Hi, I'm Dr. Kim and
welcome to Live to be Well.
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When you think
about compromising,
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you have to think about,
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"Am I going to go to
the left, to the right...
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or stay in the middle. "
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Even God says in His Holy Word,
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"If you cannot make a decision,
you can't just go to the left,
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you can't go to the right,
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He will spew you
out of His mouth... "
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you have to make a decision.
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So, today we're going to talk
about: Refusing to Compromise.
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I have a special guest,
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I've known her
since she was a baby
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and she is just
now turning 18 recently
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her name is: Ms. Eden Harrison
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and I want to welcome
her on: Live to be Well.
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Eden: Thank you.
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Kim: Hello Precious. Eden: Hi
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Kim: I'm so excited.
Eden: I'm glad to be here.
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Kim: Oh my goodness,
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I was so excited
to get your phone call
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when we were doing that
assignment for your class
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and we're going to talk
about that a little bit later,
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all right. Eden: Okay, great.
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Kim: Well, let's talk about
Eden I love the name, Eden...
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Thank you.
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And your sister's name is, Eve
and Eden... I love it, all right
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but Eden, you're a
Seventh-day Adventist.
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Yes.
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And you were born in a
nuclear family, mom and dad...
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and I've known
you all your life,
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even when you were in
your mother's womb... at church
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so let's talk about
you... your life growing up
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in the Seventh-day
Adventist Church...
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a Seventh-day Adventist home
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and yet you went to
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private public school
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and what were some of
the challenges you had
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growing up in your formative
years... into high school
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and then we'll
talk about college.
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Well, the biggest challenge
I would say in high school was
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my high school
Detroit Country Day
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they were sports based
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so there were a lot of sports
that you were required to play
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so part of the biggest
feeling I had of feeling left...
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like, the biggest
feeling of being left out
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was when I couldn't
do things on Saturdays
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because a lot of
the... I was good at sports
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but a lot of the big tournaments
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and big Track
Meets were on Saturdays
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and the coaches were always...
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they couldn't discriminate
based off of religion
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but they would always be like,
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"Oh well, she can't do this
so don't even put her in these"
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certain...
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or the certain activities
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that they would
do for the people
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who could go to
those bigger things
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so, that was the biggest
feeling I had of being left out
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that and like, not
taking the ACT on Saturdays.
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Okay, did you have any
resentment at that point
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being Adventist... that
you couldn't participate?
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It was annoying
but it was just...
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it was just...
that's just what it was.
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Okay, it is what it is...
and your parents stood by that.
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Yes.
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And they would not allow... did
you ever ask your mom and dad
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"Can I do
this... can I do that?"
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No...
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Because you knew that the...
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the foundation of your
family... your home, all right.
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Now, let's talk about you
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and where you are
in your life right now,
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you are the
youngest... and are you spoiled?
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A little... just a little.
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How did you choose
to attend Spelman...
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Spelman College in
Atlanta... so far from home,
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you know.
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Really... I did not
even truly know about Spelman
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until my Senior year.
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I... the school I went to
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really just damaged
my thoughts on HBCUs
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because it made me feel
like HBCUs weren't good enough.
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Historically Black
Colleges... hmmm...
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Yes, Historical
Black Colleges and...
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through that, I
thought was going to...
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I applied to
University of Michigan...
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University of
Rochester, New York,
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I wanted to go to
all these big schools
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but then my
College Counselor was like,
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why don't you think
about this school...
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I was like, "Uh... " but then,
I didn't really get into UOM
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so I had to look
at my back-up options
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and I had applied to Spelman
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and I just said... I just
prayed about it for a long time
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and then God was...
it just... it just...
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the decision made
sense all of a sudden
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so I decided to go there and
I have no regrets, I love it.
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Did you apply to
Oakwood or Andrews?
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No.
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Okay, why didn't you apply to
a Seventh-day Adventist School?
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I don't know,
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it just didn't necessarily
feel like the path for me
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I do believe it is
the path for anybody
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but I do pray... I just pray a
lot about every decision I make
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and the decision
just felt like Spelman.
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Kim: Okay. Eden: Yeah.
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Kim: So, how was the
adjustment, being at home...
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living at home
and now you're there,
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you had a roommate in college?
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Yes.
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All right, and did you know
her before going to Spelman?
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No, not at all.
