Harvest truly is plenteous,
but the laborers are few.
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Pray ye therefore
the Lord of the harvest,
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that He will send forth
laborers into His harvest.
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Also I heard the
voice of the Lord saying,
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"Whom shall I send?
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And who will go
for us?" And said I,
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"Here am I. Send me, send me!"
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Life on the edge will
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harvest before Lord.
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Welcome again to the Lay
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Our life on the
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I am glad you
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the second half of our
study on the Spirit of Prophecy.
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I do want to encourage you that,
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if you haven't
seen the first half
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of the Spirit of Prophecy
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that you go get-- go
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and go back to the prior DVD
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and make sure you
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And you can also
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that go along with
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Our study guides, oh I want to,
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I want to give
you something here,
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our study guides
the way they're written,
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they're not written just to
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they're written with a,
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with a--in the
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can know how to give the study.
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So actually the study
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that you can give the study
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and not just to
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because it has a lot of
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they may say you know,
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So it has extra notes on it
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just for you as the person
presenting the Bible study.
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Because what we're
trying to get accomplished here
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at the Lay
Institute for Evangelism
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not just for our students,
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but for you at home is
you can take your Bible
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into a home
without one piece of paper
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and just have your Bible
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and give a Bible
study with only your Bible,
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that's probably we're going
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and so you can be
at any place at anytime
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and may be you don't
have your amazing facts,
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or it is written or when
you study guides hand to you,
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you discover study guides
you don't have one of those,
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but you want to give a study,
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you can do it
just from your Bible.
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And so all of our students here
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are getting through that,
may not do that themselves.
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So, here what we're doing now
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is we're going
into the second half
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of the "Spirit
of Prophecy Study"
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it's abbreviated "SP"
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you've seen up
there abbreviated "SP"
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and we're going in
the second half of it.
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We have already
covered up to a certain point,
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we're gonna do just a little bit
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of review at the beginning here,
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it's kind of refresh ourselves
and then we're gonna get
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into the final part
of this, of this study.
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So, let us continue
on if you notice here
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we already give the purpose,
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the purpose was
to show that God--
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that the gift of
prophecy has been given to God's
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people through all ages.
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And He continues
to do that even today.
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And the Center It part of
the study is we're gonna--
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the prophecy is a gift from God,
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because He loves us.
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If you remember
in our previous study
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we talked about
some of the prophets,
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prophets that were in--
they had contemporaries.
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In other words the
people that lived in the same
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time frame as the prophets,
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they usually the
prophets weren't appreciated.
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They weren't appreciated
by their contemporaries
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by the people who
lived in the same time frame.
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We're gonna find it
that's been consistent
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not only through history,
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but it's also is the
same thing in our very day
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that prophets aren't
appreciated by the people
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who lived in
the same time frame.
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Remember, you
remember when Jesus one time
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He was talking to the
religious leaders of his day
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and He says, you all--
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I think its Matthew Chapter 23
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if you want to get the
idea what's in the Bible,
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I believe that's
what it said in that area.
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What He says you guys,
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you decorate the
tombs of the prophets
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and you do all these things,
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He said can you say things like
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if we were there in
a days of our fathers,
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we would not have
persecuted the prophets.
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And he says, but basically
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you're doing the
same thing they did today,
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because you're still
persecuting the prophets
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and then as today often times
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we look back with
this pious holiness,
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we'll say oh, if I
lived back in that time
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I wouldn't have
persecuted John the Baptist,
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or Jeremiah, or
Isaiah and those prophets,
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I would have
listened to them, right.
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We kind of like to
say that, but yet today
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we're guilty of doing
the same thing often times,
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we like to stone the prophets.
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And so we're gonna--as we
continue through the study,
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we're gonna find out that things
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haven't change
like Solomon said,
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"There's nothing new
under the sun", right?
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It's all the same thing
just recycled over again,
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has to do with our
falling human nature I guess?
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All right here's the text that,
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we 're gonna have
reviews in our study.
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We're actually up to Daniel 8:14
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our ninth Spirit
of Prophecy study
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we're up to
number nine right now,
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we're picking up
in the second half.
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You can get an
idea of how many texts
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we have left to use
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and we get through
those in about an hour's time.
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So we have about an hour
to go to finish up the study.
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And hopefully,
prayerfully by the time
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we get through the study,
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you get it marked in your Bible.
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You can go give an intelligent,
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a good Bible study
on this subject on the,
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of the Spirit of Prophecy,
or the subject of prophets.
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So, let us get back in I
want to do a quick review now.
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You remember
what we've discovered,
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we started in back
in the Book of Genesis.
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Does anybody remember
what Chapter in Genesis?
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Genesis Chapter, Chapter 5
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that's exactly right
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and we found
that we start looking
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at the ages of certain
people and we found out that,
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that when Noah was born
that Methuselah was how old?
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369, He was 369
when Moses was born,
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when Noah was
born, when Noah was born,
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yeah, when Noah was born.
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So at 369 years old and then
Noah got to be 600 years old
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and the flood came and then how
old was Methuselah then? 969.
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So and so Methuselah
dies and the flood comes
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and so God gives
a timeline prophecy
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and He raises up a prophet
at the end by the name of Noah.
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Say, hey it's coming to an end
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and He'd done the
same thing with Abraham.
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Abraham gets the
timeline prophecy,
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how long was that
timeline prophecy for?
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400 years at the
end of 430 years,
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after the 400 years
it says after 400 years
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it will be
delivered and they were,
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because God rose up another
prophet by the name of Moses
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and Moses comes
and he announces hey,
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God sent me here to deliver
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you out of bondage
and he did just that.
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God used Moses to
deliver them out of bondage.
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And then, and then we've found
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another prophet
Jeremiah and I told you this
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is one of my most
favorite prophets in the Bible,
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it's because you
learn to really appreciate
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the fact that no one listened
to anything he had to say,
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but yet he faithfully
continue to give the message.
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Well, that's something
for us to learn, isn't it?
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So Jeremiah, he has
given the faithful message,
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he says, hey, don't listen
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to your prophets
and your dreamers
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and the people around in you day
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saying that nothing
is gonna happen to us,
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because something is
going to happen to you.
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You gonna go into
bondage for how long?
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Seventy years. Seventy
years, now one person answering
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all the questions, thanks, Mike.
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Seventy years
they're gonna go into bondage
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and at the end of the
70 years nothing happened.
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No, God pulled
the attention of who?
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Daniel, Daniel said look
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I was studying
the books of Jeremiah,
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the prophet, who by the way my,
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my relatives even myself
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wasn't really
listening to when I was a kid.
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We didn't really
pay attention to him,
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because he was a
contemporary and, you know,
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we don't like
prophets in our time frame,
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we like to look
at the old prophets
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and when God raises
them one up in our timeframe
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we really tend not to
listen to him too much.
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Anyway that's what happened,
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Daniel repents and he says,
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oh, I've been
reading the book of Jeremiah,
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Daniel 9:2 I've been
reading the book of Jeremiah
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and Jeremiah said,
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we'll be 70
years here in bondage.
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Seventy years is about up,
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exciting things are
getting ready to happen.
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So he goes into
this prayer forgive us
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for not
listening to your prophets
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and then Daniel himself
at the end of that prayer,
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God comes to him
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and gives him
another time line prophecy.
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How long is this
time line prophecy for?
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Seventy weeks. Seventy weeks,
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actually that is 69,
it's a 70 week prophecy,
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but he says in 69
weeks what's gonna happen?
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The Messiah is going to come.
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And so God keeps
His pattern going right?
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He keeps the same pattern going
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and so at the end
of the 69 weeks here,
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God says, okay to the people
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something is
getting ready to happen,
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but you have to
figure it out on your own.
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No, he raises up another guy
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that no one wanted to listen to
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and who was that guy?
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John the Baptist,
so, John the Baptist,
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comes to the town
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and he starts preaching
the message and he says,
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hey the Messiah is
coming, the time is fulfilled,
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you better get
ready the Messiah is here
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and no one listened to him.
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Oh, a few people did,
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peoples were
getting baptized by him
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but the majority of people
kind of rejected his message.
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And then Jesus
comes along and said,
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John the Baptist was
right the time is fulfilled.
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The timeline
prophecy comes to an end,
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so God gives this
pattern of prophets
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all the way down through time
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and then Daniel himself
gives another timeline prophecy.
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Daniel gives
another timeline prophecy,
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we've already covered it as
we studied the judgment part II,
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we've already just
studied the judgment part II.
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And we've figured out
that this timeline prophecy
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has an ending and
we're gonna go into it now.
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Daniel Chapter 8 in verse 14.
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Is that a pretty good
review? Everybody up to SP,
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even if you didn't
watch the first DVD,
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may be that
reviewed enough at least,
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you know, what we're doing here.
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So Daniel Chapter 8 in verse 14,
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I believe Jessica,
can read that for us.
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No, let me, let me,
let's have Mike read,
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let's just start with
Mike there, I am sorry.
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Daniel 8:14, no,
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no Mike don't
open your Bible to it,
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just quote it brother?
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And He said unto me, right?
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He said unto me after 2300 days
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and then shall the
sanctuary be cleansed.
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That's exactly right and he
said unto me after 2300 days
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then shall the sanctuary
be cleansed. I know you knew,
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you just had to get
into your mind there right?
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We know that text
pretty well don't we?
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And when did
that timeline run out?
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Does anybody
remember? We studied it,
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we picked it up,
when did it began?
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Let me put this way
first, when did it began?
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457 BC when the
decree goes out to restore
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and built Jerusalem,
right? And we studied that,
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when we studied the
2300 day timeline prophecy.
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Now here's what fascinating.
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God now gives
another timeline prophecy,
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2300 days then shall
sanctuary be cleansed.
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If He is gonna be consistent,
let us look at it real quick,
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I'm just gonna put
it up on the screen.
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If God is gonna be consistent
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as He has done all
through the Bible Enoch to Noah,
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Abraham to Moses,
Jeremiah to Daniel,
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Daniel to John,
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Daniel gives a 2300
day timeline prophecy
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that expires in what year? 1844.
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What is, what is God gonna do in
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and around the year 1844
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if He is gonna be consistent
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with what He has done
all through the Bible.
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Yeah, and who else might
recognize this? The devil.
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I mean if you were the devil,
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who do you suppose knows
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the Bible
better me or the devil?
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How about all of us
combined with the devil.
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The devil right?
And do you suppose
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it may be the devil
recognizes this, this,
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this pattern it's
going on in the Bible.
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So if you're the devil,
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I'm gonna let you play devil's
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advocate here just for a minute.
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If you're the devil
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what would you do in and around,
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somewhere around the
year 1844 what would you do?
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Getting
distractions. Distractions,
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I would muddy the
waters, wouldn't you,
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I would do everything, I
could and yet people would say
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oh just reject all
prophets, you know, just don't
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accept any prophets,
just reject them all,
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because they're all
bunch of phonies, right?
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And it's funny
because all through
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the Bible as you go
through, if we looked at,
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we spend more time
studying in the detail about
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Enoch and Noah,
Abraham and Moses,
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Jeremiah and Daniel,
especially when you get to
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Jeremiah and Daniel
and Daniel and John,
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that's exactly what was
going on in their time frames,
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like when there
was cut comes time
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for God raise
up another prophet,
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there will be all kinds
of false prophets rising up,
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like the devil knew something
was going to be happening,
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he tried to muddy the water,
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so they would all be rejected.
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See, he doesn't
care how he gets us.
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The devil doesn't
care how he gets this,
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this as long as he does.
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And so as we look here,
we gonna ask the question,
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who is it that's gonna
come up if you look at back
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at the screen here
is prophetic pattern.
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Who is it that's
gonna come up at the end
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somewhere around the end of 1844
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at the end of
Daniel's timeline prophecy
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that's gonna be announcing.
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What is this person
gonna be talking about mainly?
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The 2300 day prophecy.
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If you have a prophet come up
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and claiming to be a
prophet in around that time
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and they don't
mention the 2300 days,
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they don't mention Daniel 8:14,
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can they fit this
timeline prophecy?
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Can they be the
prophet that God is raising up?
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No, no because you will notice
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Noah, Moses,
Daniel, and John all though,
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even though they had
other things they talked about,
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the main trust of their ministry
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was what God called them to do.
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They talked about other things,
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but they also their main trust
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was what God called
them specifically to do
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and God used them to prophecy
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other things
and do other things.
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So let us look at this,
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I want to show you some things.
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"Prophetic
Movements" in and around 1844,
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some Prophetic Movements,
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some things that
happened in and around 1844.
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Now, for the sake of time
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we're gonna keep
it kind of brief,
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it's gonna be a short
list I'm gonna give you.
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There's a really a good book out
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written by Ron du Preez.
