone calls
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from friends of mine
from across the country,
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pastoral friends, individuals
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who've known me
for many, many years.
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And they began to pray
with me, counsel with me,
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give me advice, and then...
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So after that
in those three days
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of not being able to
sleep, getting some counsel,
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praying with individuals,
I went by the school.
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And I just happen
to be in the area.
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So I said let me
drive by the school.
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So I looked in the parking
lot and there were two cars.
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I didn't know who
the cars belonged to.
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And so I picked
up my mobile device
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and I called the
office, and I said...
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A friend of mine
answered the phone,
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Angeline Crawford, and I said,
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"Miss Crawford,
are they still looking
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for a principal at
Peterson-Warren Academy?"
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and she said with
the saddest voice,
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"Yes, Larry, we're still
praying for a principal."
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I said, "Okay, then,
well, I'll talk to you later."
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And there I hung up the phone.
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And right there
in the parking lot
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I heard the voice
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just as clear as I'm
speaking to you right now.
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"Now take the job."
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And I immediately
was at peace with myself
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and I knew that God wanted me
to go to Peterson at that time.
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And so I called
up the superintendent
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and called the president
and I told the president,
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Dr. Jones, of the
Lake Region Conference.
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I said, "If the
position is still available,
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I will take it
and I guarantee you,
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I will not turn it
down or back out again."
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And so they prayed about
in the personnel committee,
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they interviewed me,
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and they want to know
what change of mine...
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I said, "Well, I didn't want be
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the principal
of Peterson Academy
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because other
individuals wanted me to
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or because I wanted
to, I want to make sure
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that God wanted me
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to be the Principal of
Peterson-Warren Academy.
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So the money was not an issue.
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The leaving early retirement
with the State of Michigan
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was not an issue.
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I prayed and talked
with my family members,
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my wife, and after that,
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the conviction and
the voice, it was clear.
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And I have no regrets.
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I am so glad that
I left public school
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and came back to Christian
Seventh-day Adventist School,
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and I love it, I love it.
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My goodness. I'm
at peace with myself.
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I enjoy it.
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You know, knowing
you for so many...
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Since you were teenagers
and knowing your journey
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'cause some of our
journeys intertwined.
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So many times. I
have to hear this.
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So many times.
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And you came to
see Arthur in hospital.
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You're saying, "There
shall be peace in the valley."
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And he was so moved by it.
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And when you called to
see if you could come, I said,
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"Of course," 'cause he loved you
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and you loved him.
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And to hear this
story and not knowing
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what you went through
to accept the position,
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I'm just, you know,
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I don't get speechless too often
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but I'm really
touched because it's humbling.
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And...
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Of course, some of my
friends thought I was crazy...
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Of course, they will.
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To leave the money, to
leave the big job and pay.
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It's not all about
money all the time.
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It's about
serving the Lord. Exactly.
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And we're
living in the last days
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of earth's history.
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And we are.
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Let's talk about
the Revelation seminar.
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You gave...
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I'm going to back to Christian
'cause I'm going to ask
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what is the
difference between...
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Let's do that first,
the difference between
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Christian education
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and Seventh-day
Adventist education,
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what is the difference?
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It's a big difference.
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Number one, Seventh-day
Adventist Christian education
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has been around
for many, many years.
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God showed through
his prophet Ellen G White
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about Christian education.
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We are the largest
Protestant church school
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Christian education
system in the entire world.
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And we're not there
by chance. That's right.
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And we have schools,
colleges, universities
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all over the world.
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And the big difference
between public education...
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I've been in both arenas.
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The difference is,
number one, that God is there.
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That's right.
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The Holy Spirit,
angels, students able to pray.
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Pray in the classroom.
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Teachers are able to
pray and talk about God.
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Yeah.
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Now I tell you, even though
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I was just kind
of a secret agent
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in the public school system,
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I will plant my Bible on my desk
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and if students came to
me and start asking questions
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about God, then I could respond.
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Right 'cause you
couldn't initiate...
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But I couldn't volunteer...
I couldn't initiate it.
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But anyway, the big
difference is the Spirit of God.
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Yes, the Spirit of God.
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See if you think about it,
if all wisdom and knowledge
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comes from God, would you
want to be in the school system
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that promotes God where you have
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freedom to worship
God, to talk about God,
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to have prayer at the
beginning of every classroom
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and every
subject, science, math?
