Hi, I'm Dr. Kim and welcome to Live To Be Well. 00:00:35.96\00:00:39.30 I am just over-joyed to have a wonderful wonderful guest 00:00:39.33\00:00:44.24 and not only is she my boss okay, on Dare To Dream, 00:00:44.27\00:00:47.91 she is the General Manager of Dare To Dream, 00:00:47.94\00:00:49.84 the host of Urban Report, our very own Dr. Yvonne Lewis. 00:00:49.88\00:00:55.82 Welcome darling. Thank you my dear. 00:00:55.85\00:00:58.22 it's such a great honor to be here with you. 00:00:58.25\00:01:00.36 Welcome to Detroit. 00:01:00.39\00:01:01.72 I know, I know, my mom was born in Detroit 00:01:01.76\00:01:05.29 and she was from Detroit. Oh, I can't believe that. 00:01:05.33\00:01:06.80 Really. I have some family here and so it's good to be here. 00:01:06.83\00:01:10.60 You know Detroit is on the rise again. It is! 00:01:10.63\00:01:13.27 And a lot of new things are happening. You can see it. 00:01:13.30\00:01:15.37 Businesses, you know, we are right here in the middle 00:01:15.40\00:01:17.47 of the new center area. Yeah. And so we are excited about 00:01:17.51\00:01:20.98 that. But let's talk about just how good God is. Oh yes. 00:01:21.01\00:01:26.88 Let's look at God. Look at God. 00:01:26.92\00:01:28.88 So let's talk about your journey. Um hum. 00:01:28.92\00:01:30.39 We are going to start at 2009 and how God has led you 00:01:30.42\00:01:34.52 all the way to 2017. Yes He has. Alright. Yes, yes. 00:01:34.56\00:01:38.53 Two thousand and nine was a pivotal year for me. 00:01:38.56\00:01:42.86 Prior to that, I was practicing traditional Chinese Medicine, 00:01:42.90\00:01:50.57 I had been practicing that for five years, board certified in 00:01:50.61\00:01:55.74 Traditional Chinese Medicine and the herbs and my sister 00:01:57.45\00:02:02.72 also had come to Dallas to live...I was practicing in 00:02:02.75\00:02:05.95 Dallas and my sister had come to Dallas to live because 00:02:05.99\00:02:09.92 she was ill and she wanted me to help her and so as a 00:02:09.96\00:02:13.86 naturopath and as a practitioner of T.C. M., 00:02:13.90\00:02:18.10 Traditional Chinese Medicine, I was going to do what I could 00:02:18.13\00:02:22.37 to help her because she had some lifestyle habits that 00:02:22.40\00:02:25.31 she needed to change and all that. 00:02:25.34\00:02:27.38 And so she came there already with a diagnosis 00:02:27.41\00:02:34.72 cirrhosis...Ohh. and she had only been given about six months 00:02:34.75\00:02:39.15 to live. And she came there in 2007, or 2006, 2007 something 00:02:39.19\00:02:46.56 like that. She was there for maybe three years so maybe 00:02:46.59\00:02:48.36 2005 or 2006 she came to Dallas to live. 00:02:48.40\00:02:52.47 And the Lord did extend her life and she did give her heart 00:02:52.50\00:02:56.24 to the Lord. Praise the Lord! Oh, praise God. 00:02:56.27\00:02:59.64 But she got ill and she was getting sicker, and she was due 00:02:59.67\00:03:05.61 to have a liver transplant and on March 23rd of 2009 00:03:05.65\00:03:11.42 she had the liver transplant. Okay. 00:03:11.45\00:03:13.59 And the surgery was successful even though the surgeon 00:03:13.62\00:03:18.86 just looked a little shaky to me. 00:03:18.89\00:03:21.80 You know, I knew there was something else because he 00:03:21.83\00:03:25.23 didn't look pleased with the way that the surgery went. 00:03:25.27\00:03:28.90 Well...but he said that there had been some issues 00:03:28.94\00:03:33.54 that she had that were really serious, so even though the 00:03:33.58\00:03:37.71 liver transplant was successful, you know, we still had 00:03:37.75\00:03:40.58 to kind of see how things would go. 00:03:40.62\00:03:42.55 So that was March 23rd that she had the surgery 00:03:42.58\00:03:47.66 and I would go every day and be with her and she had been on 00:03:47.69\00:03:52.76 Methodone. Hmm. And so they did not want to not give her 00:03:52.79\00:03:58.53 anything because then she could go into withdrawal 00:03:58.57\00:04:02.07 while she was recuperating, which would have been 00:04:02.10\00:04:04.17 a really terrible thing. So they gave her fentanyl 00:04:04.21\00:04:07.18 and um, I forget the other one. 00:04:07.21\00:04:11.35 Now how old was she? 00:04:11.38\00:04:12.88 My sister was 50 years old. Oh. 00:04:12.91\00:04:14.98 She was 50 years old, and we were very different. 