Participants: Phillip Sizemore (Host)
Series Code: LOE
Program Code: LOE000017
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00:01 Harvest truly is plenteous,
00:03 but the laborers are few. 00:04 Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, 00:06 that he will, he will send forth laborers into 00:09 his harvest. Also, I heard the voice of the 00:12 Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? 00:15 And who will go for us?" 00:17 Then said I, "Here am I, send me, 00:21 send me". Life on the Edge will enable you 00:25 to be an effective harvester for the Lord. 00:27 We now invite you into our classroom 00:30 to come, experience Life. 00:43 Welcome again to the Lay Institute for 00:45 Evangelism. Today, we're going to be talking 00:47 about part 2 of the Destruction of the Wicked, 00:49 it's a two part Bible study. 00:50 Now, when you actually give the Bible study 00:53 for those of you at home or for those of us 00:55 here when you give the Bible study, 00:57 you want to make sure that you don't do it all, 00:59 you take 2 hours to do the study, 01:01 you follow that? You want to give a Bible 01:02 study in about an hour's time, as Scott has 01:04 covered that pretty good, and I wanna to 01:06 touch on it again here. If you go in somebody's 01:08 home and there were to say yes please have 01:10 Bible studies with me. And your Bible study lasts 01:12 like 2 hours, next week when you say let's 01:15 have a Bible study. They're gonna say oh! 01:17 You know I kind of got some things I got to do, 01:19 I'm little busy, because they're thinking themselves 01:21 I like to have the study, but I really don't 01:22 have 2 or 3 hours to spend with this person. 01:25 But since we are actually learning here, 01:26 we are actually teaching how to give the Bible 01:28 studies, and like it takes a little extra time, 01:31 because you know I don't always when I'm 01:33 giving a Bible study give all the stories like I've 01:36 given to you guys. You know it's like every 01:37 story but some of them I'll use, 01:39 and same with you, there will be certain things 01:41 that happened in your life and when you do that, 01:43 when you do the Bible study with someone else. 01:46 You want to make sure that, that you share 01:47 things what it means to you personally in a 01:49 personal experience, I mean you wanna share 01:51 the Bible truth? You want to actually share what 01:53 the Bible has to say, but then the personal 01:55 experience like how it's changed you, 01:57 how it's made your life different is very important 01:59 as well. So, but you don't want the whole Bible 02:03 study to be personal testimony time, 02:05 you know. So, again when you give these studies 02:07 it's okay to give a personal story here and 02:09 there, and let them know like see how actually 02:11 applies to you in real life. Are you following 02:14 what I'm saying there, okay, and so we done 02:17 the first half of the study on the Destruction 02:20 of the Wicked. And the reason I called Destruction 02:22 of the Wicked instead of just simply hell, 02:24 is because it kind a, hell kind has a connotation 02:27 of everlasting, ever-turn, ever-burning, 02:30 eternal fire where the wicked are just there 02:32 and they can't die no matter how much they 02:33 want to die? That's kind of the mind set on 02:36 when you think about hell, most people when 02:37 you think about it. But when you say a term 02:39 Destruction of the Wicked, it kind of gives the 02:41 different meaning you know what I'm saying? 02:43 It doesn't sound like they are living forever 02:44 does it, it sounds like destruction of the wicked. 02:47 And so we're gonna actually review a little bit 02:49 of the first part of DVD, because or the video 02:52 we're taking here this session. 02:54 The reason we're gonna review is because 02:56 somebody might just pick up in the middle of this 02:57 and be watching the second, second part of 03:00 this or second half that we're doing now, 03:02 and say what are they talking about? 03:04 And so we'll review quickly of what we 03:06 covered so far and as we do that review, 03:09 we're gonna look at when we first started out 03:11 the study today on the Destruction of the Wicked. 03:13 We looked at the purpose of this study and 03:15 what was the purpose of the study? 03:17 To show that the purpose of hell is to destroy 03:20 sin forever, so the purpose of hell is not to 03:24 prolong a sinner in immortal, 03:27 in immortal torture, you know, but it's to 03:29 destroy sin forever. God doesn't want to show 03:32 us as sinners, remembex we learned that in 03:34 the last study that in Matthew Chapter, 03:36 when we looked in the gospel of Matthew. 03:37 Let me get to text here Matthew Chapter 25 03:40 we found out in verse 41 that hell was 03:43 prepared for who? For the devil, 03:46 for Satan and his angels, right, but and 03:48 the reason he is gonna put them there, 03:49 is because they have sinned, they have fallen 03:51 from heaven, they are here on earth; 03:52 they are causing all of us, all of our problems, 03:55 all of our tortures, and all the bad things 03:57 that are happening to you is because of the devil, 03:59 is because of that sin that he has caused to 04:00 happen in this earth. And so eventually God says 04:03 I'm gonna have this place, and I'm gonna 04:04 destroy the devil in. But now if you happen 04:07 to be connected with him, I've got to destroy you 04:09 too. And so when we think of, 04:12 the reason we make it the destruction of the 04:13 wicked instead of just simply saying hell is 04:15 because that's what's gonna happen to them 04:16 according to the Bible. They're gonna be 04:18 destroyed in the fires of hell, and that's what 04:21 the purpose of it is, and remember how we 04:22 looked at it? Does God love sin? 04:24 No, does God love sinners? 04:26 Yes, and so since God love sinners, 04:28 and He hates sin, and He says I'm gonna 04:31 immortalize sin, is it what He says in the Bible? 04:34 He is gonna do what? Destroy sin, 04:36 but now He has a problem, the problem is 04:38 those who He loves you and I who He loves 04:40 deeply are here on this planet and there is sin 04:44 all around us. And some of us, unfortunately 04:47 some of us tend to have an idea that we really 04:49 love sin. And so now God has a problem that 04:53 who He loves you and myself, 04:54 He loves us is involved in sin, 04:57 we have it involved in our life we're like filled 04:59 with it, right? Sometimes we can get that way. 05:02 And God hates the sin, but He loves you. 05:05 Now, what's His problem? You know what 05:06 His problem is? In order to get rid of the sin, 05:10 He has to also destroy the one that has involved 05:13 with it, the one is connected to it. 05:15 So, even though He doesn't want to, 05:17 God doesn't want to destroy us. And we'll learn 05:19 that as we get to end of the study today. 05:21 We will learn He doesn't want to get rid of us. 05:22 He wants us to live forever. But in order for 05:24 us to help us to live forever, 05:26 He has to get us to turn from our sin. 05:29 And so the purpose of the study is to show 05:32 and like its quoted here if you notice real close 05:33 on the purpose here. It says the purpose is to 05:35 destroy not the sinner, but sin forever. 05:39 God really doesn't want to destroy the sinner 05:40 forever, it just happen, you happen to be 05:42 connected with it. You know, its like your, 05:44 what do they call them collateral damage when you 05:46 when you drop a bomb and you want to 05:47 destroy the enemy over there in the some of the 05:49 wars we're having now they drop a bomb there 05:51 was collateral damage. You know it happened 05:52 to be that some of the, some of the people 05:55 that were, that we didn't want to destroy, 05:56 got destroyed too, because it was connected 05:58 with the people that we had to destroy or 06:01 needed to destroy they say, okay. 06:03 And so whether they needed to or had 06:04 to or not that's it, somebody else opinion, 06:06 I'm out of that. 06:08 But the Bible says as we go to the Center 06:10 It part here, we're gonna look at the Center It: 06:12 Jesus loves sinners forever, did you know that? 06:16 Jesus loves sinners forever. Now, we took from 06:20 this point as we went through the study and 06:22 we realize that God is a God of love, 06:26 and He loves even sinners forever and if you 06:28 love someone, do you want him to torture 06:30 forever like? Even if you hate someone would 06:33 you want to see them be tortured forever? 06:34 I mean even a scantily as we are you know as 06:36 human beings and is rotten as we are inside, 06:39 we don't want to see anybody suffer forever. 06:42 I mean I don't, my kids, and how about your? 06:45 I don't want to punish them forever, 06:47 you know I would like to say I had tough time 06:49 even like with my kids, they are really good kids, 06:51 you really don't need to put to whole harder 06:53 ever actually as far as it goes 06:54 the best kids in the world. 06:56 But anyway when I had to do them, 06:58 when they do like somebody calls one of the 07:00 others, somebody else's kids, because my kid's 07:02 messed up you know how they go sometimes, 07:03 right? And they have done something wrong, 07:06 and I got to punish them. Do you think 07:08 I want to send them, send them to the room 07:10 forever? No. You know it actually hurts me 07:13 to send them to the room or punished them 07:15 just a little bit, because I have to do it, right? 