Hi, I'm Dr. Kim and welcome to "Live to Be Well" 00:00:35.96\00:00:40.30 This morning we're going to take about a "made-up mind." 00:00:40.34\00:00:43.97 Have you ever made a decision and you wavered back and forth 00:00:44.01\00:00:47.68 with that decision? 00:00:47.71\00:00:49.04 And how can we here on "Live to Be Well" 00:00:49.08\00:00:51.38 look at making a decision and standing by it. 00:00:51.41\00:00:55.35 Well today, my special guest is Mrs. Jeanette Lane. 00:00:55.38\00:00:58.52 Welcome Jeanette, how are you? 00:00:58.55\00:01:00.02 I'm good Dr. Kim, thanks for having me. 00:01:00.06\00:01:01.99 You are very, very welcome and thank you for coming. 00:01:02.02\00:01:04.79 Let's talk about a "made-up mind." 00:01:04.83\00:01:06.56 Let's talk about your early years. 00:01:06.59\00:01:08.40 Are you from Detroit, Michigan? 00:01:08.43\00:01:09.80 Yes, born and raised in Detroit. 00:01:09.83\00:01:11.37 Okay, are you a product of a nuclear family? Yes 00:01:11.40\00:01:14.47 Meaning that... having a mother and father. 00:01:14.50\00:01:17.64 Other siblings? Only child. 00:01:17.67\00:01:19.34 Only child... are you spoiled? 00:01:19.37\00:01:20.88 Of course not. You ARE spoiled. 00:01:20.91\00:01:22.61 Alright, I've known you for some years, alright. 00:01:22.64\00:01:24.75 Well let's talk about your father... 00:01:24.78\00:01:27.78 He left the home at what age? Two. 00:01:27.82\00:01:30.02 Two, alright and did you have a relationship with your father? 00:01:30.05\00:01:33.62 Not until I was 11. Eleven. 00:01:33.66\00:01:35.62 Do you know why that was? 00:01:35.66\00:01:37.23 He left to be with another woman and her family. 00:01:37.26\00:01:40.86 Is that right? How did that impact you? 00:01:40.90\00:01:43.53 I feel like it impacted me greatly 00:01:43.57\00:01:46.13 to this day, it still does. 00:01:46.17\00:01:47.70 Really, are you angry about that? 00:01:47.74\00:01:49.97 Not so much angry, I just wish I could have 00:01:50.01\00:01:53.17 had the father present growing up and the type of 00:01:53.21\00:01:57.28 relationship that I would have wanted to have had back then 00:01:57.31\00:02:00.92 and still now. And still now. 00:02:00.95\00:02:02.55 Do you think it's important for fathers and daughters 00:02:02.58\00:02:05.55 to have relationships? Definitely! 00:02:05.59\00:02:08.06 I feel that that's the blueprint on what you should look for 00:02:08.09\00:02:11.03 moving forward. I like that. 00:02:11.06\00:02:13.40 ... in choosing a mate. That's right, that's right. 00:02:13.43\00:02:15.66 So that being said, where did your life go, 00:02:15.70\00:02:19.63 on to college? What happened? 00:02:19.67\00:02:21.77 I went on to college, I went to Adrian College. 00:02:21.80\00:02:26.04 I studied human resource management. 00:02:26.07\00:02:29.14 I worked for nonprofits, I was in banking, 00:02:29.18\00:02:34.12 real estate industry and up until recently, I wanted to 00:02:34.15\00:02:39.62 work for myself, so I started my own businesses. 00:02:39.65\00:02:42.29 I do have a part-time job that allowed me to work from home, 00:02:42.32\00:02:45.93 but I got to be my own boss. 00:02:45.96\00:02:48.70 Alright, let's go back a minute... 00:02:48.73\00:02:50.47 During the time after collage, 00:02:50.50\00:02:52.53 or during high school and college, 00:02:53.60\00:02:55.07 did you have relationships? I did. 00:02:55.10\00:02:56.50 I was dating my high school sweetheart, Brandon, 00:02:56.54\00:03:01.14 he went to the marines, I went to college. 00:03:01.18\00:03:03.51 The distance was a lot for the both of us, 00:03:03.55\00:03:06.45 so we ended our relationship around 00:03:06.48\00:03:09.42 my sophomore year of college. 00:03:09.45\00:03:10.89 Were you pretty steadfast in your decision-making 00:03:10.92\00:03:14.19 about college, completing college - you didn't 00:03:14.22\00:03:17.16 waiver in that decision? 00:03:17.19\00:03:18.53 There were trials that hindered me from continuing 00:03:18.56\00:03:24.30 like I wanted to, so I did have to take breaks in-between 00:03:24.33\00:03:27.10 on my educational studies. 00:03:27.14\00:03:28.47 Where do you want to go with your educational studies? 00:03:28.50\00:03:30.74 Do you want to go on for graduate school? 00:03:30.77\00:03:32.67 I am considering grad school, it is a consideration. 00:03:32.71\00:03:36.34 Right now, the degrees that I have, they're good to have 00:03:36.38\00:03:43.49 as a backup, but I'm really focused right now on 00:03:43.52\00:03:46.09 doing my own business. Okay. 00:03:46.12\00:03:48.16 So now, he went off to the military, you went 00:03:48.19\00:03:51.13 on to college and what happened after that? 00:03:51.16\00:03:54.23 I started dating someone else, we were together for 3-4 years. 