00:04:15.02\00:04:18.15 My sister was very street wise, you know, our mother died 00:04:18.19\00:04:22.72 when I was 19 and my sister was 9 and so she went one way 00:04:22.76\00:04:31.27 and I went another. I went the academic route, 00:04:31.30\00:04:33.47 my sister went the street route and she learned about the 00:04:33.50\00:04:37.84 streets and so we kind of went like this. 00:04:37.87\00:04:41.98 But after she got older, we came back together and she 00:04:42.01\00:04:46.38 taught me some life lessons that were just amazing. 00:04:46.41\00:04:49.32 Her...she had a heart for people...Yes. 00:04:49.35\00:04:52.42 You know, people looked at me and thought that this is the 00:04:52.45\00:04:56.16 "goodie two shoes" one and this is...But my sister's heart.. 00:04:56.19\00:05:00.96 Example of how she was... There was a woman at church 00:05:01.00\00:05:04.63 and she was crying in the bathroom and Binky, 00:05:04.67\00:05:07.97 that's my sister's nickname, she walked into the bathroom 00:05:08.00\00:05:12.24 at church and the lady was crying and she said 00:05:12.27\00:05:15.28 what's wrong, and she was a young girl, she had gotten 00:05:15.31\00:05:19.61 evicted from her place, had nowhere to go. 00:05:19.65\00:05:21.42 My sister brought her into her home, gave her her room 00:05:21.45\00:05:25.75 and my sister slept on the couch. 00:05:25.79\00:05:28.32 What? That's the kind of person...see 00:05:28.36\00:05:30.23 now I think I am a nice person, but I am sorry Lord help me, 00:05:30.26\00:05:34.66 I'm just not that...give up my own room. 00:05:34.70\00:05:38.43 This was a stranger? A stranger. 00:05:38.47\00:05:40.24 Wow. She didn't even know... she just met her at church. 00:05:40.27\00:05:43.54 Wow. That day. So that's the kind of heart she had. 00:05:43.57\00:05:48.24 Pure. Pure, giving, just, she would do anything for you. 00:05:48.28\00:05:52.58 So March 23rd she had the surgery and they were 00:05:52.61\00:05:57.62 giving her medication to keep her from going into withdrawal, 00:05:57.65\00:06:01.89 unfortunately, I believe they over medicated her 00:06:01.92\00:06:06.76 because she never really came out from under the anesthesia, 00:06:06.80\00:06:10.77 she never really came back. Really! 00:06:10.80\00:06:13.03 And as a result of that, on May 9th, she passed away. 00:06:13.07\00:06:19.04 I am so sorry. And I was devastated because she was like 00:06:19.07\00:06:26.05 my child, there were so many years difference 00:06:26.08\00:06:28.42 and she always looked up to me as her big sister and all. 00:06:28.45\00:06:33.72 It was just the two of you? Um hum. 00:06:33.76\00:06:35.19 Ohh. So, even thinking about it now...its been all these years, 00:06:35.22\00:06:40.90 I miss my sister. I know. There is something so special 00:06:40.93\00:06:45.53 about sisters, you know, you have the same parents and 00:06:45.57\00:06:49.20 history you know. Yes, yes yes. 00:06:49.24\00:06:51.57 So, long story short, that was just devastating to me 00:06:51.61\00:06:57.81 and I tried to deal with her loss and in the mean time 00:06:57.85\00:07:03.49 I was dealing with some career issues as well because 00:07:03.52\00:07:08.02 I had heard one of my friends had told me that acupuncture 00:07:08.06\00:07:12.36 was of the devil. 00:07:12.39\00:07:14.13 And I said, no it's not. And I mean my flesh rose up, 00:07:14.16\00:07:17.80 I was just, I just got so angry because I was trained in that, 00:07:17.83\00:07:21.94 board certified in it, so I knew what I was doing, 00:07:21.97\00:07:24.47 "Praise the Lord" and I am like you Dr. Kim 00:07:24.51\00:07:28.78 you are a perfectionist, you want it done just a certain way. 00:07:28.81\00:07:32.55 Whatever you do...Yes. Yes. You do that all to the 00:07:32.58\00:07:36.65 Glory of God and you do it with a standard of excellence... 00:07:36.69\00:07:39.45 Yes...And that is my goal too, to do what I do 00:07:39.49\00:07:44.29 with a high standard, and so in school, 00:07:44.33\00:07:47.60 I was like on it in school... Praise the Lord... 00:07:47.63\00:07:50.57 I mean, I just learned that discipline, but what I 00:07:50.60\00:07:55.07 didn't learn were the spiritualistic underpinnings... 