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All right, so, did
you all get along well?
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She is one of my best friends.
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Kim: That's wonderful, all
right Eden: Yes, I love her.
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Kim: Now, what's your
major? Eden: Psychology.
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Kim: All right, so you want
to be a Clinical Psychologist,
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School Psychologist...
what do you want to do?
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I'm thinking of
Clinical Psychology
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but most of all, I like to
follow my mother's footsteps
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in her Company
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and take over the Company
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and hopefully work with
people in this community
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better the community around us.
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All right, all right,
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so I could look for you
coming back home, maybe.
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All right, or she
might do a satellite
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in another city, all right.
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Hopefully... yes.
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Hopefully, so, being there and
being a Seventh-day Adventist
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all right, what
have the challenges been
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being on a college campus
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and have all
these things going on
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and more houses
right across the way
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all right,
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so, how do you handle that,
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how do you
adjust to all of that?
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Ah, well, there are...
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they do a lot of stuff
on Saturdays... obviously,
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Saturday is the big
day to do everything
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so there are a lot of
things I do miss out on
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but I just... take it as...
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well, there's an awful lot of
Seventh-day Adventist in Atlanta
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Okay... okay and
they do attend Spelman?
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Yes, Spelman,
Morehouse and Clark...
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so, we have a group chat
where get together sometimes
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we'll go to
church... we'll carpool
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or Uber... pool...
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and do stuff like that
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but, really, I just
have to think to myself
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"This is the day of rest... "
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and just
designate that day to myself
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and remember,
I'm not missing out
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because I'm
resting, so, it feels good.
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It feels good...
doesn't it feel great
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when that Friday
evening comes... approaches
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and, I remember hearing
Pastor Carlton Byrd say,
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he was... they kept 26 hours...
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an hour
before... an hour after...
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and but... it's just great
not to do anything just to rest
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I don't even take my
mail out of the mailbox
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until maybe
Sunday... Eden: Right.
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Because what can I do
with it? Eden: Nothing.
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So, why do I
even want to open it?
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Let's talk about friendships...
relationships... all right.
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What do you think is a
good age for a young lady
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or a young man your
age to start dating?
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Phew...
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Kim: I'd say 30 okay.
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Eden: I would... I'm
not going to disagree,
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I'm not going to...
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if it were me and I
were a parent with children,
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I would tell my
children to not date...
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if they were like,
16... high school age...
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but I do believe genuinely
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that nobody right
now is mature enough,
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I've talked to my
parents about this all the time.
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I just deal... just
seeing how many people
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just don't know
what they're doing
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and are just in relationships
to be in relationships,
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I just don't
think people are ready.
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So, what do you
do when a young...
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you're so pretty... kind...
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Eden: Thank you.
Kim: Welcome, yes you are.
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So what do you do when
a young man approaches you
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you know he's
interested, what do you do?
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If I'm interested,
I'll still talk to him
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and maybe we'll like,
I don't know... date...
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sure, but
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I know I'm really focused
on what I want to get done
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and if you're not trying to...
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if you're not going to
further me in that department
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or help me further that goal
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then, I just don't feel like,
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like, I don't feel
like it's necessary
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for them to be part of my life.
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Right... going
any further with that.
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Because you're interested
in going to Grad School...
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Ph. D. all of
that... so... Eden: Yes.
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Kim: We're talking about
serious focus, all right.
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Now, knowing your
parents and how focused they are
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and I got to tell
you a little story
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I don't know if you know this
story about your dad, all right,
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I say it all the time but
I'm going to let you know.
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He was my
Sabbath School Teacher.
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Wow!
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And I would rush to
church and get in his class
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because his
class was really full
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and I wanted to be
right there like, okay...
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and to have a teacher that knows
the lesson... knows the Bible
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made it fun, all right...
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he gave us candy too, all right,
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but... so, it was just
a real connection for me
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to have a Sabbath School Teacher
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who loved the Lord
and being a young person
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I mean, here he is,
your father was young
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in his 20s... you're
teaching Sabbath School,
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you could be
doing something else
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but he loved us and he
wanted us to stay in the church
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he wanted us to be
a part of the church.
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What is keeping you connected?
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Because we're talking
about refusing to compromise
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what's keeping you
connected... not to just church
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but to your Lord and Savior.