00:03:54.26\00:03:59.97 Our lives were just in two different places 00:04:00.00\00:04:03.17 what we wanted out of life, so we ended that relationship. 00:04:03.20\00:04:07.14 Okay, now were you sexually active with these men? Yes. 00:04:07.18\00:04:12.55 Were you a Christian? Yes. Okay. 00:04:12.58\00:04:14.75 How did that impact your balance with God knowing that I 00:04:14.78\00:04:19.39 should live one way, but I'm living another way. 00:04:19.42\00:04:22.36 You know, did you give it any thought, did it bother you? 00:04:22.39\00:04:24.79 Back then, I really didn't give it much thought. 00:04:24.83\00:04:27.43 It was - I'm doing what I want to do. 00:04:27.46\00:04:29.80 You're just doing Jeanette. 00:04:29.83\00:04:31.17 Everyone else does it, so... 00:04:31.20\00:04:33.50 Okay, let's follow the trend, everyone else is doing it, 00:04:33.54\00:04:36.30 this is the norm. Alright. 00:04:36.34\00:04:38.27 So, again, were you impacted by your friends, your peers, 00:04:38.31\00:04:41.98 or it was just something you said, "I'm gonna do." 00:04:42.04\00:04:44.15 It wasn't an impact from friends or anyone else, it was just 00:04:44.18\00:04:48.62 me making up my mind, this is what I want to do. 00:04:48.65\00:04:50.45 You know, since meeting you and knowing you because, 00:04:50.49\00:04:53.92 again, you came to me - we're going to get to that 00:04:53.96\00:04:56.59 a little bit later, you were looking for a therapist. Yes. 00:04:56.62\00:05:00.00 And, I was blessed by the grace of God to become your therapist, 00:05:00.03\00:05:03.97 and it's just been a wonderful journey... 00:05:04.00\00:05:07.27 So looking at your decisions to become sexually active, 00:05:07.30\00:05:11.57 do you feel that was drawn from your lack of relationship 00:05:11.61\00:05:15.91 with your father? 00:05:15.94\00:05:17.38 Of course, oh yes, so kinda looking for love and acceptance 00:05:17.41\00:05:22.28 in the wrong places. 00:05:22.32\00:05:23.65 Do you think our young girls today that is still 00:05:23.69\00:05:25.89 an issue today in our society? Definitely. 00:05:25.92\00:05:28.96 We see teenage pregnancy, we see abuse. 00:05:28.99\00:05:32.23 We are seeing young girls being human trafficking, 00:05:32.26\00:05:36.43 and because they are out looking for love in all the 00:05:36.46\00:05:38.73 wrong places and they get caught up in these different 00:05:38.77\00:05:42.37 avenues. 00:05:42.40\00:05:43.74 Alright so, this gentleman that you were dating, 00:05:43.77\00:05:46.37 did it become long-term? It did. 00:05:46.41\00:05:50.88 So what happened, alright I want all the good news, 00:05:50.91\00:05:54.05 you know, what happened? 00:05:54.08\00:05:55.42 The current, the current? 00:05:55.45\00:05:56.79 Alright yes, this gentleman that you were dating 00:05:56.82\00:05:59.02 after the gentleman went to the military, 00:05:59.05\00:06:01.29 was this the gentleman that you ended up being married to? 00:06:01.32\00:06:03.96 No, it was not. Okay. 00:06:03.99\00:06:05.33 So after that, I just dated occasionally different people, 00:06:05.36\00:06:09.96 but until my current husband now, 00:06:10.00\00:06:13.20 I didn't date anyone really seriously. 00:06:13.23\00:06:15.90 Okay now, Demetrius, you met him where? 00:06:15.94\00:06:18.57 We actually met online. 00:06:18.61\00:06:20.51 You met... oh no. Yes. Really. Yes. 00:06:20.54\00:06:23.85 So why did you choose social media to reach out 00:06:23.88\00:06:26.85 to date, why? 00:06:26.88\00:06:29.15 Well back then, it was starting to become like a real trend... 00:06:31.39\00:06:34.92 Like, well let's just try it out - see what happens. 00:06:34.96\00:06:37.99 You weren't afraid, you know, getting, you know... 00:06:38.03\00:06:40.53 No. Not at all? No. 00:06:40.56\00:06:42.03 That's one thing about you, Jeanette, I know you 00:06:42.06\00:06:43.63 just no fear here, okay, even when I first met you. 00:06:43.67\00:06:46.87 So what happened? 00:06:46.90\00:06:48.24 Actually it was probably like 2 years prior... 00:06:49.17\00:06:52.71 we had connected on... it was "Black Planet" back then, 00:06:52.74\00:06:56.18 it's not anymore. 00:06:56.21\00:06:58.35 We talked briefly and, it was just that we talked 00:06:58.38\00:07:02.85 and that ended and two years later, we connected again, 00:07:02.88\00:07:07.32 and connected, we talked, had a long 00:07:07.36\00:07:09.22 conversation. How did you reconnect? 00:07:09.26\00:07:11.09 Same. On social media? Yeah. 00:07:11.13\00:07:13.33 Same thing. Okay, alright. 