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And it's I think the book
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if I remember the
title exactly right it's
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"1844 The Day that
Changed the World".
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And you understand
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"1844 The Day
that Changed the World"
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it's like a, it's like a
play on words there you know,
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because a day is a
year in Bible Prophecy.
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So he says, you know,
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the year 1844 is a day
that changed the world.
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And he actually does
a real interesting study
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where he goes through
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and this shows all
the things that come up
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and happen in and
around that time frame
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of 1844 is
fascinating. It's fascinating
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and I'm gonna through
just some of them right now
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and some of the
movements that rose up
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and some of things that happened
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and it's just
unbelievable to me in my view
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anyway that what all the devil
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did around that time frame
to try to get a distraction,
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to try to have a distraction,
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he knew that God
was gonna do something.
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So the first one that comes up
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is and it's real popular today,
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Darwin's Origin of the Species
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first published
in what year? 1844.
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Isn't that fascinating?
Now, some people say,
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well that's not a
prophet or religion, no, no.
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Listen it takes
more faith to believe
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that you evolve from
rain pouring upon rocks
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and lightning striking,
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it takes more faith to
believe that than really that
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a "Creator Created
Us" it is a religion,
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when you have to have faith
in something, its religion.
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That people like to say that ho,
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that ho
evolution and everything,
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it's like scientific,
but they have nothing--
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they kind like go into
laboratory and demonstrate
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scientifically. So in that case
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it's not science as much as we--
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we try to shy away from
saying anything about that,
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because we don't
want people thinking
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we're foolish for saying
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we don't believe in
evolution, but you know,
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I don't believe
that the earth is flat.
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I don't believe that the
sun rotates around the earth
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and I don't
believe in global warming.
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And I don't believe
that we evolve from rocks
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and monkeys and apes
and things like that.
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Now, some people say
that may sound foolish,
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but you know,
people used to believe
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that the sun
rotated around the earth
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and if he didn't believe
you thought I was a fool.
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And people used to
believe that the earth is flat,
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if he didn't believe
that you're kind of a foolish
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because of course science
and everybody told us today
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that the earth is flat, right?
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And the same foolish
people believe in evolution
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and other
things, its foolishness.
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And so when this comes
up as a--it is a religion
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because people it
takes faith to believe
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that you evolved
as much more so than
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it does you're
created, so it is religion.
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And knew Darwin is their
prophet, you can say that.
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They worship the guy, right?
So, I think it's fascinating
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that it comes up
around this time frame.
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The devil is trying
to, now if you remember
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we've already studied about
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the "Three Angles Messages"
right and we don't get into
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the remnant
church on another study,
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but I think
something is fascinating
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because when you read
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the "Three Angles Messages"
in Revelation Chapter 14.
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The cry is they call back God--
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call people back to
worshiping God as the Creator.
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But Darwinism says don't
worship any God as creator,
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because you
evolved, you see, you see
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the conflict in
the religions there?
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Christianity and Darwinism
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can't match in anyways
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as much as
Christians try to do it today
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because they want to look smart.
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If you want to look
smart in front of man
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the Bible says
that's foolishness to God
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and I can go and preach about
that I just love doing that.
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And I usually do this
when I'm giving my Bible study
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on this particular thing
or I'm preaching about it,
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I spend a lot of
time on this here too,
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because many people
they want to think themselves
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looking smart
in the world's eye.
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And if you want to do that,
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you will never look
smart in God's eyes.
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So, you have to just
simply take what God has said
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and so spend a
little time on that,
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when you give the study
and just make the points
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and if you want another
really good point to make
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when you bring this up is
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if you believe in evolution
00:14:52.44\00:14:53.41
any at all other than
what we call micro English,
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and you are like a fish
may if it's born in a cave
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after certain generations
or two they will born blind,
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because it
doesn't need it's eyes,
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you know, because it's in dark.
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I've learned something
just recently listen to this.
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There's never been--they have
nothing to prove of evolution
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where there's actually
any genes added to anything,
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things are just taken away.
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In other words though
evolved we evolved negatively,
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if I'm sailing like a
fish doesn't get or bird
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whatever it doesn't
have like better eyes,
00:15:21.12\00:15:22.85
because it needs them
or anything like that,
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everything always degenerating,
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is that make sense?
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So, to believe
in evolution to say
00:15:27.72\00:15:29.61
that you believe
that one thing evolved
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from one to another through
a death and death process,
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if you had that,
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if you had death before
sin then God is a tyrant.
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If you had death before
sin then God is a tyrant.
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So, for Christian to
say and I'll explain myself,
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for Christian to say
00:15:44.81\00:15:45.89
that they believe
in Darwinism in anyway,
00:15:45.90\00:15:47.54
they believe in
evolution in anyway,
00:15:47.55\00:15:49.18
what you're actually
saying is you believe
00:15:49.19\00:15:50.55
that there was death before sin.
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The Bible says in Genesis
00:15:51.82\00:15:53.88
that death is the result of sin
00:15:53.89\00:15:57.13
and so if God
allowed things to die
00:15:57.14\00:15:59.15
before they were
sin that saying that,
00:15:59.16\00:16:01.68
that he will
punish things with death
00:16:01.69\00:16:04.12
before there was any
reason to punish them, right?
00:16:04.13\00:16:06.90
That's the
punishment for sin is death
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and so you got to reject
that flatly as a Christian.
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And again when I
get in the Bible study
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or even teaching this in anyway,
00:16:14.09\00:16:15.40
I spend a little
bit of time there,
00:16:15.41\00:16:16.75
because it is such a
heavy thing in our earth today
00:16:16.76\00:16:18.10
and it's
fascinating that it was in,
00:16:18.11\00:16:21.27
doing a "Three Angles Messages"
00:16:21.28\00:16:22.74
that they call
will be going out.
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They call people back
to worshiping God as their
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Creator, it's like God
knew what will be going on.
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Well, of course He did.
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And so-- that you have to be
00:16:30.25\00:16:31.40
one of those people
that's standing firm
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even if it's against in a face
00:16:32.96\00:16:34.49
of what is called modern
reason and modern science
00:16:34.50\00:16:37.20
which is not science at all,
00:16:37.21\00:16:38.37
so called science you could say.
00:16:38.38\00:16:39.80
It's going in
the face of all that,
00:16:39.81\00:16:41.38
we have to be
preaching that message
00:16:41.39\00:16:42.78
that God wants us to preach
00:16:42.79\00:16:43.76
and that is to call back
00:16:43.77\00:16:44.87
to worshiping
God as the creator,
00:16:44.88\00:16:47.35
and He created us.
Darwinism said He didn't.
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Let's go to the next snap,
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spend enough
time on that I guess.
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Siyyid
Ali-Mohammad, the Baha'i' Faith
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and it's like a shoot
off from Islam and Baha'i
00:16:54.63\00:16:59.38
that means Gate
there. May 23rd 1844,
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he has his
first vision so called
00:17:02.73\00:17:06.02
and he announces who
he is and what he is doing
00:17:06.03\00:17:08.44
and that he was the herald
of the new messenger of God,
00:17:08.45\00:17:10.92
fascinating that he
rises up in this time frame,
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I think this is counterfeit
00:17:12.97\00:17:14.15
that the devil brought
in the Muslim world here,
00:17:14.16\00:17:16.44
they have over two
million followers today,
00:17:16.45\00:17:18.14
two million plus of
these followers of the Baha'i
00:17:18.15\00:17:20.95
and they thought he was
the, he was the one coming,
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he was the prophet
who was being raised up
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and it's in 1844 he
has his first vision,
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it's interesting
point. Joseph Smith
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"is martyred or shot to death,
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what year? 1844 And even though
00:17:32.34\00:17:35.83
he was raised up a
little bit prior to 1844
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so to speak he has raised up,
00:17:38.17\00:17:39.46
he became like
when he was "martyred"
00:17:39.47\00:17:42.17
then like the followers
00:17:42.18\00:17:44.15
really doubled or
tripled because oh,
00:17:44.16\00:17:46.10
look here this was the prophet
00:17:46.11\00:17:47.26
that's been
martyred. Let's carry on.
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Andrew Jackson Davis
00:17:51.10\00:17:52.48
the "American
Spiritualist Movement"
00:17:52.49\00:17:53.46
he lived the time frame
there is 1826-1910 and just,
00:17:53.47\00:17:58.24
another false prophet,
00:17:58.25\00:17:59.31
let us put it that
way, another false prophet.
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Here's another
one Mary Baker Eddy
00:18:01.62\00:18:03.44
and definite counterfeit here,
00:18:03.45\00:18:05.09
the Christian
scientist, 1821 to 1910,
00:18:05.10\00:18:08.38
wrote a lot about
health and things like that
00:18:08.39\00:18:10.41
and health with "TH" not help
00:18:10.42\00:18:13.07
but health with the "TH"
00:18:13.08\00:18:14.99
I saw Roberto
writing in his notes there
00:18:15.00\00:18:17.26
and I want to
make sure he understood
00:18:17.27\00:18:18.44
that I put the TH
on the end of that.
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So, she wrote a lot about
health and things like that,
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and then it's Ellen White
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Seventh-day Adventist 1827-1915.
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Now, this is a
short list we there,
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there is a longer list
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but I got to the point
I wanted to make right now
00:18:31.68\00:18:33.35
that the devil is
muddying the water isn't he?
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Is God gonna raise up a
true prophet around that time.
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So, our question
that we're looking for,
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we're not looking for--
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we're not trying to
answer that question
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and saying okay is
there gonna be a prophet
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or is there not
gonna be a prophet, right?
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The Bible is pretty clear
through the prophetic pattern
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we've looked at that
there is gonna be a prophet,
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isn't that pretty clear?
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We've looked at a pattern here.
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So, the question we have
that we need to answer is not
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if there is gonna be a
prophet in this time frame,
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but who it's gonna be, right.
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You know with
this list right here
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just this list I can narrow
00:19:03.96\00:19:05.16
it down to one
by just fitting one,
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one part of the,
of the description
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we're gonna be looking for it.
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Now, remember in order
for the timeline prophecy
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in order for to fit
this. What one thing
00:19:15.20\00:19:16.72
that they definitely
gonna have to write about?
00:19:16.73\00:19:19.56
Daniel 8:14 the
2300 days they definitely
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gonna have to write
about that, aren't they,
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because that's the pointing
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to the end of the
timeline prophecy, isn't it?
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And what was gonna happened
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at the end of
that timeline prophecy?
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The judgment will begin,
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remember so they gonna be
writing about the judgment
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beginning and all--
that's gonna be a main trust
00:19:31.76\00:19:34.19
of their message right?
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They if, it's gonna
keep the same pattern
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as they look through the Bible,
00:19:37.11\00:19:38.30
fascinatingly enough it's like,
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it's like God held
over the eyes of the devil
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and his false
prophets during the time.
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So, they would not recognize it,
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it would not know
to write about that,
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because of this list here
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and the list
can be a lot longer,
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you can put a lot more in there.
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Only one speaks even
writes about anything about
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the judgment hour
message in 1844 and Daniel 8:14
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only one and that
one being obviously
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Ellen White of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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Ellen White, now
some people is like
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oh, I can't believe this
00:20:07.92\00:20:08.92
now they're gonna
go jump on the internet
00:20:08.93\00:20:10.52
and they gonna type Ellen White
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and they gonna find page
after page of a bunch of garbage
00:20:11.69\00:20:13.90
about how she
was a false prophet
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and how this and
before they ever listened
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to anything else, but I
want to ask you at home,
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I want you to
think about something
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as we went through the Bible
we have already recognize it
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if the internet,
if Google was around
00:20:23.46\00:20:25.61
back in the time of Noah,
in the back of time of Moses
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and the time of Jeremiah
and Daniel and John the Baptist
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what would they be
saying about these guys?
00:20:31.29\00:20:33.61
Right, Google have been
slamming them wouldn't it,
00:20:33.62\00:20:35.56
especially,
especially when you got
00:20:35.57\00:20:36.59
to the more modern
prophet of John the Baptist,
00:20:36.60\00:20:38.13
you know, he is
wearing strange cloths,
00:20:38.14\00:20:39.21
preaching the strange
message, eating strange food,
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not what the rest
of the world is doing.
00:20:42.14\00:20:44.86
And so if you gonna
be looking for a prophet
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what we're gonna be looking for,
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I mean, one of the
things going pretty
00:20:48.01\00:20:49.27
consistent guys and girls here.
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What's gonna be something that
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if we are
looking for consistency,
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what we're gonna be looking for
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about them on the internet.
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Everybody gonna love him, right.
00:20:56.69\00:20:58.83
Every time God
raise up a prophet,
00:20:58.84\00:21:00.15
everybody loved him,
haven't, didn't they?