00:07:55.10\00:08:01.18 Umm...Of acupuncture. I never really knew that. 00:08:01.21\00:08:04.51 So when my friend came at me with that, my friend Yolanda 00:08:04.55\00:08:07.48 whom I love dearly. Ok. 00:08:07.52\00:08:08.85 We are back together, we had a little split for minute... OK. 00:08:08.88\00:08:11.75 But we are back together. 00:08:11.79\00:08:13.12 When she came at me with that, I was like no, I know this stuff, 00:08:13.15\00:08:17.99 I was trained in this and I know what I am doing 00:08:18.03\00:08:21.66 and it is not from the devil. And I prayed over my patients 00:08:21.70\00:08:24.77 first, I guess the Lord was like this poor child. Yes, yes. 00:08:24.80\00:08:27.80 I prayed over my patients and I would just go and do it 00:08:27.84\00:08:32.37 and that would be it. 00:08:32.41\00:08:34.54 I would see things that were so strange on my table... 00:08:34.58\00:08:39.81 Like sometimes when I did there was a certain protocol 00:08:39.85\00:08:42.48 that I did to relax my patients. Yes. And I would put a needle in 00:08:42.52\00:08:46.45 part 7, which is this place here...this point here, 00:08:46.49\00:08:51.23 and it was just a protocol around the body. 00:08:51.26\00:08:53.56 And they would tell me later that they saw colors 00:08:53.60\00:08:59.33 or they felt energy moving. And I would think well 00:08:59.37\00:09:05.61 that's kind of strange but you know, maybe it's just 00:09:05.64\00:09:08.54 relaxing them and all that like what was I thinking. Wow. 00:09:08.58\00:09:12.21 So anyway, I found out through various means, 00:09:12.25\00:09:18.69 the Lord sent me information about it and I had to make a 00:09:18.72\00:09:24.73 decision. Ninety five percent of my income came from 00:09:24.76\00:09:29.33 acupuncture even though I am a naturopathic doctor as well, 00:09:29.36\00:09:32.60 the bulk of my income was from acupuncture and when the Lord 00:09:32.63\00:09:38.74 let me know that it was spirit- ualism based on astrology... 00:09:38.77\00:09:44.21 Acupuncture is based on astrology. Hmm. 00:09:44.25\00:09:48.28 And that's what I didn't learn is school, because had they 00:09:48.32\00:09:51.42 told me that, I would have been out of there. 00:09:51.45\00:09:52.79 You would have been gone. Because we're forbidden to 00:09:52.82\00:09:54.82 deal with astrology. That's right. 00:09:54.86\00:09:56.19 And you are probably going to get some letters and calls 00:09:56.22\00:09:59.06 about this from people who are going to acupuncturist who are 00:09:59.09\00:10:02.20 saying, well it works it helps me. Yes it works, 00:10:02.23\00:10:06.10 but as my friend's husband Dr. Schubert Palmer... 00:10:06.13\00:10:09.97 my friend is Yolanda Palmer too, 00:10:10.01\00:10:12.34 and she said...I had a talk with her husband one day 00:10:12.37\00:10:16.75 and he said, I'm sure it does work, but what's the 00:10:16.78\00:10:20.52 power behind it? Come on. Ohh. 00:10:20.55\00:10:23.18 And that stuck with me and I thought, you know what, 00:10:23.22\00:10:26.96 I need to look into this and I did and I found out 00:10:26.99\00:10:29.49 and that was it. As soon as I knew the real source 00:10:29.52\00:10:35.50 of this discipline, the Lord laid it on my heart, 00:10:35.53\00:10:40.54 walk away from it, touch not, come out of her my people 00:10:40.57\00:10:45.07 and touch not the unclean thing. 00:10:45.11\00:10:46.84 Can a corrupt tree yield good fruit? Um mum. 00:10:46.88\00:10:50.81 The Bible says, can a corrupt tree yield good fruit? No, no. 00:10:50.85\00:10:54.35 No, so I had to walk away from it. Now what year was this? 00:10:54.38\00:11:00.19 Two thousand nine...all this was 2009... All this was 2009. 00:11:00.22\00:11:03.26 My goodness. When the bottom just dropped out from under me. 00:11:03.29\00:11:07.00 Well, but not really. Ok. Because as I contin... 