00:07:13.36\00:07:14.70 And we exchanged numbers, we had a conversation, 00:07:14.73\00:07:17.47 so we set up a time to meet. 00:07:17.50\00:07:18.83 So our first meeting, we actually 00:07:18.87\00:07:20.44 went to the gym. You went to the gym? 00:07:20.50\00:07:22.07 So I was kind of faking it, I was working out off and on. 00:07:22.10\00:07:24.57 I'm like, "Hey," you know, 00:07:24.61\00:07:26.07 I'm gonna show him I'm going to the gym. 00:07:26.11\00:07:27.54 That's a safe place, you have people around you. 00:07:27.58\00:07:30.18 That was a good idea! 00:07:30.21\00:07:32.21 That was our first meeting/date, we worked out. 00:07:32.25\00:07:35.42 And you set that up? I set that up. 00:07:35.45\00:07:36.99 I knew you did, alright, and then what happened? 00:07:37.02\00:07:39.59 We continued to talk, we started seeing each other 00:07:39.62\00:07:43.29 more and more, spending time together going out on dates, 00:07:43.32\00:07:45.69 and it just evolved into something more. 00:07:45.73\00:07:49.70 Alright, now you became sexually active with your 00:07:49.73\00:07:52.40 husband before marriage. Yes. 00:07:52.43\00:07:54.00 But something happened - can you share with us what happened? 00:07:54.60\00:07:57.97 Well, I want to say two years into us being together, 00:07:58.01\00:08:03.85 we found out I was pregnant and we had a miscarriage. 00:08:03.88\00:08:07.95 How did that impact you? 00:08:07.98\00:08:09.85 Greatly, that was my first time ever being pregnant. 00:08:09.88\00:08:12.55 How old were you? I was 27. 00:08:12.59\00:08:17.63 So you weren't 16-17, this is 27 years old, 00:08:17.66\00:08:21.10 finished with college, making some decisions here, alright. 00:08:21.13\00:08:25.60 I'm not saying that... I not here to judge you, 00:08:25.63\00:08:28.70 but was that a good decision? No. 00:08:28.74\00:08:30.81 It was not and it was outside the obedience of God. Um hm. 00:08:30.84\00:08:35.38 So, go on... 00:08:35.41\00:08:37.11 So fast forward 2014, I found out I was pregnant again. 00:08:37.15\00:08:43.49 Still single... Yes, we were living together. 00:08:43.52\00:08:47.16 Still single... But still single. 00:08:47.19\00:08:48.79 So now you're single, you're having sex, 00:08:48.82\00:08:51.19 now you're cohabitating. Yes. 00:08:51.23\00:08:53.53 Oh, you just doing your thing! Um hm. 00:08:53.56\00:08:55.30 Alright just outright living in sin 00:08:55.33\00:08:57.43 before God. Um hm. 00:08:57.47\00:08:59.00 Were you even thinking about God and His 00:08:59.03\00:09:01.74 feelings toward your decisions? 00:09:01.77\00:09:04.24 In the back of my mind, yes. 00:09:04.27\00:09:06.57 Wait, wait, wait... oh, look at me, I'm throwing a fit 00:09:06.61\00:09:08.84 WAY back here, don't mind okay? Yes. 00:09:08.88\00:09:11.35 Alright, so what happened? 00:09:11.38\00:09:13.48 Around 20 weeks, we found out that our daughter 00:09:13.52\00:09:17.72 was diagnosed with a heart condition... 00:09:17.75\00:09:20.82 So even going through the pregnancy, we knew that 00:09:20.86\00:09:23.06 after her birth, she was going to have to have heart surgery. 00:09:23.09\00:09:27.13 So upon her being delivered, she was full-term, 00:09:27.16\00:09:32.20 she was born on November 5, 2014 and she had to have heart 00:09:32.23\00:09:38.17 surgery on November 14th and she did not 00:09:38.21\00:09:41.74 survive her surgery, so she passed away. 00:09:41.78\00:09:45.28 She passed away how many days later? Eight days later. 00:09:45.31\00:09:47.85 I am so sorry. 00:09:47.88\00:09:49.85 So, at that time, did you think God was punishing you 00:09:49.88\00:09:53.86 or was it a wakeup call to say, "How am I living my life," or 00:09:53.89\00:09:57.43 was it strictly, "I'm mourning my daughter right now." 00:09:57.46\00:10:00.60 At that time, I was just numb and just in shock, 00:10:01.36\00:10:04.57 like is this surreal, like I carried this baby, 00:10:04.60\00:10:07.34 and she's not here - so it was more so, 00:10:07.37\00:10:10.37 at that time just shock. 00:10:10.41\00:10:12.14 It's still very emotional for you and now... 00:10:12.17\00:10:14.94 She was a beautiful baby, I had an opportunity 00:10:14.98\00:10:17.91 to come to the service, standby you, stand with you. 00:10:17.95\00:10:21.55 I remember when I got the call and I was still your 00:10:21.58\00:10:24.99 therapist all the way through this. 00:10:25.02\00:10:27.36 I never abandoned you because I have learned through my 00:10:27.39\00:10:31.66 36 years of being in practice, I am not here to stand in 00:10:31.69\00:10:35.83 judgment of anyone, I'm here to listen, 00:10:35.86\00:10:37.90 to provide support and to help make better choices with you, 00:10:37.93\00:10:43.81 and through the power of prayer and the obedience of 00:10:43.84\00:10:46.34 the Holy Word. 00:10:46.37\00:10:47.71 Does a day go by you don't think about Jordan? 00:10:49.11\00:10:52.05 Not a day. 00:10:52.08\00:10:53.42 You know, I love that name "Jordan Parker." 