Participants: Phillip Sizemore (Host)
Series Code: LOE
Program Code: LOE000016
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00:01 The harvest truly is plenteous,
00:03 but the laborers are few. 00:04 Pray you therefore the Lord of the harvest, 00:06 that he will, he will send forth 00:08 laborers into his harvest. 00:10 Also, I heard the voice of the Lord saying, 00:12 "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" 00:17 Then said I, "Here am I, send me, send me". 00:23 Life on the Edge will enable you to be 00:25 an effective harvester for the Lord. 00:27 We now invite you into our 00:29 classroom to come, experience Life. 00:43 Hello welcome again to the Lay Institute 00:45 for Evangelism, the Life on the Edge 00:46 interactive Bible study course. 00:48 You are here in beautiful Groveland, Florida. 00:52 I had to thought, I had to think about 00:54 where it was that for a minute. 00:55 I know I'm in Norman, Groveland 00:56 close to Orlando, Florida. 00:57 We are at, it sun shines 00:59 a lot but it rains everyday. 01:00 And you are here along with 01:02 the other students here at Life. 01:03 You people at home, I want to welcome you 01:05 that you know that as we go through these studies 01:08 that if you have any questions or anything 01:09 is coming up during the studies 01:11 you can go to our website www.ComeExprienceLife.com 01:15 or you can actually download 01:17 the lesson studies that we are doing here. 01:18 You will be able to watch the videos of these studies 01:20 as well, or you can get them on DVD. 01:23 We welcome any of you that are home, 01:24 I pray that you have your Bibles ready, 01:26 have them ready to go as we go into the study today. 01:29 Our study today that we will be going through 01:31 is the Destruction of the Wicked. 01:33 We are going to have a study about hell, 01:35 what is it all about hell, and so that's where 01:38 we are going to now in our study. 01:40 We are about almost half way through I guess the, 01:44 the bible studies right now aren't we 01:46 little past half way at number 11, 01:47 I think there is 24 total, 01:49 and I have to get through all these studies. 01:50 You will be able to just take your Bibles 01:52 into the home and share with other people 01:56 the word of God, even if you don't have 01:58 a printed out study all ready to go, 01:59 you can share with your Bible 02:00 when you like to be able to do that. 02:01 Yeah, a lot of us would. 02:03 And so this is where we are at right now as far 02:06 as the studies go a little almost a halfway through. 02:09 And today we are going to be looking 02:10 at the Destruction of the Wicked. 02:12 You can see it on the screen over there 02:13 the Destruction of the Wicked or DW 02:15 as how you will abbreviate in the Bible. 02:17 So whenever you go marking through your Bible 02:19 your abbreviation will be DW, 02:21 it represents Destruction of the Wicked. 02:23 Or if you have your own way of doing things 02:25 you can put H for hell, 02:26 but I use Destruction of the Wicked on mine. 02:28 And so the purpose of the study today, 02:30 here's what we have for the purpose is to show that, 02:33 the purpose of it to show the purpose of hell 02:35 is to destroy sin forever. 02:38 Many people have many misconceptions 02:40 of what hell is all about and the purpose of it 02:42 is simply to destroy sin forever. 02:44 God doesn't like sin and that's the whole reason 02:46 we are in the problem we are in today is the whole 02:48 the sin problem has this all messed up in the world. 02:52 And so whenever God finally takes care 02:54 of all the wicked, and takes care of everything 02:56 through the lesson we're gonna learn that the Bible 02:57 teaches that He destroyed sin forever. 03:00 Now the center part of the study 03:01 what we are centering upon 03:03 the Destruction of the Wicked 03:04 is that Jesus loves sinners forever too. 03:08 Jesus' love is for sinners 03:10 and He loves them forever too. 03:11 And some of you counter with the first 03:13 two statements are throwing up walls 03:15 sometimes people do that, it's like is he saying 03:17 that hell doesn't last till Jesus ages of eternity, 03:19 and burns people up. 03:21 We will find out what the Bible 03:22 has to say how is that? 03:23 We will find out what the Bible has to say with that. 03:25 Now before we get into the main part 03:27 of the study I want to invite, 03:29 invite everybody here and you at home too. 03:31 We are going to bow our heads for a word of prayer, 03:33 and ask God to guide us because the Bible says 03:36 that spiritual things are spiritually discerned. 03:38 And sometimes we have ideas and plans and things 03:41 that we think that the Bible says 03:42 and we put up a barrier, and we just have an idea 03:47 and we got to make the Bible fit 03:48 what we already believe. 03:49 And we are going to ask God to do is help us 03:51 to allow us, allow Him to teach us what His word 03:54 says through the study today. 03:55 So let us all bow our heads 03:57 as we have a word of prayer. 03:58 Father in heaven, as we open up your word, 04:01 we get into this study on the 04:03 Destruction of the Wicked what we call hell. 04:05 I pray Lord that you will soften 04:07 our minds and our hearts 04:08 to what your word is saying. 04:09 And that if we have any preconceived ideas, 04:11 if there is anything in our lives that is keeping us 04:14 from understanding what your will and your word says. 04:16 I pray that will be removed right now. 04:17 Give us open minds and hearts, 04:19 I pray in Jesus name, amen, amen. 04:22 Alright let's go into the first text, 04:23 we are going to go right into the first text 04:25 and before we get into the text 04:26 it will be on the screen here and. 04:28 Oh no, we are not going to get in the first text. 04:30 I am almost always forget this part you know. 04:32 We have a list of all the text 04:33 that we are going to have in the study, 04:35 and that's what we have now Destruction of the Wicked 04:36 a list of all the text. It starts in Matthew 25 04:39 we end in Ezekiel 33 verse 11. 04:41 And we actually have 15 texts in this study, 04:44 so you don't have to take time to mark all of them 04:47 down right now if you still looking at them 04:49 on the screen or if you guys are here because 04:51 we go through them one at a time 04:52 as we go through the study. 04:54 And also if you want a copy of the study guides 04:57 will be able to print them out. 04:58 Those that they are here in the classroom 05:00 you can get them off my computer of the, 05:02 of the server and those of you at home you can 05:06 download them from www.ComeExprienceLife.com. 05:09 You can find that the link 05:10 will be right on the front page. 05:11 So let us get into it now, 05:13 let's go the first text of the study, 05:15 it's Matthew chapter 25 in verse 41. 05:17 And let us go through just one time 05:19 a quick review here, the first one is 05:21 the Destruction of the Wicked, so you put a 1DW 05:24 and you would put it somewhere you will write 05:26 in your Bible somewhere around 05:27 the Matthew chapter 25 and verse 41, 05:30 somewhere in that section in your Bible 05:32 you would write in there 1DW, 05:35 Destruction of the Wicked. 05:37 And then in the next text you are going to, 05:39 you remember you don't have anything 05:40 on the top line for this study 05:41 right here at the first one because 05:42 this is the first text we are going to see. 05:46 The top line would have the text you came from 05:48 and since you came from nowhere, 05:50 you just put where you are going to next, 05:51 and that's Matthew 25:34. 05:53 So the first text is like that when you start 05:55 marking it in your Bible. 05:56 Now has everybody been here just curious 05:59 in the class, everybody pretty much caught up 06:00 with their Bible markings, getting them 06:01 marked up and everything like that. 06:03 How many people have four studies or more mark, 06:05 four studies or more mark? 06:06 Almost everybody alright, how about home, 06:09 you got four studies or more mark, right. 06:10 You should have you get them marked 06:13 and it's something satisfying about it to know that 06:16 you can actually go into a home or even with 06:17 a friend and study the Bible with just your Bible. 06:21 And like today's study is a very interesting one 06:24 this one, and like what happens 06:26 when you die and some of the others. 06:27 You have ever been some place 06:28 and someone says something about hell, 06:33 and say oh you know hell is this or that. 06:36 They are gonna give, they will give, 06:37 throw something out, they believe it's this way, 06:38 you say oh no but there is a text in the Bible 06:40 that says and you give them a text. 06:41 You know it's interesting when you do the markings 06:44 this way, we mark a text we are coming from, 06:45 and the text we are going to. 06:46 If you turn to just one, if you can just rememberv 06:49 one text in your Bible study, the hell study 06:51 just one text, and you turn to that text, 06:53 it will give you another text to go to. 06:54 You can go either backwards 06:56 or forward from that point. 06:57 You follow what I am saying. 06:58 And so if you can just remember one text 06:59 you are able to do the whole study with somebody 07:01 right on the fly like that and it's pretty fun 07:03 to be able to do that and have an answer from the 07:05 word of God, so is that making sense, right. 