07:19 I'm more just in God, if I'm more holy in God, 07:20 and so God create us and loves us and He's 07:23 gonna make us suffer forever, and ever, 07:27 and ever, and ever, and ever for the sins of 07:28 one lifetime. See it, it doesn't make sense to 07:30 have say that's the God of love, and that's 07:33 kind of the review of what we looked at, 07:34 we looked at text that go along with it. 07:36 We figured out that, that God had created 07:38 heaven for us, right? Matthew 25:34, 07:41 Either He created heaven for us to be in and 07:43 He created hell, He's gonna create hell, 07:45 hell is gonna be here existing for the devil 07:47 and his angels, that's they were created for. 07:49 But you will get on there if you're connected 07:51 with them, but He wants us to live forever, 07:54 He is a God of love, He wants His creation to 07:55 live forever. And then we found out something 07:57 else that may have been new, 07:58 it maybe new to lot of people at home actually 08:01 as well does you probably heard it before, 08:03 but that hell, hell is not in the center of the 08:06 earth, but we learn that the Bible says in 08:07 Revelation Chapter 20 that hell is where? 08:10 On the earth, it's actually on the earth and it's 08:12 gonna happen and so it's not taking place right 08:14 now because you don't see anything, 08:15 any fire and brimstone burning people up right now 08:18 do we? But it says the wicked are destroyed the 08:20 second death, and they're going to be destroyed 08:22 on this earth. The fire is gonna rain down from 08:24 God and devour them here on this earth. 08:26 So, they're gonna be devoured and you remember, 08:28 you remember what we figured out about the 08:29 word devour, right? Like one, 08:31 when the Bible says that God devours the 08:32 wicked right with the fire, devouring what 08:35 that is, it means they never be anymore. 08:37 Yeah, we went to Taco Bell and we ate burritos 08:39 and they were just gone, they were devoured 08:41 no more. And than we went from that on to Job 08:46 and we figured out that the Job says that 08:48 the wicked are reserved, Job 21. 08:50 The wicked are reserved until the Day of Judgment. 08:53 In other words He put in either holding, 08:55 they have been held and where they held at, 08:57 in the grave they are waiting, because He says 08:59 He's gonna bring them forth at that day and 09:01 then they're gonna be destroyed in the fires 09:03 of hell. And then we found out that, that 09:04 the Bible also says in 2nd Peter Chapter 3 09:06 and verse 7 it says the same thing again. 09:08 The wicked are reserved to the fire and God's 09:11 gonna destroy them in fire. And then my 09:13 favorite text in the Bible as far as dealing 09:15 with this, if you are ever just like in a place 09:19 and someone has confront you and they says 09:21 hey I believe that hell last for ever and ever 09:24 and sinners are in hell forever and sinner live 09:26 forever in hell, like you dealt with that right. 09:29 What's the simplest text in all the Bible that 09:32 repeats that. John 3:16 is powerful text isn't it? 09:35 Jesus himself is speaking and Jesus says hey 09:38 you got two options, those who believe in me 09:41 will not perish, but have everlasting life. 09:46 So, the two options that Jesus gives to, 09:48 to us, to any of us human beings and Him 09:50 speaking Himself, that's His words is the wicked 09:53 will perish to be no more, to be nonexistent 09:56 that's what perishing is, or the righteous has 09:59 eternal life. You don't find anywhere in the 10:01 Bible, like there is not a text anywhere that 10:03 says the wicked have eternal life. 10:05 You don't have anything that says oh! Yeah, 10:06 the wicked are gonna live forever. 10:09 What you do have and we're gonna back to that, 10:12 we're gonna touch on it again here as we get 10:13 in this next part of the study. 10:14 In Revelation Chapter 14 where it says that 10:17 there is smoke of their torment ascendeth up 10:18 for ever and ever. And let us just hit that 10:20 text real quick here, because we did look at 10:22 that then we decided we will go through the 10:24 Bible and find out what the term for ever 10:27 and ever meant, you remember that? 10:29 And for those of you at home if you're thinking 10:32 well he's going awful fast, and I don't really 10:33 believe what he saying is true you got to get 10:35 the first CD or DVD or the watch the first half 10:39 of this study and then you will understand 10:41 why we're just, why we're saying, 10:42 what we're saying? In another words we 10:45 already covered the text that prove what we're 10:47 saying, you just have to go back and watch the 10:50 first video to see what all this, what all this is 10:52 about everything like that. So, if you're really 10:54 frustrated with me right now and you're screaming 10:55 at me through your TV and you're saying how 10:57 can he say that the wicked don't live forever 10:59 in hell. You need to see the first part of the 11:01 study, so don't get mad and walk away, 11:02 go and watch the first part of the study. 11:04 We'll look at Revelation Chapter 14 and verse 11 11:06 speaking of the wicked it says: The smoke of 11:10 their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever. 11:12 Now does it say that the people are living for 11:14 ever and ever? No. Now, that is interesting it 11:17 just says the smoke of their torment, 11:19 ascendeth up for ever and ever. 11:20 And I heard a guy one time and it's very 11:21 interesting because the way it's written you 11:23 really don't know how we are referencing here. 11:25 Is it referencing acts of the people who are 11:27 living for ever and ever and having the smoke 11:28 of their torment ascendeth up all that time, 11:30 or have you ever been like out somewhere. 11:33 And you see way off in a distance you see 11:35 smoke is ascending up way up high and what 11:37 do you know when you see that way off in a 11:38 distance somewhere that is a fire out there right. 11:40 And the smoke you see it ascend up goes out 11:42 of sight. You've ever seen a fire or something 11:44 like that we just see the smoke going up 11:46 and it seems like it goes out of sight you know 11:47 it disappears into the clouds or whatever, 11:49 a real big flame. What you can say the smoke 11:52 was ascending up for ever and ever? 11:53 In other words the direction not the length 11:55 of how long it's going, but just like how high 11:57 it's going, you know it can mean that as well. 12:00 And remember we discovered that it's 12:02 very, very dangerous to take one text and 12:05 say no, no this says that they live for ever 12:07 and ever in hell, but it doesn't say that in text, 12:10 especially in comparison with other texts like 12:12 what Jesus Himself says that they'll be 12:14 perished, they'll be destroyed and we looked 12:16 at many text that say these very things. 12:19 And we actually went in from this point here 12:21 after we look at this text it says that: 12:24 The smoke of their torment ascends up for ever 12:26 and ever: and they have no rest day or night, 12:30 who worship the beast in his image, 12:32 and whoever receives the mark of his name. 12:34 So the people that receive the mark of beast, 12:38 they are tortured, they are tormented in 12:39 the flames, right? And the smoke of their 12:41 torment ascends up for ever and ever. 12:43 Well, you know the Bible's give us examples 12:46 of people that suffered the eternal fire 12:49 for ever and ever. And one of them we 12:51 went to, we went to couple of text in the 12:52 Old Testament, you can find them in the study 12:56 notes you can download them online study 12:57 notes for the study guide as well. 12:59 I just reference them right now because we're 13:01 just reviewing. But there were some text in the 13:03 Old Testament talking about things that 13:05 happened to people forever like Samuel went 13:06 and served in the house to Lord forever, 13:08 1 Samuel 1:22 says that, he went to serve in 13:10 the house Lord forever, but he's not serving 13:12 there today. And we discover that that when 13:14 you look at the original meaning of these words 13:16 and stuff it can mean for indefinite period 13:18 of time. We actually do the same thing today. 13:25 I went to play golf the other day, 13:27 and like on the third hole it took me forever to 13:30 finish that hole, did I finish it? Yeah, but was 13:35 it forever literally? No, and so we do the same 13:38 thing we use our terminology today even our 13:40 like English language. We can use the term 13:42 forever doesn't necessarily mean to the 13:44 ceaseless ages of eternity, right? 