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I think it's
just the genuine fact
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that I do really want to have
a relationship with the Lord,
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I try... or when you get...
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there's a thing
that happens to me...
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sometimes I will get off
chat... like, I'll be in school
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and I'll just be
doing something...
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all of a sudden,
like, I feel tired...
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I'm irritated... I'm mad...
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I'm just like, "Well,
this is because I'm not
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doing my
studying... praying enough"
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and it's just
realizing how my life feels
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without the Lord in it
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makes me realize how much
I need the Lord in my life
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and I feel a
constant spiritual warfare,
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like, all the time just
trying to make decisions,
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is this right... is this wrong?
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But I really just try to
tell myself that this is...
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a relationship and
I... I'm going to mess up
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but this is someone who
forgives me for whatever I do
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so, it's just... I
can relax and love Him.
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Do you believe
that this is the message
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that God has given his people,
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the Seventh-day
Adventist message,
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the Three Angels'
message? Eden: Yes.
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Kim: Yes, and
He's coming to get us,
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do you believe
He's coming again?
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Definitely.
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And the signs that
we see today, you know,
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um, so what about music?
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All right, being a
Seventh-day Adventist,
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we had all kinds of music,
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when I was growing up
we had all kinds of music
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but we didn't have the videos,
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we didn't have all of the
things that were pulling us in
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to that... I like what
you said, spiritual warfare...
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every day we're in
the spiritual warfare
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so, how... what
do you listen to,
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do you listen to just gospel,
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do you listen to
jazz... what do you listen to?
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I like to listen to R
and B like, 2000 R and B.
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Is that a group?
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No, R and B from
like from the early 2000s.
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Okay.
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And maybe like a few
obscure artistes here and there
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but I don't really like
to listen to ruach music...
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it makes me like, cringe.
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Okay, so you don't do Hip Hop?
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No really, I do appreciate
people who are talented in Rap
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but it's just not
something I'm interested in.
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What about the "Spoken Word"
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I like that when they do
that snap, snap, Spoken Word.
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Have you ever seen that live?
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Yes, I like Spoken
Word but it gets kind of...
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repetitive... people talk about
the same things over and over,
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I do really like poetry, though,
but I feel like that's a loss,
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people have been more
drawn toward Spoken Word
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and they lose
like, literary devices
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and all the cool things that
make poetry so nice to read.
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When I was student at Oakwood
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and I remember they
were having a guest speaker
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at Alabama A and M
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and they allowed
us to go and visit,
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they came over to our campus
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and I was a
Co-Op Student there...
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because I was in the
Speech Pathology Program
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and they didn't have
the Program at Oakwood
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so they worked it
out for us to go there
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and their Theology Majors
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or someone could
come over to Oakwood
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well, a woman there by the
name of Nikki Giovanni was there
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you ever heard of her?
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I've heard the name.
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Yes, black poet...
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and she said something,
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"They can take your
money, take your house,
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they can even injure your body
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but once you put it in
your mind it's there to stay. "
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Hmmm...
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So, as you're
gaining the Word of God,
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like you were saying, you
felt... you were irritable
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something was missing, you know,
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and you knew it was
the connection to Christ
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and once you put it there...
and the Bible even says,
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"If you put it there"
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He says, "I'll bring all
things back to your remembrance"
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so when you're
sitting in that class,
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before you take that test, I
would pray before every test.
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I do, definitely, every test...
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it's become a
habit since high school.
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Yes, because
already knows the outcome
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so take me with you
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and then, having
that time in prayer.
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Now, when you
would pray and study
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was your roommate a Christian?
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Yes, she is.
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Okay, so... and you said
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there was a
collective body on the campus
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that you would get together with
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and you would have
other Seventh-day Adventists
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or other Christians, you know,
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I believe that it's
important to have that support,
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you know, how
often did you call home?
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I called my mom
probably too often,
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I call her all the
time, that's my best friend,
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I called my dad
too to check in on them
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I just like to talk
to them, that makes it...
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it's not
necessarily hard to from home
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but that's what it
okay to be away from home
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because I can still talk to them
but I still have my own freedom.
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You have your own
freedom. Eden: Yes.
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Kim: So you're going
to return back to Spelman,
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you're going to
finish out your years there?
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Eden: Yes. Kim:
That's good, that's good
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because you know when you
start moving and switching,
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you lose credits... lot of
time and it's very expensive.