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It doesn't matter.
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And so that was a great draw
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and that's the
difference between public school
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and Christian
Seventh-day Adventist School.
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And it's a special blueprint.
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And by the way, a lot
of people don't understand
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but Seventh-day
Adventist Christian education,
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we have done
studies and we found out
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that our students do
better on the national exams.
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We score higher, we have
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a higher percentage of
students going into college
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and so successfully
graduating from college.
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And so the proof
is in the pudding
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that Seventh-day
Adventists schools are superior.
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Now I look at your children,
your son just graduated
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from Oakwood a
couple of years ago.
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Yes. And his
field of study is what?
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Business finance.
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And then you have a daughter
in her last year of Oakwood
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in bio, can really
go to medical school.
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Can really go to medical school.
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So again, Christian education,
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Seventh-day Adventist Christian,
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my daughter went all the way
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through Seventh-day
Adventist Christian education.
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Aaron, Seventh-day
Adventist Christian education.
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My mother made
the sacrifice of sin,
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that's the Davison Academy,
Delfin Academy, onto which...
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and I went to
Wayne County for a year
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but whatever I had to
do, you know, to raise money,
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I worked three jobs at
Oakwood to stay at Oakwood.
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And I remember, you know,
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one student said to
me, "Where you going?"
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I said, "I got to
go to my other job."
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You know, and I
had 12, 14 credits,
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sometimes 16 credits.
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And but I have to
pay for my tuition.
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Right.
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You know, but
I'm not going home,
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I want to stay at Oakwood.
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What was it about
Oakwood College University?
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What was it, you know?
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Is nothing like
the Oakwood experience.
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Nothing like it.
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You meet people
from all over the world,
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different cultures, from Africa,
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from all of the
beautiful islands
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in the Caribbean.
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People that the
teachers were dedicated,
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they were caring.
00:17:04.02\00:17:05.35
Matter of fact, I
had a teacher one time.
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She knew I
needed to pass Spanish
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in order to graduate.
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Okay.
00:17:11.86\00:17:13.19
And that teacher, I
overslept and I had an exam,
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a final exam and I overslept.
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She came to Atwood's
Hall. Did she page you?
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And paged me. No.
00:17:21.14\00:17:22.67
And said, "Mr. Key,
Senor Key, get up with that,
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out that bed now
and come on to class."
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Those were the kind
of teachers dedicated.
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You know, you don't
get that in a university
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where you're in a
classroom with 500 students.
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The teacher cared so much for me
00:17:35.88\00:17:38.09
that she came to
get me out of my bed.
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I remember... I'm sorry.
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When you say that Dr.
Sylvia Barnes, English.
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Oh. Oh, Sylvia
Barnes did not play.
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Cut those
adjectives, nouns, verbs.
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So I come to class,
the first week of class,
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I'm like, "Really?
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I can't really
understand you lady right."
00:17:54.67\00:17:56.84
And she says like,
"Where are you from?"
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I said, "Detroit."
And, "Where were you from?"
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And people were like,
00:18:01.38\00:18:02.71
"You don't know who
you are dealing with."
00:18:02.74\00:18:04.08
That's right.
00:18:04.11\00:18:05.45
And I'm like, "And
okay, 'cause we had Mr. Boons,
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I'm not scared
of anybody," right?
00:18:06.85\00:18:08.18
That's true.
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And, you know, and
she says, "Come here."
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She says, "What are
your plans for your future?"
00:18:11.89\00:18:14.86
and I say, "Can I just
get through the semester?"
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"We need to
think bigger. Bigger."
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And I'm like, "Well, can
we get to the next semester?"
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And they were challenging. Yes!
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The teachers were challenging.
00:18:23.03\00:18:24.37
And she was so
happy that I made it
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through the first
semester, second semester,
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and you know I
failed psychology?
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No, I didn't know
that. I failed, yes.
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But Dr. Keith Woods came
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and saw me sitting on the steps.
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What's the do...
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Peterson? Nope.
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Cunningham? Nope.
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What's a grey
building? Marian hall?
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Marian hall,
where we had psychology.
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And I was sitting there
crying and he walked up.
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I didn't know who he was.
He said, "What's the matter?"
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and I said, "I
failed in psychology
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and I want to be a psychologist,
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psychotherapist..."