07:08 So, the first text here at Matthew 25:41, 07:11 I start to study off something like this there, 07:13 here we talk about hell. 07:15 You know most people will think when they 07:16 think of hell, they think of this really hot 07:18 spot in the earth, down in center of the earth, 07:20 that's the general terms and thoughts is 07:22 going on in the world today in Christianity 07:23 and other places, and the devil is down there 07:25 with a pitchfork and he has got the back 07:27 the little horns sticking up and the tail, 07:29 and he is prodding the sinner and making sure 07:31 he could prod properly and everything like that. 07:33 You know you have read all that 07:34 and heard about all that, right. 07:35 Well the question I want to ask you though 07:38 who was hell prepared for. I mean who is hell for, 07:41 is it for us, is that one God actually intended hell 07:44 for us is to take you and me and put us in the 07:46 center of the earth and turn us over make sure 07:48 we are cooking evenly and things like that, 07:49 is that what he has prepared hell for? 07:51 Right or who is it prepared for. 07:53 Matthew chapter 25 and verse 41, Matthew 25:41 07:57 has the answer to that. 07:58 Does anybody like to read that one here, 08:00 Matthew 25 and verse 41? I am going to pick on 08:03 right here in the center at Shalida here, 08:04 I am going to have her read it for me, 08:06 Matthew chapter 25 and verse 41. 08:10 And Tim I saw you raise your hand so the next text 08:13 we are going to is Matthew chapter 25:34 08:15 and when she gets done and after we get 08:18 discussing that text you can have that one. 08:20 So you can have Matthew chapter 25 and verse 34 next. 08:22 So Shalida tell me who is hell prepared for. 08:26 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, 08:29 Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, 08:33 prepared for the devil and his angels. 08:36 Alright so who is hell prepared for, 08:39 assuming like what is God who they have 08:41 prepared for the devil and his angels. 08:43 He has no intensions really like when he 08:45 created Adam and Eve there in the Garden of Eden. 08:46 He didn't say you know what I am going to 08:48 create mankind, so I have somebody 08:49 to throw in the hell. Right, who it was created for? 08:53 The devil and his angels, so the devil and his angels 08:55 they fall, they have been cast out of the earth. 08:57 We've learned through those studies that 08:58 they are here to earth now and God says 09:00 hell is going to be for them. 09:01 That's he have it for, he doesn't have really 09:03 an intention on putting us there but he has a dilemma, 09:06 a problem and we will find out 09:07 what that is as we move along. 09:09 So hell is created for the devil and his angels. 09:11 Now I got to also park here just for a minute 09:13 because in this study right from the beginning 09:14 the first text we read says, 09:16 it says you curse unto everlasting fire. 09:21 But I want you to notice something here. 09:22 It doesn't say they have everlasting life, 09:25 it says that the fire is everlasting, okay. 09:28 And we will get into the whole idea of 09:30 everlasting fire and that kind of things 09:32 we move along in the study, 09:33 but just, just wanted to bring that up 09:34 at the very beginning that it says everlasting fire 09:36 is what the devil and his angels are cast to. 09:38 That's what the plan is for them, 09:39 so if we are not if God didn't plan on like 09:41 creating us just so that he can send us to hell. 09:43 Tim tell me what did he create for us, 09:46 what plans did the devil or the God 09:49 actually originally have for us 09:50 whenever he first created us? 09:54 This is Matthew chapter 25 and verse 41. 09:56 Let me get the slide on the screen of 34 09:58 rather Matthew 25:34 and you can see it 10:00 on the screen there that's the next text. 10:02 And you did Destruction of the Wicked 10:03 the verse here and Matt's going to, 10:06 Tim is going to be reading it for us Matthew 25:41. 10:09 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, 10:15 Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom 10:18 prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 10:20 So Matthew 25:34 says that the kingdom 10:23 was prepared for who? 10:25 For us, right he is going to say that those 10:28 on his right hand those people that oftenly saved 10:29 and the kingdom of God is prepared for us 10:33 since when, since when it was prepared for us, 10:35 the foundation of the world. 10:37 So God originally had a plan for all of us, 10:39 and that plan was that we be 10:41 in his kingdom and live forever. 10:42 You know he promises the righteous eternal life, 10:44 and but that's not so for the wicked. 10:47 He has something else planned for them now 10:49 and the devil, his fallen angels and the wicked 10:52 are all going to go to that same place. 10:54 Now I want to ask you a question because 10:57 this is like the key thing, one of the key things 11:00 to this study right here and it's, 11:02 when I was a heathen, and I was raised completely 11:05 out of church and things like that. 11:06 I mean I went to church a few times growing up. 11:08 Well my grandmother would drag me and you know 11:11 I went twice on Sunday you know Christmas and Easter, 11:12 that's when we would go and we would do the, 11:14 I would do the church thing or any other time 11:17 she would kind a get me up make me go. 11:19 But my ideas of hell and what happens 11:22 when you die and all these things, 11:23 it didn't come, it didn't come from the Bible. 11:26 You know I got my ideas from something other 11:28 than the Bible. I thought that hell like we already 11:31 discussed was in the center of the earth, 11:32 and the devil was down there and you ever wonder 11:34 where we get those ideas and theology from. 11:37 Yeah from the TV, I am making a 11:39 confession to you, before I became a Christian 11:40 I started studying the Bible. 11:42 I got my theology from Tom and Jerry. 11:44 You all know what Tom and Jerry is right, 11:46 it's the cat, mouse cartoon you see on TV. 11:48 As I grew up watching all the TV I could, 11:50 I mean just filled my mind with that stuff 11:51 all growing up. It's a wonder that God has 11:53 done anything with me in my life you know because 11:55 I have filled my mind with so much garbage. 11:56 But I would watch Tom and Jerry 11:59 all growing up now, no I am not saying 12:00 that's total garbage but you know some like 12:02 Christian things and it has some bad theology to it, 12:04 because when I would watch that show 12:06 and other cartoons as well, you know the cat 12:08 he would have the mouse there and he be, 12:10 he may pounce on him over something 12:11 and a anvil would fall on the cat's head 12:13 dropping down to the floor something 12:14 and he would die. And then what happen 12:16 when this cat would die, what would happen to him. 12:17 Do you remember? Yeah he will start floating 12:19 down into the center of the earth, 12:20 right he would go down, and down and shoving up 12:23 the course of the earth and it will start 12:24 getting harder and harder right and then when 12:26 he would get there, there would be this big 12:28 cauldron of boiling lava, and there would be 12:31 a bulldog and the bulldog would have the horns, 12:34 and he would have the pitchfork and a tail 12:35 and he would go, and he would take the cat 12:37 and stick it down that cauldron bowl, 12:39 that bowl in cauldron and holding down in 12:41 and the cat just be squealing try to get out. 12:42 That was on a cartoon right and then the cat 12:44 would wake up and he would be having a dream 12:46 and he will be laying in front of fireplace 12:47 and fire be coming out of the fireplace hitting him 12:50 on the back and that's what his dream was about right. 12:53 But here I think is interesting about that, 12:54 that along with what my Christian friends 12:57 would tell me is where my theology came from. 13:00 The devil is in the center of the earth and he is 13:03 making sure all the sinners cook appropriately. 13:05 They are all down in the center of the earth 13:06 cooking appropriately, and what's funny about that is 13:09 you don't find that anywhere in the Bible. 13:11 You don't find that teaching anywhere in the Bible, 13:13 but Christians teach it. Christians teach it 13:16 and you know and then, those of us who were heathens 13:20 and have come into the church we believed it 13:22 coming in because that's what we had 13:23 always been taught. Now I usually when I 13:25 give this Bible study I do park on this point 13:27 for little while because this is the common 13:29 thing out there. This is like, this is a 13:31 common theology among the heathen 13:33 and even Christians often times. 13:35 So I like to ask this question 13:37 after I go through that little scenario. 13:38 Where on earth is hell anyway, 13:40 where on earth is hell? 13:42 The answer is yes, where on earth is hell, 13:46 the answer is absolutely yes. 13:48 I said what you are talking about? 13:50 Go with me to the next text 13:51 Revelation chapter 20 verses 5 through 9. 13:53 We are going to go on our left side of here to 13:55 Do Soung and ask him to read 13:56 Revelation chapter 20 verses 5 through 9. 13:58 And as he is looking it up and getting there 14:00 I just want to keep, have everybody keep in mind 14:03 if you want to find these texts at before we 14:06 get to them, before we turn to them you can 14:07 go to the website and download the study, 14:09 and it's all in the study guide before we, 14:11 that we can kind a keep ahead if you 14:13 want to keep up with what we are doing. 