13:47 It can also mean an indefinite period of time 13:49 like it took a long time but it finally, 13:51 it finally ran out, it was finally done. 13:53 And so we do the same thing today, 13:55 and they have done that than when they wrote 13:56 that. Of course, it doesn't mean that Samuel 13:58 was gonna be in the house of Lord serving 14:01 forever, I meant until he died. 14:03 And it's the same way today and it's interesting 14:05 too when you look at the, like the Greek word 14:08 there that we have, and I'm not all into 14:10 studying Greek and all that kind of stuff to be 14:11 able to understand the Bible. Sometimes you 14:13 have to go look get your concordance you know, 14:15 get the concordance, and look at the original 14:16 meaning of the word or something like that, 14:18 but its interesting because the word for ever 14:20 and ever it's like, it's the same term we 14:22 would use if we said eon and eons. 14:24 You know you've heard the terms eon before, 14:26 right? That's just like indefinite period of time. 14:29 I was there for eons, alright. And so the term 14:32 use that simple can mean, it can mean it 14:35 through the ceaseless ages, in another words 14:37 never ending. But it can also mean the same 14:39 word it can mean even in their language until 14:42 the end of an age and that's actually one of 14:43 the definitions there until the end of an age. 14:46 And so the wicked will suffer until they burn up, 14:51 alright and how do I know that, well I am 14:53 marking spouting out a whole bunch of things 14:54 but how do I know that for sure because we look 14:57 at the Bible. Now I'm going to go back to the 14:58 screen here, back to our text because we're 15:00 gonna pick up. We left off in Jude Chapter 1 15:02 and verse 7. I'm gonna read it again because 15:04 if you're in the book of Revelation, 15:05 all you have do is back up one book and go 15:07 to the book of Jude, get back one book in 15:08 your Bible, the book of Jude. 15:11 If you get to the little John's 1st, 15:13 2nd and 3rd you went to far because Jude is 15:14 just one Chapter long and God gave us an 15:16 example. Now remember in Revelation we just 15:19 read that the wicked are gonna, they're gonna 15:21 suffer, right? The fire and the smoke of the 15:24 torment goes up for how long? Forever or for 15:26 eternity or eternally, right? Can you say that? 15:30 Now, look here what happen in the book of Jude 15:32 verse 7. Jude is only one Chapter just go to 15:34 verse 7. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, 15:37 now most people know about Sodom and Gomorrah, 15:39 if they studied in and out of Bible they know 15:41 Sodom and Gomorrah what happened there 15:43 with the story, right? Fire came down and rain 15:44 upon them, what just sticks on your mind about 15:46 Sodom and Gomorrah more than anything. 15:48 Lots wife she turned to pillar of salt, right. 15:51 And the cities around them in like manner, 15:53 giving themselves over to fornication, 15:54 going after strange flesh, are set forth as 15:57 an example. They are an example, 16:01 suffering the vengeance of eternal fire, 16:06 fascinating point isn't it? What kind of fire did 16:08 they suffer? Eternal, so that means that they're 16:10 burning today. Now, we cover this in the last one, 16:13 but I'm gonna touch on it again, right? 16:14 They are burning today aren't they? 16:15 No, where are they are according what we found 16:17 out the last study? Yeah you are right, 16:21 what we call the Dead Sea today, 16:22 do you know something interesting? 16:23 I want to bring this out and I forgot to do, 16:25 that's what one of the reason I was back to 16:26 us as well. The saltiest, most mineral filled body 16:30 of water that you find in world today is the 16:33 Dead Sea, isn't it fascinating that Lot's wife 16:34 is turn to pillar of salt there. I just think that, 16:38 it's like neat little thing there to look at, 16:40 and what else do they find there? 16:41 You don't find anywhere else in the world, 16:43 there are little sulfur balls, right, because the 16:44 Bible says fire and brimstone rained out from 16:46 God out of heaven. And today that place all 16:48 around the Dead Sea there are different places 16:50 around it, you can find embedded in the rock, 16:52 embedded in the bank, and things like that 16:53 those little sulfur balls. You can't find anywhere 16:55 else in the world, it kind of gives the lot of 16:57 validity to the scriptures, doesn't it. 16:59 And so, are they burning today. 17:01 But now wait a minute, the Bible says 17:04 eternal fire they got to be burning still today 17:06 because that's what eternal mean isn't it 17:08 forever. Yeah, it means forever, 17:12 completely whatever, but they're not burning 17:14 today. So either we have a big problem, right? 17:19 God's word is not true or we're misunderstanding 17:21 what He is actually saying, you follow that? 17:25 And I think the problem, just a guess I'm not 17:27 sure but if you take in general I would guess the 17:30 problem probably lies with us, right? 17:32 About 10 out of 10 times if there seems to be 17:34 contradiction in the scripture, 17:36 the contradiction is probably the result of us 17:37 not understanding, no actually, 17:39 definitely would be the case. 17:41 And so we find in Revelation, the smoke of 17:44 their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever. 17:46 Many people understand that the wicked burned, 17:48 literally burned for ever and ever. 17:50 That's what we understand that happens to 17:51 the wicked they actually burned from the 17:52 ceaseless ages of eternity. But now we find in 17:55 the Bible that the Sodom and Gomorrah was 17:56 burned with eternal fire, and this eternal fire 18:00 is not burning today. So, how do 18:02 we bring this all together then? 18:05 Well let's go to our next text, our next text 18:06 here is found in 2nd Peter Chapter 2 and verse 6 18:12 Remember we looked in Jude 7, 18:14 we looked in the Bible says in Jude 7 that they 18:18 suffered as an example the vengeance of 18:20 eternal fire. Who is this example for? 18:24 Okay, Jude 7 well actually let's find out what 18:25 the Bible says. Well, some of the people here 18:27 in class said us, but this example who is it for? 18:32 You got it right there I think 2nd Peter 2:6 18:34 who has it ready to read right now? 18:36 I want to get somebody right on this front 18:37 row here, 2nd Peter Chapter 2, 18:39 I'm gonna find it myself, give me a second to 18:41 find it. Tom you want to go ahead and read 18:42 it again. Let me get there 2nd Peter Chapter 2. 18:46 If I can't get there fast enough then I'm sure 18:48 the people at home might get there either, 18:50 someone would be saying I beat you. 18:52 Yeah 2nd Peter 2:6, yeah that the folks at 18:54 home can try to like, get there before we do. 18:58 Go ahead and read it. Now, we just look at 19:00 Jude verse 7 and it talked about as 19:03 Sodom and Gomorrah are examples, 19:05 who are they example for and that's 19:06 what we're answering now. 19:09 "And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah 19:12 into ashes, condemned them to destruction, 19:16 making them an example to those who 19:18 afterward would live ungodly". 19:21 So Sodom and Gomorrah is an example for who? 19:24 Those who afterward would live ungodly. 19:27 Now what happened to those that afterward 19:29 lived ungodly? What's gonna happen to them 19:31 according what we've been studying? 19:32 They're gonna go to the fires, right? 19:34 So if the people if the Sodom and Gomorrah 19:37 as the example, if they are the example of 19:40 what's gonna happen to those who were living 19:41 ungodly now. What happened to 19:43 Sodom and Gomorrah? They were destroyed, 19:45 do you see how that fits together. 19:47 I mean this is the real good part of the study 19:48 that you wanna emphasize when you get to this, 19:50 when you're giving a study. 19:51 The very fact that the Bible teaches us that 19:53 Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed and that 19:56 is an example, an example what's gonna happen 19:58 to the wicked? Alright, so if I say 20:02 something as an example of something else 20:04 what's that telling you when you watch 20:06 whenever I explain something to you? 20:07 This is what will be like right. 20:09 And so God says this is what is gonna be like. 20:11 The wicked are gonna suffer the same thing that 20:12 Sodom and Gomorrah had suffered, 20:13 and what did they suffered from, eternal fire, 20:17 are they still burning? 20:18 No, you know I just realize something. 20:22 I'm holding all you guys responsible right here 20:23 this class right now. I never really want to 20:26 open up the Bible and study the Bible without 20:28 praying first, and I've told you guys 20:30 if I forgot to do that then you would go like 20:31 this to remind me to pray. And so it's all your fault 20:34 I'm gonna blame you right, I'll play the devil, 20:36 the devil, not the devil's advocate just the devil 20:38 here, just blame somebody else 20:39 for my problem Adam and Eve right, 20:42 shame on me shall I just ask. 20:43 So I will tell what we're gonna do? 20:44 Right now we're gonna pray that God will help 20:46 us through this study and you know I feel like 20:49 I've been rushed and maybe other reason I do 20:50 is because I've haven't asked 20:52 God to be with us right now. 20:54 So let us bow our heads just for minute. 