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Yes.
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Okay, so, when you
come home, what is it like?
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I know they're happy to see you,
you're happy to see your sister
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and your sister... if I
can deviate just for a minute,
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just graduated from Wayne
State in Mortuary Science.
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I'm so proud of her.
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I am proud of
her also, you know,
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she looks like a Mortician,
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I saw her on
Sabbath and I said, "Okay"
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and he said, "Well, what
does a Mortician look like?"
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you know, stately, reserved...
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doesn't she
have that? Eden: Yes.
00:14:24.23\00:14:25.93
Kim: And... I mean I
don't have any fear of the dead
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you know,
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and she... she seems like
she's going to do very well
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and she's excited about it.
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Absolutely, I think it is the...
00:14:34.24\00:14:35.84
you say, you don't want to say
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this is the perfect
profession for somebody
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but Eve is made for that...
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she handles it
well, she's just so...
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I just love her, I don't know,
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I just love her, she's
so good in handling the job
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and she has
such a passion for it
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I'm just so glad that Eve
found something that she loves
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because not everybody does that.
00:14:53.12\00:14:54.62
Oh no, that's not
everybody's calling, baby,
00:14:54.66\00:14:57.16
all right, okay,
"You handle that,
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all right, I'll call you,
can you take care of that?"
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So, what's your relationship
like with your sister?
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My sister and I
have grown to be close,
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when we were younger
we weren't that close
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but that's because we...
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we have a bit of an age gap.
00:15:12.14\00:15:13.48
What's the age
gap? Eden: Eight years.
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Kim: Eight years!
Okay, so that was like
00:15:15.34\00:15:17.25
Micha and Erin have 18 years...
00:15:17.28\00:15:19.51
so you all have
eight years, okay.
00:15:19.55\00:15:21.72
But now we're really
close, we laugh too much
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you could ask our parents...
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they'll... don't get us started
laughing because it is just...
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I love her.
00:15:31.23\00:15:32.56
So, there's
something else about you,
00:15:32.59\00:15:35.36
now, I know mom
sings beautifully
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does dad sing?
00:15:38.50\00:15:39.83
Oh oh...
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Dad sings with us,
we have our little...
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we'll go to visit
my grandpa sometimes,
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we'll all sing to
him, listen to some music
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that's all.
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All right, now, dad was
phenomenal... art and...
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he was an artist, now,
did you have that gift also,
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do you draw and... artistic?
00:15:56.75\00:15:58.32
I do, I do like to paint,
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I really like to paint
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my senior year in high
school I was a part of the
00:16:01.22\00:16:04.29
Fine Arts Conservatory
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which is where a few of
the Art students are chosen
00:16:06.93\00:16:10.13
and they are
assigned to complete
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a whole bunch of pieces
according to a subject matter
00:16:14.87\00:16:20.11
that they wanted to do
00:16:20.18\00:16:22.01
and I chose to do "Black Woman"
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because nobody in
the school was doing it
00:16:24.01\00:16:25.65
and even though they really
didn't get a lot of attention
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from the people who
were trying to buy paintings,
00:16:29.25\00:16:31.05
which they did try
to buy the paintings
00:16:31.09\00:16:32.42
but I didn't... I also
didn't want to sell them
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because they were so valuable
00:16:34.42\00:16:35.76
but I feel like it got
a message across to people
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had all these big beautiful
paintings of black women
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all across the school,
00:16:41.43\00:16:42.76
it was just something
they had never seen before
00:16:42.80\00:16:44.83
it was...
00:16:44.87\00:16:46.20
Now, you took a
major risk to do that.
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Eden: Yes. Kim: Definitely.
00:16:47.60\00:16:48.94
Eden: I took a lot of
risks at that school, yes.
00:16:48.97\00:16:51.24
Kim: So, do you sing
at Spelman? Eden: No.
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Kim: Are in the choir...
do they know you can sing?
00:16:54.38\00:16:56.64
Eden: A few people
know that I can sing
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and when they do find out,
00:16:59.15\00:17:00.52
they ask me why I
didn't do the "Glee Club"
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but the Glee Club has
a lot of like, needs...
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they ask for a
lot from the students
00:17:07.52\00:17:08.86
so, I just...
00:17:08.89\00:17:10.53
I'm just trying to focus on
getting my degree right now.