00:11:07.03\00:11:14.70 right after I decided to walk away, I knew that God was 00:11:14.74\00:11:19.41 telling me to leave it and there were people who were telling 00:11:19.44\00:11:22.68 me, why are you doing that? Why are you leaving this? 00:11:22.71\00:11:27.32 What are you going to do and all of that? 00:11:27.35\00:11:29.12 I knew that if God was telling me to leave it, 00:11:29.15\00:11:31.12 He was going to take care of me. Take care of you all the way. 00:11:31.15\00:11:33.42 Dr. Kim. Yes. I was in an expensive apartment building 00:11:33.46\00:11:38.53 in Dallas...Yes. Every month my rent was taken care of, 00:11:38.56\00:11:43.47 Every month. Whether it was through...One month, 00:11:43.50\00:11:47.97 the first month after I left acupuncture, I had not resigned 00:11:48.00\00:11:52.97 my lease and there was an incentive for re-signing 00:11:53.01\00:11:56.98 that you got a free month. What. So I got a free month 00:11:57.01\00:12:01.28 and the rent there was like expensive, it was one of those 00:12:01.32\00:12:04.45 luxury type apartments so it wasn't cheap. Yes, yes. 00:12:04.49\00:12:08.12 But every month God took care of me. Look at God! 00:12:08.16\00:12:13.03 Look at how if He tells you to do something, 00:12:13.06\00:12:16.03 and you do it, He's not going to say, ok, you are on you own. 00:12:16.06\00:12:20.77 No, or leave you there. No, no, He took care of me 00:12:20.80\00:12:25.27 and Dr. Sussel Bailey... I had written a book called 00:12:25.31\00:12:31.18 Great Days Nine Principles To Revolutionize Your Life. 00:12:31.21\00:12:34.02 And Dr. Sussel Bailey in the Dallas area had me come... 00:12:34.05\00:12:39.32 I developed a lifestyle program and he had me come to his office 00:12:39.35\00:12:42.92 and teach some of his patients these principles. Yes. 00:12:42.96\00:12:47.43 So I got to work that way, and so then that same book... 00:12:47.46\00:12:52.33 Cause I hurried up and finished that book when I walked away 00:12:52.37\00:12:54.60 from Acupuncture, I was like Lord I have to... 00:12:54.64\00:12:56.67 What am I going to do and He just showed me finish the book, 00:12:56.71\00:12:59.34 finish the book. I finished that book, 00:12:59.37\00:13:01.08 C.A. Murray from 3ABN, I talked to him and he said come on out 00:13:01.11\00:13:07.05 and I'm going to interview you about your book. 00:13:07.08\00:13:09.75 And I said Praise God, because then I could talk to more people 00:13:09.78\00:13:14.12 about the book. Yes, that's true, definitely. And get 00:13:14.16\00:13:15.86 some invitations to come to some different churches and 00:13:15.89\00:13:20.10 all that stuff. So I was like ok, this is great, 00:13:20.13\00:13:23.00 thank you Lord, thank you. 00:13:23.03\00:13:24.37 So I went out to 3ABN and Pr. Murray had to go out of town 00:13:24.40\00:13:30.01 so he asked Danny Shelton to interview me. Oh... 00:13:30.04\00:13:34.28 So Danny interviewed me, and this was in 2010, 00:13:34.31\00:13:39.45 this was in 2010, he interviewed me 00:13:39.48\00:13:43.85 and we began to talk and he had co-founded an urban network 00:13:43.89\00:13:51.26 called World of Praise with Pr. Whintley Phipps. 00:13:51.29\00:13:53.96 Ok. And Pr. Whintley Phipps was heading it, but 00:13:54.00\00:13:56.87 he's very busy, his schedule didn't allow him to 00:13:56.90\00:13:59.23 really do it, so it just kind of laid dormant. 00:13:59.27\00:14:02.20 Umm. So Danny said to me one day, I feel impressed that you 00:14:02.24\00:14:08.61 should head the Urban Network for 3ABN. 00:14:08.64\00:14:12.55 And I was like, it had never crossed my mind to do 00:14:12.58\00:14:18.65 something like that on that kind of a scale... 00:14:18.69\00:14:21.16 Now I've been on television before...Sure. 00:14:21.19\00:14:23.22 And I've had a singing career and all that and so I was 00:14:23.26\00:14:26.80 no stranger to television per-se but not to administering 00:14:26.83\00:14:33.74 a network and starting from scratch because that's where 00:14:33.77\00:14:37.37 it started from basic...we didn't do any of the 00:14:37.41\00:14:40.41 Word of Praise programming, we just started from scratch. 