20:56 Lord Jesus, sorry about getting ahead of 20:58 everything here and not taking sometime 21:00 seeking your guidance and your help. 21:03 I pray right now, you'll give us understanding 21:04 of your word. If people at home 21:06 who are watching this or listening to this, 21:08 wherever they are? Your sweet spirit in 21:11 their minds, in their hearts, may you fill 21:12 them and give us all understanding you want 21:14 us to have I pray in Jesus name, amen. 21:17 Alright, I feel better now after 21:19 talking with the Lord. You know the Bible says 21:21 spiritual things are? Yeah, and so if you 21:23 don't seek the spirit of God you won't 21:25 understand it through His understanding. 21:28 Your own or actually maybe the devil will 21:30 come in there, right, so devil will help you 21:32 understand the Bible in his own way. 21:34 So we want God to help us understand, not the devil. 21:36 Alright, so we found out here 2nd Peter 2:6 21:39 tells us that the wicked are gonna just be 21:42 overthrown, they gonna have the same result 21:45 as what happen to those of have been ungodly in 21:47 Sodom and Gomorrah. And then it says in the 21:48 cities around about them. There is something else 21:51 interesting about this as we go, as we go onto 21:54 the next text here Revelation Chapter 20 21:56 and verse 14, we'll get to those cities I'm sorry 21:58 wait a minute, Revelation 20 verse 14. 22:05 Revelation 20:14, Sodom and Gomorrah 22:08 was an example and I want you to notice 22:11 what Revelation 20 and verse 14 says about 22:14 the wicked and hell? It's a pretty powerful 22:17 text and I think because of our cameraman 22:20 where he standing at right now, is going to 22:21 be pointing in this direction, so we need to 22:23 get somebody over here to read next and 22:25 somebody hasn't read yet, is there anybody 22:27 here that hasn't read like even at there are first 22:29 study on the structure of the wicked. 22:31 No, Danielle I knew you would be ready 22:34 sister; you got your Bible text ready? 22:37 Alright, pick the microphone up, 22:38 give us a nice pretty smile, talk nice and 22:39 loud, look at the camera and look at me 22:41 something like that as you read. 22:44 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. 22:48 This is the second death. 22:49 Now, what does it mean to die? 22:55 It's a session of life, right. 22:56 Can you die and still be alive? 22:59 No. No, so it says here that the wicked 23:02 are gonna be cast in the hell or actually let us 23:04 read in the context death and hell were cast 23:06 into the lake of fire and this being the second 23:09 death, the second death. So, can you die the 23:12 second death and continue living. 23:15 If there is a second death what there must 23:16 first have to be? The first death, 23:19 so you know we all die at first death, don't we? 23:22 Not all as in all because the Bible says that some 23:24 people be alive when Jesus comes, 23:26 they'll be alive, they will be caught up to be 23:27 with him in the air. And then right you 23:29 read in Thessalonians there right, the book of 23:31 Thessalonians. But now this says here, 23:34 that death and hell are cast into the lake of fire 23:37 which is the second eternal life. 23:41 Death, right so there is a second death. 23:44 Now, you're gonna find out as we go through as 23:46 we keep going that there is no coming back 23:47 from the second death. You know, some people 23:50 get to come back from the first death right, 23:52 actually everybody does. The Bible says there are 23:54 two resurrections and the next study I believe 23:58 Aleeda is the one giving a next study you'll 23:59 discover that they, that they are all about two 24:02 resurrections in the Bible we will be talking 24:03 about that, but you have the death coming to life again. 24:08 We know that and so some of those dead, 24:11 some of those will die again. 24:14 And that will come little bit later on in the 24:17 next study later we will be covering that. 24:18 But we will notice here again that there is a 24:20 second death, not a second eternal life, 24:27 but a second death. Let us carry on now, 24:30 we're gonna find out from the words of Jesus 24:32 Himself, He talks about both of these deaths. 24:35 Now, I messed up my slides again, 24:36 the guy in a trailer is going crazy. 24:38 Matthew Chapter 10 verse 28, the 13th text 24:42 in the study and so you'll get to Matthew 24:44 Chapter 10 and verse 28. Now, I wanna make a 24:48 point here, maybe some of you don't know about 24:50 or haven't done this yet, it has to do with the 24:53 Bible marking. If you don't have room 24:56 to mark like so you get to Matthew Chapter 10 24:58 and verse 28 and there is no place to really 25:00 mark the study you know, you can't find a 25:04 room in you Bible to mark it. 25:06 One of the things I do in my Bible and you 25:07 can do it in yours as well it's really helpful 25:10 and I have actually done that with this one 25:11 here, I want you get a close up on it 25:13 but I don't think you can. 25:14 But right at the end of verse 28, 25:15 I didn't have room to write in like the text 25:17 that I was gonna have, having to write it in. 25:19 So, I just put a little circle with the dot there 25:22 and then I went somewhere else in the 25:24 Bible like down here to bottom. 25:27 And let me see here where is that, 25:29 sorry about that Scott, I turn where you can't get 25:31 a video of it. So, here, its in the 25:34 middle over here, I got little circle with 25:36 the dot in it where I'd room to write it 25:39 and then I wrote the text in there. 25:40 So, you go to Matthew 10:28 it's down here 25:42 I don't have room to write it, I just put a little 25:44 circle with the dot, usually have to put a 25:45 circle with the dot. Then you got 25:46 somewhere else on that page, and you make 25:48 another little circle with the dot or something 25:50 like that and you write in there the text so you 25:52 know where to go to, see you have room to write, 25:54 does that make sense? So as you marking up 25:55 your Bibles and you need to be marking up 25:57 your Bibles there at home, as you marking 25:59 up your Bibles, so get the Bible study. 26:01 Then, what you need to make sure, you do as if 26:03 you don't have room, you can just put a little 26:04 star there or little circle or something like that 26:06 put it again somewhere else on the page and 26:08 write a text in there, does that make sense. 26:11 If he got about half marked up with your 26:12 Bibles and things like that you're saying 26:13 oh! Now, he tells me. But that's a good way of 26:17 doing that and I think Scott kind of showed 26:18 that in the first day there little bit, 26:19 he talked about that some but just as a 26:21 reminder it makes a little easier. 26:23 So, the next text we're looking at is Matthew 26:25 10:28, these is the words of Jesus again 26:27 and look at the two options the words of Jesus. 26:30 Have you ever heard somebody say this? 26:33 Where your souls are immortal you know. 26:36 Look what Jesus says 10:28, who's gonna read that one? 26:43 Okay, Aneeda, Matthew Chapter 10 and verse 28. 26:50 And fear not them which kill the body, 26:53 but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear 26:56 him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 27:02 Oh! Think about that, what does it say will 27:04 happen to the people that are destroyed or 27:07 actually go to hell, what's gonna happen to them? 27:09 Destroy, notice what Jesus here once again 27:11 just like in Matthew Chapter, or John 3:16 27:14 when Jesus says: Perish or everlasting 27:15 life that was the perfect opportunity for Him to 27:17 say everlasting life in hell, everlasting life in 27:19 heaven, perfect opportunity, 27:21 but He doesn't, He says perish or everlasting life. 27:24 Here once again he says hey don't be afraid that 27:26 the people they can come up and they can 27:27 stick a knife to your gurd, they can crucify 27:28 you or they can hang you, they can flay your 27:30 skin off, whatever it is they do to torture 27:32 Christians and kill them right, they have done it 27:33 in the dark ages. Don't be afraid of those 27:34 things, because that's all they can do, once they 27:37 killed you can do nothing else, 27:38 but you need to fear, but you need to fear is Him. 27:41 You need to have love, and respect, and fear, 27:43 and honor Him, who after He destroy the 27:45 body can completely alienate you or destroy 27:49 you completely where? In hell, notice it doesn't 27:53 say, you get to live forever in hell, 27:54 but what happens in hell? Destroy, where in the 27:58 world do people get the idea that God is gonna 28:03 torture people in the fires of hell through the 28:05 ceaseless ages of eternity when you have 28:06 text after text it says contrary to that. 28:09 Now, again somebody is jumping up and down 28:10 shouting on the television. 28:12 What about it says eternal hell? 28:13 We've cover that, the result is eternal. 28:18 God is a God of love; He's not the tyrant that's 28:23 gonna put you for one, the sins of one lifetime. 28:26 And then, then I've heard people say this, 28:27 this is another argument and so I'm gonna go 28:28 and bring up that for teaching class, 28:30 I want to bring this up. That people will say, 28:32 well you're making it seem like that if all you 28:35 are gonna do is burn up they might as well just 28:37 go ahead and live it up and been live for the 28:39 devil everything because if you don't, 28:40 if you don't, we have to be suffering forever 28:42 then it doesn't really matter, really. 