00:18:54.70\00:18:56.03
But my teacher said
there's no hope for me.
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He says, "I'm a
new professor here.
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Take my class, take it
again." And I took his class.
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And I really
didn't have the money,
00:19:04.24\00:19:05.77
but what was I going to do.
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Do you know I got
an A out of his class?
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Praise God.
00:19:08.81\00:19:10.15
And he walked me
through, every time I see him,
00:19:10.18\00:19:12.28
he just smiles,
he laughs, he says,
00:19:12.31\00:19:14.65
"Don't let anyone tell
you what you can't become."
00:19:14.68\00:19:16.89
That's right.
00:19:16.92\00:19:18.25
Don't ever let anyone
discourage you, you know.
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And yes, we have
Andrews and they recently closed
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Atlantic Union College.
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Yes. They joined...
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And we still have
so many, Loma Linda
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and all these schools
that people not even aware
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of that they're under
the Seventh-day Adventist,
00:19:30.23\00:19:32.33
you know, denomination.
00:19:32.37\00:19:34.04
But I feel that
Oakwood provides...
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you can go
anywhere and get a meal.
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True.
00:19:40.08\00:19:41.41
You let somebody
know you're from Oakwood,
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I'm going to, I'm
coming to your house...
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Anywhere? Anywhere.
00:19:44.18\00:19:45.51
If you're visiting my
church... Let me tell you...
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We, my wife and I were
just in Hawaii last week,
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and I went to the
Hawaiian Central Church,
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Seventh-day Adventist church.
00:19:56.76\00:19:58.36
And I was
looking over to my right
00:19:58.39\00:20:00.33
and I saw this individual
say, "Oh, he looks familiar."
00:20:00.36\00:20:04.30
And then he was looking at me.
00:20:04.33\00:20:06.00
After church come to
find out he was an Oakwoodite.
00:20:06.03\00:20:09.10
Kelvin Preston, and he was in...
00:20:09.14\00:20:10.47
Yes. I travel 6,000 miles away.
00:20:10.51\00:20:13.58
Yeah, surprising.
00:20:13.61\00:20:14.94
Yes, and he was
just at City Temple.
00:20:14.98\00:20:16.44
Yes. And so we
greeted each other.
00:20:16.48\00:20:19.15
He was with his
wife, and they were
00:20:19.18\00:20:20.52
on the Seven
Island cruise in Hawaii.
00:20:20.55\00:20:22.15
Yeah.
00:20:22.18\00:20:23.52
But the bond of Oakwood...
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There it is.
00:20:25.99\00:20:27.32
You're no strangers no matter
where you go in the world.
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Let me ask you, "Do you
think that you are arrogant?"
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people tend to
say you are arrogant.
00:20:32.23\00:20:34.30
No, I'm not
arrogant, I am confident.
00:20:34.33\00:20:37.03
And my mother
taught me at a small age,
00:20:37.07\00:20:40.14
a young age to
always look them in the eye,
00:20:40.17\00:20:43.10
think well of yourself
00:20:43.14\00:20:44.47
or no one else
will think well of you.
00:20:44.51\00:20:46.17
So sometimes people mistake
my confidence for arrogance
00:20:46.21\00:20:51.01
but it's not that I'm arrogant,
it's just I'm confident.
00:20:51.05\00:20:53.52
I believe that I can do
anything through Christ.
00:20:53.55\00:20:57.32
My God will supply all my needs.
00:20:57.35\00:20:59.55
So it's confidence
that God was about...
00:20:59.59\00:21:02.19
Even when there is no evidence.
00:21:02.22\00:21:03.83
No evidence? No evidence.
00:21:03.86\00:21:05.23
Your Jonah experience?
That's right, that's right.
00:21:05.26\00:21:07.63
God is good. Yeah.
00:21:07.66\00:21:09.00
And I think you...
00:21:09.03\00:21:10.37
and I understand
and I think this is why
00:21:10.40\00:21:11.83
people misunderstand us,
you know, and strong people
00:21:11.87\00:21:16.20
but Dr Lewis was telling me
something yesterday or today
00:21:16.24\00:21:20.24
'cause we had Aaron on
a program when Dr. Louis
00:21:20.28\00:21:23.81
was interviewing
us on Urban Report.
