Hi, I'm Dr. Kim 00:00:35.53\00:00:36.87 and welcome to Live to be Well. 00:00:36.90\00:00:38.90 Today we're going to talk about: No Excuses. 00:00:38.93\00:00:42.27 My special guest is Ms. Nikki Williams. 00:00:42.30\00:00:45.27 Welcome Nikki, how are you? 00:00:45.31\00:00:46.71 I'm great and you? 00:00:46.74\00:00:48.08 You look wonderful. 00:00:48.11\00:00:49.44 Thank you, you look nice yourself. 00:00:49.48\00:00:50.81 Well, thank you. 00:00:50.85\00:00:52.18 Listen, we're talking about no excuses, 00:00:52.21\00:00:53.62 in today's society, 00:00:53.68\00:00:55.22 individuals are making excuses why they can't do this, 00:00:55.25\00:00:58.69 can't do that... can't get things accomplished 00:00:58.72\00:01:01.06 well, you are a single mom 00:01:01.09\00:01:02.92 and your son is how old? 00:01:02.96\00:01:04.66 My son is 11 years old. 00:01:04.69\00:01:06.33 Eleven years old, all right 00:01:06.36\00:01:08.00 and what's his name? 00:01:08.03\00:01:09.36 Dominic. 00:01:09.40\00:01:10.73 Dominic... can you tell us what is it like raising a son, 00:01:10.77\00:01:16.14 African-American son 00:01:16.17\00:01:17.57 and I'm not saying it's any different 00:01:17.61\00:01:20.24 but we have more challenges, 00:01:20.28\00:01:22.08 we've seen our African-American males 00:01:22.11\00:01:24.15 being in the spotlight of the news constantly... 00:01:24.18\00:01:28.92 being murdered... 00:01:28.95\00:01:30.32 being brutalized for no reason 00:01:30.35\00:01:33.36 are you worried about those kinds of things 00:01:33.39\00:01:36.06 and what is it like 00:01:36.09\00:01:37.43 and what has been the challenges for you? 00:01:37.46\00:01:39.09 Well, I am worried about those things as a single mom 00:01:39.13\00:01:43.93 or even... a single mom of a black little boy 00:01:43.97\00:01:47.47 because there are certain things that I didn't have to go through 00:01:47.54\00:01:50.27 as a little girl 00:01:50.31\00:01:51.91 so, that's what... 00:01:51.94\00:01:54.74 that's... can't think, 00:01:54.78\00:01:57.55 it's really important to me 00:01:57.58\00:01:59.31 that he has a relationship with his father 00:01:59.35\00:02:01.25 because his father can give him experiences 00:02:01.28\00:02:03.18 and things that I cannot 00:02:03.22\00:02:04.72 even though things have not always been perfect 00:02:04.75\00:02:07.62 between he and I 00:02:07.66\00:02:08.99 I do try to make sure 00:02:09.02\00:02:10.36 that he still keeps a relationship with our son. 00:02:10.39\00:02:12.96 Do you think a mother can raise excuse me... 00:02:12.99\00:02:15.63 a mother can raise a son? 00:02:15.66\00:02:17.00 I do, yeah. 00:02:17.03\00:02:18.83 But you want... because he has a father... 00:02:18.87\00:02:21.00 you want him in his life, 00:02:21.04\00:02:22.70 and he sees his father on a regular basis. 00:02:22.74\00:02:24.44 Yes. 00:02:24.47\00:02:25.81 All right, let's talk about discipline... 00:02:25.84\00:02:27.71 how do you discipline your son? 00:02:27.74\00:02:30.01 He's 11 years old and is he tall? 00:02:30.05\00:02:32.35 Yes, he's almost as tall as me now. 00:02:32.38\00:02:34.62 All right, and he is kind of going through the pre-teen thing 00:02:34.65\00:02:38.95 where... 00:02:38.99\00:02:40.52 Is he talking back? 00:02:40.56\00:02:41.99 Not really just talking back but just challenging things 00:02:42.02\00:02:45.19 or, you know, wants to know 00:02:45.23\00:02:46.90 why it has to be this way, yeah. 00:02:46.93\00:02:48.26 Hmmm... 00:02:48.30\00:02:49.80 He's not my little baby anymore, 00:02:49.83\00:02:51.17 he does get spankings... punishments... 00:02:51.20\00:02:54.87 Well, the Bible says, 00:02:54.90\00:02:56.24 "You spare the rod, you spoil the child" 00:02:56.27\00:02:57.61 you'd better... yeah, do what you have to do. 00:02:57.64\00:02:59.64 Yes, and I don't feel bad, yeah. 00:02:59.67\00:03:02.58 Are you a tough mom? 00:03:02.61\00:03:03.95 Yes, I'm very tough. 00:03:03.98\00:03:05.31 All right, can you define a tough mother 00:03:05.35\00:03:07.95 versus a mother not as tough or laid-back mom. 00:03:07.98\00:03:11.25 Well, I only have one child 00:03:11.29\00:03:16.12 but I have seen other friends raise their kids 00:03:16.16\00:03:19.93 and they did spare the rod 00:03:19.96\00:03:22.33 and unfortunately their kids had ended up in jail 00:03:22.36\00:03:26.17 or just in bad situations. 00:03:26.20\00:03:28.04 I don't want that for my son, 00:03:28.10\00:03:29.87 I don't know exactly what the future holds 00:03:29.90\00:03:32.37 but I do... I'm very strict on Dominic, 00:03:32.41\00:03:35.64 I'm aware of where he is at all times, 00:03:35.68\00:03:38.28 I go through his iPads, his phones, 00:03:38.31\00:03:41.68 so, I'm just a very hands-on mom 00:03:41.72\00:03:44.99 but me and my son have a relationship 00:03:45.02\00:03:46.35 to where I don't feel like he has to sneak around 00:03:46.39\00:03:49.62 or do anything... he comes to me... 00:03:49.66\00:03:50.99 he can talk to me because it is just me and him 00:03:51.03\00:03:53.90 so he's like my little best friend. 00:03:53.93\00:03:56.06 Oh, little best friend but you are yet still mom... 00:03:56.10\00:03:59.37 you have boundaries because I know a lot of people, 00:03:59.40\00:04:02.67 parents... "Oh no, call me by my first name" 00:04:02.70\00:04:05.21 does he call you by your first name? 00:04:05.24\00:04:06.57 No... not at all. 00:04:06.61\00:04:07.94 Oh, would you ever allow that? Nikki: No. 00:04:07.98\00:04:09.31 Kim: Neither would I, I wish you would... 