28:44 You know there is something; there is 28:45 something about us as humans. 28:47 If you just think about this for minute, 28:50 what really scares you more? 28:54 Becoming nonexistent, extinct, or living 28:58 forever, no matter what kind of state you're in, 29:01 living forever or becoming extinct, 29:02 what would scare you more? Just think about it, 29:03 just for a minute, just let your mind ponder 29:05 that for second. Would you be more 29:09 afraid of just becoming extinct or living forever 29:12 in some place, and I want to make another 29:14 confession here I can remember this. 29:17 I remember like you know how our little 29:20 minds work as we grew up and you develop and 29:22 you have your, just the way you start believing 29:25 things based on your environment, right? 29:27 And I remember thinking; if God's really 29:29 God of love like everybody says maybe 29:31 like I have been in hell for say it a thousand years. 29:34 You got to say okay, that's enough let him out. 29:37 If I am living forever wouldn't God 29:38 eventually say okay, okay alright this is 29:40 enough, this is enough, come on, He has paid 29:42 for his sins, right? And you know the wicked, 29:48 the wicked that don't accept Christ pay for 29:52 their own sins you know that, right? 29:54 But what about the righteous, 29:56 who paid for our sins? Did he? 30:00 Listen if the result of sin is everlasting torture, 30:05 He did not pay for your sins, because He's not 30:09 suffering today, that He died on the cross, 30:13 He suffered, He suffered the second death, 30:15 He like died for our sins you follow that. 30:17 If the penalty for sin is everlasting torture 30:19 and torment then Christ did not pay for your 30:22 sins, because He's not being tormented and 30:24 tortured today, does that makes sense? 30:28 So again it takes away when you think about 30:30 this teaching, it takes, it's the Antichrist power 30:33 that mindset taking the place of Jesus Christ, 30:35 it's making Him out something that's not 30:37 true about Him, but He paid for it.. 30:41 So, we have, we have so much evidence in the 30:43 scriptures that teach us contrary to what people 30:47 commonly think today. And of course you 30:48 remember the Bible says, it is the broad road 30:51 that everybody is gonna be on, oh yeah, 30:53 there's everybody believes it, so it must be true. 30:55 Have you've ever been tempted to think that? 30:57 Since everybody believes it, it must be true. 30:59 How can these brilliant theologians not 31:01 understand this and these guys have been 31:02 through seminar and everything they say the 31:04 same thing they must be right. 31:06 Now, listen to me in the time of Jesus, 31:09 the brilliant theologians was trying to kill Him, 31:13 where they right? No, do you know what 31:15 the people were saying. Well, how can they all 31:17 be wrong, they are the ones who is living, 31:19 how can Jesus be right and all of them be wrong? 31:21 People were wondering the same thing and you 31:22 know what brilliant theologians 31:23 were saying in his day. Why is it you believing 31:26 on Him, none of us believe on Him? 31:30 So you can't go about what the majority are 31:32 saying in teaching, you have to go Thus saith the Lord. 31:34 Jesus come along, He was giving in the Bible 31:36 and truth and the common people 31:38 accepted Him gladly, but did the brilliant people? 31:41 No, and it's the same thing going on today, 31:44 just because the multitude believes 31:46 things to be a certain way. If the Bible say 31:47 something different and I know it's very hard to do, 31:49 because we have that mob mentality. 31:52 You know I wanna be with everybody is right, 31:53 don't you only popular and everybody accept 31:55 me and love Messiah, don't we just tend to 31:57 want those things. And so if you stand out 31:59 and you say no, no, the Bible doesn't teach this 32:01 and I'm gonna follow the Bible. 32:02 You know, what does gonna happen? 32:03 People gonna scarf at you, they're gonna give 32:05 you hard time, they're gonna say you think 32:07 you are right, everybody else is wrong. 32:10 You might say well you know I think I'm in the 32:12 majority, because I believe what the angels 32:16 believe, I believe what God word says, right, 32:20 that is the majority. It's not the majority 32:23 as far as what we see, but it still on the list. 32:26 And so here we go carrying on, 32:30 Revelation Chapter 20 and verse 14 is where 32:32 we just came from, that's the text we just add. 32:34 Our next text we're going to is Hosea 32:36 Chapter 11 and verse 8. Does everybody know 32:38 where the book of Hosea is at? 32:41 It's in the Old Testament 32:42 right after the book of Daniel. 32:45 Daniel and the next book is Hosea. 32:46 So everybody knows how to find the book of Daniel, 32:48 we spend so much time there in the book of 32:49 Daniel, haven't we? So go to Daniel, 32:51 go one more book over and we go to Hosea 32:55 Chapter 11 and starting verse 8 what we're 32:57 looking at here. I promise while ago 32:59 remember the Bible says that the example of 33:02 Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around 33:04 about them in like manner will destroy. 33:06 Well, look what it says in Hosea Chapter 11 33:09 and verse 8, starting in verse 8 33:11 actually I believe 11:8. Oh! I gonna say I am 33:17 almost panicked there because I was reading 33:20 the wrong text and I thought have I put the 33:22 wrong text in there. The guys in the truck 33:24 are going to kill me, I got the right one. 33:26 Hosea 11:8: How shall I give thee up, Ephraim? 33:30 How shall I deliver thee, Israel? 33:33 How shall I make you as Admah? 33:36 How shall I set thee as Zeboiim? 33:38 Mine heart is turned within me, 33:40 my repentings are kindled together. 33:42 Do you know who Admah and Zeboiim are? 33:45 They were the cities that were around 33:46 Sodom and Gomorrah. And He says, and I will 33:50 show you that in just a minute, but now think 33:51 about what he is saying. How can I give you a 33:54 half of Israel and my people, how can I give 33:56 you up to be like them? He doesn't want to do 33:58 that, does he? He wants us to be saved 34:01 and He says, He says I don't want to destroy 34:03 you like I destroyed them. And how do we know, 34:05 that's who that's talking about go with me to 34:08 Deuteronomy 29 you can just make little note 34:10 there, Deuteronomy 29 and verse 23, 34:11 I will tell you that. Genesis, Exodus, 34:13 Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy 34:16 Chapter 29 and verse 23. 34:27 The whole land thereof is brimstone, and salt, 34:32 and burning, that it is not sown, nor beareth, 34:37 nor any grass groweth therein, like the 34:39 overthrow of Sodom, Gomorrah, and Admah, 34:42 and Zeboiim. Remember those two 34:43 terms, that's what they were again, 34:45 those two other places, which the Lord 34:46 overthrew in his anger, and in his wrath. 34:50 So, He's speaking here of the land there during 34:52 that time is, He says it's just like who? 34:54 Sodom and Gomorrah and Admah and Zeboiim. 34:57 Most people thought that there were only two cities 34:58 destroyed were Sodom and Gomorrah right, 35:00 just found something new. 35:01 The God says to Israel, how can I give you up 35:05 and what happened to them happened to you, 35:07 and what happen to them? 35:09 They were destroyed with what kind of fire 35:11 according to Bible? Eternal. 35:13 Yeah Jude 7 says the same. 35:15 Jude Chapter 1 and verse 7 tells 35:16 they were destroyed with eternal fire. 35:19 They're not around today 35:21 it's the results that are eternal, okay. 35:26 Now, I want somebody and I will make a challenge 35:28 to anybody here and anybody at home 35:29 for the text in the Bible that says 35:32 that the wicked gonna live forever. 35:33 You know, it's got a saying you know that 35:36 anyway you want to me say 35:37 they have a soul that lives forever, 35:39 you can see they have a spirit that lives forever. 35:42 But somehow has to say they live forever or eternal 35:45 you know give me the text. 35:47 I'm telling you, you get in your concordance out now 35:50 you are calling your pastor, 35:51 you're calling your church members 35:52 and you're saying hey. 35:53 He says there is not a text that says 35:54 they live forever, where's that text at. 35:57 And they gonna say hold on I know it's in there, 35:59 then they are gonna take their Bibles 36:00 and they will go like this 36:01 and they will go like this, 36:02 I know what's in there, I know it's in there. 36:07 And then we'll turn to, turn to Ezekiel 36:09 you know and there is a text in Ezekiel 36:12 I think that's verse says they live forever. 36:13 Let me see if I can find it real quick, 36:14 hold on there Ezekiel and I'm starting 36:18 Ezekiel Chapter 18, yeah that verse 36:20 is at Ezekiel Chapter 18 and verse 4, 36:23 that's where it says they live forever. 36:24 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, 36:28 also is the soul of the son is mine: 36:29 the soul that sinneth, it shall live forever. 36:32 What's it saying? You know we got to watch 36:35 as sometimes as preachers will misquote the text. 36:37 Yeah, in Hosea, I'm sorry in 36:40 Ezekiel Chapter 18 and verse 4 it says: 36:42 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. 