00:10:53.45\00:10:56.42 Getting through that with Demetrius, 00:10:56.45\00:10:59.62 how did you handle everything with him? 00:10:59.65\00:11:02.22 You know, did you all pull apart, 00:11:02.26\00:11:04.39 did you draw closer together? What happened? 00:11:04.43\00:11:06.16 Actually, the situation brought us closer together, very close. 00:11:06.19\00:11:09.63 Okay. Very close. 00:11:09.66\00:11:11.07 Now you have a daughter through Demetrius 00:11:11.10\00:11:14.57 from a previous relationship he has had. 00:11:14.60\00:11:16.81 Correct. And a son. Yes. 00:11:16.84\00:11:18.74 You recently found out that he had a son. Um hm 00:11:18.77\00:11:21.48 So your family is just expanding and what's so 00:11:21.51\00:11:24.65 amazing, after getting married, you all invited this child 00:11:24.68\00:11:29.55 into your home and so now you have his daughter which is 00:11:29.58\00:11:33.52 your child and his son which is your son and now two 00:11:33.56\00:11:38.89 became four instantly overnight. Yes. 00:11:38.93\00:11:41.60 So how soon did you and your husband get married? 00:11:41.63\00:11:46.80 So Jordan passed away November 2014, we got married 00:11:47.70\00:11:53.54 May 29, 2016. 00:11:54.91\00:11:57.21 Now, you know, let's talk about that a little bit because 00:11:57.25\00:11:59.38 I know Dr. Kim was on you... Yes. 00:11:59.41\00:12:02.32 Oh, I was on you and I said to you, "God is not pleased," 00:12:02.35\00:12:07.02 and there were excuses and I did not hear a "made-up mind," 00:12:07.06\00:12:10.76 I did not hear it and every time I called, 00:12:10.79\00:12:12.76 we did our sessions, I kept asking... 00:12:12.79\00:12:15.23 "When are you going to get married?" 00:12:15.26\00:12:16.93 And you were planning this big wedding and wanted to do 00:12:16.97\00:12:20.17 all these things and I kept saying... 00:12:20.20\00:12:21.74 "When are you going to make things right with God?" 00:12:21.77\00:12:24.07 ... Because I was concerned, like the Lord is, 00:12:24.11\00:12:26.91 about our salvation. 00:12:26.94\00:12:28.51 So bottom line is "salvation." 00:12:28.54\00:12:30.95 And so what did you end up doing? 00:12:30.98\00:12:32.75 We ended up just getting married... 00:12:32.78\00:12:35.98 And no pressure from me, of course. 00:12:36.02\00:12:37.59 Uh no, not at all. Laughter... 00:12:37.62\00:12:39.85 But we were planning a big wedding and, you know, 00:12:39.89\00:12:42.69 we want this wedding, we want this reception, 00:12:42.72\00:12:44.19 we want to do a destination wedding, and just looking 00:12:44.23\00:12:47.50 at others who were getting married 00:12:47.53\00:12:49.40 around us and the amount of time and as well as money 00:12:49.43\00:12:53.23 they were spending for the wedding - to put on basically 00:12:53.27\00:12:56.40 a party for someone else, we decided to... 00:12:56.44\00:13:00.64 Let's just make this about us and let's just do it. 00:13:00.68\00:13:03.24 So we went to get our marriage license. 00:13:03.28\00:13:05.98 Our officient actually had to go out of town 00:13:06.01\00:13:09.28 the day we were originally supposed to get married, 00:13:09.32\00:13:10.92 so we're like - "What are we gonna do, what are we gonna do?" 00:13:10.95\00:13:13.86 And, my best friend's aunt and uncle had come in to town, 00:13:13.89\00:13:16.73 and they are both ministers. Yes 00:13:16.79\00:13:19.63 So I thought it would be nice if they could do it, so it would be 00:13:19.66\00:13:23.57 special - so we ended up on Sunday morning... Yes 00:13:23.60\00:13:27.44 I woke Demetrius up, I'm like, "Let's get 00:13:27.47\00:13:30.07 dressed" and we went to their hotel room in Novi, 00:13:30.11\00:13:33.11 and we got married in a hotel room. 00:13:33.14\00:13:34.91 My Lord, praise the Lord! And he went to work. 00:13:34.94\00:13:36.85 And he went to work... And he went to work. 00:13:36.88\00:13:38.48 Well your husband went right to work after you all got married. 00:13:38.51\00:13:41.02 Yes! Isn't that too cute! 00:13:41.05\00:13:42.98 So all the way up to the wedding, you were still 00:13:43.02\00:13:45.95 cohabitating. Yes 00:13:45.99\00:13:47.92 Were you in separate bedrooms, 00:13:47.96\00:13:50.19 were you living in sin, just living in sin. 00:13:50.23\00:13:53.23 We were abstinent, so we made the decision 00:13:53.26\00:13:55.76 after Jordan that until we got married, we were going 00:13:55.80\00:13:58.87 to abstain from having sex. Alright. 