00:21:23.85\00:21:25.88
And she was saying
to Aaron that anyone
00:21:25.91\00:21:28.62
that worked diligently
in their home doing chores,
00:21:28.65\00:21:31.89
or got jobs and
really stayed focused
00:21:31.92\00:21:35.22
became successful.
00:21:35.26\00:21:36.79
And we had to do
chores, right? Oh, yeah.
00:21:36.83\00:21:39.26
We did it all. Mom didn't play.
00:21:39.29\00:21:40.90
Mom did not play, old school,
you know, give you that look.
00:21:40.93\00:21:43.77
Oh, yeah. You know.
00:21:43.80\00:21:45.13
And I want you to
know that my father died
00:21:45.17\00:21:47.54
when I was 13 and my
mother had three boys.
00:21:47.57\00:21:52.31
This is your
biological or your adopted mom?
00:21:52.34\00:21:53.74
This is my adopted
mom, which is my mom.
00:21:53.78\00:21:55.71
Yes, that's true.
00:21:55.74\00:21:57.08
But we had to do work and
chores and let me tell you,
00:21:57.11\00:22:01.95
I can so...
00:22:01.98\00:22:03.32
Okay, you put a button?
My mother was a seamstress.
00:22:03.35\00:22:06.96
I could sew, I can hem
pants, I can sew on button,
00:22:06.99\00:22:11.03
I can iron, I can
cook, I can do everything.
00:22:11.06\00:22:15.16
I know you can 'cause
I've been to your home.
00:22:15.20\00:22:16.70
My mother raised
us to be independent.
00:22:16.73\00:22:19.13
Yes. And that's a good thing.
00:22:19.17\00:22:21.04
How come we don't
have a homemade class?
00:22:21.07\00:22:23.04
You know, shall we
bring homemade back for boys?
00:22:23.07\00:22:24.91
We need to bring that back.
00:22:24.94\00:22:26.27
We do, remember we had...
00:22:26.31\00:22:27.64
We even had that
in public school.
00:22:27.68\00:22:29.01
Yes. I had it in the school.
00:22:29.04\00:22:30.38
You know, we need
to bring that back.
00:22:30.41\00:22:31.75
You know, we learnt cooking.
00:22:31.78\00:22:33.11
Manhattan, the boys
had to take cooking class.
00:22:33.15\00:22:34.48
And I took
workshop on auto mechanics.
00:22:34.52\00:22:35.85
All right, okay. Yes.
00:22:35.88\00:22:37.22
I know how to change a tire
00:22:37.25\00:22:38.59
or change a
spark plug, a ride...
00:22:38.62\00:22:39.99
You need to train your daughter.
00:22:40.02\00:22:42.79
Yes, she's going to
change some tires too
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because if you...
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Micah too. Yeah, Micah does.
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Micah change...
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Well, you know,
your Micah and my Micah.
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Yeah 'cause, you
know, when I had my Micah,
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you checked...
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When I heard
your daughter's name,
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I was like, "If I
ever have a daughter,
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I'm going to name her Micah."
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And you did. I love that name.
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I know. It means
like Yahweh, my God.
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Yes it does.
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I said, "Go on, you
can borrow the name."
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Yeah. And Micah is beautiful.
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Let's talk about, you know,
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where we get
almost four minutes left.
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Your journey with
the Lord and you sing
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and you have a beautiful voice.
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And God has
given you this voice.
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And every time I hear it,
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it just takes me
to another place.
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How and why did you
give your talent to the Lord?
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Well, because God
has done so much for me.
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He's been with me all my
life since the day I was born.
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He's always had his hand on me.
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He's always led
me and helped me.
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I've never, never
had want for anything
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because God has
always supplied all my needs.
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So I can't help but
to give back to God.
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And I tell you, this is what
I want to say to individuals
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who doubt God.
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Never, never
doubt his love. Never.
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Never, never know
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Oh never
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Doubt his love
00:24:10.18\00:24:11.98
Never doubt God's love for you
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When burdens press
all about your soul
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And the ways of
trouble seem to roar
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Just never, never
doubt his love for you.
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Never doubt God's Love.
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You can do anything
at any time with God,
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and God has shown me in my life.
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What he can do.
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And I love him so much for
and so it's easy to serve Him
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and to do His will.
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I'm so glad that
you remained my friend
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after all these years.