36:44 The second death I might add, than we read about 36:47 Revelation, are you understanding? 36:50 There is nothing in the Bible that says 36:52 the wicked get to live forever. 36:55 It's only the righteous that are promised eternal life. 37:00 So, in order for the wicked to live forever in hell, 37:02 they will have to promise eternal life in the hell 37:04 and you don't find it in the Bible. 37:07 And you are wondering, 37:08 its like I mean this sound like, 37:10 it's got sound like a broken records 37:11 going over and over and over again. 37:13 I'm so much want to tell a story right now, 37:15 but it doesn't fit with this one exactly right. 37:17 So I'm gonna reframe, but I know the story, 37:19 actually I put this way 37:21 Somebody that had learned all this 37:23 like you've been learning here, and they believed it. 37:26 And they were getting ready to baptized 37:29 and when they got up they started, 37:31 they start up getting and they actually 37:33 begin to speak, if we wanna speak any words you know 37:35 that the congregation or anything like that. 37:39 The guy gets up and starts sprouting out 37:40 some things that he had from his past. 37:43 You know, that doesn't sound biblical 37:45 you know he started saying things 37:46 that weren't biblical and not right. 37:47 And then afterward he talked to them about it, 37:49 he said well you know I didn't realize 37:51 what I was doing? 37:52 You go through your whole life, 37:53 learning things a certain way, 37:56 and you've been taught these things in certain way, 37:58 like I went my whole childhood 37:59 I went to like 18 years old 38:01 when I started like studying the Bible, 38:02 and becoming a Christian like 19 years old. 38:04 Actually I was 22 I turned, I mean time went by fast. 38:06 I was 21 when I started studying the Bible 38:08 became a Christian at 22. 38:10 And you think wow he has been studying the Bible 38:11 for year or two, right? 38:14 Anyway I have a mindset of the way things work, 38:17 you know like the way I believe things were 38:19 and so whenever I started learning things differently, 38:21 we think what happened? 38:22 I will learn to say for instance like, like hell 38:24 doesn't burn through the ceaseless ages of eternity. 38:26 But they're gonna burn up the wicked, 38:28 but I was still like from time to time 38:30 I will make a statement that will be totally 38:31 off the wall talking about whether are we either 38:34 finding out now truth, right? 38:36 No, they are not, they are dead. 38:37 But I'm thinking, I'm put him in the hell 38:39 you know I would say things like that 38:40 because in our minds we get things in certain way. 38:44 That's like he get this groove cutting your mind 38:46 you know and it just in there 38:47 and it's hard to get it out. 38:49 And so, I'm keep repeating and reiterating things 38:52 and you wanna do this when you are giving it, 38:54 whether it's an evangelistic sermon type thing 38:56 or if you're doing a Bible study. 38:57 Did it even starting to the bother you a little bit, 38:58 because it seems repetitive, the person you're hearing. 39:00 And it's funny and I wil try to explain to you 39:03 from my point of view. 39:04 When I was first learning these things, 39:06 every time I would hear that hell burns up the wicked 39:08 it was like a new Revelation to me for a while. 39:10 You know like in the same study, 39:12 Oh! Yeah it says here that the wicked burned up 39:15 and I was like oh! Wow, it says here 39:17 that that the soul will die. 39:18 Oh! Well yeah I guess it makes sense 39:21 if you're gonna burn up, you're gonna die right. 39:22 It says here you destroyed you know like a fire 39:24 and that's a second death. 39:26 Wow, and it's almost like everything was little bit 39:28 as just saying the same thing over and over again. 39:30 But it was always new Revelation 39:31 because in my mind that's not the truth. 39:35 Yeah, I had another idea what truth was 39:36 and it wasn't based on the Bible, 39:38 it's based on my Tom and Jerry experience, right? 39:40 It's based on my cartoon and the things 39:41 I watch when I was growing up. 39:42 My theology training you might say, 39:44 never had the Bible. 39:46 So I do keep repeating things, 39:48 but when you give the study, 39:49 you wanna try to give within an hour. 39:50 But you wanna make sure you hit these points strongly. 39:54 You can give a study and show from the Bible, 39:56 that they are destruct, the wicked are destroyed, 39:59 they are destroyed, they are destroyed. 40:00 And the people go out there, 40:01 and the next time you come back and give the study 40:02 they would be like, aah I met those people 40:04 burning in hells, haven't time right now, you know, 40:07 it's not that they don't believe it 40:08 but they groove is cut, you know and they just learn 40:12 that way their whole life. 40:13 And some of you are sitting here, 40:14 you are raised in a church and thinking 40:15 how come people be so hard headed. 40:17 Well, I was preaching at a place one time. 40:20 And a lady asked me that. I was 40:22 in a... I was in a, this was a church of God place 40:26 and they didn't have a pastor that time, 40:28 they had asked me to come in and preach for them. 40:30 And so I was there preaching, you know, every Sunday, 40:33 I would go preach for them. 40:34 And I was leading them, 40:35 basically I'm leading into here. 40:36 And just a short time into it, this lady says, 40:39 you know, I just don't understand how people, 40:42 can hear you can just give him a text 40:44 right from the Bible, just give him a text. 40:46 And they just get so mad, they get so angry, 40:48 they just don't want to hear it. 40:50 And I said look, I can give you one text 40:52 from the Bible and you be mad at me and run me off. 40:55 Oh! No, we wouldn't, they just loved 40:57 and I loved them to, they were pretty sweet people. 40:58 We wouldn't do that, we love you, 41:00 you know going on about, I say okay. 41:01 You're sure you still love me, 41:03 you wouldn't run me off, 41:04 oh no, I said, I'll just give your Bible text. 41:06 Okay, what is it? John 3:16 and I quoted it, 41:12 For God so loved the world, 41:13 that He gave His only begotten Son, 41:14 that whosoever believes in him shall not. 41:15 And they said it perish, and I said but have, 41:18 and they said everlasting life. 41:20 And I said you know you just confessed 41:21 out of your own mouth that the wicked are going 41:24 to perish and not be existing anymore. 41:25 Well, you thought, let us think 41:27 I am off in your church, 41:28 you know they just get all mad, you can't say that. 41:30 Just me I guess. Okay, so anyway they're all mad. 41:34 And you know what they did, the next week 41:35 they called my wife and sit at home 41:37 while I was at work and said no, 41:38 They were telling, they don't want to come back 41:39 anymore, you know we really like 41:40 and everything anything like that. 41:41 But I told them one text, so it is a matter of even 41:46 in our own hearts, if we have a mindset 41:48 that we want to believe things in certain way. 41:50 And some one tells us something differently. 41:52 We must be willing to accept what the Bible has to say. 41:56 Right, if we're not willing to, we'll go down a path 41:59 that opposite what God would have us go. 42:01 I mean when the texts clearly says that they'll 42:03 perish that's what God means. 42:05 Now God doesn't want us to perish. 42:10 And so as I am finishing the text here, 42:11 okay, in the study, I got off a bit now 42:14 but we do this more a learning here 42:16 but in the study when I am giving 42:17 the Bible study itself, and I get to the Hosea 11:8. 42:19 And God has said to His people you know, 42:22 "How can I give you up? How can I give you up? 42:24 To do like what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah. 42:27 God doesn't want to give you up. 42:28 We're getting close the appeal time here. 42:30 Okay, you understand this is an appeal 42:31 that we're leading into. 42:32 So the leading is like, 42:33 God doesn't want to give you up. 42:36 You're His people and He doesn't want 42:37 to give up to the destruction of hell. 42:40 He doesn't want to destroy you when He destroys sin. 42:42 But if you cling to sin you have to. 42:44 And so look at God's plea, you could almost hear, 42:46 when we turn to Ezekiel Chapter 33, 42:48 our next text we're gonna go to, it's on a slide here. 42:50 When we go to the Ezekiel Chapter 33 and verse 11. 42:53 You can almost here the plea in the heart of the God, 42:59 you know as He's pleading to His people. 43:00 Look I don't want to give you up. 43:02 And look what He says here 43:04 in Ezekiel Chapter 33 and verse 11. 43:09 Who'd like to read that? 43:11 Actually I think I'll read it. 43:12 So, is this the appeal text in, 43:15 and when I give a Bible study, 43:17 I never give the appeal text 43:19 to the person who is reading it, myself, 43:21 because I want to read it, and you know 43:23 give the appeal, like give them an opportunity. 43:27 God's speaking, says unto them 43:30 as I live says the Lord, 43:32 I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked. 43:37 But that the wicked would will turn 43:38 from his wicked way, and live. 43:41 Again right there in the text, what's the options? 