00:17:10.59\00:17:12.63
Okay, so you enjoy
singing with your mom?
00:17:12.66\00:17:15.76
I love singing with her, yes.
00:17:15.80\00:17:17.47
All right, I see something
coming... developing...
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let's talk about health,
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I remember sitting down
with your mother and father
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and truly were my
inspiration years ago
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becoming a vegan now,
00:17:29.68\00:17:31.68
yes, I've been
a vegan 15 months.
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And the Lord is so good, I
didn't do it for weight loss,
00:17:34.35\00:17:37.99
you know, I've
lost a lot of weight
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but I feel
better, I'm healthier...
00:17:40.62\00:17:41.96
I sleep better, a lot of
things have happened in my life
00:17:41.99\00:17:46.59
but I do know I
don't have all that weight
00:17:46.63\00:17:50.07
and your mother was educating us
00:17:50.13\00:17:51.57
and there were
times when she would come
00:17:51.60\00:17:54.10
and do programs...
people wouldn't listen...
00:17:54.14\00:17:56.64
you know, and
it gets frustrating
00:17:56.67\00:17:59.14
so, are you...
where are you with your...
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your diet and your
health, did you work out...
00:18:01.64\00:18:04.65
exercise.. where
are you with that?
00:18:04.68\00:18:06.01
I am vegan...
00:18:06.05\00:18:08.15
Yes! Oh... oh.. Jason Bradley...
give me another one...
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For the most part
00:18:12.82\00:18:16.02
because sometimes at
school it gets complicated
00:18:16.06\00:18:18.79
but I... I'm very
vegan at school actually.
00:18:18.83\00:18:20.86
Okay, what do you eat at school?
00:18:20.90\00:18:22.23
Oh, just whatever I can get
because it's hard sit down there
00:18:22.26\00:18:26.77
but a basic meal, I guess...
a basic like lunch would be
00:18:26.84\00:18:29.90
a sweet potato,
some garbanzo beans...
00:18:29.97\00:18:31.84
I'll ask them to
like, sauté them up
00:18:31.87\00:18:33.68
with some spinach and onions,
00:18:33.71\00:18:35.34
right, I try to
figure out... some rice...
00:18:35.38\00:18:37.31
I like that...
00:18:37.35\00:18:38.71
Another salad...
everybody is like,
00:18:38.75\00:18:40.08
"What are you eating?" You know,
00:18:40.12\00:18:41.45
but it's to me and
it gets the job done.
00:18:41.48\00:18:42.82
Kim: Yeah. Eden: Yes.
00:18:42.85\00:18:44.19
Okay and gets the job done.
00:18:44.22\00:18:45.55
And I definitely do workouts,
Spelman just got a new gym
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they had it
before, I think, I came
00:18:48.26\00:18:50.43
and I'm always in there,
00:18:50.46\00:18:52.06
I just feel like I have to...
00:18:52.09\00:18:53.43
since I had to do all
those sports in high school,
00:18:53.46\00:18:55.83
if I don't work out, it
just doesn't feel right anymore.
00:18:55.86\00:18:58.43
I didn't know that you played
sports... I didn't know that.
00:18:58.47\00:19:02.10
So, did you bowl, roller
skate, archery, swim, track...
00:19:02.14\00:19:05.37
what did you do?
00:19:05.41\00:19:06.74
I was a cheerleader
and I also ran track.
00:19:06.78\00:19:09.28
I can see that, I
can see the track...
00:19:09.31\00:19:11.78
all right, but
I never knew that.
00:19:11.81\00:19:14.22
So, all right, now,
looking at your whole life
00:19:14.25\00:19:18.72
and the direction of your life,
00:19:18.75\00:19:20.26
you know, do you enjoy, now
that you've been in Atlanta,
00:19:20.29\00:19:22.96
I know that you travel...
do you enjoy traveling?
00:19:22.99\00:19:24.53
Yes, I do.
00:19:24.56\00:19:25.89
Have you been abroad?
00:19:25.93\00:19:27.26
When I was smaller, but not...
00:19:27.30\00:19:30.93
you know, just like
a cruise here and there
00:19:30.97\00:19:33.64
to the Bahamas but I
really, really would like
00:19:33.67\00:19:36.30
to go to France
because that's my Minor.
00:19:36.34\00:19:38.34
Oh...