00:13:58.90\00:14:01.40 But again, the Bible says, "Shun the very 00:14:01.44\00:14:03.94 appearance of evil." 00:14:03.97\00:14:05.31 You know, the work that I do is not easy, I tell you... 00:14:05.34\00:14:08.14 because when you stand on the word of God, 00:14:08.18\00:14:10.88 and when people walk through my door, 00:14:10.91\00:14:12.91 they know that I stand for what is Christian, 00:14:12.95\00:14:16.79 Christ-like behavior. Um hm. 00:14:16.82\00:14:18.52 And you know, I tried it my way, I did it my way, 00:14:18.55\00:14:21.22 are you ready to do God's way? 00:14:21.26\00:14:22.86 Because when we step outside of God's will, 00:14:22.89\00:14:25.49 there are consequences. 00:14:25.53\00:14:26.86 God loves you, He loves me, 00:14:26.90\00:14:29.20 but He does not love our sin and I'm a sinner saved by grace. 00:14:29.23\00:14:32.23 I am not perfect, but every day I try 00:14:33.30\00:14:36.87 to live my life according to God's will, 00:14:36.91\00:14:39.57 and I try to implement that in the work that I do. 00:14:39.61\00:14:44.85 So, let's go on... How has marriage life been 00:14:44.88\00:14:48.45 now with two children? Different. 00:14:48.48\00:14:51.35 A ready-made family, how is it different? 00:14:51.39\00:14:53.76 It requires a lot of patience, especially with the little one. 00:14:53.79\00:14:59.49 He's so adorable. He is... 00:15:00.43\00:15:02.50 He's a handful though. Okay. 00:15:02.53\00:15:04.37 Which is a lot of adjustment, so it's a new 00:15:04.40\00:15:07.67 thing being a mom. 00:15:07.70\00:15:10.04 Well, what are their names? 00:15:10.07\00:15:11.47 Jake and Donisha, Jake is 5 and Donisha 00:15:11.51\00:15:15.44 she will be 13 next week. Really? Yes. 00:15:15.48\00:15:18.11 Alright, so they get along very well. 00:15:18.15\00:15:20.25 How does she feel about being an only child, 00:15:20.28\00:15:22.18 then finding out daddy has a little boy. 00:15:22.22\00:15:25.29 She was excited! 00:15:25.32\00:15:27.32 She was excited to have another sibling from her dad. 00:15:27.36\00:15:30.89 I know she was really upset about Jordan. 00:15:30.93\00:15:33.46 At first she was like, "I don't want a sister, 00:15:33.50\00:15:35.83 I wanna be an only child" and as the time got closer 00:15:35.86\00:15:40.10 to Jordan coming, she was super excited and she was 00:15:40.14\00:15:42.37 devastated after her sister passed... 00:15:42.40\00:15:43.97 So finding out that she had a new sibling, she was excited. 00:15:44.01\00:15:49.51 Every time I come by and visit with you, 00:15:49.54\00:15:52.25 she's so helpful and what are their names? Donisha and Jake. 00:15:52.28\00:15:56.38 And Jake and he is just busy and I've seen you 00:15:57.32\00:16:01.46 be MOM, going from being single to being married, 00:16:01.49\00:16:04.99 to being MOM and you have that authoritative look. 00:16:05.03\00:16:08.93 You have that "old school look," you know, you don't need 00:16:08.96\00:16:11.10 to get a belt... like, really? Don't let me have 00:16:11.13\00:16:13.60 to say this twice. Exactly! And I love that. 00:16:13.64\00:16:16.07 Were you raised like that by your mom? 00:16:16.10\00:16:18.01 My mom and my grandmother, they didn't play. 00:16:18.04\00:16:19.77 They didn't play. They didn't play. 00:16:19.81\00:16:21.14 Now, your grandmother passed away while we were doing 00:16:21.18\00:16:23.31 our counseling in the early stages, how old was she? 00:16:23.35\00:16:26.45 My father's mother was 93. Ninety-three WOW! 00:16:26.48\00:16:32.45 Isn't that amazing, she had a good, long life. 00:16:32.49\00:16:36.49 So let's talk about your foundation... 00:16:36.52\00:16:40.23 Okay, let's talk about everything that going on now. 00:16:40.26\00:16:43.97 You started the "Jordan Parker Foundation." Yes 00:16:44.00\00:16:47.27 Let's talk about - what is that? 00:16:47.30\00:16:48.70 So the "Jordan Parker Foundation" was started 00:16:48.74\00:16:51.37 to empower other people to assist other people, 00:16:51.41\00:16:54.34 so I want to touch especially people who have had 00:16:54.38\00:16:56.68 a congenital heart defect, assist with programming 00:16:56.71\00:17:00.22 with those people, parents as well as siblings who have lost 00:17:00.25\00:17:04.45 a child and a brother or a sister - to kind of give like 00:17:04.49\00:17:08.09 grief counseling, support, because it's a 00:17:08.12\00:17:10.83 really traumatizing experience to lose a child definitely. 00:17:10.86\00:17:14.50 I know you were in counseling with me, 00:17:14.53\00:17:16.03 but did you attend programs at the hospital 00:17:16.06\00:17:20.04 for this particular loss? No, I didn't. 00:17:20.07\00:17:23.20 Okay, was there any particular reason why? 00:17:23.24\00:17:25.54 Just not there, in some instances I'm still not there. 00:17:25.57\00:17:30.75 I still have not gone to pick up Jordan's death certificate. 00:17:30.78\00:17:34.25 Is that right? I'm just not there. 