00:04:09.34\00:04:11.25 now, if I'm in a crowd sometimes, 00:04:11.28\00:04:13.11 my oldest daughter... if I'm... I'm busy... 00:04:13.15\00:04:15.72 she'll say, "Kim Denise" 00:04:15.75\00:04:17.15 because everybody... once you say, "Mom... " 00:04:17.19\00:04:18.95 everybody turns around and she'll get my attention 00:04:18.99\00:04:22.46 but I had to definitely put her in check about that 00:04:22.49\00:04:24.63 let's go back to something, 00:04:24.69\00:04:26.29 when you talked about seeing other parents 00:04:26.36\00:04:30.63 raise their children and now their children are in prison, 00:04:30.67\00:04:34.54 they're not doing as well 00:04:34.57\00:04:36.20 and you are... you have that hands-on with your son, 00:04:36.27\00:04:40.08 what do you say to someone who says, 00:04:40.11\00:04:43.45 "I feel that I can just let him be free 00:04:43.51\00:04:46.78 he's going to do what he wants to do anyway. " 00:04:46.82\00:04:49.38 Well, I really feel like you can't tell anyone 00:04:49.42\00:04:53.25 how to raise their child, 00:04:53.29\00:04:54.62 some people get offended by that. 00:04:54.66\00:04:56.02 Yes. 00:04:56.06\00:04:57.39 I may say my piece but I really won't 00:04:57.43\00:04:59.09 put any pressure or interject myself on them 00:04:59.13\00:05:03.70 because I'm raising my child the way I'm raising mine 00:05:03.73\00:05:05.87 and you're going to do what you do with yours. 00:05:05.90\00:05:08.00 Do you... do you say to Dominic, 00:05:08.04\00:05:11.47 "See, this is what I'm trying to prevent you from becoming" 00:05:11.51\00:05:14.28 do you bring that to his attention? 00:05:14.31\00:05:15.64 I do because there are some male figures in our... 00:05:15.68\00:05:19.71 our own family 00:05:19.75\00:05:21.22 who did not have the best upbringing from their mothers 00:05:21.28\00:05:24.89 and so, like when he is doing something wrong, 00:05:24.95\00:05:26.69 I'm like, "You want to end up like him 00:05:26.72\00:05:28.19 or you want to end up like him?" 00:05:28.22\00:05:29.56 And he'll be like, "No mom, I don't. " 00:05:29.59\00:05:31.03 But I'm glad that he does have those people around 00:05:31.09\00:05:34.43 so he can see, like, "This is what happens 00:05:34.46\00:05:36.83 when you don't do what you're supposed to do. " 00:05:36.87\00:05:38.90 Now, I like what you said, "I check his iPad, 00:05:38.93\00:05:41.54 I go in his room, I know what's going on. " 00:05:41.60\00:05:44.24 A lot of parents... they don't do that... 00:05:44.27\00:05:46.41 they don't go into the rooms, 00:05:46.44\00:05:47.78 they don't go into their iPads, their book bags, 00:05:47.84\00:05:50.15 you need to know what's going on... 00:05:50.18\00:05:52.45 what they're watching, what they're listening to, 00:05:52.48\00:05:54.22 you know, you're the mother, 00:05:54.25\00:05:56.42 but they tend like they're timid... they're afraid... 00:05:56.52\00:05:58.62 "Well, I don't want to trespass. " 00:05:58.65\00:06:00.92 What? And the next thing you know, 00:06:00.96\00:06:03.16 your child is out there selling drugs 00:06:03.22\00:06:05.76 or you know, some things are going on 00:06:05.79\00:06:08.30 that could have been preventable you could have prevented it 00:06:08.33\00:06:11.47 so you're trying to stop your son now 00:06:11.50\00:06:14.17 before he makes those mistakes. 00:06:14.20\00:06:15.90 What kind of grades is he making? 00:06:15.94\00:06:17.27 Well, that's the thing, Dominic went to University Prep 00:06:17.31\00:06:20.84 they didn't give out grades, 00:06:20.88\00:06:22.21 K through 5th Grade they just got "Developing" 00:06:22.24\00:06:25.35 "Accomplished things" 00:06:25.38\00:06:26.92 or things of those nature so, he was accomplished... 00:06:26.95\00:06:28.92 he's going to the sixth grade 00:06:28.95\00:06:30.29 but they didn't give out letter grades, unfortunately. 00:06:30.32\00:06:32.55 Really, that's interesting, 00:06:32.62\00:06:33.96 all right, so is he going back to that school? 00:06:33.99\00:06:35.96 We're still... 00:06:35.99\00:06:37.93 I'm still undecided 00:06:37.99\00:06:40.70 because he wants to go back to the... 00:06:40.73\00:06:42.06 he wants to go to the Middle School 00:06:42.10\00:06:43.43 but I want to put him in a different school. 00:06:43.47\00:06:44.80 Because his friends are there. 00:06:44.83\00:06:46.17 Yes. 00:06:46.20\00:06:47.54 Is he a sociable child? 00:06:47.57\00:06:48.90 Very sociable. 00:06:48.94\00:06:50.27 Social butterfly. 00:06:50.31\00:06:51.64 Yes, he is, everywhere... everyone is his friend. 00:06:51.67\00:06:54.71 Kim: Everyone... Nikki: Yes. 00:06:54.74\00:06:56.08 Kim: So, he's a very, very outgoing person 00:06:56.11\00:06:58.18 so you have to be careful. 00:06:58.21\00:06:59.55 Have you ever not known where he was... 00:06:59.58\00:07:02.18 like, when you went to the store 00:07:02.22\00:07:03.55 I have to tell you the story, 00:07:03.59\00:07:05.05 you know, keep that thought, 00:07:05.09\00:07:06.72 I had Erin with me, she was only like, two years old 00:07:06.76\00:07:10.13 and my husband said, "Now, you sure you can do this 00:07:10.16\00:07:12.83 because when you go shopping, you get distracted. " 00:07:12.86\00:07:15.50 I said, "How am I going to lose a baby?" 00:07:15.53\00:07:17.57 All right, so he said, "Okay, don't lose my baby. " 00:07:17.60\00:07:20.57 So I get to the store 00:07:20.60\00:07:22.34 and I'm looking at something, so I set her down, 00:07:22.40\00:07:25.17 I say, "You stay right here" 00:07:25.21\00:07:26.54 so she was playing with the tags and everything 00:07:26.57\00:07:29.11 you know, and... I walked away... 00:07:29.14\00:07:31.28 I totally forgot about the baby, I get to the cash register 00:07:31.31\00:07:36.62 and I'm like, "No, I had a baby" 00:07:36.65\00:07:39.15 and I went back, Nikki, 00:07:39.19\00:07:41.56 and there Erin was still playing with it... 00:07:41.59\00:07:44.26 and I said, "I am so thankful you cannot talk" 00:07:44.29\00:07:46.96 but then she gets home and she was like, 00:07:47.00\00:07:49.66 playing with the tags... playing with the tags 00:07:49.70\00:07:52.33 and Arthur said, "What happened?" 