00:19:38.37\00:19:39.71
And when I was in high school
00:19:39.74\00:19:41.14
I had a French
Exchange Student stay with us
00:19:41.18\00:19:43.38
for like a week or two...
00:19:43.41\00:19:45.28
and just... I was so fascinated,
00:19:45.31\00:19:47.58
I've been taking
French since Sixth Grade
00:19:47.62\00:19:49.18
I'm very fascinated by it.
00:19:49.22\00:19:50.69
Really, bonjour...
bonjour en Francais
00:19:50.72\00:19:53.86
Oh look at...
give me something...
00:19:53.89\00:19:56.32
I'm being a little
bit worldwide here,
00:19:56.36\00:19:58.59
you know, a little Spanish,
00:19:58.63\00:19:59.96
a little French, Sign language
00:20:00.00\00:20:01.33
yes, I took French
four years in High School.
00:20:01.36\00:20:03.47
Wow!
00:20:03.50\00:20:04.83
Yes and I was able to go...
to... I didn't get to France
00:20:04.87\00:20:07.10
I got over to Quebec,
00:20:07.14\00:20:08.50
that's where we
went for our Senior Trip
00:20:08.54\00:20:10.81
and then... but I
finally made it over to Europe
00:20:10.84\00:20:13.71
many, many
years later, you know,
00:20:13.74\00:20:16.04
but it was good
to know the language
00:20:16.08\00:20:17.41
and I was able to talk and shop
00:20:17.45\00:20:19.21
and I was able to
translate for my husband
00:20:19.28\00:20:22.52
and he said, "You
think you're grown"
00:20:22.55\00:20:24.22
I said, "I know
I'm grown" all right,
00:20:24.25\00:20:25.85
you children should
have taken French, all right,
00:20:25.89\00:20:28.36
and it's such a
romantic language
00:20:28.39\00:20:30.99
you know,
Spanish is beautiful too
00:20:31.03\00:20:33.46
but there's
something about Francais
00:20:33.50\00:20:35.86
yes, "Formidable"
00:20:35.90\00:20:38.33
for those that don't
know what that means,
00:20:38.37\00:20:39.80
Fantastic...
00:20:39.83\00:20:41.17
Formidable...
00:20:41.20\00:20:42.54
okay... so... being
able to look at your life,
00:20:42.57\00:20:47.58
in the direction...
00:20:47.61\00:20:48.94
is Eden guiding that life
or is God guiding that life?
00:20:48.98\00:20:52.58
Definitely God... because I know
I could not do it by myself.
00:20:52.61\00:20:55.75
Hmmm...
00:20:55.78\00:20:57.15
And you still ask for your
parents input and suggestion...
00:20:57.19\00:21:00.96
you know, now, one
day you called me...
00:21:00.99\00:21:03.66
you were in a
class, taking a class...
00:21:03.69\00:21:06.13
and you had to
interview a Psychologist
00:21:06.19\00:21:08.73
and different
things came out of that
00:21:08.76\00:21:11.00
and it was so eye-opening
00:21:11.03\00:21:13.34
for what you
were doing at school
00:21:13.37\00:21:15.50
and we talked even
before you left for school
00:21:15.54\00:21:19.47
and being able to help, I
think, more than anything,
00:21:19.51\00:21:24.78
I was just honored
that you sought me out
00:21:24.81\00:21:28.45
and I could help
00:21:28.48\00:21:29.82
and we talked
about prayer, remember.
00:21:29.85\00:21:31.19
Yes.
00:21:31.22\00:21:32.62
We talked about
your walk with Christ,
00:21:32.65\00:21:34.19
we prayed together.
00:21:34.22\00:21:35.56
Yes we did.
00:21:35.59\00:21:36.93
And you said you got
an "A" on that paper...
00:21:36.96\00:21:39.06
you got an "A" on the Class?
00:21:39.09\00:21:40.43
I did... on the project...
00:21:40.46\00:21:41.80
Yes, yes, yeah...
00:21:41.83\00:21:43.16
and so, how many credits
did you carry that semester?
00:21:43.20\00:21:46.97
I mean, the whole
year, did you do 12, 14, 16?
00:21:47.04\00:21:51.01
I think the First
Semester, I did 16 Credits.
00:21:51.07\00:21:55.04
Really? Your Freshman year?