00:14:40.44\00:14:44.05 God gave me the concepts for programs, the titles for 00:14:44.08\00:14:48.18 programs, introduced me to you and Arthur. Yes. 00:14:48.22\00:14:51.95 And you guys did Making it Work... I, you know... 00:14:51.99\00:14:56.26 You are not supposed to have favorites but you know, 00:14:56.29\00:14:59.13 you are one of my favorites. I appreciate that. 00:14:59.16\00:15:00.63 You know that Dr. Kim, you know I love you. 00:15:00.66\00:15:02.76 Wasn't Making it Work one of the first ones. 00:15:02.80\00:15:04.13 It was one of the first ones. Ray Young produced it 00:15:04.17\00:15:07.77 out of the Michigan area. Yes, yes. 00:15:07.80\00:15:09.94 And he had told me about you guys. Yes. 00:15:09.97\00:15:12.34 And I said, well I have to meet them because I had to needed 00:15:12.37\00:15:14.84 to see for myself. I loved the way you and Arthur bantered, 00:15:14.88\00:15:20.18 I loved the content. You just did an outstanding job... 00:15:20.22\00:15:24.02 We appreciate you. So I publicly thank you for all the you did. 00:15:24.05\00:15:27.59 You know how much Arthur loved you. I love you too. Oh, I am. 00:15:27.62\00:15:30.36 We loved Arthur too. 00:15:30.39\00:15:32.99 And so I just...I can't get over how God is so merciful 00:15:33.03\00:15:41.37 and how when we do just what He says to do... 00:15:41.40\00:15:45.71 There's that reward that we don't see it. That's right. 00:15:45.74\00:15:48.74 We don't have to see it, we know that we have a faithful God 00:15:48.78\00:15:52.41 who's never let us down. I am one of those old sayings now... 00:15:52.45\00:15:55.28 Come on you know I'm going to 00:15:55.32\00:15:57.52 We know that He will not let us down if we just do what He says 00:15:57.55\00:16:03.16 to do. Yes, He will orchestrate everything. Everything. 00:16:03.19\00:16:06.83 I remember when you came to Lake Region Camp Meeting 00:16:06.86\00:16:09.23 and you got up to speak and you were talking about 00:16:09.26\00:16:11.97 Dare to Dream. And when you came down, a lot of people were 00:16:12.00\00:16:14.47 coming at you and I got up to meet you 00:16:14.50\00:16:16.97 and the Lord said sit down because I am going to 00:16:17.01\00:16:20.14 bring her to you. Just like that. Wow! 00:16:20.18\00:16:22.94 Arthur looked at me, he says I thought you were going to go 00:16:22.98\00:16:24.81 meet her. And I said Arthur, no the Lord said in time, 00:16:24.85\00:16:28.98 these were His words "I will bring her to you." 00:16:29.02\00:16:31.79 Wow. So I never saw you on the grounds anymore that 00:16:31.82\00:16:35.72 afternoon... Never. Never was introduced to you and God 00:16:35.76\00:16:39.86 orchestrated the entire...He will do it. He will. 00:16:39.89\00:16:42.50 In His time and in His way. He did. He did. 00:16:42.53\00:16:45.67 He did, He brought you and Arthur...you guys from the 00:16:45.70\00:16:49.00 outset, we just loved what you did. 00:16:49.04\00:16:51.61 I never expected that phone called like what... 00:16:51.64\00:16:53.78 and I prayed to the Lord to do...because I wanted to 00:16:53.81\00:16:57.05 use our gifts and talents for the Lord. 00:16:57.08\00:16:59.71 Um hum. I didn't want to do secular television 00:16:59.75\00:17:01.78 and I said Lord, please use our talents for you. 00:17:01.82\00:17:05.35 So we just was feeling... when we saw you there 00:17:05.39\00:17:08.62 and you were on fire and excited and I was like, 00:17:08.66\00:17:11.26 who is this person? because I didn't know who you were 00:17:11.29\00:17:13.96 and I said God, some day we will meet. 00:17:14.00\00:17:18.70 He sure did it, and you are one of the first programs 00:17:18.73\00:17:22.07 on Dare to Dream. Isn't it amazing. 00:17:22.10\00:17:24.57 And when we started, you started. 00:17:24.61\00:17:26.34 Isn't that amazing? Just about. Um hum. 00:17:26.37\00:17:28.04 Only God. And we've been going since 00:17:28.08\00:17:30.21 two thousand ten, we launched in 2011 and we've just been 00:17:30.25\00:17:35.72 going strong by the grace of God. 00:17:35.75\00:17:37.99 And the programming, I am so thankful that even though 00:17:38.02\00:17:42.06 brother Arthur is not here, you're continuing with 00:17:42.09\00:17:45.43 Live to be Well. Which this program is just wonderful 00:17:45.46\00:17:48.96 and I know the viewers are going to be blessed by the 00:17:49.00\00:17:51.20 different guests that you have.. I'm excited for you. 00:17:51.23\00:17:54.24 I am just thankful that you are open, 00:17:54.27\00:17:56.00 you are such a visionary. 00:17:56.04\00:17:57.61 How does that pour into your sons? because you are like me 00:17:57.64\00:18:03.51 you're just going, going, going, the energizer bunny rabbit. 