00:07:52.37\00:07:53.94 and I said, "I forgot that I had a baby 00:07:53.97\00:07:57.57 all right... " 00:07:57.61\00:07:58.94 so, praise God that I didn't lose her, 00:07:58.97\00:08:01.11 I just kind of forgot about her, all right, 00:08:01.14\00:08:03.14 so, I was... it was all new, 00:08:03.18\00:08:05.08 I might have been 18 years and I had another baby... 00:08:05.11\00:08:07.68 so, have you ever been somewhere where... 00:08:07.72\00:08:09.75 you know, 00:08:09.78\00:08:11.49 when you are at the store or mall 00:08:11.55\00:08:13.19 it's like, "Where are you?" Do you kind of... 00:08:13.22\00:08:14.86 Me, personally, no... 00:08:14.89\00:08:16.22 I've never ever forgotten that I was with Dom. 00:08:16.26\00:08:20.20 Okay, make me feel bad... okay. 00:08:20.26\00:08:21.60 But, no, my mother has 00:08:21.63\00:08:23.40 like when I first move back to Detroit from... 00:08:23.43\00:08:26.00 from Ypsilanti... from school 00:08:26.03\00:08:29.07 my mother had to watch my son for like, maybe a year, 00:08:29.10\00:08:31.64 and she didn't... 00:08:31.67\00:08:33.44 they didn't tell me until like years later 00:08:33.48\00:08:35.71 but one time they were sitting on the porch 00:08:35.74\00:08:37.71 mama turned her head, 00:08:37.75\00:08:39.08 the mail lady walked down the street 00:08:39.11\00:08:40.55 and Dominic followed the mail lady 00:08:40.58\00:08:42.22 all the way down the street. 00:08:42.25\00:08:43.82 What? How old was he? 00:08:43.85\00:08:45.19 Nikki: He was like, two... Kim: No... 00:08:45.22\00:08:46.55 And she had to bring him back. 00:08:46.59\00:08:47.92 Kim: The mail lady did... Nikki: Hmmm... hmmm... 00:08:47.96\00:08:49.29 Kim: Oh oh oh oh... and they didn't tell you for a year. 00:08:49.32\00:08:52.09 Nikki: Yeah, they didn't tell me until... 00:08:52.13\00:08:53.46 Kim: That was so wrong, they knew you would be livid. 00:08:53.50\00:08:55.80 Nikki: I would flip. 00:08:55.83\00:08:57.30 Kim: Okay, what do you do or what are your... 00:08:57.33\00:09:00.30 how do you discipline him 00:09:00.34\00:09:02.20 when he does get a little beside himself 00:09:02.24\00:09:04.41 or he's not doing what he's supposed to do, 00:09:04.44\00:09:06.37 does he do chores? 00:09:06.41\00:09:07.74 He does chores sometimes not consistently like he should. 00:09:07.78\00:09:11.68 The most important thing right now is 00:09:11.71\00:09:15.38 he loves his video games, like, iPads 00:09:15.42\00:09:17.59 anything online, any Wi-Fi. 00:09:17.62\00:09:20.36 Kim: So you take that away. 00:09:20.39\00:09:23.09 Nikki: So I have to take that away, yes. 00:09:23.12\00:09:24.69 Kim: So, being a single mom and you're working 00:09:24.73\00:09:26.96 and you're doing a lot of different things. 00:09:27.00\00:09:29.10 Now, something new has just happened in your life, 00:09:29.13\00:09:32.23 and how is this going to impact your son? 00:09:32.27\00:09:35.60 Why don't you tell us what God has done for you. 00:09:35.64\00:09:38.04 Well, recently I had... 00:09:38.07\00:09:40.94 I was off of work for a couple of weeks 00:09:40.98\00:09:42.84 because I had a major surgery 00:09:42.88\00:09:44.68 and during that time period... 00:09:44.71\00:09:46.45 before... like maybe a week before 00:09:46.48\00:09:48.38 I was getting ready to go back to work, 00:09:48.42\00:09:49.75 I was like, "Oh, I do not want to go back to work, 00:09:49.78\00:09:51.45 I'm tired of sitting at a desk, 00:09:51.52\00:09:53.15 tired of looking at this computer 00:09:53.19\00:09:55.49 I'm just tired of being still here... " 00:09:55.52\00:09:57.53 so, I prayed and I asked God for something different 00:09:57.56\00:10:01.83 and He told me to apply for Flight Attendant positions 00:10:01.86\00:10:07.17 so, May 11th I filled out my first 00:10:07.24\00:10:10.27 job application as a Flight Attendant, 00:10:10.31\00:10:13.34 I went on an interview... 00:10:13.38\00:10:15.14 I went on several... I went on three interviews total 00:10:15.18\00:10:18.31 and... well, video interviews... 00:10:18.35\00:10:21.02 and to one person 00:10:21.05\00:10:22.62 but on... well, as you know, 00:10:22.65\00:10:24.45 June 14th I went to a face-to-face interview 00:10:24.49\00:10:27.49 and I got the position. 00:10:27.52\00:10:30.13 Kim: And God is so good. Nikki: Like a month later. 00:10:30.16\00:10:33.16 Kim: Yes, so now you're getting ready to transition 00:10:33.19\00:10:36.16 to the training to become a flight attendant 00:10:36.20\00:10:40.80 and then be out there doing what... a new avenue... 00:10:40.84\00:10:45.41 now, how did your son feel about this? 00:10:45.44\00:10:47.51 Well, my son is probably going to be a little happy 00:10:47.54\00:10:51.75 because I am so strict, so, he'll have a little freedom. 