00:17:34.28\00:17:37.82 I know I've gotten calls since my husband's passing 00:17:37.85\00:17:40.89 to come to groups and I am in counseling and I'm learning 00:17:40.92\00:17:46.19 a lot how to deal with my own grief and healing. 00:17:46.23\00:17:50.40 And I don't look at it as grief, I'm not grieving 00:17:50.43\00:17:53.50 my husband's passing, I am learning how to adjust 00:17:53.54\00:17:59.41 without him and allowing myself to re-invent myself 00:17:59.44\00:18:04.95 as a single woman, but I am still not forgetting about 00:18:04.98\00:18:10.95 the life I shared with him, but trying to make a 00:18:10.99\00:18:14.89 new life step-by-step, day-by-day, so I do understand. 00:18:14.92\00:18:20.33 So I want to talk a little bit about what you've done for me. 00:18:20.36\00:18:24.17 I think it's so important when I meet people, 00:18:24.20\00:18:27.40 it's not give and take or take and take, 00:18:27.44\00:18:30.87 but it's a give and give. 00:18:30.91\00:18:33.01 So Jeanette, you started an online entity and this inspired 00:18:33.04\00:18:38.01 me to begin the "Arthur E. Nolan Foundation," 00:18:38.05\00:18:43.69 and you came by my home and you asked, 00:18:43.72\00:18:46.12 "What are you going to do with all these things?" 00:18:46.15\00:18:47.89 And I was just going to call someone to come get them, 00:18:47.92\00:18:50.49 and you said, "Oh no, we could do this and now we have a 00:18:50.53\00:18:54.80 foundation to help send students to school in the field 00:18:54.83\00:18:58.63 of social work." 00:18:58.67\00:19:00.00 So it's a give-give you really are an inspiration to me, 00:19:00.04\00:19:04.24 and now you are the director of my online program, 00:19:04.27\00:19:08.68 and then my online store and I thank God for that. 00:19:08.71\00:19:11.31 Let's talk about Matthew 6:33... 00:19:11.35\00:19:14.85 "Seek ye first the kingdom of God 00:19:14.88\00:19:17.12 and all things shall be added." 00:19:17.15\00:19:18.85 What did that Scripture say to you? 00:19:18.89\00:19:20.86 Put God first and everything else will fall into place. 00:19:20.89\00:19:23.99 Everything will fall into place and how have things now 00:19:24.03\00:19:27.03 fallen into place for you? 00:19:27.06\00:19:28.40 Blessings are just continuing to flow. 00:19:28.43\00:19:31.20 Alright, so would you say to people that... 00:19:31.23\00:19:34.04 because people, you know the Bible says that "It rains 00:19:34.07\00:19:36.67 on the just and the unjust," but I'd rather be 00:19:36.71\00:19:39.31 in His will and, you know, to suffer is to be gained 00:19:39.34\00:19:43.48 in Jesus Christ than to be out of His will, 00:19:43.51\00:19:46.75 and looking over my shoulder because I know 00:19:46.78\00:19:49.15 that I should not be living like this. 00:19:49.18\00:19:50.62 What about those who don't know Jesus - who could be 00:19:50.65\00:19:54.16 watching this program and say, "Wow, I'm pregnant now, 00:19:54.19\00:19:58.46 I'm cohabitating, does God still love me?" 00:19:58.49\00:20:01.90 Of course He does, through good times, through bad, 00:20:01.93\00:20:04.70 we're His children, so no matter what we do, 00:20:04.73\00:20:07.40 He still always is going to be there for us. 00:20:07.44\00:20:09.17 So, you made a mistake, people make mistakes. 00:20:09.20\00:20:11.97 Just move forward and make the right decision going forward. 00:20:12.01\00:20:14.34 So we must repent - that is crucial in salvation, 00:20:15.04\00:20:18.45 we must repent for our sins and, therefore, God looks 00:20:18.48\00:20:23.15 upon the heart, man looks on the outward. 00:20:23.18\00:20:26.32 Did you ever feel like I was judging you as your therapist? 00:20:26.35\00:20:29.69 Sometimes I did! WHAT, wait, hold on now, really? 00:20:29.72\00:20:33.33 Sometimes I did. Why? 00:20:33.36\00:20:37.10 Well sometimes I just feel like Dr. Kim is just like perfect. 00:20:37.13\00:20:41.64 Really? Yeah. 00:20:41.67\00:20:43.00 I'm not perfect. I know that you know 00:20:43.04\00:20:45.24 that no one is perfect, but I knew you were coming 00:20:45.27\00:20:50.75 from a good place, you wanted me to do what's 00:20:50.78\00:20:52.85 right in the eyes of God, so even though I might 00:20:52.88\00:20:55.45 not have wanted to hear things, it was what was right. 00:20:55.48\00:20:58.29 A couple of times, you would leave the session and I didn't 00:20:58.32\00:21:00.32 hear from you for a couple of weeks and then I would 00:21:00.36\00:21:03.39 see your name pop up on my phone and I'm like, 00:21:03.43\00:21:06.26 "Oh, here we go," and I didn't know how you 00:21:06.29\00:21:09.93 were feeling because I would text or call and no response... 00:21:09.96\00:21:13.37 And then I have learned through your experience - you have to 00:21:13.40\00:21:16.40 give people their space. Um hm. 00:21:16.44\00:21:17.94 You have to want this, alright? 