14:15 So Do Soung, Revelation chapter 20 verses 5-9. 14:17 We are going to be answering the question, 14:18 where on earth is hell? Go ahead. 14:22 But the rest of the dead lived not again until 14:25 the thousand years were finished. 14:26 This is the first resurrection. 14:29 Blessed and holy is he that has part in the first 14:32 resurrection: on such the second death has no power, 14:36 but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, 14:40 and shall reign with him a thousand years. 14:42 And when the thousand years are expired, 14:44 Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 14:47 and shall go out to deceive the nations 14:49 which are in the four quarters of the earth, 14:53 Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: 14:56 the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 14:59 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, 15:02 and compassed the camp of the saints about, 15:05 and the beloved city: and fire came down from 15:09 God out of heaven, and devoured them. 15:11 Oh it's a very interesting statement isn't? 15:13 So what you find here is this great battle, 15:15 you have, you have the whole context of all that text 15:18 I could actually park on this and preach a sermon 15:20 from this from verses 5 through 9, 15:21 but I will refrain myself, 15:23 I will try to resist best I can but you will 15:25 notice here says this is a first resurrection blessed 15:27 and holy if he has part in the first resurrection. 15:30 So if you are in a first resurrection you are to 15:32 be happy why because it says on him 15:34 the second death has no power, right. 15:35 But then there is a second resurrection 15:37 and what happens to those who come up 15:38 in a second resurrection according to 15:39 what we look at in this text. 15:41 What happens in a second resurrection, 15:43 does anybody want to take a stab at it. 15:44 They are cast into the lake of fire, right. 15:47 And look what happens to them in the lake of fire, 15:49 verse 9 what happens to them, they are devoured. 15:52 Now you understand what the word 15:54 devoured means, right. You will notice that 15:57 all through the Bible you have nothing in the Bible 15:59 anywhere that promises the wicked eternal life. 16:02 As matter of fact, what you find out it 16:04 happens to the wicked and the Bible says 16:05 they are devour or they are destroyed. 16:08 Now if you don't know devour is, I can give you, 16:10 I can give you a little clue and a kind of give 16:12 you little help it help you understand. 16:14 After we get done in class today, if you wanna 16:16 take me out to Taco Bell for lunch, 16:17 I can show you what devoured is. 16:20 Right, when I eat that food, it will be gone in 16:23 no time, I will do it pretty quickly, right? 16:25 And you will never see it again, 16:26 and it's gone it's devoured, 16:27 and so to have an idea that the wicked keep 16:31 right on living, and living and living 16:32 you know in the fires of hell, when the Bible 16:35 says in Revelation 12:9 here and other places 16:38 that we are gonna look at, 16:39 that he actually devour them, 16:41 okay so they are devoured, that's what happens 16:45 to the wicked and where does it happen at? 16:47 Where did it say it happens? 16:48 On the earth, so the answer to the question is 16:52 the wicked are devoured, where is hell at? 16:55 On the earth, interesting statement isn't it? 16:59 Had you ever heard that before? 17:00 I know mostly you have probably heard that, 17:02 but there are other people sitting, 17:03 probably some people sitting at home right now 17:05 and say what? Hell is on the earth, 17:08 right that's the question many people ask, 17:09 but according to Bible what we looked at 17:12 so far that's exactly what takes place. 17:14 Now as we go on to the next text I probably 17:16 got way behind myself, because I should 17:17 already had Revelation 25 verse 9 on there. 17:19 So, I'll just throw up on the screen just 17:21 for a minute, so they can see what it looks like. 17:22 The Destruction of the Wicked, the third verse 17:25 there Revelation 20 verse 5 throgh 9. 17:27 And now as we are finishing up 17:30 with Revelation 20:5 through 9 17:32 as we go to the next text. 17:33 The question we are gonna ask now, 17:35 where on earth is hell? 17:36 We know where on earth hell is, 17:39 its on earth, but when it's gonna take place, 17:41 because obviously if hell is gonna be on earth, 17:45 it's not here now although some people 17:48 might disagree with that. Getting my life right, 17:51 but the actual literal meaning of hell with the 17:54 burning of the fire and things like that, 17:55 the Bible teaches that it's gonna be here but 17:58 when its gonna place and that's what 18:00 we are gonna be answering now. 18:01 As we go to Job chapter 21 and verse 30. 18:05 Job 21:30 that's the and then you will see 18:09 often the side of that when you look at the screen 18:12 here that they also have, 2 Peter 3:4-7, 18:14 both text basically say the same thing. 18:16 And so usually when I give the study 18:19 I will go to both text, I'll actually use 18:22 both of them, but not always. 18:23 So, if you wanna just do with this way with the 18:24 bracket you don't have to go the other one, 18:26 but you can if you need to. 18:27 So, Job chapter 21 in verse 30 as we are going to now 18:31 in Old Testament book of Job. 18:35 You know for those of you that may heard at home 18:40 that somebody cell phone going off. 18:42 It's perfectly alright because they are used to 18:44 hit doing that, you know people hear that 18:45 they think well there must be everyday people 18:47 they actually live in the real world, 18:49 because that's what happens, Job 21 verse 30. 18:52 You know I was preaching in church one time 18:53 and my head elder was sitting up front, 18:54 those of the Mike Mutt when we get, we will in turn 18:58 to be ready for it but I was preaching in my church 19:00 one time sitting up front, my head elder was sitting 19:01 back here, and I was just making a good point 19:03 in the sermon, and a cell phone starts ringing. 19:06 And instead of ignoring it, I just kind of made 19:09 an example out of poor guy you know I stopped, 19:11 I turned around, and he is like this. 19:14 You know he is patting himself down all 19:15 over and he is frantic you know. 19:16 And he finally gets his cell phone out he, 19:18 he start hitting the button I said no, no, no, no 19:19 just tell him you are busy right now you know. 19:21 Anybody his friend will be calling he will be 19:23 in church on Sabbath morning, right. 19:26 So, anyway we understand no hard feelings 19:31 here make sure you turn them all though. 19:33 Those of you at home turn your cell phones off, 19:35 so you don't get interrupt because 19:36 devil is gonna call you right now, 19:37 keep you from going through the study. 19:39 Right, he will pinch somebody to call you. 19:41 Alright Revelation chapter, I'm sorry 19:43 Job chapter 21 verse 30. 19:44 And the question is where on earth is hell? 19:46 When this all gonna take place, 19:48 and Mike is he gonna take place now, 19:49 or just some time in the future, 19:51 I want you to let us know. 19:52 Alright, that the wicked is reserved 19:54 to the day of destruction? 19:55 They shall be brought forth to the day of wrath. 19:59 Oh, so it's interesting, that Job says 20:01 that the wicked are reserved, 20:03 in other words are kept in a holding place until when? 20:05 The day of destruction, so there is gonna be a day, 20:09 the God is gonna do what to the wicked? 20:11 Destroy them isn't that interesting, 20:13 the context of the text there, Job is writing here, 20:16 Job is like the oldest book in the Bible 20:18 we understand, and you know his whole infliction 20:20 everything he went through, and God's comforting him 20:22 saying Job you may think that the wicked 20:25 are getting over something right now, 20:26 but don't worry they are too gonna pass on 20:28 and they are gonna be held, they are gonna 20:30 be waiting until the day of destruction, 20:32 and God is gonna bring them forth for that purpose, 20:34 for destruction, right? Now we can also find 20:40 in the New Testament text refer to the same thing 20:41 and we will go ahead and hit that for doing 20:43 the study right now and see what says in 20:44 2 Peter chapter 3, I will go ahead and read that, 20:46 when I will get to 2 Peter the 3rd chapter. 20:49 Still the same slide up on the screen 20:51 and we are gonna look at verse 4. 20:56 Peter prophesying down into the last days 20:59 of this earth history, and he says something 21:00 is gonna be taking place at that time. 21:03 There is gonna be people saying I will 21:05 give you just a minute to get there. 21:07 2 Peter chapter 3 verse 4 says, they will be saying, 21:11 Where is the promise of his coming? 21:13 For since the fathers fell asleep, 21:15 all things continue as they have from the beginning 21:21 of the creation the Bible says. 21:22 For this they are willingly ignorant of, 21:25 that by the word of God the heavens of old, 21:30 and then the earth standing out of the water 21:32 and in the water. Whereby the world that then was 21:35 being overflowed with water perished. 21:38 So, he first of all he says you know back 21:39 in the days of the flood, the earth the people 21:42 that was living back then, ended up being 21:44 destroyed by water they perished, 21:45 what happened to them? 21:47 They perished, and look what it says in the next verse. 