00:10:51.81\00:10:57.39 Kim: Uh hmmm... not too much. 00:10:57.42\00:10:59.05 Nikki: Not too much because he'll be with his dad... 00:10:59.09\00:11:00.82 between my mom and his dad. Kim: Okay. 00:11:00.86\00:11:03.26 Nikki: But that is a big thing right now, 00:11:03.29\00:11:05.69 just trying to transition on whose... 00:11:05.73\00:11:08.03 I'm going to be gone, initially, for over a month 00:11:08.06\00:11:11.37 and then, whatever my schedule permits afterwards, so... 00:11:11.40\00:11:14.74 not being there... that's going to be different. 00:11:14.77\00:11:16.81 Kim: Hands on. 00:11:16.84\00:11:18.54 Nikki: Yeah, I think that every day and... 00:11:18.57\00:11:21.04 Kim: Well, you can do video chat and things like that. 00:11:21.08\00:11:23.48 Nikki: Yeah. Kim: I want to go back... 00:11:23.51\00:11:25.61 I remember when you first came to see me 00:11:25.65\00:11:28.55 and you wanted me to become your Therapist 00:11:28.58\00:11:31.45 and had some real challenges 00:11:31.49\00:11:33.25 and I've seen you become... 00:11:33.29\00:11:34.99 you have just evolved, Nikki, and I'm so proud of you 00:11:35.02\00:11:38.23 and I'm not just saying that because 00:11:38.26\00:11:39.59 you know... you and I have battled in counseling 00:11:39.63\00:11:41.86 and let them know how you say my name 00:11:41.93\00:11:44.87 when you get upset with me, go ahead and say it. 00:11:44.90\00:11:47.04 Nikki: Dr. Logan... 00:11:47.07\00:11:48.40 Kim: Dr. Logan... Dr. Logan, I love it, 00:11:48.44\00:11:50.21 no one says it like you 00:11:50.24\00:11:51.64 and we can deal with certain issues 00:11:51.67\00:11:55.21 and we have to go there 00:11:55.24\00:11:56.91 so, I remember when we talked about... 00:11:56.95\00:11:59.41 and the reason why the Lord put it in my heart, no excuses, 00:11:59.45\00:12:01.95 you would say, "I hope... I hope... " 00:12:01.98\00:12:04.35 I said, "You have the job" 00:12:04.39\00:12:06.32 and I told you that, 00:12:06.35\00:12:07.76 God would not even open that door for you 00:12:07.79\00:12:11.63 and allow it... 00:12:11.66\00:12:13.03 He doesn't tease us and just dangle things in our way 00:12:13.06\00:12:16.03 and say, "Oh I think I might give you this" 00:12:16.06\00:12:18.77 when the door opens and you know it's the Lord 00:12:18.83\00:12:21.50 because we prayed... 00:12:21.54\00:12:22.90 and certain things... you... 00:12:22.94\00:12:24.81 you began to change certain behaviors and lifestyle 00:12:24.84\00:12:28.51 and God began to open doors for you 00:12:28.54\00:12:31.65 and giving your life to Christ your son was baptized, 00:12:31.68\00:12:35.22 he is on the Usher Board. Nikki: Yes. 00:12:35.25\00:12:37.39 Kim: He serves as an Usher and, you know... 00:12:37.42\00:12:39.72 so, working with your relationship with God... 00:12:39.75\00:12:41.99 how important is God in your life 00:12:42.02\00:12:45.13 as you begin to take this new journey. 00:12:45.16\00:12:47.53 Nikki: God is very important in my life, 00:12:47.56\00:12:49.83 the one thing that you said to me that clicked the most 00:12:49.86\00:12:53.70 and I don't know why it was so important was... 00:12:53.74\00:12:55.94 when I was like, "How do you know when God is listening?" 00:12:55.97\00:12:58.11 Or, "How do you know when God wants something for you?" 00:12:58.14\00:13:00.24 And you just nonchalantly said, "He opens the door 00:13:00.28\00:13:03.35 and if He doesn't open the door, 00:13:03.38\00:13:04.71 it's not for you, go somewhere else. " 00:13:04.75\00:13:06.35 And even though that was so simple, 00:13:06.38\00:13:08.05 it was so big for me because that's what I follow now, 00:13:08.08\00:13:12.15 like, if I want something, I ask for it, 00:13:12.19\00:13:14.06 if a door opens... it's for me, 00:13:14.09\00:13:16.39 if it doesn't open, it's not for me. 00:13:16.42\00:13:17.76 Kim: Yes. 00:13:17.79\00:13:19.13 Nikki: Before, I think, I used to just wait... 00:13:19.16\00:13:20.50 wait, wait, wait, trying to figure out... 00:13:20.53\00:13:21.86 you know, I didn't know what I was doing, 00:13:21.90\00:13:23.83 but just... me having this better relationship with God 00:13:23.87\00:13:26.37 and praying... 00:13:26.40\00:13:27.74 me coming to you... helping me... 00:13:27.77\00:13:29.10 Kim: Praise the Lord. 00:13:29.14\00:13:30.47 Nikki: Just makes everything a little bit more clearer now 00:13:30.51\00:13:33.01 and He is number one in my life right now. 00:13:33.04\00:13:36.11 Kim: I still hold you accountable 00:13:36.14\00:13:37.48 because we are still working through our treatment plan 00:13:37.51\00:13:40.92 of accountability 00:13:40.95\00:13:42.28 also, our standards... our values... 00:13:42.32\00:13:44.72 also, our measurement... 00:13:44.75\00:13:46.42 how do you measure 00:13:46.45\00:13:48.32 the Nikki... where she was and Nikki now? 00:13:48.36\00:13:51.19 I don't really know how I would measure myself 00:13:51.23\00:13:55.26 but I do see a difference... 00:13:55.30\00:13:56.90 I was broken when I first came to you 00:13:56.93\00:14:00.04 and... 00:14:00.07\00:14:01.40 Kim: I remember. Nikki: I don't want to cry. 00:14:01.44\00:14:04.11 Kim: That's all right, you're just being real. 00:14:04.14\00:14:06.88 Nikki: I was broken and 00:14:06.91\00:14:08.71 I didn't know what I was going to do, 00:14:08.74\00:14:10.15 I was just hurt... betrayed... 00:14:10.18\00:14:11.81 and I just felt I'm a stronger person now 00:14:11.85\00:14:14.32 like, what I came to you for... I can laugh about it now. 00:14:14.35\00:14:17.85 Kim: Yes you can, 00:14:17.89\00:14:19.22 so, on a scale of zero being the lowest... ten being the highest, 00:14:19.25\00:14:22.66 where is Nikki now in her measurement of her growth? 