00:21:00.16\00:21:01.84
They just had
so many nice things
00:21:01.85\00:21:02.89
to say about them, right?
00:21:02.90\00:21:04.83
No, you're gonna find lot
of objections, aren't you?
00:21:04.84\00:21:07.42
But here is the thing,
00:21:07.43\00:21:09.54
can the objections be
answered? Yes they can.
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Now for those of you
that have come to Life,
00:21:13.50\00:21:16.13
we're gonna have a whole class
00:21:16.14\00:21:17.74
covering the Sprit of Prophecy
here in about four weeks.
00:21:17.75\00:21:20.20
And so those folks at
home if they wanna come to Life
00:21:20.21\00:21:22.42
and hear the whole class
on the Spirit of Prophecy,
00:21:22.43\00:21:24.39
the whole week long class.
00:21:24.40\00:21:25.47
Then you have to come
during the next semester
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that we have you
go on our website,
00:21:27.31\00:21:28.51
find out when that's gonna be.
00:21:28.52\00:21:29.94
But for those who are
here, we are gonna cover
00:21:29.95\00:21:31.03
all those so called objections
00:21:31.04\00:21:32.24
you find on the
internet and things like that.
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And they are,
really are simply answered.
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I can remember when I
first was studying the Bible,
00:21:37.08\00:21:38.64
and I learned all these truths
00:21:38.65\00:21:40.86
as I am sharing in a Bible study
00:21:40.87\00:21:42.52
and I get to this point, I
share my experience, right.
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And I just tell them simply,
as I learned these truths
00:21:46.07\00:21:47.97
that you have learned here
as we went to this Bible study,
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we went through
study after study, Mike,
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you know, we've
come to this point now
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and for I remember
the first time I heard
00:21:53.06\00:21:54.97
somebody mentioned
that the Spirit of Prophecy
00:21:54.98\00:21:56.99
or Ellen White I
thought oh, you know,
00:21:57.00\00:21:59.58
it's just like why
had to be this you know,
00:21:59.59\00:22:01.90
everything is so
good, it's so right,
00:22:01.91\00:22:03.43
everything fit
the Bible so perfectly
00:22:03.44\00:22:05.07
but, you know, I
found out that the Bible
00:22:05.08\00:22:07.52
actually does teach that
God will still guide His church
00:22:07.53\00:22:10.21
through prophecy
even in the last days.
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If the Bible teaches
that it will be wrong for me
00:22:12.24\00:22:14.50
just to flatly reject it.
00:22:14.51\00:22:15.93
And so I said
okay, I'll investigate
00:22:15.94\00:22:17.83
and you know what I did,
00:22:17.84\00:22:19.86
shortly after I
learned about this
00:22:19.87\00:22:21.42
I went on the internet
I find all the bad things
00:22:21.43\00:22:23.02
that the internet had
to say about Ellen White.
00:22:23.03\00:22:25.33
But, you know, what I
did it with those things.
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I investigated to
see if they were true,
00:22:27.38\00:22:29.95
and I found out what ever one
of those so called objections
00:22:29.96\00:22:32.63
there is a really
simple clear answer,
00:22:32.64\00:22:36.31
you have an answer to
it, biblical answer or,
00:22:36.32\00:22:37.90
you know, or just
commonsense answer,
00:22:37.91\00:22:39.81
you know, it's like, you know,
00:22:39.82\00:22:41.44
I've seen all kinds of
strange things out there
00:22:41.45\00:22:43.01
I don't want to get
into those right now but.
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Ellen White, she is the only
one out of all these prophets
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that wrote specifically
detailed about the prophecy
00:22:48.43\00:22:50.93
of the investigative
judgment, the 1844,
00:22:50.94\00:22:53.37
we have already
studied this whole study,
00:22:53.38\00:22:54.66
we've done a judgment to study.
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I want to give you a
small example now of her writing
00:22:56.06\00:22:58.18
and it's found here in
the book "Great Controversy"
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I will give you that,
the reference as we get
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to the second half of this.
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The question,
what is the sanctuary?
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Is clearly answered in
the Scriptures she says.
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The term "sanctuary" as
used in the Bible, refers,
00:23:08.95\00:23:11.89
first to the
tabernacle built by Moses,
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as a pattern of heavenly things.
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Now she is quoting there
from the book of Hebrews,
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the pattern of
the heavenly things,
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and secondly, to the
"true tabernacle" in heaven,
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to which the earthly
sanctuary has pointed.
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At the death of Christ
the typical service ended.
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The "true tabernacle" in heaven
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is the sanctuary
of the new covenant.
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Going on to the next slide.
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And as the
prophecy of Daniel 8:14
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is fulfilled in
this dispensation,
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the sanctuary to which it refers
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must be the
sanctuary of the new covenant.
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At the termination of
the 2300 days, in 1844,
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there had been no sanctuary
on earth for many centuries.
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Thus the
prophecy, "Unto two thousand
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and three hundred days,
00:23:52.56\00:23:53.58
then shall the
sanctuary be cleansed,"
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unquestionably points
to the sanctuary in heaven.
00:23:55.96\00:23:58.77
That's Great Controversy page
417 of book Ellen White wrote.
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She is writing
in detail right now
00:24:01.82\00:24:03.58
about the whole
investigative judgment
00:24:03.59\00:24:05.74
the sanctuary in 1844,
and the 2300 day prophecy.
00:24:05.75\00:24:09.78
None of these others so
called prophets even touched it.
00:24:09.79\00:24:13.62
They don't even
begin to elaborate on it
00:24:13.63\00:24:15.55
or talk about it, because
they don't understand it.
00:24:15.56\00:24:18.21
But God has come in and He
has given us understanding here.
00:24:18.22\00:24:20.59
Now, when we done
the 2300 day prophecy,
00:24:20.60\00:24:23.52
when we studied
that judgment too,
00:24:23.53\00:24:25.65
Tom did we use Ellen White?
00:24:25.66\00:24:28.01
No, if you go back and
watch the DVD yourself at home,
00:24:28.02\00:24:29.94
if you go watch the DVD
we never used Ellen White
00:24:29.95\00:24:31.83
to come up with
2300 days ending in 1844,
00:24:31.84\00:24:34.54
we use the Bible and that's what
00:24:34.55\00:24:36.25
and that's how
we determined that.
00:24:36.26\00:24:37.23
And remember what we found,
00:24:37.24\00:24:38.81
if you remember
what we found in the,
00:24:38.82\00:24:40.74
in that study was just
assure as Jesus came on time,
00:24:40.75\00:24:43.92
because the beginning of the
timeline prophecy was 457 BC,
00:24:43.93\00:24:47.33
which brought us up
to the time of Jesus.
00:24:47.34\00:24:49.15
That was cut off from
the rest of the 2300 days
00:24:49.16\00:24:51.82
and so just assure
as Jesus came on time,
00:24:51.83\00:24:54.17
the judgment
began on time, in 1844.
00:24:54.18\00:24:56.86
so as just assure as
Jesus came, so did the judgment.
00:24:56.87\00:25:02.28
They're linked together
you understand that right?
00:25:02.29\00:25:04.02
And so it's a powerful
idea to kind of get in your head
00:25:04.03\00:25:07.35
that if you
believe in Jesus came
00:25:07.36\00:25:09.70
when He is supposed to come,
00:25:09.71\00:25:10.68
you also have to
believe that the judgment began
00:25:10.69\00:25:12.23
when it's supposed to begin.
00:25:12.24\00:25:13.72
And so the judgment
is being going on now
00:25:13.73\00:25:15.46
since the year 1844,
00:25:15.47\00:25:17.18
where Jesus moved
from the holy place
00:25:17.19\00:25:19.14
to the most holy place in heaven
00:25:19.15\00:25:20.66
and He is
cleansing the sanctuary,
00:25:20.67\00:25:22.16
remember what sanctuary
He is actually cleansing?
00:25:22.17\00:25:24.82
Us. He is cleansing
us, getting us ready,
00:25:24.83\00:25:27.03
preparing us for heaven.
00:25:27.04\00:25:28.16
So, there you go from
the Great Controversy.
00:25:28.17\00:25:29.58
Now, the Bible does warn us,
00:25:29.59\00:25:32.72
we're gonna go and now
that I've kind of reveal
00:25:32.73\00:25:34.55
this a little
bit, we're gonna see
00:25:34.56\00:25:35.82
some of the ways
that she actually
00:25:35.83\00:25:37.32
fits the determination in
the Bible for being a prophet.
00:25:37.33\00:25:40.44
But as we're linking, excuse me,
00:25:40.45\00:25:42.49
as we're linking into
that Matthew Chapter 24,
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I want you to open your
Bible to Matthew Chapter 24
00:25:45.27\00:25:47.12
and Daniel is gonna
read verse 4 for us,
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Matthew Chapter 24 and verse 4.
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Notice that Jesus
gives us a warning
00:25:53.43\00:25:55.27
right when the disciples
ask Him about the end of time
00:25:55.28\00:25:57.42
and things like
that, Jesus says something
00:25:57.43\00:25:59.65
very interesting,
Daniel what is it?
00:25:59.66\00:26:01.66
"And Jesus
answered and said unto them,
00:26:01.67\00:26:03.94
Take heed that
no man deceive you."
00:26:03.95\00:26:06.07
So, what's the first
warning that Jesus gives
00:26:06.08\00:26:07.54
when they ask Him
about the end of time?
00:26:07.55\00:26:09.66
Beware of deception
and what's specific Daniel
00:26:09.67\00:26:11.82
don't put that down yet.
00:26:11.83\00:26:12.80
What specific deception all we
would be looking for verse 11.
00:26:12.81\00:26:17.75
"And many false
prophets shall rise,
00:26:17.76\00:26:19.71
and shall
deceive many." Verse 24.
00:26:19.72\00:26:22.84
"For there shall
arise false Christs,
00:26:22.85\00:26:24.49
and false prophets, and shall
shew great signs and wonders,
00:26:24.50\00:26:28.12
insomuch that,
if it were possible,
00:26:28.13\00:26:29.93
they shall
deceive the very elect."
00:26:29.94\00:26:31.70
So, Jesus warns his
followers don't be deceived
00:26:31.71\00:26:34.30
about these
false prophets, right,
00:26:34.31\00:26:36.55
He warns us don't be
deceived about false prophets.
00:26:36.56\00:26:38.64
Now, if He says don't be
deceived about false prophets
00:26:38.65\00:26:40.92
what would that
automatically indicate?
00:26:40.93\00:26:44.29
And there will
also be true prophets,
00:26:44.30\00:26:46.60
otherwise Jesus would
say something like this,
00:26:46.61\00:26:49.41
beware of all
prophets just reject them all,
00:26:49.42\00:26:51.84
don't listen to any of them
00:26:51.85\00:26:52.82
because I'm like the
last one here, right?
00:26:52.83\00:26:55.68
After the disciples then don't,
00:26:55.69\00:26:57.25
don't hear anybody
else because this is it.
00:26:57.26\00:27:00.04
But He is
speaking specifically here
00:27:00.05\00:27:01.15
of the last days, He
says it's gonna rise up
00:27:01.16\00:27:03.21
false prophets
and then you could
00:27:03.22\00:27:04.59
also just add in
there if you wanted to.
00:27:04.60\00:27:05.92
Now somebody is gonna
write me a letter and say
00:27:05.93\00:27:07.43
you're adding to the
Bible, false prophets,
00:27:07.44\00:27:09.44
He says beware of but
then, you can just add in there
00:27:09.45\00:27:11.88
and say but you don't have
to be beware of true prophets.
00:27:11.89\00:27:15.08
Now, that's not
really adding to it,
00:27:15.09\00:27:16.28
it's just, it's
just automatically there
00:27:16.29\00:27:17.46
because He says
beware of false ones,
00:27:17.47\00:27:19.16
then it must gonna be
some true ones, right?
00:27:19.17\00:27:22.05
And so He warns that right
here, so we have to beware.
00:27:22.06\00:27:23.91
Now, if He's
beware, if He is telling us
00:27:23.92\00:27:26.25
to beware of false prophets
00:27:26.26\00:27:28.11
and we know there
is gonna be true ones,
00:27:28.12\00:27:29.77
how do we
identify a false prophets?
00:27:29.78\00:27:33.23
And if we
identify a false prophet
00:27:33.24\00:27:35.37
and Ellen White, who were
looking at here right now,
00:27:35.38\00:27:38.00
we're gonna really go in
the detail in her little bit,
00:27:38.01\00:27:39.94
if she falls into
any of the category
00:27:39.95\00:27:41.52
of false prophets any of them,
00:27:41.53\00:27:43.60
then we got to reject her.
00:27:43.61\00:27:44.86
But let me, let me
throw this out here right now.