00:21:17.97\00:21:20.01 And, you have to be able to grow, 00:21:20.04\00:21:21.91 so, "Seek ye first the kingdom of God." 00:21:21.94\00:21:24.55 So let's talk about - do you study your word, 00:21:24.58\00:21:28.32 do you pray, do you commit to God 00:21:28.35\00:21:31.02 in your tithing and sacrificing for Him? 00:21:31.05\00:21:34.56 Yes, so we do go to church and do the tithing, definitely 00:21:34.59\00:21:38.49 prayer morning and night and then my husband and I 00:21:38.53\00:21:41.06 at night, we pray before we go to sleep. Yes 00:21:41.10\00:21:43.80 We pray for our children and over our families, 00:21:43.83\00:21:48.20 when we're going to or from our destinations. Um hm 00:21:48.24\00:21:52.34 And I'm working with you praying with the children. Yes 00:21:52.37\00:21:55.44 How is that coming? 00:21:55.48\00:21:56.81 It's coming, so the little one, we do his evening prayer 00:21:56.85\00:22:03.45 before he goes to sleep and I know it's for the Lord, 00:22:03.49\00:22:06.35 but sometimes he tries to take 20 minutes... 00:22:06.39\00:22:08.39 He wants to thank the Lord for the sky and the fish and the 00:22:08.42\00:22:12.29 birds and it's like well "Amen," and he will not stop, 00:22:12.33\00:22:14.96 he will keep going, it's so sweet. 00:22:15.00\00:22:17.20 So do you open one eye and look at your husband like 00:22:17.23\00:22:18.67 "are we still here?" 00:22:18.70\00:22:20.74 So implementing that, the 13-year-old, 00:22:20.77\00:22:23.74 she just joined church, so she's really excited about 00:22:23.77\00:22:26.84 getting baptized. Praise the Lord. 00:22:26.88\00:22:29.14 So what do you do for Jeanette because I know you're busy 00:22:29.18\00:22:34.65 with your entities, your family, church, you're busy with me, 00:22:34.68\00:22:39.59 what do you do for you, to enjoy you. 00:22:39.62\00:22:42.86 Do you go to the gym still, do you enjoy just 00:22:42.89\00:22:46.80 taking the afternoon to go and have lunch by yourself, 00:22:46.83\00:22:50.07 read a good book, what do you do for you? 00:22:50.10\00:22:52.60 Nowadays, a nap with just peace and quiet is something for me. 00:22:52.63\00:22:57.77 You know, a nap sounds good. 00:22:57.81\00:23:01.04 The house is empty during the school year, 00:23:01.08\00:23:05.11 but you're still very busy, you're in good health. 00:23:05.15\00:23:08.72 There were no problems after Jordan's birth, 00:23:08.75\00:23:11.65 so now you're able to start planning having a 00:23:11.69\00:23:16.99 child again with your husband. Yes. 00:23:17.03\00:23:19.96 One, two, three, four more? 00:23:20.00\00:23:22.23 I really would like twins. 00:23:22.26\00:23:25.17 You know, the Bible says, "Speak those things into existence." 00:23:25.20\00:23:27.54 We're going to speak twins. 00:23:27.57\00:23:29.20 You just want to have it and get it over with. 00:23:29.24\00:23:31.44 Two at the same time, that would be great. 00:23:31.47\00:23:34.48 Put whatever I'm blessed with... Put it before the Lord. I am. 00:23:34.51\00:23:38.01 So twins, so four children. 00:23:38.05\00:23:40.88 I mean, you have two already from before. Yes. 00:23:40.92\00:23:44.82 That is remarkable! 00:23:44.85\00:23:46.69 But after all we've been through, 00:23:46.72\00:23:48.12 I'm not going to be picky, so if it's one, if it's six, 00:23:48.16\00:23:51.03 I'm not going to be picky. 00:23:51.06\00:23:52.79 You're just open for whatever God's will because you 00:23:52.83\00:23:55.10 know if God is in the plan, it's going to be right. Yes. 00:23:55.13\00:23:59.07 What can you say to young women today that 00:23:59.10\00:24:03.57 may be wavering and making decisions 00:24:03.61\00:24:06.54 and not having a made-up mind because now you have a 00:24:06.57\00:24:09.48 made-up mind to serve the Lord, to be committed 00:24:09.51\00:24:12.65 to your husband, your children, your family, your core. 00:24:12.68\00:24:16.69 You're committed, your mind is made-up, 00:24:16.72\00:24:19.39 and that is a major commitment to not waver 00:24:19.42\00:24:23.06 because that's exhausting, to waver back and forth... 00:24:23.09\00:24:26.19 I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, well maybe 00:24:26.23\00:24:28.90 and that falls under procrastination. Um hm 00:24:28.93\00:24:31.53 Procrastination is NOT our friend, 00:24:31.57\00:24:35.37 alright, it is not our friend. 00:24:35.40\00:24:37.14 So, what can you say to women today and it can be 00:24:37.17\00:24:41.64 applicable to men, but women who are wavering, 00:24:41.68\00:24:45.11 and cannot get a footing on their lives. 00:24:45.15\00:24:48.78 I think it would be applicable to men and women 00:24:48.82\00:24:51.95 to just be obedient. 