00:14:22.69\00:14:25.63 Nikki: I would say, like an eight and a half. 00:14:25.66\00:14:27.23 Kim: Eight and a half... you know, 00:14:27.26\00:14:29.03 listen, your tears are real... 00:14:29.06\00:14:30.77 God has done a marvelous work in your life 00:14:30.80\00:14:34.54 and there's nothing to be ashamed about 00:14:34.57\00:14:37.67 because I know your journey and I'm just... 00:14:37.71\00:14:40.28 I'm proud to be a part of that journey. 00:14:40.31\00:14:42.78 It's like, put your hand right here, 00:14:42.81\00:14:44.91 all right... and... that's how I can tell you 00:14:44.98\00:14:47.68 if God opens it, it connects... 00:14:47.72\00:14:49.82 if it doesn't connect, 00:14:49.85\00:14:51.49 then God says, "I've got something else for you" 00:14:51.52\00:14:53.66 God is very clear what He has for you 00:14:53.69\00:14:56.12 and as I sat in the back office with you 00:14:56.19\00:14:58.59 listening to you 00:14:58.66\00:15:00.06 and you were just going on and on... 00:15:00.10\00:15:01.43 I said, "Nikki, stop... stop... " 00:15:01.46\00:15:03.43 and I said, "God is in control, 00:15:03.47\00:15:05.37 He's just waiting for you to trust Him... 00:15:05.40\00:15:07.74 to lean on Him... and believe Him" 00:15:07.77\00:15:10.34 that's why I love that Scripture Proverbs 3:5 and 6, 00:15:10.37\00:15:12.67 "Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; 00:15:12.71\00:15:15.34 and lean not to thine own understanding. 00:15:15.38\00:15:17.98 In all they ways acknowledge Him, 00:15:18.01\00:15:19.61 and He will direct your path. " 00:15:19.65\00:15:21.18 He's making your path, 00:15:21.22\00:15:22.95 so now, you're going to be flying 00:15:22.98\00:15:25.25 all over the place, 00:15:25.29\00:15:26.62 you love to travel, don't you? 00:15:26.65\00:15:27.99 Nikki: I do, I love to travel. 00:15:28.02\00:15:29.36 Kim: Yes, you're getting ready to go, 00:15:29.39\00:15:30.73 where are you getting ready to leave to now? 00:15:30.76\00:15:32.09 Nikki: In two weeks, I'm going to Cuba. 00:15:32.13\00:15:34.33 Kim: Cuba! Hmmm... 00:15:34.36\00:15:35.96 Nikki: And then a week later, I have to go to Vegas. 00:15:36.00\00:15:37.87 Kim: And Vegas, yes, and then you're off to your training 00:15:37.90\00:15:40.57 you know, 00:15:40.60\00:15:42.00 do you have any concerns now that God has opened the door 00:15:42.04\00:15:44.97 you will pass all your tests. 00:15:45.01\00:15:46.91 Nikki: No concerns... just in God's hand... 00:15:46.94\00:15:49.04 like you said, "If he brought it to me, 00:15:49.08\00:15:50.55 He'll bring it... me through... all the way through it. " 00:15:50.58\00:15:52.65 And He will bring it... 00:15:52.68\00:15:54.02 you put all that information in your mind, 00:15:54.05\00:15:55.82 He will bring it back to your remembrance. 00:15:55.85\00:15:58.99 He heard your cry, He heard your plea, 00:15:59.02\00:16:01.59 He says, "I'm going to move my daughter" 00:16:01.62\00:16:03.73 because... and remember what I told you, 00:16:03.76\00:16:05.83 He is not allowing you to become a Flight Attendant 00:16:05.86\00:16:09.43 for your glory, 00:16:09.46\00:16:10.87 it is for His glory... for you to witness... 00:16:10.90\00:16:14.24 for you to be a vessel, 00:16:14.30\00:16:15.74 when people walk on that flight, 00:16:15.77\00:16:17.11 they're going to see that beautiful smile 00:16:17.14\00:16:18.87 that Nikki had, yes... 00:16:18.91\00:16:20.68 "Welcome, how are you?" 00:16:20.71\00:16:22.34 while you're serving beverages, while you're engaging... 00:16:22.41\00:16:26.05 someone may need to hear a word from God 00:16:26.08\00:16:29.58 and God is going to allow you to do that 00:16:29.62\00:16:33.09 because someone could be hurting... 00:16:33.15\00:16:35.12 someone could be on their way to... to go through a divorce 00:16:35.16\00:16:39.23 or their child just passed away 00:16:39.26\00:16:41.83 and you may see that person's head down... 00:16:41.86\00:16:44.27 you may say, "Is there anything I can do?" 00:16:44.30\00:16:46.70 "Is there anything I can get you?" 00:16:46.74\00:16:48.07 "Are you all right?" 00:16:48.10\00:16:49.44 And I think you have the type of discernment 00:16:49.47\00:16:52.27 to key into that 00:16:52.31\00:16:53.64 and I think you're going to be an absolute phenomenon. 00:16:53.68\00:16:55.88 "Don't be on my plane" 00:16:55.91\00:16:57.28 and I'm going to be like, "Excuse me... 00:16:57.31\00:16:58.88 I need this... it's to... " 00:16:58.91\00:17:00.42 "Hmmm... hmmm... don't Dr. Logan" 00:17:00.45\00:17:02.18 "Oh, excuse me, isn't your name Nikki?" 00:17:02.22\00:17:04.35 Okay... 00:17:04.39\00:17:05.72 So, I am excited, 00:17:05.75\00:17:07.69 what other avenues are you now looking at for your life, 00:17:07.72\00:17:12.39 you know, your education, 00:17:12.43\00:17:14.73 another type of business 00:17:14.76\00:17:17.00 because you had a business in mind 00:17:17.03\00:17:18.50 but that... we're going to keep that quiet 00:17:18.53\00:17:21.04 because it still may happen... it is a phenomenon... 00:17:21.07\00:17:24.94 my General Manager, Dr. Lewis, would love it, all right, 00:17:24.97\00:17:27.68 so we can share it with her afterward 00:17:27.74\00:17:29.94 but anything else on the table for Nikki? 00:17:29.98\00:17:31.95 Well, I still want to do my business, 00:17:32.01\00:17:33.62 for instance, because my niece... 