00:27:44.87\00:27:47.25
If we come to the conclusion
00:27:47.26\00:27:49.05
that Ellen White
is a false prophet,
00:27:49.06\00:27:50.71
I've got a challenge for you
and I got a question for you,
00:27:50.72\00:27:53.07
if not her then who?
00:27:53.08\00:27:57.47
Because remember
we're not looking,
00:27:57.48\00:27:58.50
we're trying to
determine about whether or not
00:27:58.51\00:28:00.35
there's gonna be
prophet in the last days,
00:28:00.36\00:28:01.65
especially around 1844,
00:28:01.66\00:28:03.07
that timeframe
leading God's church,
00:28:03.08\00:28:04.22
we're not trying to
determine whether or not
00:28:04.23\00:28:05.60
there is gonna be
one, because there is,
00:28:05.61\00:28:06.79
we have it established in
the Bible a pattern, right,
00:28:06.80\00:28:09.66
the biblical pattern,
and God is consistent, right.
00:28:09.67\00:28:11.47
God doesn't change He says,
00:28:11.48\00:28:12.81
and so, if we say, okay,
00:28:12.82\00:28:14.71
reject her she is not a prophet,
00:28:14.72\00:28:16.45
forget it, she is not a prophet.
00:28:16.46\00:28:18.60
I'm gonna do that, I really am,
00:28:18.61\00:28:19.97
I'm willing to
say no, she is not,
00:28:19.98\00:28:21.06
if I found a reason
that I would believe and say,
00:28:21.07\00:28:23.14
oh, she wrote this totally
against the Bible forget it,
00:28:23.15\00:28:25.99
she is not a prophet.
00:28:26.00\00:28:27.06
I'm willing to
do that, no problem,
00:28:27.07\00:28:28.83
but if it's not
her then who is it?
00:28:28.84\00:28:32.79
If is it not her then who?
00:28:32.80\00:28:33.77
So that's interesting
question to be thinking about,
00:28:33.78\00:28:36.36
we're not, we're
no longer looking here
00:28:36.37\00:28:37.81
as to whether or not
we're going to have one,
00:28:37.82\00:28:39.47
but who is going to be.
00:28:39.48\00:28:40.81
And so right now
we've already covered that,
00:28:40.82\00:28:42.54
the fact that
so called prophecy,
00:28:42.55\00:28:44.21
we're in and around her day
00:28:44.22\00:28:45.97
that I believe we were
raised up by the enemy.
00:28:45.98\00:28:48.46
Those so called prophets,
00:28:48.47\00:28:50.53
none of them wrote about
Daniel 8:14, none of them.
00:28:50.54\00:28:54.65
And so what we're
gonna be looking at now
00:28:54.66\00:28:56.16
is some of the identifying
00:28:56.17\00:28:57.14
characteristics
of a true prophet.
00:28:57.15\00:28:58.81
In the next text
we're gonna go to is one,
00:28:58.82\00:29:00.44
everyone you should be
able to quote from memory,
00:29:00.45\00:29:02.21
so there's gonna
be pressure on you,
00:29:02.22\00:29:03.19
we call one of
you quote from memory,
00:29:03.20\00:29:04.79
now I'm just
kidding I won't do that.
00:29:04.80\00:29:06.18
Isaiah 8:20,
Spirit of Prophecy here,
00:29:06.19\00:29:08.91
number 11 in our
study, Isaiah 8:20,
00:29:08.92\00:29:10.77
does anybody know
what it says right off?
00:29:10.78\00:29:12.72
To the word, to the
law, to the testimony, yeah.
00:29:12.73\00:29:18.43
There is no light in them,
00:29:18.44\00:29:20.24
to the law unto the testimony,
00:29:20.25\00:29:21.47
they're speaking,
now I'm quoting this word
00:29:21.48\00:29:23.34
is because there
is no light in them.
00:29:23.35\00:29:25.39
So in order for a
prophet to be a prophet,
00:29:25.40\00:29:26.93
they have to
speak according to what
00:29:26.94\00:29:29.52
the law and the testimony.
00:29:29.53\00:29:30.50
What is the law
and the testimony?
00:29:30.51\00:29:31.54
Or you could say the
law and the prophets,
00:29:31.55\00:29:33.22
what is that? Yeah,
when Isaiah is writing it,
00:29:33.23\00:29:36.61
was he talking
about specifically though,
00:29:36.62\00:29:38.69
you have to agree
with the Old Testament
00:29:38.70\00:29:41.89
as well as the New, we know
its the New Testament as well,
00:29:41.90\00:29:43.50
but when Isaiah is writing this,
00:29:43.51\00:29:44.51
he says, hey, if we don't speak
00:29:44.52\00:29:46.50
according to the law
into the testimonies.
00:29:46.51\00:29:48.59
So if someone
comes along as a prophet
00:29:48.60\00:29:50.19
and they
disagree with the Bible,
00:29:50.20\00:29:52.15
can he be a prophet?
00:29:52.16\00:29:53.76
No, so they have to
agree with the Bible,
00:29:53.77\00:29:55.43
they have to be
pointing people to the Bible
00:29:55.44\00:29:57.03
and I want to
bring up one of the,
00:29:57.04\00:29:58.01
and one of the
Ellen White's quotes here
00:29:58.02\00:29:59.33
that I think is
one of my favorite ones
00:29:59.34\00:30:01.05
that especially
in our day and age.
00:30:01.06\00:30:03.11
And I have to try to
control myself at this point
00:30:03.12\00:30:04.80
because I get very
excited when I read this
00:30:04.81\00:30:07.59
due to the things that are
going on both in the church
00:30:07.60\00:30:10.27
and in many
churches around the world.
00:30:10.28\00:30:13.68
You've heard
that the term called
00:30:13.69\00:30:14.85
"Higher
Criticism?" Well, people says,
00:30:14.86\00:30:17.20
well, you know,
the Bible says this
00:30:17.21\00:30:19.67
but you can't
really believe that,
00:30:19.68\00:30:21.18
you know, one of the popular
ones is the whole Quail story,
00:30:21.19\00:30:23.78
you know, you read there
00:30:23.79\00:30:24.90
and when the children
of Israel in the Quail
00:30:24.91\00:30:26.77
or flying above the earth
like three feet above the earth,
00:30:26.78\00:30:29.13
and the critics say, well,
if you have that many quail
00:30:29.14\00:30:31.87
that means
every person of that--
00:30:31.88\00:30:35.27
each one of the children
of Israel in order to eat
00:30:35.28\00:30:37.01
the quail not
have a big major hazard
00:30:37.02\00:30:40.63
there with unclean
things and diseases
00:30:40.64\00:30:42.42
and things like that
with all these birds.
00:30:42.43\00:30:43.81
They would have to eat
like 700 quail a day per person
00:30:43.82\00:30:46.10
and something like
that is outrageous.
00:30:46.11\00:30:47.47
So it's impossible
and critics will say,
00:30:47.48\00:30:49.53
well, the Bible writers
were exaggerating that story,
00:30:49.54\00:30:52.14
you know, it's higher criticism,
00:30:52.15\00:30:53.75
they are criticizing the Bible.
00:30:53.76\00:30:55.16
And then they lead from there,
00:30:55.17\00:30:56.82
by the way that does
have a good answer to that.
00:30:56.83\00:30:58.12
You had to come to
Life to our homiletics class
00:30:58.13\00:31:00.69
to find out what
the answer to that is.
00:31:00.70\00:31:02.33
And so you guys are over
here but they will take things
00:31:02.34\00:31:04.98
like that the stories
and they will put doubt
00:31:04.99\00:31:06.93
in people's mind
about the Bible, right.
00:31:06.94\00:31:08.97
People do that today.
00:31:08.98\00:31:09.95
They start putting
doubts in people's mind
00:31:09.96\00:31:11.19
like one gospel says there
were two angels at the tomb.
00:31:11.20\00:31:13.42
Another gospel say there
was one angle at the tomb.
00:31:13.43\00:31:15.03
Have you heard that argument?
00:31:15.04\00:31:16.01
So therefore you get
throughout the whole Bible.
00:31:16.02\00:31:18.25
You've heard
things like this, right?
00:31:18.26\00:31:19.85
So Ellen White
commenting on this thing.
00:31:19.86\00:31:22.21
She says it better than I could
00:31:22.22\00:31:23.57
and I would like to
say with a little passion.
00:31:23.58\00:31:25.11
She says, "Cling to your Bible
00:31:25.12\00:31:26.60
as it reads and
stop your criticism
00:31:26.61\00:31:29.10
in regard to its
validity and obey the word,
00:31:29.11\00:31:31.71
and then it says, and
not one of you will be lost."
00:31:31.72\00:31:34.72
That is the work of a prophet
00:31:34.73\00:31:36.54
In that one
sense, that's the great
00:31:36.55\00:31:37.75
heeds work of the prophet.
00:31:37.76\00:31:38.79
I wish our pastors
would have the same work.
00:31:38.80\00:31:41.02
I wish our
preachers, and our leaders,
00:31:41.03\00:31:42.21
and our elders, and
our churches would do
00:31:42.22\00:31:43.77
the same thing that
she is saying right here
00:31:43.78\00:31:45.48
and help people to
quit criticizing the Bible,
00:31:45.49\00:31:48.91
and just obey the word and
not one of us will be lost.
00:31:48.92\00:31:52.57
So remember Isaiah 8:20
00:31:52.58\00:31:55.28
"To the law and to the testimony
00:31:55.29\00:31:56.91
If they speak not
according to this word,
00:31:56.92\00:31:58.12
there is no light in them.
00:31:58.13\00:31:59.15
Does she speak
according to the word,
00:31:59.16\00:32:00.42
according to her own confession?
00:32:00.43\00:32:02.33
Yeah, listen to the Bible.
00:32:02.34\00:32:04.96
Do what the Bible says and
not one of you will be lost,
00:32:04.97\00:32:06.67
quit criticizing, quit thinking
00:32:06.68\00:32:07.91
you are smarter than God.
00:32:07.92\00:32:09.38
Do you know any
time you study the Bible
00:32:09.39\00:32:12.19
as we are doing
in our studies here.
00:32:12.20\00:32:15.20
If you find something
that seems not to be agree,
00:32:15.21\00:32:19.00
you've seen
something it seems contradict?
00:32:19.01\00:32:20.80
You know, the Bible
doesn't have a problem, you do.
00:32:20.81\00:32:24.38
Just because I don't understand,
00:32:24.39\00:32:25.40
it doesn't make the Bible wrong,
00:32:25.41\00:32:26.41
you know, how we
are humans, right.
00:32:26.42\00:32:28.08
If it is something
I can't understand,
00:32:28.09\00:32:29.38
or I cannot explain then
therefore it must be wrong.
00:32:29.39\00:32:33.62
Yeah, because, of course,
00:32:33.63\00:32:34.60
we are the smartest
creatures on earth, aren't we?
00:32:34.61\00:32:37.64
I love it that God says in
First Corinthians Chapter 1
00:32:37.65\00:32:41.00
that the wisdom of
men is foolishness to God.
00:32:41.01\00:32:44.13
it's foolishness and so
let us just accept the Bible
00:32:44.14\00:32:47.52
it is the prophet tells
us and if we will do that,
00:32:47.53\00:32:49.83
we won't be lost.
You want to be saved?
00:32:49.84\00:32:52.36
Simply accept the Bible.
00:32:52.37\00:32:53.85
So, you know, what
she is saying there right
00:32:53.86\00:32:56.62
throughout evolution, because
the Bible doesn't teach it.
00:32:56.63\00:33:00.54
Now our next one,
Jeremiah 28 verse 9,
00:33:00.55\00:33:02.66
Jeremiah Chapter 28 and verse 9.
00:33:02.67\00:33:08.25
The next part of
identifying a prophet
00:33:08.26\00:33:11.55
is the thing they
prophesy must come to pass,
00:33:11.56\00:33:15.55
Isaiah, Jeremiah,
and we are looking at
00:33:15.56\00:33:18.67
Chapter 28 verse 9,
00:33:18.68\00:33:21.67
and Mike or-- Jessica,
00:33:21.68\00:33:28.40
Jessica you read
it for me, I am sorry.
00:33:28.41\00:33:30.80
Forgot your name
there for a second, Jessica.
00:33:30.81\00:33:33.79
Jeremiah 28 and
verse 9, go ahead.
00:33:33.80\00:33:36.46
"So a prophet who predicts peace
00:33:36.47\00:33:38.61
must carry the burden of proof.
00:33:38.62\00:33:41.34
Only when his predictions
come true can it be known
00:33:41.35\00:33:44.70
that he is
really from the LORD."
00:33:44.71\00:33:47.02
That's a good translation,
I don't know what that one is
00:33:47.03\00:33:49.11
but that said pretty well.