43:44 The death of the wicked or to turn off 43:46 from your wicked way and live. 43:48 God doesn't want to kill you, 43:49 He doesn't want to destroy you. 43:50 He wants you to live. 43:51 But He can't let you live while you are living in sin. 43:54 You understand what its saying? 43:55 Then He says this, Turn ye, turn ye from your 43:59 evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel. 44:02 Can you like hear the plea? 44:05 That God is speaking through Ezekiel here. 44:08 He doesn't want you to die. 44:10 You think God wants to destroy 44:12 people in the lake of fire? 44:13 No. He's prepared eternity for us. 44:17 But unfortunately many people 44:18 are saying you know what? 44:20 I like this world better now. 44:24 And for the people that love this world 44:27 better than they love God right now. 44:28 They're gonna receive the reward of the wicked. 44:34 Jesus says, if you love mother and your father 44:36 anything more than me you are not worthy of me. 44:39 We must love Him, we must surrender 44:42 what His will says, what His word says. 44:44 And my thought is, as I close sometimes with this 44:47 and I'm closing this right now as far as this part, 44:49 we're gonna go after this into a difficult text. 44:52 We're gonna cover this one difficult text 44:53 before we close up. 44:54 But my thought and the appeal is 44:56 God doesn't want to destroy you. 45:01 He doesn't want to, but if we continue 45:04 to go down a road that is in wrong direction, 45:08 you might say that we're clinging to sin 45:09 that He's gonna destroy the sin. 45:11 He has to destroy you with it. 45:13 He's appealing to us, to turn from 45:17 wicked way and live. 45:20 So that's kind of a powerful thought 45:22 to lead us with, isn't it? 45:23 You know also, even if you think about it,v 45:26 the idea the hell is ever burning, is an attack 45:30 on the character of God as well with this. 45:32 You know we've talked about through the study. 45:34 So not only are we been appealing to the people, 45:37 to forsake their sins. We're appealing them to 45:40 forsake the mindset that God is a tyrant. 45:43 It really, I mean, do you want to live 45:46 forever with the tyrant? 45:47 You really don't want to go to heaven 45:48 that if you think that God is a tyrant. 45:49 I wouldn't, if I really thought He was as bad 45:51 as people make Him out to be. 45:53 By the way, did you know that hell burns a lot 45:57 harder than most people think? 45:58 Now see most people think that hell doesn't burn 46:02 hard enough to burn things up. 46:03 But the hell in the Bible burns so hard 46:06 that it burns everything up. 46:07 So actually when I do my Evangelistic meetings 46:09 sometimes, I taught over the sermons, I do the hell. 46:11 I try to let out, come discover 46:13 what's harder than hell? 46:17 Right, come discover what's harder than hell? 46:19 And what is hell or destruction of the wicked? 46:23 And most people's hell doesn't burn very hard, 46:27 because it doesn't burn things up. 46:29 But this would be hard enough to melt steel. 46:33 So, okay so let us close here, 46:36 and I want to have a word of prayer. 46:38 And then we gonna ask God to guide us again 46:40 and thank Him for the study, 46:41 and help us as we present the study to others 46:44 to really have His Spirit speaking through us. 46:48 You know, as you take this now and if you've 46:50 heard it like you watch the video, 46:51 or those of you who are here that you've heard it now. 46:54 When you give the study later, 46:55 here's what you'd be surprised about. 46:57 The things you think you will never remember, 46:59 like there's no way I can give the study 47:00 and do all that. 47:01 Right, you ever feel like that? 47:03 Here's what you find, it's a faith thing. 47:05 It really takes faith because you don't know 47:07 that you can do it until you've done it, right? 47:08 So that takes faith steeping out and doing it. 47:10 But if you go and give the Bible study, 47:11 you will find out as you get to the certain point. 47:13 Like Gods gonna speak to you, 47:15 you gonna hear my voice speaking to you. 47:17 You know, what I am talking about like, 47:19 God will bring back to your memory, the things you need. 47:22 And you say oh yeah, listen, how about this, 47:24 and you start sharing things with people. 47:26 And you didn't know it's there? 47:28 But right now you don't know it's there 47:29 because you haven't shared it. 47:31 But if you watch the video 47:32 or you've been in class and you take this now, 47:35 and try to share the Bible study, 47:36 I promise you, I promise you if you go in 47:40 attitude of prayer that God will help you. 47:42 The things you need to remember, 47:43 will be remembered, and you will be able to share 47:45 with people, it will be there. 47:48 You think, ah never knew that story, 47:49 and how to apply that and do that, yes you will. 47:51 I learnt that myself, you know, 47:53 when I first start learning this. 47:54 You know, come from my hedonism 47:55 I started learning things. 47:56 And I went and I said, ah like the first time 48:00 I went to Daniel 2 the word of God's study. 48:01 I said, I'll never remember what to say? 48:03 I kind of know of them, I never remember what to say? 48:05 And the words just started coming out 48:07 like where they are coming from, you know 48:08 and just like God was speaking. 48:09 But you got to go and put yourself in a situation. 48:11 So you'll remember what to say with these studies 48:14 if you'll seek God and ask for help. 48:16 And He will give you everything 48:17 you need to remember. 48:18 So you want to give these studies. 48:20 Okay, let's pray. 48:21 Lord Jesus thank you for the study for the time 48:24 we got to spend here in your word. 48:25 And now as we go on to the difficult text 48:27 or as we discuss those for a few minutes. 48:30 I pray that it will be clear that you will help us 48:34 to have understanding that your 48:36 sweet Spirit is speaking to us. 48:37 And Lord as we share this study with others, 48:39 speak through us. I pray in Jesus name, amen. 48:42 Okay, the difficult text, 48:44 now I want to go to the first I'm going to. 48:45 I think it's on the screen. 48:46 Let's see that comes up. Yeah, 1 Peter 3, 18-20. 48:50 Did you know, did you know there is whole bunch 48:51 of people out there, and I have dealt 48:53 with some of them before that teach that, 48:55 when Jesus died, He went to hell, 48:56 have you heard this before? 48:58 Anybody, look like show hands, anybody who heard this. 49:00 Some of you had, you heard that before? 49:02 He went to hell. 49:03 And now I love this when you think about this. 49:05 Let's go to this 1 Peter Chapter 3, 49:07 and it makes no sense whatsoever. 49:09 I mean they just missed 49:11 and taken things out of context. 49:12 But 1 Peter Chapter 3, 49:16 here's what they get that Jesus went to hell. 49:20 Is every one ready? Verse 18-20 49:24 "For Christ that being Jesus, 49:26 also has once suffered for sins, 49:28 the just for the unjust, 49:29 that he might bring us to God, 49:32 being put to death in the flesh, 49:34 but being quickened by the Spirit: 49:37 By which also He went and preached 49:40 to the spirits in prison." 49:42 Now I'm gonna stop right there just for a moment 49:43 because they say ye, right there, where it says, 49:45 He preached the spirits in prison. 49:46 What He's actually saying is He went where? 49:48 Hell, where the people are imprisoned in hell, right, 49:52 suffering in fire, okay, 49:53 so Jesus went and preached to them. 49:54 Okay, now here we go, here's my illustration? 49:57 Alright, I am in hell right now, okay. Ah... 50:03 And then Jesus comes and He says, 50:04 oh, I am here. 50:05 Do you believe the Gospel now and I say, no... 50:09 Now think about it, think about it. 50:10 Can you imagine, I mean, 50:11 this illogically taken to the logical 50:13 conclusion when people say this. 50:14 You mean there's people in hell suffering, 50:17 yeah it was very pretty bad, wasn't it? 50:20 But that's what, that's the idea isn't it? 50:21 That's what having people in hell 50:22 So they are in hell they are suffering, 50:24 they are like ah... 50:25 It's awful, it's awful. 50:26 And Jesus comes and says, 50:27 do you believe now? 50:29 They say, no. They keep around going. 50:31 No, if Jesus went and preached the people 50:33 in hell, you know what happened? 50:34 Hell got cleaned out. 50:37 Right, they all went to heaven, didn't they? 50:38 Like if you are in hell burning and Jesus 50:39 comes and said, you believe the Gospel now Shalida, 50:41 what are you going to say? 50:42 Yes, so there's nobody in hell as of death of Jesus. 50:46 They got cleaned out, so God starts all 50:47 over again, He starts put us back in there. 50:49 Does that make sense to anybody? 50:51 And secondly if He actually did, 50:52 He wouldn't preach the spirits in hell. 50:54 What's the purpose of preaching? 50:55 According to the Bible the purpose of preaching, 50:57 salvation. 1 Corinthians 121, 51:00 the purpose of preaching is salvation. 51:01 So He went and preached the spirits in prison. 