00:21:55.08\00:21:56.64
I think they're
counted differently at Spelman.
00:21:56.68\00:21:58.48
Oh Really? Are you
on a Quarter System
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or it's Semester?
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I'm... oh, Semester System
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but I'm not...
but, because our Credits
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compared to
other people I think,
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are like, counted
differently. Kim: Oh really?
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Eden: But, yeah, I
took 16 in my First Semester
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and I think 17 this Semester,
this Semester... I just passed.
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Kim: Okay, all right. Eden: Yes.
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Kim: Are you in Summer School
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or you're just
taking it easy this summer?
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Eden: I'm not taking it
easy, I'm working for my mother.
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Kim: Okay, you're
not taking it easy.
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Right... but no classes.
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Okay, great, so church...
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how do you stay connected
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when you're not
compromised with church?
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Because sometimes...
because our pastors change,
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our officers change...
the genre of music changes
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our young people and
it's not just our church
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seems like they're disappearing,
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what do you think is happening
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in the Seventh-day Adventist
Church with our young people?
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I think it could be, perhaps...
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I feel like it's a lot of
things I mean, number 1 is
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like a sign of
the times, obviously,
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but also, just the way
the generations are changing
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and the disconnect between
the youth and the young people
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and also,
sometimes how conservative
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feeling the church
can... feel.. I guess
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and a lot of people
are turned off to that
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and sometimes
people want to hear,
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like, they want
to hear loud music
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and want to be able
to just feel more free
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in the church service
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yeah, feel the
spirit... and sometimes
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I mean, even I
felt it in some churches
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where you just feel like,
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these people are
trying to hold down
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the good feeling... that
you know you should just feel it
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because the Lord is good
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so, you should jump
and scream about it.
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Yes, one time we were
having church downstairs
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in City temple because
our Sanctuary had fallen in
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and they were
doing all the repairs
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so we were having
church service downstairs
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because we went
to another church
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but I think we were
transitioning back in
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but anyway,
there was this pastor,
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he was preaching
and the music was high
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and I could not keep
still... I threw off my shoes
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I think they came off... I
don't know what happened to them
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and I... and I
keep over my shoes...
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and I ran around that church...
folk thought I had lost my mind
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and Brother Nolan got a
little scared, all right...
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and I said to myself,
00:24:23.46\00:24:25.06
"If the world can
kick their shoes off,
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throw off everything
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and run around for
football, basketball,
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a secular concert,
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why can't we praise God?"
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Because the Bible says,
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"He inhabits
those that praise Him. "
00:24:38.14\00:24:39.67
Yeah.
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And I just don't believe
heaven is going to be where...
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Right, I
don't... I don't either...
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You don't say
something, you don't say, "Amen"
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you don't shout...
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He did say,
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"The praises go up...
the blessings come down. "
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He loves the
praises, He loves...
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I see God... if I could
just picture in my own mind
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oh, that's
why... ego... Godly...
00:24:59.73\00:25:03.06
of divinity...
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He says, "Thou shalt not have
any other God's before me. "
00:25:04.47\00:25:07.27
He will not share
His glory so, I can see,
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"That's right, praise me I
woke you up this morning. "
00:25:10.61\00:25:13.64
Yes.
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"Started you on your way
I... I am God of Israel...
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I'm the same God yesterday,
today and tomorrow... "
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why not praise?
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And I grew up in a church
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where your father was
my Sabbath School Teacher
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that... even
though it was conservative
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but we were able to
praise Him, you know,
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we were able to...
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well, I remember
when we first clapped,
00:25:36.06\00:25:37.40
everybody was like...
"Oooh, they're clapping"
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and then we started, "Amen"
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and then we started... you know,
00:25:42.07\00:25:43.64
because I remember I
went to church with my father
00:25:43.67\00:25:46.24
and he was not a
Seventh-day Adventist
00:25:46.27\00:25:48.11
and I came back to my church
so, we were singing a hymn
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and I turned to my mother,
00:25:52.61\00:25:53.95
"Oh, why can't we
clap and shout and pray?"
00:25:53.98\00:25:56.45
My mama popped me...
00:25:56.48\00:25:57.82
"Girl, if you don't be quiet,
00:25:57.85\00:26:00.26
see, that's why I don't let you
go to church with your father,
00:26:00.29\00:26:02.79
okay. "
00:26:02.82\00:26:04.16
But it gave me a
different perspective
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of praising my Lord and Savior
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and so, when I'm home,
00:26:08.26\00:26:09.60
Jehovah-jireh...