00:33:49.12\00:33:50.22
In King James, it says
00:33:50.23\00:33:52.25
"When the word of
prophet comes to pass
00:33:52.26\00:33:54.56
then you know, then
shall the prophet be known,
00:33:54.57\00:33:57.80
that the Lord
has truly sent him."
00:33:57.81\00:34:00.02
So in order for
to be a true prophet
00:34:00.03\00:34:01.49
according to the Bible
they had to predict things
00:34:01.50\00:34:03.59
and those things they predict
must come to pass, right.
00:34:03.60\00:34:07.96
So if someone want to
give a timeline prophecy
00:34:07.97\00:34:10.19
or someone give a prophecy
00:34:10.20\00:34:11.51
and the prophecy
doesn't come to pass,
00:34:11.52\00:34:13.20
are they saint of God?
00:34:13.21\00:34:15.74
No, the answer is
obviously no, they can't be.
00:34:15.75\00:34:17.38
So the things they
have, they prophesy,
00:34:17.39\00:34:18.84
the things they
predict must come to pass,
00:34:18.85\00:34:21.17
it must take place.
00:34:21.18\00:34:22.66
So does Ellen White
fit inside this category
00:34:22.67\00:34:26.29
that mean-- Can you
look at the writings
00:34:26.30\00:34:27.77
that she has written, and say
00:34:27.78\00:34:29.19
oh, yeah, yeah. She
predicted these things
00:34:29.20\00:34:31.03
and these things came be
pass that she have things
00:34:31.04\00:34:32.49
that she
predicted that are true,
00:34:32.50\00:34:34.80
they come to
pass, and that's what
00:34:34.81\00:34:36.37
we're going to looking at now.
00:34:36.38\00:34:37.35
I'm gonna show you
one of them right now.
00:34:37.36\00:34:38.66
It's a good one.
00:34:38.67\00:34:40.01
In 1902, Ellen White
warned that San Francisco
00:34:40.02\00:34:42.93
and Oakland would
be visited by the Lord
00:34:42.94\00:34:44.51
because they were becoming
like Sodom and Gomorrah.
00:34:44.52\00:34:47.33
So she says in her days,
00:34:47.34\00:34:48.88
she looks at Sodom and Gomorrah
00:34:48.89\00:34:50.80
and that she looks at actually
San Francisco and Oakland
00:34:50.81\00:34:53.36
and she says, oh,
things are getting bad.
00:34:53.37\00:34:55.50
Can you imagine
what she must say today
00:34:55.51\00:34:57.25
But she says God has shown me
00:34:57.26\00:34:58.27
that He has
getting ready to visit them
00:34:58.28\00:34:59.56
because of this,
and she has some visions
00:34:59.57\00:35:02.15
about what was going to happen.
00:35:02.16\00:35:03.68
Four years later, four
years after this in 1906,
00:35:03.69\00:35:06.97
the terrifying rumble
of an earthquake shattered
00:35:06.98\00:35:08.80
the early morning
silence of April 18 at 5:15 AM.
00:35:08.81\00:35:12.17
The quake lasted only a minute
00:35:12.18\00:35:14.20
but cause the
worst natural disaster
00:35:14.21\00:35:15.89
in the nation's history.
00:35:15.90\00:35:17.04
Modern analysis
estimates it registered 8.25
00:35:17.05\00:35:20.28
on the Richter scale
that they had on right.
00:35:20.29\00:35:22.37
By comparison, the
quake that hit San Francisco
00:35:22.38\00:35:24.60
on October 17 in 1989 that
destroyed the city pretty bad,
00:35:24.61\00:35:27.87
right, was only 6.7.
00:35:27.88\00:35:30.46
And here's what I think
is interesting about this,
00:35:30.47\00:35:32.49
I was reading a book one time,
00:35:32.50\00:35:33.54
it's about on the life
of Ellen White a little bit
00:35:33.55\00:35:36.40
and it gives a
description of her.
00:35:36.41\00:35:38.09
Whenever this took place,
00:35:38.10\00:35:39.53
she got her carriage in a buggy
00:35:39.54\00:35:41.32
and went there to San Francisco
00:35:41.33\00:35:44.23
I believe, she
went to San Francisco
00:35:44.24\00:35:45.84
and as they took her around
that she saw the destruction,
00:35:45.85\00:35:47.90
she kept same things like
this is exactly what I saw,
00:35:47.91\00:35:49.76
this is what God
showed me, this is exact--
00:35:49.77\00:35:51.55
And she had been describing it
00:35:51.56\00:35:52.53
for right four
years prior to this.
00:35:52.54\00:35:53.51
She was explaining to
the people to the world
00:35:53.52\00:35:56.27
basically saying
hey, they need to repent,
00:35:56.28\00:35:57.93
they need to turn
back because if they don't,
00:35:57.94\00:35:59.47
they were going to be visited.
00:35:59.48\00:36:00.66
And she was seeing these things
00:36:00.67\00:36:01.77
what happened and it happened.
00:36:01.78\00:36:03.95
So that's just one example
00:36:03.96\00:36:04.93
We can go
through, I can give you
00:36:04.94\00:36:06.08
one after another
after another of the things
00:36:06.09\00:36:07.73
that she said what
happened that took place.
00:36:07.74\00:36:09.78
Some other things she
wrote about health and more,
00:36:09.79\00:36:11.18
I think some of
them may on the slide,
00:36:11.19\00:36:12.58
if they are not, in
case, then I go ahead
00:36:12.59\00:36:14.64
and give you a
couple of descriptions.
00:36:14.65\00:36:16.43
It was in her day
that she said that
00:36:16.44\00:36:19.65
cigarette smoking
was a very terrible,
00:36:19.66\00:36:22.78
terrible malignant--
people who smokes cigarettes
00:36:22.79\00:36:27.68
they didn't see
the affects right away,
00:36:27.69\00:36:29.60
but it was because
of the way it worked
00:36:29.61\00:36:32.01
it was a slow malignant thing,
00:36:32.02\00:36:34.54
in another words, it
will kill you slowly,
00:36:34.55\00:36:36.11
and I'm impair
for just a little bit
00:36:36.12\00:36:37.35
because I don't remember
exactly how she has written.
00:36:37.36\00:36:39.34
It's a poison, it's right,
00:36:39.35\00:36:40.63
it's a poison and
it kills people, right.
00:36:40.64\00:36:43.00
Now you and I are
saying that's not a Revelation.
00:36:43.01\00:36:46.79
Really, is that a Revelation?
00:36:46.80\00:36:47.90
I mean, it's like in the 60s,
00:36:47.91\00:36:48.88
they started to call,
I believe coffin nail,
00:36:48.89\00:36:50.41
because you smokes cigarettes
00:36:50.42\00:36:51.39
you're gonna
kill yourself, right.
00:36:51.40\00:36:53.80
That was going
on but in her day,
00:36:53.81\00:36:56.35
doctors were
prescribing cigarette smoking
00:36:56.36\00:36:59.60
for people with
asthma, it's good for you.
00:36:59.61\00:37:02.08
Smoke a cigarette
and you feel better,
00:37:02.09\00:37:03.08
it will help your asthma.
00:37:03.09\00:37:04.06
The smoke gets in and
cleanse everything out, right.
00:37:04.07\00:37:05.63
It was killing people becoming
00:37:05.64\00:37:06.91
addicted to
cigarettes and killing people.
00:37:06.92\00:37:08.56
And so she was
saying even though
00:37:08.57\00:37:09.70
science was saying in her day,
00:37:09.71\00:37:10.98
oh, no, no, no, no, smoke
cigarette is good for you.
00:37:10.99\00:37:14.40
She was saying no,
it's not good for you,
00:37:14.41\00:37:15.87
it's killing you.
And then it was like in,
00:37:15.88\00:37:17.67
it was in the year
1956, I believe was the year,
00:37:17.68\00:37:21.46
when the American
Heart Lung Association
00:37:21.47\00:37:23.00
decided that cigarette
smoking was a causative
00:37:23.01\00:37:24.67
factor for
cancer. Science catches up
00:37:24.68\00:37:27.60
with the prophet with
the third grade education.
00:37:27.61\00:37:30.15
Okay, let us go on here,
00:37:30.16\00:37:32.23
Deuteronomy
Chapter 13 verse 1, 2, 3
00:37:32.24\00:37:34.21
is another
identifying mark of a prophet.
00:37:34.22\00:37:36.45
Deuteronomy
Chapter 13 verse 1, 2, 3.
00:37:36.46\00:37:39.27
Genesis, Exodus,
Leviticus, Numbers,
00:37:41.14\00:37:43.58
Deuteronomy 13:1, 2, 3.
00:37:43.59\00:37:48.05
Who is going to
read that one for me?
00:37:48.06\00:37:50.07
All right, Miss Gloria.
00:37:50.08\00:37:51.57
I am glad you
volunteered, all right?
00:37:51.58\00:37:54.08
Get that microphone
there and get them ready.
00:37:54.09\00:37:56.20
Verse 1, 2, 3, go ahead.
00:37:56.21\00:37:59.35
"If there arises
among you a prophet
00:37:59.36\00:38:02.01
or a dreamer of dreams,
00:38:02.02\00:38:05.15
and he gives you
a sign or a wonder,
00:38:05.16\00:38:09.15
and the sign or the
wonder comes to pass,
00:38:09.16\00:38:13.37
of which he
spoke to you, saying,
00:38:13.38\00:38:18.73
Let us go after other gods
00:38:18.74\00:38:21.35
which you have not
known and let us serve them,
00:38:21.36\00:38:26.80
you shall not listen to
the words of that prophet
00:38:26.81\00:38:30.05
or that dreamer of dreams,
00:38:30.06\00:38:33.29
for the LORD your
God is testing you
00:38:33.30\00:38:36.92
to know whether you
love the LORD your God
00:38:36.93\00:38:42.60
with all your heart
and with all your soul."
00:38:42.61\00:38:46.03
Fascinating, in
other words, it says,
00:38:46.04\00:38:47.85
okay, this is how you
are going to determine
00:38:47.86\00:38:49.64
a prophet whether or
not God has sent them.
00:38:49.65\00:38:51.55
If someone comes along
and they make a prophecy,
00:38:51.56\00:38:53.76
a prediction and
it comes to pass.
00:38:53.77\00:38:55.37
Does that make
him a prophet of God.
00:38:55.38\00:38:57.09
The Bible says not
necessarily, right.
00:38:57.10\00:38:59.94
So what we're
reading here, it says,
00:38:59.95\00:39:00.93
okay, what they
said comes to pass.
00:39:00.94\00:39:02.58
It actually does
take place but now,
00:39:02.59\00:39:04.72
now after takes
place, they are telling you
00:39:04.73\00:39:06.19
to go after other
Gods and do things,
00:39:06.20\00:39:07.81
break the commandments of God,
00:39:07.82\00:39:09.57
then God hasn't sent them.
00:39:09.58\00:39:10.92
You know, of all the
lists you could put up there
00:39:10.93\00:39:13.81
of the so-called
prophet around that time frame
00:39:13.82\00:39:15.80
that rose up in 1844,
00:39:15.81\00:39:17.51
not one of them promoted
keeping all Ten Commandments.
00:39:17.52\00:39:23.91
So, yes, they
did, no they didn't.
00:39:23.92\00:39:25.67
Because not any of
those except for Ellen White
00:39:25.68\00:39:28.75
promoted keeping
the Seventh-day Sabbath
00:39:28.76\00:39:30.65
which is the fourth commandment
00:39:30.66\00:39:32.13
and so according
to the Bible here,
00:39:32.14\00:39:33.86
we've already
covered these things,
00:39:33.87\00:39:34.84
that's why I'm able
to say this so freely.
00:39:34.85\00:39:35.93
Now I don't have
to go back and prove
00:39:35.94\00:39:37.09
the Seventh-day
Sabbath and prove we ought
00:39:37.10\00:39:38.34
to keep the Ten
Commandments because
00:39:38.35\00:39:39.38
the Bible proves
that in our earlier study.
00:39:39.39\00:39:41.42
So if you are
watching this study right now,
00:39:41.43\00:39:42.65
it's first time
you are watching us,
00:39:42.66\00:39:43.76
you need to back and
do the previous lessons,
00:39:43.77\00:39:46.62
so you will
understand why I am saying,
00:39:46.63\00:39:47.99
what I am saying at this point?
00:39:48.00\00:39:49.58
And even the Bible
says, that if they speak
00:39:49.59\00:39:53.86
and they have a prophecy
and the prophecy comes to pass,
00:39:53.87\00:39:57.32
if they try to tell
you to follow other Gods,
00:39:57.33\00:40:00.70
which it breaks
which commandment?