51:04 And now they all said it right because obviously 51:06 they all believe now. So they all went to heaven, 51:07 cleaned it out. So God started putting back 51:09 in there, put them back there again now 51:10 according to the most people's theologies, 51:12 isn't that correct? I mean we've just taken 51:13 to logical conclusion here. 51:15 So they are putting in back in prison, 51:17 putting the people back in the flames of hell. 51:19 And now, is He gonna give these people a 51:21 second chance too. Is God a God of justice 51:25 and fairness? Shalida says, He has to. 51:29 He has to give us another chance. 51:30 So don't worry, if you are dying go to hell 51:32 which most people teach you do or heaven. 51:34 You know when you die, you are right there. 51:36 He'll give another chance, don't worry. 51:37 You'd have to suffer for a while. 51:39 It's almost like a process, 51:40 process form of purgatory or something, 51:42 isn't it? Then I'm going to read the next 51:44 verse here too as this goes along with verse 20. 51:47 "Which sometimes the spirits were disobedient, 51:50 when once the longsuffering of God waited 51:52 in the days of Noah, while the ark was a 51:54 preparing, wherein few, that is, 51:55 eight souls were saved by water." 51:57 You know what it saying there simply? 51:59 The same spirit of God, that was working on 52:01 the people's heart back in the days of Noah. 52:04 And how'd they chain in prison back then? 52:06 By there sins, they were bound by sin. 52:08 I'll show you the text that shows that end 52:09 in a minute. So they are bound by the sins, 52:11 and the Spirit of God was working on them 52:12 in the days of Noah. The same Spirit is 52:13 working on people today even in Christ they 52:15 were doing that. Are you understanding? 52:17 So now let's think about that in the context, 52:19 "For Christ also once suffered the sins of just 52:21 for the unjust that He might bring us to God, 52:24 being put to death in a flesh but made alive by 52:26 the Spirit, by which also He went and preached." 52:30 What went and preached? The Spirit, 52:33 that same Sprit preached the spirits that were 52:35 imprisoned in the days of Noah. 52:37 Now does it make a little more sense? 52:39 So He spoke the same Spirit of the God, 52:41 spoke to the hearts of the people's in the days 52:42 of Noah. So they also could be saved. 52:46 But were they saved? No. Now, I am a 52:50 little hesitant right here because I have 52:51 another difficult text. And I think I'm just go 52:53 let Aleeda cover it in her study on the 52:55 State of the Dead. But who touch on? 52:57 I can give a quick answer. 52:58 I've got just a few minutes here. 52:59 Let us go to the next one here in 53:01 Luke Chapter 16. I'm turning the Bible to 53:02 Luke Chapter 16, actually I won't do that yet, 53:05 lay back up, sorry about that out in the trailer. 53:09 The guys that are running the cameras and 53:10 stuff there just haven't fed on me right now, 53:12 because I'll just go ahead and let, 53:14 we'll do Luke 16. Sorry guys, 53:18 you know when you got to obey that clock. 53:22 I'm looking forward to heaven 53:23 when there is no more clocks. 53:24 You are right, there's not going 53:25 to be clocks in heaven? 53:26 Yeah, we can just preach all day 53:28 and no one complained. 53:29 Luke 16, I'm looking forward to have Jesus speak. 53:31 I bet if He goes past 12 nobody will complain 53:33 when He preaches that first sermon, right? 53:36 Alright, Luke 16, 19-21. 53:38 This is the fifth of five parables. 53:41 Alright, this is the fifth of five parables. 53:42 You have the lost coin, the lost sheep, 53:44 the lost son, the unjust steward, 53:45 the rich man in Lazarus. That's what we are right 53:47 now, the rich man in Lazarus. 53:49 And I have got about 3 minutes to finish, 53:50 the rich man in Lazarus and we can do it. 53:52 Luke 16, 19 There was a certain rich man, 53:56 which was clothed in purple and fine linen, 53:58 and fared sumptuously every day. 53:59 Right away, is Jesus here speaking 54:01 literally or in parable? How do you know? 54:06 Matthew 13:34 says, Jesus spoke to them in 54:10 parables, and without a parable 54:11 spoke to Him nothing. He shared with the 54:13 people in parables. And you know all the 54:15 prior stories prior to this are parables. 54:17 So this is a parable, He's speaking symbolically. 54:20 A parable is something symbolic, right? 54:21 "So you have that certain rich man, 54:23 clothed in purple and fine linen 54:24 and fared sumptuously. And there was a certain 54:26 beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at the 54:28 gate, full of sores. And desiring to be fed 54:30 with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's 54:31 table moreover the dogs came and licked 54:33 up his sores. And it came to pass, 54:35 that the beggar died, and was carried by the 54:37 angels to Abraham's bosom. You know it's a parable 54:39 because the righteous don't go to 54:40 Abraham's bosom, right? If he does, 54:43 he got a big bosom. And the rich man also 54:46 died and was buried. What happened? 54:48 The rich man, where did he go? 54:49 He's buried, and then he says, in hell he lifted up 54:52 his eyes, hell being the grave here 54:54 because that's where he was, 54:55 and he's buried in the grave, right? 54:56 Being in torments and seeing Abraham 54:57 a far off and Lazarus in his bosom. 54:59 He cried and said, Father Abraham, 55:01 have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, 55:03 that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, 55:04 and cool my tongue; I am tormented in this flame. 55:07 But Abraham said, don't you remember you had 55:08 the good things in your life, likewise Lazarus 55:11 has evil things, now he is comforted, 55:12 and you are tormented. And beside all this is a 55:14 great gulf fixed: between us that they 55:17 which would pass it shall not and neither 55:19 can you come to us, that you should come from fence. 55:23 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, 55:25 Father, let you go to my father's house. 55:27 For I have five brothers, and he may testify to 55:30 them unless they also come to this place of torment. 55:33 Abraham said to Moses they have Moses, 55:36 Abraham said unto him. They have Moses and 55:38 the prophets; let them hear them. 55:39 He said, no, they won't hear him but if some 55:42 one were raised from the dead. 55:43 Then they will repent. You followed that, 55:46 and then what happens at the end? 55:48 Jesus says in the parable here, 55:51 if they won't hear Moses, neither will they 55:53 be persuaded, the one we raised from the dead. 55:55 Did you know Jesus actually did raise a man 55:56 by the name of Lazarus from the dead later on. 55:59 Did the people believed? 56:01 They still didn't believe, did they? 56:02 So what He was saying was absolutely true. 56:03 Now, we know this a symbolic, 56:04 He's speaking symbolism. And now who the rich man 56:07 represent here in the symbolism. 56:08 Who He represent? The Jews, right they 56:10 had everything, they fared sumptuously. 56:12 They had the word of God, they had everything. 56:13 And the beggar who'd He represent? 56:15 The poor Jim, with none, none of the bread 56:18 of life, the bread from God. 56:19 And he actually got a little 56:20 crumb, here and there. 56:21 And He was just taking his crumbs, right? 56:23 He was getting whatever he could from the word of God. 56:24 The parable, the parable here, 56:25 He's speaking in a parable. 56:27 And so Lazarus here, he receives of the poor things, 56:30 the very few things, the word of God 56:32 when he was there. But he trusting God what he had. 56:34 And he actually gets to be saved, and where does he go? 56:36 To Abraham's bosom or symbolically 56:39 where he was going to end up being? 56:40 In the kingdom of God, right? 56:42 He is gonna, had to end up in the kingdom of God. 56:44 But what about Lazarus, the guy had everything 56:46 when he was on earth. He ended up with nothing, 56:49 what's the parable teaching? 56:50 If you are not sharing the word of God you have, 56:52 you're not comforting those other 56:53 people you're gonna be lost too. 56:56 And those people that are taking whatever 56:57 they can get are going to be saved. 56:59 Its not teaching on a State of the Dead, 57:01 its contrary to the rest of the word of God. 57:04 Now later we cover this little more when we do 57:05 the State of the Dead study. 57:06 And as we are closing up right here, 57:07 I just want to remind everybody at home. 57:09 If you'd like to get the rest of the study 57:10 you can go the www.comeexperiencelife.com. 57:14 And you can download and watch the full course here. 57:18 And you can start this very beginning through 57:19 all the lessons studies watching on video. 57:21 Or you can just get the printout studies 57:23 and have them for yourself. 57:24 I want encourage you continue marking your 57:26 Bibles, get your Bibles all marked up as you go 57:28 through these studies. And it will be a blessing 57:30 when you start sharing your faith with other people. 57:33 So we're closing up right now. 57:35 And the next study, Aleeda is actually will 57:37 be giving next study is going to be 57:38 on the State of the Dead. We're looking 57:39 forward to see you then here at 57:41 The Lay Institute For Evangelism. |
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