21:49 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, 21:51 by the same word kept in store, reserved, 21:54 just like Job said the reserved right, 21:55 unto fire against the day of judgment 21:58 and the perdition of ungodly men. 22:01 You know what the term perdition of 22:02 ungodly men means right? 22:04 And he is the destruction, got to do away with them. 22:05 So, we are according to Peter here 22:08 what about the wicked? 22:09 What he say about the wicked is gonna happen 22:11 to them, are they being destroyed right now 22:12 according to Peter? What's he say about them? 22:14 They are reserved until the day of perdition 22:17 of the day of judgment when they are destroyed. 22:19 So, just like the people on days of Noah 22:22 they perished in the water right 22:24 that's what the Bible says? 22:25 Also when you look on into the days of our day 22:29 and the day of judgment they are gonna be 22:31 destroyed with what? With fire exactly right, 22:34 so they are gonna be destroyed in the fire of hell. 22:36 So, we had find here twice now the term destruction 22:39 or being destroyed the reserved 22:40 and to be destroyed. And again we are gonna go ahead 22:44 and make the point, that no where in the Bible, 22:47 I will just challenge you to find the one text for me 22:50 where God promises the wicked eternal life? 22:53 The wicked's promise to them is destruction, 22:56 as a matter of fact the simplest text 22:57 and the most basic text, and almost like everybody 23:00 in the whole Bible knows, 23:01 everybody in the Bible knows a certain text. 23:02 I mean anybody has ever heard of the Bible 23:04 know certain text. If you have ever watch a 23:06 football game or baseball game on television. 23:08 One text do you often see in the background, 23:11 somebody hold the sign and hang it off the banners, 23:14 what do you see? John 3:16 right? 23:17 That text right there is one of the most powerful text 23:19 approved that the wicked do not have eternal life. 23:21 Now some people say, well I know 23:23 the wicked don't have eternal life. 23:24 But I want you to think for this conclusion you have. 23:27 If you insist the wicked burn for ever in hell, 23:30 then what you are also insisting that the wicked 23:32 have eternal life, and the Bible doesn't promise that, 23:35 look when now we go to slide here now. 23:37 John 3:16, so we're on the fifth text 23:40 under the structure of the wicked John 3:16 23:44 and we gonna find out now 23:45 that the wicked don't have eternal life. 23:48 Now I see by turning in the Bible surely 23:51 don't have to turn your Bible to quote this one. 23:52 Alright who would like to have the privilege 23:55 of quoting the text John 3:16? 23:57 Alright you are gonna do for us, 23:59 you are gonna quote for us John 3:16? 24:00 Okay, before you do that, well go ahead do right now 24:05 Vanessa you are ready to read John 3:16? 24:07 Yeah, okay you cannot use your Bible, okay, 24:11 I know, you cannot use your Bible, alright 24:12 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only 24:15 begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him 24:18 shall not perish, but have everlasting life. 24:20 Okay, who believe in him shall not be what? 24:23 Perish. But, have what? Everlasting life. 24:25 Okay, according to Jesus himself Vanessa 24:27 according to Jesus what's the two options you have? 24:30 Come on now, what's the two options 24:33 you just said them, you just said them 24:34 the two options the wicked will? 24:35 Perish, the righteous will? Have everlasting life. 24:38 Two options and who is speaking here 24:39 tell me who is speaking, 24:40 it's red in your Bible who is speaking? 24:41 Jesus, Jesus is speaking. 24:42 So, Jesus himself as He speaks to His disciples 24:45 as He speaks to the whole world basically right, 24:47 you find the text written there, 24:49 Jesus says the two options are this, 24:50 perishing or everlasting life. 24:53 You know this would have been a great time 24:55 for Jesus to say something like this. 24:57 The option here is for those, let me read quote 25:01 John 3:16 in context of much of Christianity, 25:04 and much of teaching today, 25:05 what I used to believe. 25:06 For God so loved the world, 25:07 that he gave his only begotten Son, 25:08 that whoever believes in him 25:09 shall not have everlasting life in hell, 25:11 but have everlasting life in heaven. 25:12 Would it had been appropriate time 25:14 for him to say that, 25:16 would have been good for him to say right there, 25:17 I mean if that's what the truth was, 25:18 but what he say? Perish or everlasting life. 25:23 That text in itself is like to me 25:26 when I first became a Christian, 25:28 and I really realize what that was 25:30 saying that was Jesus was saying 25:31 perishing is not living for ever. 25:33 But, now wait a minute, wait a minute 25:35 I do realize that there are some 25:38 text in the Bible, that seem kind of 25:40 contradictory to that. 25:41 But, here is what you gonna understand, 25:42 we are gonna go to this text next. 25:43 We are gonna address this whole for ever 25:45 and everything, but here is 25:46 what you got to remember. 25:47 Nowhere do the wicked get promised eternal life. 25:54 You don't have it, 25:56 so if you don't have the wicked being 25:58 promised eternal life, 25:59 you do have the wicked 26:00 being promised to be destroyed, 26:02 destruction, perishing, never lasting anymore, 26:05 being gone, right you have these promises 26:08 in the Bible of the wicked. 26:09 And but you have a couple of texts 26:10 that seem to say something else, 26:11 one or two things have to happen? 26:13 We have to throw out all the text 26:16 and say they perished, 26:17 they are destroyed, they no longer exist, 26:19 those texts have to go, 26:20 or we have to understand those texts, 26:22 and the meaning of them in context of the text 26:26 that says forever and ever. 26:27 What does forever and ever mean, 26:29 and what's it talking about it, 26:30 you understand what I'm saying? 26:31 Because if you don't, 26:32 if we don't understand this, 26:33 we're gonna look at this, 26:35 and we go ahead and go to the slide here, 26:36 so you can get your Bibles at home ready 26:37 and everybody else, 26:38 Revelation chapter 20 verses 5 through 9 26:39 is we are going to next. 26:40 Oh I mess up there? 26:41 Oh okay, alright the slide is wrong, 26:46 so you have to fix that, 26:47 the next text we are going to after John 3:16, 26:49 was I alright John 3:16. 26:51 Yeah Revelation 14 now, 26:52 I'm sorry my mistake we were at John 3:16 26:55 and the next we are going to is 26:57 Revelation chapter 14. 26:58 I got to keep up with my little clicker thing, 27:00 I can show up with the slides 27:02 on the screen don't I? I get confused myself, 27:04 Revelation 14 9 through 11, 27:07 and we are gonna address now the whole idea. 27:09 Doesn't the Bible say that it's forever 27:11 and ever and ever and if it does, 27:13 we do have a text that teaches that the 27:16 wicked live forever, and ever, and ever, 27:17 and ever in hell. 27:18 What do you do with the text like 27:20 we just read in John 3:16 were Jesus says 27:21 they perish, right? 27:23 If there is a contradiction in the Bible, 27:25 then I'm ready to just pitch it because 27:29 how do we know who is right, 27:30 who is wrong, 27:31 you know how can I trust it. 27:32 So, the contradictions have to come together, 27:34 and we have to find out if when we see 27:36 a seeming contradiction is with the Bible 27:38 or with us and like 10 times out of 10 27:41 the issue is not the Bible, 27:42 the issue is us, right? 27:45 So, let's read this text now, 27:46 in Revelation chapter 14 verse 9 through 11 27:49 and Darlene do you have that ready right here? 27:51 Alright Revelation 14 9 through 11 Darlene, 27:55 go ahead. 27:56 Then a third angel followed them, 27:57 saying with a loud voice, 27:58 "If any man worship the beast and his image, 28:02 and receive his mark on his forehead 28:05 or on his hand, he himself shall also 28:08 drink of the wine of the wrath of God, 28:11 which is poured out in full strength 28:14 into the cup of His indignation. 28:16 He shall be tormented with fire 28:19 and brimstone in the presence of the 28:21 holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 28:24 And the smoke of their torment 28:26 shall ascend forever 28:27 and ever; 28:28 and they shall have no rest day or night, 28:31 who worship the beast and his image, 28:33 and whoever receives the mark of his name. 28:37 So, according to the Bible here 28:39 what we just read in the Bible especially 28:41 we get on verse 11 is talking about 28:42 the wrath of God being poured out on people, 28:44 you know we went to that part of the text 28:45 and is gonna be poured out up on the wicked 28:46 and then it says and a smoke of their torment 28:48 ascends up, for how long? 28:49 Forever and ever; 28:51 and they have no rest day or night, 28:53 who worship the beast and his image, 28:54 and whoever receives the mark of his name. 28:57 So, most people or many people will turn to that, 29:00 now I can remember, 29:01 I don't know if I'm allowed to do this or not, 29:03 because it's gonna be aired all over the place, 29:05 but I'm just gonna be myself and they can edit it 29:06 out if they have to. 29:07 So, I remember when I was growing up, 29:09 and I had this friend I was about 10 years old 29:11 I had this friend, he went to this Baptist church, 29:12 its just up the way from me. 29:13 And he wanted me to go to church with him, 29:16 and I like said I was about 10 and my mom 29:20 made friends with his mom. 29:21 So, my parents were friends with his parents 29:22 and that kind of thing. And I remember my mom 29:25 actually at one time we went for about 29:27 three four weeks in a row. 29:28 She started going to church, 29:29 they invited her to church, 29:30 so we started to go to this church up 29:32 there with them. And I remember 29:33 one night this is what, 29:34 this is one of things that may be just 29:35 almost not ever want to become a 29:36 Christian or anything. 