00:40:00.71\00:40:02.23
Well, the very first one,
00:40:03.54\00:40:04.51
"Thou shalt have no
other gods before me."
00:40:04.52\00:40:06.06
All right and they tell
you to go-- and the second one
00:40:06.07\00:40:08.32
we had grave and
images and you're bowing down
00:40:08.33\00:40:10.14
and doing that
kind of thing, right.
00:40:10.15\00:40:11.39
Don't listen to them.
00:40:11.40\00:40:13.18
If they try to get you
to break the commandments
00:40:13.19\00:40:14.58
even if what they says is true.
00:40:14.59\00:40:16.08
I am seeing that happens
even in my personal life.
00:40:16.09\00:40:18.75
You know, this person is
on TV and they prophesied
00:40:18.76\00:40:20.94
this would happen and it
happened just like they said.
00:40:20.95\00:40:23.22
He must be a prophet of God,
let's go follow them, right.
00:40:23.23\00:40:25.52
And so people say, oh,
this must be a prophet,
00:40:25.53\00:40:27.91
that's not how you
determine a prophet.
00:40:27.92\00:40:29.76
That's one way to
determine a prophet.
00:40:31.73\00:40:33.76
The second thing here
also is they must also point us
00:40:33.77\00:40:36.46
back to the word of
God, you know, many--
00:40:36.47\00:40:38.89
you think of the people
that, it's funny to me when I,
00:40:38.90\00:40:41.69
when I think of
prophets in our day,
00:40:41.70\00:40:43.45
and you think people talking
about the Nostradamus guy right.
00:40:43.46\00:40:46.16
And they take his writings
00:40:46.17\00:40:47.20
and they take all
his convoluted things,
00:40:47.21\00:40:48.43
they pulled out and
say, oh we prophesied this
00:40:48.44\00:40:49.64
and prophesied that.
00:40:49.65\00:40:50.70
People are so happy to accept
00:40:50.71\00:40:52.29
someone as a prophet who is not,
00:40:52.30\00:40:54.72
because a true prophet of God
will not only be pointing us,
00:40:54.73\00:40:58.08
to things that's
going to take place,
00:40:58.09\00:41:00.86
it's going to happen,
but they also point you
00:41:00.87\00:41:02.59
back to the
scriptures, to the word of God.
00:41:02.60\00:41:04.52
And people aren't comfortable
with that part of it, right.
00:41:04.53\00:41:07.61
All through history
people have been comfortable
00:41:07.62\00:41:08.79
with prophets
except when they say hey,
00:41:08.80\00:41:10.05
you know, what? You
are living a life of sin.
00:41:10.06\00:41:11.99
A case in point was one prophet
00:41:12.00\00:41:13.75
we looked at
being John the Baptist.
00:41:13.76\00:41:15.77
You know, the
John the Baptist had--
00:41:15.78\00:41:16.93
he was a prophet
and then he told Herod,
00:41:16.94\00:41:18.51
he said, what
you are living in sin
00:41:18.52\00:41:20.05
so what happened to the John.
00:41:20.06\00:41:21.82
He had his head
removed that's right Mike,
00:41:21.83\00:41:23.39
and so true prophets of God
00:41:23.40\00:41:25.09
will not only be
making prophecies
00:41:25.10\00:41:26.69
that's come in to pass,
00:41:26.70\00:41:27.94
but they also call
people back to the Bible
00:41:27.95\00:41:29.97
and so you have
that two fold thing
00:41:29.98\00:41:31.32
found here in Deuteronomy 13
00:41:31.33\00:41:32.37
if they tell you to turn
away from God in any way.
00:41:32.38\00:41:34.46
In the word of God, I
haven't sent them He says.
00:41:34.47\00:41:37.32
Now let's look at
another identifying mark here
00:41:37.33\00:41:39.33
in First John
Chapter 4 and verses 1 and 2.
00:41:39.34\00:41:42.94
First John 4:1 and 2,
and this is going to be here
00:41:42.95\00:41:46.60
about they had to uphold Christ,
00:41:46.61\00:41:49.11
uplift Jesus as the Messiah.
00:41:49.12\00:41:51.24
So, First John
Chapter 4 verse 1 and 2.
00:41:51.25\00:41:54.77
Tom, would you like
to read that for us,
00:41:54.78\00:41:56.15
First John 4 verses 1 and 2?
00:41:56.16\00:41:58.17
"Beloved, do not
believe every spirit,
00:42:01.87\00:42:04.83
but test the spirits
whether they are of God,
00:42:04.84\00:42:08.38
because many false prophets
have gone out into the world.
00:42:08.39\00:42:12.69
By this you know
the Spirit of God,
00:42:12.70\00:42:15.83
every spirit that confesses
00:42:15.84\00:42:17.50
that Jesus Christ has
come into the flesh is of God."
00:42:17.51\00:42:21.98
So, is that mean
that everybody that claims
00:42:21.99\00:42:24.31
that Jesus is the
Christ come into the flesh
00:42:24.32\00:42:26.02
that makes him a prophet.
00:42:26.03\00:42:27.76
It almost sounds like
that, otherwise word, isn't it?
00:42:27.77\00:42:29.94
Because it says, it says,
00:42:29.95\00:42:32.30
every spirit that confesses
that Jesus is the Christ
00:42:32.31\00:42:35.20
in the flesh is of God.
00:42:35.21\00:42:36.70
So if the Spirit of
Prophecies Jesus Christ
00:42:36.71\00:42:38.79
is in the flesh He is of God.
00:42:38.80\00:42:40.71
John, he was addressing
something was going on his day.
00:42:40.72\00:42:43.40
You know, there were
people claiming that,
00:42:43.41\00:42:44.70
that they were following
God or prophets or whatever,
00:42:44.71\00:42:46.89
but they were claiming
00:42:46.90\00:42:48.40
that Jesus hadn't
actually come in the flesh,
00:42:48.41\00:42:49.98
they were claiming
that he wasn't actually God,
00:42:49.99\00:42:51.53
different things
like that, right.
00:42:51.54\00:42:52.91
And he was dressing that.
00:42:52.92\00:42:53.89
They don't claim
that he is actually God,
00:42:53.90\00:42:55.67
they just rejected Him outright.
00:42:55.68\00:42:56.65
This is just one of
the identifying marks.
00:42:56.66\00:42:58.39
You know, they also have to,
00:42:58.40\00:42:59.37
also be by the
word to the testimony,
00:42:59.38\00:43:00.87
they had to speak
according to this, right.
00:43:00.88\00:43:02.59
Their prophecies
have to come to pass.
00:43:02.60\00:43:04.66
They if-- even if the
prophecies come to the pass,
00:43:04.67\00:43:06.42
they point you away from
obeying God's commandments
00:43:06.43\00:43:08.13
so they can't be sent from God
00:43:08.14\00:43:09.77
and John you simply
gives a another one, Tom.
00:43:09.78\00:43:11.74
And this other one that
he gives us is the very fact
00:43:11.75\00:43:13.29
is that they have to
claim that Jesus is the Christ.
00:43:13.30\00:43:15.73
He is the messiah. He
has come in the flesh.
00:43:15.74\00:43:17.82
He didn't, I'm so spiritual
00:43:17.83\00:43:18.80
first coming or
anytime like that.
00:43:18.81\00:43:20.01
He was actually here, he
actually died for our sin,
00:43:20.02\00:43:22.08
they had to uplift Christ.
00:43:22.09\00:43:24.03
And Ellen White also
fits that description,
00:43:24.04\00:43:26.02
one of the best books you
can read on the life on Christ.
00:43:26.03\00:43:28.33
According to the
Library of Congress,
00:43:28.34\00:43:29.68
the librarian works around
understand Library of Congress
00:43:29.69\00:43:32.00
that they say that
the most popular book,
00:43:32.01\00:43:33.61
most checked out book,
00:43:33.62\00:43:34.59
the most popular
book on the life of Christ
00:43:34.60\00:43:36.10
actually is one
called the "Desire of Ages"
00:43:36.11\00:43:38.58
written by Ellen White,
and it's a powerful book.
00:43:38.59\00:43:41.48
It uplifts the life of Christ,
00:43:41.49\00:43:42.89
it's the commentary on the Bible
00:43:42.90\00:43:45.75
and it's a very
powerful insights on that,
00:43:45.76\00:43:47.70
you know, and so
you can get that book
00:43:47.71\00:43:49.37
called the "Desire of
Ages" written by Ellen White
00:43:49.38\00:43:51.37
and test that part of it.
00:43:51.38\00:43:53.60
Does she oppose the scripture,
00:43:53.61\00:43:54.58
does she oppose the Christ.
00:43:54.59\00:43:56.36
You know, I've had many
times talking to the many people
00:43:56.37\00:43:58.70
and right away as soon as
they start hearing this study
00:43:58.71\00:44:01.80
they just, without even
reading they start rejecting.
00:44:01.81\00:44:04.82
You know, they started rejecting
00:44:04.83\00:44:05.81
because it's kind of
feels funny doesn't it
00:44:05.82\00:44:07.23
when you talk about a prophet?
00:44:07.24\00:44:08.63
It feels little funny.
00:44:08.64\00:44:10.14
Anything well, this
is the most strange thing
00:44:10.15\00:44:12.54
but as we given as
we continue through this
00:44:12.55\00:44:14.41
and especially as we
get into the whole teaching
00:44:14.42\00:44:16.85
on the remnant church, you know,
00:44:16.86\00:44:19.73
it's interesting point there
00:44:19.74\00:44:21.27
made in the
remnant church that it says
00:44:21.28\00:44:24.90
in Revelation Chapter
12 and verse 17, right.
00:44:24.91\00:44:29.40
Here they keep the
commandments of God
00:44:29.41\00:44:30.64
and have the,
Testimony of Jesus Christ,
00:44:30.65\00:44:33.38
since he is talking
about the remnant church
00:44:33.39\00:44:34.47
having testimony of Jesus
00:44:34.48\00:44:36.60
and they keep
the ten commandments
00:44:36.61\00:44:37.90
obviously and then you say
00:44:37.91\00:44:39.36
what is this testimony of Jesus
00:44:39.37\00:44:40.79
and do you know
where you go to from there
00:44:40.80\00:44:41.97
Revelation 19:10 and it
says the testimony of Jesus
00:44:41.98\00:44:45.70
is the Spirit of Prophecy
or the gift of prophecy.
00:44:45.71\00:44:48.48
So, when you, when you
00:44:48.49\00:44:50.29
as you're
thinking about these things
00:44:50.30\00:44:51.45
and we're
showing, we shown already
00:44:51.46\00:44:52.73
that God's going to have
definitely have a prophet
00:44:52.74\00:44:54.24
in the last days, right,
00:44:54.25\00:44:55.79
at the end of the 2300
time frame, 2300 day time,
00:44:55.80\00:44:59.14
year of time prophecy in 1844,
00:44:59.15\00:45:01.38
we've shown
that already and then
00:45:01.39\00:45:02.59
when you see this
other half of this
00:45:02.60\00:45:04.08
and you realize that God
also says that His people,
00:45:04.09\00:45:06.55
you know, last days are
going to have a prophet,
00:45:06.56\00:45:08.31
there's a two
fold connection there.
00:45:08.32\00:45:09.99
God's true people is
gonnna have a true prophet
00:45:10.00\00:45:12.18
and also that the
prediction of the prophecy,
00:45:12.19\00:45:14.36
the prophet is going to come up
00:45:14.37\00:45:15.41
at the end of the 2300 days,
00:45:15.42\00:45:16.92
and she fits both of
those, hand in gloves.
00:45:16.93\00:45:19.41
So you're
following where we're going,
00:45:19.42\00:45:20.51
she lifts up Christ.
00:45:20.52\00:45:21.53
the book "Desire of
Ages" there is another one
00:45:21.54\00:45:22.77
called "Steps to
Christ", powerful little book,
00:45:22.78\00:45:25.31
not a big read at all.
00:45:25.32\00:45:26.89
If you want to get
these books by the way,
00:45:26.90\00:45:28.49
and I am going to
talk to the folks at home
00:45:28.50\00:45:29.68
just for a second, If
you like to have these books,
00:45:29.69\00:45:31.51
you can if you go on our
website and send us an email
00:45:31.52\00:45:34.36
or get contact us whatever,
00:45:34.37\00:45:36.25
and you don't have one
of those books you like one,
00:45:36.26\00:45:37.64
I will see what we can do
to get one send out to you
00:45:37.65\00:45:40.00
especially of
the "Step to Christ"
00:45:40.01\00:45:41.50
or even the "Desire of Ages."
00:45:41.51\00:45:43.00
We can-- I am
sure you get it arrange
00:45:43.01\00:45:44.13
you can have one of those books
00:45:44.14\00:45:45.14
if you can't find it.