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You know, and we even
live in the same community.
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Same zip code. Same zip code.
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So we go to the same pole.
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Remember when we were
there when President Obama
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became president, we
were in line together.
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Singing We Shall Overcome.
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You just kept singing
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and I was leading
the whole thing...
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And we didn't care
what people thought.
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We did not.
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Then everybody
joined in with us.
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And I mean that
line wrapped around
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two or three times.
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Yes. That was so amazing.
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And I still
supported you for council.
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Yes, you did.
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You wanted to be
on the city council.
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But God knew. God knew.
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God knew, you know.
Never doubt his love.
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Never doubt his love. I
know it was maybe a setback.
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"Oh, I didn't become the
council in Detroit City,"
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but God had
greater things for you.
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But know why I did not win
because they told me Dr. Logan
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did not attend the
meetings on Saturday.
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And I told them, "I would
not, could not, and will not."
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And they had the
Democratic meetings
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on Saturday.
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And so they put it
in the Detroit news.
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She was the only one
with Ph D, Business owner.
00:25:49.88\00:25:53.72
She wasn't looking for a job
00:25:53.75\00:25:55.75
but because she
did not networked
00:25:55.78\00:25:58.49
within the party on
Saturday, and her statement was,
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"I am a Seventh-day Adventist."
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Praise God, you
are witness for God.
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Yes, and everyone knew
no matter what the cause,
00:26:06.29\00:26:09.00
the price, I went, you know,
00:26:09.03\00:26:10.57
the race is not given
to the swift or the strong
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but to those who
endure to the end
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but I was not
going to compromise.
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No regrets. No regrets.
00:26:17.01\00:26:18.47
I have no regrets.
00:26:18.51\00:26:19.91
And then we had a
fire on Grand River,
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God moved us here
and even with, you know,
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going through what I've
gone through with Arthur,
00:26:25.31\00:26:27.58
and I have no
regrets because you know why?
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Jesus is coming again.
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Soon and very soon
and he will not tarry.
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He will not
tarry. I'm just excited.
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Closing remarks,
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Christian
Seventh-day Adventist education,
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why do we need
to put our children
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in Christian
Seventh-day Adventist education?
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Several reasons.
00:26:45.73\00:26:47.07
Number one,
Christ is soon to come.
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All the children
should be taught of the Lord
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and God wants our children
to be taught of the Lord.
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Yes. That's the
number one reason.
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The number one reason.
00:26:56.21\00:26:58.11
And so therefore
everything that we're doing,
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empowering our
children, and we need to have
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our pastors behind our schools.
00:27:03.39\00:27:05.45
We need to get our
pastors all on board.
00:27:05.49\00:27:07.86
And we need to, you know,
00:27:07.89\00:27:09.22
make sure that
even their children
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are in Christian
Seventh-day Adventist education.
00:27:11.79\00:27:13.33
And we have some good
pastors there are supporting.
00:27:13.36\00:27:15.43
Oh, yes, we do.
But we need more.
00:27:15.46\00:27:16.80
We need more, we do
need more, and I support.
00:27:16.83\00:27:20.00
You know, one of
the things, you know,
00:27:20.04\00:27:21.50
I had Brandon Den on, senior,
and he told Arthur and I,
00:27:21.54\00:27:25.17
"If you want to
see your finances grow,
00:27:25.21\00:27:28.28
support Christian Seventh-day
Adventist education."
00:27:28.31\00:27:30.25
It's a blessing.
00:27:30.28\00:27:31.71
Some people say that
Christian education costs
00:27:31.75\00:27:34.85
but I tell them
the benefits pays
00:27:34.88\00:27:37.35
and it's out of this world.
00:27:37.39\00:27:38.72
It's out of this world
'cause when you can really
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make that withdrawal.
00:27:40.12\00:27:41.46
Oh, yeah. Oh, God is good.
00:27:41.49\00:27:42.82
Come on, Esai, you
know. Esai Detroit.
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I think we can
understand that thing, you know.
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That's right.
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Well, we just
want to say thank you
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to Principal Larry keys,
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how God has
brought you, my brother.
00:27:51.90\00:27:54.00
And I want to thank
you for understanding
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the importance of
having no regrets.
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We love you.
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Continue to Live to
be Well, I'm Dr Kim.
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God bless.
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