29:37 This was the, this night this one time 29:39 in history it's kind of funny 29:40 when you think about how your life turns 29:42 and things isn't it? 29:43 But, we went up to this Baptist church 29:45 and it was a Sunday night service 29:48 and me and my friend and bunch of others, 29:51 young ones about 10 years old, 29:52 11 years old 12 of that age 29:53 was all sitting in one row. 29:55 And a preacher was preaching a sermon 29:56 about the love of God. 29:57 I can remember that because 29:58 he kept on that love, love, love, 30:00 love all through you know just love, love, love. 30:02 At the end of the sermon he tries to get 30:04 everybody in my view. 30:05 Now you got to understand 30:06 where I'm coming from for those of you 30:07 that are you know like been in the church 30:09 a whole life and things like that you may never 30:10 understand what people from outside 30:12 were coming from right. 30:13 But, in my view whenever they at the end of 30:15 every service whenever they try to get somebody 30:17 to come up and be baptized they are wanting me 30:19 to come up and join their club, 30:20 I thought it was a club, 30:21 you know like my friends and I have clubs 30:22 we have been in stuff right? 30:23 And so I'm gonna go up 30:24 and they want me to join their club, 30:25 and by the way if you don't join our club, 30:27 this is what I was hearing right. 30:29 Let me tell you what's gonna happen to you, 30:31 so after the sermon on the love of God, 30:33 if you don't join our club something 30:35 could happen you tonight. 30:37 If you go out of here and you don't 30:38 come up here now, 30:39 something gonna happen tonight on the way home, 30:40 you could die in car wreck, 30:41 and if you die in a car wreck, 30:43 and you haven't come up here 30:44 and then baptize that's what they are saying. 30:45 In my mind I hear like join the club right. 30:47 If you don't come and do that, 30:49 remember I'm just a kid you are gonna burn 30:52 through the ceaseless ages of eternity in hell, 30:54 and they reference this text here right, 30:56 they reference this text. 30:57 And then it tells me this, 30:58 they tell the kids he says okay 30:59 I wanna talk to the kids right now. 31:00 I want you to understand what decision 31:02 you need to make here, right. 31:03 He says it's about like this, 31:04 this is true because it stuck in my mind 31:07 like you have some memories 31:08 when you are kid they just stick out forever 31:10 do you have any, 31:11 for ever not in real forever 31:12 but you know for ever as long you live. 31:13 And if you don't let me tell you 31:17 what hells is gonna be like, 31:18 and then he begins to explain, 31:21 he says it's about like your mom 31:22 when you get home taking you 31:24 and putting you into the oven 31:25 and shutting the door and latching it, 31:27 and it's dark in there. 31:28 And she turns it on high 31:30 and all the pain that you had its as painful 31:34 it could be and it's like oh it just the heat 31:35 is so much, but as much as you want to go ahead 31:37 and just die you won't be able to. 31:38 You have to stay alive and forever and ever 31:42 and ever this when you are sins and you think 31:44 there could be sins no more, 31:45 you still be burning, 31:46 and you can never stop it 31:48 and you will do that through that ceaseless 31:49 ages of eternity and then it's like who was 31:51 gonna get baptize. 31:52 And the kids were running you now 31:53 all the different ones, 31:54 and I was scared held in the seat, 31:55 I was so afraid and then we got home that night, 31:57 I can remember being so protective about it. 31:59 And I was like I never wanna go back 32:00 there never and my brother was in 32:02 same way and we never went back, 32:03 we never went back after that scared me to death. 32:06 And that's what I thought hell was, 32:08 and I got to thinking about it. 32:09 Even at like 10 years old I got thinking about it. 32:11 I have been that bad 32:13 and I'm gonna if something happens to me 32:15 I got to burn for ever for just like 10 years 32:19 of Ben who I am, 32:20 I mean it just shocked me clearly, 32:22 it was just to much, 32:24 and so I was just turned off going to churches 32:26 and things like that. 32:27 That's one of the reasons that the study mean 32:31 so much to me, 32:32 because I think it's mischaracterizes God. 32:35 The common belief and hell burning for ever, 32:38 mischaracterizes God, 32:39 it's not a God of love. 32:40 If he is gonna put, 32:42 if he is gonna create me. 32:45 Did anybody here have the choice to be created, 32:47 anybody? Now let's just think about his logic, 32:49 you didn't have choice, did you? 32:50 So, God makes you come into existence, right. 32:53 He gives you only a limited space and time 32:55 on this planet of this earth right. 32:57 And you make wrong decisions 32:58 and you don't ever learn to love his son 33:01 and appreciate the sacrifices been made, 33:03 you never learned any of these things. 33:04 And then on top of that because of you 33:07 never learning to appreciate 33:08 that you are gonna die, 33:10 and then you are gonna spend the ceaseless 33:11 ages of eternity burning in hell. 33:13 I'm like you know I won't to do that to my kids, 33:17 I mean look like Loren and I came together 33:20 they didn't have choice but come in this earth, 33:21 he procreated right we have our kids there. 33:23 And because my kids had been really, 33:24 really bad I'm gonna spank them for how long, 33:26 forever? No it never makes sense to me. 33:30 Christianity this one of the things, 33:32 it was a hang up for me, 33:33 because they never really make sense. 33:35 Now there are some people out there 33:36 right now probably at home like 33:38 jumping up down yelling at the TV 33:39 but it says forever, 33:40 but it says forever you know 33:42 I felt like this some times 33:43 when I watch somebody on TV 33:44 or hear him on the radio you know. 33:46 But let's find out what it means. 33:48 Remember Jesus says they are gonna perish, 33:50 the smoke of their torment ascend up 33:53 forever and ever. 33:54 You will notice here, 33:55 it doesn't say the people live for ever and ever 33:56 for we go any further. 33:57 The smoke of their torment ascend 33:58 with that forever and ever. 33:59 No rest they have day or night. 34:00 So, how does, how can we explain this, 34:03 let us look in other places in the Bible 34:04 where the term forever is used, 34:06 and see if there is certain times 34:09 in the Bible that use the term forever, 34:10 but it just means for indefinite period of time. 34:13 You have been to Wal-Mart, 34:15 and everybody has been to Wal-Mart of course, 34:17 you have been to Wal-Mart and you say 34:18 man I think like that place is so packed out 34:21 I had to wait in line for ever. 34:22 Did you wait in line for ever? 34:24 No, you waited in line what seem like for ever, 34:26 but eventually you got to the line 34:27 didn't you because you here now, right. 34:29 So, let us look now at the text Isaiah chapter 34 34:32 verses 8 through 10, 34:34 Isaiah chapter 34 verses 8 through 10, 34:36 and I think we will have Jessica 34:38 here read that. Can you read that 34:40 for us Jessica in the middle and the back here, 34:42 Isaiah 34 verses 8 through 10, 34:45 let me get there myself hold on, 34:47 I wanna get there myself, 34:48 I found that on myself while ago 34:50 I was reading and I still don't know yet. 34:51 Isaiah 34 where' that in your Bible, 34:54 somewhere right in the middle isn't it? 34:56 If you kind of get in the middle some where 34:57 it's after the book of Psalms, 34:58 Proverbs, Ecclesiastes 34:59 and back before the book of Daniel, 35:01 got Ezekiel, and Daniel, 35:02 going back to the left so Isaiah 35:05 and we are gonna look at the 34 chapter 35:06 and verses what? 8 through 10 okay, 35:11 hold the microphone up to when you read, 35:12 okay go ahead. For it is the day 35:17 of the Lord's vengeance, 35:18 the year when Edom will be paid back 35:22 for all it did to Israel. 35:24 The streams of Edom will be filled with 35:27 burning pitch, and the ground 35:30 will be covered with fire. 35:31 This judgment on Edom will never end; 35:35 the smoke of its burning will rise forever. 35:38 The land will lie deserted from generation 35:42 to generation. No one will live there anymore. 35:46 Isn't it interesting so speaking of Edom, 35:49 Edom actually I guess I follow you there, 35:51 follow your lead speaking of Edom 35:53 it says that, it says that 35:54 they will burn for how long? 35:56 I wanna touch this again real quick 35:57 there how long will it burn? 35:59 Forever right, now today is Edom burning? 36:02 No, they were actually destroyed in this burn, 36:04 they can go there and walk to they 36:05 and is nothing there right it's burned up. 36:08 But it says it it's gonna burn forever 36:09 so when the Bible says here speaking of Edom 36:12 and it said there was gonna burn forever 36:13 and ever, how long was that forever? 