00:45:45.15\00:45:46.28
You can probably find them,
00:45:46.29\00:45:47.59
you can go to a book store
and get any of those books,
00:45:47.60\00:45:50.55
any Christian no, maybe
not any Christian book store,
00:45:50.56\00:45:53.08
you go to ABC, the
Adventist book store,
00:45:53.09\00:45:54.82
on the Internet, the website
00:45:54.83\00:45:55.88
you can find that on
there, but its powerful book,
00:45:55.89\00:45:57.80
just you go read and
find out more about him.
00:45:57.81\00:46:01.37
You can actually
read those books online.
00:46:01.38\00:46:03.13
If you Google "Desired of Ages"
or Google "Steps to Christ"
00:46:03.14\00:46:05.60
you can find those
online and read there.
00:46:05.61\00:46:07.51
So I've done myself.
00:46:07.52\00:46:08.67
Now let's look at the
next identifying mark here
00:46:08.68\00:46:10.45
of the true
characteristic of a prophet.
00:46:10.46\00:46:12.90
Numbers Chapter 12 and verse 6.
00:46:12.91\00:46:14.80
Numbers is in the Old Testament,
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus,
00:46:14.81\00:46:18.72
Numbers Chapter 12 and verse 6.
00:46:19.96\00:46:23.26
Roberto, would you
like to read that for us?
00:46:25.06\00:46:26.94
"Then I said, Hear now my words,
00:46:29.64\00:46:34.10
is there a prophet among you,
00:46:34.11\00:46:36.98
I the Lord make myself
known to him in a vision,
00:46:36.99\00:46:42.48
I speak unto him in a dream."
00:46:42.49\00:46:46.22
So, so God says
if there is a prophet
00:46:46.23\00:46:47.76
going to rise among you.
00:46:47.77\00:46:48.74
I'm going to
have prophet rise up.
00:46:48.75\00:46:50.26
I am going to speak to
them in visions and dreams,
00:46:50.27\00:46:53.01
and in the context,
this is pretty interesting
00:46:53.02\00:46:54.68
because it's a time
00:46:54.69\00:46:55.66
when Mariam and Aaron
was complaining to Moses,
00:46:55.67\00:46:58.47
you know, and there was a
kind a coveting his position
00:46:58.48\00:47:00.39
or whatever and they
were complaining about him
00:47:00.40\00:47:03.04
and God says, hey, a prophet,
00:47:03.05\00:47:05.26
I know there is a prophet up,
00:47:05.27\00:47:06.53
I am going to speak to
them in visions and dreams.
00:47:06.54\00:47:08.43
But not so with my
servant, Moses, he says
00:47:08.44\00:47:09.99
in the next verse
because of my servant, Moses,
00:47:10.00\00:47:12.64
who is faithful on my
house I am going to speak to him
00:47:12.65\00:47:14.51
mouth to mouth, so
there is an exception there
00:47:14.52\00:47:17.01
where God actually
spoke to Moses mouth to mouth,
00:47:17.02\00:47:18.94
but he says for
the rest of the people,
00:47:18.95\00:47:20.19
for the rest of
the things what we saw,
00:47:20.20\00:47:21.89
that the prophecy
we're talking about here,
00:47:21.90\00:47:23.90
for the rest of them.
00:47:23.91\00:47:25.52
I am going to speak to
them in visions and dreams.
00:47:25.53\00:47:28.42
And as you study more
on the life of Ellen White,
00:47:28.43\00:47:31.73
you will find out this,
you study little bit about her,
00:47:31.74\00:47:33.32
you will find out that's exactly
00:47:33.33\00:47:34.73
how God spoke to her
in visions and dreams.
00:47:34.74\00:47:37.44
So there was a lot of
skeptics around her day.
00:47:37.45\00:47:39.36
I am just going to
tell you some stories.
00:47:39.37\00:47:40.73
And you have to
go and look about
00:47:40.74\00:47:41.94
if you want to find out.
00:47:41.95\00:47:42.92
But in her day there
were lots of skeptics around
00:47:42.93\00:47:45.00
and so some of
these guys were skeptic,
00:47:45.01\00:47:46.40
kept saying, oh, this
is all fake, its all phony,
00:47:46.41\00:47:48.78
and they had
these doctors and nurses
00:47:48.79\00:47:50.04
who choose to
this place at one time
00:47:50.05\00:47:51.28
she went into vision.
00:47:51.29\00:47:52.95
And so the skeptic was invited,
00:47:52.96\00:47:54.61
this doctor was
invited to come forward
00:47:54.62\00:47:56.07
and investigate it right,
and so she is in this vision,
00:47:56.08\00:47:59.57
she is, her eyes are
like open and he test,
00:47:59.58\00:48:02.11
looks at her,
she is not breathing,
00:48:02.12\00:48:04.16
and this is for a long
amount of time, you know,
00:48:04.17\00:48:05.44
he like they hold candles
up to her nose and you know,
00:48:05.45\00:48:08.39
put a glass up there
to see if it fogs it up,
00:48:08.40\00:48:10.01
nothing she is
not even breathing,
00:48:10.02\00:48:11.38
she is moving her
arms and doing things
00:48:11.39\00:48:12.84
and supernatural strength
00:48:12.85\00:48:14.08
like they tried to
hold her arms still,
00:48:14.09\00:48:15.10
she still move past
and things like that,
00:48:15.11\00:48:16.41
watches in vision
and what's interesting
00:48:16.42\00:48:18.78
when you look at the
historical record of this.
00:48:18.79\00:48:20.22
This was done not with people
00:48:20.23\00:48:22.09
that were church
members and saying oh,
00:48:22.10\00:48:23.63
she is a prophet.
00:48:23.64\00:48:24.61
These were done with people
00:48:24.62\00:48:25.59
that were
skeptical, not believing.
00:48:25.60\00:48:27.13
And then the one guy
I remember the story,
00:48:27.14\00:48:29.00
I remember the details of this.
00:48:29.01\00:48:31.38
We will get to details of this
00:48:31.39\00:48:32.43
when we do this class
on the Spirit of Prophecy.
00:48:32.44\00:48:34.45
So if you want to
hear the details of this
00:48:34.46\00:48:35.66
and find out all this,
the names and everything,
00:48:35.67\00:48:38.23
you have to come to
Life at our next semester
00:48:38.24\00:48:40.64
and go through the
Spirit of Prophecy class
00:48:40.65\00:48:43.18
like these guys are all doing.
00:48:43.19\00:48:44.42
But what was interesting
about it was this guy
00:48:44.43\00:48:46.72
after just a few
minutes of looking out her
00:48:46.73\00:48:48.30
and one of the
vision she had, he ran out,
00:48:48.31\00:48:50.75
far as he goes,
he said, you know,
00:48:50.76\00:48:51.75
he didn't want
anything to do with it,
00:48:51.76\00:48:52.79
because it scared him that much.
00:48:52.80\00:48:54.23
She was so skeptical and he
thought it was just a put on,
00:48:54.24\00:48:56.24
but then he
realized that they were real.
00:48:56.25\00:48:58.56
And so many times she had
over-- had thousands of visions,
00:48:58.57\00:49:01.38
you know, literally like
a couple of thousand visions
00:49:01.39\00:49:03.28
if the numbers
are correct in my head
00:49:03.29\00:49:05.43
and all these visions
00:49:05.44\00:49:06.77
that she had
differ to different times.
00:49:06.78\00:49:08.86
She would have revelations
00:49:08.87\00:49:09.84
and then she would write
things that would just be
00:49:09.85\00:49:11.90
deep scholarly works.
00:49:11.91\00:49:13.62
You know, some of
the things if you read
00:49:13.63\00:49:14.71
some of the writings
that Ellen White had just
00:49:14.72\00:49:16.13
deep scholarly
works and so you find here
00:49:16.14\00:49:18.37
in Numbers 12 verse 6
00:49:18.38\00:49:21.36
that God speaks
to His true prophets
00:49:21.37\00:49:23.07
through visions and dreams.
00:49:23.08\00:49:24.40
So they had to
have visions and dreams,
00:49:24.41\00:49:26.22
that kind of thing and
she fits those as well.
00:49:26.23\00:49:30.34
Now as we are coming
down to the end of this,
00:49:30.35\00:49:32.83
the Spirit of
Prophecy study here.
00:49:32.84\00:49:34.36
I want you to
think about a few things
00:49:34.37\00:49:35.56
that we've learned through here.
00:49:35.57\00:49:37.89
One of them is the very
fact that God is definitely
00:49:37.90\00:49:40.67
going to raise up a prophet
00:49:40.68\00:49:42.04
in and around the
time frame of 1844.
00:49:42.05\00:49:44.67
We know its going to happen.
00:49:44.68\00:49:46.05
The Bible has said,
it was going to happen,
00:49:46.06\00:49:47.28
you know, the consistent,
00:49:47.29\00:49:48.75
the prophetic pattern
all throughout, right.
00:49:48.76\00:49:50.95
And the question
that I like to ask
00:49:50.96\00:49:53.02
when you are given the
study, I will ask you here,
00:49:53.03\00:49:55.44
ask you at home or whatever,
when you are giving the study,
00:49:55.45\00:49:57.59
if it's not her then who?
00:49:57.60\00:50:01.48
And then I asked
them, do you believe
00:50:01.49\00:50:02.59
that God's gonna be consistent?
00:50:02.60\00:50:05.12
Do you believe, He is
gonna keep the same pattern up?
00:50:05.13\00:50:08.20
Of course, you
believe that right?
00:50:08.21\00:50:09.75
And I want to get the person
00:50:09.76\00:50:10.77
I am studying with Roberto.
00:50:10.78\00:50:11.75
I want to get
them to either say no.
00:50:11.76\00:50:13.52
I don't believe that
pattern is valid or say, yeah,
00:50:13.53\00:50:16.27
I can see how that's gonna work,
00:50:16.28\00:50:17.29
you want to get an
answer from them at that point.
00:50:17.30\00:50:19.34
You know, you say, oh, yeah,
00:50:19.35\00:50:20.35
I can see that's
valid, and say, okay.
00:50:20.36\00:50:22.61
If you come to the conclusion
that you don't believe,
00:50:22.62\00:50:24.48
I am just asking
you to investigate
00:50:24.49\00:50:26.16
to prove the
prophets and I will tell you
00:50:26.17\00:50:27.60
why I am asking you
to do that just a minute,
00:50:27.61\00:50:29.50
but I want you just
check it out for yourself
00:50:29.51\00:50:31.89
and what we
shown, what I've shown
00:50:31.90\00:50:34.94
and I believe to be true
is, then we have to accept it
00:50:34.95\00:50:37.87
as part of God's word.
00:50:37.88\00:50:39.25
If God's word says,
there is going to be
00:50:39.26\00:50:40.43
prophets in the last days,
00:50:40.44\00:50:42.19
then is it gift for us
to reject prophets, no.
00:50:42.20\00:50:45.31
How do we know that?
00:50:45.32\00:50:47.04
We will go to our next text.
00:50:47.05\00:50:48.24
First Thessalonians Chapter 5,
00:50:48.25\00:50:49.42
this is the last text
in this study part here.
00:50:49.43\00:50:51.52
First Thessalonians
Chapter 5 verse 20 and 21.
00:50:51.53\00:50:54.95
It's in the New Testament
the "T" is in the New Testament,
00:50:54.96\00:50:57.04
remember that we went
through that several times.
00:50:57.05\00:50:59.22
So we get to-- Timothy,
00:50:59.23\00:51:01.11
which way I need
to go from, Timothy?
00:51:01.12\00:51:03.42
Move to the left, right,
First Thessalonians 5:20 and 21.
00:51:03.43\00:51:09.22
Look at the counsel
00:51:09.23\00:51:10.42
that Paul gives to us as
his church, as his people would,
00:51:10.43\00:51:13.23
that he has given
to the Thessalonians
00:51:13.24\00:51:14.83
in First
Thessalonians 5:20 and 21.
00:51:14.84\00:51:17.26
Now, Bill, I'm
gonna let you read this.
00:51:17.27\00:51:18.93
Now, whenever I am
reading this in a Bible study,
00:51:18.94\00:51:21.26
I am doing this,
when I am preaching it,
00:51:21.27\00:51:22.88
I'll make sure, I'll make sure,
00:51:22.89\00:51:24.21
I make the point, I mean,
00:51:24.22\00:51:25.87
I want to make
an appeal with this.
00:51:25.88\00:51:27.74
That's the point I want to
make, I want to make an appeal,
00:51:27.75\00:51:29.34
and so you are going to ask them
00:51:29.35\00:51:30.82
to make a decision
based on this text.
00:51:30.83\00:51:32.67
So as you read it, I
will put you on a spot
00:51:32.68\00:51:35.14
just a little
bit if you want to.