00:18:03.55\00:18:07.12 Yeah. How old is...I know Jason. Yes. 00:18:07.15\00:18:10.39 And he has this ministry, and what God has done. 00:18:10.42\00:18:13.82 Look at God and Jason's... Look at God. Look at God. 00:18:13.86\00:18:17.19 Oh my goodness. Look at God. 00:18:17.23\00:18:18.79 I know tears have just come to your eyes to see him work 00:18:18.83\00:18:22.16 with you. What is like to have him work side by side with you? 00:18:22.20\00:18:25.73 You know Dr. Kim, he is so easy... 00:18:25.77\00:18:29.17 we share a little bitty office, we're together all day 00:18:29.20\00:18:33.68 and we get along so great. He is the nicest person 00:18:33.71\00:18:39.01 I don't know anybody who doesn't like Jason. Wow. 00:18:39.05\00:18:42.75 He's the nicest guy and he is serious about the Lord 00:18:42.78\00:18:46.22 and to see where he came from... Because he was out of the church 00:18:46.25\00:18:51.09 and he's given...shared his testimony with you... Oh yes. 00:18:51.13\00:18:54.06 He was out of the church, away from the Lord 00:18:54.10\00:18:56.73 and to see how God has brought him to Himself. 00:18:56.77\00:19:00.44 I am just like, thank you Lord. Look at God. 00:19:00.47\00:19:03.71 I know, look at God, that's all that you can say is look at God. 00:19:03.74\00:19:05.57 And then I have an older son. Now what's his name? Mark. 00:19:05.61\00:19:08.34 Mark. Mark for years I have been praying for Mark, 00:19:08.38\00:19:16.38 praying for him because his life has taken some interesting 00:19:16.42\00:19:20.26 turns and he just for awhile he wasn't interested 00:19:20.29\00:19:25.69 in spiritual conversation. He just wasn't interested in it 00:19:25.73\00:19:29.40 and I would keep praying for him every day at noon. 00:19:29.43\00:19:32.63 My clock is set to pray for certain people and Mark 00:19:32.67\00:19:37.91 was one of them. 00:19:37.94\00:19:39.47 Is he in Dallas area still? Well let me tell you. 00:19:39.51\00:19:42.94 Alright. When I moved. I moved recently from Marion to 00:19:42.98\00:19:47.58 West Frankfort and my son Mark came to pack me up. 00:19:47.62\00:19:52.42 And he said mom, I'm just tired of the life that I've been 00:19:52.45\00:19:58.46 living. What? Girl, I'm getting ready to get emotional. 00:19:58.49\00:20:02.46 Oh my goodness. And so he has stayed at 3ABN, 00:20:02.50\00:20:07.24 he's studying for baptism. 00:20:07.27\00:20:11.27 He's studying with Pr. John Lomacang and he is working 00:20:11.31\00:20:17.55 in audio...in radio as an audio editor and look at God. 00:20:17.61\00:20:22.18 So Mark is there with you... So Mark is here with me too. 00:20:22.22\00:20:26.76 I didn't know that. Mark is there, he has been there 00:20:26.79\00:20:29.82 for I want to say six months now. What! 00:20:29.86\00:20:33.90 Yes. So for all of the mothers who are praying for their 00:20:33.93\00:20:38.43 children, don't give up. Don't give up because years 00:20:38.47\00:20:42.07 ago God told me He was going to save my children 00:20:42.10\00:20:45.07 and I believed Him. When He spoke to me, I knew it was God 00:20:45.11\00:20:50.61 and I was like...cause I was crying about something 00:20:50.65\00:20:54.15 that had happened with Mark and I stopped crying. 00:20:54.18\00:20:58.22 Cause the Lord said, I am going to save him. Yes! 00:20:58.25\00:21:00.76 So what am I going to cry for. 00:21:00.79\00:21:02.92 And it's taken all of these years and he's still a work 00:21:02.96\00:21:06.63 in progress. He's still got some things that he is 00:21:06.66\00:21:08.86 dealing with, but God is going to bring him through. 00:21:08.90\00:21:11.40 He is a faithful God, He will not let you down. 00:21:11.43\00:21:15.60 He just won't. And you can sit back and say 00:21:15.64\00:21:20.11 You know won't He do it? "Look at God" 00:21:20.14\00:21:23.95 Exceedingly and abundantly 00:21:23.98\00:21:26.11 more that we could ask or think. Come on. 00:21:26.15\00:21:29.22 Ah, we're preaching up in here. Don't start. Don't start. 00:21:29.25\00:21:31.59 Aren't we now. We are preaching up in here? 00:21:31.62\00:21:33.59 I can feel this. Yes indeed. 