36:15 Until it was done, 36:18 you know in other words now listen 36:20 to this in other words the result is forever 36:23 are you following that? 36:24 Is not the burning that's forever 36:27 it's the result that's forever. 36:29 And that's what we gonna find 36:32 with the destruction of the wicked 36:33 because again the wicked nowhere 36:34 are promised eternal life. 36:36 Now we have another example in Bible 36:37 another text we can turn to, 36:39 it's in 1 Samuel chapter 1 36:42 and you remember the story in Samuel, 36:44 Hannah she wanted have a baby but she couldn't 36:47 have one, right. 36:48 So, she went up to the temple 36:49 to pray and she was weeping and praying, 36:51 and she was what was she was wanting? 36:52 She wanna to make her husband happy 36:54 and have a son right, 36:55 but she couldn't have a son, 36:56 and so the priest sees her out there 36:58 weeping and thinks she is drunk, 36:59 and he goes out tries to get on her 37:00 and she says no, no, no 37:02 I'm not drunk you know I wanna have a son, 37:04 and so she gets promise the son. 37:06 And she says if I get a son, 37:07 I'm gonna take and give him to the Lord, 37:09 and how long you gonna serve with the house 37:11 of the Lord? Forever, let us read it, 37:13 1 Samuel 1 I will put the slide up here 37:16 1 Samuel chapter 1 in verse 22 37:18 is we're wanna go to 1 Samuel 1:22. 37:20 How long will he serve, 37:21 and I think we probably have the Tim or Bill 37:23 either one, who want to do it? 37:25 Bill you wanna do that one? 37:26 Okay 1 Samuel chapter 1 in verse 22. 37:29 But Hannah did not go up, 37:33 for she said to her husband, 37:34 not until the child is weaned, 37:36 that I will take him, 37:38 that he may appear before the Lord 37:40 and remain there forever. 37:41 How long Samuel gonna appear there before 37:43 the Lord of the temple, how long? Forever, 37:45 so Samuel is he still serving that today? 37:46 No, how do you know? 37:48 Because he is dead isn't he right? 37:52 Samuel is still not living, 37:53 the Bible records him dying, 37:54 so Samuel is dead, 37:55 so he didn't get to serve forever 37:56 but how long was forever for him? 37:57 Until he die, so when you look at, 38:01 now you can go actually into the original meaning 38:04 of the word and things like that, 38:05 it's very interesting because 38:06 even in the definition of these words like 38:08 it's like eon and eon forever and ever 38:11 and it was the term means like eon and eon 38:13 which mean like an indefinite period of time. 38:14 It doesn't actually mean through the ceaseless 38:16 ages of eternity every time. 38:17 Now it can mean that, 38:19 when the Bible says that God 38:20 who is forever and ever or you know 38:23 the righteous will live forever and ever 38:25 well eternal life living forever and ever 38:27 and it having eternal life is different 38:30 than eternal death. 38:31 You follow what I'm saying? 38:33 You know both are still eternal right, 38:35 but well it's not different then is it, 38:38 but what I'm getting at here, 38:39 I kind of stumbling over myself a little bit, 38:41 let me back up just little bit. 38:42 When God promises you live forever, 38:44 that's eternal life, 38:46 you do live forever because it will be 38:49 until that times run out, 38:50 when the time is gonna run out is not because 38:53 you are living forever right? 38:54 But if He promises eternal death 38:55 will that time run out. 38:56 Yeah you will die and that would be it, 38:59 you will be eternally dead, 39:00 and so it's the same thing so if 39:02 He promises that the fires will burn forever 39:04 how long is that forever? 39:06 Until that fires are burned up, 39:08 until that's consumed, 39:10 right everlasting fire, 39:12 and we're gonna get into that little bit too, 39:14 the everlasting fire idea 39:15 and all that kind of stuff. 39:16 Now we are still here in 1 Samuel 1:22, 39:19 let us go to Malachi now, 39:20 Malachi chapter 4 is on the screen there, 39:22 Malachi chapter 4 verse 1 through 3. 39:24 Does everybody know where Malachi is? 39:25 Common yeah last book of the Old Testament, 39:29 so go to the book of Matthew 39:30 everybody knows how to find book of Matthew 39:31 don't they. Go to the book of Matthew 39:33 and backup one book, 39:34 you will be in the book of Malachi. 39:35 Malachi the 4th chapter and it's interesting 39:39 here once again he is talking about 39:40 the destruction of the wicked, 39:41 and how long they are gonna burn up? 39:43 Malachi chapter 4 verse 1 through 3, 39:47 and Tom would you like to read that one Malachi 4 39:49 verse 1 through 3? 39:50 Get him the microphone there. 39:51 For behold, the day is coming, 39:57 oh this is 1 through 3, okay. 40:00 You got it you're right on. 40:01 For behold, the day is coming, 40:02 Burning like an oven, And all the proud, 40:05 yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble. 40:07 And the day which is coming shall burn them up, 40:10 Says the Lord of hosts, 40:12 That will leave them neither root 40:14 nor branch. But to you who fear My name, 40:18 The Sun of Righteousness shall arise 40:21 with healing in His wings; 40:23 And you shall go out and grow fat like 40:26 stall-fed calves. 40:27 You shall trample the wicked, 40:30 For they shall be ashes under the soles 40:33 of your feet On the day that I do this, 40:35 says the Lord of hosts. 40:36 Okay you have verse 1 and verse 3 40:39 both says something is gonna happened 40:40 to the wicked. You know what's happens 40:42 to the righteous here, 40:43 you see what happen to the righteous, 40:44 they all gonna be fat, 40:45 it's not a bad thing at that time isn't, 40:48 so it's okay, 40:49 you are gonna be overweight I guess, 40:50 it doesn't hurt you right. 40:51 That's at His second coming 40:53 but look at verse 1 there 40:55 what it says happens for behold the day 40:57 come that shall burns another. 40:59 Okay what's he is referring to here, right. 41:02 Look what's gonna happen all that are proud, 41:05 all the do wickedly shall be what? 41:06 Stubble, they are gonna be stubble, 41:09 right they are gonna be burn up. 41:11 And the day that come shall burn them 41:13 forever and ever. 41:14 Did I misquote that, 41:16 now what does it actually say? 41:18 Burn them up so according to Bible 41:21 here once again we find that the wicked 41:22 that will be burned up, 41:24 and the result will be forever. 41:27 And look at verse 3, 41:28 and they shall tread the righteous 41:30 they go out on the earth because remember 41:31 what Jesus says the meek shall inherit 41:35 the earth. So, what we find here 41:37 in the context here is after the wicked 41:39 are burned up to ashes, 41:40 what do the righteous do they go out 41:42 and they tread them on the soles of their feet, 41:44 for they shall be ashes under the soles 41:45 of their feet in the day that I shall do this, 41:48 say the Lord of host. 41:49 So it's interesting hell according to Bible 41:51 we read already hell is gonna be where? 41:52 On the earth, when it's gonna be? 41:54 Yeah we know after 1000 years, 41:59 after the millennium Scott's covered that, 42:00 but we know that the wicked are reserved 42:02 until the day of judgment. 42:04 So, it's gonna be day of judgment 42:05 when this all takes place, 42:06 this all gonna fall in God is gonna say okay 42:07 this is what's gonna happen, 42:08 I'm gonna make things right, 42:10 he destroys the wicked in the fires of hell 42:12 where at? On the earth 42:15 and then the righteous 42:16 inherit the earth. 42:17 Have you seen that here in context so far, 42:18 so it just kind of reiterate to we've already 42:20 learned a little bit there, 42:21 that the wicked are gonna be burned up, 42:23 they are gonna be destroyed, 42:25 they are gonna be no more. 42:26 Is there any questions so far? 42:27 Yeah we get into the difficult text, 42:30 so called difficult text later one in the study 42:32 we will cover that in the part two of the study 42:34 when we get to part two, 42:35 because there is ones that somebody likes 42:37 to bring out and will say what about 42:38 the rich man Lazarus, 42:39 how you wanted that? 42:40 What about the rich man Lazarus 42:42 and here is what funny to me, 42:43 you will find yourself trying to defend a text. 42:47 You know what I like to say when someone 42:48 says what about the rich man Lazarus? 42:49 What about John 3:16? 42:51 Right now the rich man Lazarus is a parable. 42:55 John 3:16 is Jesus actually making 42:58 a statement actually what's gonna happen, 43:00 right. God so loved the world, 43:02 that he gave his only begotten Son, 43:03 who believes in him shall not perish, 43:05 but have everlasting life. 43:06 Right the two options is perishing, 43:08 everlasting life, they have to go together. 43:10 You can't have one, 43:12 and sets off to the side somewhat different. 43:13 He says okay yeah this is what it means, 43:15 and this is what I'm gonna believe if you do, 43:16 can you see what it can lead you 43:18 that's why the Bible tells us in Isaiah, 43:20 we have to study line up on line, 43:22 preset upon preset here a little, 43:24 there a little. 43:25 You have to take all the text 43:26 in the context to understand 43:27 on any particular teaching. 43:29 Now I like this part very well. 43:32 We finished up here, 43:33 we're seeing that the wicked 43:34 that are gonna be destroyed in the fires, 43:35 they are gonna be like ashes, 43:37 they are gonna be under the feet as ashes. 