00:17:33.68\00:17:35.22 I was with her the other day, she did mention like, 00:17:35.25\00:17:37.02 "When are you starting that?" 00:17:37.05\00:17:38.39 And I was like, "Oh, I am... just hold off" 00:17:38.42\00:17:42.02 of course, you know, I was studying for the LSA... 00:17:42.06\00:17:44.43 but I put that on the back burner for right now 00:17:44.46\00:17:46.76 up until after I'm accustomed to the Flight Attendant position 00:17:46.80\00:17:52.10 because I know I would have free time to study for that 00:17:52.13\00:17:54.20 but I don't know exactly what I'm going to do, 00:17:54.24\00:17:56.04 right now, my main concern is 00:17:56.07\00:17:58.01 preparing Dominic for a new school 00:17:58.04\00:18:00.94 and to be responsible 00:18:00.98\00:18:04.48 while I'm not in his presence. 00:18:04.51\00:18:06.41 Okay and then passing everything doing everything 00:18:06.45\00:18:09.38 and you're friendly, you're going to meet a lot of people. 00:18:09.42\00:18:12.09 Let's talk about Counseling. 00:18:12.12\00:18:15.19 Why is Counseling or how did it help you? 00:18:15.22\00:18:18.29 I feel like it helped me because I just needed someone to talk to 00:18:18.33\00:18:24.40 I needed someone to give me a better point of view 00:18:24.43\00:18:29.34 whether it was you telling me, 00:18:29.37\00:18:30.71 "Nikki, that's not worth you crying about" 00:18:30.74\00:18:32.21 or "Nikki, he was beneath you. " 00:18:32.24\00:18:35.61 Did I say that? I did say that, hmmm. 00:18:35.64\00:18:37.85 I was having self-esteem issues. 00:18:37.88\00:18:40.52 Yes, you're so beautiful. 00:18:40.55\00:18:43.28 And I just felt like... that just really helped me... 00:18:43.32\00:18:45.79 I needed, basically, just to talk to someone. 00:18:45.82\00:18:47.76 You can't talk... you can't always go to your friends 00:18:47.79\00:18:49.59 or even your parents, 00:18:49.62\00:18:50.96 you need someone that's unbiased, basically, 00:18:50.99\00:18:53.26 that doesn't even know you. 00:18:53.29\00:18:54.63 And I didn't know you, I did not know you, 00:18:54.66\00:18:56.30 I didn't... I've been in a relationship with you, 00:18:56.33\00:18:58.33 the only one in your family, 00:18:58.37\00:18:59.70 but I wanted to help you 00:18:59.73\00:19:01.07 and the first day you came in, you spoke to me 00:19:01.10\00:19:03.44 and I'm like, "Oooh, we're going to be here awhile. " 00:19:03.47\00:19:06.37 It's been years... 00:19:06.41\00:19:08.28 Two years. 00:19:08.31\00:19:09.64 Two years... and you're still with me 00:19:09.68\00:19:11.88 but that's a good... that's good because 00:19:11.91\00:19:14.88 you did not come just to hit or miss 00:19:14.92\00:19:17.49 and "Thank you for a few sessions" 00:19:17.52\00:19:19.99 if you really are going to work with changes in your life 00:19:20.02\00:19:23.16 and I recommend everyone go to counseling, 00:19:23.19\00:19:25.76 Premarital Counseling... when you're married... 00:19:25.79\00:19:28.13 if you're single, single parents, 00:19:28.16\00:19:30.27 as an individual, 00:19:30.30\00:19:31.63 and even now, myself, being in Counseling 00:19:31.67\00:19:34.17 after losing my husband, 00:19:34.20\00:19:35.54 there's so many things inside of me 00:19:35.57\00:19:37.61 that I'm pouring out and it's good to go to someone 00:19:37.64\00:19:41.91 who does not know you 00:19:41.94\00:19:43.28 and I went back to my previous therapist... 00:19:43.31\00:19:46.01 psychologist that I knew 00:19:46.05\00:19:48.35 when my grandmother passed away and my brother... 00:19:48.38\00:19:51.19 so, how has this also helped you 00:19:51.22\00:19:54.99 because you sometimes get very agitated with your father 00:19:55.02\00:19:59.03 and how old is your father? 00:19:59.06\00:20:01.90 My dad is 86... 00:20:01.93\00:20:03.63 Why do you get so agitated with him? 00:20:03.67\00:20:06.27 Pause. 00:20:06.30\00:20:08.64 I don't have an answer for that. 00:20:08.70\00:20:10.07 Do you think you lack patience with him? 00:20:10.11\00:20:12.64 Probably so, 00:20:12.67\00:20:14.48 I think it's just now me being grown and having to... 00:20:14.51\00:20:18.31 I don't have to be there, 00:20:18.35\00:20:20.22 I'm there by choice... but to still... 00:20:20.28\00:20:22.15 You're living with your father. Nikki: Yes. 00:20:22.18\00:20:23.79 Which is really good because if anything happens to him, 00:20:23.82\00:20:27.49 you are there to help him. 00:20:27.56\00:20:29.06 Right, I think sometimes it's just frustrating 00:20:29.09\00:20:31.76 it all being on me 00:20:31.79\00:20:34.26 when I have other siblings that could help. 00:20:34.30\00:20:37.03 That could help, you recently lost your brother 00:20:37.07\00:20:39.80 and can we talk a little bit about that? 00:20:39.83\00:20:43.14 Sure. 00:20:43.17\00:20:44.51 How did you handle all of that? 00:20:44.54\00:20:47.24 I know you called, we dealt with it in therapy 00:20:47.28\00:20:49.81 and you just... you just celebrated his... 00:20:49.84\00:20:51.75 was it first-year anniversary? 00:20:51.78\00:20:53.52 So, how are you doing with that? 00:20:53.55\00:20:55.25 I'm doing okay, 00:20:55.28\00:20:57.09 although I love my brother, we were not that close 00:20:57.12\00:21:00.39 because of just issues that I felt, 00:21:00.42\00:21:04.39 things I disagree with how he raised his kids, 00:21:04.43\00:21:08.10 how he had kids and just not really... 