00:21:33.62\00:21:35.02 He will go over and above... I mean not save one son 00:21:35.06\00:21:37.33 and He brought both of them with you. Both with me. 00:21:37.36\00:21:41.06 I have both my boys with me. What a peace. 00:21:41.10\00:21:43.50 Oh, and what a joy to be able to talk to them... 00:21:43.53\00:21:47.40 But the other night my son said to me, 00:21:47.44\00:21:49.60 do you know any good sermons I could listen to? 00:21:49.64\00:21:51.81 I'm like...If you knew how he used to be, 00:21:51.84\00:21:54.28 he didn't want to hear about anything. 00:21:54.31\00:21:55.64 Now he's asking me about a good sermon. 00:21:55.68\00:21:58.01 I'm like, Lord, thank you. Look at that. Look at that. 00:21:58.05\00:22:01.48 Look at God. God is...He is moving. 00:22:01.52\00:22:04.12 Does he have a background in Radio? 00:22:04.15\00:22:05.55 No, no, no, he's being trained. Now he's being trained. 00:22:05.59\00:22:09.76 Because they needed some help in Radio and in Editing, 00:22:09.79\00:22:13.50 and Angie Lomacang... like a sister to me, 00:22:13.53\00:22:17.17 and so she's taken like Eagles on Ang and she's taken him 00:22:17.20\00:22:21.00 under her wing and she's helping him and teaching him 00:22:21.04\00:22:24.21 audio editing. Isn't that beautiful? 00:22:24.24\00:22:27.28 It's a blessing. How's he adjusting from the 00:22:27.31\00:22:29.58 city to West Frankfort, IL. How does he like it? 00:22:29.61\00:22:32.95 He is not a big fan, but he says this is where I need to be. 00:22:32.98\00:22:36.95 That's right. He realizes that he needs to be 00:22:36.99\00:22:40.96 there to work on himself and get himself...and have God work 00:22:40.99\00:22:46.13 on him, and the Lord is working on him. 00:22:46.16\00:22:49.46 Sometimes you just have to separate yourself and even with 00:22:49.50\00:22:53.03 what you went through with your sister...Yes. God needed to move 00:22:53.07\00:22:56.20 you to a new place. That's right. 00:22:56.24\00:22:57.57 New memories. That's right. 00:22:57.61\00:22:59.44 And to use your gifts and talents because I've seen you 00:22:59.47\00:23:01.78 on Magnify Him. Oh my goodness, talking about your new CD... 00:23:01.81\00:23:06.41 Oh sure. How did that come about? 00:23:06.45\00:23:09.78 Well, praise the Lord. I hadn't done a CD since 1996. 00:23:09.82\00:23:16.42 Really. And, um, and they have been telling me do it, 00:23:16.46\00:23:19.79 do it, do it, and I've been..., but when I go into the studio 00:23:19.83\00:23:22.60 my voice would be all crackly and stuff, I'm like awww, 00:23:22.63\00:23:25.53 I am having a bad day, I can't do it. 00:23:25.57\00:23:26.97 Because I'm working and talking all the time and then trying 00:23:27.00\00:23:31.44 to go into the studio... That just wasn't working. 00:23:31.47\00:23:33.81 Well praise the Lord, I went in not too long ago 00:23:33.84\00:23:38.21 and was able to knock a bunch of them out... 00:23:38.25\00:23:40.32 And then a lot of the songs on there are songs that I've sung 00:23:40.35\00:23:43.25 for 3ABN in the past on various projects. 00:23:43.28\00:23:46.59 So we just kind of put them all in one place and if people 00:23:46.62\00:23:49.69 just want to hear something that hopefully will have them 00:23:49.72\00:23:54.03 in a worshipful frame of mind, then they can listen to that. 00:23:54.06\00:23:58.37 I remember we did not attend the GC in Texas 00:23:58.40\00:24:02.50 but when you came out, I was like, oh no Yvonne's the 00:24:02.54\00:24:06.57 greatest thing... You know and he says I'm sitting 00:24:06.61\00:24:09.81 right here, okay. "Laughing" 00:24:09.84\00:24:12.48 And I was so excited you know, it was just so beautiful... 00:24:12.51\00:24:16.38 Praise the Lord. I mean they had a lot of 00:24:16.42\00:24:18.42 wonderful talent but to know someone who sings for the Lord.. 00:24:18.45\00:24:23.59 You know, and I've seen you at the camp meeting for 3ABN... 00:24:23.63\00:24:27.36 What is that like, I've never attended the camp meeting? 00:24:27.40\00:24:30.10 You have to come. What is that like? 00:24:30.13\00:24:31.47 It is so wonderful because we have all these different 00:24:31.50\00:24:34.77 speakers and different music, different artists and the 00:24:34.80\00:24:39.91 speakers just...this past camp meeting was one of the... 00:24:39.94\00:24:43.55 I think it was one of the largest attended ever. 00:24:43.58\00:24:45.78 Really. And it was on exposing the counterfeit and all of these 00:24:45.81\00:24:50.32 different topics like is the Bible true? and just a lot 00:24:50.35\00:24:54.52 of different topics that people want to know about with 00:24:54.56\00:24:57.73 all these different great speakers. 