43:39 Now we have understand 43:41 that also the Bible says that are gonna be 43:42 eternal fire, right. 43:43 Did you know those examples 43:45 in the Bible of those suffering 43:46 from eternal fire? 43:47 They have been suffering from 43:49 everlasting flame, 43:50 the first one here we are gonna look at 43:52 is in Jude chapter 1 verse 7, 43:53 Jude chapter 1 and verse 7. 43:55 It's on the slide, 43:56 its one the screen there, Jude 1:7. 43:57 Everybody get there where's the book of Jude? 43:59 Yeah exactly right, 44:02 you go to the book Revelation 44:03 and backup one book. 44:04 Now everybody knows where 44:05 the book of Matthew is, 44:06 and everybody knows what the book of Jude is, 44:07 or Revelation is almost everybody, 44:09 very few people don't, right? 44:11 So, if you go to the book of Revelation 44:13 you back up one book you will get to Jude. 44:14 On the slide so almost done this on the slide 44:17 and I do this some time, 44:18 and I note I will just put Jude 7, 44:20 right because there is no chapters in Jude, 44:23 it's just 1 chapter so Jude verse 7. 44:25 But for, so people don't get confused 44:27 I put chapter 1 which is only 1 chapter verse 7. 44:29 Sometimes I sign my emails Jude 2. 44:31 You have ever seen that, 44:33 or anybody got email from Aerosoft signed Jude 2. 44:35 Look what it says in Jude 2, 44:37 Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, 44:39 and be multiplied. 44:40 So, I just sign my emails Jude 2 44:41 Phillip right. Now you can add 44:43 to that when you send me emails too. 44:44 Alright so Jude chapter 1 in verse 7 44:47 we are gonna look at an example 44:49 of this eternal fire, 44:51 and just we are gonna have Roberto 44:54 over here give us in Jude chapter 1 44:56 and verse 7 for us go ahead Roberto. 44:58 As Sodom and Gomorrah, 45:00 and the cities around them in a similar manner 45:03 of these, having given themselves over, 45:07 over the sexual immorality 45:10 and gone after strange flesh, 45:12 are set forth as an example, 45:16 suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. 45:21 Alright, I'm gonna keep right on you, 45:23 okay, Robert, what happened to Sodom 45:25 and Gomorrah, what did they suffer from? 45:26 The last part of the verse, 45:29 the vengeance of. 45:34 Suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. 45:36 Eternal fire, that's exactly right. 45:38 So, so according to the Bible Sodom 45:40 and Gomorrah suffered from eternal fire. 45:41 Now, I got a question, 45:42 I wanna ask everybody, 45:43 eternal fire obviously last forever, 45:45 doesn't it Michael? 45:46 Eternal fire last forever. 45:48 So, today right now we should be able 45:50 to go somewhere on this earth 45:51 and go to, and go to Sodom and Gomorrah 45:53 and see them still burning, 45:54 shouldn't be able to do that? 45:55 Yeah, you can't, I'm sorry, it's late, 45:57 you won't be able to because 45:58 Sodom and Gomorrah historically 45:59 are where you find today? 46:01 The Dead Sea and they're like buried 46:04 under water. 46:05 Yeah, just kind of put the fire out I guess, 46:07 maybe they would have kept burning 46:08 if they hadn't put water, 46:09 if they hadn't got water 46:10 over top of them there, 46:11 but I'll tell you some very interesting. 46:12 At my Church there in Louisville, 46:14 I had this guy come one time 46:15 that he was a like one of those guys 46:17 that what do they called archeologists, 46:18 they go around digging up things 46:19 and things like that, right? 46:20 And he was digging and he goes over 46:23 the Holy Land, 46:24 in that place there is a lot of research 46:26 and things like that. 46:27 And he had this bag, 46:28 a plastic bag that he brought back 46:29 from over there, 46:30 he have been digging in around 46:32 the Dead Sea where historically Sodom, 46:34 Sodom and Gomorrah are, 46:36 and it's the only place on this planet 46:38 that you find this little things 46:40 they're like softer balls, 46:41 they will be like I think about this big 46:43 softer balls. 46:44 It's the only place on a planet 46:45 you will find them embedded into the ground 46:46 and the rock and stuff there, 46:47 and he picks some of them out, 46:48 and he put him in his bag 46:49 and he brought back to us, 46:50 can't find anywhere else on the planet, 46:51 and that's what interesting 46:52 about these softer balls. 46:53 He showed a video he didn't do 46:55 with all them because you don't 46:56 wanna waste them all. 46:57 You remember this Darlene you were there, 46:58 I think it was on a prayer meeting night, 46:59 but anyway he put a, 47:00 he has one of the softer balls 47:01 in the end of the spoon, 47:02 a silver metal spoon right, 47:03 and he takes it and enlighten 47:05 with the lighter and it melts 47:06 in the spoon off just, 47:07 melts it off like that. 47:09 And the only place on the earth 47:10 you can find those things over 47:11 and around the Dead Sea there where 47:13 historically Sodom and Gomorrah was. 47:14 Now, you remember that 47:15 the Bible says that that fire of brimstone 47:17 raining down from God out of heaven on 47:18 Sodom and Gomorrah and they burn forever, 47:21 forever, right? Forever, 47:23 they're not burning today, are they? 47:25 You wonder why? 47:26 Because after the fire done it's work, 47:29 there was no reason to keep burning. 47:31 So, it says there, 47:32 now I want you to know something else 47:34 in the verse 2, still in verse 7. 47:35 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, 47:37 and the cities around and about them in like manner. 47:39 So, also there were cities around 47:41 about them in like manner, 47:42 that was still just as bad, 47:43 they also suffered from the same thing 47:45 and it says, they suffer 47:46 the vengeance of eternal fire. 47:49 Now, listen was the fire eternal? 47:53 Yes, yes, yes it was because 47:56 the result was eternal, 47:57 they are destroyed, 47:59 they are not gonna be there anymore. 48:00 You know, I like to do this, 48:01 I learn this from Doug Batchelor 48:03 and I tried it a couple of times 48:04 in evangelistic meetings and, 48:05 and it's, really difficult to do, 48:06 you got to, you got to kind this make 48:08 yourself in your mind I'm gonna, 48:09 I'm gonna hold on to this match. 48:10 Well, you take one of wooden matches, 48:11 right and you, and you light it, 48:14 and as you're talking you're holding like this 48:16 letting the flame burn up, 48:17 right and say now this is an eternal flame, 48:18 I'm not gonna put it out, 48:19 it's burning, it's burning, 48:21 then you lick your fingers and you go, 48:22 grab the other end of the match, right? 48:25 And you hold up like this and that can finishes 48:28 burning the match up and, 48:29 and so there it is, 48:30 it's all burned up the flame, 48:31 it's eternal I'm not putting it out 48:33 you know the match just goes out finally, right? 48:34 Then you take the match 48:35 and you drop in your hand 48:36 then you go like this, 48:37 and all we have is a little black smooth 48:39 sooty looking thing on your hand, 48:40 what happened to the match? 48:43 It's gone, will it ever be a match again? 48:46 No, it will never be a match again, 48:47 so I can say the result of that match, 48:49 we see the result of, 48:50 of eternal fire. 48:51 Does that make sense? 48:53 So, the results are eternal, 48:54 but you don't have eternal life promised 48:57 to the wicked. 48:58 That's why God can be called God of love. 49:01 You know, 49:03 I think the stories like 49:04 and by the way whenever 49:07 I do this Bible study in a home, 49:09 I usually spend this is like a 49:12 when I have spend the longest time, 49:13 one I have spend the longest time, 49:14 because I do share more, 49:15 more stories it's really hang up 49:16 for lot of couple. 49:17 Most people when you talk about 49:18 the state of the death they, 49:20 they really don't usually have a problem with, 49:21 with this putting, 49:22 with you putting the love ones 49:23 in the grave sleeping, 49:25 but something about 49:26 taking the enemies out of hell 49:27 and destroying them 49:28 it really bothers people. 49:30 You know, no my enemies 49:32 are gonna be there forever 49:33 burning and burning and burning 49:34 it's almost like they have a, 49:35 it's just like they don't want to accept that, 49:37 right? And so, I usually spend a little, 49:39 little more time with this 49:40 and I appeal to them, 49:41 I appeal to them, 49:42 to think about the love of God and, 49:44 and do you have, 49:45 do you have is your love anywhere 49:46 close to the love of God. 49:47 Do you think you have a love 49:48 anywhere close to the love of God. 49:49 Let me to think that God loves my kids 49:51 more than I do, right? 49:52 But yet, if my kids got to be a, 49:56 wanted to grew up 49:57 and like axe murder my wife 50:01 in front of me. 50:03 Right, and go out and do all kinds of 50:04 horrible things. 50:06 And so then finally comes a day at court. 50:08 There's my boy, he is in court there, right? 50:10 He's been axe-murdering, 50:11 I have seen him do it, 50:12 this kind of stuff, right? 50:13 And the judge is, 50:14 you know, going to pronounce sentence on him. 50:15 And you know he's going to get it, right? 50:16 And me as the dad, I am going to say, 50:18 "Well, you know what? 50:19 I don't want you to just put him in 50:21 the electric chair. 50:22 I want you to take an axe and axe him up." Right? 50:26 And I want to watch. 