00:21:08.13\00:21:12.40 we didn't see eye-to-eye on a whole bunch of subjects 00:21:12.43\00:21:14.90 but I still love my brother, I miss him dearly, 00:21:14.94\00:21:17.74 we didn't see eye-to-eye though. 00:21:17.77\00:21:19.21 He was your older brother. Nikki: Yes. 00:21:19.24\00:21:21.61 All right and how did he pass away? 00:21:21.64\00:21:23.95 Because you said he was... he was just... 00:21:23.98\00:21:25.91 why don't you tell what happened? 00:21:25.95\00:21:27.28 Basically, he just had a heart attack and died overnight, 00:21:27.32\00:21:31.85 I wouldn't say, "In his sleep" because he woke up... 00:21:31.89\00:21:33.79 but I guess it would be, essentially, in his sleep. 00:21:33.82\00:21:35.66 Hmmm... 00:21:35.72\00:21:37.06 48 years old. 00:21:37.09\00:21:38.43 48 years old... and then you got the call at night 00:21:38.46\00:21:41.30 or the next morning? 00:21:41.33\00:21:42.66 It was around midnight we got the phone call. 00:21:42.70\00:21:44.37 You got the phone call. Nikki: Yes. 00:21:44.43\00:21:45.77 Could you believe it, did you accept it? 00:21:45.80\00:21:47.90 No, even to this day I still don't believe it, 00:21:47.94\00:21:50.71 it still hurts to just think he's never coming back, 00:21:50.77\00:21:55.84 he was a truck driver so you just always assume 00:21:55.88\00:21:58.28 he's coming home... he's coming home. 00:21:58.31\00:22:00.65 Right, yes, I went through that with... 00:22:00.68\00:22:02.28 and I still, sometimes, I say... 00:22:02.32\00:22:04.19 but I know he's not on a golf trip 00:22:04.22\00:22:06.25 and I think that makes me do better... 00:22:06.29\00:22:08.32 "No, he's not coming back" 00:22:08.36\00:22:10.03 and I have to tell... and my therapist 00:22:10.06\00:22:12.26 excuse me, said to me, 00:22:12.29\00:22:14.06 "Kim, you have to say he's not coming back" 00:22:14.10\00:22:16.70 and I said, "I don't want to say that" 00:22:16.73\00:22:18.53 she said, "But Honey, he's not coming back. " 00:22:18.57\00:22:20.70 So, in therapy ten times 00:22:20.74\00:22:23.74 I had to say, "Arthur is not coming back" 00:22:23.81\00:22:26.61 "Arthur... " then she had me say, 00:22:26.64\00:22:28.54 "He's resting in the Lord... He's resting in the Lord" 00:22:28.58\00:22:32.38 and this is why, I wanted it also, a Christian... 00:22:32.41\00:22:36.08 and I have a Seventh-day Adventist Psychologist 00:22:36.15\00:22:39.75 so that it... it really helps me to focus in 00:22:39.79\00:22:43.36 on what the Word of God says, 00:22:43.39\00:22:44.73 and then soon the trumpet shall sound, 00:22:44.76\00:22:46.86 the dead in Christ shall rise. 00:22:46.90\00:22:48.23 What makes Nikki happy? 00:22:48.26\00:22:50.67 Pause. 00:22:50.70\00:22:52.63 Traveling. 00:22:52.67\00:22:54.50 Yes, you love to travel, shopping? 00:22:54.54\00:22:56.97 I'm not really a shopper, 00:22:57.01\00:22:58.94 you're a shopper, I'm not a shopper. 00:22:58.97\00:23:00.31 I only shop when I need to. 00:23:00.34\00:23:01.94 You know, those shoes look kind of familiar 00:23:01.98\00:23:04.01 I think so, I think they came off my stack 00:23:04.05\00:23:05.98 but I'm going to leave that alone. 00:23:06.01\00:23:07.35 Thank you for supporting the Arthur E. Nowlin Foundation. 00:23:07.38\00:23:10.45 I loved to. 00:23:10.49\00:23:11.82 I appreciate that, but traveling... 00:23:11.85\00:23:14.12 you enjoy going out... having nice dinners... 00:23:14.16\00:23:16.89 Yes. 00:23:16.93\00:23:18.26 You enjoy spending time with your family 00:23:18.29\00:23:19.63 specially with your son. Nikki: My son. 00:23:19.66\00:23:21.33 How do you and his father get along? 00:23:21.36\00:23:23.10 We have our moments, some days are better than others 00:23:23.16\00:23:28.60 but like today, we had a little orientation to school 00:23:28.64\00:23:34.04 I'm happy when he shows up, 00:23:34.08\00:23:35.68 I'm happy that he wants to be a part of Dominic's life 00:23:35.71\00:23:38.88 because I know there are some fathers 00:23:38.91\00:23:40.75 that are not a part of their kids' lives, so... 00:23:40.78\00:23:43.95 You don't like to use the term, "Deadbeat dads" 00:23:43.99\00:23:46.89 but where do you think that term came from? 00:23:46.92\00:23:49.79 Deadbeat versus non-existence... non-involved... 00:23:49.82\00:23:53.56 where do you think that came from? 00:23:53.60\00:23:56.23 Because there are so many deadbeat fathers out here, 00:23:56.26\00:23:59.47 there are plenty of dads that have kids 00:23:59.50\00:24:01.67 and they don't see them on a regular basis, 00:24:01.70\00:24:03.57 they don't call them, they don't interact with them 00:24:03.61\00:24:06.24 they just leave it totally up to the mom 00:24:06.27\00:24:09.21 to figure everything out. 00:24:09.24\00:24:11.78 The responsibility... you know, 00:24:11.81\00:24:13.15 and then a lot of men... 00:24:13.18\00:24:14.62 and that... again, I'm not trying to jump on men 00:24:14.65\00:24:18.85 but they will quit their jobs 00:24:18.89\00:24:20.92 before they have to pay child support. 00:24:20.96\00:24:23.43 Yes, I know a few people that did that. 00:24:23.46\00:24:25.89 "I refuse to pay child support" 00:24:25.93\00:24:28.43 and I remember even an athlete who killed a woman 00:24:28.46\00:24:32.30 while she was pregnant 00:24:32.33\00:24:33.67 because he didn't want to pay child support... 