Jehovah-nissi... Jehovah-shalom,
00:26:09.63\00:26:13.44
He is my God... and I want
to... I can't keep it to myself,
00:26:13.47\00:26:17.57
you know,
00:26:17.61\00:26:18.94
and I have even seen
you cry in church, Eden,
00:26:18.97\00:26:21.58
you know, I've
seen you doing Communion
00:26:21.61\00:26:25.05
and it just touched my soul
00:26:25.08\00:26:26.98
because to see a young
person have that connection...
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how do we pull back layers,
as a future Psychologist...
00:26:30.79\00:26:34.46
how do you see that we
need to address the layers
00:26:34.49\00:26:38.79
in families today...
00:26:38.83\00:26:40.30
people don't want to
talk about their problems.
00:26:40.33\00:26:42.60
I know, I...
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I don't necessarily know
how we can attack that problem
00:26:44.93\00:26:48.50
because I'm
dealing with it myself,
00:26:48.54\00:26:50.44
I just know that
there are so many things
00:26:50.47\00:26:52.64
that can affect people to
feel so many different ways
00:26:52.67\00:26:57.18
and it's hard to pinpoint them
00:26:57.21\00:26:59.25
but something my
mom always tells me is,
00:26:59.28\00:27:01.45
"You have to talk
about it to process it"
00:27:01.48\00:27:03.62
and I think that's what
we have to tell these people
00:27:03.65\00:27:05.75
and there's a lot of
times when people are...
00:27:05.79\00:27:07.66
don't even want to hear
it but you have to process it
00:27:07.69\00:27:12.56
so you have to
talk about it out loud,
00:27:12.59\00:27:14.06
you can't be uncomfortable...
00:27:14.10\00:27:15.43
you have to be comfortable
with being uncomfortable.
00:27:15.46\00:27:17.37
Yes, oh, I like
that, say that again.
00:27:17.40\00:27:19.63
We have to be comfortable
with being uncomfortable, yes.
00:27:19.67\00:27:23.94
I like that,
that's a book title.
00:27:24.01\00:27:25.34
Eden: Yes. Kim: I like that.
00:27:25.37\00:27:26.71
Eden: Yeah, that's what
I used to tell everybody
00:27:26.74\00:27:28.14
in my old school,
00:27:28.18\00:27:29.51
and I had to always
help those race talks
00:27:29.54\00:27:31.45
always have to be uncomfortable
00:27:31.48\00:27:32.81
talks almost... to talk about
00:27:32.85\00:27:34.22
but you have to say it out loud
00:27:34.25\00:27:35.58
if you want to start
going towards resolution.
00:27:35.62\00:27:38.69
So, I think that's
one of the biggest things
00:27:38.72\00:27:41.29
is just talking about
it... processing it...
00:27:41.32\00:27:44.13
and let's see where
we can go from there
00:27:44.16\00:27:46.90
once everybody's
emotions are out on the table.
00:27:46.93\00:27:49.03
Put it out on the table...
we love that domino effect
00:27:49.06\00:27:52.37
everything is
going to fall down anyway
00:27:52.40\00:27:54.34
and my mom used to say,
"If God knows... who cares
00:27:54.37\00:27:56.94
just... just put it out there. "
00:27:56.97\00:27:59.04
Well, Eden Harrison, I love you.
00:27:59.07\00:28:01.11
Eden: I love you.
00:28:01.14\00:28:02.48
Kim: I'm so proud,
thank you sweetie pie
00:28:02.51\00:28:03.85
and I want you to
continue to live to be well,
00:28:03.88\00:28:06.21
I look forward to
seeing you in the Kingdom.
00:28:06.25\00:28:08.68
Kim: And I want
you to look for me.
00:28:08.72\00:28:10.69
God bless you and to you...
00:28:10.72\00:28:12.92
we are going to
refuse to compromise...
00:28:12.95\00:28:15.32
we will not compromise
00:28:15.36\00:28:16.83
because we are about
the Kingdom of Heaven.
00:28:16.86\00:28:19.56
I'm Dr. Kim and
I want to thank you
00:28:19.59\00:28:22.60
for being on Live to be Well.
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God bless.
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