50:27 Do you know any parents 50:28 who'd do anything like that? 50:30 No, what would a parent want? 50:31 As bad as he was, 50:33 what do they want? 50:34 Please, if you want to do it, 50:35 do it quickly, right? 50:36 But yet we think that we have more love than God. 50:39 Job asked a question at one point. 50:40 I'm just going to throw the text out, 50:41 you know. Is woman or man... 50:42 Is woman or man more just than God? 50:45 The question isn't Job but is woman 50:47 or man more just than God? 50:48 The obvious answer is no! 50:51 We wouldn't want anybody, like, 50:53 even if they kill our family, 50:54 we wouldn't want to have to watch them 50:55 suffer for even like an hour, would you? 50:57 Just get rid of them, right? 51:00 But yet we think that God being all knowing, 51:03 all seeing, all powerful, 51:05 is gonna take His love, 51:07 His beloved, which He says He loves... 51:08 He says He loves us all, right? 51:10 He's gonna take those creatures 51:11 He created that He loves, 51:12 and He's gonna place them in a place called hell 51:13 in the center of the earth, 51:14 this is normal theology. 51:16 And He's gonna let them torture 51:17 and suffer there for the ceaseless ages of eternity? 51:20 Well, we've sort of two different gods, you know. 51:24 And that whole idea came in... 51:26 It didn't come in through the Bible. 51:27 You don't find that teaching in the Bible, 51:28 it's come in through Greek mythology. 51:29 I'll just be like little straight 51:31 but you all know that, you know. 51:33 You look at the history of it, 51:34 it isn't come from the Bible. 51:35 It just doesn't. 51:36 And you're actually accusing God 51:39 of something that He is not. 51:40 You're saying He's unjust, unfair, unloving. 51:42 And I just have issues with that myself. 51:45 And again, some guys jumping up 51:47 and down here at the TV at this point saying, 51:49 "Oh, but you don't understand sin! 51:51 That's your problem, 51:52 you don't understand sin! 51:53 God understands sin." 51:56 Does God hate sin? Yes. 51:57 Does He love the sinner? Yes. 51:59 You understand the point? 52:01 The problem is... When it comes to hell, 52:05 the problem is God has a big issue. 52:06 You know what the issue is? 52:07 He hates sin but He loves you, 52:11 and you are connected to sin. 52:12 So how can you get rid of the sin, 52:14 destroy it, right? 52:16 Does God want sin that last's forever? 52:18 What's He wanna do with sin? Destroy it, right? 52:20 But yet He wants the sinner to suffer forever? 52:23 Does that make sense? 52:25 The problem is you are connected 52:26 to the thing He has to destroy. 52:27 And so that's why He has to destroy the wicked... 52:31 End the fires of hell. 52:33 They have to be destroyed 52:34 because He has to destroy sin. 52:35 He has to purge the earth of that problem 52:36 that we have. 52:37 Doesn't that make sense? 52:38 It never made sense to me to think 52:42 that God loves me so much 52:43 that He wants me to burn forever. 52:47 I have trouble with that. 52:48 You know. And I don't think 52:49 it paints a God of love, 52:50 it paints a God of evil. 52:51 And so, I know this is going long 52:54 on this point but bottom line, 52:56 if you just took out all the text from the Bible 52:58 on the study of hell. 52:59 And you just looked at done a study on God's love, 53:02 then the study on hell, 53:05 the normal study that you hear from people 53:07 that you burn to the ceaseless ages of eternity, 53:10 it doesn't make sense. 53:11 You know, it's like this puzzle 53:14 that all fits together. 53:15 And I am like in confession here 53:16 because we're running short on time, 53:17 we are going to part two 53:18 and to finish this up here in a few minutes. 53:19 But I want to make a little confession here 53:21 and you may appreciate this too. 53:23 All the things we've learned so far, 53:26 you know, we've been going through study 53:28 after study and it's like, 53:29 just think about the truth in God's word 53:31 as compared to what the Anti Christ 53:33 has done to make a deception in His place. 53:36 For instance, God is love 53:38 but according to the teaching on hell day, 53:42 God is not love. He's a tyrant. 53:44 God created Sabbath 53:46 so that we can have a day of rest, 53:47 a day with God. You know? 53:49 Particularly set aside so that we can just 53:52 spend a blessed day with Him, 53:53 a day that He blessed, 53:54 set aside and sanctified, right? 53:56 He created Himself. 53:57 But the devil through the Anti Christ power 54:00 comes in and gives another day. 54:01 And it says even on that day, 54:02 you don't have to rest and set it aside, 54:04 you can just have a great time 54:05 and do your own thing on that day 54:06 and you are still keeping it, right? 54:08 So it's a deception along those lines, right? 54:09 It is showing that God doesn't really care 54:11 if He spends time with you or not. 54:13 So, God of love? 54:15 No, no, it's not a God of love, it's a tyrant. 54:17 And God wants to spend time with you? 54:18 Not really, just an hour a week or whatever, 54:20 then you go do your own thing, right? 54:22 And you just go down the list, 54:24 and we'll get to the others as we go along, 54:25 God is law, the law of love. 54:27 It shows us how to love one and another. 54:28 You know you got the first four commandments 54:30 that show us how to love God. 54:31 The last six commandments teach us 54:33 how to love our neighbor. 54:34 And what has the devil come along and done? 54:36 Oh, those have been nailed to the cross, 54:37 you don't have to worry about keeping them. 54:39 Just get rid of them 54:40 and you can go do your own thing. 54:42 And so you have the parallels of a God 54:45 of love that wants us to love one another 54:46 and love Him, he tells us how. 54:48 And the devil comes along and says, 54:49 "No, get rid of those," 54:50 so you don't know how to love me 54:51 and love God and love your neighbor. 54:53 And then this one to me is one of most heart 54:57 wrenching ones because it takes the 55:00 character of God and it turns it upside down. 55:03 You know, such a relief, you know. 55:06 I'm gonna go ahead with this one too. 55:10 I guess probably I should. 55:11 I got the news one time my dad passed away. 55:15 My parents, my dad never professed Christ 55:18 at all and I know he's in the hands 55:19 of a just God, right? 55:21 God knows his heart, 55:22 everything like that, 55:23 He's gonna deal with him. 55:24 But in my mind? Very questionable, right? 55:25 Very questionable. 55:26 But he was a really great guy. 55:28 I mean, when I became a Christian, 55:30 I understood a lot about 55:31 the love of God because of the love 55:32 my dad had toward me growing up. 55:33 I mean, that helped me to understand that, 55:35 right? But yet when he died 55:38 never professing Christ, 55:40 according to most Christians 55:41 where is he at right now? 55:42 He is in a serial of burning, 55:45 torturing and all kinds of pain. 55:47 Can you understand why people 55:48 go crazy when they lose loved ones sometimes, 55:49 if you really believe that nonsense? 55:52 You know? But it was such a relief to me 55:53 to find out that the loving God 55:55 that I serve, even if he did wrong, 55:57 even if he's not going to be in heaven, 55:58 will eventually destroy him. 56:00 It's gonna be a reward according 56:02 to as his work was. 56:04 So the Bible teaches 56:06 that hell destroys sinners 56:08 along with the sin that he was connected with. 56:10 Isn't that peaceful? 56:12 And so we'll go ahead and go through 56:15 and finish on part one right now, 56:18 we're gonna stop here on part one. 56:19 The Destruction of the Wicked part one 56:20 and just here we'll turn around 56:23 and do part two of 56:24 The Destruction of the Wicked. 56:25 And the reason we are doing it this way 56:26 is because we're gonna go through the difficult 56:27 text as well and explain those. 56:28 But I just want you to understand 56:31 from the point and perspective of people 56:33 that are living in the heathen environment 56:35 like I was, coming into Christianity, 56:37 how God just doesn't seem right with the teaching 56:40 of hell that you find around today. 56:41 And so we're gonna pick up when we come back. 56:45 We just finished with Jude 1:7 and it says, 56:48 "These people are an example of eternal fire. 56:51 And they are an example to somebody." 56:54 And when we pick it back up at the next study 56:56 we're gonna be picking it up by answering 56:57 the question, who is Sodom and Gomorrah 56:59 an example for? Who are they 57:01 an example of? Or an example to? 57:03 Because the Bible tells us that they're an example 57:05 to someone else, 57:06 that's going to be taking place 57:07 at the end of this earth's history basically. 57:09 And so if you want to download 57:11 the study guides at home, 57:12 you can download the study guides from 57:13 www.comeexperiencelife.com. And you can go there 57:17 and there will be a little radio link there. 57:19 You can click on it, download the study guides 57:21 for the Life on the Edge Bible study course, 57:23 or you can also be able to watch them 57:25 on line if you're only getting this one here 57:27 and you want to see the previous ones. 57:28 And you are wondering what I'm talking about 57:30 at other times. You can go to that 57:31 website and see the studies on the Sabbath 57:34 and the other things like that. 57:35 And be more than welcome 57:38 to join us back here. 57:39 And at the next study we're gonna do 57:40 the Destruction of the Wicked part two. |
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