00:51:35.15\00:51:36.22
You can try to make
an appeal to me just like
00:51:36.23\00:51:37.81
read it through and
then you're gonna ask me
00:51:37.82\00:51:39.51
a question at
the end of it, right.
00:51:39.52\00:51:40.69
If you can't think of it,
I will give to you, go ahead.
00:51:40.70\00:51:42.14
"Do not despise prophecies.
00:51:43.80\00:51:45.77
Test all things,
hold fast what is good."
00:51:45.78\00:51:48.70
And so then I would,
00:51:48.71\00:51:49.88
I try to read that or
I'll have a person read that,
00:51:49.89\00:51:52.29
you know, I
usually read the last text,
00:51:52.30\00:51:53.59
the closing one here.
00:51:53.60\00:51:54.57
But what's the
Bible tell us to do, Bill?
00:51:54.58\00:51:57.82
Test the
prophets. Test the prophets.
00:51:57.83\00:51:59.82
Yeah, test them and
that's all I am asking you
00:51:59.83\00:52:01.30
do right now in the close.
00:52:01.31\00:52:02.82
It's all I am asking you to do.
00:52:02.83\00:52:04.61
You know, as you are
given the study or whatever.
00:52:04.62\00:52:06.40
I am asking you to
test to see if it fits.
00:52:06.41\00:52:08.41
Now when you go
to test the prophet,
00:52:08.42\00:52:10.90
do you go and
find out all the things
00:52:10.91\00:52:13.45
that people wrote
against the prophet
00:52:13.46\00:52:14.91
and that's how
you test the prophet,
00:52:14.92\00:52:16.38
or do you go to
what the prophet wrote
00:52:16.39\00:52:17.84
and find out for yourself.
00:52:17.85\00:52:20.08
I will give a
little illustration
00:52:20.09\00:52:21.55
that I can use with people.
00:52:21.56\00:52:23.66
Gloria, let supposed,
you're going to go buy
00:52:23.67\00:52:25.29
brand new Ford
pickup truck, right.
00:52:25.30\00:52:28.76
You want a new Ford pickup,
00:52:28.77\00:52:31.05
so as you get
ready to go buy it,
00:52:31.06\00:52:32.94
where you're gonna
go, who you're gonna go
00:52:32.95\00:52:34.82
talk to find out about
that Ford pickup truck?
00:52:34.83\00:52:37.22
Who you're gonna talk to?
00:52:37.23\00:52:38.90
I will talk to the Ford dealers.
00:52:40.29\00:52:41.96
You mean, you don't go
to the Chevy dealership.
00:52:41.97\00:52:44.03
No. Why?
00:52:44.04\00:52:45.65
Because they
specialize in Chevy's.
00:52:45.66\00:52:47.93
So if you go
the Chevy dealership
00:52:47.94\00:52:49.40
and you ask them about the Ford,
00:52:49.41\00:52:50.43
what do you think
they are gonna tell you?
00:52:50.44\00:52:51.65
All good stuff.
00:52:51.66\00:52:52.72
You go to the Chevy dealership
00:52:52.73\00:52:53.99
and ask them about the Ford,
what are they gonna tell you?
00:52:54.00\00:52:55.70
All bad stuff.
That's exactly right.
00:52:55.71\00:52:57.62
They're gonna
tell you all bad stuff,
00:52:57.63\00:52:58.81
because they don't
want you to buy a Ford,
00:52:58.82\00:53:00.09
they want to you
to buy? Chevrolet.
00:53:00.10\00:53:01.65
That's exactly right.
They want you buy Chevy, right.
00:53:01.66\00:53:03.50
And so the reason I
bring this out in this point,
00:53:03.51\00:53:05.51
because many people at
this point when you ask them,
00:53:05.52\00:53:07.65
they will and
you get this appeal
00:53:07.66\00:53:08.84
and he will say, you know,
00:53:08.85\00:53:09.82
I am just asking
you to test the prophet.
00:53:09.83\00:53:11.61
They will go on
Internet, they go to Google,
00:53:11.62\00:53:13.53
and they'll go to find
the anti-Seventh-day Adventist
00:53:13.54\00:53:15.82
or anti-Ellen White
website, and he will say okay,
00:53:15.83\00:53:18.64
what I am gonna
study about Ellen White,
00:53:18.65\00:53:21.34
oh, oh, she had-- this
anti-Ellen White website,
00:53:21.35\00:53:25.24
you know what it says.
00:53:25.25\00:53:26.23
It says that she
didn't really have visions,
00:53:26.24\00:53:27.86
but she had seizures.
00:53:27.87\00:53:29.31
So apparently you
got a whole movement
00:53:29.32\00:53:31.82
going all over the world,
00:53:31.83\00:53:32.93
because this woman
00:53:32.94\00:53:34.06
with third-grade
education had seizures.
00:53:34.07\00:53:35.29
Well, I reject that I
feel comfortable myself now.
00:53:35.30\00:53:38.38
That's what many people
do, they will actually do
00:53:38.39\00:53:39.59
something just like that.
00:53:39.60\00:53:40.57
They wanted that-- we
tend to be the kind of people
00:53:40.58\00:53:43.15
who want to reject anything
like that because it's sounds,
00:53:43.16\00:53:46.17
sounds strange to us
in our corrupt minds,
00:53:46.18\00:53:48.33
our nature, right.
00:53:48.34\00:53:49.31
And so just to find
the reason to reject it,
00:53:49.32\00:53:51.53
they will go to
the Chevy dealerships,
00:53:51.54\00:53:52.83
so they don't
have to buy the Ford,
00:53:52.84\00:53:54.64
or they go to an
anti-Ellen White website
00:53:54.65\00:53:56.98
to find out that
they don't have to follow
00:53:56.99\00:53:59.47
what the prophet is saying.
00:53:59.48\00:54:00.78
Here is my challenge to
you and my challenge to them.
00:54:00.79\00:54:04.46
Before we go
find the anti against
00:54:04.47\00:54:08.11
the Spirit of Prophecy,
against Ellen White websites
00:54:08.12\00:54:10.34
and read that stuff
and I encourage you to do
00:54:10.35\00:54:11.75
that by the way, go right ahead.
00:54:11.76\00:54:13.34
But before you do that read
00:54:13.35\00:54:14.82
what she actually wrote herself
00:54:14.83\00:54:17.64
and said herself
before you go and find out
00:54:17.65\00:54:19.35
what people say against her,
00:54:19.36\00:54:21.02
it makes
perfect sense, you know,
00:54:21.03\00:54:22.53
I have no problem if I am
going buy a Ford pickup truck
00:54:22.54\00:54:24.80
and I kind of sold on the Ford.
00:54:24.81\00:54:26.20
After I go to
the Ford dealership
00:54:26.21\00:54:27.39
there is
nothing wrong with them.
00:54:27.40\00:54:28.56
We're going to
the Chevy dealership
00:54:28.57\00:54:29.55
and comparing, is it?
00:54:29.56\00:54:31.61
There is nothing
always doing that
00:54:31.62\00:54:32.59
because you want to find out,
oh, maybe this one is better.
00:54:32.60\00:54:35.28
And I want to encourage
you o do the same thing.
00:54:35.29\00:54:36.50
The Bible teaches
us that we should go
00:54:36.51\00:54:39.21
and prove the prophets.
00:54:39.22\00:54:40.41
What it says there
again in First Thessalonians?
00:54:40.42\00:54:42.96
"Do not despise prophecies."
00:54:42.97\00:54:47.25
That's what the people
did in the days of Daniel,
00:54:47.26\00:54:49.53
that's what the people
did in the days of Jeremiah
00:54:49.54\00:54:51.68
and Moses and
all through history,
00:54:51.69\00:54:54.66
the contemporaries of prophets,
00:54:54.67\00:54:56.94
flatly rejected them.
00:54:56.95\00:54:58.98
And it will be the
people much later in the future
00:54:58.99\00:55:00.56
that would say, oh,
they were true prophets
00:55:00.57\00:55:02.65
and if I would been
there, I wouldn't rejected them,
00:55:02.66\00:55:04.76
but they will flatly reject one
00:55:04.77\00:55:06.38
that's given in
their day because,
00:55:06.39\00:55:07.89
because they don't want to,
00:55:07.90\00:55:09.74
they don't want to be different.
00:55:09.75\00:55:11.89
You know, they
don't want to be caught
00:55:11.90\00:55:12.89
following an error or
anything like that but God says
00:55:12.90\00:55:17.01
to prove the
prophets, to test the prophets,
00:55:17.02\00:55:20.99
and through God, he
says prove all things
00:55:21.00\00:55:24.07
and hold fast
that which is good.
00:55:24.08\00:55:27.14
And so that's my
challenge, that's the challenge
00:55:27.15\00:55:28.45
I give to the people in
the Spirit of Prophecy study,
00:55:28.46\00:55:30.59
you know, I am giving you
the same challenge right now.
00:55:30.60\00:55:32.68
Right now, few
books that she has written
00:55:32.69\00:55:34.95
that are good books
to kind of yet to read,
00:55:34.96\00:55:38.46
Great Controversy
is the powerful book.
00:55:38.47\00:55:40.60
If you get the book
called Great Controversy,
00:55:40.61\00:55:41.99
it takes you through
a history of basically
00:55:42.00\00:55:44.18
from starts off from
the time of Jesus there,
00:55:44.19\00:55:47.52
you know, it takes
you through the history,
00:55:47.53\00:55:48.85
the reformers
and things like that
00:55:48.86\00:55:50.44
and how they were persecuted,
00:55:50.45\00:55:51.78
lot of interesting things
through history persecutions,
00:55:51.79\00:55:53.83
but it takes you all the way up
00:55:53.84\00:55:54.98
to the second
coming of Christ and things
00:55:54.99\00:55:56.46
that will going
on His earth then,
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powerful book to read.
00:55:58.24\00:56:00.17
I know many people that their
whole lives has been changed,
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that they found this book
and they were basically atheist,
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I remember a guy myself.
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He basically just
didn't believe in God
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or anything hardly at
all and he read this book
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and right after
he read this book,
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you know, what he
did? You know, what he did?
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He didn't join the church,
00:56:15.82\00:56:17.36
he went out and brought a
Bible that he didn't have.
00:56:17.37\00:56:20.04
That book calls
him to go buy a Bible.
00:56:20.05\00:56:21.99
He says I got to
find this out for myself
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and he goes and reads the Bible
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and then he becomes a
Seventh-day Adventist Christian.
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He is baptized,
part of God's people
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and he does this
not because, not because
00:56:29.67\00:56:32.02
it was some
kind of a crazy thing
00:56:32.03\00:56:33.00
that led him of wrong way,
00:56:33.01\00:56:34.80
but actually that book
led him to study the Bible.
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And there's people out there,
00:56:38.23\00:56:39.70
they will pick
up, pick up a book
00:56:39.71\00:56:40.74
written by Ellen White
like a Great Controversy
00:56:40.75\00:56:42.82
or Desire of Ages
or Steps to Christ
00:56:42.83\00:56:44.67
or Acts of the
Apostles, many of these books
00:56:44.68\00:56:47.24
like commentaries on the Bible.
00:56:47.25\00:56:48.73
They will read that
book and then they will go,
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they have to go and
check it out with the Bible,
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they will get a Bible.
00:56:51.70\00:56:53.01
And like good brains, if
it goes with the word of God
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they accept it and that's why
I encourage all you to do too.
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And again in the
close, "If not her then who?"
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Who it would be?
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Any little short questions
about the study right off?
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Nothing, all right.
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We'll cover more
in the detail we go,
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we do our class on the
Spirit of Prophecy here at Life,
00:57:14.81\00:57:16.71
here in a few weeks,
we'll cover all the details
00:57:16.72\00:57:18.74
of some of the things
we just filled in there.
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I want to
encourage you people at home
00:57:20.35\00:57:21.86
to come to Life,
comeexperiencelife.com,
00:57:21.87\00:57:24.46
actually you can
go to our website,
00:57:24.47\00:57:25.94
you can fill out an application
00:57:25.95\00:57:27.34
and prepared to be
coming through Life
00:57:27.35\00:57:28.96
at our next
semester that we have.
00:57:28.97\00:57:31.08
You can learn both
this class in person,
00:57:31.09\00:57:33.11
there is nothing
like being here in person
00:57:33.12\00:57:34.71
and then you can also be here
00:57:34.72\00:57:35.94
when we do our
Spirit of Prophecy study,
00:57:35.95\00:57:37.51
the full study.
00:57:37.52\00:57:38.60
So, thanks for joining us today
00:57:38.61\00:57:40.52
and we hope to see you again
back here on our next study.
00:57:40.53\00:57:43.00