00:24:33.70\00:24:35.27 but she lived long enough to name the person who shot her 00:24:35.30\00:24:38.44 and now he's in prison for the rest of his life. 00:24:38.47\00:24:40.94 It would have been easy... 00:24:40.98\00:24:42.51 easier to just pay the child support 00:24:42.54\00:24:44.68 and you would have been able to go on with your life 00:24:44.71\00:24:47.12 but again, the selfish modality of it. 00:24:47.15\00:24:50.32 I think that it's important 00:24:50.35\00:24:52.39 that as we continue the counseling process 00:24:52.42\00:24:55.92 because we're not done yet 00:24:55.96\00:24:57.29 and I can tell you... 00:24:57.33\00:24:58.66 why do you think we're not done with your counseling? 00:24:58.69\00:25:00.53 Um... I think there are some family issues 00:25:00.56\00:25:05.60 that we probably need to go over 00:25:05.63\00:25:06.97 that we probably haven't addressed... 00:25:07.00\00:25:09.10 because, you know, when I get mad, 00:25:09.14\00:25:11.51 I stop talking to people. 00:25:11.54\00:25:12.87 Yes, you do... you totally... Nikki shuts down 00:25:12.91\00:25:15.68 and I have never seen a person get... 00:25:15.74\00:25:18.91 you know, that look... give me that look. 00:25:18.95\00:25:21.78 I don't know... 00:25:21.82\00:25:23.28 You know that look you do, you're like... 00:25:23.32\00:25:25.45 your eyes... your eyes get real small, 00:25:25.49\00:25:27.79 "Dr. Logan, they shouldn't have done this" 00:25:27.82\00:25:30.36 and "Dr. Logan, well, I think I have this opinion" 00:25:30.39\00:25:32.73 and "Dr. Logan... this... " 00:25:32.76\00:25:34.10 And I'm like, "Uh huh, where does all this come from?" 00:25:34.13\00:25:37.73 And so, we have to get in there and resolve that... 00:25:37.77\00:25:41.70 so it doesn't pour into your son, 00:25:41.74\00:25:44.24 we don't want that to go on your son. 00:25:44.27\00:25:46.68 Do you... do you want to get married some day? 00:25:46.71\00:25:49.14 Yes. 00:25:49.21\00:25:50.58 Why do you say "Yes... yes?" 00:25:50.61\00:25:51.95 Because I don't know who doesn't want to get married. 00:25:51.98\00:25:54.78 There are a lot of people who don't 00:25:54.82\00:25:56.55 believe it or not, I didn't want to get married. 00:25:56.58\00:25:58.72 Well, I want to get married. 00:25:58.75\00:26:00.16 You want to get married, you know, 00:26:00.19\00:26:01.69 Arthur came from somewhere okay, 00:26:01.72\00:26:03.16 but God is good, because God knew that's what I needed 00:26:03.19\00:26:06.80 all right, so, you want to get married, all right, 00:26:06.83\00:26:10.33 let's talk about the type of man you are asking God for. 00:26:10.37\00:26:13.84 First of all, are you asking God... 00:26:13.87\00:26:15.64 or are you trying to find him? 00:26:15.67\00:26:17.81 I think before, I was trying to find him, 00:26:17.87\00:26:20.68 or make an Ex'd boyfriend be the one 00:26:20.71\00:26:25.18 but right now, I'm just letting... 00:26:25.21\00:26:27.42 I'm not really looking right now, 00:26:27.45\00:26:29.15 I have other things to worry about. 00:26:29.18\00:26:30.79 See, it's like this book, 00:26:30.82\00:26:32.15 it's like, all those X's have blown away, 00:26:32.19\00:26:34.42 you know, because I've got your file and all... 00:26:34.49\00:26:38.13 how many people... 00:26:38.16\00:26:40.13 but we had to let them all go, didn't we? 00:26:40.20\00:26:41.93 Yeah. 00:26:41.96\00:26:43.30 And I didn't... I never wanted to judge you, 00:26:43.33\00:26:45.73 you know, you never felt that way 00:26:45.80\00:26:47.14 but I just felt that God has something so much better for you 00:26:47.17\00:26:51.21 if you could just be patient and allow God to prepare you 00:26:51.24\00:26:55.41 and someone told me once, 00:26:55.44\00:26:57.01 "While you're waiting, 00:26:57.05\00:26:58.51 what did you bring in to the table?" 00:26:58.58\00:27:01.02 Work on you... let God work on you... 00:27:01.05\00:27:03.42 don't look for a man, 00:27:03.45\00:27:04.79 I remember my Pastor, Marshall T. Kelly 00:27:04.82\00:27:07.49 and he said to me, 00:27:07.56\00:27:08.96 when I was like, 11 years old, 00:27:08.99\00:27:10.33 "Kim, what do you want to be?" 00:27:10.36\00:27:11.69 And I said, "I'd like to be... get my Ph. D. 00:27:11.73\00:27:15.03 Psychologist... a Counselor... " 00:27:15.06\00:27:17.07 you know, he said, "Good" 00:27:17.10\00:27:18.60 because a lot of young ladies, leave... go off to school... 00:27:18.63\00:27:21.77 and they want to marry a doctor, marry a dentist, marry a... 00:27:21.80\00:27:24.64 but he... he taught us, "Become one" 00:27:24.67\00:27:27.11 become one... become independent" 00:27:27.14\00:27:29.48 so that you can take care of yourself, 00:27:29.51\00:27:31.51 and that's what I like about you... 00:27:31.55\00:27:33.48 you are able to take care of yourself, 00:27:33.52\00:27:35.42 Nikki, I am just excited about where your life is going, 00:27:35.45\00:27:39.52 I'm going to always be here for you, 00:27:39.55\00:27:41.42 I'm glad that you are waiting on God now, 00:27:41.46\00:27:44.69 and you're praying, you're reading your Word, 00:27:44.73\00:27:47.76 you're back in church, you have your son in church, 00:27:47.80\00:27:50.67 you're walking with the Lord, 00:27:50.70\00:27:52.33 so great things ahead 00:27:52.37\00:27:54.17 so, no excuses, say that... 00:27:54.20\00:27:56.34 "No excuses. " 00:27:56.37\00:27:57.71 We're done with excuses. 00:27:57.74\00:27:59.07 We are, definitely. 00:27:59.11\00:28:00.44 We are waiting on the Lord. 00:28:00.48\00:28:01.81 Well, listen, I'm waiting on the Lord 00:28:01.84\00:28:03.18 and I want you to wait on the Lord. 00:28:03.21\00:28:04.75 I'm Dr. Kim, continue to live to be well. 00:28:04.81\00:28:08.38 God bless. 00:28:08.42\00:28:09.75