00:24:57.76\00:24:59.19 Some of the top speakers in the church today 00:24:59.23\00:25:01.90 and they are just coming and giving a perspective on these 00:25:01.93\00:25:06.87 different areas. And it's just, it's wonderful being there, 00:25:06.90\00:25:10.21 the second best thing to being there is watching it. 00:25:10.24\00:25:13.11 Watching it. If you can watch it, that's 00:25:13.14\00:25:14.94 great but if you can be there... To be there... 00:25:14.98\00:25:16.98 Because there is something about the atmosphere, 00:25:17.01\00:25:20.38 it's just so spirit filled. I love...I love camp meeting 00:25:20.42\00:25:25.19 cause I need to have my spirit watered. 00:25:25.22\00:25:27.49 Oh definitely. You know you are in ministry and tsh, tsh, tsh, 00:25:27.52\00:25:30.19 putting out, putting out and all this energy and this just 00:25:30.23\00:25:36.26 kind of brings the Holy Spirit more into you, so it infuses 00:25:36.30\00:25:44.11 you with energy and... You know I think what happens is 00:25:44.14\00:25:48.24 that you are able to take a step back and say Lord, 00:25:48.28\00:25:52.31 help me to be filled, I need to be re-booted, 00:25:52.35\00:25:56.18 I need to take this opportunity to draw closer to You 00:25:56.22\00:25:59.49 and I need to be still. Yes. 00:25:59.52\00:26:01.56 That's what happened to me, I went to another camp meeting, 00:26:01.59\00:26:03.93 I was preaching at the South Eastern Conference, 00:26:03.96\00:26:07.33 I was their speaker all week for Women's Ministry, 00:26:07.36\00:26:10.33 Family Life. Then I came back and Erin wanted to see her 00:26:10.37\00:26:16.04 friends and my sister was presenting so I got in the car 00:26:16.07\00:26:21.04 and drove up to Lake Region and it was a little difficult, 00:26:21.08\00:26:23.68 my first camp meeting without Arthur and people seeing me 00:26:23.71\00:26:28.62 without him. They...And then people will come up and say 00:26:28.65\00:26:31.25 I just can't even bear this, I can't even look at you because 00:26:31.29\00:26:35.36 I'm like where is Elder Nolen. I said in time. 00:26:35.39\00:26:38.33 In time you will be all right. Mmmm. 00:26:38.36\00:26:41.06 And I'm ministering to them, comforting them. 00:26:41.10\00:26:44.93 But, so it was something to sit by myself to adjust to that 00:26:44.97\00:26:51.57 and be there. So I thank the Lord for growth. 00:26:51.61\00:26:55.84 Umm. I thank the Lord for yesterday, 00:26:55.88\00:26:58.98 but I thank the Lord for what He's doing now. 00:26:59.01\00:27:01.52 Absolutely. Because you know it helps us to be able to mature 00:27:01.55\00:27:05.65 in Him. It's a new normal now. 00:27:05.69\00:27:08.22 You are trying to establish a new normal now. 00:27:08.26\00:27:12.19 Where there were two, now there is one, so it's like 00:27:12.23\00:27:15.66 your whole identity has changed. Oh yes. And it's adjusting 00:27:15.70\00:27:20.24 to that, that I know has got to be super, super challenging. 00:27:20.30\00:27:24.64 Yes very. But you are, I have to say, I'm so proud of you. 00:27:24.67\00:27:28.98 because I know that this is hard, and I know that it's a 00:27:29.01\00:27:33.28 challenge for you. Yes. But you're handling it 00:27:33.31\00:27:36.12 beautifully. Well I appreciate that. 00:27:36.15\00:27:37.99 You know we are...at the end of this broadcast. 00:27:38.02\00:27:41.82 What! Already! Oh my word. 00:27:41.86\00:27:44.23 I am just so excited, I thank the Lord for allowing me to go 00:27:44.26\00:27:47.76 through what you went through in 2009, for such a time as this. 00:27:47.80\00:27:52.70 I want to thank my boss and our General Manager 00:27:52.73\00:27:58.64 of Dare to Dream and I thank God for the vision 00:27:58.67\00:28:01.51 in the programming. 00:28:01.54\00:28:02.88 Continue to know that God will do it and "Look at God," 00:28:02.91\00:28:06.72 and "Live to Be Well." God Bless. 00:28:06.75\00:28:09.55