00:24:51.99\00:24:53.66 It's not going to be easy, but it will be worth it. 00:24:53.69\00:24:57.76 So you're saying it's not easy being obedient to the Lord? 00:24:57.79\00:25:00.60 No. Why do you say that? 00:25:00.63\00:25:02.36 Because we live in a world of temptation. Yes we do. 00:25:02.40\00:25:06.84 So that's why it's not necessarily easy, 00:25:06.87\00:25:09.10 but if you pray, ask the Lord to just be with you, 00:25:09.14\00:25:12.17 to walk in that obedience, it will lighten the load. 00:25:12.21\00:25:15.34 If you had to go back and re-do your life, 00:25:15.38\00:25:17.81 would you have waited until you were married to consummate 00:25:17.85\00:25:21.62 your marriage and have sex, would you have waited? Yes. 00:25:21.65\00:25:24.45 Knowing what you know today. Yes. 00:25:24.49\00:25:26.29 Say that to these young women and young men today... wait. 00:25:26.62\00:25:29.96 Wait. Wait on the Lord. 00:25:29.99\00:25:32.39 Because, you know, each time that you have a sexual 00:25:32.43\00:25:35.96 encounter with someone, you're connecting, 00:25:36.00\00:25:39.00 and do you know people, homicides come out of 00:25:39.03\00:25:43.37 relationships - "You don't love me anymore, 00:25:43.41\00:25:45.34 you don't want to be with me anymore, I gave my body to you." 00:25:45.37\00:25:48.61 The next thing you know, your tires are being cut. 00:25:49.34\00:25:51.78 Your windows are being broken. 00:25:51.81\00:25:53.82 They're angry and they're stalking you because you have 00:25:53.85\00:25:57.42 given your body, your mind, your soul and that should be 00:25:57.45\00:26:01.22 for God only until you are married, alright? 00:26:01.26\00:26:04.39 What about, you know... let's go here for a minute. 00:26:04.43\00:26:07.50 Fondling, young girls, young men fondling. 00:26:07.53\00:26:10.70 Do you think that is something that young people, 00:26:10.73\00:26:14.37 even adults, because I have 40 and 50-year-old people 00:26:14.40\00:26:19.01 getting pregnant who are single. 00:26:19.04\00:26:20.54 You know, they have their careers, their lives... 00:26:20.58\00:26:22.84 What are you doing? 00:26:22.88\00:26:24.95 Dr. Logan, I can't believe this, I'm 45 years old, 00:26:25.65\00:26:29.52 I knew I should not have sex, I'm divorced, 00:26:29.55\00:26:33.32 so I'm single, I AM pregnant at 45. 00:26:33.36\00:26:36.83 Now I can't go to church, I'm embarrassed, 00:26:36.86\00:26:39.29 what do I say to my colleagues, they have known 00:26:39.33\00:26:41.46 all my life, I'm a Christian. 00:26:41.50\00:26:44.07 But we don't stand in judgment, so what do we do? 00:26:44.10\00:26:46.63 You keep moving forward. 00:26:46.67\00:26:49.50 This is just my perspective, I really don't care what 00:26:49.54\00:26:51.87 other people think of me because you're not 00:26:51.91\00:26:53.64 my judge nor jury. Um hm 00:26:53.68\00:26:55.11 So, you can have your own opinion, it's just your 00:26:55.14\00:26:58.75 opinion of my life, but all I can do just repent to 00:26:59.65\00:27:02.98 God for what I've done and move forward. And move forward. 00:27:03.02\00:27:05.29 So, to the young women and young men out there, 00:27:06.25\00:27:08.86 wait - abstain from a sexual relationship before marriage, 00:27:08.89\00:27:13.80 be obedient to God, God will turn 00:27:13.83\00:27:16.26 your life with a "made-up mind." 00:27:16.30\00:27:18.23 Say "made-up mind." "Made-up mind." 00:27:18.27\00:27:20.17 Made-up mind, say "Jeanette has a made-up mind." 00:27:20.20\00:27:22.00 "Jeanette has a made-up mind." 00:27:22.04\00:27:23.41 And then you're allowing it to pour into your family. 00:27:23.44\00:27:26.24 I am just so thankful that you came on today. 00:27:26.27\00:27:29.18 You were so transparent and so honest and open about 00:27:29.21\00:27:33.62 where you are in your life. 00:27:33.65\00:27:35.95 Great things ahead for the Lane family. 00:27:35.98\00:27:38.25 Great things? Great things. 00:27:38.29\00:27:39.62 You know, I'll be there for those triplets, Amen? 00:27:39.65\00:27:42.26 Or those twins? Laughter 00:27:42.29\00:27:45.39 And I'm just excited for you. 00:27:45.43\00:27:47.13 May God bless you as you continue to stay on 00:27:47.16\00:27:49.73 path with the Lord, continue to love your husband, 00:27:49.76\00:27:52.90 and I know how much he loves you. 00:27:52.93\00:27:54.44 And you all definitely are a success story, as you would say, 00:27:54.47\00:28:00.18 but you're God's story and God is smiling down because 00:28:00.21\00:28:04.75 you recognize the importance of it. 00:28:04.78\00:28:06.92 I want to thank you for being on "Live to Be Well." 00:28:06.95\00:28:09.48 I'm Dr. Kim Logan Nolan and continue to have a 00:28:09.52\00:28:13.69 "made-up mind" and "Live to Be Well," God bless. 00:28:13.72\00:28:16.29